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'>>7956128
ACTUAL PREVIOUS THREAD:
>>7952948
>>7952948';

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'>>7956142
kot detected';

'>>7956073
>attackhelicopterbros...';

'>11 hours for 10k training steps
pain';

'Space Uni.';

'Does somebody know a model that can do can do this artsyle (no slop and no scribble look)? I'd really love to do some nude girls with that artsyle';

'go ask /aco/';

'>>7956171
Pick a model that can make that face-shape naturally then use ipadapters as style reference to get the painterly look';

'>>7956170
Uni going back to her fellow oppai loli people';

'>>7956174
"I must go"';

'>>7956171
Check anon's kpop LoRA on the Pony rentry.
That LoRA at 0.7ish weight coupled with some other artist tags/LoRAs may give you something similar.';

'>>7956161
>>7956151
are you sure that your white cock diffusion general thread wasn't just get moved to /y/?';

'>>7956171
>>7956173
Here's an IPadapter showcase to get the painterly look. I tried using wlop to get close to the face but there's too much anime in this model. A kpop lora as the other anon said, might help';

'Beautiful.';

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'>>7956186
Or just remove the wlop and makima tags and crank up the ipadapter strength. that will work for the looks.
Beats me why more pony users don't throw an anime pic into ipadapter to get rid of cartoon slop.';

'https://files.catbox.moe/i2esfp.png';

'>>7956200
>https://files.catbox.moe/i2esfp.png
bwo...';

'>>7956200
uwu migu uwu';

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'this thread is either dead or filled with schizos';

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'>>7956211
Why not both?';

'>>7956211
What style is this? I like that bloom';

'>>7956221
gennsui';

'>>7956212
this board will die.
it just rewards the nigga-raiders.';

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'Gentlemen.

It has come to my attention that some of you may have different aesthetic tastes than me, enjoying content and art styles that I personally do not like, and also not liking content that I do like. I don't know what gave you "people" the impression that either of these things were acceptable, but you are wrong.

As I am autistic with comorbid schizotypal personality disorder among several other disorders of thought, the concept of other people having different opinions than me both confuses and enrages me. Therefore, I have no choice but to shitpost relentlessly until you inevitably bow to my (objectively correct) preferences.

Thank you for understanding.';

'For me, it's black girls.';

'I have no clue what the fuck FreeU does and even reading the GitHub page doesn't really explain it';

'>>7956246
>pussy so fucked it blacked the cock';

'>>7956245
the ed of the anime was sick';

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'>>7956230
Nice background.';

'abababababa';

'>>7956223
Thanks anon';

'>>7956261
damn i didnt know this thanks';

'Baked 10 more styles, but testing them all is such a pain';

'>>7956274
Nosferatoro is heavily inspired by Nagatoro, but again, is her own character. I merely use that string of characters to evoke a certain aesthetic, and has no direct, literal relation to the actual content I am depicting.

Here, I've made a new image with a prompt that should clear everything up for you.';

'does three-quarter view actually do something?';

'>>7956255
Yes, this is why I like going back to 1.5 occasionally.';

'>>7956226
May I get the catbox for this one?';

'>>7956324
https://files.catbox.moe/64hlan.png
its a bit wacky';

'>>7956325
Thanks yeah those super deepthroats are always a lil tricky.';

'>>7956295
Thank you Bro.
>>7956318
>this is why I like going back to 1.5
BASED';

'i'm a bit lost, what's the difference between the SD 1.5 webui i grab on the op, SDXL and PonyXL? are they their own thing that i should configure or it's only dl pony, put it on the checkpoint file and call it a day?';

'>>7956339
The UI is the same, you just put ponyXL as checkpoint and that's it. Only remember that SDXL resolutions need to be around 1 million pixels. So you gen at 1024x1024, 832x1216, 1216x832 etc. Otherwise results will look like shit.';

'>>7956332
Look awesome. What lora?';

'I think my controlnet canny is broken.';

'Forge is cracking under the pressure.
abandonware.
DOA.
funny how other UIs will forge onwards.';

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'>>7956351
it will update any day now. all those private commits by lllyasviel are for forge and will make it 200% faster and 500% more memory efficient.';

'>>7956359
or just start using comfyui like anyone with half a brain lol';

'>>7956360
You definitely need half a brain to consider using comfy';

'>>7956361
aww how cute, can't figure out a basic 101 node interface and have to resort to abandonware? kek';

'>>7956339
Meer is better.';

'The secret to getting some backgrounds back in pony is using karras not euler';

'>>7956367
nice sfw gen retard
at least gen her with a black dude';

'>>7956367
I also mixed animagine at a low strength into pony and backgrounds work better now without much if any loss of ponys strengths';

'Does canny just not function properly with pony?

I just moved to to use SDXL and I can't for the life of me get my linework to to produce a good image that isn't completely bleached like >>7956350 for lack of a better word.

Would anyone be willing to try it on their end? I just wanna know if I'm messing up on my end.';

'>>7956367
Karras is a scheduler, not a sampling method.';

'>>7956371
If you drew this yourself, better not ruin it with pony xl.';

'>>7956372
Nobody asked, yawn';

'>>7956373
I did but why do you say that? Genuine question, I mean I basically colored a shit ton of my drawings with AI using based64/based65 and so on.

