'>>7139539
friendly reminder to improve your shape language';

'undefined';

'>>7139546
1. weird unapplealing shape language

2. looks like you are copying blindly the shapes and colors/tones you see without understanding the anatomy that is making those shapes and the 3D forms';

'I tried studying akipeko's style.';

'6_6';

'undefined';

'>>7139539
How do I draw hair better?';

'>>7139575
i recommend you to look for hatching techniques, just learn the simple things and play with them, better if you learn from some artists, just with that you can improve a lot, like, a lot, the overall appealing of your sketches. You already have the base so learning that should be easy and the effect should be also fast to notice.
If you get to have fear in the learning just draw
organic inanimate things because it's easier not to feel frustrated by failed attempts, like nature, trees and plants above all.';

'how do I download better water';

'>>7139579
study hair individually, start with defining the shapes and then the details.
Also if you are one of those drawfags that like to define measurements and distances then sketching a better head will help because you can segment better the areas like the forehead and the side of the ears, so the hairs feels a lot more easy to draw because is like adding volume to the zone.';

'>>7139597
>start with defining the shapes and then the details.
I did that, the initial shape arleady looks bad';

'>>7139591
thank you!';

'HOW DO I LEARN TO RENDER (color) IN A WAY THAT DOESNT LOOK LIKE MS PAINT!?!?!?';

'Happy 4/20, dood! Let’s blaze up and not draw.';

'>>7139629
What is render color drawing?';

'hand practice';

'undefined';

'>>7139646
disgracefully short torso';

'>>7139649
Post it in the horse thread';

'>>7139629
find the image with the look you want and compare how it is different. :/';

'Comic wip';

'undefined';

'>>7139592
Are you using unfiltered tap water for your watercolors like a 3rd worlder???';

'>>7139663
>Crashes through the fucking stratosphere behind you
>heh, nothing personal kid';

'>>7139665
Superb taste.
Do you still hate hands?';

'>>7139665
I do not tell it but I always really like what you're doing. ;_;';

'>>7139646
hot as always
you're good, man
I wish we could actually animate our creations like pygmalion
I would fuck your drawings
3d-printed shells for android waifus WHEN';

'dnd gnome';

'undefined';

'>>7139668
I'm not from the 3rd world, I buy the best one from the water caravan every thursday. I don't even have to boil it to remove the cholera, that's how clean it is.';

'>>7139668
Okay, I have shitty tap water, does that really affect it?';

'>>7139716
Proportions too close to human. No one would know he was a gnome if not specifically stated';

'>>7139125
Thank you. I'll apply these!!!';

'>>7139736
well yeah but gnomes are ugly';

'Other than just finer detail/more well drawn rock faces and the such what obvious things could I do to make this pop more?
Is it obvious that it's a mountain lake?
I wasn't really sure how to use white on the ground since it's already being used for the unshaded sky and water.';

'>>7139742
why is that mountain getting good head';

'>>7139742
>Is it obvious that it's a mountain lake
not even a little bit';

'>>7139742
>>7139744
here's what I mean';

'>>7139744
>>7139747
You can't expect your mountains to do their job if they're sexually frustrated';

'undefined';

'undefined';

'tablet broke so I had to go back to pen and paper';

'How bad for like a 4th/5th day of trying to learn to draw by practicing?';

'>>7139768
very cool';

'>>7139716
>Gnome
>Elf ears
>Archer

Nice drawing doe';

'>>7139718
haha, you made him white. good riddance.';

'>>7139778
>doe
what does a female deer have to do with this?';

'>>7139782
Sparky's future wife';

'>>7139778
I just went with the pic on the pathfinder wiki but less spiderwick chronicles';

'>>7139646
i can tell you draw poses from AI b/c there's no reason for your arms to be doing what they're doing.
in this particular one, there's a big disconnect between her right arm and the rest of the pose';

'>>7139786
so he's a furry? fucking disgusting.';

'>>7139788
Is that not just the generic anime girl arms out for big tits pose?';

'I have sold out to ai. I'm aimaxxing';

'>>7139788
source :your ass
I use character sheets for inspiration for the poses
also name one ai that can draw hands and feet';

'Trying to make some kind of chain link hanging up a cloth piece. I kinda feel like this is "good enough" but do you have any tips to make it better?';

'>>7139809
:]';

'>>7139815
Give the link some outline its blending with the background or change the color to be darker';

'Can someone link Bridgman books?';

'>>7139829
yup';

'Desperately trying to overcome my artblock by forcing myself to draw the first thing that comes to my mind.';

'Only some people can learn how to draw, it's a skill that can't really be taught by just anyone. Drawing skills are most likely linked to something in the brain that's activated at a very young age, which can lie dorment for decades until you try drawing. People with this skill notice almost immediately that drawing isn't that hard, it's actually super easy, "why does other people struggle with this" they usually think to themselves.. heh, they just don't know they've been blessed with the very rare "Art-gene".

if you've been drawing for about 1-2 years already but can't seem to improve you've most likely, about 100%, don't have the "art-gene"';

'>>7139718
Consider picrel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwRa5qTnr8o';

'>>7139856
Don't care if I don't have the gene I'm going to keep trying anyway.
Talent just means they improve faster than me, not that I can't keep doing it';

'Attack kun here, anyone who wish to have their artwork brutally raped by criticism and commentary, tag me. Be warned, I'm attack kun, I show no mercy.';

'>>7139856
Suck my dick';

'>>7139867
and then his heart explodes';

'>>7139856
Any retard can reach an acceptable or employable level, genetics only carry you to the top 2% the way they do in sports.

