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String date = '05/01/24(Wed)10:16:52';
String comment = 'Figure drawing is a fun and good way to get better at drawing humans.

Some free resources

https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://www.quickposes.com/en
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en
https://quickposes.com/en/gestures/random
https://www.characterdesigns.com/non-nude-photo-index
https://www.lovelifedrawing.com/tutorials/
https://app.posemy.art/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/hands-feet-practice
https://www.rkgk.org/

Might as well check archives and active /ic/ threads for references.

https://warosu.org/ic/thread/7019067#p7019080
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/2015637
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/6864584
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/2023233
https://4chanarchives.com/board/ic/thread/2015637

Previous >>7082485'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7152530 && dateTime=='05/01/24(Wed)11:31:21') {

'>>7152096

That's kinda my point. As a total beginner, whenever I try to draw *anything* figure related including gestures, I just hate it and I get discouraged and don't want to draw. I'm doing Draw A Box right now, but goddamn that shit is boring.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7152534 && dateTime=='05/01/24(Wed)11:32:41') {

'>>7152421
OP is a figure'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7152536 && dateTime=='05/01/24(Wed)11:33:13') {

'>>7152530
And part of the program is to "draw just to draw," and when I'm drawing outside of DAB, I don't know *what* to draw. What do, master bros?'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7152550 && dateTime=='05/01/24(Wed)11:43:55') {

'>>7152536
Draw whatever interests you, if it's figures, draw figures. Don't fall into the trap of
>I won't draw it because it doesn't look good.
If you do that, you'll never be able to draw anything, everyone sucks at drawing in the beginning. Yes, you will stink at it, but you'll get better.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7152562 && dateTime=='05/01/24(Wed)12:10:27'  && image=='05-01-24.jpg') {

'>>7152550
Damn /fig/ bros it's been forever since I've drawn anything. New project at work had me exhausted, but I want to get back to my dailies.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7152594 && dateTime=='05/01/24(Wed)12:46:19') {

'>>7152562
Welcome back bro'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7152605 && dateTime=='05/01/24(Wed)12:53:12'  && image=='43.jpg') {

'>>7152421
https://youtu.be/38jpIyCI2Tw'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7152608 && dateTime=='05/01/24(Wed)12:55:36') {

'>>7152562
This is great'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7152659 && dateTime=='05/01/24(Wed)13:45:56') {

'Still very beg, so kinda wondering what I'm supposed to "get" from the different lengths of figure/gesture drawing. So far, 30 secs to 1 min seems almost entirely just a physical warmup exercise, also a way to practice some quick observation. Then 2-5 mins I find is to build on that quicker gesture with a bit more detail, starting to express the forms of the body like limbs or segments. And 5-10 (I haven't gone longer yet) seems like then adding more anatomical detail like specific muscles or other details of the figure (hair, facial features, penis or breasts).';

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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7152792 && dateTime=='05/01/24(Wed)15:54:12'  && image=='1714592770961.jpg') {

'I've been enjoying just copying stuff from various anatomy resources. I realize that this is not figure drawing in a sense, but I find it fascinating.

I have Morpho Anatomy for kind of big picture or overview stuff, I have an android app "Human Anatomy Atlas" to spin things around in 3D and I have the photographic atlas from Rohen-Yokochi-Drecoll. I recommend all three of these if any of you are interested in the depths of the human body.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7153723 && dateTime=='05/02/24(Thu)11:44:42') {

'Does someone has all the images from ryan woodwards book gesture drawing vol3?';

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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7154521 && dateTime=='05/03/24(Fri)06:45:53'  && image=='2024-05-03 01.jpg') {

'today's session

>>7152479
thanks

>>7152659
Kenzo explained the concept well in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH6E_n51-BQ'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7154582 && dateTime=='05/03/24(Fri)09:08:04'  && image=='1706513960063966.png') {

'>>7152605
>>7152562
Good to see you again.
>>7152792
You kind of do need to understand anatomy to draw good figures.
>>7152659
Fast gestures are meant to capture the essence of a figure.
>>7154521
Breddy nice'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7154614 && dateTime=='05/03/24(Fri)09:57:57'  && image=='image.jpg') {

'>>7152530
>As a total beginner, whenever I try to draw *anything* figure related including gestures, I just hate it and I get discouraged and don't want to draw.
I think almost everyone can relate to it, it's probably easier to be a beginner in a group with a teacher or having a strong character that helps you accept that sucking is part of getting better.
Not being discouraged by the things you do is already a good challenge.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7154774 && dateTime=='05/03/24(Fri)13:43:45'  && image=='03 05 f 1.png') {

'Keep watch and pray, so þæt thou sceal not give in to temptation not to draw faces when practising figures';

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if(sage && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7154908 && dateTime=='05/03/24(Fri)16:14:37'  && image=='figureSketch_08.jpg') {

'Sorry for crosspost. From the other day.