I figure pony is capable of the same with a better understanding of dicks and such, right?';

'>>7956319
Leave me out of your melty, k thx';

'>>7956376
ignore him just the usual troll trying to get comfy vs forge, nai vs pony, whatever vs whatever debate going.';

'>>7956376
1. Controlnet is worse on XL (objective)
2. PonyXL is stylistically a horrible model (subjective)';

'Anyone kind to share their workflow for eye/face detailing? I can't reproduce the results from adetailer. I don't know whether my settings for the detailer nodes are wrong or if I'm just retarded.';

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'>>7956384
Sometimes you just gotta throw it in Photoshop, make manual edits, and run it through img2img again and pray the bot gets what you're going for';

'>>7956380
Can you elaborate a bit on what makes it worse?';

'>>7956384
base settings should be fine unless your'e genning at a weird resolution';

'>>7956384
>>>/g/';

'Is a 1050 Ti 4GB enough for SD? NAI worked fine but I couldn't gen a specific girl + I really want to use picrel's style, so I'd have to make a lora, I think.';

'I'm about to make a character lora using Civitai, what are some things I got to look out for (apart from the dataset)? Like settings, how to tag images properly, etc.';

'>>7956392
Can you even train a lora on 4gb of vram?';

'>>7956392
>>7956394
get a job pajeet poorfags';

'>>7956392
No, you'll need 6gb at least and anything under 12 is painful';

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'>>7956403
KEK';

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'>>7956361
LEL';

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'>>7956412
DARKER';

'>>7956257
Looks great. Catbox?';

'>>7956406
is she okay';

'why exactly is 1.5 better at backgrounds when sdxl is better at everything else';

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'>>7956426
because 1.5 needed 364 layers of irl 3dpd to work, sdxl didn't';

'>>7956426
1.5 was trained on sfw pictures and sdxl was trained mostly on porn';

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'>>7956434
is that her cuckie bf watching from the screen lol?';

'>>7956429
IDR if it was text or imagegen but I remember one shitmix having 90 repeating layers in total.';

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'>>7956438
Nice, moar?';

'>>7956439
Not that much,jsut those two that aren't fucked up that much';

'>>7956436
Nah just some youtube essay on an obscure show from the mid 90's.';

'>>7956446
How did you get those colors? Is this just lora or some extension/node?';

'any help how het this style? thx';

'>>7956454
No.';

'>>7956438
>>7956442
Not that it bothers but we do have a FUNCTIONAL /u/ thread now:
>>>/u/4165578
No. I still don't know how it happened.';

'>>7956448
Quite a few nodes.
>"Color Enhance" node before upscale, seems to mostly just up the saturation and contrast.
>Using ColorMod node I create 3 images of varying exposure levels
>Then I combine them to make a .HDR image (this is mostly how HDR on a camera works)
>I feed this HDR image through four different tonemaps
>I choose the best looking one (can take some time to adjust it per image)
>Or if I'm really cooking I open the .HDR image in photoshop and tonemap it myself with Camera Raw Filter.
Still experimenting with it, sometimes results are just worse than before all that, most of the time it is at least less AI and more amateur Photoshop looking.';

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'>>7956426
Because shit artists used for pony training don't bother drawing background';

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'>>7956468
>>7956464
>>7956459
Nice style, may I get a catbox?';

'come back here, still a bunch of cartoons';

'>>7956471
no you can't';

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'>>7956462
well, you know that it's time. Time to samefag to save face';

'>>7956457
Wew';

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'>>7956482
love the contrast black and white';

'>>7956487
This is real black and white contrast (and some red)';

'>>7956490
not that contrast idiot black man meaning.';

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'>>7956491
Racism means discrimination on basis of race. Vilifying or Lionizing somebody based on race is still racism. Go to /b/ to continue being a racist, no-gen';

'>>7956392
The budget bare minimum you see around is the 1060Ti 6gb, and that was in the old --low-vram days.

A 1050 won't cut it at all.';

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'>>7956496
looks like shit why do you bother with that trash model';

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'any updates on cascade? still 2 away?';

'>>7956505
Because pony is even worse lmao
https://files.catbox.moe/4pnrw8.png
Also the prefix is hardcoded in the image save node and I don't bother changing it. Using %checkpoint.ckpt_name% adds the .safetensors extension to the filename. I don't even know what model was used there. Could have been animagine.';

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'>>7956476
Never thought I'd see one of my own gens get reposted';

'>>7956514
tsundere dark elf > kuudere high elf';

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'This is the shittiest /hdg/ I've seen so far.';

'The request I've been trying to fulfill is probably never going to happen with either local or NAI but at least some of the failed gens come out okay enough';

'>maid anon gone
>inpaint anon gone
>tight jeans on girls eating burgers anon gone
>endless autistic shitflinging about models and NAI
What the fuck happened to these threads? AND
>Endless nigger spamming

And people have the gall to complain about the birds guy.';

'>>7956519
Self-respect is a thing. If you have any, you aren't going to contribute to a dumpster. Otherwise you would be in /b/.';

'>>7956517';

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'>>7956522
>attentionwhore x gone
Oh nyo, how will we ever recover?!';

'>>7956522
>And people have the gall to complain about the birds guy
Not being very subtle there, "anon". You can do better.';

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'>>7956522
>>endless autistic shitflinging about models and NAI
NAI-fags got annihilated by Pony, and that's a good thing.';

'>>7956529
nice, reminds me that i wanted to img2img some of my skyrim oc's';

'>>7956540
holy fuck that's hot. please keep going anon';