Maybe you'll never be the next Frazetta or Moebius but what's stopping you from being the next Korean romaboo autist, that's still way better than giving up like a bitch.';

'>>7139860
oh sinix
he was one of the main people to turn shape language into a dumbass buzzword(s)';

'>>7139898
>>7139863
>>7139867
Cope lmao
You've all probably peaked already too, just like me and 99% of the people on /ic/.
The skill ceiling/skill cap of the "non-gene"-havers is very low unfortunatelly. Unless you're selling coom to coomers I doubt you're actually "employable" anywhere.
Most of you all get filtered when asked to draw primitive shapes like boxes, cylinders, cones, ect. correct in perspective haha';

'>>7139539
bros.....';

'>>7139920
pyw';

'Oh ok he's projecting. Nothing to see here.';

'>>7139929
ok';

'>>7139933
Looks like you peaked in 2nd grade';

'Should i give it a go today?
I could do it. I have the time.
I could start learning how to draw. Should i?
Is it worth it? I'm fairly confidwnt i could "make it" given enough time and practice. So, should i try to?';

'undefined';

'More practice. Going to need more watercolor practice, and new gouache because I want tubes not pans.';

'undefined';

'>>7139843
lol, delightful stuff';

'>>7139952
learn to observe more accurately, anon.

Watch Krenz';

'>>7139974';

'>>7139924
wuh happn :(';

'wink';

'Drew a can opener';

'>>7139720
lol';

'excluding some head scribbles on a couple days, the entire week's worth of drawing
i guess it's no wonder that after 2 months i still can't get a figure right
stagnating hard with the morpho copying lately';

'>>7139933
nice masonic digits

ask /x/ for advice';

'>>7139843
Will you do a Bomberman series?';

'>>7139979
nice ayy lmao';

'>>7139838
nice feet, do you use a specific book or twitter to copy from?
same with the hands';

'>>7139989
good';

'Can someone explain how the fuck my quality dips so much when tired?

Like I dunno why I can't seem to draw as well when it's tired and late. I am constantly angry that I can't draw properly and things look flat and way more off than I think they should look.
Like I recognize it looks wrong but I am imagining you guys calling it a symbol drawing which I think makes it worse or something.

I feel like I can't get the handle on the loomis method half of the time, think I just need to do more Loomis heads or something?

I notice also when I am tired I can't get the right width for things so they look way wider than they should.';

'What should i draw? I'll do literally anything.';

'>>7140042
this >>7140030';

'>>7139539
Which one of the four stickies should I use?';

'>>7140044
Do i just copy the drawing or what?';

'>>7140037
actually I have
this book and the pixiv link are everything you need to know about feet
https://e-hentai.org/g/2072052/4327463a6e/
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/105983110';

'>>7140042
Draw this';

'>>7140056
fuck off with these pedoshit links faggot';

'>>7140037
for the hands, the bridgman of coom, Trylsc hand sheets
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/69214408';

'>>7139962';

'>>7140040
If you're too tired to draw, just edge yourself.

instant energy boost.

If you want, I can send you my recommended list of buttplugs and cock milkers ;)';

'>>7139762
>>7139952
>>7139979
>>7140030
>>7140042
>>7140048
December 16th, 2022';

'>>7140064
No thanks, that just makes me more distractable.';

'so like if the light source is blue what color would the shadows be?';

'>>7140086
value>color';

'>>7140086
The color and value of the object the shadow falls on is much more significant';

'>>7140057
Too hard and also makes me too hard.';

'>>7140091
>>7140057

ill draw him then';

'>>7140086
General rule of thumb - warmer light source = relatively cooler shadows, cooler light source = relatively warmer shadows
Because less blue light is able to get into your shadows, the shadows will be relatively warmer (or rather less blue) compared to the lit areas. This doesn't mean your shadows should be full-on crimson, just relatively less blue.
The exact color can depend on a lot of things - the object's local color, intensity of the light source, reflected light from other objects, what kind of rendering style you're going for, etc.';

'I need some sort of external motivation to get into this.
I wonder where to find one, though.';

'>>7140101
I take drugs. Unfortunately working 60 hour weeks still doesn't help me want to draw when I get home.';

'Ragequit loomis after i couldn't get into it 2 days in a row, switching to NG lee.';

'>>7140104
I work 0 hours and i still can't get it done.';

'>>7140130
What was the issue with Loomis for you?';

'>>7140136
Didn't have a problem with FWAP but the scans of his head drawing book were too low res and i was too retarded to make any sense of it.';

'I want to draw.';

'>>7140147
When Gotham is ashes, you have my permission to draw.';

'>>7140057';

'>>7139665
its good but i hate looking at it';

'>>7139539
WIP';

'>>7139809
>>7139646
daily reminder you don't belong here and to stop humbleposting for compliments from us begs';

'>>7140155
This is beg+int, not only beg though';

'I wish that i wanted to draw.
I'm just apathetic rn.';

'I know I won't get (you)s because this is a niche aesthetic but I think it looks cool. Peak 80s dark sci-fantasy looking.
>>7140057
Too gay';

