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String date = "01/11/19(Fri)09:26:34";
String comment = "OP bought their first car edition.

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In /rcg/ we discuss anything & everything remote controlled - multirotors, fixed wing, cars, rovers, helis, boats, submarines, battlebots, lawnmowers, etc.

>How do I get started with racing drones?

https://oscarliang.com/mini-quad-racing-guide/

https://www.fpvknowitall.com/ultimate-fpv-shopping-list/

> How to build a racing drone (16 part video series from Joshua Bardwell)

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwoDb7WF6c8mWARrcxtX_G6yytK7QFHID

>What about planes?

https://www.flitetest.com/

>What about aerial photography, is DIY viable?

Buy a DJI if what you actually want is to take good photos/videos, go DIY if what you actually want is a fun project.

>I want a dirt cheap drone to fly around my yard/garden

Syma X5C

>I want a dirt cheap drone to fly inside my house

Eachine E010/Hubsan X4

>What are some good YouTube channels for learning or fun?

Joshua Bardwell - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX3eufnI7A2I7IkKHZn8KSQ
Painless360 - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp1vASX-fg959vRc1xowqpw
Flite Test - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9zTuyWffK9ckEz1216noAw
Peter Sripol - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7yF9tV4xWEMZkel7q8La_w
7demo7 - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTa02ZJeR5PwNZK5Ls3EQGQ
ArxangelRC - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG_c0DGOOGHrEu3TO1Hl3AA
RagTheNutsOff - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWP6vjgBw1y15xHAyTDyUTw"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1534778 && dateTime=="01/11/19(Fri)11:46:59")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1534792 && dateTime=="01/11/19(Fri)12:13:21")

">>1534778
>>>/fuckoff/"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1534874 && dateTime=="01/11/19(Fri)14:22:37")

"I had an RC car when I was like 8.

But I really dont see any reason to get one now that we have quads.

The sky is your race track now."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1534917 && dateTime=="01/11/19(Fri)15:36:21" && image=="frame.jpg")

">>1534874
You know if you had semi-pro-looking design made out of 20x20 aluminum extrusions you could make a ton of money doing industrial inspections and shit?

Just like quads. Has anyone in /rcg/ ever made money with their quads?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeKDWWHH1-w"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1534943 && dateTime=="01/11/19(Fri)16:16:25")

">>1534917
I think everyone's dream is to make money off a hobby, mine included. Im just autistic enough to make it happen somehow though so we'll see what the future holds."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1534944 && dateTime=="01/11/19(Fri)16:16:37")

">>1534874
I already have a dozen quads & several wings, I fancied a change. Cars also seem better suited to winter in Scotland than quads/wings - removing mud from motors gets really boring & flying in the wind we always seem to have here just gets tiring.

>>1534917
>Has anyone in /rcg/ ever made money with their quads?

Yes, I've been doing it 2-3 years under PfCO/NQE in the UK. It's not as fun nor as easy nor as lucrative as you might think."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1534959 && dateTime=="01/11/19(Fri)16:56:19")

">>1534778
>>1534874
Funny enough I saw a youtube video in the last week or so where a professional drone operation company employs a custom RC car with a gimbal on top of it for commercial filming and shit."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535279 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)03:25:52")

">>1534778
>>1534874
>sky rats talking shit
Don't you have an airport or 3 to shutdown"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535390 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)09:30:59")

">>1534917
I work as a testing contractor that does 3rd party commissioning and engineering for utilities and power plants. A couple of our guys bought/built a massive hex-coptor with a DSLR on a gimbal to do inspections on hard to reach sections of high voltage line. We never make more than a couple grand on any given job but it gets us out of the office and floats our T&M rate. I’ll get some pictures next time we take it out."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535607 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)17:04:57")

"As a COMPLETE NOVICE, how would I go about building and flying a FPV rc plane setup on a SUB 200 budget?

