import 4.code.options;
import 4.code.about;

class Header{

public void title(){

String fullTitle = "/g/ - Technology";
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public void menu();

public void board();

public void goToBottom();

public void refresh(a);

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class Thread extends Board{
public void RIPi5-8400,wehardlyknewye(OP Anonymous){

String fullTitle = "RIP i5-8400, we hardly knew ye";
int postNumber = "68015011";
String image = "rip_8400.png";
String date = "10/11/18(Thu)15:06:29";
String comment = "Press F to pay respects.";

}
public void comments(){
if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015023 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)15:07:13")

">>>/v/";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015036 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)15:07:56")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015290 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)15:26:12")

">>68015023
>Games only matter in very specific cases"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015410 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)15:34:09")

">>68015023
Man the point is there's literally no reason to buy intel processors anymore. Even their high end 5GHz infernos only give you faintly better FPS. Supply shortages also mean the i5-8400 will stay more expensive than the 2600 and even the 2600X."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015431 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)15:35:40")

">>68015011
>multiple games
>minimum fps
>hardware used
>OS used
Pretty good anon, except
>no RAM timings
>no mention of cooling

I'l give you a B for almost great objective data."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015452 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)15:36:57" && image=="1532669402958.jpg")

">>68015011
>those arma 3 fps"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015616 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)15:48:45")

">>68015011
CPU FINEWINE BASED AND REDPILLED RYZEN PULVERIZING INTLEL ABORTIONS"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015654 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)15:51:33")

">>68015452
This is how you spot shit game engines, Intel/AMD bullshit aside, look at kingdom come, that shit is just plain busted"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015707 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)15:54:50")

">>68015023
>Games don't always matter"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015736 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)15:57:32")

">>68015011
>it's another episode of Ayymd bottlenecking their benchmark on the GPU so that people can't see how utter fucking shit their CPU is"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015768 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:00:24")

">>68015736
They're all 1080p™ Intel™ Certified™ benchmarks"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015779 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:01:36")

">>68015011
>GPU bottleneck

Dropped."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015834 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:06:16")

">>68015779
Your brain is the worst bottleneck"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015871 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:08:57")

">>68015011
Can you post one without the GPU bottleneck?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015934 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:13:28" && image=="1539284789204.png")

">>68015011
>completely identical performance

Hmm... It's almost as if there was some sort of bottleneck of some kind. I wonder where the bottleneck might come from?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015964 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:15:59")

">>68015934
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE THREE OF THE BENCHMARKS HAD A GPU BOTTLENECK
>b-but I won't mention all the others were the i5 8400 got btfo

You literally posted the BEST CASE scenario for the i5 8400 here. It actually needs a GPU bottleneck to compete lmao"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015977 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:17:02")

">>68015964
Not the guy you are replying to buy,
>>REEEEEEEEEEEEE THREE OF THE BENCHMARKS HAD A GPU BOTTLENECK
How would that even be possible with a 2080 TI?

>It actually needs a GPU bottleneck to compete lmao
Again, look above"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015985 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:17:45")

"i5 8400 is better price/performance if you take into account costs for ram/motherboard/cooling. also more future proof because you aren't stuck with haswell level single core perf";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015993 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:18:45")

">>68015964
But why would they bottleneck their benchmark? If Ryzen is so much better, wouldn't they benefit from removing the bottleneck and showing us its true potential?

It's almost as if AMD is bottlenecking the benchmarks on purpose to hide something. Do you think I might be onto something or maybe I'm just being paranoid?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68015999 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:19:07")

">>68015934
>reeee it's NOT OK to show that the two CPUs have identical performance REEEEE"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016010 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:20:00")

">>68015977
I agree, but I was putting words into the mouth of the guy I responded to

>>68015993
Is that why the i5 8400 gets BTFO in every other game?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016015 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:20:16")

">>68015654
>This is how you spot shit game engines
It's how you spot someone who didn't properly benchmark that specific game. Arma 3 does not give those cpus those framerates unless you're looking at the ground, or sky with nothing around you."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016028 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:21:37")

">>68015736
>1080p
>fucking 2080 TI
>GPU bottlenecked
lad, are you fucking high?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016036 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:22:12")

">>68016010
>Is that why the i5 8400 gets BTFO in every other game?

The performance is nearly identical in every game and perfectly identical in 3 of the games that were tested.

Most logical conclusion: there was a bottleneck."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016038 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:22:18")

">>68015779
>literally the highest end gpu possible
>"it's gpu bottlenecked"
what?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016048 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:22:48")

">>68015871
What bottleneck, that's a 2080ti you fucking retard."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016064 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:23:49")

">>68016028
>>68016038
>>68016048

Hello samefag retard. Ultra settings will bottleneck any card, including the 2080Ti"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016066 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:24:00")

">>68015985
are you stupid?
>>68015934
they simply perform identical when using up to 6 threads"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016067 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:24:02")

">>68015011
> 100FPS with a 2080ti on Arma
End my suffering now"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016071 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:24:20")

">>68016038
>>68016048
This is what being dumb looks like."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016081 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:24:57")

">>68016066
>they simply perform identical when using up to 6 threads

What a coincidence!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016082 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:24:57")

">>68016036
Ahh, right, so let me get this right. When a Ryzen 2700X gets 10 FPS less than an i7 8700k the Ryzen 2700X is getting "destroyed", but when an Intel i5 8400 gets 15 FPS less than a Ryzen 2600 it's "nearly identical".

The absolute state of Intelfags"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016093 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:25:53")

">>68016067
>100FPS with a 2080ti on Arma
>End my suffering now
It wasn't yaab, so it doesn't count. They probably did an above the cloud fly over."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016103 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:26:27")

">>68016082
>waah, it's gpu bottleneck! Ultra settings don't matter anymore! Anything except 720p is antisemitic!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016107 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:26:38")

">>68016082
Remove the bottleneck and Intel gets 30% better performance."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016120 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:27:11")

">>68016081
>What a coincidence!
wut?
the ryzen got overclocked until it performed the same, whats not to get?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016128 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:27:48")

">>68016103
Dumbass. Eventually a better card will come out."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016148 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:28:51")

">>68016120
Oh ok so what you're saying is that the reason why this benchmark is retarded isn't that it's bottlenecked by the GPU, but that one of the CPUs is running stock whilst the other has been overclocked to shit.

Well thanks for clearing that up."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016152 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:29:05")

">>68016107
No it doesn't. Exactly what the fuck is surprising about Intel losing to an OC'd Ryzen 2600?

Ryzen has similar IPC to Intel processor except in AVX-256 workloads (where they have half because 2xAVX-128 instead of 2xAVX-256)"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016166 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:29:39")

">>68016064
>>68016071
Hi newfag. Why are you so mad that AMD provides a good alternative to Intel?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016178 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:30:22" && image=="1524648892350.jpg")

">13,448 GFLOP GPU with 11GB of 616GB/s vRAM
>games rendered on intel approved low 1080p resolution when 8K monitors are going to become the norm soon
>"muh gpu bottleneck"
Why are incels this fucking retarded?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016179 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:30:24")

">>68016148
the stock one can't be overclocked."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016180 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:30:25")

">>68015011
So you have to overclock the ryzen 5 by 800 mhz in order to get better benchmarks than an stock intel running 1.4 ghz lower?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016182 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:30:35")

">>68016148
The i5 8400 literally cannot be OC'd because Intel loves cucking their customers. The 2600 CAN be OC'd and is by far the better value buy."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016192 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:31:11")

">>68016166
>Why are you so mad that AMD provides a good alternative to Intel?
It's a good alternative, but these benchmarcks are suspect. Especially that arma 3 one."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016198 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:31:36")

">>68016178
These kikes aren't retarded. Look at how they came in flocks and posted one after another. They know exactly what they're doing."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016199 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:31:38")

">>68016180
The i5 8400 doesn't run 1.4GHz lower. It has boost clocks on all cores to 4.0GHz.