'>>7140162
kino alien bro';

'>>7140150
lol he turned into an anime face';

'>>7140155
Just ignore him if you think he's fishing for compliments, but I think it is beneficial for the general to have a consistent /int/ poster.
Let's not act like people here don't frequently ask to pyw.';

'>>7140057
>>7140097


sorry i ran out of paper for the torso';

'>>7140157
he isn't beg or int, he's so far past int its not funny
>>7140169
if he was giving advice I wouldn't care. he doesn't. he just blog posts his semi-pro level works, occasionally argues with crabs who criticize his art, and leaves.';

'>>7140164
Thank you
>>7140172
You made him into a chinlet';

'>>7140174
here
>>7140056
>>7140059';

'>>7140174
>he's so far past int its not funny
Bro? Think of the most skilled artist out of your favorites and see if he can even compare. He's int.
Picrel if he bothers you that much.';

'>>7140155
>skilled artists should LEAVE
>I DON'T want them around to give advice
U silly billy';

'>>7140057
A bit too meaningless for me';

'>>7139668
what? i mean >>7139725, is kind of true that a more pure water is better, but is because the ph of the water i think. On the other hand of course, of course if the tap water of your region is poorly prepared and is more hard of course could be more noticeable, i think also some people in the u.s had this mindset that tap water is bad for some reason, but probably they local water is worst so that could be, i dont know.
In most common countries the tap water should be ok because is not hard and not much prepared. But... yeah you could just test the shit if you want, just use a paper and make samples, one with your tap water, one with i dont know, bottle water, one with distilled water, and look.
Yeah in most countries tap water should be ok to use.
Remember that the quality of the watercolor is also important.';

'guys what do i do if i want to draw but i lack motivation and willpower and the work ethic?
Spent the entirety of today thinking about maybe doing and i haven't even though the entire day was free';

'>>7140193
i think you need to force yourself to start initially and then find its more enjoyable then you thought it would be, if you dont have the work ethic then build it gradually, form habits';

'>>7140193
>need to work on your work ethic
>have a hobby that's easy to start that you want to get into
It's a perfect match. Get a small sketchbook and do a couple doodles every day. You can work up from there';

'>>7140040
are you really asking why you do things wrong when you are tired? should i answer as if you were a child?
Yes, your quality and focus is lowered when you are tired, like, in all you do, because your brain and muscles can work properly, because you are tired.
Solution = dont be tired.
How? plenty of ways but i recommend making exercise, at the beggining you will feel more tired, but in some weeks the energy boost of an improved body will make his magic.
What exercises? all of them, all are good: aerobic exercise to have more stamina and better brain oxygenation, anaerobic exercise to build muscle to have resistance; legs-glutes to not feel fatigue for hours of sitting, core and back to not feel back pain and secure posture, top and arms to have more draw stamin, and daily mandatory wrist-hand-finger exercises to not fall in the you know, those kind of pains,
carpal tunnel, joints, ligaments.
Also if you are obese, yeah, dont be.';

'>>7140205
You're responding to a habitual baitposter';

'>>7140211
So a crislike?';

'Where do I start for learning how to color, specifically in digital drawing';

'>>7140211
I'm not
>>7140205
I know that's a common tactic that goes well outside the sphere of art, but doing 5 minutes of a thing seems like such an insignificant commitment that i might as well not do it at all.

I also don't even have enough ability to doodle anything. I straight up can't draw a thing unless i just copy or do from reference. Even then it's pretty shitty.';

'>>7140217
>I know that's a common tactic that goes well outside the sphere of art, but doing 5 minutes of a thing seems like such an insignificant commitment that i might as well not do it at all.
You're building up the habit, which is the point. Obviously you should go further on the days when you're interested in drawing, but what I'm saying is to do /at least/ a couple doodles a day
>I also don't even have enough ability to doodle anything. I straight up can't draw a thing unless i just copy or do from reference. Even then it's pretty shitty.
Well you're new so that's to be expected. An exercise I heard about and remember doing when I was new was to pick some reference and try to draw that without ever looking down at the page. It helps you get over the expectations that hold you back.';

'>>7139979
right mindset but need more thinking, try to use those boxes in the pelvis

>>7139998
you have all the time, of your life, so dont worry just go at your pace. If you feel bored just draw some funny shit, dont have to be good just funny to you, you will said "haha this shit is so stupid" or something like that, and you will laugh, then that feeling will come out from the inside to call you to draw again, from that you will gain motivation. Also this answer is for >>7140193.
And yes, if you dont have any fun or possitive feeling in the process, you are fucked from the start. Is highly, highly, recommend work first in the psychological aspect because a good mental disposition basically does all the work, if you don't have it, life in this craft will be a martyrdom, and no one is interested in you being a drawing martyr, because that sounds stupid also.';

'>>7140225
>was to pick some reference and try to draw that without ever looking down at the page.
Seems pretty hard but i guess that's the point.
I'll try to get started on that tomorrow and then do at least a wee bit of bullshit around the same time every day.
It's getting pretty late today, but tomorrow for sure i'll get it done.

