'I'm openly gay (I love seamen in my mouth!)';

'I've been looking for a daysailer for the new season for a couple of months now
I'm stuck in rural Germany for the moment and don't have much space to sail, a small lake close by, ca. 1x0.5km and a few large lakes about an hour's drive away. (OP is our 30ft in Newport ri)
I found a Gruben Sprint (Pic rel) in good condition, but I'm not sure if it's right for me (too big? Better to get a cheap beater? Maybe a SENPAI is better for the cabin?)';

'/n/mg/ maritime general has lots of info regarding jobs at sea btw

>>2708951
Hell yeah brother
>>2708952
I meant 'SENPAI for the cabin'';

'>>2708953
F A M not senpai>:(';

'>>2708954
>>:(
:3';

'>>2708954
hownew.ru';

'>>2708948
What type of sailboat should I get starting off?';

'>>2709691
depends where you are and what you want to do but a used dinghy is usually a good idea to get a feel for it.';

'>>2709691
>>2709859
I second this
(US) A used walker bay with the whole sailing rig is a good option for getting a feel for it
Similar in size to an opti but can be used with an outboard or to row with oars';

'>>2708948
What's a good length of yacht to both cross the atlantic and sail far up navigable rivers?';

'>>2709874
>t. viking';

'>>2709881
n-no vikings here';

'NTA but does anyone know which seaside / riverside towns have the wealthiest monasteries?';

'>>2709887
Vatican City is a safe bet';

'>>2709898
Noted';

'>>2709910

Bud if you're serious about taking on the Vatican with a viking longship I want in';

'hello gentlemen of /seamen/

i bought a 20 foot (6.2 meter) sailboat because I am a hobo and I need somewhere to live

i am taking a sailing lesson in two weeks, it will be about 7 hours of sailing with some other people, i will be learning to sail on a yacht

tips?';

'>>2711552
Sounds comfy anon. What model is it?';

'>>2711552
20ft is kind of a tiny boat for liveaboard, hope you're prepared for it. Barely better than sleeping in a van, probably worse in some ways.
Sailing is fun though enjoy. Fix stuff early before it gets worse.';

'>>2711868
a kelt 620 (pic rel)

>>2711921
yea I have experience with living in crappy conditions, a 20 foot sailboat seems like a big luxury, never slept in a van, used to live in a hole in the forest, or just slept on the forest floor/in abandoned buildings

pretty sure the boat has no major issues! some paint chipped off the rudder';

'>>2711987
Are you the dutch anon who posted picrel?';

'>>2712417
the one and only!';

'>>2712509
Based
I might join you in a few months';

'>>2712550
you can add me if you want, my burner mail is [email protected] , I can send you my number from there';

'>>2708948
hello,
I have a compac 16 with minimal rigging and no sails. This is my first boat. how do you find used sails or should I just get some made? what is a reasonable price you would estimate?
Thanks sailors.';

'>>2712604
local sailing clubs, especially if they do racing someone probably has a set a few years old that are a bit stretched for optimal performance but still fine for casual use.
No idea what they should cost, I've seen used ones listed for anything from almost free just-trying-to-get-rid-of-it to "I spent less than that on my boat"';

'>>2712577
Thanks man, I had already screenshot it from the other thread
If I ever actually buy a boat I'll be sure to send you an email ;)';

'>live your myth on Pueblo Reservoir';

'>>2712697
thank you. good idea.';

'>>2709691
Wing Dinghy';

'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AZXXKj0p0s';

'oh hey, the seasonal general is back. Spent some time out on the water today. Nice bit of sun but not much wind unfortunately.

I'd like to spend some more time offshore this summer, but I'm pretty deep in a bay and getting out there is a real pain. Guess I'll just have to get going earlier in the mornings.';

'>>2708948
Realistically how would I go about learning how to sail and eventually living aboard a sailboat. I'm almost done with school and will potentially have a high-paying job in a coastal town. No gf ,pets, feelsbadman.jpg, etc, so I have plenty of time to spend on the boat. All I really need is a kitchen, a bathroom, a bed, and a workstation.
Is pivoting into remote work and using starlink and my sailboat to be a nomadic sailor-worker too farfetched?';

'>>2715615
Starlink Maritime is a bit pricey but if the work pays well it should be feasible.