I mean like
>$100 rc plane
>camera on plane broadcasting to FPV goggles
>I throw rc plane, switch to rc goggles, and fly the plane

If anyone knows any really in depth guides tailored to noobs who want to achieve this, I'd appreciate it!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535652 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)18:00:14")

">>1535607
1/2

First of all, you'll need a transmitter, go for the Q X7, which retails for ~100$ and you can use it for basically anything that is remote controlled (but doesn't use some random proprietary shit) and you'll find that it will be able to accommodate your future needs if you continue with the hobby.

Personally, I don't have any experience building rc planes, but from what I know, you'll need:

>appropriate brushless motor(s) for your setup, as well as the appropriate propellers for them
>a appropriate ESC to drive that motor (the ESC must be for brushless motors and have the correct amp rating for your use case)
>a LiPo battery with a appropriate C rating (basically a C rating that will be higher than the maximum amount of current that your plane will ever need, say if your plane draws like 10 amps maximum, I'd suggest going with a 15-20C rating battery, because C ratings are a guesstimation at best - chinese random ass branded batteries have C rating that can be blown out of proportion, invest in a good battery - burst C rating is the maximum current you can draw from your battery for ~10s. It must NEVER be equal to the maximum amount of current that your plane will ever need, it needs to be equal to the base C rating, otherwise you risk puffing your battery and or fucking up your plane)
>servos to control the ailerons and other control surfaces of your craft
>you can build almost the entire body of you plane from foam to build the body as well as a foam cutting tool (you could use a 9V battery along with a thin wire, but I've never tried something like that so ymmv)
>a receiver that goes onto your plane and receives the commands from your radio and turns them into servo commands etc"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535655 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)18:04:51")

">>1535607
>>1535652
2/2

Here's a vid for a cheap and fun plane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKt6bt6I1Is&ab_channel=SammSheperd

Check out his channel as well, he made a lot of videos on how to build rc stuff and cheap rc plane, it will help you a lot.

Hope my advice wasn't too shitty, and someone who has actually made a plane before can give you some better advice than I did.

You can order most of the parts needed from HobbyKing, but beware, their customer support can be pretty terrible.

I can't help you with the FPV part much, but I'm sure you'll need a camera and a VTX (video transmitter) to send the video feed to your goggles, and for that, you may also need to add a Power Distribution Board, or PDB to your build (basically a board that takes the battery voltage and usually steps it down, to say 5V, so that you can use components that can't handle battery voltage).

Hope I helped, but I'd suggest asking someone else as well."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535675 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)18:43:58")

">>1535652
Ah I already have a plane given as a Christmas present, an FMS MOA, but thank you! I wanna just mod it into fpv but have no idea where to start or what to buy

I would absolutely love to build my own plane some day (maybe a balsa p38) and just fly around like this https://youtu.be/crWSUR4pOfc"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535695 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)19:12:45" && image=="cheapest fpv.png")

">>1535675
you should've mentioned that before. Do you have a transmitter, battery charger, etc? Pic somewhat related, went for cheap as I could find, but can't really recommend the shitbox goggles."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535707 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)19:26:05")

">>1535695
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32738863196.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&productId=32738863196&productSubject=2016-New-Arrival-Eachine-TX02-Super-Mini-AIO-5-8G-40CH-200mW-VTX-600TVL-1-4

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32739150206.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail&productId=32739150206&productSubject=New-Arrival-Eachine-EV800-5-Inches-800x480-FPV-Video-Goggles-5-8G-40CH-Raceband-Auto-Searching

I (THINK) that these two would work together, and all I need to do is find a battery for the camera, and somehow mount that on the plane ensuring that the centre of gravity remains the same.

