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int postNumber = "12189373";
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String date = "12/06/18(Thu)04:59:47";
String comment = ">There are still Hegelians to this day after Schelling, Nietzsche, Marx, Heidegger, Bataille, Adorno, Althusser, Derrida, Deleuze and Land completely trashed him.

Why won't he just die already? His cult is quite honestly unexplainable."
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public void comments(){
if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189377 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)05:02:42")

">>12189373
Prove you’ve read him."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189386 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)05:07:10")

">>12189373
marx and schelling are sophists though"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189418 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)05:28:59")

">>12189373
Loved Hegel. My uni recommended reading hegel every morning despite having Leibniz as its name. STEMfag btw."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189421 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)05:30:21")

">>12189373
because ur mother's a whore"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189429 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)05:36:22")

">>12189373
You've never read any of them, especially Marx's wwritings on Hegel. OP is a faggot"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189438 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)05:41:07")

">>1218937
>t-t-t-they refuted hegel so he has no value!!1!
imagine being this faggot"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189459 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)05:51:04")

">>12189418
Hannover?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189476 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)05:57:15")

">Marx, Adorno, Althusser, Deleuze and Land completely trashing him

>literally all Hegelians

lul wut"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189633 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)07:13:30")

">>12189476
Just realised.
>>12189373
OP, you just outted yourself as a fucking pseud!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189653 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)07:23:38")

">>12189476
>>12189633

Marx completely ridicules Hegels position of idealist histoy in "Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right", Marx accepts Hegelian dialectics only conditionaly in that they start from a materialist conception of history and not from a transcedental abstraction from which truth is derived.

Adorno wrote Negative Dialectics which is an entire reversion of Hegels philosophy, into the negative. Dialectics for him don't mean a positive construction but a negation used by way of critical philosophy.

Althusser tried to purge Hegel entirely from Marxist thinking with his epistemic break, claiming there is nothing Hegelian in the late Marx, when Marx comes to the question of critique of ideology, the eraly Marx is still Hegelian because he is caught up in feuerbachian humanism

And oh boy PLEASE read what Deleuze and Land write about Hegel, the sheer poison and mockery that comes from them to Hegels face is almost too brutal."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189664 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)07:27:17")

">>12189653
Wikipedia-tier summaries. Try harder."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189690 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)07:37:21")

">>12189373
Schopenhauer wiped the floor with Hegel."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189692 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)07:38:23")

">>12189418
>Hegel
is not even stem philosopher."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189712 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)07:45:09")

">>12189653
>not from a transcedental abstraction from which truth is derived

This is exactly what Hegel does not say.

Also:

>Deleuze
>it's not that simple;"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189783 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)08:05:59")

">>12189373
only Heidegger is relevant there"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189842 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)08:24:32" && image=="c7c.png")

">>12189373
Can someone please explain Hegelian philosophy and what dialectics means in simple words"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189853 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)08:28:15")

">>12189842
The process of how being emerges into self-consciousness"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189873 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)08:35:57")

">>12189842
Dialectics is a process of change. An example would be a theory about reality that encounters errors it can't explain and a new theory must emerge that has corrected for the errors.

Both Hegel and Marx, although through different mechanisms, thought that this is how society changes.

It also carries with it a certain teleology, e.g that history has a goal. For Hegel this goal was a society that was perfectly free and rational, for Marx this was a Communist society."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189878 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)08:38:22")

">>12189873
For Hegel it already happened tho. His philosophy is very much the awareness of this free society and individual and how it came to be"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12189933 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)08:55:51")

">>12189878
Fair enough."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190405 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)11:06:37")

">>12189373

Where can I find Land's critique of Hegel?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190413 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)11:12:22")

">>12189690
Schopenhauer was Hegel's cuckboi. It is almost sad reading about all of Schopenhauer's schemes to become more popular then Hegel, all of which backfired horribly while Hegel was just doing his thing."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190422 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)11:15:38")

">>12189377
FPBP"
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if(Motoko && title=="" && postNumber==12190465 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)11:31:03")

