'>>92585202
Elspeth Sun's Champion.';

'>>92585202
>TQ
Garruk. No other pw can compete.';

'>>92585202
>favorite planeswalker card?
none, fuck planeswalkers';

'>>92585262
Conversely this.';

'>TQ
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage. The only acceptable PW card format.';

'>>92585202
I hate Bolas.Only one so far besides that witch, which I can handle, but for Nicol, if I don't have an exile or destroy planeswalker card on me, I concede, i'm not playing with that guy.';

'YOU VILL LIKE SADDLE, YOU VILL LIKE THE MULTIVERSE RAVE MEGA ARC FROM 2025 YOU VILL LIKE THE MOUNT AND VEHICLE SINERGY AND YOU VILL CONSUME PRODUCT!';

'>>92585446
I VILL, THANK YOU';

'tamiyo compleated sage is my fav.';

'bros it's happening';

'Can moonsilver key grab thousand moon smithy?';

'>>92585476
premodern is not gonna win that why are you so naive premodernon';

'>>92585478
no. DFCs not on the battlefield are always just the front side for effects that are looking at them.';

'>>92585491
Figured, thank you!';

'>TQ';

'Bloomburrow kino.';

'>>92585497
It's a shame they forgot to make Kaya an interesting character for the majority of her appearances because they keep giving her some of the most unique design space with her cards. Meanwhile Chandra is, like... "I dunno, burn damage, impulse draw... Copying spells I guess?"';

'>TQ
As a matter of fact i would play any of it's forms because i'm an Ashiok enjoyer, but my favourite';

'>>92585555
The "or blocks" part of that Nightmare token feels like it gets people.';

'>>92585502
I have no idea why people think this set is going to be good in any way. You don't have to look any further than the past two or three years of shoehorning in "heckin' doggos" and "cute kots" in multiple sets to see where this set's aesthetic is going.';

'>>92585202
>TQ
Planeswalkers have been a blight upon the game ever since they were introduced. That being said, my favorite card from my least favorite card type is Sorin Markov because I pulled him in a sealed tournament and walked away with a 6-0 win.';

'>>92585502
I'm not going to buy this set, but smug frog man gets a +1 from me.';

'TQ: Pic related. Shame it doesn't really have a deck anywhere to live in, but the card is good.';

'>tq
yes I like to cheat vampires into play
no I am not ashamed';

'>>92585595
It's fascinating how Chandra has 19 cards and only like two of them are good.';

'>>92585502
>"Its not gonna suck itself, anon"
Is the animal set a degenerate product?';

'>>92585555
she used to be my fav. still not far off from it honestly';

'>>92585497
Planeswalkers are some of the shittiest and blandest characters I can think of, but Kaya manages to be the shittiest and blandest among them. Truly the lowest of the low.';

'>>92585635
Well, remember that red wasn't allowed to be good for many years because burn was a feel bad for casuals. It still is, sadly. Red has "lost" the most mechanics this way over time compared to other colours.

And no, if it doesn't go face, it isn't burn. WotC can call cards that deal damage to creatures only "burn" as much as it wants, but they can't pull the wool over my eyes - those cards are removal, not burn.';

'>>92585679
>she essentially genocided an entire religion of elites that controls the wealth of the world
what did wotc mean by this?';

'>>92585697
Amendments should be made.';

'>>92585697';

'>>92585683
Makes me wonder if people would hate Chandra as much as they do Jace if Chandra got a JTMS-tier card early on.';

'>opponent plays sticker goblin with sol land + mountain
>rolls 6, muxus, big hit
>i play sticker goblin with mountain and a sol land, have 1 untapped land with mixus in hand
>roll 4
I love Hearthstone!!';

'>>92585446
>MOUNT AND VEHICLE SINERGY
How the fuck do mounts and vehicles have synergy with each other?';

'>>92585851
Come on, anon. WotC couldn't have spelled it out for you any more clearly with the signpost draft uncommon buffing both mounts and vehicles and one rare in the set has enough power to saddle anything and draws cards when they get tapped (But they have ZOMG vigilance what a puzzle!)...

Forced draft themes, signpost uncommons and sticking to rigid set designs are what are really killing MtG.';

'>>92585595
Its a win-con in a lotus field variant via getting Omniscience out then looping Chandra and Bala Ged Recovery's `';

'>>92585635
>>92585683
Its also telling that they tried really hard to make Chandra in particular the face of the brand for a few years there but it failed completely.
>>92585798
To some extent yes but their is a portion of the community that hates control on instinct in a way burn never does and so Jace would of always caught flack from that.';

'>>92585555
Nice quads

For me it's pic related';

'>>92585851
not so much synergy, rather that the lord effects both';

'>>92585202
It's not that good, but hitting that ultimate and turning the grave into my hand just activates the neurons.';

'It's literally impossible to get a gf as an average white guy, I can't believe I've end up crushing on fucking magic card girls these days';

'>>92585202
I miss her. Runner up: OG Garruk';

'>>92586349
maybe lower your ultraunrealistic bar a little omg';

'>>92586411
Unrealistic???';

'>>92585999
Chandra is an alternative to charming Fae of Wishes. It's not the main win con anymore.';

'>>92586420
You ended up crushing on mtg cards, you are either too young or too unrealistic, likely both.';

'>>92585202
>TQ
>5cmc
>no ultimate
>doesn't exile, gain life, draw a card, or have flash
White must retvrn to fair and honest gigachads (NO FURRIES)';

'>>92586613
the -2 is his ultimate';

'Put in decent work with a Simic deck I used to run in Standard.';

'>>92586691
Nah, ultimates are always the last option of the card, no matter how bad it is. Flip Gideon, Ajani Strength, and Nahiri Unforgiving also have 0 ults, with the former Ajani having his below a negative ability.';

'1 month from now MH3 previews will officially start
1 month and 1 week (and a half) from now MH3 will be fully spoiled
1 month and 2 weeks from now MH3 will be released

an entire era of eternal formats is about to end';

'>>92586847
Good thing Pioneer will be stable through all of that until Bloomborrow comes out. Fuck supplemental products.';

'>>92586847
>New Modern Horizons set
>Legacy will rotate again';

'>>92586847
We are ready.';

'>>92586461
Have you seen woman in magic cards lately? His bar is already too low lmao';

'Didn't have to be like this';

'>>92586857
They might ban TC and fuck the one deck they have been balancing the format around.';

'>>92585833
>sticker goblin
>rolling
You're no better than the Arenababs playing their alchemy cards.';

'I'm tired of manmade horror jokes, this shit is beyond stale, get some new material.';

'>>92587082
I'm tired of magic the gathering, this shit is beyond stale, get some new material';