Or would it be better if I used the parts you linked and built the fpv module myself?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535713 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)19:33:09")

">>1535707
They should, as long as the frequency is the same. The camera can be powered by a PDB"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535742 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)20:05:54")

">>1535713
Pdb is a, a kind of lipo battery?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535748 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)20:15:37")

">>1535742
Power distribution board."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535751 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)20:20:25")

">>1535742
your Lipo will power a PDB/Power Distribution board. this basically allows a number of things to be powered such as escs, cameras, flight controllers, cameras and more."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535753 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)20:22:14")

">>1535751
>>1535748
Gotcha, so I can prob just slap it in there somewhere. Thank you!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535754 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)20:23:56")

">>1535753
>>1535751
>>1535707
Oh, how would I find out what range this camera/goggle setup will comfortably operate in? And what could I do to boost it?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1535804 && dateTime=="01/12/19(Sat)21:46:24")

">>1535754
200mw is/was the standard transmitter power, but 600mw is becoming more common on switchable VTX's. 200mw should be all you need if you're flying in a field. You can improve your performance by using a patch antenna, this is a directional antenna that should be pointed at the plane, but if you're flying circles around yourself a circular polarized antenna is best. If you can afford it, get goggles/receiver with diversity, this will switch between 2 antennas to give you the best signal from each (ideally use 1 CP and one Patch)

Also, that all-in-one camera/vtx can be powered by a 1 cell LiPo. That might be easier than wiring up a PDB and the Moa glider should have plenty of room inside it. Always wanted one of those gull-wing gliders."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536171 && dateTime=="01/13/19(Sun)12:22:56")

">>1535695
>D4R

I don't even know why they still sell those. Buy a X4R instead."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536176 && dateTime=="01/13/19(Sun)12:31:37")

"When would I want to use a 3 blade propeller for fixed wing? If I'm using, say, a 9x6 2 blade, would a 9x6 3 blade overwork my engine/require more amperage? Any negative effects? I know a single blade is most efficient but uncommon in cheap rc.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536184 && dateTime=="01/13/19(Sun)12:58:07")

">>1535804
>gull wing gliders
yeah its a real beauty, likes to cruise, you only need to bank the wing a smidge and it turns on a coin edge, you have a shit ton of elevator to play with too - I think this guy sold me on it

https://youtu.be/2kDXsq3DTxo

but I'm a long way from flying like he is"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536292 && dateTime=="01/13/19(Sun)15:01:04")

">>1536171
listen to this anon, I threw that list together way too quick. There's an S-Bus version of the X4R so if you wanted to add a flight controller later on, you can keep the same Rx."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536336 && dateTime=="01/13/19(Sun)15:45:33")

">>1535655
Oh how sad, that guy passed away a few months ago."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536345 && dateTime=="01/13/19(Sun)15:54:05" && image=="1521575177660.jpg")

">>1536336
ikr"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536360 && dateTime=="01/13/19(Sun)16:10:20")

">>1536345

F"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536749 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)08:55:52" && image=="file.png")

"What should I be looking at if I want as much range as possible engine, prop and battery wise on an RC plane?

Scratch building with a friend, never done this before, so far it's basically a tape covered piece of foam with a 120cm wing span. The plan is to control it via an on board raspberry pi and a laptop and be able to fly it beyond visual range. Any tips would be appreciated."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536753 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)09:26:01" && image=="monocoque.png")

">he still isn't using a monocoque frame";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536761 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)09:37:35")

">>1536345
F"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536771 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)09:59:14")

">>1536749
You should be looking at the first post, build something simple that flies, and learn how to control it before you attempt to make your own control system for high endurance BVLOS. If you want to build out of foamboard or Depron, check FliteTest or the Scratch Built Foamies section on RCGroups."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536791 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)11:00:28")

