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'I hate that this artist deleted all their old shit.';

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'Finishing up with a household name.
That's all from me (for now -- I've been trying to find a cute ram boy in my folders but he's elusive...).';

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'Also, here's the more attractive Re:Zero trap (sorry Felix)';

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'guess I have to post on the QUESTIONABLE SEXUALITY thread on the GAY BOARD';

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'Now that the original thread is archived, I imagine people will start moving here. Guess I should start posting with who originally awakened me to the majesty of traps';

'>>3861755
For me, it was this boy. Seeing "Ashley" on TV as a kid really awakened something deep inside of me.';

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'It's better when they're noticeable male instead of the old generic draw girl call boy shit. Now it's has become worse since troons like self inserting as them now';

'>>3861755
It was Ciel for me.
(I said no shotas in the OP, but he looks pretty adult/teenaged here.)';

'>>3861905
Agreed.';

'>>3861905
I don't really like "draw a girl, call it a boy" either, but the way I handle those feelings to ward off tranny bullshit is instead to appreciate the characters who only "trap up" instead of permanantly being a trap. Not that I hate characters like that (Hideri from Blend S comes to mind) but generally I prefer when a character has to put in effort to look like a girl, especially since that's closer to real-life crossdressers and not totally innacurate to reality (although the end result may well look like a girl anyway).

That being said, I think completely disregarding the original intention of the trap archetype just because of trannies is doing a disservice to those of us who simply like girlish boys, and of course the original "trap" of being tricked into liking a male character who appears female. Trannies may be obnoxious and stupid but those of us who simply like traps shouldn't be condemned for their sin of retardation. I think blurring the lines of gender is a noble cause, as long as men are aware they're men underneath all the makeup and dresses and don't delude themselves into thinking otherwise.';

'>>3861916
Have a few extra pics for that wall of text.';

'>>3861917';

'>>3861905
for me I tend to prefer the more feminine ones. I still want them to identify as male and be actual characters though. If it's just used for shitty jokes about how they look like a girl then I could do without. Like that Hideyoshi Kinoshita Youtube kept recommending me videos of. Pretty much every scene followed that format and there just seems to be nothing to his character otherwise';

'>>3861918';

'>>3861919
Hideyoshi is an old one and atleast he looks a little more boyish however. I agree though the show is lolislop and Hideyoshi's character is the only thing moderately palatable about it.';

'>>3861919
>for me I tend to prefer the more feminine ones.
>I still want them to identify as male and be actual characters though
You're just like me. It's extremely rare for a trap to exist past being a trap though, which is disappointing.';

'>>3861929
That's why I initially fell for Ion. The fact he's a trap is never brought up. He's just a fairly feminine male but is otherwise just another character in the story. I also just prefer girls to guys outside of traps so them being feminine is what I like';

'>>3861930
He's a cutie pie anon...good catch.';

'>>3861929
On the subject of Astolfo, it's pretty interesting looking back at art of him from before FGO was a thing - you can tell through people's art that he actually was, at least, a proper character. almost demure. But FGO flanderized him into being "lol quirky draw a girl call it boy!" character, basically codifying the worst type of trap, and a lot of the nuance of who he is as a character is completely lost on the majority of weebdom.';

'>>3861933
Yeah, definitely. In the original LN he was both a plot driver and a good source of optimistic light-heartedness amidst all the Type-Moon typical edge. I really enjoyed him (him being a cute boy was only a plus)...

Seeing him as a le funny monster can femboi 'boykisser' caricature is a bit frustrating. But expected: that's what happens when characters get big, shitters and secondaries roll in.';

'>>3861876
I'm glad Danbooru still tags him as 'male'. The new design is super cute.

It's impossible to discuss him on social media anymore, though...';

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'>>3861931
Plus who wouldn't love what is basically the pope of his world but a femboy';

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'Why does /c/ allow couples but /cm/ doesn't. I can't post his best ships with Anise and/or Arietta';

'>>3862435
That's not but a loli. Nothing remotely /cm/, or even trap about it';

'>>3862799
You mean Ion or Anise/Arietta. Ion is 100% male';

'>>3862809
Just post cute boys and ignore detractors.