>>7154774
These are great, nice anatomy.

>>7154614
I like how you break down forms. Need to learn your ways.

>>7152605
Super clean as always. Way to be consistent. How many of these have you done?'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7154932 && dateTime=='05/03/24(Fri)16:31:03') {

'>>7154908
That's awesome'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7154949 && dateTime=='05/03/24(Fri)16:42:19'  && image=='image.jpg') {

'For whatever reason, using a big, messy brush to copy Bridgman makes it less stressful and a bit fun, I guess because I can't concentrate on small details that I can't describe anyway.
Although it does feel like cheating. I'm not sure if that's a good thing in the long run, but for now, when I don't know much anatomy and can't describe it, I think I'll stick with it for a while.

>>7154774
That's gorgeous, friend.

>>7154908
Thank you so much, but I don't think there's anything to learn from me.
On the other hand, that's a very lovely style you have here, it reminds me of late 2D Disney.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7155880 && dateTime=='05/04/24(Sat)15:52:46'  && image=='1698200475279043.png') {

'>>7154614
>>7154949
Nice grindan
>>7154774
Very lovely
>>7154908
Reminds me of good western cartoons, pretty cool.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7157025 && dateTime=='05/05/24(Sun)16:42:55') {

'I hope it's just an average beginner's frustration that will pass with time and experience, because at the moment it feels like the best I can do is study\copy Bridgman\Hampton's drawings, but when I try to make my own gestures I get lost in the details and end up with some random lines or wobbly contours that say this is a body and this is not.
It feels like 95% of drawing is done in your head.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7157028 && dateTime=='05/05/24(Sun)16:43:55'  && image=='image.jpg') {

'>>7157025
Forgot something.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7157063 && dateTime=='05/05/24(Sun)17:05:24'  && image=='1714942943686.jpg') {

'I have enlarged her bottom half too much, and her pose has become more upright than in the reference (so I basically blundered the gesture)

I don't feel like I've done her justice'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7157075 && dateTime=='05/05/24(Sun)17:14:24') {

'>>7157025
Have you tried studying other teachers? For example Vilppu and Huston click with me more. Maybe Bridgman and Hampton's approaches are not for you.
>>7157063
Creepy smile'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7158094 && dateTime=='05/06/24(Mon)12:45:33'  && image=='Screenshot 2024-05-06 104403.png') {

'Haven't been here en a while but here's last week, I think most are 5min but some are less';

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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7158397 && dateTime=='05/06/24(Mon)17:48:41'  && image=='Image.jpg') {

'Figure drawing is so frustrating, I take a beautiful human body, which is beautiful most of the time, and I put some "effort" and time into it, only to turn it into pure shit. Oh boy, it's disheartening.
And even though Hampton says not to draw counters, I just can't, but I do try.

>>7157075
>Have you tried studying other teachers?
I've watched an old Gumroad course by Finch and a lecture by Huston, but I've decided to stick with Hampton and Bridgman for now, just because. I understand that there are bad teachers and bad material, but in my case I think it's me for sucking and blaming the material is a slippery slope. As for Vilppu, I think Hampton said that his book is mostly based on his studies of Vilppu, so it's kind of the same.
I just hope that in a year or so I will improve and not develop bad habits.
Also, Huston has a book?

>>7158094
Great figures, mate.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7159007 && dateTime=='05/07/24(Tue)07:30:36') {

'>>7158397
>counters
you mean contors'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7159028 && dateTime=='05/07/24(Tue)08:18:12') {

'>>7159007
embarassing'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7159556 && dateTime=='05/07/24(Tue)16:21:54') {

'>>7158094
Where are your gestures? Are you just drawing figs without them or what?'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7159595 && dateTime=='05/07/24(Tue)17:23:07') {

'>>7159556
can you explain your questions? Not sure I get what you're asking'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7159600 && dateTime=='05/07/24(Tue)17:36:15') {

'figure drawing class cancelled because the model is on the rag again';

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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7159661 && dateTime=='05/07/24(Tue)18:47:25') {

