'I don't know about percentage, but I'd say you can learn many things that require degrees for no reason at all.';

'>>58421263
No. That makes no sense. Maybe some individuals are capable of learning most things, but in general some people just aren't good at certain things. I had threads that ask stupid questions.';

'>>58421267
based and true
college is a scam for the most part';

'>>58421263
From my experience, yes. I have a masters. My job doesnt need a degree. Its easy as fuck.';

'>>58421263
>>58421283
Same. My job could be done perfectly well by a competent and organized highschool-educated person, but I only got it by having a Master's degree.
The specific ins and outs of a role, particularly for many white collar office jobs, are solely the domain of that role and not taught in a university or elsewhere.';

'>>58421263
Can be taught to people of a certain IQ level and/or other inherent abilities, sure. The idea that any person can do any job is ridiculous. One of our largest problems is that we have overeducated too much of the populace that now expects elite positions they aren't qualified for.';

'>>58421263
He's right but this isn't the answer, employers want to hire people with some kind of base skills, and that's what college should offer, base skills, cut all the fat...all the stupid and worthless courses designed to "balance and round things out" when really they just exist to milk more money. Nobody should be going to school for more than two years unless you're going to be a doctor or engineer and it should cost more than half a year's salary for the field they want to enter.';

'>>58421263
School isn't directly about educating. It's about indoctrination, how to listen to a boss and be a good slave to prepare you for American brand of corporate debt-slavery';

'>>58421263
Yes';

'Griggs vs. Duke Power made giving prospective employees an IQ test functionally illegal.

Because
>this person is smart per our test and can probably just be taught
is walking yourself in to a discrimination lawsuit, the only way to try and filter out dummies is through tedious degree credentialism.';

'>>58421378
>made giving prospective employees an IQ test functionally illegal
Since when? I've had to take IQ tests in the recent past for code monkey roles. Albeit mind numbingly easy ones, maybe they were trying to filter out Indians from applying.';

'>>58421404
Was it only an IQ test or did the position have other qualification requirements? Because if it falls under the disparate impact theory (e.g. all the blacks who take it fail and can't get the job), you can be sued for violating the Civil Rights Act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co.';

'What the fuck is that supposed to mean? 100% of jobs can are are taught.';

'>>58421414
well you are extremely low iq and somehow are trying to filter people (including you) with an IQ test that doesn't actually mean anything. So what exactly arguing for?';

'>>58421419
He means that 90% of jobs can be taught on the job, i.e. you don't actually need prior schooling.';

'>>58421650
>IQ doesn't mean anything
>the difference between Somalia and Japan is just down to vibes';

'employees want long term resources and the best way to predict this is a college degree or some experience';

'>>58422262
it's cultural. japan has a culture of having a higher IQ...';

'>>58421263
I'm not in the business of giving people free training just so they can leave.';

'100% of jobs can taught. That's why people go to school and study. I honestly don't understand the point of this retarded post. You deserve a lifetime ban for this stupidity.';

'Hell yea';

'>>58421263
nah he is gay
but as long as you know the job I don't see the problem, I mean, I have a lot of knowledge in programming and I'm still stuck in the same low paying job for 6 years, the only good thing I have out of this is a vinu bag ffs';

'>>58422438
The guy holding the sign is saying that school is a waste of time because it ill-prepares you for white collar jobs and these jobs themselves can be learned while working. In other words, markets would be more efficient if employers trained employees, and doing such a thing is possible.';

'>>58421263
No one took the time to teach me how to get into crypto, so I bought some MAGA TRUMP to start with something but now everyone is making fun at me';

'I was just trained to be a school bus driver and got my cdl, so basically I think yes

but I don't trust the guy in op and his motives

>>58421378
bullshit, you can filter dumbasses by just talking to them, listening to their interests and hobbies, their time preference etc, college degrees are basically all normalbait

you won't find the exceptional iqs there and you won't find dumbasses either';

'>>58421322
>My job could be done perfectly well by a competent and organized highschool-educated person
The process of getting a degree is supposed to weed out anyone rarted';

'>>58421263
depends on the industry/job. i dont think its 90% but its way more than hiring managers and roastie hr managers would admit.';

'>>58421263
More like 75%. STEM jobs aren't just taught. You need to have the brains for it';

'>>58421263';

'>>58422366
I'm not in the business of giving managers 100% just so they can outsource';

'>>58421263
yes interviews are basically a flip of a coin if you get someone willing, let alone good at their job. if someone is keen to learn they will be a better employee than someone that is already good. so many good candidates are lost because they cant do x... i have taken on coders that dont know the language over other experienced devs because they have the right attitude.';

'>>58421263
As someone that has interviewed a lot of candidates for the company where I work, no he's not right. He's implying that people basically perform the same in 90% of jobs, but I've had shitty junior employees and great junior employees.';

'>>58421263
When I was a wee lad working in a shipping department the manager could not get the minority hires to put the labels on the corresponding packages to save his life. They would input the dimensions of the box and whatnot, print the label, and then place that label on a totally different sized package. It was an astounding feat of retardation.';

'>>58421277
This applies to the top 20% of people.
The other 80% can learn something here or there, or are not capable of learning anything useful at all.';

'>>58421267
99%';

'>>58421263
This is what everyone learns in the workforce. Some people like to learn, finding motivated people is the hardest part of hiring';