I don't know specifically about remote workers but I know living on a sailboat isn't particularly rare. Older bluewater and coastal cruisers tend to be surprisingly good bargains for how much money boomers throw into them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3-Qe1S35Xo';

'I was planning on buying a sail boat in Japan, but realised that A: There is nowhere in the whole country to beach your boat and I would have to pay for a marina, and B: You need a license.';

'>>2715798
My previous remote job was a little over $100k, I imagine with this I could live well and save successfully on a small sailboat.';

'>>2715853
>You need a license
Pirate law. It's not illegal if you don't get caught.';

'After restoring a few sailing dinghies and doing some coastal camp cruising that last few years I've finally upgraded. Got this 26 footer for next to nothing.';

'>>2717567
Nice. How's the inside look?';

'>>2708948
opinions on kayaking? Ausanon here, went out on a big one with a friend in lake Macquarie, very peaceful. is it worth getting a good sea kayak and going out on a clear day to enjoy the ocean?';

'>>2717601
I've only ever hugged coastal areas in Aus kayaking but it's great, there's a few places to go camping around the Hawkesbury although I'm always too scare to light a fire in case the water jannies nab me';

'>>2712509
I hope it goes well, I think the most critical thing on sailboats like this is just the electricals/ bilge pump, I've seen many sailboats tied to moorings that have sunk I suppose because the bilge pump crapped out during heavy rain. If you're on it full time I suppose you'll have a better sense if it stops working and will be able to fix it in time.';

'>>2717600
Bit shabby, but no structural problems. Almost everything has been ripped out and the cleaning etc has begun.';

'>>2718324
youll be working at it for years and ultimately you'll spend more than if you got one that some boomer hadn't run into near ruin

BUT you'll learn an amazing skillset that you'll have the rest of your life.. just don't forget to sail';

'>>2718378
Not years, we've had it for 6 weeks and we're already well into it. Between my wife and I we've got the experience and 90% of the required skills. Interior strip out, cleaning, sanding and repainting is already done. Next few weeks I'll be refairing the hull and painting it while she does interior stuff. Got 6 months before we need to be out of our current place. We're pretty confident we'll get it done before the wet weather is back.
We sail a few days a week in our little junk rigged open dinghy, but we cant fuckin wait to be living aboard the new boat';

'Nice bit of wind today. Getting going at a good pace with a bit of a heel is always fun. Pardon the messy lines. Rather cloudy out, which was probably why I didn't see a single other boat all day. I know for a fact that there are several hundred sailboats in marinas around my region of the bay, yet 99% of them never go out unless its a perfect day.';

'>>2719776
What model boat? It looks nice.';

'>>2708948
I can pick up a pretty well-maintained 80's 30 ft. sailboat for around 65% of my savings. I don't have enough to buy a house, is houseboat living on a 30 ft. sailboat feasible? I live in Texas. I already have Starlink because I live in the Piney Woods.';

'I bought a 17ft whaler clone last year. thinking of just junking it and buying a better boat. too many problems. it has a slow leak that I haven’t been able to pinpoint using the usual methods. the transom is not great. it previously had delaminating on and was repaired in an ugly way, essentially just having epoxy poured on it. in addition to all that the motor is an old Evinrude 88 spl. it won’t idle no matter what adjustments I’ve made to the carbs. also cleaned the carbs. no difference. I need to give it a lot of gas in neutral and try to quickly shift into gear to keep it from stalling. thinking of giving up on his one and getting a 19ft Grady White with a 150hp Yamaha that is for sale locally for 9k. mostly interested in using it like I used my boat last year, for taking. Y nieces tubing. we did get to tube last year but it was frustrating with the various issues.';

'I've never been on a boat before. Are Kayaks fun? Do they require any licensing or registration? (Colorado). I'm not much of a fisherman, is it worth it to get into just to bullshit around in?';

'>>2720141
>is houseboat living on a 30 ft. sailboat feasible?
the moken and the bajau laut of maritime southeast asia have done it for centuries';

'>>2708948
i got my boating license today, see you on the high seas anons';

'>>2708948
Alright fellas, what should I want to do if I want to live on a boat, have a budget of $20,000 (for the boat alone, I have a shit ton of money for other things like food, tools, etc), wanted to bounce between the bahamas, Florida, be able to spend months remotely in the Everglades/Keys, and be able to stay in town for short periods of time as well, all on top of having no boating experience?

