'>(laughs)
I'm deeply amused each time this happens.';

'>>22590083
>(laughs)
He's probably laughing at the people taking this stuff way too seriously';

'>>22590092
No, this is a literal japanese writing/note-taking style.

Somehow they just interject some (laughs) everywhere.';

'>>22590080
Friendly reminder that a heavily injured SEED Mode Athrun defeated SEED Mode Shinn
Friendly reminder that a healthy Athrun with no SEED Mode stalemated SEED Mode Shinn, and then later destroyed SEED Mode Shinn in 5 seconds when he actually used his own SEED Mode
What a guy he is';

'>>22590080
Athrun uses the SF in the movie?! how is this the first I'm hearing of it?';

'>>22590095
Context matters, so if they know the person stating it is also laughing, it's different I guess.';

'>>22590099
Foundation is holed up in Artemis with Lacus as their prisoner. Athrun sorties in SF to lure someone to come out of Artemis and bring the shield down. When Shura comes out, Amazing Z'Gok with Kira's team slips in. Athrun fights Shura for a bit while Kira's team rescues Lacus.';

'>>22590092
I mean it should still be considered, judging by the fact that this is like the most direct statement we have ever gotten comparing the two';

'>>22590083
>>22590092
>>22590100
>(笑)';

'>>22590247
>(raffs)';

'>>22590080
If Athrun handled the more balanced Justice Gundam, he'll handle Strike Freedom, easy, even with the modifications it got since it was cut down to pieces back when it was stolen. You just can't simply think of Athrun as a melee specialist because of the Aegis and Infinite Justice.';

'>>22590327
Athrun is a melee specialist. That setting doesn't exist in SEED but it got handed to him in SEED Destiny with many sources stating IJ was created to match his melee specialty. But being a melee specialist doesn't mean he can't be good at other general things.. It's like having As in everything but an A+ in melee
People are asking about SF because it is said that SF was created specifically to match the maximum potential of Kira's Ultimate Coordinator ability and people assumed only Kira can pilot it for years, but as Athrun can pilot it with no problem now it shows that Athrun's ability matches that of an Ultimate Coordinator despite not being one

Captcha: GYAN (WTF ????)';

'>>22590327
I don't get this. People say Justice is a balanced suit and Infinite Justice is a melee suit, but Infinite Justice has basically everything that Justice has and can do every general things that Justice can. The only thing that Justice has over Infinite Justice is one beam boomerang, which is like, sure.
Infinite Justice is arguably more balanced than Justice as the FATUM-01 ram can cover more range than anything Justice has. It is a direct upgrade in terms of both melee and range';

'What new model kits could they sell if they do a Seed Justice? MG Infinite Justice Type 2? HGCE Infinite Justice Type 2 in a different shade with a new backpack? Amazing Infinite Justice Type III?

How about bad guys? Maybe do a buddhist alliance thing with customised Ginns and Daggers?

Accord remnant with a new Black Knight machine?';

'>>22590458
Two new anime projects that likely happening are Freedom theft incident and Asucaga story sequel(Seed Justice).

Just bring in an Immortal Justice Type II piloted by Athrun. Give Shinn the Impulse back.';

'Reminder that Athrun didn't get damaged at all in strike freedom while kira got trashed and needed athrun to sacrifice the zgok to save him

Also I always felt that OG Justice was a worse suit than OG Freedom. Basically the fatum is not worth freedom's mobility and two extra canon and railgun. At least IJ was somemore more equal due to fatum being more useful, through strike freedoms firepower was still absurd';

'>>22590505
Yeah, all the Justices feel like runner ups to their Freedom counterparts, right down to the silver inner frame on IJ versus the gold for SF (and then bronze for Destiny Spec II, but admittedly that turns more red).';

'>>22590366
Original Justice has more machine guns in the Lifter as well but those are basically worthless so...';

'>>22590505
Athrun was only fighting Shura, Kira was fighting Shura plus Orphe plus those ships on the other side of space fortress bruh.';

'>>22590092
Fuck you!';

'>>22590458
Amazing Z'GOK and the Z'GOK conversion parts plus Cavalier Alfreed set if you already owned Infinite Justice Type 2';