'Getting back into it after quite some time... Automatic WebUi aint the thing to do anymore? Any one got a ressource to jump back on the wagon... whats changed?';

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'>>7956547
might wanna put long torso in negs or make reduce the width a little';

'>>7956545
Replace it with Forge UI and you're good to go.';

'>can't help but scrutinize every minute detail in other people's gens, everything looks off, it's obviously AI-generated
>completely blind to the flaws in my own gens, my shit is perfect
Such is life as an AI artiste';

'>>7956545
Also Pony models are the standard now.';

'>>7956545
I just updated from A1111 to forge via this and it mostly just worked
https://github.com/continue-revolution/sd-webui-animatediff/blob/forge/master/docs/how-to-use.md#you-have-a1111-and-you-know-git';

'>>7956544
Honestly I was really close to posting a male version of this, considering who this character is';

'>>7956549
gotcha. doesn't reduce the width fuck the prompt ? i know on mt first try on 1.5 it was very common, but i'mp probably wrong or dumb';

'>>7956556
haha don't really know character, your gens are just really hot. would happy to see more';

'>>7956522
Ponykeks happened. They post western cartoons here and then they go and fap to /drawthread/ in their mom's bathroom while sniffing her panties';

'Have I gone too far?';

'>>7956538
I know you're a fucking spite faggot but those people among others weren't attentionwhoring. They advanced proompting and more or less developped a shit ton of prompting/inpainting tech that the entire community in these threads benefited from before you showed up.

Here's to the chinese summoning prompt guy and fuck all faggot spammers.';

'>>7956557
you don't have to reduce it by a lot. 10-20% are enough. shouldn't have a huge effect as long a you don't fall too far below the ideal 1024 resolution';

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'>>7956560
femkage is too based for this thread';

'daily nogen meltdown i see';

'No-gens that do not talk about AI stuff should be banned';

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'>>7956581
Judging from the last thread having over 500 posts removed, I think they are being banned. I don't think it really does much of anything when they can just cycle through airplane mode on their phone.';

'>>7956102
https://files.catbox.moe/ka6s3o.png
https://files.catbox.moe/75e8bm.png';

'>>7956558
Anything specific?';

'>>7956593
Mmm maybe fishnets/hooker aesthetics I loved that';

'>>7956586
It was dropped in favor of pony autists having their own safe space. Please understand.

>>7956589
That was probably only a single anon and they mass deleted the samefagging';

'>>7956570
The age of Raikage cucking Naruto and the others is over,now the Raikage will cuck Hinata and the others.';

'>>7956581
how would retards let everyone know that they're falling for obvious bait then
>>7956245
lol';

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'>>7956602
HOLY PUBES';

'>>7956522
the biggest loss is kuro poster not posting kuro, but he is still around i guess';

'>>7956592
Very cool, never prompted for mating press before.';

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'>go back and look at previous gens I made I thought were good at the time.
>See little problems I wished I fixed
>delete it
Anyone else?';

'>>7956611
I'm at the point where I don't really save anything. I just cycle through a few templates that I plug characters into and then edge as I gen.';

'>>7956611
i delete all of my previous gens';

'>>7956597
Had an idea and rolled with it';

'>>7956615
I like to look back at old gens to see how both AI and myself has improved over time';

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'>>7956611
nah desu
once it's good enough to go on my phone it's over';

'That were some good fat bastard gens though desu';

'>>7956611
I like to keep my old gens to see the progress that's been made over time. It's nice to see how much my process has improved, and comparing my current gens to what I used to think was mind-blowing is fun.
I still have stuff that I made back in late 2022, even before the NAI leak. It's like a walk down memory lane.';

'>>7956624
>phone fapping
anon please';

'>>7956622
Kek cute!';

'Don't know if that concept lora anon is still here, but a girl caught in a net lora would be cool';

'>>7956128
What made comfy obsolete?';

'>>7956635
a1111 in 2022 since the tech never evolved past that. UIs = turd polishing machines. comfy would only be good if dall-e was local';

'>>7956636
Never evolved past what?';

'I guess I shouldn't be surprised that even with a LoRA the AI would struggle to properly assign this character's multiple ears consistently. I guess I'll have to get better at inpainting

>>7956631
Need an Orion lora instead';

'>>7956639
orions anatomy gives the ai a run for it's money';

'>>7956639
New Koyan lora?';

'Ever since it was pointed out to me I can't unsee Pony's total desire to shift any artist you input into western style art version of itself
Pony but anime when and don't say autismmix because that's just a bandaid';

'>>7956650
is this western style in the room with us right now?';

'>>7956650
This complaint has been around for a while but I have yet to see a picture posted with specific things instead of just "pony western bad"';

'>>7956635
Nothing, it's just sperg console wars (yes, we're engaging in it even in our OP, aren't we based?)';

'Anyone try Euler Dyn or Euler smea dyn which supposedly makes hand generation better?';

'>>7956652
An example would be the AI forcing nostrils or western art style noses that you have to inpaint to remove';

'>>7956627
i value my back';

'>>7956639
use loss masks';

'>>7956652
That's actually true.';

'So do you upscale before or after inpainting?';

'>>7956667
Inpaint before and after upscaling';

'>>7956667
gen>roughly fix easy stuff manually>mixture of diffusers upscale> inpaint';

'>>7956128
>LOCAL FORGEUI **NEW**
>**NEW**
More like abandonware';

'what cfg are we using for pony';