'>>92586847
It all returns to nothing
It all comes tumbling down
tumbling down
tumbling doooooooooown';

'>>92587082
Joke? Who's joking? It's just a statement of fact. We're still suffering the fires and fallout of the last apocalypse and now it's all about to get nuked all over again.';

'>>92587082
No.';

'>>92587082
The truth does not get stale';

'>>92586847
Something about this art looks so tacky, like it's a half-step removed from uwu-ifying Emrakul.';

'>>92587174
It's not as craggly as original Emrakul and the shading is flatter than SOI Emrakul';

'>>92587174
Removes the all scale and it's too round, makes it look like a mushroom with tentacles.';

'>>92585411
Which one? The one that's used in EDH infinites or the ones that cost 9 fucking mana?';

'>>92586970
Drove has cuter elves but as a card I prefer Heedless One.';

'Going to my first proper (sealed) tournament. Am I expected to bring a ton of tokens and dices to do things 'properly'? it seems like bringing in a bunch of cards/stuff could be frowned upon and get you suspected of cheating by bringing in bombs.

Hopefully I win the green card lottery!';

'>>92587734
Recently attended a sealed event myself, I would suggest bringing at least six non-life-tracking dice. Tokens weren't as much of an issue, packs included enough tokens to have placeholders, even if the stats weren't accurate.';

'Any day now... wotc will realize the error of their ways and scale down their set releases and reduce the complexity and power level of their cards...';

'>>92587888
LoL, the only way that happens if is they survive getting sold off after Hasbro collapses and then we have a 1% chance of things improving, with increases if Wizards moves off the West Coast.';

'>Lived long enough to see DnD head for IP sale twice now';

'The monday night draft at my LGS which usually has 3-4 people, needed to be split into 3 pods of 6-7 today, over FOUR TIMES the turnout. Thunder Junction SAVED limited. Apologize, right now, to the cowboy themed hat set that is undeniably goated to draft.';

'>>92586847
I'm numb at this point. I don't know how MH3 could kill Modern harder than MH2 did.';

'>>92587082
I am also tired of manmade horrors making a joke out of the game but WotC keeps on making them anyway.';

'>>92586847
I'm bored at this point. I can't wait for MH3 to enrich Modern harder than MH2 did.';

'>>92587128
Ah yes the two cards that were called weak.
Fury was called the weakest of the cycle as was standard of red mythics.
Hogaak a weak commander card that has no business in a modern set since people only wanted powerful effects.';

'hopefully we get a new ragavan in MH3';

'>>92585202
>TQ
no';

'>>92588256

in white';

'>whagavan
>blugavan
>blagavan
>gregavan';

'>>92587174
emrakul has become rounder and smoother with each card';

'>>92585202
>TQ';

'>>92588315
back when magic had attractive females...';

'>>92588315
Holy fuck that's a slow card, how did they manage to print cards at +5 mana?';

'>>92588299';

'>>92587082
>modern gets shaken up 2 times a year due to FIRE
>wahh wahhh it's getting stale
Zoom zoom somewhere else faggot.';

'Does anyone else think that this is the worst draft set? At least worst draft set since ONE';

'>>92585604
Nothing worse than turn 3 this piece of shit into the 3BBB cancer. Bans like Oko are jokes in comparison to this.';

'He wheeled me into it and I drew a second one two turns later';

'>>92588671
(new FIRE card ( spicy brew ) MH block constructed)';

'>>92585202
>TQ
the legacy playable Teferi';

'>>92588871
lol it's not even a free plotted spell so just counter it';

'>>92585833
there's no dice required for Mind Goblin, what are you talking about?';

'>>92589005
The MTGO version changed the effect to a dice roll so they didn't have to implement the sticker shit.';

'Soon Modern will burn harder than when this awful thing was printed...';

'>>92588853
On the contrary I think this is one of the better recent draft formats, though that might be due to how awful MKM and LCI drafts were';

'>>92588871
>Bans like Oko are jokes in comparison to this.
oko didn't get answered by a 1 mana spell from the same set';

'>>92588871
lmaoing @ ur life';

'>>92588871
>NOOOOOO I CAN'T DEAL WITH A SINGLE WARD/FLYING CHEAT
Sad anon.';

'>>92589032
>Not even Arena wants sticker shit
Whose idea was that anyway? Do we have a culprit for "half of the un-set is actually playable" or "put adhesive strips on your cards"?';

'>>92589318
It's unclear specifically, most of the desire for some of the Un-set to be eternal legal was from Unstable having a lot of "these cards are just real cards" things in it, and it was apparently quite a late decision.';

'>>92589324
That said I have no idea why they thought stickers shouldn't just be acorn by default.';

'>>92589324
It was a bad decision. I also criticized Unstable for just being normal cards with wacky names to create a "balanced limited environment". Instead of taking criticism and improving, they doubled down with more normal cards and a declaration that the cards without a tiny acorn logo would be legal for normal play. They also fucked up even further beyond and had to announce that some cards were supposed to have acorns because they printed them without. If the people responsible for that fiasco didn't get fired, I'm going to commit a hate crime.';

'>>92589360
What cards were "meant to have acorns"?';

'>>92589324
>most of the desire for some of the Un-set to be eternal legal was from Unstable having a lot of "these cards are just real cards" things in it
pretty sure that wasn't it. pretty sure the reasoning was that it is difficult to sell a joke set where the entire product can't be played anywhere, or anytime, other than the draft. because it didn't take until unstable for them to have silver bordered cards that COULD be blackbordered. it was literally just that the joke sets were a hard sell, even to people who would enjoy them, because the cards are so useless.';

'>>92589121
LCI was great compared to MKM and OTJ
LCI was not a good draft set';

'>>92589371
Well Unfinity kinda tanked regardless so a fifth Un-set isn't looking too likely any time soon.';

'undefined';

'>>92589421
It sure does not feel like the average legendary creature count is going down';

'>>92589421
When Mark says something like that, he means "going forward", and given the promise was made some time last year, you can probably expect to see results of that change sometime more around later this year. That's assuming he's telling the truth. Bloomburrow will probably have 20-odd, Duskmourn I can see actually having relatively few, Death Race will have a fair bit, etc.';

'>>92589421
Mark you are a faggot and a liar, stop pampering to your coomander retard crew and start making the game good again you pathetic lazy idiot.';

'>>92589389
>Unfinity kinda tanked
gee, i wonder why. between making joke mechanics like stickers eternal legal, releasing between the 3rd and 4th standard set of the year (one of the shortest windows between major releases), and releasing on the exact same day as the warhammer commander decks, i wonder WHY it failed. but also, they always say a new Un-set is unlikely, then do it again.';