>>3862435
>/cm doesn't allow couples
Huh? I've seen couples posted all the time.';

'>>3862811
I'm just going based off what >>3279425 says about heterosexual couples belonging on /c/';

'>>3862824
Oh, I didn't realize you meant het.';

'>>3862809
Of course I mean the one in your pic, Ion as you said, it looks like a Jun Watarase tier loli being passed as a trap';

'>>3862827
Here's an in game screenshot so you can judge if its the character or the artist';

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'>>3861067
Irl otokonoko are starting to use shady hormones the same way HRT femboys in the west do so boybooba is starting to become a thing in their art';

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'>>3863035
this artist is a woman (real) and traps have been drawn with rounded pecs since po-ju and patalliro. it’s just hot. and it has nothing to do with trannies';

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'>>3863246
I mean the hormone stuff is popping up in their doujins
>trannies
Western femboys seethe if you call them that and also claim to hate troons. I wonder if irl otokonoko also get mad.';

'>>3864402
>Are they disgusting? I'm sorry I ruined the m-
yes they're disgusting you proto tranny, traitor of male supremacy
get rid of them before it's too late';

'>>3864424
Do you think otokonoko would also get mad if you call them trannies?';

'>>3864402
>I mean the hormone stuff is popping up in their doujins
Disgusting.';

'>>3864402
Might as well just go full futa if they're that desperate for tits on their boys.';

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'>>3864566
They drew them with them already it’s just showing up as the in manga explanation now
>futa
Artists probably want characters that say they’re male and don’t have cowtits or blatant curves which is why they went with otokonoko
The chemically neutering themselves probably has some fetish value too';

'>>3864431
yes and I honestly don't care. I like boys whom I find cute of any kind, could not care less about political diahrrea vomit. But I don't like the hormone tits, they're really disgusting.';

'>>3864598
I like traps, women, and futas. I don't really like the idea of traps taking hormones. Goes to much into trans territory for me. Hell trans wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the political diarrhea' vomit they insist on making their entire personality. It's less about them being trans and more about me not wanting to associate with someone I constantly have to walk on eggshells in order to not accidently offend them';

'>>3864598
Doesn’t have anything to do with politics. It’s just what happens in a subculture has started showing up in what long running BL artists do
>>3864818
The irony is femboys deny being trannies and rage if you tell them using hormones makes them, idk if otokonoko are the same but it’s obvious both think of themselves as men';

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'>>3864852
>Onee-san type (male)
Based';

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'>>3862019
Just hit them with the truth. It was a marketing ploy to expand Guilty Gear to a "wider" audience generated by ArcSys's newly opened California office. Yeah, it was Ishiwatari's decision to have their "cute character" slot.be filled in by a guy, but the actual character writing and design was done by someone else.

Youtuber Dimitri Monroe's video, [Guilty Gear XY: The Bridget Retcon Investigated | A Buried History Unearthed], does a great job of pouring over interviews, articles, data analysis, and cultural influences.

Link with all the evidence https://youtu.be/0Cadgm2t5wo?si=Jpg-GhNa5BLBl5tX

Tl;dw: it is not possible for Bridget to be Trans, but Bridget is Bridget, done trying to.prove himself.to other people.';

'>>3861905
I prefer at least slightly masculine to girl(boy) too. Especially if they just sound like a guy. I don't know why, but I have a lot of respect for that type of thing.';

'>>3868729
Fuck off with promoting your shit you he/him tranny, all we care about is how we cannot call one and the first one of our favorite boys in drag a boy anymore, and how agp troons such as yourself must be euthanized, not whatever social brainrot phenomena you might want to babble about. Dimitri.';

'desperately need help looking for a manag/doujinshi about a crossdressing blonde male who was wealthy and had his own harem. Women were attracted to his scent/hormones. They eventually end up spending time on a beach. Over arching story is about him falling for a girl that doesn't respond to his scent iirc. I believe it was created late 00s or early 10s.';

'>>3869347
> he/him tranny
NTA but HRT femboys are hilarious. Especially if they’re the red pilled variant';

'If a femboy has to resort on HRT then he isn't a femboy anymore.';

'>>3869904
Feminine twinks are extremely prone to twink death if they’re natural
Can you blame them if it’s so easy to go undead twink and keep your looks?';

'>>3869907
I think growing from a twink to a hunk is the natural state of life, people get old eventually anyway.';

'>>3869967
Just like the Death in Venice';

'>>3869907
i'll never get why people think hrt is some mystical magical feminizing potion kek...it's not like a male can ever even slightly resemble picrel (or a female period) without a whooooole lot of plastic surgery. even then, it's obvious it's plastic surgery irl.

nevermind that these are 2d drawings with only a tangible connection to reality (e.g. the fantasy of a boy that's nearly indistinguishable from a girl)';

'>>3870022
It will never give anyone looks but looks are much easier to lose than gain and it aborts the quickest cause of twink death.
Some people might think being able to keep a baby face is worth some chest tumors.
>>3869967
Men in the bottom 10% of height and size don’t have the ability to make that pivot successfully.';

'>>3869967
This. It is even how it happens.';

'>>3869347
>a post that agrees with the "bridget is a boy" position
>"grrr fuck off tranny shill I don't care DIE DIE DIE GET EUTHANIZED" as the only response
??????????';

'>>3870275
You expect people to read on this site?';

