'>>16590083
Brothels/prostitution is legal in most of the world.';

'>>16590083
They’re still not that difficult to find';

'>>16590083
Only cuck countries don't have brothels. I'm a spic and go to the brothels/strip clubs at least twice a year. Faggots';

'>>16590099
>>16590103
>>16590109
I mean firstie countries obviously';

'>>16590118
Nice bait, most 1st countries its also legal, apart from the the "land of the free"';

'>>16590083
>Could it be they paid an important role in society?
Spreading disease isn't an important role.';

'>>16590138
Yeah...
Sometimes I think Americans just didn't get the memo when they were younger that told them that everything means the opposite of what is says.
Land of the Free
No Child Left Behind
Freedom Caucus
Defense Department
Separation of Church and State

... Everything becomes so clear if you just reverse it.';

'>>16590118
Yeah obviously its legal in much of Europe, probably the most famous brothels in the world are in Amsterdam, with close competition from Las Vegas. But as far as the rest of the US goes, blame the same puritanical movement that got alcohol banned in the entire country.';

'>>16590138
>>16590154
not at all true';

'Porn or feminism. Probably both.';

'undefined';

'STDs and diseases';

'>>16590083
Prostitution has been proven time and time to be problematic. It's awful because it sees women as just a means to an end for sex, and exploits abused women. Women who were from broken homes need help, not a way to continue the cycle of abuse.

Not only should prostitution be illegal, but it should also be illegal when there's a camera involved (pornography).

Legalizing prostitution just makes it easier to force women and children into prostitution. A lot of child sex trafficking rings flourish in places where prostitution is legal. There's a ton of forced prostitution in pornography since porn is a legal form of prostitution.

Making porn illegal would be a huge first step in fixing modern day men and revitalizing chivalry among the masses.

Less prostitutes=less fatherless homes=less broken girls and boys incapable of creating loving and nurturing families.';

'>>16590241
What isn't true you fucking retard? Prostitution is legal in 90% of first world countries. Kill yourself american scum.';

'>>16590399
>Prostitution has been proven time and time to be problematic
Can you post 100 examples of instances from countries where it's legal that it is ""problematic"? Otherwise....shut the fuck up, lel.';

'>>16590467
Even if you are a male, it's plainly obvious that prostitution of all kinds (including pornography) has had no benefits to humanity';

'>>16590146
>Department of War renamed to Department of Defense just before the US started exclusively fighting wars of aggression';

'>>16590358
Weird that they were only outlawed in the era of much easier and more widespread treatment of STDs.';

'>>16590146
>>16590138
Its legal in Nevada doebeit';

'>>16590083
tl;dr - women gained more and more political power and acted to preserve their control of the market.';

'>>16590516
They were outlawed after disease outbreaks in different places. Read a book.';

'>>16590138
>Brothels are legal != Legal Prostitution
Standard procedure in most of Europe is the Nordic system to criminalize buying sex, not selling it. Johns still can't just waddle in freely everywhere.';

'>>16590083
all women are whores now';

'>>16590498
Sex Work is legitimate unless you are a sex negative person.
>>16590399
This is very disingenuous. Presenting the argument that all sex work is some evil horrible thing, it's really refer madness-tier. Like saying all marijuana use turns you into a freak schizoid who can't function or benefit society. Should weed be legal? Maybe, or maybe not, but presenting the counter-argument as this cartoonish caricature doesn't help either side of argument. Not every sex worker is abused. And while most sex workers don't have PHDs or come from uber-wealthy families, that's just to expected from any profession which doesn't require an education. It doesn't speak anything of their personal lives or family life that they come from working-class or lower-middle class backgrounds. Legalize it, tax it, regulate it, done.';

'>>16590616
Marijuana isn't the same as pornography. There are some fringe cases of people developing issues that may or may not be related to marijuana, but pornography and prostitution is notorious for being a net negative for society.

>Not every sex worker is abused
Even if 10 out of 100 prostitutes aren't abused, you still have to account for the fact that prostitution is unquestionably a dangerous, miserable career. There have been clear studies that show that well over half of the people engaged in pornography and prostitutions show symptoms of PTSD, and the amount of times prostitutes and pornographers are raped is appalling. Most people who enter prostitution come from broken homes. They need help learning to love themselves and see themselves as more than just a body to be used, not punishment in a dangerous and unfulfilling field of blatant exploitation.
Pornography/prostitution consumption is just as bad. Has no one ever stopped to consider marriages are failing in large part to pornography/prostitution addiction? How many people have developed dangerous paraphilias because of hardcore pornography exposure?