'>>92589444
>When Mark says something like that, he means "going forward"
It's always convenient for him to say that something will happen in the future and then never fulfill the promise';

'>>92589558
Well, in the past he said they are printing more legendries for commander. He never lied there.';

'>>92586847
I think people should temper their expectations a bit about MH3, it will have plenty of playable and meta defining cards but it's not like it will make the rest of MH1, MH2 and LTR obsolete, it's less of a format reset and more of a hard shake-up.';

'>>92589368
It's not a particular card, but multiple sheets had acorns on normal cards and no acorns on non-playable cards. The result is that you can't know if an unfinity card is legal just by looking at it, so you have to check scryfall or gatherer to know for sure.';

'>>92589421
>>92589433
>>92589444
>>92589487
>>92589558
It's been factchecked by snopes chuds.';

'>>92589749
this. you just have to look more closely
and as mark said, otj is not the norm so we count that out';

'>>92589444
It will go down EXCEPT for sets that need them for arbitrary reasons
that is, all of them';

'>>92589800
>Only special sets will have a shitload of legendary creatures
>GET EXCITED BECAUSE EVERY SET IS SPECIAL!!!!!!!';

'My mom kept telling me i'm her special boy, then I grew up and realized i'm just retarded.';

'>>92589846
The next arbitrary reasons is
>No you see we need to show off all our face planesw- sorry notable individuals traveling between planes via omenpaths' fursonas! This can only be done for this set so that's why we need 50 legendary creatures!
This post isn't a joke it's just a statement of obvious fact which is the worst part. At this point they're defiling the game's grave and they still won't bring back the original elder dragons (or even Ugin) despite pushing the shit out of the format formerly known as elder dragon highlander.';

'>>92589772
>4 sets
Isn’t that less than 1 year at this point? We can’t assume a trend that will actually matter if it peters out in 8 months';

'>>92589890
good for you monored player';

'>walking past an LGS with some change in my pocket
>fuck it let's buy a play booster like a degen
>Costs 80p more in the shop than it does if you order from the shop's own website
What the fuck is wrong with shop owners?';

'>>92586847
>>92589619
Can't wait to see if we get cards that can boost mono blue tron and eldrazi tron.';

'Would more physical packs be bought if you could scan a QR code or something on any card you physically packed for a one time redemption to obtain the same card in Arena?';

'>>92590414
I can't see why it wouldn't. Would obviously get less income from Arena, so it's kinda up to the company where they want the income from.
I think it would make people way happier, but keeping your customers happy is obviously not a priority.';

'>>92590414
like pokemon does? yes but instead of giving you the same cards as the real pack it should be randomized (because it would be easier to do and wotc is incompetent)';

'>>92588325
OG Kamigawa was designed to be low-power, which makes it a great palate-cleanser from all of the power-creep.';

'>>92590432
I wonder how much income Arena is even bringing in. I always got the impression that all the whales were just streamers, whereas with paper magic, anyone who wants to play anything has to drop good cash.

>>92590440
Didnt even know Pokemon had an online game lol. Does Pokemon randomise it? And if they're all going to be randomised anyway, I feel like the code would end up on the back of the pack itself and get robbed by every LGS employee ever lol.';

'>>92590134
nono, you don't get it. we can show you any numbers we want to match our truths. also [current set] is the best selling set of all time btw';

'>>92590432
>Would obviously get less income from Arena
That isn't how it works in the real world.
Rewards for arena would be a boon due to FOMO that would drive new whales to the platform and increase arena revenue.
They won't do it because MTG isn't profit-driven.';

'>>92590636
>MTG isn't profit-driven.
Could've fooled me with the powercreeping.';

'>>92590525
iirc it is randomized and it's inside every pack just like our tokens/useless art cards';

'>>92590646
It's not profit-driven it's retard-driven.';

'>>92590414
Probably not. All the commander players and resellers with no reason to play Arena would flood the market with enough codes for free/cheap that it wouldn't be more than a minor bonus.';

'>>92590680
>All the commander players and resellers with no reason to play Arena
They are planning to release EDH on Arena.';

'>playing a little Standard at the LGS
>opponent playing UW control
>T1 plot Demonic Ruckus
>T2 plot SSS
>T3 play Kumano and opponent can't counter it or else the Slickshot comes down with at least 3 other non-creature spells
>Sits for about 30 seconds realising this
>scoops
kek the card's definitely eating a ban from Standard at the very least';

'>>92588315
Why doesn't this creature have flying? She's suspended in the air. Total flavor fail.';

'>>92588871
turn 3? with black ritual its turn 1';

'>>92590646
Q1 is tomorrow';

'>>92585202
Hey I actually pulled two of these new jaces.

Sorry I haven't been really paying attention. The plotted thing looks neat, but why exactly is this guy considered great?
Is he just generically good or was there some specific combo?';

'>>92590530
>also [current set] is the best selling set of all time btw
the best selling set is still LTR, that hasn't changed for a year';

'>>92590772
MaRo always uses some sort of wordplay or accidentally "forgets" to specify that it's the best selling standard set or the best selling set with funny hats';

'>>92590692
Out of curiosity, what's your gameplan if the Op casts High Noon on their T2, assuming you're on the play?';

'>>92590791
Same as his plan for a T2 plotted SSS. Fucking lose lol. Alternatively, hope to draw my sideboarded Destroy Evil(s). Another reason the boros SSS deck is better than the RDW one.';

'>>92590772
nono, you don't get it. we can show you any numbers we want to match our truths. also the amount of legendary creatures is going down btw';

'>>92590851
>also the amount of legendary creatures is going down btw
Watch wotc print even more legendary creatures than ever before, but then show some bullshit number of how one standard set had less than another a year ago.';

'>>92590778
Best selling Standard set is still Neon Dynasty, actually.';

'>>92586847
Pauper will be fine, right friends?';

'>>92590762
Valki';

'>>92588299
Now this but for Valakut/Emeria :)';

'>>92585833
>the joke set is meant to be taken seriously
they shot themselves in the foot';

'>>92590762
>Is he just generically good or was there some specific combo?
a little bit of both, +1 to draw and discard is quite alright for a 2 mana planeswalker but what pushes him over the edge is the interaction with valki/tibalt, you can plot valki and cast tibalt for free on a later turn, and valki is a damn good card when you're not paying 7 mana for it';

'Are there any 60 card precons available, suited for beginners? Duel decks? It looks like they are only producing commander decks now.';

'>>92589890
you can kys to spite her';

'>>92590314
in my third world phyrexian sphere, MKM prerelease was double the price (u$90) than anywhere else, nobody bought it
surprise surprise, OTJ was $50';

'>>92591654
Yes, you can buy Portal Second Age precon decks to learn the gam e';

'>>92590791
High noon ain't that good against SSS since it limits you too. If you don't have removal after he slams down SSS you still get fucked due to trample, it just takes longer to kill you';

'>>92592174
did you forget there is removal stapled on the enchantment?';

'>>92592278
At 5 fucking mana. And then you lose the enchantment and they can play the three other Show-Offs they have plotted.';

'>Monastery Swiftspear is the strongest red card in standard
I read this in another thread on 4chan, won't say where';

'>>92592325
It's not like it could be anywhere other than /v/.';

'>>92592322
now if we start assuming the opponent always has it, we have a totally different problem to solve. the slowing down is the point and will get you to 5 mana. it isn't legendary either so might as well stack em';

'>>92592174
The idea is that your deck can either play spells on their turn or are higher quality cards that don't rely on synergy for power. UW control absolutely demolishes SSS decks with High Noon on the board. It's not even close.

