'I’m surprised more people weren’t sissy hypno’d by this movie';

'I made brief eye contact with mila kunis at a somewhat nice restaurant once';

'>>35446714
I love the episode of That 70s Show when she dresses Kelso up like a woman and her dad barges in';

'>>35445581
Did it stunt your growth? As in, are you noticeably shorter or smaller framed than your nearest male relatives?';

'>>35445581
My gf has food issues, I fully support her as long as she remains thin.';

'>>35448199
Honestly yeah, it definitely did stunt my growth. I don’t really have any male relatives to compare with but I have a very small frame. A lot of women have broader shoulders than me. I’m only 5’7 too.

I know this might sound fucked up but I’m actually quite happy with how my body turned out.';

'>>35448453
>only 5’7
lol';

'>>35445581
It's pretty funny looking back how I would imprint way too much on shit like this, and have to be continually reminded "uh, no one cares about that when you're a guy...you know that, right?"
I was such a little retard that looking at fit women made me want a flat tummy, too bad I'm aging as a man regardless lmao';

'>>35448453
It's not fucked up at all. I went to the hospital at 15 from not eating correctly and taking care of myself and I have a very light bone structure compared to male relatives. It was a blessing in disguise. Sad that eating disorders are one of the few reliable ways for us to be happy later in life. I'll also caution you that if you are on HRT you should try to focus on your health and overcome your eating disorder.';

'>>35448486
Yeah I definitely know what you mean. I was actually very open about the fact that I wanted to look like a skinny girl. It disturbed a lot of adults but girls at my school were actually really supportive about it. And boys had a hard time bullying me about it since I made it clear that I was skinny on purpose.';

'>>35448658
lol i used to kind of "joke around" saying shit like
>idk i don't really care about getting a true six pack, i'd be ok with just girl abs
i don't think anyone found it that funny';

'>>35448593
>I went to the hospital at 15 from not eating correctly

Nothing like that happened with me, but my mom did make me go to a nutritionist to talk some sense into me. We ended up making a compromise that I had to eat a ton of fruits and vegetables and drink a protein shake every day. I think she actually handled it very well.

I’m not trans, but I also won’t pretend that I didn’t have pretty intense gender dysphoria growing up. My older sister was skinny too and I got a huge thrill out of being able to fit into her dresses.';

'>>35445581
it was this bitch for me. oh waow lovelyy';

'>>35448693
Haha my go-to response when people gave me shit for being so skinny was that I wanted to be a size 0. They would be so confused because they couldn’t tell if I was being serious.';

'>>35448658
it is really upsetting that having an ED is a good way to stunt growth, cause the amount of damage it causes the body in the long run is insane. still recovering from mine.
>>35448765
do you mind sharing a bit more about this? how did you experience gender dysphoria growing up and then just stop?';

'>>35448962
first response was meant for >>35448593
sorry about confusion i am eepy';

'>dies at 26 from heart failure';

'>>35448962
I don’t mind sharing, I know my story is pretty unusual. I’m curious to find out if any other people here can relate. I’ll go through my whole childhood/adolescence in a separate post';

'>>35448818
same i absolutely love skins. effy as well in gen2';

'>>35449816
OK here’s the story. Sorry it’s long but I have nothing better to do tonight

>Grew up with mom and sister who is 7 years older (we have different dads- long story but neither were around)
>Acted feminine from a young age
>Played with Barbies, liked princess stuff, was only friends with girls, etc
>Cool aunt moved in with us when I was 5 while she went to grad school
>Spent a lot of time with her, she’d take me on errands and pick me up from school
>My GNC behavior increases, complain about having to wear boy’s clothes, tell aunt that I wished I was a girl
>Aunt tells mom, she gets worried and smartly decides it’s best not to repress it
>Mom explains that I can’t wear girl’s clothes to school (it was a private school with uniforms) but I can dress however I like at home
>Aunt and sister say they’ll start playing dress up with me which makes me SO happy
>Aunt gets me a bunch of princess costumes and I wear them constantly
>Gradually start wearing “regular” girls clothes around the house too
>Mom lets me grow my hair out to shoulders
>Aunt moves out a couple years later, sister starts high school so has less time for me but still paints my nails and puts makeup on me when I ask
>Continue dressing somewhat femme until I’m 9 and then eventually stop (mostly because I didn’t want to keep asking my mom to buy me girl’s clothes) keep my hair long though and my sister and her friends occasionally give me makeovers which I loved
>Would still get insanely jealous whenever my sister would get dressed up for dances and whatnot which she definitely noticed
>Start trying to repress my feminine behavior at school to fit in better which was basically impossible

