String fullTitle = 'worst ‘creative’ job you’ve worked';
int postNumber = 453050;
String image = '1708470441548294.jpg';
String date = '02/20/24(Tue)18:07:21';
String comment = 'curious what kinds of things u guys have done.
ive had a lot of random ‘creative professional’ side jobs to carry my weight while doing my own work.
recently got fired from my university’s print/design shop upon graduating bc they decided to get rid of non-student positions. only stayed bc i was going to get a 2x nonstudent raise and am gullible. unknowing last day was secret santa and had to gift my boss.
most degrading though was being an instructor at a few of those paint and sip places. never felt so psychopathic';
'>paint and sip
not sure i could survive that';
'>>453055
yeah im gonna need you to cover this kids birthday shift. just 2.5 hrs 30 kids and youll get $28 bro. also the ac is out and it’s 99° upstairs so just make do.';
'>>453056
fekin lol';
'The only creative work I've ever really hated was where it involved clients who didn't know and/or couldn't articulate WTF they really wanted until you tried showing them some possibility and then they *instantly* became 1000% certain that what they wanted had nothing to do with *that*.
Bad enough at a conceptual level when pitching ideas for logos and such, but some amount of back and forth is expected and tolerable, as long as it's in good faith and you're getting paid.
But the absolute worst are the motherfuckers who insist that they can't really picture the proposed work until it is mostly complete and then after OKing it at every earlier step reject it and assume that that's perfectly OK as long as they pay for it....it's a waste of my time and talents, and in many cases just a mind fuck akin to having POWs dig holes and then once they are 'done', fill them back in.
It's very common in fields like decorative painting and murals, and I've walked away from jobs where people waited until weeks of work were completed just to change their minds and decide that the colors and designs that they agonized over and had total control over choosing were wrong.';
'>>453064
i feel you. a friend is still working prepress/design at that print shop and getting walked all over.
the holes thing, yeah. working for a uni was interesting because the only clients were staff and students. SO many incompetent fucks with tasteless personal projects that would fuck up any portfolio. i always made variants in the hopes people like my take on their brief but they just want to feel in charge. i get not knowing what you want, it’s convincing me you do know what you want and getting cold feet when you see what it is.
we also had the worst policies around charging design time there. we had a client design-and-dash a poster they had us editing for 13 billable hours. we also had a lady insist she needed a 70” vinyl banner rush printed without proofing, we gave it to her and she wanted a refund and free reprint because she spelled the only word wrong. it was mostly a nice job though aside from pay, i’m easily entertained and don’t value my time';
'>>453064
>>453068
Man, most printers get the shaft in retail. I own a print shop. I started charging design time and got a lot less indecisiveness. Between the machines failing and the customers ignorance it's really a difficult job.
The best way I found to deal with these kinds of people are to
A: Get them to sign something. When they approve a design and it comes out badly you have proof that the fuck up was on there end.
B: Have them pay for your time, cheap scapes usually love to complain and talk for hours and generally wont if it means a higher price. Get a fixed rate up (say 20 mins) front and have a clock on you both can see. I guarantee you'll see a difference in demeanor.
C: Never refund anything. Give "in store credit" or "discounts on your next order" as incentive to work with you again rather than a free job.';
'>>453050
I make kebab shop signage';
'>>453416
highly based anon with actual business experience here. I've been fucked over too many times as a freelancer because I'm retarded.';
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