"Why won't all of you continental n*ggers kill yourselves and read some real philosophy instead of wasting everyone's time.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190493 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)11:38:44")

">>12190413
SHUT UP!"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190548 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)11:54:47")

">>12190465
>read some real philosophy

Philosophy is a now unnecessary proto-science. Read it for fun maybe, all you will get is useless immanent schemes."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190553 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)11:57:27")

"hegel is the opiate of the intellectual";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190555 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)11:58:08")

">>12190548
Prove to me you exist and I will drop philosophy forever."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190560 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)12:00:04")

">>12189373
I’m listening to a Hegel book on audible, getting my dick sucked and browsing /lit/ all at the same time rn."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190580 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)12:06:17")

">>12190555

What do you mean by ''you''?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190617 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)12:14:29")

">>12190555
Why do you want to prove that though? My existence is as equally relevant and irrelevant to you, the point is that you are existing whatever that means, and you are interacting with me and everything else that is surrounding you."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190651 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)12:23:16")

">>12190548
>Philosophy is only natural science and logic

>just completely ignore ethics and moral philosophy, political philosophy etc.

And you guys are surprised when religious people call you nihilists."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190692 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)12:35:20")

">>12190651
But they are.
I have real life friends like that and every time we have a real conversation their background lackings are showing.
It is not bad or good, but only a proof of how everything is needed and usefull."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190700 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)12:36:36")

">>12190617
>the point is that you are existing whatever that means, and you are interacting with me and everything else that is surrounding you.
prove either of these"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190710 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)12:38:23")

"if there were no contradictions in Hegel's philosophy to sublate, Hegel would have been wrong -- since we have move passed him we have proven Hegel right";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190758 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)12:47:44")

">>12190700
The fact that you keep asking questions through something (machine) and you get answers from me are proofs of both things"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190791 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)12:56:41")

">>12190758
But I don't exist and I don't ask you questions. Proove you're not imagining this convo."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190872 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)13:17:32")

">>12190651

>Philosophy is only natural science and logic
I can see how you misunderstood what I wrote.

Ethics are fine, you can learn even more useful ethical methods in psychology.

>moral philosophy
Come on man. Baseless categories, redundant meta-theory about systems of restraint essentially. Maybe its fun for neurotic people to play around with or the religious to try to resolve cognitive dissonance, I don't know.


>And you guys are surprised when religious people call you nihilists.
I don't know who ''you guys'' are. the rest is a non sequitur.

>>12190791
>Proove you're not imagining this convo.
He is, so are you, otherwise there would be no experience. And this experience depends on the condition of the organism. But going back to the initial question about proving ones existence. How about you try to disprove your existence? You are trapped in this tautology"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190895 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)13:22:27")

">>12189712
in Nietzsche and philosophy Deleuze literally says that dialectics is ideology of christianity."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190910 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)13:26:15")

">>12190872
>I don't know who ''you guys'' are.

The typical citizen-scientist that hasn't read any philosophy of science since Bertrand Russell and the logical positivists.

People who claim that philosophy is "unnecessary proto-science" like you are the same people who use Reddit to discuss the ethics of animal eating and circlejerk about how it's immoral to deport illegal aliens from the country around a family dinner table.

In other words, think before you speak you ignorant retard."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12190972 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)13:43:58")

">>12190910

You could respond to the rest of the contents in the post. This is just strawmanning"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191017 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)13:52:17")

">>12190872
>How about you try to disprove your existence? You are trapped in this tautology
Why? I'm not the one claiming philosophy is useless"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191031 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)13:54:09")

">>12190910
>baseless categories
>redundant
>neurotic people
>resolve cognitive dissonance

No thanks. I've had enough pseudo-intellectual today."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191039 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)13:55:11")

">>12191031
meant for>>12190972"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191047 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)13:56:45")

">>12189653
You're a pseud, and I've never used this term before."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191049 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)13:57:08")

"Derrida would pretty much see Hegel just behind Heidegger and Husserl in terms of influence in his thought";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191065 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)14:01:30")

"The Analytics were right in just ignoring him. Wherever he rears his ugly head, philosophical discourse deteriorates.";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191093 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)14:07:22")