Stop being retarded."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016203 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:31:48")

">>68016178
>13,448 GFLOP GPU with 11GB of 616GB/s vRAM

Wow look at those big numbers, they're so impressive. There's like giga flops and shit.

Intel BTFO"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016204 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:31:50")

">360p
>ultra low setting
>Quad-SLI of 2080ti
>I-it's still GPU-bottleneck go... guys"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016208 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:31:59" && image=="Ryzen-Deus-Ex-Mankind-Divided-1440p-Ultra-Preset-MSAA-Off.png")

">>68016192
How about this one, surely it must be photoshopped and have nothing to do with msaa being a piece of shit, right?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016216 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:32:34" && image=="1539139485576.jpg")

">>68016198
That's disturbing..."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016218 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:32:40")

">>68016192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUyF--fJaaM

Then what about this?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016235 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:34:00")

">>68016218
>ultra quality

Just stop."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016238 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:34:12")

">>68016208
>bottlenecks removed
>HAH! WHO THE FUCK DOESN'T USE AA? YOU'RE LITERALLY A NAZI YOU STUPID GOY!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016250 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:35:16")

">>68016235
>Ultra quality doesn't matter anymore
Add this to the fucking list!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016252 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:35:23" && image=="arma3tr.png")

">>68016208
Here's what a real arma benchmark looks like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmrPnN43Mw0
Notice the low fps even with the low settings."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016257 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:35:36")

">>68016238
>1440p
>ultra settings"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016268 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:36:17")

">>68016208
>>68016218
Woah there. Stop with the antisemitism will you!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016281 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:37:12")

">>68016257
this, games need to be run at 480p unless you're an anti-semite."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016299 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:37:57" && image=="1539143915222.jpg")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016309 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:38:29")

">>68016218
>ultra quality
Means nothing. The viewing distances are what affect arma 3's performances the most.
There's a semi standardized benchmark that arma players use, and it's called yaab. Why these guys don't use it is beyond my comprehension."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016313 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:38:40")

">>68016182
far better value(like 50 bucks) if you don't count the more expensive ram and motherboard you'll have to buy with it..."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016320 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:39:01")

">>68016235
So then why does the Ryzen 2600 stomp on the i5 8400 by up to +30% when OC'd if it's a GPU bottleneck?

Why does Anandtech also use high/very high/ultra?

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12625/amd-second-generation-ryzen-7-2700x-2700-ryzen-5-2600x-2600/17
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12625/amd-second-generation-ryzen-7-2700x-2700-ryzen-5-2600x-2600/19"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016330 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:39:39")

">>68015011
Now post 720p benches or BF5 benches, AMDrone."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016340 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:40:16")

">>68016309
See >>68016320

>>68016313
Not if you're in Europe :^)

https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/5765872_-core-i5-8400-intel.html"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016348 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:40:41")

">>68015011
S to spit"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016356 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:41:02" && image=="97931.png")

">>68016320
What are you talking about? The i5 shits all over the 2600. And it's only high settings. In low settings it would be a massacre."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016358 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:41:09")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016386 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:43:04" && image=="1539275662201.jpg")

">>68015011
>3400MHz RAM
I'm shocked fair benchmarks like this exist, I've seen over half the ryzen vs intel benchmarks out there use 2133 Mhz RAM for the ryzen build."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016393 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:43:26")

">>68016340
>>68016309 (You)
See >>68016320
What are you showing me? I don't see any arma 3 benchmarks there at all.
I'm the anon talking about arma 3 benchmarks."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016406 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:44:16")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016409 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:44:25")

">>68016356
I'm pointing out that respected sites like anandtech ALSO use high settings so your complaining about that is fucking pointless.

>In low settings it would be a massacre.
If there was a GPU bottleneck then the i5 8400 wouldn't perform better. There isn't, and so it does.

If the Ryzen 2600 was OC'd it would absolutely stomp the i5 8400 in that benchmark too, like has been proven time and time again by benchmarks where it does get OC'd"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016418 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:45:11")

">>68016235
can you guarantee that a game using ultra quality settings and the same game using low quality settings both produce the same set of instructions for the CPU to execute during gameplay?

If the answer is no, then ultra settings should be used to better represent a real scenario."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016425 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:45:49")

">>68016252
same guy with 1440p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHzcsxrRUJw"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016432 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:46:19")

">>68016356
>an extra ~40 FPS is worth a hardwired backdoor
never fucking change /g/"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016437 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:46:35")

">>68016356
Wait is this the benchmark that had XMP turned off?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016446 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:47:05" && image=="97934.png")

">>68016409
>>68016418

>Guys look what I found. The A12-9800 gets the same peformance as a Ryzen 2600. That means it's just as good.

This is how retarded you sound."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016464 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:48:33")

">>68016446
>8700k blown the fuck out by AMD A12-9800
How will intel shill ever recover?!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016473 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:49:19")

"At least with Intel you know your buying a premium product.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016483 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:49:47")

">>68016446
>4k
Except now it IS bottlenecked at the GPU. Which it ISN'T in >>68016218 that video because if it was then the 2600 OC'd wouldn't have +30% performance.

You literally just proved my point you giant faglord. It's not GPU bottlenecked in that video and the i5 8400 gets fucking wrecked by an OC'd Ryzen 2600."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016484 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:49:55" && image=="blender-pwr-consumption.png")

">>68016473
This, it doubles as a space heater."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016486 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:49:55")

">>68016464
I know right? My $99 AMD processor BTFOs the i7-9900X

Intel is FINISHED"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016505 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:51:35")

">>68016483
>Except now it IS bottlenecked at the GPU.

Wait, you don't care about 4K?

Wtf, everyone plays their games in 4K these days. Shit, 8K will soon be the norm. Besides, it's running on a 1080TI, how could that 50 giga flop card possibly be a bottleneck? You don't know what you're talking about, stfu."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016516 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:52:55")

">>68016483
But you said the 1080ti couldn't possibly be a bottleneck?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016526 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:53:23")

">>68016093
I just hope Arma 4 will be better optimized and not a shitty port of their army version that's supposed to run on supercomputers."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016535 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:54:15")

">>68016418
Have you ever played a game called arma?
It's a game that defies logic, and it only cares about high ipc, high frequency, and low latency ram.
The gpu barely does anything for it, and I can run "ultra settings" with a gtx 1060 (previously hd 7970). The draw distances are what really affects my frame rates (lower draw distances = higher fps)."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016552 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:55:23")

">>68016526
I heard that they are changing the engine, but I hope that it doesn't take away from the arma feel.
The fact that it runs like a real simulation instead of a game is 90% the appeal of it."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016553 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:55:23" && image=="1520540354471.png")

">>68015011
>Margin of error level difference
I'm not even going to look because I already own a better CPU than the 2600, but I really don't get what this is supposed to prove. Either they're the same price and this proves nothing, or one is the more expensive chip that you objectively shouldn't pick because the other chip does the same job for less, and anyone who disagrees is a fanboy.
Also
>doesn't show how many runs the numbers are an average of
>"Windows 10 Pro" without specifying the revision as if Windows 10 hasn't been out for years now
It's better than most but it could still use improvement. That said, I hate Intel as much as the next guy, but I don't know who you're trying to convince. /g/ has been overrun by shills and fanboys for over a decade, anyone else has already come to their own conclusions."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016576 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:57:01")

"Except for Intel produces more high quality frames.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016600 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)16:59:05")

">>68016552
Arma is a civilian port of "Virtual Battlespace". Since the army runs top of the line simulators and computers they can go without much optimisation.
Don't worry, it cannot be mainstreamed too much."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016631 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:01:23")

">>68016516
I never said that, you're confusing me for another poster. I just said that the Ryzen 2600 is a better performer at 1080p benchmark when OC'd.