I assume that KtD is good enough for right now?';

'>>7140227
>And yes, if you dont have any fun or possitive feeling in the process, you are fucked from the start. Is highly, highly, recommend work first in the psychological aspect because a good mental disposition basically does all the work, if you don't have it, life in this craft will be a martyrdom, and no one is interested in you being a drawing martyr, because that sounds stupid also.
The process of drawing itself is pretty fun, but i've never once been happy with the result yet and that's really what i'm after.
I'd rather have doing the work feel like shit and then get good results as opposed to how it is right now.';

'>>7140228
>Seems pretty hard but i guess that's the point.
Anything you draw like that will end up looking fucked. It helps you, at least a little bit, get over the gulf between your skills and standards. Obviously don't do it for all drawings but do it a bit.
>I'll try to get started on that tomorrow and then do at least a wee bit of bullshit around the same time every day.
>It's getting pretty late today, but tomorrow for sure i'll get it done.
You should draw... NOW
>I assume that KtD is good enough for right now?
No clue what that means but probably';

'>>7140240
Keys to Drawing, AKA the apparent retard level book';

'>>7140245
>Keys to Drawing, AKA the apparent retard level book
Yeah, sure. Honestly mileage (of subjects outside comfort zone) counts more than anything, but there's no harm in going through one of those art guide books. Especially if you're having issues with direction.';

'>>7140240
>You should draw... NOW
It's 3AM, sadly. The hour of the witches.
>>7140245
I've been filtered by this book on multiple occasions and none of the advice contained within has ever been of use to me.

The aevice on how to copy is just impractical bullshit.
I also could never get even close to drawing a machine of any kind.
Hands were super easy, though';

'>>7139967
Thank you!
>>7140017
Not really, was just a random drawing.';

'I wish i could draw well';

'I'm going to sleep now.
Should ibspend 8 hours drawing tomorrow?
I could do it. I don't know if i should, though.
I don,t reallt habe anything better to do, though';

'>>7140214
color theory';

'Sup begosis. Idk what is up, but it feels i am hardstuck. also fuck skulls. Also it is astonishing how you anons keep replying to howies who dont post their work.

>>7140162
people in 1980 didnt know how to do clean lines? or what is that style you talk about?
>>7140046
they all plus minus lead to the same destination. it is up to you if you prefer the one which just points you towards art books / video courses, or the one which tries to "summarize" whole craft into few pages of text and confusing illustrations. check out my own "sticky" while you are at it
pawell2418.github.io/wisdom.html
>>7140040
drawing is mentally exhausting activity (unless you are doodling), dont expect it going well when you aren't in top form
>>7139998
you drew 6 figures per week? try 60
>>7139989
respectable
>>7139924
that is exactly how i am feeling lately
>>7139843
very nice and clever. speaking of art block, dont you have your own "TODO" draw folder? whenever i see something cool or clever i save it with grand idea of later using it as inspiration. but looking at my current drawing rate i will sooner die than deplete all shit i want to draw lmao
>>7139836
literally read OP
annas-archive.org/search?q=George%20B.%20Bridgman
>>7139772
it is beg, but nothing you wont fix by drawing more
>>7139768
how did you kill your tablet? on mine are just annoying scratches
>>7139716
SOUL
>>7139649
horsie :3
>>7139592
very nice
>>7139564
it looks like she had symmetrical shield/armor just for her breedable hips
>>7139552
i would put eyes a little closer and definitely moved ear back to add depth to head, but honestly it might be the infamous "Anime" style';

'Im currently stuck at how to do the process of learning, do I go step by step, drawing anatomy but keeping myself to just getting the form until I get that part "right" and then move on to the next subject, or do I just go all in, and try whatever thing im trying at the moment, then lineart that, or shade/ink it, color it, do a background/foreground, put some perspective, have the drawing interact with something, etc. I feel like im getting the hang on anatomy while having zero knowdlege on the... literally everything else,
Im getting the itch to just download every single image that I find while browsing, and then trace/ draw a copy next to it while dissecting them in their component parts to understand their structure, which will not help to find a style, but I feel it will help me get the overall fundamentals well.';

'>>7140274
>people in 1980 didnt know how to do clean lines? or what is that style you talk about?
The design, not the rendering';

'>>7140274
this brush hides how bad the skulls are';

'>>7140274
Thank you and not really, i usually draw big stuff when i have a day off at work, and spend the whole free time drawing after shopping and doing chores, takes me hours but i finish the drawing on the same day, if i dont finish the drawing, it will most likely sit on a corner of my images folder and stay forgotten until the end of times.

Also most of my drawings used to be sketches on garyc, those were easy to do and cant leave them for later because they were on browser.';

'>>7140274
You need to actually follow the guides you gave yourself anon... There's no point in drawing boxes if you're going to ignore them. Start by looking at actual skulls and drawing them, then you can try and do the box trick and get outside of the reference but still keep it in view.';

'>>7140276
Make a "finished piece", colored and all, that'll tell you what you need to work on';

'>>7140172
You did a good job on the head anon, but wtth happened to the neck/torso?';

'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duDtuZ6W2Q8';

'>>7140250
Yeah I'm getting filtered again by it, currently in a state of not knowing what to do';

'Doing some portraits';

'>>7140306
he has a long neck, the game was rigged from the start';

'>>7139809
>>7139838

you have a pixiv? or twitter?