'>>22590080
Athrun was always the best pilot ever since SEED episode 1. It's just that his internal conflicts mess him up because most of the time he's fighting his old friend, or his own countrymen, or his father, or he's manipulated into fighting in a war he doesn't fully believe in. That's part of what makes him interesting';

'>>22590458
Is it really called Amazing Z'Gok? There's already Z'Gok Amazing. What a confusing name.';

'>>22590511
>>22590511
Not to mention that Justices are always behind:

>ZGMF-X09A
>ZGMF-X10A

>ZGMF-X19A
>ZGMF-X20A

>STTS-808
>STTS-909

>ZGMF-X191M2
>ZGMF/A-262B
Odd that Justice Type II doesn't have an "A" for "Atomic" in its codename anymore.';

'>>22591064
SEED's MS numbering system doesn't work sequentially for ZAFT suits.
It's to denote the combat role and development stage.';

'>>22591311
>It's to denote the combat role and development stage.
That's the Earth Alliance.';

'>>22590098
Athrun Shin and Kira are Rock Paper Scissors

Athrun Beats Shin
Kira Beats Athrun
Shin beats (and at least gives a rough time) Kira';

'>>22591311
ZAFT's first line of nuclear Gundams happened to be ordered sequentially, even if they didn't start at 1.

Justice: X09A
Freedom: X10A
Regenerate: X11A
Testament: X12A
Providence: X13A';

'>>22591403
The number part of ZAFT model codes were more or less random, but the letter codes usually meant something.

ZGM = Zero-Gravity Maneuver
ZGMF = Zero-Gravity Maneuver Fighter
ZGMF-X = Zero-Gravity Maneuver Fighter-Experimental
ZGMT = Zero-Gravity Maneuver Trainer
AMF = Aerial Maneuver Fighter
AMA = Aerial Maneuver Attacker
TFA = Terrestrial Fighter Artillery
TMF/A = Terrestrial Maneuver Fighter/Attacker
UWMF/S = UnderWater Maneuver Fighter/Striker(?)
UMF = Underwater Maneuver Fighter
YMF = Prototype Maneuver Fighter
XMF = Experiment Maneuver Fighter
YFX = not really sure';

'>>22592062
I mean Athrun technically won the Strike-Aegis fight had he not wasted the energy by shooting a Scylla at the Archangel beforehand, but Aegis is kinda a better mech than the Strike
The Saviour fight is completely understandable why he lost. Kira is in SEED Mode and a way better MS while Athrun is having a shaking conviction with the Cagalli stuffs. Of course he would get destroyed
And the above SEED Freedom interview just kinda implies that Athrun is straight up better than Kira too
I think Athrun >= Kira > Shinn';

'>>22590957
no it's just called Z'GOK

https://www.gundam-seed.net/freedom/mecha/mecha20.php';

'You can't convince me that the Z'gok wasn't just an elaborate Elizabeth and Zura joke.';

'>>22592116
>YFX = not really sure
Prototype Fighter-Experimental?';

'>>22592248
According to CD dramas Athrun doesn’t think he’s ever beat Kira.';

'>>22592764
The upgrade is.';

'>>22592764
>>22592792
According to Fukuda, "Amazing" is a generic designation for any unit that's equipped with a Cavalier.
For instance, this would be Amazing Strike Rouge.';

'>>22593253
Hope it gets some plamo so I can make an Amazing Z'Gok Amazing.';

'>>22590098
You understand that there are two types of seed mode right? The “berserker” one, which even kira originally uses (that’s the one Shinn used in all of destiny) and the “true” one, which kira and athrun have in destiny, and Shinn has in FREEDOM as well. No doubt athrun is the better pilot of the 3, but understand that it’s not so simple';

'>>22593271
This is the first time I have seen anyone used this as an argument';

'>>22593253
According to Fukuda, Cagalli is his favorite, which is a fucking lie. The man doesn't know what he's saying. He literally tweets contradictions to the films end.';

'>>22593253
>"Amazing" is a generic designation for any unit that's equipped with a Cavalier.
I beg to differ.';

'>>22593640

>The man doesn't know what he's saying. He literally tweets contradictions to the films end.

We really to compile everything he has said at this point.';

'>>22594768
2ch has a lot of material in that regard.';

'>>22594789
Link?';