>>68016505
You're strawmanning me based on someone else's argument entirely. Fuck off.

The Ryzen 2600 OC'd outperforms an i5 8400 in 1080p benchmarks. Again see >>68016218

The point of linking to Anandtech in >>68016320 was to show that even respected sites also don't feel that you need to run 1080p low, and so your complaining about "muh graphics quality settings are too high" is pointless. Guess what, it actually shows too, because if there was a GPU bottleneck at 1080p in >>68016320
>https://www.anandtech.com/show/12625/amd-second-generation-ryzen-7-2700x-2700-ryzen-5-2600x-2600/17

Then neither the i7 8700k or i5 8400 would give you better framerates, which you went out to prove in >>68016446 where a GPU bottleneck generates exactly the scenario where objectively inferior CPUs like the A12-9800 is within margin of error of vastly better processors.

And so in other words, if there was a GPU bottleneck in >>68016218 that video then the OC'd Ryzen 2600 wouldn't outperform the i5 8400 by up to +30%, and they'd have extremely similar framerates. They don't, and the i5 8400 gets BTFO'd because there isn't a GPU bottleneck."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016633 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:01:33" && image=="AMD_Ryzen_7_2700X_Juegos_4K_04.jpg")

"Guys look at this. Every CPU gets the same performance. They're all the same! Just get the cheapest one. Everyone plays in 4K these days anyway. 8K will soon be the norm.

There's no way this is GPU bottlenecked, it was tested with a 1080ti which has 60 super nigger flops of energy and 500 horsepower as well as 60 gigabytes of RAM. There's no way a card that powerful could bottleneck your benchmark. Trust me."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016634 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:01:40")

">>68016600
>was
Bohemia split a long time ago, and they don't use the same code outside of some legacy spaghetti."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016652 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:02:35")

">>68016631
>I never said that, you're confusing me for another poster.

There are only 20 unique posters in the thread. It was you."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016653 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:02:38")

">>68016631
>The Ryzen 2600 OC'd outperforms an i5 8400 in 1080p benchmarks.
You forgot to mention the better motherboard, better RAM, and aftermarket cooler. But you are correct otherwise."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016657 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:02:54")

">>68016633
Great, except that nobody argued that GPU bottlenecks don't matter. What people actually said is that 1080p Ultra doesn't cause GPU bottlenecking.

Quit being fucking retarded or kill yourself."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016667 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:03:56")

">>68016657
>except that nobody argued that GPU bottlenecks don't matter

You literally spent the entire thread saying that bottlenecks don't matter because everyone these days plays in 8K resolution.

Fuck off."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016683 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:04:59" && image=="2018-10-11-230441_916x570_scrot.png")

">>68016652
God forbid there's others in the thread who think it's bullshit that 1080p ultra causes GPU bottlenecking on a 2080Ti."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016700 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:06:02")

">>68016667
I haven't said that. I said that Ultra 1080p doesn't.

I'm not the only fucking poster in this thread you retard."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016711 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:06:42")

">>68016683
It was you, nigger."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016719 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:07:03")

">>68016667
>>68016700
>I haven't said that. I said that Ultra 1080p doesn't.
By which I mean Ultra 1080p doesn't cause GPU bottlenecks, and that it is perfectly obvious based on the results in the video I linked."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016729 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:07:56")

">>68016526
I hope that I grow out of arma when arma 4 drops.
Really fucking tired of centering my personal builds around that shitty, but addicting as fuck game."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016737 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:08:46")

">>68016634
Are you kidding me? It's the same game beside the simulation tools."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016747 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:09:52")

">>68016729
I slowed down onthis shit game to play an even shittier game. Escape from Tarkov. Worst is, it's even more addicting."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016755 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:10:29")

">ddr4 3400
lmao so this is the power of ayymd."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016764 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:11:20" && image=="Intel-AMD-CPU-Market-Share_1.png")

">>68015011
What a pointless OP with a pointless comparison. The Core i5-8400 is selling at 2x the price of a Ryzen 5 2600 right now.

>>68015985
>i5 8400 is better price/performance
I see you failed math. Half the price/performance is not better.

>>68016313
>far better value(like 50 bucks)
I see shills are working with outdated prices. Intel's CPUs have gone up 50% last month. Not sure why they haven't cancelled their marketing contracts with those shill fabric companies since it's basically pointless now and it will be for some time.

>>68016218
Another currently pointless video, just look at the thumbnail: "best $200 CPU". That's changed.. to "best of a $200 AMD CPU and a $300 Intel CPU".

I seriously hope Intel gets their supply issues in order. I suspect AMD will run into supply issues if they don't, perhaps they can sustain deliveries with a 80% retail market share.. but I'm not sure. It's a bit risky to ramp up production too since they could get stuck with lots of inventory if/when Intel gets their act together. And they probably will, the question is how long that will take."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016766 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:11:39")

">>68016652
>>68016667
shameless kike
>>68016653
>hurr, muh 6gorillion bucks moar ram
Except for the fact that the mobos are in the same price range and in some cases, like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DXCrxr/msi-z370-gaming-pro-carbon-atx-lga1151-motherboard-z370-gaming-pro-carbon
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4D7v6h/msi-x470-gaming-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-x470-gaming-plus
The amd mobo is cheaper.
Also, anyone can see from the OP that they used the same hardware, the same ram, except for the mobo and the cpu."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016777 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:12:18" && image=="Untitled.png")

"Didn't know there were this many shills on /g/.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016778 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:12:32")

">>68016747
I slowed down too, and mainly play ravage now when I even bother, but I'm still going to buy arma 4, and all the fucking expensive ass dlcs."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016783 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:13:04")

">>68016711
Trying to derail the thread pajeet? Is the 0.000,000,6 shekels that shlomo is paying you really worth that much?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016789 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:13:24")

">>68016764
>Another currently pointless video, just look at the thumbnail: "best $200 CPU". That's changed.. to "best of a $200 AMD CPU and a $300 Intel CPU".
I agree, I even pointed it out in >>68016340

I'm just saying that the i5 8400 isn't actually a better buy than a Ryzen 2600 because the Ryzen 2600 demolishes it when overclocked."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016798 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:14:15")

">>68016789
Yea. Locked cpus from intel are just stupid."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016809 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:15:22")

">>68016777
>All of these intelkikes are samefagging and posting bullshit one after another
>Hahah! Let's blame the goyim of samefagging while it's us that are doing it!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016814 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:15:50")

">>68016798
>meant locked cpus in general are stupid, but intel is the only one still playing the locked cpu game. I don't recall any current locked amd cpus."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016823 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:16:35")

">>68016814
>>68016798
I think maybe the Ryzen 2400G is locked? Don't take my word for it though."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016830 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:17:10")

">>68016798
Do you know anything about the process of "unlocking" a CPU? Does it justify the price increase or is it just a marketing gimmick?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016842 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:18:13")

">>68016823
Not a single Ryzen chip is locked. You can OC the 2200G if you want. Gets it around the level of the 2400G."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016852 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:19:17")

">>68016830
It's just Intel market segmentation. They don't want to enable overclocking on i5 8400 and have you to buy a CPU like an i5 8400 over an i7 8700k then just OC it to outperform the i7 8700k.

Same reason they disable HT on their mid-range CPUs, and why their workstation chips don't have ECC (lol)"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016864 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:20:36" && image=="86308.png")

">>68016766
Explain this, faggot. A $500 AMD cpu performs worse than a $180 Intel.

>i-it's fake!
>i-it doesn't count!