>>92592355
Could be /vg/. Though I think even they know Monstrous Rage is a bigger issue.';

'>>92592174
Plot SSS turn 2
Opponent Plays High Noon turn 2
Your Options are to...
Play SSS on its own for 1 damage
Use Enchantment removal costing 1-2 mana and then swinging with SSS for a maximum of like 10 damage with the nut hand, instead of 18 to kill.
Plot another SSS and hold til a later turn
Play another creature
Toss a random spell out which loses you damage with the SSS

All options force you to slow down your game plan giving the opponent time to stabilize and god forbid they have countermagic are their own target removal. if you do try and get the SSS out alone.';

'>Try Yawgmoth, 4c Goryo's, Murktide and other meta decks
>Only go 1-4 or 2-3 in leagues
>Play cool looking Asmo food variant number 732
>Go 4-1 or 5-0
At this point I'm hoping MH3 doesn't nuke Asmo decks completely since it seems it's the only archetype I can play.';

'>>92592425
>asmongolddiesinacar
damn I had totally forgot that meme after the first week of second impact. what does it even do other than the book thing?
Captcha: MH802';

'>>92592404
They can't play a counterspell, since they tapped out for High Noon.
If you play SSS, then you could also hold up mana to protect it during your opponent's turn, with the knowledge that they can only play a single removal spell.
It does slow down the game plan, but it's still feasible to build up a board because your opponent can't destroy it faster than you build it. And in some cases they'll cuck themselves out of being able to destroy it at all.';

'>>92592487
Why would UW control ever be playing their removal at sorcery speed while you're untapped? You play SSS and they just wait until your turn to snipe it. And then you protect it. And THEN they remove it at sorcery speed on their turn. There is no world at all where UW suffers from playing a High Noon against SSS.';

'>>92592425
yawgmoth and murktide aren't decks you should expect to pick up and get easy wins, they're strong but they give you a lot of agency, one small bad decision can be the difference between losing and winning some games
goryo is pretty straightfoward though, maybe you just got bad matchups or bad variance

>>92592486
>what does it even do other than the book thing?
it's a saga deck, you pump out karnstructs while controlling the board with asmo, the opponent either needs target hate or get over/under it with a combo';

'>>92592487
Your casting 1 spell per turn at that rate and all they have to do is get to turn 3 and drop the Temporary Lockdown to clear up the board, also forcing you to spend more mana again limiting kill potential.
Also Sunfall Exists if the game gets to turn 5-6 wich with a high noon it might.';

'>>92591068
>Pauper will be fine, right friends?
lol
lmao even';

'I'm so tired of Pioneer metagame anons... And worst thing i really have hopes seeing the busted OTJ cards, but MKM is just too insufferable.';

'>>92592532
>it's a saga deck
oh';

'>>92592486
You can do basically anything from mono red aggro with Bolts and Galvanic Blasts all the way to super grindy BG cat-oven memes. RG aggro with Break Outs is great. You can put in W6 for recycling Boseijus or Urza's Sagas for value. Inti is amazing. You can put in a cheeky Goryo's Atraxa package in. Insidious Roots is slow but often game over if it sticks. Best card in the deck is Urza's Saga in any version, it's honestly more important than Asmo every time.
Putting 4 Asmo, 4 Cookbook and 4 Daredevil in a deck makes it worse but it's so fun I don't care.';

'>>92592625
what are you playing?';

'>>92592722
Mardu Heroic.';

'Well well well. Your boy just made it back to having a number by his name in arena. Playing skeletons. Get fucked ssscels';

'>>92592743
that's rough, I don't expect any updates to that deck in bloomburrow, you'll have to ride on the slickshot show-off wave to stay relevant for a while';

'technically, isnt everyone a planeswalker now that the omenpaths are open?';

'>>92592796
talking of cute animals i expect bloomburrow to open a new archetype but i don't see really supporting any already existent archetype';

'>>92592707
>or sagas
oh';

'>>92592744
You guys are playing constructed?';

'>>92592872
The Omenpaths were just a convenient story excuse to justify the blackening of every world when it was hilariously hard to justify it in previous worlds that shouldn't have 70% of the population be joggers, IE Eldraine, Kaldheim, Shadows over Innistrad, etc. Now they can blacken every world and just say "Lol, omenpaths :)"';

'do they still print cards for 4+ mana? i feel like 3 mana spells that don't win you the game are a waste of time';

'>>92593277
They were under no assumptions about having to justify anything. They just did it and said “problem, white boys?”';

'>>92585202
Is it a good card to play against Affinity decks in Pauper? (I'm playing Burn deck)';

'>>92593321
i forgot about the picture';

'>>92593277
literally not the reason. they didn't care about that, they've been doing that shit since theros without needing "an excuse." you just want to complain about some bullshit and pretend like every change they make is due to "diversity" or some shit. it's more like "players love thalia, but we can only make thalia cards if we are on innistrad!" this way they can have any popular character show up on any plane without needing to come up with some hamfisted explanation as to how they got there in their attempt to use the popular character to garner more interest. it also reduces the amount of planeswalkers they need to print, because very casual players did not understand them and kitchen table edhbabies hate them because they cannot be their commanders.';

'>>92593354
oh hey new pasta';

'>>92593354
And they made an official alternate art nog thalia anyway';

'>>92593414
lmao you don't know what constitutes a good pasta, fagottini.';

'>>92593321
>>92593341
smash to smithereens is better if you're playing burn';

'>>92593433
eh, it's not really that. it's a reskin top to bottom. it's not like they changed thalia. now kambal... kambal went from old indian man to black man in his 30s.';

'>>92593512
Your example of something not being changed for diversity's sake was taking a character who is an Englishwoman from the 1890s and making her black? Are you retarded? lol';