>>7140056
thanks';

'>>7140174
bro, no matter how good you draw anime girls in a void youre still not expert level if that's all you can draw
Also let's say he is an expert, why do you want to drive out actually good artists from this board?
>if he was giving advice I wouldn't care
he DOES give advice you fucking newfag';

'>>7140057
I tried to make a male figure and the end result is hilarious kek
>>7140155
and where else should I post, this is the only general that is not dead
>>7140340
I have a pixiv acc but I'm not very active
users/14735673
>>7140354
this dude gets it';

'>>7140354';

'>>7139863
Talent means you won't embarrass yourself publicly or online with your cringe ass deviant art sonichu permaprebeg scribbles, you absolute Krueger';

'>>7140086
any.
physically - shadow has no color.
artistically - complimentary hue for more contrast.';

'can someone redline for me? i've forgotten how to draw faces';

'>>7140361
Now i’m going to put that face on all my male figures';

'after drawing for 2 hours while sitting for 8 hours, my butt hurts

fuck, its over';

'>>7139539
They are consistent?';

'>>7140385';

'>>7140361
https://youtu.be/qme9hlDR9WE?si=hsgOtk2ImkmP2kcj';

'>>7139809
Not bad, you could stand to draw them exisiting in a space more, even if it's just a bathroom or sitting on a bed. I'd also like to see how you color if you have any examples.';

'>>7140361
>and where else should I post, this is the only general that is not dead
you need to ignore shizo police. they are the reason we have doulble name now, but they just can't help themselve. all they want is to get under your skin one way or another. :';

'I told myself I was pull finish this page in one day and the day ends in ten minutes so fuck it.';

'>>7140099
Fuck, I wish I had read this earlier';

'>>7140423
Interesting; poetic and evocative.';

'>>7140057
Face is complete shit, im not sure what im doing wrong.';

'>>7140076
>>7140362';

'society truly needs it's compost
i am truly the worst artist to ever exist on planet earth...two years wasted for nothing
truly the only way here is to jestermaxx, letting others see how much better they are and why therefore they shouldn't quit';

'Bros...
I am starting to think my brain is too fucked for faces. Autists can't recognize faces, right?';

'>>7140430
You have to give me credit for whatever gains I’ve made so far - if your average Japanese pro has been drawing for 20 years or so, then my 1.5 years would place me at just about 2nd grade level of draftsmanship.';

'rate';

'>>7140439
Mogs me/10';

'>>7140057';

'>>7140446
that's so cool man';

'>>7140449
TY mate!';

'>>7140435
Do real portraits, learn skull and basic planes. Then go study anime, learn how they use symbols to do it aesthetically pleasant.';

'how do you decide what to draw when your head is empty? I feel like forcing reps wouldn't be productive';

'>>7140435
Yes that's why we have to learn specifically how the face works
You can draw realistic faces and memorized all the anatomy details of the head right?';

'undefined';

'>>7140436';

'who's the date posting schizo now';

'>>7140553
I'm the original real deal

Verification not required';

'>>7140362

The hips are a truly beautiful construct. It's a tough area to handle. Also, why do you have this saved? Why are you posting this 2 months later?';

'>>7140562
Motivation

Verification not required';

'i am never getting out of prepre/beg/';

'>>7140563
What about it motivates you? Genuinely curious.';

'>>7140566
Don't people love it when somebody like Michael Jordan gets autistic and says "And that's when I took it personally." ?

But if some no-name fuckhead /beg/ incel starts getting autistic, and has nothing to show for it, he's just a loser. I have a stake in proving "that" entity wrong, even if the original people who crabbed me have moved on from this board, "that" thing which I'm referring to is a force of evil in this world, and by submitting my shit art here, and keeping track of previous crabs, I can affect some modicum of wholesomeness / positivity into the universe.

But don't ask me now because I still suck and have nothing to show for it, therefore, my argument is invalid.

That and I attribute my journey into drawing 100% to /ic/, and because of that, I owe all of /ic/ culture my life - the good and the bad of it.

Verification not required';

'>>7140569';

'>>7140569
Low iq schizo esl';

'>>7140572';

'>>7140569
The ref poses are completely meaningless';

'>>7140574
Verification not required.';

'>>7140435
Then explain the literal thousands of autistic japanese anime artists in their moms basement';

'>>7140577
Not every autism is the same';

'is this anything';

'Art truly reflects who you are as a human being, and i am a horrendous disgusting failure, a catastrophe without any chance or hope of retreival or fixing.';

'>>7140598
Let us be the judge of that. Post your work friend. Sometimes artists are just too hard on themselves with out a reason.';

'>>7140598
What method of killing myself would be the best for me, /beg/?';

'>>7140601
look at this fucking dogshit, i understand why i quit years ago, when i was 14 or so
>Verification not required.';

'they always stop typing whenever they realize how shit i am and it's not just whining without reason :D';

'>>7140605
>>7140602
>>7140610
>>7140598

Well you've developed more style than I ever have in my 1.5 years of drawing, and you can see how much bullshit I've drawn in this thread alone.

Besides the usual recommendation of more mileage / studies, whatever, the primary thing that fucks all aspiring artists up (for whatever reason) is that they all doubt themselves and hate their art, even though they all have 10x more talent than I ever did when I personally started out.