Fuck off."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016867 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:20:42")

">>68016852
Hyperthreading literally doesn't matter! Games only use one physical core. Who the hell needs to alt-tab?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016893 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:22:38")

">>68016864
Not him but
>99th percentile"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016898 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:23:23")

">>68016893
>fps drops don't matter

Imagine being this retard."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016913 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:24:17")

">>68016852
Intel have really lost touch. They're still making old school decisions that just keep pissing people off."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016920 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:24:46")

">>68016823
>I think maybe the Ryzen 2400G is locked?
I have one and I can tell you for sure that you can overclock the 2400G manually but it's just stupid and silly and pointless, just like it is with all the other 2000 series Ryzen CPUs with XFR.

The smarter thing to do on both the 2400G and the 2600 (which I also have) is to replace the pathetic joke of a cooler included in the box with a real one. Use stock settings and stock cooler and you'll find that both of them will thermal throttle at 70C - something you'll reach after a few minutes of all-core workloads. My 2400G with a bigger cooler goes to 58-60C on things like make -j9 so the "boost" clock which goes to 3.795 on all cores is basically the base clock with a proper cooler. The same applies to the 2600."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016959 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:27:55")

">>68016864
Scroll up and read the other replies these people have given enough of a shit to post. Realise that you're nothing but a shameless kike and gas yourself.
Also,
>Just cherrypicked gaemen
>rocket league
Oy vey, put pubg and csgo in there as well!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68016990 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:29:55")

">>68016913
>just keep pissing people off.
With shameless shills working overtime like the ones on this thread? No way man! [current year] is the year of intel! Like always!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017015 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:31:16")

">>68016959
>csgo
not a very demanding game. sustains 60fps on a Ryzen 1600X with a RX 580 just fine. you can probably play it smoothly at 60fps in 1080p on a toaster"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017020 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:31:41")

">>68016959
>when your $500 CPU gets btfo by a budget Intel processor so all you can do is angrily type incoherent insults"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017064 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:35:55")

">>68017020
It's not worth $500?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017071 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:36:13")

">>68016764
>I see shills are working with outdated prices. Intel's CPUs have gone up 50% last month.
ahh yes checking the prices of CPUs every day is something NON shills do, I really hope AMD is paying you more than our jannies"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017072 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:36:25" && image=="oops.png")

">>68016864
>Day one ryzen benchmarks before patches and bios updates
>$500 1800x

Yup this is old as fuck."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017093 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:38:34")

">>68016990
I see them for amd as well. They keep each other very busy."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017108 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:39:31")

"Intel have yet to realise they don't have monopoly any longer.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017174 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:46:11")

">>68016064
That's complete bullshit though. The 1080 Ti is quite literally too fast for 1080p, let alone the 2080 Ti. There's no CPU on the planet that can properly power a 1080 Ti at 1080p, as Digital Foundry covered in their review."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017193 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:48:10")

">>68017072
Damn $250 is a great price for an 1800X"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017285 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:56:12")

">>68017193
That promotion is a fake though. Here the chip is worth 240€ vat included. Would be around $240 at an Americano retailer."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017289 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:56:21")

">>68017174
Congratulations on the dumbest post of the year."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017312 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)17:59:00" && image=="Hitman.png")

">>68017289
Explain this."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017331 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:00:51")

">>68016842
Only the $55 200GE is locked."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017342 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:01:38")

">>68017312
what's to explain, if you overclock you can get 10% higher frame-rates by paying 60% more for an Intel CPU."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017343 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:01:39")

">>68017312
The i7 should be able to play that shitty console game at 500 fps"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017366 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:03:35")

">>68017174
Sometimes I don't know if Digital Foundry are paid by AMD to talk shit or if they're genuinely tech illiterate."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017367 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:03:38")

">>68017342
Look at the little numbers.
>>68017343
> should be
But it doesn't, even in 720p."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017380 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:04:38")

">>68017367
It would if you played it in low settings."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017407 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:07:23")

">>68017380
I know its a benchmark for a cpu thus 720p is done but nobody ever with a 1080ti will actually play at 720p"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017412 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:07:58")

">>68017407
Resolution isn't the only bottleneck you mong..."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017417 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:08:17")

">>68016864
That was proven to be Nvidia's driver, which got fixed.
Or was that what you were trying to point out?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017435 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:09:40")

">>68017417
>Nvidia's driver

Crazy how people some retards still believe this bullshit."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017457 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:11:38")

">>68017417
The graphics driver has no influence on the CPU."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017513 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:15:44")

"I don’t understand the argument over CPUs that perform within like 5% of each other. There literally isn’t a noticeable difference.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017525 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:16:55")

">>68017513
>5%

It's much more than that but AyymDrones bottleneck the benchmarks to make it look as if it's only 5%"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017532 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:17:33")

">>68017457
What are you even talking about? Not to say that Nvidia's driver was at fault in this case but...

The flying fuck are you talking about? Of course it does. The entire Direct3D/OpenGL implementation LIVES in the driver. How efficient that is on the CPU directly leads to more performance."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017785 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:39:05")

">>68017072
>amazon's choice for 1800x
damn i didn't realize there was competition in that segment"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68017951 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)18:52:06" && image=="1525353398975.png")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68018413 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)19:26:49")

">>68017525
>using the best card on the market is considered bottlenecking now
>while intel had paid benchmarkers to halve 2700x's cores"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68018585 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)19:42:19")

">>68018413
shut up goy"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68018699 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)19:52:57")

">>68018413
Is this amd's new marketing strategy?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68018740 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)19:58:07")

">>68015431
>no RAM timings
>no mention of cooling
RAM timings are worthless on Intel and how the hell would cooling have any impact on the 8400 (a non-overclockable part)."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68018755 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:00:06")

">>68018740
>RAM timings are worthless on Intel
The fuck? Who told you this?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68018780 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:02:51")

">>68018699
https://www.techspot.com/article/1722-misleading-core-i9-9900k-benchmarks/"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68018789 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:03:52")

">>68018755
Unless you're intentionally gimping them, RAM timings have no significant impact on Intel chips."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68018832 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:07:49")

">>68018789
>Unless you're intentionally gimping them, RAM timings have no significant impact on Intel chips.
When has ram timings ever not improve a systems performance? I'm using cas 10 ram now, and my pc performs a lot better than when it had higher latency ram."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68018873 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:10:36")

">>68018780
>using the best card on the market is considered bottlenecking now
This is what I have issue with. Is anon retarded?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68018893 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:12:31")

">>68018832
3% at best
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7_8700K_Coffee_Lake_Memory_Performance_Benchmark_Analysis/10.html"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68018907 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:14:03")

">>68016764
>prices prices prices
No. Better means better performing, regardless of price

Better price/performance is better price/performance

See the difference?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68018950 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:19:35")

">>68018893
>3% at best
It's more than just 3% with certain software, and some games.
Off the top of my head I know Arma 2/3, and Dayz reacts well with better ram."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019059 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:31:21" && image=="FC5.png")

">>68018780
Wow guys, the test really was misleading.