"I want to build a synchropter. It'd be my first RC helicopter project, but I have plenty of prior experience from car and quad mods, so I don't think I'll be way in over my head. I've found videos from a decade ago of people modding Align Trex450 helis into synchropters, but since these are from the time when gyros were first beginning to replace flybars, and everyone seemed to be doing it as a "fuck you" to gyros, they're not super relevant any more. My idea is to run two rotors mounted at a 30 degree angle from each other off of a single brushless motor, which would drive a small gear onto a large gear on the shaft of one rotor, like how most helis do it. The rotors would then have equally large gears meshing at some point so both rotors are driven at the same RPM. The chassis would initially be 3D printed, but once I have a good design I'd upgrade to CNC router cut aluminium. The rotor and swash assemblies would be 450 size spare parts from eBay, since I don't consider myself anywhere near a good enough engineer to come up with that stuff for myself. My controller would be a homemade Ardupilot, since the rotor assembly requires six servo channels, the ESC one channel, and I plan to eventually put a camera pan-tilt platform on there for an additional two channels. I also want it to be flyable like a quad, since I'm not very good at 3D helicopter flight yet and kind of want a handicap mode. Anyone spot any obvious problems with this plan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSWwMdO_U84 is a video of some other guy doing a similar project."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536851 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)14:09:29")

">>1536753
I can't find a big enough vacuum former
>>1536749
Long thin wings, big propeller, efficient engine"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536929 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)17:10:18")

"DJI is 100% superior and cannot be beaten for the price by a DIY. That being said what exactly is used in DIY camera rigs to give them HD video FPV?";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536957 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)17:57:00")

">>1536929
Depends on budget. At the very bottom end you might find some random Chinabrand wifi video dongles that 'work', moving up into proper hobby budget you have systems like FPV Blue, when you reach entry level for 'professional' stuff you have offerings from Connex & interesting systems like Emlid Edge which actually integrate flight & video systems, then when you move into proper big boy territory you're looking at SDI transmitter setups for thousands (Teradek, Paralinx, IDX) or in-house transmission/control systems from cinema camera manufacturers themselves (eg Arri have the WVT-1 which is $5000 just for the transmitter)."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1536987 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)18:48:02")

">>1536771
Do people actually DIY these things? Fuck me that looks like a small fuckup in the timing of those rotors would send shrapnel from them not unlike a frag grenade."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537016 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)19:42:12")

">>1536929
HD FPV is overpriced and unnecessary. 5.8GHz analog video is only so good, but it's more than enough for keeping the motherfucker in the air, stable, safe, doing tricks, whatever you may need. Arial cinemetography is almost never piloted using the actual production quality video. That being said, DJI does have a nice setup for entry level filming/photography and
>>1536929
Is 100% right."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537043 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)20:31:08")

"First quadcopter build question: I have everything soldered on to the flight controller and I have made sure that my FPV transmitter and my FPV headset are on the same frequency. I only have static being displayed on the headset (appears different from static on any other frequency). Do you think this is an issue with my camera or am I fucking something else up?";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537074 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)21:14:56")

">>1537043
If the static looks different on the correct frequency, or frequencies close to it, in my experience, your VTX is dead.

For future references never plug your quad in if you dont have an antenna on the VTX."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537080 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)21:22:22")

">>1537074
Got it. I have a cheaper spare laying around so I will try that. Thanks!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537091 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)21:53:09")

">>1537074
>never plug your quad in if you dont have an antenna on the VTX
I get you, but why not?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537128 && dateTime=="01/14/19(Mon)22:47:22")

">>1537091
I dont know the science but basically all the power the VTX is giving off cant go anywhere without an antenna, so it just fries it. I killed a VTX like a week ago doing just that funny enough."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537185 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)01:02:57")

">>1536771
>build something simple that flies
Already there, the XPS foam (5mm) I'm using is so light you can just take a sheet of it and bevel the edges and you get a wing. I've used the "armin" wing technique, essentially folding the foam over itself and using thin pieces of foam between them to get the right camber and add strength. The thing is quite rigid I have to say, did some testing by throwing it at a wall and bending it at extreme angles and the single 60cm wing can support upwards of 2kg (no idea how much as it was bending a lot at that point and I don't want to break it just yet) and that's without a spar.