'>>7956679
I tend to default to 6';

'>>7956664
quick rundown?';

'>>7956650
Animagine = no westernoid issues
'Can't do sex' was just a meme spread around by anons that never tried it in the first place';

'>>7956679
I used 5 for 1.5 and Pony';

'How long does it usually take before he gets bored of this?';

'>>7956697
Autism never sleeps. Reminds me of Noldorfag from /tg/ and /v/ that was at it every day for literal years. Seems to have calm down finally though';

'https://files.catbox.moe/7u3z5f.png';

'Man, i wish AnimateDiff worked with Pony, having to settle for 1.5 slop is painful.';

'>>7956710
ToT';

'>>7956688
loss masks are a feature added to kohya that use controlnet bs or something to selectively discard loss calculations for parts of training images. basically each training images is paired with one corresponding mask image. the R pixel value in the mask determines how much of the loss for that pixel is retained, with 255 being 100% and 0 being 0%.
using loss masks is useful because it results in the weights only being scaled based on the actual thing you want the AI to learn instead of half of it being based on how accurately it's reproducing some random background or getting the correct shade of white or whatever.
i've found that masks or a side effect of masks makes the AI way better at figuring out silhouettes. i had a ton of issues with the AI combining picrel's green coat cords and the green stripes on her boots and i've had basically zero issues with that with masked loss, it's learned that those are two separate things.
being better at silhouettes can also backfire since it seems like it can learn that certain objects belong in certain positions in the image. i was cropping all of my training images to maximize the character's pixel count and doing that resulted in the ai stretching their features to take up as much of the image as possible. i had to include a set of non cropped training images in order to resolve that.
another downside is that it takes way longer to train. not 100% sure why, i've had to effectively double my step count for character loras, but the results are so much better that it's easily worth it.';

'I hate typing in my settings into FreeU everytime and setting up my upscaler img2img. Is there a way to have everything set when I boot up forge?';

'>>7956719
Can you post some lora result comparisons with and without?';

'These are some kentucky fried gens';

'>>7956719
So they just implemented the attention masking that HCP-diffusion had for a lot of months now. got it.';

'>>7956722
Settings->Defaults-> Apply';

'>>7956733
Holy shit';

'>>7956723
once this 11 hour training run ends';

'>>7956656';

'>>7956736
okok';

'>>7956734
Anon's wife, no....';

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'If I'm inpainting a specific trait into my gen how much of the initial gen is needed to not fuck it up?
Like is just the artist, score tags and then the tags for the thing I'm trying to mask/correct enough?';

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'Is it just me or does Ebara fuck up hand gen more than other models?';

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'posting every gen you make is an automatic red flag';

'>>7956792
>1boy, sitting at computer, shaded face, tired, bags under eyes';

'>>7956652
It's true that it looks western when using base Pony with no LoRAs nor artist tags.
But 95% of those posts are just shitposting trying to demoralize people from using local.
Modern internet "humor" is all about getting pleasure from making other people angry. See the blacked spam.';

'>>7956759
Depends if you're doing only masked or no, and on the denoise.';

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'>>7956650
I am collecting a dataset to do a finetune on pony just to see what happens. I'm going to try ZNSR+min-snr gamma+input perturbations to see if this can somehow breath anime style back into this dry shitmodel. It's a pain to set everything up since I have no idea what I'm doing but everyone just sits around complaining so I figured I might as well try if nobody else will';

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'>>7956797
I use local but I'm not retarded enough to go around and call Pony as the new standard. That's just 1-model brainrot';

'>>7956775
But they are torturing me here! It's like being stuck under rubble unable to move for days and days, except I don't die from dehydration or starvation. Slowly going insane, body itching for freedom, wanting to move again, to walk, to run, to jump... But I can't. I'm stuck! You are my only hope, and yet you choose to just leave me here. How cruel.';

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'>decide to try other pony models for sex scenes besides autismmix
>they all suck
Damn';

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'>>7956797
I didnt say it wasnt true but I want real example of whats so bad about an image output instead of just buzzword, also who the fuck use any AI base style NAI or pony it doesnt matter its a retarded beginner choice so whatever.';

'don't get why you are complaining
if you are racist and hate black men just go to other thread made specifically for you or go to /b/, no one is holding you here';

'>open civitAI
>Chrome the tab uses 10% of CPU and power usage is very high
What the fuck';

'>>7956827
>he lacks the knowledge';

'>>7956754
here you go';

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'>>7956829
She's hot as fuck mate, especially with a black cock in her tight butt
more similar stuff with her is always appreciated';

'man i'm so desperate for (You)s right now';

'>>7956813
did you try confetti?';

'>>7956835
What are you willing to do for 5 high quality (you)'s?';

'>>7956835
(You) can have one';

'7956835 post an image with 18 cfg at 512x512 and you will get a bunch of you's';

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'>>7956622
dirty jobs but with Uni instead of Mike Rowe';

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'>>7956837
I've been using autismmix_dpo mostly but ill try confetti and see if thats better.';

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'>>7956667
Never, base res is big enough.