Ryzen is only 20% slower instead of 21% slower."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019100 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:35:39")

">>68018893
Why didn't show what voltages they were using for each set of timings?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019109 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:36:12")

">>68017312
Denuvo."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019190 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:43:46")

">>68018893
2x 8 GB G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4
F4-3866C18Q-16GTZ
>2133-15cl 14.0646976ns
>2133-14cl 13.1270511ns
>3000-16cl 10.6666666ns
>3200-14cl 8.75ns
>3866-18cl 9.31195033ns
>2400-14cl 11.6666666ns
>2800-14cl 10ns
>3000-14cl 9.33333333ns
>3200-14cl 8.75ns
>3200-16cl 10ns
>3200-16cl 10ns
>3466-14cl 8.07847663ns
>3600-17cl 9.44444444ns
>2666-14cl 10.5026256ns
>4000-19cl 9.5ns
>no voltages
I wonder what they were hoping to accomplish when conducting this test."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019256 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:51:20")

">>68019190
Voltages only affect stability. That is, undervolting will cause glitches. It is the parameter you only tune to optimize heat output given your clocks, otherwise irrelevant.
2/10 nit pick attempt, made me reply."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019285 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:54:34")

">>68019256
>Voltages only affect stability
voltages affect latency, and most of those timings ended up with similar absolute timings, so what the hell where they trying to accomplish."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019293 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:55:36")

">>68019285
>similar absolute latencies
3% gains at most"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019299 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:56:30")

">>68019293
New AMD slogan:

"3% at most""
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019305 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)20:57:00")

">>68019285
>voltages affect latency
Imagine being this retarded."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019360 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:03:21")

">>68019293
That depends on the program. Cache-heavy (read: well programmed) programs will see no difference. RAM-heavy programs will have same percentage boost as latency percentage boost. But that's like taking about caffeinated snail crawling faster than normal snail, next to a cheetah. The difference between sticking to cache and using RAM is staggering, easily 10x fold in a casual case scenario, upwards of 50x fold in tightly optimized sections."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019401 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:08:08")

"S";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019412 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:09:20")

">>68019305
>Imagine being this retarded.
You have to raise the voltage if you want the lower latencies to stick (or at least this is how it works with every ram that I've oc'd), and some of their timings ended up with similar "absolute latencies", so they ended up with similar performance gains. I think intel paid them off to showcase that they don't need fast ram for their cpus like amd."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019430 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:11:23")

">>68019190
>>68018893
Is tech powerup owned by the verge?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019448 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:13:05")

">>68019412
Yeah that's what "undervolting causes instability" means you dip. Go raise voltages alone on your setup, the only thing that will improve is the space heater coefficient."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019468 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:15:11")

">>68019412
AMD setups are cheaper enough to save up for fast memory, and still have money to spare. Don't see the issue there."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019480 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:16:55")

">>68019468
>j-just use the money you saved"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019501 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:18:23")

">>68019468
literally sound like a salesman"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019510 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:19:17")

"When will mods start banning obvious Intel shills?";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019518 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:20:21")

">>68019448
>Yeah that's what "undervolting causes instability
Oh I thaught you were going on about voltages not mattering.
>Go raise voltages alone on your setup, the only thing that will improve is the space heater coefficient.
I don't fuck with the voltages unless I'm didling with the timings anon."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019524 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:20:48")

">>68019480
>pls spend your money with me, goy!
>no, you will not gain anything, you will be worse off even
>are you forgetting the 6 gorillion? just give me your shekels, goy!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019534 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:21:38")

">>68019468
Okay. Thanks."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019537 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:22:01")

">>68019524
Maybe if I say goy many times people will buy my inferior product."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019544 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:22:34")

">>68019524
>pls spend your money with me, goy!
>no, you will not gain anything, you will be worse off even
>are you forgetting jews, you don't want to give them money do you? just give me your shekels instead, goy!"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019577 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:26:09" && image=="1e564d7dfde33ba0619e50c2bfe7d5f0e58d0f1412f30bb79db5c6fd094452c7.jpg")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019635 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)21:33:31")

"a 2600x OC'd to 4.2 with 4000MHZ ram can beat a gimpy stock 8400 with 2666mhz ram

Hahahaha"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68019931 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)22:05:49")

">>68019635
How long would you keep a 2600x?
How long would you keep a 8400?

How long would you keep a 4000mhz ram?
How long would you keep a 2666mhz ram?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020102 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)22:29:02")

">>68019931
Why would I use any of those poorfag CPU's if my GPU is going to cost $1500?

These benchmarks are ridiculous in that respect. Who would pair a $200 CPU with a $1500 GPU?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020127 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)22:31:02")

">>68020102
Because the GPU is far more important for games than the CPU is. Better to save money on the CPU and get a good GPU."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020191 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)22:39:23")

">>68020127
If you're going to drop $1500 on the GPU alone would it also be out of the ordinary to drop $500 on Intel's absolute best CPU for gaming? Why would you bother going for AMD at that point.

The 8400 is still superior since it hasn't been overclocked in those benchmarks by the way."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020336 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)22:55:04")

">>68020191
>The 8400 is still superior since it hasn't been overclocked in those benchmarks by the way.
Because it's locked and CAN'T be overclocked.

In other words, the 2600 and 2600X are both way superior given how well they perform."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020351 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)22:56:13")

">>68019059
The claim was that they used 3200 or 3400 RAM right? That's almost 10% behind.

>>68019430
idk. They do suck though with their reviews. Which is a shame because they have a good BIOS and software repository.

>>68019635
nice strawman here's your (you)"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020353 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)22:56:18")

">>68020127
t. Average /g/ poster

Nobody would ever do this. The entire point is to bottleneck the CPU so you're not just testing the GPU."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020410 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:01:31")

">>68020353
If someone buys a fucking 2080 Ti then they're going to be playing at resolutions of 2560x1440 MINIMUM. Most likely they'll try 4k and when that doesn't give them 60 FPS they'll go to 1800p or something.

Which are resolutions at which your choice of CPU hardly matters anymore and the game doesn't run any better because the GPU is working as hard as it can on pushing frames."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020423 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:02:48")

">>68020353
>>68020410
And yes, I fucking agree that for BENCHMARKING A CPU, you want no bottlenecking on the GPU, but that wasn't the point of what I said at all.

It's perfectly fair to benchmark CPUs at 1080p"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020436 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:03:54")

">>68016015
This. I have a 2700x with a 1080TI and I get like 60-70FPS if I'm lucky and my GPU is barely even being used."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020525 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:13:35")

"Only /v/irgins care about video games. Please grow up and/or stop posting here, /v/.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020618 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:23:58")

">>68020436
>60-70fps
Post yaab results."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020691 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:34:14")

">>68020436
you'd get better FPS with a 8700k"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020708 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:35:39")

">>68017412
it should be, at all other same settings, 2x faster at 720p as it is at 1080p because it's pushing half the pixels and effects."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020717 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:36:37")

">>68016199
It boosts to 4 GHz only on one core. On 6 loaded cores it boosts to 3.8 GHz."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020742 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:39:51")

">>68020691
Hmm... I've heard that the 2700x wasn't bad at 4.2ghz+3200mhz ram.
The only thing is that the only examples I've seen for the 2700x are from known amd shills, and the "evidence" leaves a lot to be desired (only would say supposed settings, and then would post only the end frame which could be fraudulent)."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020766 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:42:18")

">>68020742
>Hmm... I've heard that the 2700x wasn't bad at 4.2ghz+3200mhz ram.
A 8700k at 5GHz is going to outperform it obviously, but the 2700X isn't a bad CPU."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020796 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:45:15")

"Honestly feel like people who buy Intel just for gaming should just kill themselves. Almost as bad as Apple consumers.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020809 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:47:00" && image=="bclk2.png")

">>68020742
2700X with BCLK OC and fast matches/beats an overclocked 8700k, yes.
Only point in going 8700k is you're too braindead for doing a BCLK OC, yet, you're able to do a fixed voltage and frequency OC.