Essentially the thing is meant to be a glider that will get a powerpack later on so I'm on the same page as you as far as that goes. In that regard making it fly should not be that much of a problem as I'm making it perfectly symmetrical and following various youtubers, articles and general advice I'm getting. The CG is pretty much the most important thing, get that right and it will fly if you give it enough speed.

>>1536851
I already know that big props are the way to go, however, how does one decide upon what size prop to use and how many blades ti should have. I assume 3 finned props are more efficient as well? So, I should be picking out a motor and based on that I should be picking up a prop, correct? Any suggestions regarding what kind of motor should I be getting?

120cm(wingspan)x18cm(chord with ailerons)x3cm(wing thickness at its peak)
This should be more than good enough judging by what other people are making."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537239 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)04:23:16")

">>1537016
The pilot seldom uses a HD feed, but the camera operator always does. You literally can't do things like focus pull without a feed that actually shows enough detail to see what's in focus.

Even for hobbyist grade stuff where you're shooting fixed focus, a HD feed is still a massive boon over analogue FPV. This is one of the (many) reasons that trying to DIY something comparable to a Phantom/Mavic is pointless, because the cost of just a HD video setup will cost more than a second hand DJI.

>>1537185
>I assume 3 finned props are more efficient as well?

The general trend is that 2 blades are the most efficient."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537250 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)05:20:17")

"Is it possible to DIY long distance (7 - 10 km; 5 miles range) plane/drone? I don't think live camera stream is an option but GPS would be necessary. Also able to carry small stuff.

>inb4 drugs"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537267 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)06:09:07")

">>1537250
Yes. If it can be made you can DIY. Besides, 10km is not that much, saw this guy build a solar powered plane and he kept it in the air for several hours.

People have been building actual DIY aircraft so the sky is the limit if you don't mind the pun."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537284 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)06:33:43")

">>1537267
Flying outside of visual range is illegal in a lot of places though."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537288 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)06:40:12")

">>1537250
7-10km is fairly trivial for a plane. You'd want a 900MHz control system like FrSky R9, then even just 5.8GHz video would suffice if you chose antennas sensibly & maybe invested in an antenna tracker for your groundstation. Arduplane (or even iNav) will take care of all your GPS requirements.

7-10km for a multirotor would be a very difficult project in comparison, they simply don't have even remotely the same endurance as planes."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537292 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)06:51:51")

">>1537284
Dunno but I don't care in the least if I'm being honest."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537373 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)09:52:11")

">>1537185
You're off to a good start. Check out eCalc, there is a prop size calculator there. Also, several threads about power calculation on RCGroups. I've built a couple of planes that size in the past, you're probably looking at a 1000-1400kv motor swinging a 9-11" prop. Depends on specific kv, motor size and battery."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537380 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)10:06:00")

">>1537292
So drugs?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537476 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)12:43:20" && image=="20190113_013557.jpg")

"Building an AUV, my motors don't always kick on at appropriate time (one or two may lag to turn on). I am using bluetooth to turn on 6 2000Kv out runner motors with a 2S 1000 mah cell. The escs are 10 amp max each. Are the capacitors too small on each motor? Or is the discharge rate possible culprit?";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537507 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)13:42:23")

">>1537476
Nice 3D print job but I don't understand what this is?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537511 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)13:46:47")

">>1537507
...He literally wrote what it is... "AUV" is a kind of submarine robot."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537543 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)14:30:31")

">>1537476
Just a random guess, it's either the bluetooth, your ESCs need calibrating, or the controller you're using doesnt support 6 motors."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537598 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)16:47:58")

"Redpill me on active freewheeling.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537600 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)16:50:48")

">>1536753
That's a dragon dildo."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537610 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)17:31:42")

">>1534944
Cars are EXTREMELY boring if you are the only one with one. If you have at least one friend with a car they are a blast."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537614 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)17:36:35")