'>>7159600
They should just tell people to bring a red pencil, no need to cancel.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7159683 && dateTime=='05/07/24(Tue)19:10:53'  && image=='Image.jpg') {

'>>7159007
>>7159028
I can't live with this kind of shame, I'm off to complete sudoku.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7160607 && dateTime=='05/08/24(Wed)17:27:02'  && image=='IMG_0050.png') {

'Why do I be sucking so much shit?';

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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7161014 && dateTime=='05/08/24(Wed)23:17:42') {

'>>7160607
Use references, study good teachers, draw more.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7161756 && dateTime=='05/09/24(Thu)15:22:49'  && image=='file.png') {

'>>7152421
some trash from imagination'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7162564 && dateTime=='05/10/24(Fri)10:41:06'  && image=='1715350678713.jpg') {

'I keep trying to use this 8B pencil I was gifted but I really don't enjoy it.

Also I don't enjoy shading with a pencil, so I would appreciate any tips you guys have on the best way to indicate values with the least effort. I like painting more (and charcoal as well), but I have this weird urge to use this pencil even though I don't like it.

Do you guys stick to a medium that works or do you mix it up?'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7163263 && dateTime=='05/11/24(Sat)03:53:26') {

'>>7162564
Charcoal is the best for trad shading in dry medium, methinks'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7163497 && dateTime=='05/11/24(Sat)11:54:32'  && image=='1696778751370856.png') {

'undefined';

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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7165822 && dateTime=='05/13/24(Mon)12:29:46') {

'>>7154908
>>7154774
fun styles'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7165902 && dateTime=='05/13/24(Mon)14:02:23'  && image=='Image.jpg') {

'Meh.';

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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7166215 && dateTime=='05/13/24(Mon)18:29:36'  && image=='Image.jpg') {

'It's late, so here's a very gestural and super artistic big red stickman in the top left corner to cover for me.

On side note, gestures are weird thing when you suck, like I do. Simple and yet I do not understand them at all.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7166255 && dateTime=='05/13/24(Mon)18:58:27') {

'>>7165902
>>7166215
Very nice, anon.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7166421 && dateTime=='05/13/24(Mon)21:37:58') {

'>>7166215
>like I do
If this is sucking them I'm sorry for even picking a pencil.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7166925 && dateTime=='05/14/24(Tue)12:04:59'  && image=='0512241241.png') { }

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7167829 && dateTime=='05/15/24(Wed)11:22:32'  && image=='44.jpg') {

'>>7152421
https://youtu.be/NUPPqxZ4FLs'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7168005 && dateTime=='05/15/24(Wed)14:20:44'  && image=='05152024.jpg') {

'>>7152562
ahh, feels good to draw.

>>7152605
>>7167829
very comfy vids
>>7152792
it's good to draw what you enjoy
>>7154521
nice job, I like your color studies.
>>7154582
>>7154614
>>7154949
>>7157028
>>7158397
>>7159683
>>7163497
>>7165902
>>7166215
great job filling up them pages anons, milage is important.
>>7154774
very nice, you can really sense the muscle structures.
>>7154908
great stylization
>>7155880
lookin good
>>7157063
keep it up. proportions are tough to get right.
>>7158094
oh looks like actual life drawing class? very cool.
>>7160607
draw alot, and don't neglect the fundies. keep it up.
>>7161756
that color combo hurts my brain. The middle guy is the only one that needs a redo.
>>7162564
I did a quick count, and I have about 11 pens/pencils that I'll switch off using depending on how I feel.
I don't do a ton of shading, but I try to just block out the values with different amounts of pressure/passes. I'm usually using something like an HB or 2B.
>>7166925
nice focused study.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7168130 && dateTime=='05/15/24(Wed)17:10:17') {

'Hey nerds, fa/tg/uy here. My wife and I have been asked to sit as figure models for a sketch class, but I don't know what to where or how to pose. My wife has done it a couple times, but I could use a point in the right direction. I don't into art.

If it helps, I'm 6'5", 250, usually wearing XLT black vnecks and chinos.

My wife is 5'5", 110, usually wearing very modest teacher clothes or athleisure wear.