'>>92593512
Black. People. Built. India. And. The. Taj. Mahal. The least mtg could do was take that usurper people off they cards and replace them with strong black characters. Why do you cave people pigskins have to insist on deleting my peoples incredible history?';

'>>92593512
wtf why is minority representation even not safe anymore? I loved the old bastard';

'>>92593551
no, that's not what i was saying. i was saying the omenpaths wasn't their excuse for diversity, because they are just doing that anyways without an excuse. also saying they aren't just switching established characters like thalia, because the mina harker reskin isn't changing thalia. kambal is my example of them changing shit for "diversity." you just live with the diversity boogeymen living in your head rent free and can only view things through that lens because you are brainbroken. sorry.';

'>>92593606
Cuh he a coloniza. All dem pipo livin I’m India now stole dat land from da black man. You Gon pretend you didn’t know day boy?';

'>>92593615
>they aren't switching established characters
Do you not know who Mina Harker is?';

'>>92593627
mina harker has never appeared in any magic media before. again, you are brainbroken and cannot see you complaining so heartily is part of the dialectic that makes them feel justified/necessary doing the things they are doing. everytime they do this to a mina harker or an aragorn or whoever, it is literally bait that you cannot help but chomp at every time. quit being such a faggot.';

'>>92593654
>mina harker isn't an established character
hello pajeet

>it is literally bait
What makes it bait, Rajesh? Go ahead, tell us.';

'>>92593673
there's no america in the planesverse';

'>>92593654
Here is my issue. Unironically. I genuinely dont care when they have diversity. Sisay was awesome. Teferi was cool before became a boring stick in the mud. Crovax has always been probably my favorite character. MTG did a great job at having deep complex diverse characters. Now it’s just done for the sake of it (saheelis lesbian storyline, I’m looking at you). The diversity becomes the core of the characters. That’s boring. That sucks. And race swapping established white characters like Aragorn? Why? What is the point? It becomes hamfisted and stupid. And lazy. That’s my main issue.';

'>>92593688
Vryn is unironically the most American-esque plane. It's got a lot of 'Great Depression-era America' vibes.';

'>>92593688
I can't say the color in that context or I'll get jannied again';

'>>92593664
>mina harker isn't an established character
didn't say that, just that she isn't in magic. magic has no responsibility to be 100% faithful 125 year old script, nor should every adaptation strive to be exact. if i wanted the exact same shit everytime, i would consume the source material.
>What makes it bait
because as you complain you bring eyes to the product. then, others feel a moral obligation to defend the product from "racists, homophobes, etc. etc." the defense brings more eyes to the product. discussion often wraps around these culture war bullshit issues, then any actual criticism gets deflected as just coming from the "deplorables." you are brainbroken and probably underageb&, so it might take you some time to understand this. but you actually do them a service by complaining about race swapping and centering the conversation on that.';

'>>92593734
>has given up all pretenses and just admitted that yes, they are following a diversity agenda but it's just to annoy 4chan chuds
pajeet is getting desperate lol';

'>>92593734
Why won’t you respond to my sincere criticism that is grounded in decades of playing magic?';

'>>92593744
i never said they weren't following a diversity agenda, i said that omenpaths weren't an excuse for it. because they don't need that as an excuse. you are an absolute retard.';

'>>92593766
I have never seen someone crumble so hard under the weight of their own argument lol. You are not being paid enough to be doing this, rajesh.';

'>>92593654
She isn't a Magic character period!';

'>>92593777
They likely are a shill. They 100% have no idea who sisay or crovax are and that is likely why they couldn’t be bothered to reply to a legitimate good faith criticism';

'>>92593777
except i said this shit at the very beginning
>they've been doing that shit since theros without needing "an excuse."
you are just a brainbroken retard who thinks he's smart. you aren't. go back to school, kid.
>>92593754
this one? >>92593703 didn't see. but yes, i agree. it is lazy and hamfisted. i could write a whole dissertation on why they did it, but it's pointless to do here. it goes far beyond magic, and im not going to explain literal decades of cultural shifts and economic forces that got us here.';

'>>92593815
>didn't respond to me so he must be a shill!
how? i literally explained how the people who screech about DEI do a service to the consultancy firms and ideologues who preach it. if you and the other anon cannot read between the lines, i am trying to tell you that the strategy of crying about it turns you into the villain that the preachers need to justify their existence.';

'>>92593837
It’s actually not lazy at all. It was deliberate work by a lot of people to make it happen the way it did. Deliberate and malicious';

'>>92585497
For me it's this one.';

'>>92593803
changes to the source material is okay for adaptations, expectation that everything follows the source material to a T is both unreasonable and unwanted. if i wanted the source material, i would go to the source material. the best adaptation of romeo and juliet is the baz luhrmann one and it has guns and cars in it, lion king is a good macbeth adaptation even though none of the same language is used and they are animals.';

'I hope we get a new Kaya in Bloomborrow !

She is not my favorite walker but I want the game to FIRE!';

'>>92593905
That's because it's in a modern setting. This Harker clearly isn't.';

'>>92593905
You're accidentally pointing out the problem again.';

'>>92593933
you would still complain about the same mina harker in a modern setting, lets be real.
>>92593943
what am i "accidentally" pointing out? because i don't think there was anything accidental about what i said.';

'>>92593928
Nah, but you are getting gay Otter instead anon-kun.';

'>>92593972
>you would also complain about a diversity agenda if the diversity agenda was still being pushed in other settings too
big brain pajeet';

'>>92593972
Keep moving that goal post and you're going to wind up in Brazil';

'>Shitskin foaming at the mouth over his own game of semantics
High Jump Kek, this was hilarious to read. Even funnier when he couldn’t realize I left the page already and kept tilting at other posters lmao. And the omenpaths are absolutely the reason for future sets getting diversified when earlier sets were “creative renditions”. Return to Lorwyn will definitely have the Kithkin completely blacked with Aunt Jamila oh lawdy Jesus faces lol';

'>>92589444
Holy fucking pilpul.';

'It's happening, SSS is finally on the front page of the goldfish Modern metagame. At this rate and rate of adoption it'll be a top tier meta deck before too long, and all because of a single stupid card.';

'>>92593986
again, complaining so loudly and so crassly is creating the villain that the DEI preachers need to justify their existence. you take the bait, like i claimed, and because of that the beatings will continue until moral improves.
>>92593994
haven't moved shit. my original point was that omenpaths weren't an excuse for a diversity agenda, because they already did that shit before. they never needed an excuse, because it was already being done. it is for a different PR/marketing purpose, which i already said.';

'>>92594139
Trudeau isn't Indian, he's Cuban. Or at least his father was.';

'>>92594143
oh yeah? then explain this.';