CONT';

'>>35450456
>Become withdrawn and isolated, am friendly with girls but don’t really hang out with them outside school
>Fast forward to when I’m 11 and watch Black Swan with my sister one night
>Am transfixed with the ballerinas, it unlocks something in me and I decide that I’m going to start making changes and become exactly the person I want to be
>Have always been “boy skinny” but that’s not good enough. I want to look like a ballerina and I need to start NOW
>Begin a routine of eating one granola bar in the morning, skipping lunch, then as little as possible at dinner
>Run on treadmill every day after school
>Mom starts noticing that I’m quickly losing weight but doesn’t make a big deal out of it
>Sister instantly knows what I’m doing but she’s borderline anorexic too so doesn’t judge
>Spend every night looking at pictures of models and ballerinas for thinspo
>About a month passes, no scale in the house so don’t know how much weight I’ve lost but it’s a lot
>Decide to try on one of my sister’s dresses to see how I look
>Go in her closet and pick out the tightest, skimpiest dress she has
>It fits perfectly, I am ecstatic
>My stomach is so flat and my legs look amazing
>Put on a pair of heels (my first time ever)
>Can’t stop staring at myself in the mirror
>Next day I tell my sister I wore her dress (she doesn’t mind), ask if she can do my makeup next time and show me how to walk in heels
>Few days later she gives me a full makeover and I try on a bunch of her dresses, she teaches me how to walk and dance in heels
>Really cute bonding moment
>I keep up with the anorexia over the next few months, eventually mom makes me go to a doctor
>I’m defiant but agree to go about it healthier

CONT';

'>>35451108
>Sister leaves for college, I continue crossdressing a few times a week, get pretty good at makeup
>Become way more confident at school, stop restricting my feminine behavior, become good friends with a group of girls
>Eventually open up about my crossdressing with them, they think it’s cool and we start doing each other’s makeup and dress up together for fun
>Never officially come out as gay because everyone knows already
>Start high school, am openly gay and wear makeup to school, girl’s jeans, etc
>Rarely wear skirts or dresses unless one of my friends asks me to (outside of school)
>Am comfortable and confident as a feminine gay male
>Still anorexic to this day

Again, sorry it’s so long but once I started typing I couldn’t stop. Would love to know if anyone has similar experiences';

'>>35445581
Perfect Blue is better';

'>>35451125
But does it have pretty ballerinas for feminine gay boys to use as role models?';

'>>35449034
Honestly people dying from anorexia is very rare. That was really overblown by the media back in the day. Otherwise you’d constantly be hearing about models dying. You can be anorexic and still relatively healthy.';

'>>35448818
Do you have any regrets about the anorexia or are you happy how things turned out?';

'Late night bump because I spent an hour typing my life story on 4chan and don’t want to feel like a boyfriendless loser wasting my time';

'>>35451676
thank you for sharing anon (sorry i fell asleep). i can’t say i relate much to your story. i lost weight with the explicit purpose of looking more feminine (though i wouldn’t realize until later). i don’t quite know if you experienced gender dysphoria, seems more like you wanted to look like someone who happened to be a woman but only you can know for sure. i hope you can pursue a happy, healthy life.';

'>>35448199
>>35448453
I starved during puberty due to neglect and working too much and my growth was stunted in comparison to the men in my family. all of the men are like 6'5" gorillas and i'm 5'11" skinny... still a giant but not colossal like i would have been';

'>>35453102
oh and it's funny/sad cuz i know my uncle is a repper (snooped thru his computer once as a teen) but yea he's a huge monster man';

'Did you mean throwing up food?';

'>>35448658
Sounds fake. You could be severely underweight as a guy and no one cares like they do about females. And your bullies and adults just focused on your weight? Not on you being feminine/trans? I don't believe you';

'>>35453113
What did you find? Sissfication porn?';

'>>35453282
>You could be severely underweight as a guy and no one cares like they do about females.
What are you talking about? Girls can get away with being skinny way easier than guys can. They’re expected to be thin';