>>7139762
>>7139952
>>7139979
>>7140076
>>7140362
>>7140430
>>7140436
>>7140533
>>7140560
>>7140563
>>7140569
>>7140570
>>7140573
>>7140575


Verification not required.';

'>>7140612
Whoops, that one post without the (you) next to it was not me but a fanart

Like I said, it's a paradigm / mental shift that has to take place. You have to love yourself first.

Verification not required.';

'>>7140612
i don't know how you keep your mental intact when you draw like this anon, this truly seems like a colossal task and i must applaud you for not quitting or getting turbo blackpilled like i am';

'undefined';

'>>7140616
I got a guy who was crabbing to start opening up, and when he posted his art, it again had style already, something which I still lack.
The picture on top is the same one as from
>>7140570

I mean you clearly have a basic grasp of 3D forms; it's a good foundation upon which to lay a shit ton of studies / mileage / memory drawings, but like I said all those are secondary to dealing with whatever mental hangups you have first.

But I'm just crazy schizo.

Well, best of luck to you. My soul will always be trapped on /ic/ no matter what. I'll come crawling back every time. No matter what.';

'undefined';

'undefined';

'>>7139539
so I'm drawing an OC and I found shoulder looks a little "off". Something about it gets me a bit rankled.

Am I just being weird or is there something wrong with it?';

'undefined';

'>>7140624';

'last 3 poses i forgot to post, i think i stop here and will work on hands and feet

drawing all these 50 poses i were trying to get more consistency between body parts, also i understand now that to draw sexy stuff you don't need to emphasize every single muscle and detail, it's better to leave for imagination (like it's better to use tones for boobs than lines). will work on it in next poses after study more anatomy (shoulders and legs still kill me), maybe will switch to digital';

'>>7140629
Why was I tagged to find this image, if I may ask?';

'>>7140635
>Lord chin chin
Chinpo is japanese for penis :)';

'>>7140612
I can tell youre shitting out your drawings in a hurry so you can schizo post with a timestamp on /beg/ you'll never make it at this rate';

'undefined';

'>>7140649
Nobody cares bro';

'warming up to a piece of zelensky propaganda maybe';

'>>7140646';

'>>7140656
these memes are only funny if you can actually draw, try again in 5 years';

'>>7140658
Verification not required.';

'>>7140651';

'>want to draw a character
>shit I need references
>search for an hour, can't find reference
>lose interest
God.... DAMMMIT';

'>>7140666
search for shit today and then draw it tomorrow
ya retard';

'wip.
using references this time.
trying to capture his glare here. i just think it looks neat.';

'>>7140667
I'll be bored of it by then. I want it NOW.';

'I wish i could draw';

'>>7140681
pick up a pencil and paper and draw';

'>>7140446
It be preatty nice
>>7140429
Face is flat.
Loomis loomis,
If you want more tips. See where the atlas connects to the skull on the skeleton this might help you visualise/understand, also a skull study could help you understand how the face is a bit forward.
You showed me yours now I will show tou mine.
I can't figure out how to texture rock yet. Maybe it will come to me.
Anyways, i need phresh eyes, anything wrong with the body/pose/proportions';

'>>7140696
Forgott pic god dammit. Reply to this post';

'>>7140694
If only it were that simple';

'>>7140710
it is
go draw and who cares if it sucks.
gotta start somewhere';

'Howie talking to himself now?';

'>>7140402
He’s incapable of any of that because he copies character sheets and those don’t have any of that';

'i need to work at the simpsongs and need help';

'>>7140697
Sword is fucking huge, did she steal it from Sephirot?
Arms look a little weird, like im not sure what part of the right arm is the elbow, looks like she has two, since there are two protrusions that look like they could be the elbow, meanwhile the left arm seems to be about 10 cm longer than the right arm, once again im not sure what curve is supposed to be the elbow. The muscle circled in blue looks very unnatural. The left hand and the forearm seem to be joined but without the wrist, it''s lacking that annoying curve at the end of the forearm that makes it look like a wrist, if you were to just cut what's inside the yellow box, and bridge the gap between the hand and the forearm it would look more natural imo, same with the right forearm, which I believe should have ended at the point where the bracelet starts.
Last one it's just a nitpick since I dont know the character and it could be just the way she looks, is it me or is her head huge in comparison with the face? I recreated what I think would be the shape of the cranium and the dividing lines and to me it looks like the forehead and rest of the head is a tad bit too big. but once again, in this one I think that may be just me and she is supposed to look like that at all angles..';

'>>7140735
It was supposed to be a nodachi sword. Quite big
As far as arms go. Yeeeaa. . They are a bit weird.
I defined things that probably didnt need it.
Right Elbow(olecranon) is marked. The other bit is the boney protrusion of the humerus at the elbow is marked with blue
And brachioradialis is marked with br (blue)

Left arm is a tad loong. I eyeballed it , i shouldnt have
The weird muscle is supposed to be the medial triceps head. It dips next to the loecranon ( tendon starts there)
Hair is puffy so head appears bigg.
Major mistakes: imo are the overlydefined bulshit parts, and left arm too loong';

'>>7140696
Ty mate!';

':D';

'>>7140766
turned a pinup pose into a plastic toy pose
both have some charm tho';

'>>7140766
It's fucking stiff yo! you need some vilppuu gesture bro.';

'>>7140766
>Don Felder takin a ride starts playing
Awooga.