As a note, fully clothed.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7168198 && dateTime=='05/15/24(Wed)18:19:24'  && image=='IMG_0996.png') {

'anyone know a free video course I can take? I have basic understanding but am still a total noob. Looking for something that lays out all the steps I should take in order, whatever has worked for you';

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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7168216 && dateTime=='05/15/24(Wed)18:45:33') {

'>>7168198
>anyone know a free video course I can take?
Internet has tons of free video courses if you know where to look, but in general figure drawing is a very hard subject especially for a beginner, but you can look for Hampton's course on figure drawing or his book they are pretty much the same, or Will Weston courses and book, Glenn Vilppu also has a great book and tons of courses he has made over the last 70ish years and there is also Steve Huston with his courses. There are many more, but these are the people that are generally recommended.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7168240 && dateTime=='05/15/24(Wed)19:20:02'  && image=='file.png') {

'>>7168216
yeah I'm strongly considering just buying Hampton's video course on proko since no anon here has ever uploaded it yet, definitely seems the most noob friendly'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7168455 && dateTime=='05/15/24(Wed)23:51:52') {

'>>7168240
do it! please be our savior anon and deliver us the goods'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7168817 && dateTime=='05/16/24(Thu)09:41:37'  && image=='0514241706.png') {

'undefined';

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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7168818 && dateTime=='05/16/24(Thu)09:45:15') {

'>>7168817
nice work, what are you studying from?

Also what tools are you using?'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7169008 && dateTime=='05/16/24(Thu)13:16:12'  && image=='file.png') {

'>>7168818
im studying photo reference using Steve Huston's teachings. the tools are photoshop and this brush pack, https://www.artstation.com/a/32659186, pic is the 2 brushes im using from the pack.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7169828 && dateTime=='05/17/24(Fri)08:19:36'  && image=='figur thread.png') {

'undefined';

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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7170041 && dateTime=='05/17/24(Fri)12:53:56'  && image=='Image.jpg') {

'I'm still waiting for that divine insight into gesture drawing that is bound to dawn on me soon, a year at the most, maybe two.
Meanwhile I'm getting closer to the heads in Bridgman's book, no idea how to approach them.

>>7166421
I don't know, Anon, there are some very nice gestures\sketches in this thread, and at best I'm just getting the proportions "right". I'm not in a hurry, it's a complicated subject, but it would be nice to see some changes on my part.

>>7166255
Thank you.

>>7166925
>>7168817
You remind me of a professional artist I saw somewhere online, not sure who.

>>7169828
Nice lines.'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7170048 && dateTime=='05/17/24(Fri)13:02:05') {

'>>7168240
yooo'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7170138 && dateTime=='05/17/24(Fri)14:32:55') {

'>>7169008
The "Constructive figure drawing" course ?'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7170158 && dateTime=='05/17/24(Fri)15:11:11'  && image=='file.png') {

'>>7170138
yes, plus using his patreon videos supplementary'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7170862 && dateTime=='05/18/24(Sat)08:36:49'  && image=='96794214.jpg') {

'Beg here, why have I not seen anybody on /ic/ ever mention Richard Smitheman b4? I've tried a bunch of different approaches to get my figure drawing to be competent but his method was by far the most informative to capture both gesture + anatomy.

I do think you have to learn some of the fundamentals else where but once I felt ready for figures, his livestreams did wonders'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7170919 && dateTime=='05/18/24(Sat)10:34:11'  && image=='fig thread 2.png') {

'I should do more gestures/ short figures
Seeing some really nice figures here in pencil, am I punishing myself with pen at the cost of being more dynamic?
Maybe I just need to get bigger balls.

>>7170041
thankyou, I like how you iterate most of them, looks pretty effective'
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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7170940 && dateTime=='05/18/24(Sat)10:53:48'  && image=='Screenshot 2024-05-18 084939.png') {

'1m to 15m. I'm being able to do so much with the time that I think my next step is thinking of finding the most attractive sections of figures and doing more work in them, proportions are sliightly off but shouldn't be too hard to correct';

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if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7171058 && dateTime=='05/18/24(Sat)13:24:49'  && image=='05182024.jpg') {

'>>7168005
doodlin' while watching the 5th element, tough to draw on the couch. Went back today and filled in some blank spaces.

>>7168198
I never really took a course, kinda just cobbled together different lessons from all over the palce. Proko, Hide, Hampton, randoyoutuber69420, sinix, etc. looks like you're going with hampton, let us know how it goes!
>>7168817
nice studies
>>7169828
lookin' good!
>>7170041
these are good sessions, maybe take a little time after each one, and do some takeaways. like, "I learned this today"
>>7170862
never heard of Smitheman, I'll take a look. thanks for sharing.
>>7170919
I like some of those faces! I use all kinds of pens/pencils. Don't give yourself arbitrary rules on what you have to use.
>>7170940
well done. all the elements are coming together nicely.'
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