Porn and prostitution offers NOTHING positive to society. At least marijuana has been documented to help with some diseases. What good has pornography done for anyone?';

'>>16590467
Most countries aren't like the USA. There's too much wealth inequality for it to work. Just imagine all the poor minorities around the USA. Pimping would be huge and tons of girls would be selling their bodies just to make ends meet. Law enforcement would also be horribly ineffective at regulating these brothels to make sure everything's clean.';

'>>16590118
Strip clubs are, for literally all intents and purposes, brothels, and they are completely legal in America.';

'>>16590981
Strip clubs are degenerate, trashy places. But prostitution is not allowed in there, try as the disgusting dog patrons may.

>t. former strip club employee';

'>>16590154
>>16590401
Prohibition should have stayed in place, degenerate Europoor.';

'>>16592095
That's nice, now excuse me while I nut into this LEGAL prostitute I hired LEGALLY
>tfw she will even give you a VAT receipt after the fact';

'>>16590616
>sex work
Are you a woman?';

'>>16590602
Great, got any suggestions?';

'>>16591542
>>16590981
Escorts are legal in the USA';

'>>16592253
Strippers are not technically the same as escorts. If you attempt to solicit a stripper the worker can report you to the police, or her employer can.';

'>>16590083
Brothels only tended to be tolerated when they were seen as nessesary, innevitable or even beneficial. Often this is not the case. I for one am for brothels being owned by prostitutes and former prostitutes rather than pimps. Keep them in certain districts where they can be controlled and kept in check.
Banging a prostitute is also leagues better than porn. At least prostitutes arent available in 3 seconds using your phone, and if they are you still need to go out and bang them.';

'Bros will there be prostitution in heaven? I want to get laid but don’t want kids.';

'>>16592293
>I want to get laid but don’t want kids.
get a vasectomy';

'>>16590083
short answer: religion and state';

'>>16590648
>They need help learning to love themselves and see themselves as more than just a body to be used, not punishment in a dangerous and unfulfilling field of blatant exploitation.
They'd end up using onlyfans and whoring themselves on tiktok anyway';

'>>16590083
>Why did brothels go from ubiquitous to totally illegal?
It's actually the opposite. They have gone from illegal to ubiquitous in places like Australia, New Zealand, Germany, Australia, Netherlands and Switzerland. Even strict Singapore has designated a particular areas as a zone of tolerance where brothel are allowed. These days it's mainly fundamentalist Islamic shitholes where it's illegal.';

'>>16590083
Leviticus 19:29
“‘Do not degrade your daughter by making her a prostitute, or the land will turn to prostitution and be filled with wickedness.';

'>>16592366
Jewish desert book is relevant how?';

'>>16590399
>Less prostitutes=less fatherless homes=less broken girls and boys incapable of creating loving and nurturing families.
first of all, prostitution is illegal in the US and there is an abundance of fatherless children. second of all, how retarded do you have to be to live through the US losing the war on terror and the war on drugs and still think that if only the government would make [x] illegal then surely [x] would go away? and finally I can’t understand how someone can think it’s a good idea to place the power to determine what’s morally right or wrong into the hands of a bunch of corrupt pedophiles.';

'>>16592283
That is absolutely retarded, when you get off to pornography that's done in five minutes and completely safe. You go out to a brothel you're wasting over an hour, about a hundred dollars, risking infections and taking advantage of broken lower class women.';

'>>16590975
>Just imagine all the poor minorities around the USA. Pimping would be huge and tons of girls would be selling their bodies just to make ends meet.
Well, sheeeit, nigga. That would be truIy dystopian. I can't imagine that ever happening in our oh, so progressive You Ess of Ayy.';

'>>16592382
>prostitution is illegal in the us
Only when there isn't a camera involved. Porn has absolutely destroyed American families. Not to mention, porn, unlike non video prostitution, is highly accessible to minors. Most young boys these days get their dopamine receptors and their views on women totally fried when they are in the single digits. Even worse, it's on internet porn. These are boys learning about shit older generations went their whole lives never knowing about. Tons of trannies actually got their start from sissy/hypnosis porn. What do you think the violent porn and the actual rape porn that ends up on big name pornsites do to developing young minds, anon?