'>>35453550
No way, there's way more skinny guys than girls esp in HS. I was thinner than the so called "girls with eating disorders"';

'>>35453635
I think this just depends on the area you grow up. Traditionally though it’s always been more socially acceptable for girls to be skinny than boys';

'>>35453660
Ig this is more of a zoomer thing but it's a well documented phenomenon that girls are going through puberty earlier than ever and you'll often see in high schools girls who look like women and boys who still look like gangly teens';

'>>35453113
>oh and it's funny/sad cuz i know my uncle is a repper (snooped thru his computer once as a teen) but yea he's a huge monster man
Give more details';

'>>35453783
Puberty/growth spurts are a totally different thing than being skinny or fat though';

'>>35451621
sorry, just woke up. fuck anorexia for leading me to /fa/ thinspo threads and this shithole as a result. otherwise, i still want to kms a decade later, but i've found more interesting ways of slow suicide like trooning and riding my motorcycle recklessly. "normal" 18.5 bmi now and i don't field comments from retarded strangers or family about my body because girly faggots are supposed to be sticks.';

'>>35453081
You’re welcome, it was nice typing all that out.
>seems more like you wanted to look like someone who happened to be a woman
Yes you’re right, and I guess a lot of people wouldn’t consider that true gender dysphoria. My mom recognized this when I was a kid. There were times when she wondered about my gender identity, especially when I started crossdressing again at 11. But we figured it out, and that’s why she was careful to somewhat “tolerate” my anorexia since it clearly made me a happier and more content person';

'>>35453282
The boys in my grade had almost entirely stopped making fun of me for being feminine by then. This was a private K-8th school with only about 80 kids per grade and homophobic bullying was really not tolerated. They would mostly make snide comments about my physique during gym class because I was frail and weak. It didn’t hurt my feelings though because I WANTED to be frail and weak. So I told them that';

'>>35453832
Yea but there's definitely a correlation, more developed looks bigger. These days there's 12yr old girls who look 16 and 15yr olds that look 21. Have you seen some teens on ig? The boys always look way younger despite being in the same grade, it's weird';

'>>35445581
You're an idiot. Who never grew up.';

'>>35454089
looksmaxxing/starvemaxxing/psl communities on tiktok have good thinspo for males in specific if you were looking for more of that';

'>>35454582
How should I grow up? I’m very happy with the way I currently look. Should I start bulking up and be miserable? Being small and thin hasn’t negatively affected my life or relationships at all';

'>>35454554
Since when do teen boys listen to "what isn't tolerated"?
>>let's bully him, but remember no homophobia or transphobia that's going too far!
I'm sorry but this sounds too unnatural and the opposite of my experiences';

'>>35454859
I don’t think you understand that bullying really wasn’t that big of a thing at my school. Most of the kids were from liberal upper middle class families. You couldn’t really get away with serious bullying';

'>>35454904
Also you have to understand this is a private school. If teachers caught you bullying there’s a good chance your parents would get called. You could even get expelled if it was bad enough';

'>>35448453
gIwtwm';

'>>35453102
this terrifies me. i stunted my growth by anamaxxing through puberty and now i think my health has been permanently weakened. at least i’m shorter than i could have been…';

'>>35451118
despite this all you are ok with male development like a beard etc.?';

'>>35455205
Facial/body hair has never really been an issue for me, which I assume is because of the anorexia stunting my development during puberty. I don’t even think I’d be capable of growing a beard. That said, I always preemptively shave my face before any stubble can develop.

Admittedly just thinking about having visible facial hair is somewhat upsetting for me. I started shaving my arms and legs at 14, and now I mostly wax at home';

'>>35454859
Where did you grow up? There's nothing unbelievable about this. Stereotypical TV show style school bullying isn't that common anymore, especially in more liberal areas. Also overt homophobia is especially looked down upon';

'>>35451118
Thanks for sharing your story. What's your current relationship with women like? Would you say you're still primarily female socialized? Do you still crossdress at all? How would you say this has affected your dating/sex life? Sorry to ask so many questions, I just think this is fascinating';