I kneel.
Im saving this.
I love it.
Thank you.
This is wonderfull.
Now i know what i must DD do

(. .)
( )( )
/ ! \
( \/ )';

'>>7140697
I think it’s got alot of style anon, the face is a bit off to me, but thats probably because there’s too much hair.

I’ve been doing request thread to get practice in when i don’t know what to draw and i’ve really think it’s been helping. Decided to do a request yesterday in charcoal and go ham.';

'>>7140714
why are you answering for him obsessed faggot, seething in every single thread he posts in.
the jealousy and misery is very obvious btw';

'>>7140790
I think i did an upsie on the inking.
Pre ink
Zooming in. Ye . Too much hair';

'>>7140274
It's actually crazy how none of the skulls actually fit the boxes beneath them';

'>>7140274
How do you fuck up this badly? I actually don't understand how someone becomes this';

'>>7140790
link to request thread?';

'>>7140808
try the skull in box exercise and find out
if anything I'm glad our ceo is actually doing the exercises instead of just copying the book';

'>>7140402
I have this one in color
my colors and rendering are very weak so it's just flat colors with some hard shadows';

'>>7140808
I don't understand how someone becomes a shitty namefag';

'>>7140809
>>>/aco/8144742';

'>>7140808
at least he isn't a namefagging nigger like you. go back to twiter with the tranny memes';

'Tenten Vs Xiao Wei Chun, who wins + who has the better method + who explains Bridgman style blocks better ?';

'>>7140274
I don’t say this often, but you may actually benefit from life drawing.
You can buy a cheap baby skull from Amazon if you want to practice drawing skulls';

'Spent so much time on this and can’t get any engagement online lmao';

'>>7140274
you triggered someone';

'>>7140846
samefag';

'>>7140844
That do be how it is. Though posting on weekends hilarious usually means less interaction. Gotta post while people are bored at work. The arms are a tad off too, needs a little more foreshortening indication';

'>>7140844
She's fdeformed.';

'https://youtu.be/ifs4zmWD3ms?si=FMDOOxjang2b1YqI';

'>>7140844
appeal = engagement.
It's that simple.
If it's not sexy or cool, it's worthless on social media. This is neither.';

'>>7140844
I can tell you why.
>ugly face
>ugly hands/belly/clothes
>boring pose
>boring background
>looks messy';

'>>7140900
Pyw';

'>>7140900
Do you have any work you would suggest I look at for inspiration?';

'How do you know if you’re a schizo?';

'>>7140952
By posting on this website, probably. I swear 4chan is the world’s foremost breeding ground of untreated mental illness.';

'>>7140057
No idea how to color from grayscale without looking muddy and without changing my values.';

'>>7140964
nice';

'>>7140964
Good shit, anon';

'>Watch videos on simplifying the ribcage
>Struggle to apply what I'm learning to paper
>mfw the random 15 second rough sketch I do in the corner of the page out of boredom helps me understand it completely';

'>>7140964
Very nice. To nitpick, he's a bit more pale and pinker in the reference.
Since the value, hue and saturation are all interlinked, you will have to mess with the values when you color it.

Christophe Young has some good tips on grayscale to color.
https://youtu.be/8U_h3fw7VRc?t=3555';

'>>7140972
U leveled up';

'>>7140988
thanks, I'll give it a try on my next study';

'Lil bit more work on the still life';

'>>7140988
Thank you for introducing me to this dude, it looks perfect for helping my values and rendering look less like butt';

'What do I need to improve on for next time?';

'>>7140057';

'>>7141026
"Why are we still here.. just to suffer?" -Shaymin';

'>>7140655
This goes so hard';

'>>7140814
Would but I'm busy. My bad for insulting your boss I'm sorry
>>7140832
Sorry for triggering you anon';

'>>7140972
This is why breaks are important';

'My main problem with watercolor is picking colors that match the value and are appealing for shadows, for example. Like, if I’m painting something white or white furred, that one in particular is a struggle. I like using purples and blues and pinks but it never quite feels right.

The painting I’m working up to now, the primary subject is a warm chocolate brown, but how should I shade is the question without just using a darker brown? My color theory is weak, but the intersection between color theory and watercolor is another level of difficulty I don’t know where to look to learn.';

'Best android app to do a little fuckin around with on the side? CSP apparently has some 30hr/month trial but maybe I can do better';

'>the secret is to actually put in countless hours and going slowly and being extremely scrutinous and exigent
why didn't you tell me you faggoids';

'>>7140592
you could use a little more harder brush, in the, opacity, flow, whatever, i think should help you to have more refined things and work faster in the design of the image. If not you could just give it more time, from that starting to refine with a smaller brush some shapes, just a little while you feel comfortable

>>7140632
you could be be even more simple in the shapes also, i feel like you segment too much and that's break a little the dinamism of the figures, as you say, define less those muscles and the body will look more appealing, but little by little until you get the right amount and still making muscle girls if that's what you like.';

'>>7140766
I just had to
:D';

'>>7140790
hatching techniques bro, look for that, you have creativity so is time to build the muscles to power up.';

'Head too big? (Also i think spear a bit too thin)';

'What should i draw rn?';

'>>7141109
booba';

'>>7139539
Tried pencils again. It feels nice, but scanning seems fucky; Too bright and darkening it screws with quality.';

'>>7141079
Change that for a crab and we have the next op pic';