ALL prostitution needs to be banned.';

'>>16592876
>Blaming pornography not the feminist promotion of whoredom and antagonization of masculinity for ruining young men
Yeah definitely a woman';

'Brothels are fairly common here in my city in Australia but most of them are filled with Chinese girls who are not attractive to me personally, and it's all very expensive.';

'>>16592972
I heard the jobs like driving prostitutes around for brothels is big $ I knew someone that said they used to rake in just shy of a grand working three nights a week from 10 to 4 in the morning this was in ausland.';

'>>16592969
"sexual liberation" "sex positivity" and misandry is not real feminism. That is just shit co opted by capitalists, femcels, and sex traffickers.

You probably think feminists support trannies in womens spaces too.';

'>>16592379
The Most High knows best.';

'>>16593406
>co opted by capitalists
The rockefeller family has been financing feminists for over a 100 years at this point. It has been co opted right from the start.
also:
>no true feminist fallacy>>16593406';

'>>16593521
Do you autists think you sound cool when you say cringy things like this?';

'>>16592876
>ALL prostitution needs to be banned.
you wrote that whole post reiterating that it’s bad and therefore should be banned, despite the fact that my post was about how banning doesn’t work and therefore is a nonsensical solution. you didn’t address my comment at all.';

'>>16593703
The Ancient one knows all. He who relies on his wisdom will never fall.';

'Prostitution is only banned in female centered countries';

'The same reason they outlawed harmless drugs; To gain power over the plebeians. Cannabis was made illegal because they knew people would never stop doing it, so it allowed them to raid the homes of people they didn't like but otherwise would not be able to arrest or threaten. The people who were anti-war, anti-racism, anti-monopoly.

Making it so the majority of men can only get laid if they are successful workers in the economy is a great motivator for maintaining a workforce, and it simultaneously gives them the ability to keep men who are not afraid of acting against laws they don't want to follow under their control by making them criminals.

Brothels equalized men, having to pay for sex is much cheaper and easier than having to maintain a career and having to buy brands and other products that make you look appealing to the woman.';

'>>16592969
bro pornography IS the promotion of whoredom
>>16592557
now imagine how much worse itd get. Theres already tons of ways people get trafficked, like massage parlors and pimps. Legalizing prostitution would make it worse
>>16592382
its not a morality issue, its a not wanting poor young women to pursue prostitution as a career issue. If it got legalized I bet shit would go under the moment a white woman in a liberal state gets abused.';

'>>16592553
>Taking advantage of a broken lower class woman

It wouldn't be taking advantage in my case because I'm a broken lower class man';

'It's not healthy to have a place of disease incubation fester in a population. I really just don't understand the mind of someone that would want to have sex with a prostitute.';

'>>16594035
Good brothels STD test often. You're more likely to get an STD from a bar slut than a prostitute.

There are still as many whores, whether they get paid in cash or "dating" only there is no regulation on STD testing so they spread chlamydia around like wildfire, among everything else.

By your logic brothels should be legalized.';

'>>16593960
Many Greek philosophers, including Plato and Aristotle, supported the idea that certain races held different attributes and some were superior than others';

'>>16594064
Yes, philosophers are people too.

Especially in the old world, it was pretty easy to be racist. These days you have to be trying pretty hard to not think it just comes down to culture and education. You can find an example of genius or athletic brilliance, and whatever else in any race. There are Whites better at math than Asians, Asians better at sports than Blacks, and Blacks better at business than whites.

Being racist today is choosing to be ignorant of all the counter examples that you can find so easily now.

That doesn't mean generalizations don't exist, for example you could say blacks are often thieves who don't know how to spell, but that's also true for many whites, so it is obvious that class and culture is the true determining factor not race.';

'>>16594176
And those philosophers had the sense to question societal institutions and religion, but when it came to race they were suddenly overpowered by their humanity and couldn't help being racist?
>Being racist today is choosing to be ignorant of all the counter examples that you can find so easily now.
You choose to be ignorant of the fact that miscegenation leads to the dilution of erasure of phenotypes.';

'>>16593782
>banning doesn't work because bad thing still happens! Just look at alcohol and drugs!!
Oh for sure anon lets just make CP and murder legal because banning it doesn't work to eradicate 100% of it. I mean, drinking is the exact same as murder and child abuse!