'>>35456983

>What's your current relationship with women like? Would you say you're still primarily female socialized?
I usually get along great with women in their 20s and 30s. A lot of them around my age (I’m 24) can relate to me when I open up about my life. Older women usually treat me like a cute novelty or they seem to think I’m some type of tranny depending on how I’m dressed (I’ve been called “she” before). Outside of work I typically only interact with straight men if they’re dating one of my friends. I just don’t have much in common with them
>Do you still crossdress at all?
I wear women’s pants, shirts, sweaters, etc all the time mostly just because they fit me better and I like the style. In the winter I basically dress like a lesbian. I wear light makeup most days, typically just foundation and some lip color. I’ll sometimes do a full face (eyeshadow, mascara, etc) if it’s a special occasion. I like to wear t-shirt and sweater dresses while lounging around my apartment just because they’re comfy.
>How would you say this has affected your dating/sex life?
I don’t have much trouble attracting men but of course only a certain type of guy is going to be attracted to someone like me. I broke up with my last boyfriend a couple months ago. Don’t particularly like being single but also I have a pretty low sex drive so I feel OK at the moment. I’m not really into random hookups

Feel free to ask any more questions, I love talking about myself';

'>>35457745
Did you ever get to dress up like a ballerina?';

'>>35448453
Same I starved myself until I was on HRT. I had a super fool proof diet. Coffee with whole milk when the hunger pains were bad. For a meal just a single serving of 1 dish at dinner. I was 105 lbs and 5'6" when I started HRT at 18.';

'>>35458114
have you gotten better since? like has it effected your health in a noticeable way?';

'>>35458114
Did you get pushback from other people about your anorexia? How did you explain it? I'm really impressed that OP just straight up told everyone that he wanted a skinny girl body';

'>>35457984
Yes I did! My friend in 7th grade danced ballet so I got to wear one of her dresses that looks a lot like this. I felt so beautiful. It was honestly a somewhat emotional moment, as dumb as that may sound. My whole plan had come together';

'>>35458642
That's so cute. Makes sense that your adolescent awakening happened while watching a movie about ballerinas. It was a totally achievable body type for you at the time';

'>>35445581
ballerinas are jacked';

'>>35459319
They develop lean muscle from being so active but on average only weigh about 100 pounds, many of them are closer to 90. They also commonly don't get their periods due to eating so little';

'>>35455445
I mean is there a reason you aren't doing HRT and more? Seems to me like you'd be the type of person predestined for that and you don't even like being male?';

'>>35459686
Do you mean transition and start presenting/identifying as a woman full time? Or just start taking HRT for the aesthetic benefits? Because there are times when I’ve thought about how taking estrogen would be great for my skin and hair but those are really the only reasons I can think of. I don’t have any interest in developing breasts though.

I just can’t say that I “feel” like a woman. I’m a femme-leaning androgynous male. NGL sometimes I would like to fix up my hair, get all dolled up in a dress and heels and go out for the night. I have done that before but it’s been almost a year (the last time was right before I met my ex boyfriend). Maybe I’ll do it this summer when I see my sister, I know she would love that.';

'>>35460183
>I have done that before but it’s been almost a year
Have you done that a lot? Do you just go out by yourself or with other people? Also I'm curious if you've ever gotten dressed up for a guy you're dating before';

'>>35460183
well I just thought it would have helped you reach your desired body type much better than T ever did. It's weird to me how you starve yourself and do other stuff but hormones are seemingly too far despite you not liking any maleness anyway.
As for breasts, pretty sure there is medication that you can take that inhibits it's growth';

'>>35460601
>despite you not liking any maleness anyway
It’s hard to explain but I wouldn’t say that’s true. Yes I don’t into any typical mode of what a ‘male’ is but I’m okay being an anomaly. Part of me is proud of how I achieved my desired body without any medical intervention. I’ve never heard of this medication that can prevent breast growth while taking estrogen. Do you know what it’s called?';

'>>35461145
I'm glad ur happy with ur body. i love my tits though lol. wish i had friends to practice make up with lol.';

'>>35461145
well from what I heard it's called Raloxifene , although I don't know how good it is';

'>>35460314
>Have you done that a lot? Do you just go out by yourself or with other people?

I’ve gone out at night fully dressed and presenting as a woman about a dozen times while in my 20s (I turned 24 last month). I actually did it quite a lot as a teenager but that’s not really the same thing. I’ve never done it while alone, it’s always been with my female friends. The last time was actually one of the funnest nights of my life. My friend surprised me with a really cute black dress for my birthday and we went out dancing and got super drunk.