AMD is simply better now and it's driving the intel shills insane.
The last thing they clung to was
>haha you need 3200MHz RAM on the 2600 and an OC when you can run the 8400 on cheaper 2666!
but 2666 RAM costs about the same as 3200 and the 8400 costs more now and they're imploding."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020832 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:50:46")

">>68017174
What if you enable 8x MSAA or SSAA on 1080p?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020851 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:53:22")

">>68020742
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3287-amd-r7-2700-and-2700x-review-game-streaming-cpu-benchmarks-memory

This guy got shit on hard for his 1800X review. You can clearly see that the 8700k pulls ahead a lot at 5GHz, but the Ryzen 2700X is not bad and performs well. It also performs better than the 8700k in multi-threaded workloads."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020856 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:54:06")

">>68020809
>$170 8400 stock using 2400mhz ddr4 is still in the ballpark and in some cases outright beats the $350 2700x overclocked with an AIO solution running 5000MHZ oc'd Ram


Ok, pajeet. I get it."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020881 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:57:16")

">>68015011
Indeed, will get i9-9900 when it's out. You're not seriously getting Ryzen trash are you OP?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68020890 && dateTime=="10/11/18(Thu)23:58:59" && image=="armayaab.png")

">>68020809
I'm referring to only arma 3, and I did some digging about
>>68020742
>The only thing is that the only examples I've seen for the 2700x are from known amd shills, and the "evidence" leaves a lot to be desired (only would say supposed settings, and then would post only the end frame which could be fraudulent).
Benchmark claimed for 2700x was fraudulent.
The user claimed that he benchmarked a 2700x on the bis forum with impressive results, but linked to the results of a 4790k.
The same user is doing the same thing on steam.
image related."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68021079 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)00:25:22")

">>68020809
>posts another GPU bottlenecked benchmark"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68021324 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)00:53:17")

">>68020856
Haha see? Look how he's imploding and lying about the price. 8400 hasn't been under $185 for WEEKS now.
It's currently $200+ at most retailers.

>>68021079
>GPU bottlenecked
>that's why they're not all the same
nice one.
Even if that's true, are what you admitting that if you're GPU bottlenecked, which 95%+ of people are, AMD squeezes out a bit higher FPS? So AMD is better?"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68021504 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)01:14:54")

">>68015011
>playing at 1080p in the year of our lord 2018"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68021580 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)01:23:53" && image=="once again v shows its technical understanding of hardware.jpg")

"Well done /v/ - your technical understanding is truly amazing.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68022241 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)02:53:56")

">>68021580
problem?"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68022572 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)03:34:06")

">opens notepad
>Fps on 8400 drops by 30"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68022989 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)04:33:56" && image=="s (2).jpg")

">>68015011
>6/6 core vs 6/12 core benchmark"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68023356 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)05:34:41")

"Intel is 5 years behind TSMC in transistor technology, 5nm risk production in 2019";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68023363 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)05:35:31")

">>68022989
It's the price that matters."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68023372 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)05:36:42")

">>68022989
They're roughly the same price, you retarded anime poster. Blame Intel for fucking you in the ass and demanding an extra $100+ to enable Hyperthreading."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68023394 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)05:40:26")

"I thought muh gaymen was the reason to buy intel. What's the excuse now?";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68023401 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)05:41:29")

">>68023394
Just netflix."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68023410 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)05:42:45" && image=="1539296460877.jpg")

"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we2oePtTGMM";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68023416 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)05:43:24")

">>68023394
Arma 3, and davinci resolve.
These are the two software that and owners still lie about when it comes to how their systems perform."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68023424 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)05:44:29")

">>68023416
>AMD owners lie about when it comes to performance"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68023426 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)05:44:37")

">>68023416
>Arma 3
lol >>68015011"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68023459 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)05:50:42")

">>68023426
Exactly. That arma 3 benchmark is a lie.
There's a benchmark that people use, but tech journalists won't use it when benchmarking with AMD."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68023491 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)05:55:27")

">>68023426
It's so bad that they avoid doing a proper yaab, and showing the run with results with AMD CPUs."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68023639 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)06:13:43" && image=="doom.png")

">>68015011
What's really fucking sad is that a 2080 Ti, a $1200 GPU, is getting these kind of mediocre results for 1080p gaming.
I say the fault lies with modern vidya devs for putting out such unoptimized trash these days.
Look at Doom's 99th percentile results here, perfectly playable at 1080p ultra with any crappy CPU."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68024434 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)07:52:28")

">>68023639
Shit game engines from shit devs, what's new? It's funny seeing Ryzen beating intel even in single threaded game engines lmao"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68024716 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)08:29:01")

">>68015011
Fortnite is actually pretty optimized kek, roughly on par with Battlefield and Dirt 4"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68024730 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)08:30:32")

">kingdumb cum
>2080ti
>intlel cpu
>not even 90 fps
what in the actual fuck"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68024761 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)08:35:40")

">>68024730
It's cryengine 3 running a detail rich enviroment. can be either cpu or gpu bound depending on the scene."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68024798 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)08:41:14")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68024828 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)08:45:46")

"I bought the 8400 because it was cheaper, and i 60hz monitor anyways, so it made no sense to buy something that was a bit more expensive and offered the same performance";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68025061 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)09:16:16")

">>68024828
enjoy your 59 fps, fag"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68025337 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)09:48:44")

">>68023356
Reminder than node differences between fabs aren't directly comparable."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68025364 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)09:52:32")

">>68023639
Vidya gaem devs don't want nor care to optimize that much because they are in the bankroll of GPU companies."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68026414 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)11:40:13" && image=="Nowinstock_AMD_V_Intel.jpg")

"";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68026585 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)11:59:30")

"Remember when Intel shills were arguing that anything above 1080p was not relevant because it put all the load on the GPU so was not showing the CPU performance but the GPU performance? How times have changed.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68026655 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)12:08:11")

">>68026585
Anything above 720p is literally nazi. Anything above 480p is grossly anti-semitic."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68026673 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)12:10:26" && image=="1436658870921.png")

">>68023372
LOL not even.

i5 8400 $284.95

RYZEN 5 2600X $209.99

RYZEN 5 2600 $159.99

Anyone buying Intel at this point has brain damage."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68026722 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)12:16:29")

">>68026673
The 8400 is $200 on Amazon and Amazon choice. Quit lying. BTW IU shill for AMD but lying about the price is just idiotic.
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-8400-Desktop-Processor-Cores/dp/B0759FGJ3Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1539360813&sr=8-2&keywords=intel+8400

The 2600 is $160
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07B41WS48/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1539360877&sr=8-2&keywords=amd+2600

So a $40 difference. The 2600 is still better value if you know how to set it up to perform but let's be realistic about pricing at least."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68026731 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)12:17:32")

">>68026722
>UI = I"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68026746 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)12:19:22" && image=="images.png")

"Don't forget you can also get away with running an 8400 on 2666mhz cl15 ram that costs approximately $50 less than the required 3200 c14 on Ryzen.

The 8400 exists solely for budget building.

Why buy a 2600 with 3200 c14 when the 2700 exists?"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68026795 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)12:23:05")

"$376 for the 8700K
https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-8700K-Desktop-Processor-Unlocked/dp/B07598VZR8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539361084&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+8700k

$295 for the 2700X
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=amd+2700x&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aamd+2700x

A $81 (24.25%) difference for 13% average gaming advantage on the 8700K.

Adding the cost of a decent cooler to the 8700K is what pumps the price up."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68026803 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)12:24:07")

">>68026795
>24.14% difference
Not sure where I got the .25% from. Damned fingers."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68026817 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)12:25:17")

">>68026673
I would only get intel if the machine is for game emulation or you need speed over price/performance."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68026818 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)12:25:18")

">>68026746
>The cpu is the entire build. Nothing else is needed.
Even with custom coolers and 3200 ram, on the whole, a decent ryzen system is cheaper than a decent intel one.
>hurr, intel is budget
>hurr, intel is premium, stop kvetching goy
How about you kikes give it a rest?