If banning porn keeps just one underage boy from developing a fucked up relationship with sex and women I will still support it. Why are you so scared of making it harder for children to be sex trafficked and raped and have their rape put on your favorite jew owned porn websites, anon?';

'>>16594176
Yep, just like how most pitbulls don't maul and kill people so it would be perfectly sensible if a pack of pitbulls wandered up on you that you'll be perfectly fine and have nothing to worry about and don't need to take any precautions.

Or you could take measures to make yourself safer in a potentially deadly encounter. But you would be using generalisations and generalisations are racist as you said.

When presented with the unknown, a pack of pitbull, which you don't individually know the characteristics of each of those dogs. What should you do?
a) use generalisations to determine that this pack could be dangerous
b) get to know each of the pitbulls as individuals first before determining if they could be dangerous

If a woman has an encounter with a man at night, in an isolated place and if she used generalisations about men that men can be violent and rapists and murderers -- she would be sexist if she got nervous.';

'>>16594243
I take it you have a fear of pitbulls? If any pack of dogs wandered up to me I would be frightened. Though I'd care more about the dogs demeanor and behavior and seeing as these pitbulls didn't run up to me to immediately maul me but just "wandered up" I'm probably in the clear.';

'>>16594248
Pitbulls are the most dangerous dog, and I believe as a single breed they do more than half of dog attacks that result in hospitalisation or death. If it were a pack of pitbulls, or any large dogs I would be very concerned. If it were a pack of chihuahuas I wouldn't.

If I came across a group of blacks at night and I'm isolated and alone, likewise, I would be very concerned. But if I came across a group of middle aged white women at night I wouldn't be concerned at all.';

'>>16594199
Miscegenation leads to the creation of more phenotypes to be selected from, often resulting in much greater examples of the desirable traits in the source genetics.

The reason race was trickier isn't because of their lack of ability, it was because of the lack of diversity, one race often wasn't very present in their world, or came predominantly from one culture. Today we have many examples of mixed cultures and very diverse populations.

You can be racist if you want, but it is for sure a choice, otherwise what do you make of the black that is more intelligent than you or the white who is more athletic than you, or whatever race and trait applies, of which you can surely find many example if you cared to look?

>>16594243
I literally said generalizations make sense, it is racist to say all asians are good at math, because that isn't true, but it's generally a pretty good rule of thumb. Both things can be true, generally speaking I'll judge people on their character, usually race just isn't necessary to invoke for my generalizations though, if I'm in a poor area and am walking at night, I'll avoid a group of men drinking on a stoop regardless of their race.

Dogs are typically bread to be hugely physically different so I would be more concerned about a pack of Pitbulls than a pack of Terriers, but a pack of roaming dogs is dangerous so I would be concerned with that circumstance regardless of breed, only some breeds like pitbulls are capable of doing a lot more damage due to their breeding specifically intended to have a strong biting force and not being easily scared off. I have also met pitbulls that are absolute cowards and wouldn't bite a rabbit, and labs who would maul rabbits. Typically due to their upbringing, which comes back to social factors like wealth and culture.';

'>>16594307
And those new phenotypes are just diluted, inferior and less interesting than the former phenotypes. The fact that white race characteristics can be bred out is all the justification you need to support racial segregation.
>otherwise what do you make of the black that is more intelligent than you or the white who is more athletic than you,
That's completely irrelevant to a statistic, a few outliers don't change a trend. You're an idiot to put it plainly.';

'>>16594307
The difference between the races isn't entirely a product of environment. There is a biological differences. The races are physically different, and it's a fact that they are so. You can see the differences with your eyes. The physical proportions of the brains are different between races. Is it so hard to believe that it's possible that the brains are different as well? It's also a fact that is well established by Charles Murray in his work The Bell Curve that there is a biological difference between the races and doesn't require belief.';

'>>16594313
That is not true, we can see in agriculture that the new phenotypes are often far more desirable, hence the original phenotypes no longer existing. Nobody wants to eat a small bitter apple that is more seed than fruit.

Only it's not a few outliers, and the further we develop and cultures merge and cities become more diverse we continue to see more examples. You not wanting that to be true doesn't make me an idiot.