'>>7141112
Why do i always get this suggestion?
Booba is way too fucking hard dude. Besides. i'm gay as fuck so it's not an engaging subject';

'undefined';

'>>7141078
yeah thanks, i think i need to get into the gestures more';

'>>7141097
his armor is made of monster energy cans

currently 6 and a little heads tall, a manly man would be more in the 7 and a half to 8 heads tall range';

'>>7141150
Yeah, as i said, head too big?
Also are the scale armor problem the size or color?';

'need a cutie to draw';

'>>7141180
look at the mirror';

'>>7140057
brootal';

'>>7141083
I never used a smudge stick so i thought i’d give it a try, i’m with you though i need to get better at hatching';

'Sorry, this is probably not the right place to ask this, but I couldn't find a better thread here. Are there any more boards besides /aco/, /d/ and /e/ that have color/edit threads?
Those wells are temporarily dry and I'm thirsty for art assignments. (I'm aware of /trash/, but I don't like furry, so)
I'm a bit picky on what I like to color or edit, so having more options available would be great. And someone actually wanting it done motivates me, so "just grab some random b/w, etc" is not really helpful.
Sorry again, thanks!';

'>>7139539
An anon said I should use reference images of actual people instead of 2000s 3D videogame characters. So here's my transition to doing so.

Proportions are off, but I might attempt this same reference later.';

'Need a break, but things are starting to come together';

'I did an oopsie. I thought like "this is social media so its a waste of time, i shoudlnt be posting art online to strangers", then I realized this website was totally successful in keeping me motivated to make and share art. Never leaving again, its sucks to return after being a nodraw.';

'>>7141243';

'I honestly feel like Chris Chan mogs my art
Am I fucking retarded or does he have a somewhat solid grasp on the fundamentals';

'>>7141281
Could be if you're just starting. Being able to see what's wrong and start making little, if incomplete, fixes and adjustments and eventually you'll pass him.';

'>>7141306
I mean I started to do it daily like last month, like 30 minutes to an hour a day but I still feel like I got no idea what I'm doing, I watch some tutorials but I'm not sure if it's going anywhere';

'>>7141311
pyw';

'>>7141246
i have zero followers so there is no one who can call me nodraw';

'is adding contour lines a waste of time?';

'>>7141352
If you do them like this yes, way too many, a few are enough';

'>>7141372
yeah I guess the legs especially weren't all that useful';

'I understand that some brushes can mask shitty lines so i want to try and avoid that.
Anons often mention hard round brushes but i am retarded and need more details than that. Are they pressure sensitive for stuff like size and opacity? Would i use the same brush for skecthing and lineart? Clip Studio Paint specific advice is very welcome.';

'>>7141076
Uh, they did. Just draw (with purpose). The latter half is implied because everybody should know that they won't improve if all they do is draw irrelevant chaff';

'Is it possible to actually start at level 1 nobody and become good.
How long does it take? And most importantly, can it actually be done?';

'>>7141464
obviously it can be done but it's years of hard work';

'>>7141464
Everybody starts at level 1, what are you talking about.
>How long does it take?
Depends on your iq';

'>>7141469
>Everybody starts at level 1
Lol. Lmao.';

'>>7141469
>your iq
114';

'>>7141472
>>7141473
Sorry, didn't know you're retarded. Carry on.';

'>>7141476
I'm not >>7141472

I didn't know 114 is low, though.
Isn't the average literally 100?';

'I really want to learn how to draw.
Do you guys think i'll be able to do it if i start today and keep going at it daily?
What should i focus on first?';

'I copied one face and all I learned was how to draw semi decent ears';

'>>7141052
>Lucius
you have to be 18 to post here';

'Should i draw for 8 hours tomorrow? I could do it.';

'>>7141525
>you learned something
then progress was made.
it takes time to build up any skill, anon.
keep going!';

'>>7140735
Look at the position of her feet. Her right leg is positioned directly under her left thigh. It looks a little strange, like she might fall over';

'>>7141992
Meant to reply to
>>7140697';

'>>7141992
Wait actually nvm I can't tell if it's correct or not I'm too beg 4 this it's joever';

'>>7141525
draw more, faster and smaller, your goal is to catch the main forms and remember how human's body silhouette looks';

'I've been thinking about drawing again.
Should i?';

'>>7142251
the answer is always yes';

'>>7142337
Alright, i'll draw today. Fairly soon, too.

Got any requests regarding the topic? I'll go through the /beg/ books ofc, but i'd like to start off with something a bit more spontaneous.

Full disclosure though, i suck ass at this';

'>>7142359
Try combining two objects you have around you';

'>>7142371
I've got a cat and a banana. Although both of these are living beings.';

'>>7142376
make a banana cat then! or a cat banana';

'>>7142378
I'm trying to figure out how would that even look.............
My skills are at the level where even drawing a cat itself would be pretty tough, but i've already commited so.';

'>>7142383
It doesn't have to be amazing or anything
the goal is to just make a drawing
have fun with it. you can always draw it again when you improve your skills';

'>>7141417
Bump';

'>>7142376
I'll draw a banana cat if you will';

'>>7142413
Can you draw a banana phone?
A cellular, bananular phone?';

'What book should i work with in order to be able to draw funky jojo-esuqe poses?';

'>>7140669
cleaned up the line art';