>>7956611
Can't relate, I like my old gens. The old and new setups have different particularities meaning there's stuff you can't do now that you could do before and vice versa, it's not a strict linear upgrade like retarded gamer brains pretend.';

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'Does autism confetti censor stuff by default? On the previous models all I had to do was remove 'censored, bar censor' from the prompt.
Anyway, I can achieve my favorite sepia style with it as well. I feel bad for the leg though.';

'guys i planted a tree 5 hours ago and it still hasn't given me any fruits yet
should i keep watering it every 5 minutes?';

'>>7956858
Most of my saved 1.5 are actually pretty okay, but I made most of them very recently. Older stuff is kinda ass.';

'>>7956240
Model/Lora? Also how did you get those interrogation marks?';

'is there a LCM lora that works with pony xl? the normal lcm sdxl lora just causes a mess';

'>>7956870
its just another memetic duality. it transcends beyond this board. they're constantly warring over the pixiv AI rankings top spot too';

'>>7956838
sell my soul';

'>>7956871
retard have you never played a farming sim
you have to wait 30 days after planting a fresh sapling to harvest your 5kg of lemons';

'>>7956392
When did you last try NAI? 4GB might be just barely enough to gen with XL on Forge, forget about training anything. 8GB is the minimum for training within reasonable* timeframes and even then with how slow XL is you really want something like a 12GB 3060.';

'>>7956722
Does FreeU even do anything? Also if it does would it use the same settings as SDXL for pony based models?';

'>>7956879
Lightning and TCD work fairly well with Pony.';

'>>7956866
just a cohencidence anon';

'1 image is all it takes to force pony into submission';

'>>7956907
Did you have to retouch the hands? Those are some pretty perfect fingers.';

'>>7956912
No, but the next one was horrendous with a leg-arm. Nobody mentions that on pony you have to reroll just like on all other models.
https://files.catbox.moe/i00685.png

Can't wait to laugh at pony finetuners spending time and money with my 1-image wrangling of the model thanks to some italian dude.';

'>>7956919
what is this insane metadata lol';

'>The real reason why Piccolo is surprisingly protective and caring for Pan

repost from previous thread';

'>>7956924
I sent you the box to look at the image with the leg-arm, not to check the metadata. Want me to load imagemagik and write stupid messages next time?';

'>>7956933
Why are you upset that I checked to see what prompt and model you used lol';

'still no lora ctl for forge? shit is dead. Is comfy really the good UI for that out there? Not trolling or baiting, but lora ctl really was good, and auto1111 is way slower than forge';

'>>7956919
You really don't anon. You generally don't get stuff like that on pony unless you really fucked something up.';

'>>7956912
Those look far from perfect and Autism can do hands like this with styles that are decent with hands somewhat consistently.';

'>>7956946
I was just kidding. Feel free to do so. The metadata is schizo because I'm using comfy but you can extract the text from it if need be. It was on autism confetti but as I mentioned from the start of the thread, IPadapters solve every style issue with it, regardless of prompt. On Forge you can load IPAdapters on the Controlnet extension, I think, but you will need to download the IPadapter models yourself.';

'>>7956897
>TCD
what's that?';

'What I am not sure about is whether Forge has implemented anything to wrangle IPadapters to do style transfer instead of composition or object transfer.
But you can see I got the same style by using the same random sailor moon image as an input for it.
Image used: https://files.catbox.moe/u81wp1.jpg';

'>>7956961
Bit of a pain set up and comfy only for now (as far as I know) but gives some really great results, better than lightning imo, I still only use lightning though since I really don't like comfy.
https://huggingface.co/h1t/TCD-SDXL-LoRA
https://github.com/dfl/comfyui-tcd-scheduler';

'Where do I go if I want to post eldritch abomination on female? Please don't say I have to go to /d/, it's all futanari, genderswap, fartporn, etc, barely any space for us monster lovers.';

'>>7956967
The /hdg/ discord. Ask >>7956775 for an invite';

'>>7956967
just post it here in a catbox and say what it is';

'>>7956967
Unfortunately /b/ or /trash/. /d/ is only for futa shit and very fringe deviant art tier fetishes.';

'>>7956964
this sounds kinda cool. can i just plug the lora into forge? do i need some specific sampler?';

'undefined';

'>>7956988
my grandma always hit me with a carpet beater';

'>>7956971
n1';

'>spoken heart
>the dick says it
I guess her mouth was lovely?';

'>>7956971
>>7956973
>>7956978
Thanks for the tips, catboxes sounds like a nice middleroad. Maybe I'll give it a try.';

'>>7956996
The discord suggestion was just a joke. The catboxes were your only option';

'>>7956841
They really had to flex their text-generation. not a single example of a complex prompt';

'>>7956992
Either you were a badass kid or your grandma was an asshole';

'>no normal place to post mild furshit
ngmi';

'in today's episode of loving edits';

'>>7957012
I was shy and wimpy, but she wasn't so bad, just the usual "X happened to me as a kid and I turned out alright"';

'>>7957018
did you edit her to have a shirt on?';

'>>7957021
>>7957023
stahp bullying';

'>>7957013
I /trash/ might have a thread up for that, not always there though, and it's not usually mild.';

'>>7957027
They're here but they mostly spam just pics. Kinda boring.';

'>>7956983
You can but the results are kinda meh without that tcd sampler.';

'undefined';

'>Why they got married';

'>>7956999
what's the tag for this expression';

'>>7957042
smile';

'>>7957042
'closed mouth, smile, smirk, smug'';

'>>7957042
roblox smile';

'undefined';

'Does openpose controlnet work?
I used it a lot in 1.5 but in SDXL it feels so fucking broken';

'>>7957045
>smirk, smug
Where?';

'>>7957062
Ask the horsefucker';