Big ask, but I gotta know. I am losing my mind here in Orlando.

pic semi related';

'>>2723063
20k seems on the low end for a liveaboard that can sail reliably/safely between Florida and the Bahamas. I would probably add another 15-20k as a buffer for replacing/repairing/adding anything on the boat (e.g. do all the batteries need replaced, are the electronics all good, are the sails worn out, does the hull need scrubbed and repainted, does it already have a windvane steering system or do you need to buy one, etc.)';

'I have an inflatable boat on the way :3';

'>>2719784
Cal 35. It's a relatively uncommon model that never had a long production run, but it's treated me well.';

'Working on an electrical overhaul on my boat. Real pain in the ass desu.';

'How did you all find boats you like? Maybe i'm just being picky but I can't find a steel/aluminum hull motor boat I actually like.';

'>>2712914
that’s quite specific and a great place to kayak
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8oV5OpE4dhs';

'Went sailing for the first time yesterday. It was a lot of fun.';

'I've been watching videos about sailing off and on for about 4 years and part of me thinks I need to get a boat and try it out. I work a job I hate and own a house in MA, my family does have a place on Cape Cod though...
I see people scoring cheap boats which is intriguing. I think Sam Holmes bought a 25' boat for $5-$7K and got another for free. I saw a local listing where a nice shape small sailboat sold for $3k. I just don't know where to start. I think I could afford to spend around $5k on a small boat but I've heard it's expensive to pay for moorings- and I'd probably want a spot reasonably close to our beach home. Should I get a smaller vessel on a trailer to start? (I'd have to get a hitch for my car.) Do I need boat insurance or is that waived for pleasure craft?
Any suggestions would be appreciated, I'm a total newfag.';

'[maladaptive day dream post]
whats a cheap sailing dinghy that is just big enough to lie down in
im just going to get in a boat and sail forever
ive never sailed before';

'>>2729368
something like this would be dope';

'>>2729734
No it wouldn't. You have to invest substantial time (and money) maintaining a wooden hull, spars and sails every year. More than with glass by far. When you could be sailing.';

'>>2729360
Same anon here. Would it be better to start out with a trailer boat or one with a deeper keel?';

'>>2718385
That's really cool anon. I wish you good luck!';

'>>2729368
Gorfnik or a PDRacer. Extremely easy to build and transport, reasonably stable and fine for learning on.';

'>>2712577
>>2712509
>>2712417
>>2711987
>>2711552
this is me, I'm living on my sailboat now, been three weeks on the water

if any of you guys want to come to Holland to learn 2 sail/boat or just hang out you can email me (email in replies)

going to put my mast on soon, have no clue how though, going to need a marina to do it for me';

'>>2730453
Good luck anon! You'll probably need their help using a crane to lift the mast upright so the base can rest against the hull or the top of the cabin (depends if it's a 'hull-stepped' or 'deck-stepped' mast)';

'Not a lot of advice on here';

'>>2731217
What kind of advice are you looking for, anon?';

'Got burned on a sailboat deal. Really badly, lost 50% of my money, and 2 months of my life. Boat turned out to be biohazardous.
Lost my money, and my sailing dreams along with it...

Buying an inflatable Intex boat and putting a tent on it to cope.';

'>>2731917
>biohazardous
What was wrong with it?';

'>>2731973
Was used as a drug den. Needles, HIV positive possibly, drug residues on walls (we're talking hard stuff), possible fluids contamination.
Not your "lighting up a joint on a boat", but "Watree White's RV - Nautical Edition".

Cost me 3K, quoted 2K for cleanup, fuck that. sold for 1.5K last week.';

'>>2731995
Walter White's***
Fucking autocorrect, what the fuck even is Watree?';

'>>2731995
I was thinking Anthrax when you first said biohazard so I guess it could have been worse. Still sucks that happened though. What did the previous owner say about it?';

'>>2732005
Kek, yeah.
Just don't want to deal with it at this point, previous owner told me nothing about the drugs.';

'>>2732053
>>2731995
Update on the sailboat. Giving it away for free.';