Also,
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=16384002,16384004&s=402666
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#Z=16384002,16384004&s=403200
Go gas yourself."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68027080 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)12:49:00")

"All this shilling before a product launch. Kikes are desperate.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68027213 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)13:01:14")

">>68025337
Sour grapes"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68027230 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)13:03:06")

">>68027080
shut up goy"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68027272 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)13:06:25")

">>68025337
intel 10nm is ever so slightly larger than tsmc's 7nm
doesn't matter when one doesn't even exist and the other's already working on the next node shrink"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68027674 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)13:41:22")

">>68027272
delid dis"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68028945 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)15:31:23")

">>68015011
>dem KCD benchmarks tho
yea I'm getting the PS4 version. Fuck paying 3 grand to play fucken KCD"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68028969 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)15:32:39")

">>68015011
only retards buy the 2600 instead of the 2600x"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68029026 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)15:36:52")

">>68028969
depends, most people will ultimately want to overclock and the diffrence there is 100-200mhz on average"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68029074 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)15:40:30")

">only 1.54% of people actually game on 1080ti
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
After a year the percentage on 2080ti will most likely be under 1% lmao"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68029089 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)15:41:37")

">>68026722
>but let's be realistic about pricing at least.
Being accurate and factual? Even when ahead? HAH! Ask somebody who isn't a fannatic and protects their favorite company like their own child."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68029203 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)15:50:20")

">>68029074
>980ti is only 0.57%
what the fuck, they're like a gtx 1070 for a fraction of the price
i can find 980tis for as little as $250 USD nowadays"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68029299 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)15:59:49")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68029982 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)16:53:40")

">>68015011
>1080p
This is very anti-semitic, please post low 480p benchmarks unless you're a nazi."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030096 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:02:20")

">>68023416
What's the problem with Davinci Resolve?"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030173 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:07:47" && image=="15241006322z6uo19egw_5_1.png")

">>68029982
lol amd only gets 331 fps, intel gets 352 fps HA"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030265 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:14:14")

">>68028969
>only retards buy the 2600 instead of the 2600x
The TDP difference between the two is considerable if you wanna make a really compact Mini-ITX build."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030275 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:15:10")

">>68028969
2600 for the most part can be OC'd at least 200 MHz past the 3.9GHz turbo @ 1.45v. So at minimum you'll get i5-8400 performance. 2600X would only net you ~ 5% higher performance which might not be worth it for someone trying to get the performance/$."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030299 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:17:03")

">>68030275
>2600 for the most part can be OC'd at least 200 MHz past the 3.9GHz turbo @ 1.45v.
>Taking 2nd gen ryzen past 1.38V
YOU FUCKING RETARD! HOLY SHIT!"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030303 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:17:15")

">>68030265
This too, at stock settings 2600X needs a beffier cooler."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030343 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:19:48" && image=="JUST.png")

">all the AMD shilling on /g/
>still below 20%
>even if half the Intel systems are laptops (they aren't) Intel is still in the lead"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030380 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:22:43")

">>68030343
It's almost as if shilling on a mongolian basked weaving site and shitposting in an echo chamber doesn't make people run out and buy your product."
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030391 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:23:38" && image=="image2.png")

">>68030299
That is the stock voltage for turbo, I'm not saying to use it, just that it's what AMD bins these chips at for maximum profit. A lot of people have reported undervolts at 3.9 GHz turbos and less than 1.45v at 4.1 GHz.

>>68030380
No but the 14nm shortage will. Even in the US, the 8400 is now more expensive than even the 2600X"
;


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030420 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:25:51")

">inb4 intel sells their 8400s at a loss just to cope";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030435 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:27:12")

">>68030391
>Even in the US, the 8400 is now more expensive than even the 2600X
stop lying on the internet, shill"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030448 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:28:15")

">>68030391
>That is the stock voltage for turbo
Constant voltage and impulse voltage for short periods is not the same thing.
I repeat if you are setting a manual overclock at above 1.38 volts you are a retard.
1.42 is what first gen ryzen can take
1.38 is what second gen can take
If you don't care about degrading your chip then fine, go above."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030520 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:33:51")

">>68030435
>$9.99
>2600x $10 more than the 8400"
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if(red_1337_star762 !eMRS5YxXBA && title=="" && postNumber==68030550 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:35:39" && image=="Screenshot_2018-10-12-17-35-25.png")

">>68030435
lol"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030573 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:36:58" && image=="e0fdc70b38dd91b58b8b97693d3d9d07503a082399421d749073e9665d19a0ef.png")

">>68030550
f-f-fake news"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030592 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:38:30")

">>68030550
Is the 14nm shortage THAT bad?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030597 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:38:45")

">>68030435
Do you know how the Internet works? Did you know you can simply visit Amazon or literally ANY other retailer and check prices? On Amazon right now the R5-2600 is selling for $160 and the i5-8400 is going for $200."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030618 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:40:12" && image=="prime.png")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030619 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:40:13")

">>68030597
>$200
Not for long.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-and-Lenovo-executives-says-Intel-s-CPU-shortage-will-continue-for-6-more-months.338128.0.html"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030632 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:41:14")

">>68030618
a day from now it will be $300, intelcucks better get on this stat"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030641 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:41:40")

">>68030520
>$10
>it's actually $15
>somehow in a shill's brain $199 is more expensive than $215
Wow I don't even have to prove how retarded you are, you are doing it yourself.
>>68030550
>what is amazon
>>68030597
He said 2600x pajeet. Learn to fucking read"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030677 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:44:41" && image=="999.png")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030699 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:46:28")

">>68030641
Right. Lemme dig REAL deep into my pockets to scrounge up and additional $10 for a far superior processor than the 8400. I though Intel fanboys were always going on and on about "not being poor""
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030711 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:47:14")

">>68030699
kek tru"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030719 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:47:56")

">>68030699
>far superior
In crashing?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030739 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:50:14" && image=="i3.png")

">>68030618
>$159.99 for Ryzen 5 2600
>$199.99 for i5-8400
>$209.99 for the Ryzen 5 2600X
>$239.99 for the i5-8660k
>$279.99 for the i5-9600k
Best deal is the "6 core" i3-8350k for $169.99 though."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030744 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:50:32")

">>68015779
>games tested in 1080p
>card used is RTX 2080 Ti
are you one of those people who insist on benchmarking in 720p low on highest end cards?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030756 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:51:44")

">>68015934
>3 games out of 13"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030757 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:51:43")

">>68030719
infinitely reposting a dumb meme doesn't make it true"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030766 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:51:58")

">>68030719
>I do nothing but read memes on /g/: the post

I've had my gen1, day 1 R7-1700X encoding for literal weeks on end. 100% locked CPU usage and not a single issue."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030780 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:53:14" && image=="1700.png")

">>68030766
Same"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030795 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:54:25")

">>68030766
>muh encoding
I haven't crashed when using quicksync either."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030799 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:54:38")

">>68015011
Do people realize ryzen uses b-die which costs $80 more, high-end mobo and cooler to oc that much in this benchmark?
that's like paying $100+ to get 3 fps more than a stock 8400
Fucking kek"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030843 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:57:38")

">>68030799
>Do people realize ryzen uses b-die which costs $80 more, high-end mobo and cooler to oc that much in this benchmark?
>that's like paying $100+ to get 3 fps more than a stock 8400
>Fucking kek
At least I don't need to buy a new fucking mobo everytime a new CPU generation is out. At least AMD stay on a socket or cross-compatible socket for a while."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030856 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:58:33")

">>68030795
>encoding is suddenly no longer considered CPU intensive nor a sign of stability

I buy whichever company suits my needs the best. But you blatant company fanboys are the absolute worst."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030862 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:58:52")

">>68030799
Well to be fair it does compete very well with the i5-8400 once oced, and with good ram, but then again it's not like the i5-8600k is that far away in price (at least for right now).
My take away from all of this is that locked CPUs are a fucking scam, and it's a trend that never needed to exist."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030878 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)17:59:50")

">>68030856
>I buy whichever company suits my needs the best. But you blatant company fanboys are the absolute worst.