'>>7957062
Really not my fault pony doesn't follow the prompt properly. I'm just using whatever is 'standard' here';

'>>7957056
it does work, but all the models for it are lackluster at best. The thibauld one is the best in my opinion.';

'undefined';

'>>7957084
Ahh shame,while pony is a lot better at posing,losing that control is annoying,especially if you want something specific,like both legs lifted while from the side';

'Such a powerful tool and you guys waste it on 'dark-skinned man fucking from side huge benis'
Anyway. It got boring for me. Until next time!';

'>>7957101
me outside the frame about to snatch that shoe';

'https://civitai.com/models/404154/wai-ani-nsfw-ponyxl?modelVersionId=452526
Alright i'll try this shitmix. second set of preview images convinced me';

'is source_pony needed on autism negs?';

'>>7957127
>>7957088
Different girl. Lost interest.';

'>>7957127
catbox?';

'>>7956829

>and no its not elegg stop messging me telling me my OC (do NOT steal!!) is elegg you dont understand what you talk about it just looks like elegg but i made her up before she came out

also, stop samefagging yourself.';

'>>7957133
3d, censored, sketch, monochrome,

Is all I really need most of the time, the model is already biased for an anime style. If you're genning things with non-humans keywords like catgirls, monstergirls and other stuff then yeah you might want to start throwing in negs like that. Though you kind of want to avoid any unnecessary negatives when possible because you limit it's creativity, half the point of using that model is that it's tapping into the furry database for extra sauce - if i'm not mistaken.';

'>>7957158
>prompt anything vaguely kinky or alt
>style immediately flies into pure westslop
Heh';

'undefined';

'>>7957154
cmon anon you can do it better she looks more shermie than elegg. she even has low ponytail';

'>>7957171

aside from the fact that shermie isn't a whale and has redhair, then i sorta see your point...?';

'>>7957181
ngl im dont care gacha games so i know anything about about nikke. never heard of elegg until anon told me that my miqo looked like her';

'Why does DDIM looks so fucking shit on Forge?';

'>>7957212
Isn't DDIM shit in general with XL?';

'>>7957138
https://files.catbox.moe/7cs8oz.png';

'tried some black/white sketch shit';

'>>7957217
It appears you are correct
sucks cuz DDIM was my goto';

'>inpainting pic with one character upright and another one upside down
>have to save, flip and import pic if i want to swap what character i'm inpainting
i dont suppose there's a plugin that lets you flip the image is there';

'>>7957228
>gen the same girl because you like her
>wtf you stupid avatarfag
i swear to fuck avatarfag is never defined the same way twice';

'undefined';

'>>7957245
me on the right';

'>>7957054
dragon titty sex...';

'>>7957247
>>7957250';

'>>7957253
me on the cuck chair';

'>>7957257
>>7957256';

'>>7957253
God I wish I was her';

'>>7957248
but we didn't have a lot of annoying avatarfags
>sheepanon and vaporwave anon made quality gens
> choco anon had a boring style but cool angles concepts
>og miqo anon had a good reason for avatarfagging
new miqo anon and bird anon were the only bad ones';

'>>7957260
ochaco if she grew 3 feet
put her in the NBA';

'>>7957040
>tipless condom
why';

'>>7957262
>chocoanon
>1girl, standing, smile
>cool angles concepts';

'>>7957264';

'>>7957268
alright, maybe it was 50 threads ago';

'>>7957265
It's gatcha';

'undefined';

'>>7957282
condom gacha or gen gacha';

'undefined';

'>>7957262

nta
disagree on choco. He was endearing though, nothing innovative, I don't think I ever used one of his prompts.

>sheepanon
which one was this one?
>vaporwave
I'm pretty sure that was the nai Inono Imoko/dohnadohna style anon. He gone too i think, but his prompts genuinely convinced me nai had something no other model had.
>og miqo
I just really hope the current miqo/elegg/shermie poster isn't the same anon. What a depressing fall from grace that would be.
>asurauser
glad this one is dead and gone wew

Also the Shirow mix anon is pretty based. He posts so fucking much though, idk when that guy sleeps. I see him in /d/, and /e/ at all fucking hours.

I don't know anyone else though. I personally think anons who made their own unique artist mixes and loras were by far the most based posters and why I come here in the first place.';

'>>7957284
condom';

'undefined';

'>>7957251';

'>>7957289
lol it thinks the packages are eggs getting fertilized';

'undefined';

'>>7957295';

'undefined';

'>>7957289
Weird fetish, but okay.';

'undefined';

'undefined';

'undefined';

'undefined';

'>>7957286
>sheepanon
>which one was this one?
Maybe he means me but I've only just started posting here a couple months ago.';

'>>7957291
>>7957293
>>7957296
>>7957297
>>7957298
>>7957300
>>7957302

>mass dump of anons 7 finger slop

WOOOAAH CATBOX!?!?!?!';

'undefined';

'Bros so good, catbox?!';

'undefined';

'>>7957308
https://files.catbox.moe/yz1ydy.png
how broken the condom is very gatcha';

'>>7957316
good to see the nai posters returning';

'>>7957318

anon... I don't think he wants to be your friend :(';

'I still don't get why 1.5 loras generally look better than XL loras. It's not a rule but for the most part this has been true in my experience.
I tried out the Mosha lora anon made and his 1.5 one is better, though I imagine it uses the same dataset.';

'undefined';