'>>92594139
not what i am saying, i am saying your strategy at fighting it is not actually fighting it. you are feeding it and making it stronger.
>>92594143
nah, he's indian';

'>>92594157
>noooo stop fighting! killing your enemies means they win!
lol';

'Could Phoenix conceivably run SSS? Wanting to do a lot in a single turn is basically SSS in a nutshell.';

'>>92594169
you aren't fighting it, you are crying on a mongolian throatsinging forum.';

'>>92594185
>if you're doing something right now then that's all you're doing
Damn they weren't joking about your people's inability to think on a conceptual level, were they?';

'>>92594169
Don't be so rash as to let others point your enemies out for you, youngling.';

'>>92594202
>youngling
you're 22 mate';

'>>92594124
>temur
Huh?';

'>>92594211
Zero interaction in the mainboard, too.';

'>>92594124
>Slickshot and Dust Animus both 2drop Plot creatures
>you’ll be dead from SSS long before you can even attack with Animus for the extra boon casting ability
White eternally and systematically cucked every time.';

'>>92594211
It's izzet that splashes green for Pick your Poison';

'>>92594223
This looks like infect but shittier if you wanna go for t3 glass cannon kills';

'>>92594254
You're right anon, everyone doing well with it isn't as smart as you. Groundswell is just as good as Lightning Bolt.';

'>>92594125
Sure seems like you're moving';

'>>92594254
Why /mtgg/ is so fucking bad at this game?';

'>>92594269
that's because you're drunk and the room is spinning.';

'>>92594124
>Below mill
Oof';

'>>92594124
Is mill really that good?';

'>>92594572
>>92594555
Anons people have only been playing SSS for a week and that's the 30 day meta.';

'>>92594174
it would be a fine sideboard option for when you have to race against lotus field for example, but in the maindeck it would feel bad since it and ledger shredder are the only things your opponent have to worry about pointing removal at

if you dedicate more spells to protecting it, you end up in heroic/prowess territory so you might as well play that';

'>>92594597
SSS as a sideboard option sounds gnarly. Bring in that and your Spell Pierces.';

'>exile all cantrips
>exile cavern
Nice pile bro';

'based 527';

'WHERE ARE MY SLICKSHOTS, TCGPLAYER JANNIES';

'>>92595006
:3c';

'>Killed a fellow green player with the red bird of doom
The life of a Gruul is very conflicting sometimes. I need the red airpower, but fuck does it feel cheap sometimes. Where do I do penance?';

'>>92594124
Why is Crashing Footfalls so fucking high';

'>>92595312
because sorcery speed rhinos backed up by free interaction is still good';

'>>92595324
It'd be a lot higher if Modern players weren't such meta whales.';

'>>92585202
been messing around with one of the mtg simulator and was wondering about something:
Is there an easy way to see cards depicting things from an older plane? By that I mean like if you wanted to know how many new lorwyn/shadowmoor related cards have shown up since the block came and went.
I imagine there's no easy way of doing so, I've just been going of the wiki and location names';

'>>92594223
why no Rift Bolt tho';

'nuMagic seriously be like
>1R: Exile this card with three clock counters on it.
and expects you to know what it means';

'>>92595432
>1R: Exile this card with three cock counters on it.';

'>>92595432
well it would exile and have three clock counters on it in exile. another ability would describe what to do with those clock counters.';

'>>92595496
>well it would exile and have three clock counters on it in exile. another ability would describe what to do with those clock counters.
nah senpai they're Clock Counters, you can pay 2 mana at sorcery speed to remove one from an exiled card, and when you remove the last clock Counter from an exiled card you may copy it twice and cast both copies without paying their mana costs.
Don't you know the rules?';

'>>92593905
Lion King is not a Macbeth adaptation you illiterate nigger.
In order to be an adaptation of Shakespeare, the script needs to remain unchanged. People who give a shit about Shakespeare do a much better job gatekeeping than we did so they can actually flat out reject garbage that doesn't meet their standards.
Lion King is a story that is 'inspired by' or an 'homage' to the play but is not an adaptation. Luhrman's Romeo + Juliet is an adaptation which is why it calls itself 'William Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet' and not 'Two Families Fighting in LA'.

You are also a double nigger because Lion King is trying to ape Hamlet not Macbeth.';

'>>92595487
>on your turn, you may masturbate. If you cum before you get warned for slow play, you may remove a cock counter from this card. When you remove the last cock counter from this card, you may copy it as many times as you masturbated this game and cast the copies without paying their mana costs.';

'>>92595636
>In order to be an adaptation of Shakespeare, the script needs to remain unchanged.
no. it only needs an unchanged script if it hopes to appease your autistic ass. adaptations are allowed make changes. lotr movies killed saruman and cut out his whole final arc of going to the shire. who complained about that? no one. make aragorn black? riots. make eowyn black but eomer white? crickets, with a few autists like myself as an exception. everyone complaining about aragorn being black but complained about nothing else literally only care about retarded culture war bullshit, they do not care about "respecting the source material." same with mina harker. i have never met a single person who deeply loves and cares for bram stoker's dracula original text, and get upset at coppola's adaptation for the changes it made. the screeching is just because of a black person, not because a change was made at all.
>You are also a double nigger because Lion King is trying to ape Hamlet not Macbeth.
my bad, i mixed up something. doesn't change anything else i said. lion king is an adaptation of shakespeare, but a loose adaptation. if your retarded definition of "adaptation" only includes the most rigid, strict, by the books recreation of the source material, then there is absolutely no reason to even do any adaptation because you just want the original thing.';

'>>92593905
Lion King is stolen Kimba, the White Lion';

'>>92596000
We complained about everything.

I also complained about Bombadil being removed from the films.';

'I gained 30 life with Sheoldred, exiled the graveyard, drew 2-3 cards each turn with Bankbuster, thoughtseized 4 times, played insane amounts of removal, and still lost because my opponent was playing Amalia so he was always able to put faggots on the board at instant speed, drew half his deck twice, and ended up beating me to death with a merman that kept making tokens to pump a 1/1 flyer. How is this fair? I was literally answering him every turn gaining 6 life and drawing 3 cards and still lost.';

'>>92596000
You are correct. We only want good adaptations.