">>1537610
This. Quads are definitely more fun solo, but you're more careful around other people's quads than you are around other people's cars, and there's not really any quad equivalent of a dirt track with jumps and tight corners."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537629 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)18:16:46")

"How good are these racing quads at precise movement and positioning? I'm thinking of getting into drones like this, but I'm less interested in zooming around a field and more interested in zooming around the interior of my house, where precise movement is more important than raw speed.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537631 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)18:27:44")

">>1537629
Appallingly bad. Racing quads are made to fly fast and react quickly, they're not for fine maneuvering. You could tune the electronics to make them decent at it, but then you still have a fragile and overpowered thing, if a gyro fails, it breaks a prop or just bumps into something it'll blast off at full speed straight through your TV.

If you want to get started flying around indoors, go to Walmart and buy one of those Wifi video $50 quads. It'll control softly enough to fly stably and easily, the camera will be good enough to have some fun with it, and it can even fly outdoors on a calm day. Also doesn't make you spend thousands on a hobby you might not even like."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537634 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)18:39:13")

">>1537631
You're retarded.
>>1537629
In terms of flying vehicles quadcopters are literally designed to be precise. But you arent going to be flying a full blown 5" in the house. Most people buy what we call a whoop to fly indoors. Recently theres been a craze with brushless whoops, but personally I think they are a bit too zippy for indoor flight. If you are solely interested in flying indoors look at the Eachine E013. Comes with an indoor quad, proprietary remote, and a set of goggles, both banggood and Amazon have it but Amazons is a bit more expensive. If I were you Id pick up a 1s LiPo charger capable of charging more thyan 1 battery, some spare props, spare motors, and a spare frame for the quad. I

All in youll spend around $100, those goggles will work if you decide to get another quad. Only real issue is the remote is like I said proprietary, so if it shits out on you the quad wont work.

Another option is to get a Taranis QX7, a whoop from Betaflight or something, and some $100 or so goggles with diversity. In this case youll likely never have to replace the remote or goggles, and any other quad you ever buy compatible with Frsky protocol will work with the remote. And if you decide you dont like it you can sell them."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537635 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)18:42:10")

">>1537631
>>1537634

I was actually just about to ask about the Eachine E013, I saw it in a hobby shop recently, the full package with the goggles. The whoop style quads are what I'd be interested in initially. Thanks for the tip"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537636 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)18:48:53")

">>1537635
Like I said if you are SOLELY interested in whoops that Eachine is just fine, youll likely replace parts eventually but youd do that with a $200 whoop too. If however you plan on branching into full 2-6" quadcopters youll want to start with the Taranis and something like the E013 but bind and fly. Reason being is the goggles that come with that Eachine arent great, they work for, but thats it. If you get more into this youll be sitting around with those wishing you could fly more than 100m. As I mentioned the QX7 is the most popular transmitter in this hobby, and $100 will buy you some half decent diversity goggles you wont really NEED to replace.

Basically what Im saying is its up to whether you want to spend $100 on the E013 right now, and then spend $200 more, plus quad cost, on a different transmitter and goggles when you get into the bigger stuff. Or spend $300 now and never have to upgrade the transmitter or goggles."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537639 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)18:52:14")

"I'll probably go for the latter option simply to reduce the amount of accessories I have lying around gathering dust.
What does "diversity" goggles mean? They support different radio technologies?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537640 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)18:59:27")

">>1537639
Diversity uses 2 antennas to give you the picture in the goggles. Most people attach and omnidirectional antenna, meaning it picks up signal from all directions, and a patch antenna, which only picks up a strong signal in a cone directly in front of the antenna. The goggles pick up both signals and display you the best one, thus better video. Basically diversity goggles have WAY better range than non."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537643 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)19:04:05" && image=="diy.webm")

">>1537634
>>1537635

>Recently theres been a craze with brushless whoops, but personally I think they are a bit too zippy for indoor flight.