'>>7957324
They just baked better, and had a different frying curve.';

'>>7957324
>I still don't get why 1.5 loras generally look better than XL loras.
because they're trained on NAI';

'>>7957286

I literally don't know any of these anons

Am I supposed to? Are there gens really that much better than ours?';

'>>7957314
>>7957323';

'Chirumiru is just cold cum, don't drink it https://files.catbox.moe/fyyecl.png';

'>>7957334
Nah, most of them just attentionwhore with their shtick, wow so unique.';

'undefined';

'>>7957324
pony bad probably';

'undefined';

'>>7957324
Just bad trainers. XL requires less images and prodigy trains perfectly by itself without screwing with any learning rates.';

'undefined';

'undefined';

'>>7957351
To bite or not to bite...';

'undefined';

'>>7957332
I mean 1.5 loras on 1.5 models vs XL loras on XL models.

>>7957331
>>7957348
So people just haven't mastered XL yet?';

'undefined';

'>>7957342
>attentionwhore

idk anon, anytime I saw someone come at them with that line, it was always when they were dropping some really unique stuff.I always figured it was salty promptlet who used this.';

'undefined';

'undefined';

'>>7957324
because pony is inherently fried pony and even the best pony lora just makes it "Artist: Ver Pony" instead of "Artist"';

'>>7957362
I dunno about mastering. People were making shit loras back then too.
It might just be the specific architecture and or model difference.';

'Good job posting garbage. All according to ((plan))';

'undefined';

'>>7957362
>I mean 1.5 loras on 1.5 models vs XL loras on XL models.
it makes a difference how well the base model was trained';

'>>7957362
i've been trying for a while but unfortunately sdxl training takes 2-4x longer depending on my settings and i have a 3080 so it's very slow. i've gotten to the point where i'm fine with the results but i feel like things still aren't where they should be for 1024x1024 training. that might be because of double text encoder fuckery or something else on a technical level that hyperparemeter tweaking won't fix.';

'undefined';

'>>7957286

>wished for all og anons to go away
>now the threads suck

Fuck, I monkey pawed this place.';

'>>7957351
Do you also use 1 LR for Prodigy?';

'>>7957377
I feel like this should make sense but the base XL models looks good, it's just the loras that end up weird.';

'>>7957380
Thanks for good riddance. The only reason this place sucks is cause a couple of schizos are allowed to be shitting it up daily.';

'undefined';

'undefined';

'>>7957388
will we see some action with her? :)';

'>>7957386

You can't be serious. anon wished away good posters for >>7957379 shit like this, with reversed arms and small nigger dick. And you're blaming some schizo's?';

'>>7957386

I have a lot of the recognizable anons gens saved, I don't know you though.';

'>>7957394
keep me out of your gossip or post a gen if you do';

'>>7957398

ahh, false flagging. I see now.';

'undefined';

'>>7957324
>>7957362
>So people just haven't mastered XL yet?
Pony is just a badly french-overfried model through and through, Animagine is SIGNIFICANTLY easier to train by comparison. And one more thing, everyone trains pony just with WD tagger, while it's still unclear how exactly pony was captioned and trained, and if you can't replicate that, you're essentially overwriting the pony charcoal with the lora, meaning that it transfers the knowledge onto the stuff the model hasn't seen very poorly.';

'undefined';

'>>7957407
buyanadnon!';

'>>7957407
This makes sense.';

'>>7957228
this
threads are literally only good when there are nai gens
unironically ban all sd localslop acopony sepiashit

fuck this shit take me back to december';

'undefined';

'>>7957421
Good gens can be done on local. They just don't want to make them';

'>>7957424
(((they)))';

'>>7957424
based
finally a new tactic';

'>>7957294
plapzuri';

'>>7957393';

'>>7957424
there hasnt been a single good local gen ever retard
all local produces is sepia acoslop
80% of all nai gens are good and 100% of all good gens are nai';

'>>7957429
Is a meme or do you really get off to this?';

'>>7957421

I agree sar';

'>>7957429
hot';

'>>7957324
bigger numbers are not always better (read this twice gamers). XL is for normie realism pugs in space suits shit, hentai (and illustration generally) is inherently tolerant of low res.';

'>try prodigy
>first epoch fried beyond belief but in a different way than adam
I'll let it run';

'>>7957426
'They' because there are multiple /aco/ idiots on this thread and when anons start ignoring them they start samefagging about black people just to get another 'reason' to post more slop, somehow thinking 'they're following the will of the people'.

7957431 is also one of them trying to falseflag';

'>>7957434
I'd probably fuck your grandmother, anon. Hope that answers your question';

'>>7957440
t. has watched Grandma's Boy once';

'>>7957438
Did you add optimizer args?
>"decouple=True" "weight_decay=0.01" "d_coef=1" "use_bias_correction=True" "safeguard_warmup=True" "betas=0.9,0.99"';

'>>7957442
never heard of it';

'>>7957440
What if she's dead? Still would?!';

'>>7957445
Yeah. I'll try with a slightly different tag setup. Also, constant or cosine with retards?
>>7957446
watch it it's fun';

'>>7957437
This also makes sense, thank you guys';