'>>2712417
This is based. I picked up a 20 footer that I am living on, dropped maybe another 2k on shiny new outboard, repairs and some other stuff. Really not a lot to go wrong on it honestly, main issue will be rigging (standing and running) but dyneema is pretty cheap nowadays and you can rig yourself, second hand sails are good price and will last a long time. Lots of decent condition second hand hardware that yuppies flip on the used market for cheap. Fishing, collecting rainwater (got like 120L of storage), pulling up the keel and chilling on remote beaches, living the life. Find a public jetty every few weeks and go pick up provisions. The space is a little small but I'm always sailing, fishing or diving so it's basically just a place to sleep or sit around and watch movies if it's raining. I would get 3rd party insurance though, if you have a bump with someone's 300k Beneteau it's going to be a bad day without it and it only cost me like $150 for the year. Small boats have lots of advantages, being able to pull up the keel and motor anywhere, drop the mast to get under bridges and don't have to worry about anchor dragging at all really since there is so little windage.';

'>>2732808
>>2731995
To clarify "sold for 1.5K last week".
Deposit sent, they promised to give the rest this week, and then the deal dropped.
So I'm still stuck with it.';

'>>2708948
First sailing course is tomorrow. Couldn't pick a better place to learn than Sydney Harbour.
Have I put myself on a path to financial ruin? (yes).';

'>>2729859
I started out with a trailer sailor. I went to a small keelboat as I found i didn't like the hassle of launch and retrieval.
>>2724928
Based fellow CalAnon
>>2732943
Naw. They cost as much as much or as little as you want.';

'Whenever I hear some boomer say "BOAT - BREAK OUT ANOTHER THOUSAND HURF HURF" all I hear is "I'm a useless fuckwit who can't use basic tools and has to pay a "marine technician" $200 to squirt a tube of sealant"';

'>>2708948
whats the catch with wooden sailboats? ive come across so many interesting old sloops that are relatively well maintained and not that expensive in the grand scheme of things. i love the classic way they look. is the maintenace more of a bitch than a fiberglass hull?';

'>>2733135
Yes, wood rots. Having to rip out large amounts of the hull, hand rebuild it to the correct curvature, recaulk and repaint everything, is either going to be really expensive or really time consuming. If you have the money they do indeed look a lot more classic and old-timey, but if you're a regular dude with a normal sub-100k/year job I would be hesitant to buy anything larger than a daysailer made of wood.

Also there's a lot of fiberglass boats that have teak decks, bowsprits, etc. that give you most of the look. Thankfully the ye olde wood stuff has retained popularity as an aesthetic.';

'>>2733135
Just because a wooden boat looks good doesn't mean it's not fucked under the hood and wood is a HUGE pain to fix, have to pull apart the hull and do all sorts of specialized shit rather just patch and glass the problem area. If it's a good price then it's a good price for a reason. A classic wooden boat that is in genuinely good shape is usually expensive. Buy a 70s fiberglass boat m8.';

'>>2733149
>>2733206
thanks for the advice guys. how about durability, like if i (god forbid) run it onto the rocks would fiberglass just shatter into a million pieces vs wood could take more of a beating? i have visions of carbon fibre bike frames that snap into shards from the slightest provocation';

'>>2733267
Very roughly speaking, the durability is about the same, and it varies depending on build type like you would expect it to. e.g. a thinly-built, weight-reduced racing cruiser made of wood or fiberglass would be highly likely to break apart if you hit rocks at speed, whereas a beefed-up, thick-hulled blue water cruiser (whether wood or fiberglass) would have significantly better survival odds. For example, Westsail 32s have extremely beefy fiberglass hulls and you can find stories of people getting hit by ocean freighters, ramming into shipping containers, sailing through cyclones, 30ft.+ rogue waves, etc. and not breaking up (this is on the extreme end of durability though, obviously lighter ships would not survive a lot of that).

Video related, Westsail 32 getting picked up and thrown by a rogue wave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u2HbUSHrqY';

'>>2733267
If the boat is on the rocks it's fucked no matter what. Stay away from rocks. After that fibreglass is basically bulletproof and is dead easy/inexpensive to repair yourself. A good starter is a 20-24' keelboat built in the 60-70's out of fiberglass. Go out and sail, fix things yourself.';

'>>2733267
>would fiberglass just shatter into a million pieces
fiberglass isn't glass lol, it's not going to shatter. Fiberglass is very robust. Grounding on rocks will still gouge the hell out of it but its not a brittle material.';