1S brushless whoops fly very similar to 1S brushed whoops - they're not really that much zippier desu, they just fly 'better' for sake of a better word. Picrelated was when I first got my UR65, feels very similar to flying an E010 whoop.

>youd do that with a $200 whoop too

How do you spend $200 on a whoop? Or are you talking about the whole package with radio & goggles? Because even the newest & best brushless whoops (like the Emax Tinyhawk) are <$100.

>>1537639
>What does "diversity" goggles mean?

Diversity means it has two receivers, each with its own antenna, & switches automatically between them depending which has the best signal. Normally you would have an omnidirectional antenna on one receiver & a directional antenna on the other."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537657 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)19:26:29")

">>1537643
None of my brushed whoops are nearly as fast as my Snapper6, and it can be way harder to control too.

Maybe I just got a bad one, I was talking about the 2s craze anyways."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537658 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)19:28:31")

">>1537657
2S is a completely different beast - I personally wouldn't even think of trying to fly 2S in my apartment & I've been flying for years."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537664 && dateTime=="01/15/19(Tue)19:36:46")

">>1537658
I dont much get the craze to be honest. The entire point seems to me that they have something that looks like a whoop but performs like a 3", all while using 0803 motors. Seems to me they are just signing up for having a bunch of broken shit sitting around. The 2s batteries used by 2 and 3" quads are usually of higher quality than those shitty little 1s sticks that are mass produced with little QC at this point. Motors will last longer, and they dont use everything in an AIO so you can replace parts."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537767 && dateTime=="01/16/19(Wed)01:23:49")

">>1537643
shiiiiet, i want this sort of thing on a rc car. is vibration really that hard to handle?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537770 && dateTime=="01/16/19(Wed)01:32:42")

">>1537767
Not him but these FPV systems are starting to be used on every manner of RC vehicle, so I dont think vibration is an issue. That being said under ideal circumstances our quads dont vibrate at a frequency low enough to see on those cameras. The VTXs however, at least in my experience, are one of the componants like an ESC that just decides to shit out one day. So I wouldnt trust them much in a car that will be taking hard hits. No telling if the stuff can last the shock 12 dozen times per battery."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537772 && dateTime=="01/16/19(Wed)01:36:36")

">>1537770
oh id want to build some sorta gas rc, i dont like the idea of batteries and having to charge them. and i wouldnt be racing or really stunting much with them either. i wanna build one from scratch and mess around with the design more then having an actual good design."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537777 && dateTime=="01/16/19(Wed)01:54:45")

">>1537772
I've run a FPV camera on a RC tank with a direct drive upgrade and it worked fine. You'll probably get more bumps with cars since they don't have the same kind of suspension a tank has, but it's fine. Depending on how you attach the camera it might vibrate loose, but the camera itself won't break."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537807 && dateTime=="01/16/19(Wed)04:33:54" && image=="IMG_20190111_202136.jpg")

">>1537767
Mine (OP) is even designed to be fitted with a FPV camera, by unscrewing the head of the driver & replacing it with a camera. Didn't get a chance to try it at the weekend, was too hungover, but looking forward to trying it this weekend."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1537821 && dateTime=="01/16/19(Wed)05:56:06")

">>1537598
pls respond"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1538026 && dateTime=="01/16/19(Wed)15:22:25")

">>1537821
well the biggest fundamental problem with active freewheeling i"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1538165 && dateTime=="01/16/19(Wed)21:21:06")

">>1537807
Kinda strange seeing one of these at 90 degrees."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1538263 && dateTime=="01/17/19(Thu)01:38:08")

">>1536929
>DJI is 100% superior and cannot be beaten for the price by a DIY
is this true?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==1538332 && dateTime=="01/17/19(Thu)04:55:33")

">>1538263
If you want a flying camera, yes."
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