>Also I'm curious if you've ever gotten dressed up for a guy you're dating before

Yes I have, my very first boyfriend when I was 18 loved it when I dressed up for him. That’s actually the only time I’ve ever worn lingerie was when we were together. We broke up right after Covid hit and apparently he’s dating a woman now';

'>>35461299
I’ll look into it. I’m open-minded and won’t say it will never happen';

'>>35461256
Thank you. And yeah I set out to have a ballerina body and managed to pull it off, which also means being flat-chested';

'>>35455716
In a very average suburb in the midwest. What is "tv show" style bullying, like getting beat up after school? Maybe not but that's because it became more sneaky, like a lot of little incidents that can't be so easily proven to the staff.
>>overt homophobia is especially looked down upon
You're living in delulu land if you think that stops bullies, the whole point of bullying is to be as offensive as possible to the victim. My school made the local news a few years ago for a bullying incident targeting lgbt students.';

'>>35454805
You watched an R rated movie as a kid. It fucked up your perception of things, unsurprisingly, because kids are stupid and you made a stupid decision based on watching a movie you shouldn't have been watching. I'm sure your parents had a lot to do with you molding yourself to align with a fantasy story of make-believe characters, meaning they didn't do much.
Being anorexic is unhealthy and you are setting yourself up for nothing but problems.';

'>>35454554
Ah, I thought you were a real person, but it seems you're just a masochist who wants people to criticize and make fun of his sorry condition. There's a lot of that here on 4chan. Tell me, do you also go into the porn threads and say things like "i'll never know what it's like to fuck someone with a beautiful big cock, because my peepee is so small, oh woe is me!"';

'>>35460183
thank you anon for not falling into the HRT mode of thinking. you are perfect how you are. a feminine male. thats been who i am attracted to my whole life. and so many such people now fall into the 'im trans' trap when they're really just feminine males.';

'>>35462977
I think the biggest difference here is the OP went to a rich kid private school in a liberal area and you (presumably) went to public school in a conservative area. Of course your experiences with bullying and homophobia are going to be different';

'>>35457745
You have interacted with nothing but straight men, in the form of your bfs. Only straight/bi men are attarcted to someone who looks, dresses and acts like a woman. That's why as you said your exes are dating cis females now';

'>>35466356
I’d agree the men who are attracted to me tend to be bisexual-leaning. My last BF is definitely 100 percent gay though, he just likes androgynous looking twinks. He’s 29 and says he’s never slept with a woman before. The main reason I haven’t gone out fully presenting as a woman (full makeup, dress, heels, etc) in almost a year is because I didn’t think he would be into it.';

'>>35466847
Just so you know the most common guys you're attracting are chasers. Some chasers only want giga passoid trans stacies but some like myself have a transformation fetish and love seeing cis twinks transform into the perfect woman. For us the transformation process is more erotic than the result.';

'>>35467785
Yeah I won’t deny that the times random men have most aggressively hit on me is when I’ve gone out fully dressed like a woman. At gay clubs especially a lot of men will try to bring me home. In those situations I do put a lot of effort into my appearance when I dress up and I love the attention. Thing is I’m just not that into random hookups so I admit that I can be a total cocktease. But if a guy I’m dating preferred if I ramped up the femininity full-time I’d be okay with that. He can treat me “like a woman” but it can’t just be about sex. I’d probably even be willing to start HRT for the right guy if I was really in love. But he’d have to marry me too. I really want a husband more than anything';

'>Be me
>Get dumped by boyfriend of 10 months
>Become depressed
>Start going on 4chan again for first time in 3 years
>Make post about my anorexia
>End up typing my entire life story while stoned
>People suggest I go on HRT
>Actually start considering it

What did I expect would happen';

'>>35468813
When you think about getting married, do you immediately envision yourself as a bride wearing a wedding dress? Do you think of yourself as a wife? If so then you might want to start giving HRT some thought. Especially because getting married is important to you. Just my two cents';

'>>35469896
Honestly yeah I mean I would love to wear a dress at my wedding. Never really thought about if I’d call myself a wife or not though. I guess it would have to depend on who I’m marrying';

'>>35469257
>GET PINK PILLED
boobs are awesome and bras are cute, that's just my person preference though. that said the femboy to hrt pipeline is real af';

'>>35471333
With your body type I bet you'd make a beautiful bride just like your hero Natalie';