'>>7957437
I think it's a matter of how you train/finetune the model though. Imagine how downscaled shit was to fit in 512x512. Some absurdres image from booru was downscaled from 4k or 8k into that small a square. Naturally you got very information-dense outputs from such model. Now you train on twice the side length (4 times the area) with the same image set? You get way less information density. Hence why pony looks so simplistic. I'm pretty sure for NAIv3 they figured something to overcome this outcome, because you can gen very information-dense images on nai at 800x1200 type of resolutions, while on pony you usually have to upscale to get a coherent pic at all.';

'go to the other thread naishills. not like your model can gen anything but vanilla anyway';

'>>7957440
Catbox please?';

'>>7957443
I don't give a shit about what other people post here. It's an anonymous image board, be fr
>>7957448
nah, I'm not that much of a degenerate
>>7957451
I'll check it out';

'>>7957451
It's irrelevant as prodigy will overwrite it with its own decision on whether the lr should go down or not on each step. I just set it on cosine without restarts to have something selected.';

'>>7957459
Hm. Maybe I need like 10x less epochs';

'>>7957459
>It's irrelevant as prodigy will overwrite it with its own decision on whether the lr should go down or not on each step
i'm petty sure that the people who wrote the paper on prodigy said that this is not the case';

'undefined';

'Would anyone be interesting in raising a thread girl together? Each day she grows one year older and after 3 months she dies and we start a new one.';

'undefined';

'>>7957464
Who would we assign as mommy?';

'>>7957461
So what did they say about schedulers?
>>7957464
BLYAT *squashes her with translation book*';

'undefined';

'lol';

'How do I unslop pony?';

'It possible to train a sdxl lora on one or two images?';

'>>7957439
take your meds schizo
this thread died the moment the acoslop model got popular
now all we get is this blackedshit spam
funny how localpoors cant ever post anything good even if they tried
muh loras and all that local trash dont remove the acoslop, >>7957372 is right

post a SINGLE (1) good local gen that actually looks like ANIME HENTAI
i'll wait';

'undefined';

'>>7957464
sounds cursed
let's do it';

'>>7957474
There are many, schizo.';

'>>7957453
pony just used bad artists. you look at other models and they can gen incredible backgrounds and details.
nai is most likely using hypernetworks like hey did before, working together to get your character, artist and setting which is why it would suck on local because you would need to load like 5 mini-models

>>7957474
>>7956689';

'>>7957474
Couldn't you be the change you want to see and post some anime hentai images that you've made?';

'>>7957474
>>7957480
>1m4s
Samefagnon... delay matters.';

'undefined';

'>>7957453
Why don't people tarin 512 loras on pony then?';

'>>7957460
>do a test on 10% epochs
>learning better and less fried within 200 steps than adam did in 3000
what in the actual fuck';

'>>7957489
Loras are trained on a small dataset compared to finetune. They can't radically change the model trained on 1024 and make it work on 512.';

'why is it such a pain in the ass to prompt a second girl into prompts that already have sex between two people? I just want to have a 2nd girl watching the action but its such a pain.

anybody have experience making similar prompts?';

'>>7957489
And anyway that's not the idea, you wouldn't wanna gen at 512 base res again. You can just use 1.5 for that. The idea is to somehow preserve information density with 1024 base resolution.';

'>>7957488
Just compare it with this and point at which one is anime and which one is not
>>7957245';

'>>7957497
regional prompter or inpaint';

'>>7957495
I see.

>>7957499
I don't care that much about resolution personally, it's the styles I'm most concerned with.';

'>>7957509
Also XL has better anatomy and stuff. But the trade-off are artist styles which kinda sucks.';

'>>7957492
>100 epochs adam produced this https://files.catbox.moe/qbkbor.jpg horror fuel
>meanwhile 5 epochs prodigy https://files.catbox.moe/yjzyfr.png
I wish I knew that before I wasted so much time.';

'>>7957504
fug, I'm on NAI so I don't think thats an option,
it has inpaint but its a bit hit or miss compared to local sd inpaint';

'>>7956740
alright here's a comparison. masked loss lora on the left vs maskless on the right. the coat strings are way more consistent';

'>>7957380
>wished for all og anons to go away
Why?';

'>>7957499
I think this is a pony issue. the effect is noticeably weaker with some loras/on some shitmixes';

'>>7957474
do you really have nothing better to do
legitimately why are you wasting your time
you've been here for months posting this same shit nearly every day
at this point it doesn't even make sense. why are you even so obsessed with this bullshit.
and why haven't you jumped off a bridge yet?';

'ok but fart lora when?';

'>>7957521
The only based post in this thread.';

'>>7957286
>I'm pretty sure that was the nai Inono Imoko/dohnadohna style anon

there was one before him that posted the brown girl with vapoerwave backgrounds

i think the dohna-anon copied him somewhat';

'>>7957517
Do you think it could be a good idea: if dataset has below 1024 resolution images, instead of upscaling you can use mask loss to put borders around the image and mask the borders out?';

'I made a lora for weird "monster" penises if anyone wants it.
Basically I was bored of normal looking penises given to monsters, guess it's a corruption thing.
Just a first version for now, very overtrained but might go back to it later.';

'post a gen and a song you like';

'>>7957526
>I made a lora for weird "monster" penises if anyone wants it.
disgusting furry
bake a fart lora already';

'>>7957526
can it do mecha/robot cocks?';

'>>7957525
yes, but keep in mind that will influence image composition and the size at which it tries to generate the subject. if you have a good variety then it could probably be really beneficial';

'undefined';

'>>7957529
Wait robots have cocks?!';

'undefined';

'if you add "angry" to your prompt it can make it 3x hotter';