">>12190791
Are you schizoid? If that's the case then you exist inside this "imagining" thing you are talking about, that's the point I think you don't get and it goes back to my main question Why do you want to "prove" this things? All of these things are self evident, whats the point?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191103 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)14:09:24")

">>12190895

This is irrelevant to my point."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191158 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)14:22:37" && image=="bdc.png")

">>12191065

It's probably because Anglos speak English like a second language, thus Language itself is secondary to the Anglo. They find Hegel unassailable on grammatical grounds alone."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191281 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)14:48:31")

"All philosophy post-1800 is absolutely worthless";


if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191329 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)14:58:46")

">>12190555
hands"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191431 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)15:25:42")

">>12191093
>then you exist inside this "imagining" thing you are talking about
That's not existance.

>Why do you want to "prove" this things?
I don't. I said if he can I can dismiss philosophy.

>All of these things are self evident
Except they are not.

>whats the point?
Why do you jump into discussions without reading what kicked those discussions off?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191454 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)15:30:29")

"Since you're a bit slow:
He said we don't need philosophy since we have science and I pointed out that science by itself can't even proove basic things like wether or not you exist.
The fact that he was completely unable to tackled the point in question and took on faith that I exist shows you need philosophy to be equipped for these things.
btw none of us exist."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191467 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)15:33:53")

">>12190560
kek

>>12190895
I love Deleuze but Jesus Christ he has a bad reading of Hegel"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191486 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)15:37:40")

">>12191158
They were just following in Frege’s footsteps."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191492 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)15:39:10")

">>12191467
Hegel would have agreed, for him Christ was a symbol of dialectics"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191504 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)15:42:14")

">>12191492
Still seems lazy to say that Dialectics is the ideology of Christianity"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191523 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)15:47:45")

">>12191158
That's existence because whatever you are, you are asking questions right now, that's self evident, and if you're not schizophrenic it doesn't matter if you are "imagining" it or not, again, whats the point with all this kind of reasoning? What is the purpose?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12191527 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)15:49:01")

if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12192267 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)18:47:00" && image=="Screen Shot 2018-12-06 at 23.46.40.png")

">>12189373
Marx and Adorno? Derrida? Is "trashed" a translation of "aufhebung"?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12192313 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)18:53:12")

">>12191504
For Hegel is pretty much the other way around. Christianity is the highest of religion insofar as it has figured out dialectics and the movement of the geist, but it has no coscience of it. It is trapped in its form, in its figures. Hegel's system is its natural conclusion once it sheds its skin. That's pretty much the whole point of the last chapter of the Phenomenologie."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12192329 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)18:55:50")

">>12189664
hegel is the awkward guy who can't talk to girls at parties but is secretly packing an anaconda"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12192388 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)19:07:53")

">>12189418
When you were in Hannover did you also read some Bulthaup?"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12193308 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)21:53:55")

">>12190555
>prove to me you exist
>prove to me
>me
you already presupposed you"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12193551 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)22:42:04")

">>12189653
>transcedental abstraction from which truth is derived

marx was an atheist idiot."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12193571 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)22:48:06")

">>12190555
Probe to yourself you exist first"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12193817 && dateTime=="12/06/18(Thu)23:41:07")

">>12189373
>Why won't he just die already? His cult is quite honestly unexplainable.
Because he solved the world. Words are words and arguments are arguments, and everything vanishes. Hegel understood the spirit of things: what's real, what's important. Whatever 'logical argument' you put against him is mere chatter unless you can create something of bigger meaning."
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12194682 && dateTime=="12/07/18(Fri)06:11:05")

">>12191467
>I love Deleuze but Jesus Christ he has a bad reading of Hegel
yep, agree. deleuze thinks dialectics are necessary resentful in that it looks for the negative element in everything, whereas hegel, at least in philosophy of history introduction acknowledges this kind of problem"
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if(Anonymous && title=="" && postNumber==12196621 && dateTime=="12/07/18(Fri)15:28:03")

">>12191281
Why?"
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