'>>3870275
Me agreeing with that position doesn't mean I also like the reasons why some certain other subgroups also agree with that position. Dimitri.';

'What?';

'>>3870470
I like redpilled femboys because they’re ironic. Especially the ones that are cutting it dangerously close to trooning.';

'>>3870480
anons are arguing about some stupid game character, one anon (terminally online) linked some video made by a has-been obese femboy famous for being a fag with opinions. The other anon is annoyed because it's off-topic discussion and shilling, but was enough of a retard to reply anyways.';

'HRT proliferating throughout western femboys and then to irl otokonoko and then to manga versions is hilarious';

'I didn't check here for a long time and... yeah, that's about what I expected.
Think we should move back to /d/?';

'>>3871235
either way is fine with me. This would be the only thread I'd be coming to /cm/ for';

'Has trap-bara schizo war ended?';

'>>3871249
yes, actually. The schizos all moved back to the race/ethnicity autism.
t. /his/fag diaspora who cannot tolerate his own board anymore';

'>>3871249
>>3871315
Shh, don't jinx it!';

'>>3871315
>/rh/ - Religion & History';

'>>3871236
usually there's many /cm/ threads you could find for your taste though. The bishonen/trap separation is one big meme, just look at the evangelion and the (kurapika) hxh threads for example.';

'>>3871522
eh, I'm not really interested in guys unless they're traps though. At most I'd go to the Chihiro and Felix threads';

'>>3871249
The war ended after they decided to kiss';

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'>>3864576
source this for me pls';

'>>3871863
https://myreadingmanga.info/hontoku-yoru-no-aokan-kouen-eng/
Just keep in mind the blonde has boy booba';

'HRT has never made a guy's face look better, you get someone aging as a woman (lol) but with a male structure which makes them look like a uncanny monster

The larger male skull gets filled with extra fat in areas which makes their heads look retardedly large and unnaturally shaped. I've seen cute twinks turn into 5/10 fat faced slags, it's a shame but anybody stupid enough to do it deserves it

I guess retards are fooled by the "before and after" pics because the "before" is usually before they even tried to look good in any capacity. Look at trannies 5-10 years after HRT, they hit the wall harder than women and men combined';

'>>3868729
>makes the same rehashed arguments
>makes another copy of the video once he gets ratioed and rebutted with actual lore
Did you know Dimitri likes 16 year old wine? Look up "Dimitri Monroe 16 year old"';

'>>3863246
Nice gaslighting but no. Real women aren't into trapshit';

'>>3862019
>>3862021
HER <3';

'>>3871235
Good riddance. You were never welcome here or in /y/ anyway';

'>>3861067
Thank you for this blessed thread of transgirl positivity <3 Transgirlxtransgirl is especially hot because it's yaoi and yuri in one! And as they say, the best yaoi is yuri and the best yuri is t4t girls';

'>>3877064
>>3877065
>>3877066
>>3877075
>>3877076
your skin has the color of shit
haha we won';

'traps soothe the corpocuck pain';

'spreadsheets and crm bro
>4 second cooldown';

'>>3877066
This. Holy fuck are trap fags obnoxious.';

'>>3877076
calling them tgirls doesn’t really matter as tgirls are still male kek. there is no difference between she/her dick and he/him dick';

'>>3877167
>enters kitchen
>complains about spoons in the spoon drawer
sucks to suck i guess x';

'>>3877066
>>3877167
butthurt damage control samefag lmao long live trap bussy forever and may God save them from all the different filths like troons and honorary troons attempting to damage them #savetraps #trapbussy #godblesstraps #alltrapsgotoheaven #something';

'>>3877176
the way you samefag your own bait is insane btw';

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'>>3877191';

'>>3877106
>>3877168
>>3877176
Twink death is inevitable. Enjoy your "femininity" while you still can';

'>>3877210
what makes you believe we are twinks?
>you are what you like
i guess straight men are trannies then since they apparently want to be women?';

'>>3877213
So you admit traps are canon trannies. Glad we could get a confession';

'>>3877214
troll fail';

'>>3877190
>>3877191
>>3877192
i wonder if it's fujos yumes or regular ba fans drawing these';

'>>3877248
@curry0124 btw';

'>>3877249';

'someone's cute oc
@samedayo0626';

'>>3877214
Yo get your vagina oout of every trap thread fujoshit lolcow roastie';

'>>3862019
Pixiv artists still tag him as male too, the only things that don't are autogynephiles looking for representation that isn't as ugly as they are irl.
>>3877075
Inciting raids is against global rules as is mass-quote spamming. Ywnbam.';

'>>3877415
>>3877416
just ignore and report her back into her hole';

'>>3871235
No, just report the troll and stop replying to her.';

'>>3877214
>female
>fujoshit
>salty
>annoying
>hates traps for whatever fucking reason
haha go fall in a pit yuuko kinoshita. obscure reference';