>>92596003
The similarities between Lion King and Kimba are superficial. It's like saying Blade Runner is a ripoff of Indianna Jones because they both star Harrison Ford.';

'I am not up on the lore of the game now. Did Jace do something with that baby Yoda creature to unPhyrexianize himself? How? So the entire Phyrexianized planeswalker shit actually didn't matter to this extent? Basically fucking nothing stuck?
Why do you people still subject yourself to this?';

'>>92596202
which baby yoda? the cactus one?';

'>>92596208
There's more than one? What the fuck...';

'>>92596202
Only compleated planeswalkers were able to be cured because they were pretty heavily set-up as being saveable in some way. Jace saved himself mostly by struggling for mental control of his body long enough to knock himself unconscious until the invasion ended, and inducing a hyperactive fever response in his body against the oil, and then getting healed by his mom. Loot has nothing to do with that, Loot's just got a map of the Multiverse in his head for some reason and Jace (and Vraska) are using that to help enact SOME ominous plan involving 'rebirthing' the Multiverse because they've concluded that constantly fixing things will NEVER work.';

'>>92596037
>We complained about everything.
don't pretend the backlash/complaints of people upset at changing saruman's story or skipping past bombadil were at all on the same level of screeching from people upset at 5c aragorn. the majority of people screeching about aragorn in mtg do not care about the source material and are larping because they want to find excuses to complain about black people. if they actually cared about retarded race swaps, there would have been a much bigger backlash for the eowyn/eomer thing, but no. they literally just do not care, and likely do not know the characters besides the main fellowship. hell, i know a ton of people didn't even realize peregrine took was pippin, but that didn't stop them from complaining about black aragorn for not "respecting the source material."
and again, let's not pretend adaptations are not allowed to make changes, or that they have to be rigid, 1:1 recreations, because then you are literally just getting the source material and there was no point to the adaptation. every adaptation ever has had to make changes to the source somewhere.
>>92596110
>We only want good adaptations.
same, but it is okay for changes to be made. it is in the specifics of the changes that determine if something is good or not. aragorn being black is not a meaningful change, i do not care. it does not make it better or worse for me. the eomer/eowyn change actually IS retarded, and should be complained about.
>>92596155
>What is the reasoning for this change?
i already outlined that. it is outrage bait for people like you as part of the PR/marketing strategy. and you can't help but chomp at the bit.';

'>>92585262
Correct take. Planeswalkers were the beginning of the end.';

'>>92596326
Nah';

'>>92596288
>People don't actually get mad about this kind of thing.
revising history now? people were shitting themselves left right and center. you, and all the seething you and yours did calling it cringe, gay, and retarded, was noted and used as justification for why they did it. "because this space is unsafe/needs more diversity BECAUSE the gamers respond like this." twitter, reddit, youtube comments and videos, the retarded 5 paragraph "culture articles" from rags like kotaku all discuss this new fight in the culture war, but the discussion has NEW PRODUCT at the centre, constantly putting it in peoples minds. any criticism of the product, even legitimate criticism, can now be deflected as just being from "assmad chuds."
>especially to a fanbase known for autism
you do know that not all autists are the same kind of autist you are, right? you realize many of the autists are the san francisco/seattle type of autist, right?
>And to appeal to who? Twitter faggots that don't even play Magic.
yes, UB is all about appealing to people who don't play magic. hasbro needs new blood. and it is working.

you are extremely retarded if you think it is a bad marketing strategy.';

'>>92596247
>aragorn being black is not a meaningful change
There are already black people in LotR, and the Dunadan aren't among them. Making the elves black is also bad, because being black as an elf means you've been subjected to evil magic and turned into an orc. This change only serves to create confusion. It's like making the sky green in a serious political drama and declaring that it doesn't matter because you don't care. It's very similar to the way Thunder Junction adopts the trappings of the American Old West, but going out of its way to avoid explaining why this has happened in an interplanar multicultural melting pot.';

'>>92596419
Jannies will just delete my post so I'm not going to waste my time. You are wrong, gay, dishonest, and retarded.';

'>>92596428
>There are already black people in LotR, and the Dunadan aren't among them. Making the elves black is also bad, because being black as an elf means you've been subjected to evil magic and turned into an orc.
again, this is an adaptation, not a 1:1 recreation. none of that is so integral to the plot that this adaptation (even if it's loose) is now "confusing players on the plot of lotr." you know what's more confusing? trying to get the "plot" out of a random assortment of cards, and playing three gandalfs at once because you drafted a jeskai deck with the grey, the white, and friend to the shire.
>It's like making the sky green in a serious political drama and declaring that it doesn't matter because you don't care.
unironically, having a green sky does not matter. could be green because of colour grading for emotional/tonal effect. could just be a stylistic choice. the sky being green doesn't necessarily take away from a hypothetical political drama.
>It's very similar to the way Thunder Junction adopts the trappings of the American Old West, but going out of its way to avoid explaining why this has happened in an interplanar multicultural melting pot.
no, these are very different things from doing a direct adaptation and making a few changes. im not gonna sit here and pretend like wotc did a good job with thunder junction, when they actually kind of just took a shit on native americans and first nations peoples (not the first time they've done it either). but this is not the same as black aragorn, that's a retarded comparison.
>>92596474
you literally prove my point that it is bait when you can't help but string together slurs upon seeing it.';

'>>92596428
I like how they went out of their way to say Thunder Junction had no sapient life to avoid parallels with Indians but then put in the sapient cactus people and only had them become sapient when outsiders arrived on the plane.';

'>>92596551
>none of that is so integral to the plot that this adaptation is now "confusing players on the plot of lotr."
There is no adapted plot, as you pointed out yourself. They didn't make a new version of LotR and make cards based on that, they made cards based on an amalgamation of the books and the movies, and changed a bunch of the characters in ways that don't make sense.
>unironically, having a green sky does not matter
It would be incredibly distracting. People would wonder why the sky looks like that and why the characters don't care about this bizarre deviation from the norm.
>these are very different things
I was comparing two things that have no in-universe explanation when the base assumption is supposed to be "there is an explanation for the way things are"';

'>>92596910
>in ways that don't make sense.
for the vast majority of people, making them black is not confusing. most people don't know the lore of the dunedain, or the haradrim, or whichever other race. only those who are the most entrenched in lotr know about all that, and if they cannot read and infer the changes in the mtg version, then they are retarded. don't pretend the average person complaining about black aragorn are complaining because him being black "makes the lore confusing."
>It would be incredibly distracting. People would wonder why the sky looks like that and why the characters don't care about this bizarre deviation from the norm.
you say that, but you also don't have a frame of reference. as it is hypothetical, it might be accept it might not. give me a real, concrete example and then we can discuss your point. as it stands you are posing a vague hypothetical and how hypothetical people would respond to it. pointless discussion point. like i said, it might just be green because of colour grading, might be green for tonal/emotional effect, whatever. your hypothetical is too vague to be able to make a point, and you assume everyone else is a bumbling retard.
>I was comparing two things that have no in-universe explanation when the base assumption is supposed to be "there is an explanation for the way things are"
stupid comparison between things that have nothing to do with each other.';

'>>92596910
>noooo it is so confusing because they made the haradrim white! how could they fuck up the lore this much! im so confused at the plot/lore/world now!
said no one ever about the films.';