Bingo. It's all about meeting those needs according to a budget. Brands don't mean shit."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030890 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:00:38")

">>68030843
No one upgrades every 2 years anyways"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030905 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:02:08")

">>68030843
>At least I don't need to buy a new fucking mobo everytime a new CPU generation is out.
Yea, but you buy a new cpu every generation to "save" money while intel owners just ride it out untilthey are ready to upgrade.
I don't know what's better though to be honest.
Paying up front for your performance, or paying for a different cpu every year."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030918 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:03:19")

">>68030856
>But you blatant company fanboys are the absolute worst.
Because I brought up quicksync? Why are you being a faggot about quicksync?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030923 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:03:40")

">>68030799
>b-die
Hasn't been relevant since gen 1 release. Do try to keep up
>High end mobo and cooler
Huh? That AMD board is almost $60 cheaper than the Intel board
>cooler
Oh no I have to spend $30 on a cooler that can more than handle anything. Not only that but you should know that anyone who owns an 8400 also buys an aftermarket cooler because even Intel's locked chip likes to overpower the stock cooler when at high loads for too long."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68030997 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:09:12")

">>68030862
>locked CPUs are a fucking scam
Not everyone wants to OC every time they want to play a game. Besides with every unlocked cpu you have to pay a premium for aftermarket cooler if you want to OC. Stock 8400 can reach 3.9-4ghz which is as much as a 2600 can OC.
>>68030923
>b-die
Except you get 10-15% more perf in games on ryzen with b-die.
>mobo
Wtf? Even with the shittiest $50 b360 board you will get the same results with 8400 because it's locked. Ryzen needs atleast a $100 board with good vrms to be able to oc
>cooler
You are delusional. 8400 runs perfectly fine with stock cooler. Find me 1 source that says otherwise. Wraith stealth can't even manage 4ghz"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031049 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:13:15")

">>68030997
No it doesn't. I can only maintain 4GHz with a 212 evo, stock cooler makes it thermal throttle

t. i5-8400 owner"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031064 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:14:35")

">>68030997
Also this thing is loud as fuck, it sounds like a jet fighter taking off."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031106 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:17:45")

">>68030997
The option to OC should be left open anon. You don't have to oc if you don't want to, but manufacturers shouldn't get away with putting artificial limiters on products like that."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031119 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:18:22")

">>68030997
you seem to be confused. B-die only refers to the type of die and the RAM kit's associated timings. B-die has a tendency to be able to hit CL14 @ 3200MHz. Where as non B-die is usually CL15 or higher. Ryzen works perfectly well with non B-die, so it's not NEEDED. Only gen1 Ryzen had issues with that. Gen2 Ryzen massively improved RAM kit compatibility and pretty much 95% of RAM kits will hit their advertised speeds. It also has a lot to do with the number of sticks used. You have a much better chance of sustaining 3200MHz on 2 sticks, not 4. Intel is the same way.

As for motherboard prices, I was referring to the OP pic and the boards they used. And Ryzen can be overclocked on sub $100 boards too. Better boards just have better long term stability if you're running your CPU at the very bleeding edge of stability 24/7."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031120 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:18:24")

">>68030997
>unironically defending having to pay extra for Kosher cpus"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031173 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:23:58" && image=="1529744269280.png")

">>68031049
Well, it will obviously run at 3.8-3.9 with stock cooler and not 4 so it can't throttle anyways. My point was that even for a locked cpu it can reach 4ghz which is more than fine
>>68031106
I mean, if you want to OC that much just get an unlocked i5 for not a lot more and reach 5ghz+ and call it a day.
>>68031119
Pic related
Ryzen benefits from b-die ram more than what you think. It can OC a lot more than a regular cl16 kit."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031175 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:24:14")

">>68030997
Preventing overclocking arbitrarily for market segmentation is a scam.

>you get 10-15% more perf in games on ryzen with b-die
That is completely false. There was a period where b-die was able to reach rated speeds and other types of RAM were not, this is no longer the case though. 3200MHz b-die vs 3200MHz other types of DRAM with the same timings you will get the same performance.

>Ryzen needs atleast a $100 board with good vrms to be able to oc
You can get a decent OC on a B350 board, which can be had for really cheap. To make it above 4GHz, if your chip is capable of doing so, many B350 boards use the same or similar VRMs for their B350/B450 and low and mid-range X370/X470 boards. Only the halo products get special VRMs.

>8400 runs perfectly fine with the stock cooler
Intel's stock coolers, on top of being loud, are sufficient to keep a Pentium or an i3 cool under load. Anything more than ~35W and you will see thermal throttling. I had a 4690k, and it would not go above base clocks for more than a minute or two on the stock cooler."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031191 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:25:35" && image=="Screenshot_2018-10-12-18-25-12.png")

">>68030997
>perfectly fine
>intel stock cooler
pick one"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031265 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:31:29" && image=="1537851546430.jpg")

">>68031173
You still need to buy an aftermarket cooler which means the 2600 is a better option since it can be OC'd. The only reason I got my 8400 was dumb enough to get an i3-7100 and lock myself in the intel ecosyatem else I would have jumped on that 2600 like a rabid wild animal. I feel cucked desu."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031303 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:34:54")

">>68031191
Wow you really showed me
Maybe if you explained what's happening and not posting it out of context would help
Stress testing the shit out of it and reaching 80 degrees is not even bad so I dont know what you are trying to prove, not even throttling in your pic.
I'm still waiting on a real source of saying intel's cooler cant handle the 8400 btw
>>68031265
Stop false flagging faggot. Since you got it show me proof of you throttling."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031310 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:35:54")

">>68031191
I don't think anybody made the claim it runs super cool or quiet.
I think the point was that the intel stock cooler will not thermal throttle the 8400.
But if you live in a hot climate, if your case has shit airflow and no fans, then the stock cooler probably will run into trouble."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031406 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:43:17" && image=="woo.png")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031448 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)18:47:27" && image=="you_wont_need_it.jpg")

">>68031265
>I feel cucked desu.
iktf

t. i7-7700K owner that requires an AIO to maintain 5GHz"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031628 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)19:02:52")

">>68031406
what if you were to ramp up the fans to 100% speed?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031672 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)19:07:52")

">>68031448
>>68031265
eh, you're not losing anything. There's a reason the Just Wait(TM) approach has gotten so popular now."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031698 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)19:10:15" && image=="download.jpg")

"this hurts to look at. why does intel insist on even importing this worthless chinkshit";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031745 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)19:13:58")

">>68031628
it's probably done at 100% fan speed."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031751 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)19:14:07")

">>68031628

On an Intel cooler you'd go deaf and then your chip would explode."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68031827 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)19:21:31")

">>68031406
>4c8t cpu 3.5-3.7ghz has the same temps as a 6c12t 3.2-3.6ghz cpu
anime_grill_with_question_marks.png"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68032155 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)19:55:27")

">>68031173
>I mean, if you want to OC that much just get an unlocked i5 for not a lot more and reach 5ghz+ and call it a day.
Sure I would have to buy the pricier unlocked variant, because the manufacturer did spend money the money to lock the multiplier on this more expensive variant.
Imagine if they didn't even bother taking the extra time to lock cpus."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==68032932 && dateTime=="10/12/18(Fri)21:15:07")

">>68016036

It is clockspeed limited. 8400's turbo speed is severely gimped beyond two threads unlike the 2600X.

Intel's so-called performance advantage in gayming is entirely from having more clockspeed. 8400 loses its clockspeed edge when it is taxed beyond two threads and when fully loaded the 2600X simply spanks it (It has higher clockspeed then 8400 with six threads or more)."
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