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'>>>/d/10949595
Optional sister thread has been made. There's a lot of straight trap manga out there right now, I feel like it'd be a waste not to be able to discuss it cuz we're on the yaoi-exclusive board. So feel free to discuss it in the /d/ thread.';

'>>3877612
>sfw thread on a porn board
weird, just use /c/ for straight couple stuff';

'>>3877629
that'd block posting solo stuff and the pair stuff would still likely be met with disdain as the focus would be more on the male. These threads had some success on /d/ before trying them here';

'>>3877612
>>3877634
Have fun, I have no interest in seeing porn, personally.';

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'>>3877642
k- kieran?? [spoiler]a better look than what the indigo disk did to him[/spoiler]';

'Series: Tensei shitara Dainana Ouji Datta node, Kimama ni Majutsu wo Kiwamemasu';

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'>>3878720';

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'That's a loli';

'>>3878727
>loli(male)';

'>>3878729
stop replying to the fat bitch trans troll';

'>>3878727
I wouldn't even call that a trap. It's just a boy in a dress';

'>>3878778
they can’t help themselves

her fujo pussy is too good';

'Any love for these niggas?';

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>>3878818
Belongs in the shota thread';

'>>3878778
qrd?';

'>>3878854
nta but it’s a covid tourist ftm sperg that shits up cm and y threads because she hates both bara and traps
even her own foid safespaces like lolcow and fujochan make fun of her';

'>>3878868
Lmao';

'>>3878868
Man are you serious? that explains why the fudan thread was so shit.';

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'>>3878932
yes';

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'>>3875641
It’s only useful if you have a feminine face to begin with. It doesn’t change bones but it keeps them from getting fucked. Antiandrogen mono could do that to but eventually takes a toll on health.
Done right and with good skin care it means keeping a baby face kid look forever(?).

The easiest way to compare who came out on top is to compare 1st gen femgen with Chris Crocker who ultimately trooned after getting ultra masc (which was hilarious since masc4masc had been shilling him as a successful example of manning up).

Are there potentially gross side effects? Yeah.';

'>>3879021
>>>/lgbt/ with your mentally ill blogposts';

'>>3879021
>Chris Crocker
Wait that was a man? The more you know.';

'>>3879021
Femgen is a collection of mentally ill young men who lost their minds taking too much HRT and will probably troon out in a decade like everybody else who bought into using estrogen as a stylistic choice. After seeing one of them commit suicide it became clear to me that that community is a lost cause.

Begone.';

'>>3879021
>>3879030
Stop samefagging about offtopic 3dpd shit you fat sperg.';

'>>3878714
>5 year old torso on 13 year old legs
why';

'>>3879030
> Begone
No u
And if anything they’re the opposite of trans since they say they’re male and not trans and just want to keep things the same.
>>3879025
What makes it funny is he trooned right as everyone said he won by chadding it up.';

'>>3879025
Did get surprisingly manly on the outside. It’s funny because he trooned (and looked like a joke) a month after the https://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/leave-britney-alone-star-chris-crocker-unrecognisable-and-hot-36684618.html';

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'>>3879032
People sure will be seething about this for entire season. Fun';

'>>3879518
it just looks proportionally retarded desu, you can give a shota thick thighs without making it look like he had cement injections in his ass';

'>>3879520
I think it looks normal. I have deffinetelly seen art that has way more overblown proportions. Hell the art that was posted in Girly Shos thread for this has way more overblown proportions. The actual anime looks normal.';

'>>3879522
The real weird thing is hilariously tiny arms, but no retards will seethe about thighs which arent even that big.';

'>>3879520
So is he gay or straight?';

'is seethe back to being the buzzword of the month for retards?';

'>>3879524
He's asexual, he only cares about magic and never gives his harem any attention.';

'>>3879544
>of the month
Try decade';

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'gretel's a bit sexy';

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'>>3879560
he's like 10.';

'>>3882887
Not mentally, he's reincarnated, the cliche case of an adult in a kids body.';

'>>3881909
nice';

'Kenma technically isn't even a trap but there's a couple artist and this one in particular that draws him much more fem than he actually appears';

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'>>3884203
>>3884204
>>3884205
Yeah because the artist literally made him a girl, like he has a pussy and is born as a woman in all of her art of "him"
Not /cm/';

'>>3884603
Huh, seriously? Do you have any proof? I thought he was just feminized in m00kie art.';

'>>3884727
She did a bunch of stuff with him being pregnant and when asked if it was mpreg she said he has a working vagina and uterus.
Also that it wasn't cuntboy or omegaverse.';

'>>3884603
/cm/ doesn't have a rule against trannies that's /y/';

'>>3885130
It's an unspoken rule that only actual boys are allowed here, all that other shit belongs in /d/.';