'>>92597073
Why are you still arguing with this retard?';

'>>92597052
>The lore
The weird changes in the cards doesn't confuse the lore of LotR, the confusion is "Why did they do this?"
>you don't have a frame of reference
They used the wrong art for Aragorn, and it was very distracting
>things that have nothing to do with each other
They are both examples of botched world building

>>92597073
The Haradrim are a large category of people that range from "swarthy" to "dark skinned", their depiction in the movies was fine. If you want to criticize the movies, most people reach for how they mashed multiple characters into Arwyn, Haldir and his army fighting at Helm's Deep, and removing the scouring of the Shire.';

'People need to take a step back and remember, this is just a game. Yes, Aragorn was never black. Likely, neither was any other named character. This makes the product feel like bad fanfiction to you? Okay, don't buy it. I didn't buy it either since it panders to a group to which I am not a member. We have reached an era where WotC is printing so much product that it wouldn't hurt to skip some, or most of it. Remember they said it themselves: This product is not for you.';

'>>92597222
Unfortunately, you are at a significant disadvantage in-game if you choose to not buy their shitty products. They compensate for their failings by pushing the power level of cards and forcing them into relevance.';

'>>92597237
The two most powerful cards from LOTR feature generic characters and the iconic One Ring, so 'characters being wrong' isn't really a factor.';

'>>92597237
so play a different game if it bothers you so. stop talking about or thinking about magic. or else the beatings will continue until moral improves. again, i said it already, going on rants about how it is "unacceptable to have a black aragorn" or whatever is expected. it's all part of the PR/marketing strategy, and you fell right into their dialectic trap. this is truly a "the only winning move is not to play" moment. or you can call me a retard and pretend what i am saying isn't true, keep complaining as you are, and keep the dialectic going.';

'>>92597264
You're still supporting the product as a whole when you buy those cards. Retailers have to buy the whole thing for you to have access to those singles.';

'Is this where we're at now? "Yeah it's shit but that's just the way it is so accept it?" Why are Magic players so fucking pathetic and defeatist?';

'>>92597282
This.
If the game is rigged against you from the start (not the card game, the marketing) just dont buy it. The thing you once loved is over. Dont drag the cadaver any further so you can look down on the decomposing, mangled mess the carrions are picking on and feel a resemblance of ye olden days. The people who once gave it to you are not interested in what it became, they are interested exactly in you dragging that thing with you for another year paying for it.
Thats just like Blizz/Funkopop-SW drones who continue to consoom and want new product even though it has become cancer incarnate a decade ago.';

'>>92597375
Even Blizzdrones have more self respect. WoW has fucking collapsed.
Now I want to go on a WoW rant.';

'>>92597306
>so accept it
literally not what i said. i said walk away from it if you hate it so much, because the "fight it" strategy is retarded when you are still lapping it up and buying cards and going to events, and when it hasn't worked despite people trying the "fight it" strategy for over a decade now. it didn't work when you guys complained about black people on greek world, it isn't going to work now. there are a million and one things you could be doing that are more constructive than playing magic, but you let it live in your head rent free. worse than that, you pay them. and, like i already pointed out, you justify their decisions in their mind when you are so vitriolic. but despite your hate for the product, you literally can't stop yourself from supporting the brand by buying it and spending your free time talking about it. you exacerbate the issue by responding exactly how they expect you to respond. defeatist? no, i just see things how they are, i am not holding any false idols or propping up brands/stories as things that are infallible, perfect things, that must be preserved and given respect. if i want to respect lord of the rings, i will respect the novels. the mtg cards are something different, and complaining about it in the way you are when you complain about raceswapping only serves the PR/marketing team of the game. you must learn to let things go and learn to create things that you like/care about.';

'>>92597287
Then don't be retarded and proxy them. You can even lighten the faces and make Aragorn the "right color" again.

You don't actually have to buy from WOTC or the secondary market to play this game.';

'>>92597456
you are still supporting the game. you are talking about it, driving engagement with the product, providing play partners for players who DO buy, etc. there is no good move to make if you do not like what the game has become other than walk away. you disengage and ignore the product, or you keep engaging with it in some form and pretend you aren't supporting it even though you are.';

'>>92597500
The trick is to not play/buy it and continue to make fun of it publicly as well as those who play it. Just dropping out is gay. People have been just dropping out of Magic en masse since Mirrodin and it hasn't done anything. You have to not just disengage from product but then actively shit on it so everyone involved is shamed.';

'>>92597282
>>92597375
>>92597412
>>92597500
I'm not going to just stop playing the game that I like. I will publicly tell people that things are retarded and concisely tell them why it's retarded. Nothing will ever get better if you just give up and leave. If a majority of players are unhappy but nobody says anything, then nobody will know that a majority of people are unhappy.
>but you're driving engagement
Not all engagement is good engagement. The harder WotC has to work to spin their narrative, the better.';

'>this card was a chase mythic';

'>guy in local legacy groupchat says that edh is "a great format for new and the existing players"
>someone else says he's going to an event this weekend to play commander "not for actual magic"

>>92597375
I've drawn the parallel between premodern and WoW private servers before and I think it still stands strong.';

'>>92597744

9 years is a long time';

'>>92596224
HAHA IT'S NICOL BOLAS TIME AGAIN';

'>>92597958
ALL PART OF HIS MASTER PLAN';

'Nicol Bolas's only crime was loving his brother too much.';

'>>92598061
why isn't this card 'all players draw ...'
it'll be so much better
marko your designs suck balls';

'>>92598175
Because it's an edh card and 3 mana for making yourself effectively go -7 in group card advantage is not good.';

'>>92598188
What if it was one mana? Is Ancestral Recall balanced if everyone gets to do it?';

'sheldon mener-ACK';

'If I play Standard Scapeshift at FNM how should I handle all the fucking tokens the deck makes?
Should I have an entire separate Deckbox full of Token Proxies of every land in the deck?
Playing this deck on Arena is easy, but I imagine this thing is a fucking nightmare in person.';

'>>92598175
because a rendezvous is usually between two people.';

'>>92598175
Because then it wouldn't be a crime since it doesn't target an opponent.';

'>>92585248
Elspeth, Knight-Errant is her first and best version.

>>92585497
Whenever I hear Kaya;
https://tasteasianfood.com/coconut-jam-kaya/

>>92586070
How can a nymph have no melons?!?';

'New thread
>>92598809
>>92598809
>>92598809';

'>>92597282
I've played this game longer than you've been alive. "Play a different game" isn't an end all answer.';

'>>92594223
Didn't that exact same list exist up until now with the Khenra Spellspear instead and was similarly quick to end the game?';