Interesting llms.';

'>>16594333
Yes it is true, all brown races only come in various different shades for brown. The white races does not. therefore is is absolutely justified to want to stop miscegenation and dilution of white races.';

'>>16594323
That chart, if real, I wouldn't know. Would easily be explained by culture, wealth can change rapidly, but culture takes time, and even given lots of time, say a family who has been wealthy for many generations, if that family is a minority and the majority of their race still exists in a culture with higher acceptance of crime then it could still attract the kids from that family to engage in crime, although I'm sure it would be harder for each generation as family values and separation from the source culture strengthens.

>>16594339
If that's what you believe then that's fine with me. Personally I'm not going to worry about it.';

'>>16594352
It's not really a belief, it's more of a fact that different colors are worth preserving, and the means of doing that is segregations.';

'>>16594352
>culture
you mean how black culture discourages men to be present and active fathers?';

'>>16594352
>>16594370
>>16594323
Since we're talking about blacks.

Often racism and the legacy of slavery gets blamed for the poor performance of blacks in America. But no matter what country you find blacks in, like France, or other countries in Western Europe where there was never any history of African slavery -- blacks always have the worst social outcomes.

So explain how blacks are the same every country they're in. But it's not biological.';

'>>16594381
I mean imo Im not sure how much of it is genetic and how much of it is social. I'm not dismissing the idea of the former being true, that black people are genetically predisposed to chaotic, antisocial lifestyles.

But at the same time I have also met blacks who are calm, articulate, talented, and are hardworking members of society. The issue is that it's the exception and not the rule. And the rule for these exceptional blacks is they never "act black". They tend to take on more Caucasian or rather... universal patterns of speech and behavior.

Which is where culture comes in. Lets say you are born with your complete 'white' mentality, behaviors, and speech patterns but you wake up looking black and living in a black centric area with black peers. The second the other blacks see you not speaking in thick ebonics and dressing/acting 'hood' they will see you as a race traitor and will single you out, harass you, and potentially even kill you.

It feels like blacks have the capabilities of being a successful race, but are oftentimes oppressed by their own people.';

'>>16594403
Your complaints are a product of desegregation policy. To be upwardly mobile, socially as a member of the black community is to leave the black community and join a white community in America. So much black effort to climb socially is to just move into white communities, instead of establishing their own upper class communities.

African countries have a black upper class so it can be done. But it's not going to really happen in America as long as blacks can just more easily join the white upper class.';

'>>16590606
That's retarded';

'>>16594237
why are you convinced the government is your friend? they are jew-controlled pedophiles who hate you, anon. every new law they pass is designed to hurt you, and there is no way to vote yourself to freedom. the government is your enemy, and this weird neo-con idea that “if only we get *our* guys into elected office then we can turn this whole thing around!” is delusional and without any kind of historical precedent. in fact government involvement typically makes things worse, not better. even something that a dupe like you probably believes is completely uncontroversial and obvious, like banning child labor, is more harmful than helpful, as when children are working it’s because they need the money and banning child labor often just results in the number of children starving to death and being sold into sex slavery or participating in other types of crimes to soar and causes more harm than if children were still working.';

'>>16594618
>wants an industry notorious for abusing and sexually exploiting children banned
>anon thinks this means I am a pedophile.
Anon if porn becomes illegal and becomes more difficult for children to have accesses to, how is this going to help the porn industry. It will become less profitable, thus there will be less incentive for people to want to participate in the industry.
>how can you be convinced the government is your friend?
You retard, I have to exist with the government no matter what laws they pass. God forbid I want them to pass a law that will fight child exploitation and porn addiction';

'>>16590083
Prostitutes are Gross but should be legal. Porn is gross but should be legal. Even if it’s illegal it’s still easy to find a prostitute without being prosecuted. I sold and smoked weed when it was illegal. Who cares about laws? There inventions of mankind. Artificial.';

'>>16594665
you can’t even comprehend what I’m saying, and just keep repeating that the government should can something because you don’t like it.';

'>>16594870
It has nothing to do whether I like it or not. It has to do with the fact that it literally ruins lives and is destroying families. Children are being exposed to hardcore pornography and we shouldn't sit around acting like this is okay, like it wont fuck with young peoples heads and continue to ruin our future.';

'>>16590118

HIV killed the last remaining brothels in America.';

'>>16594920
why do you keep reiterating the problem, even though I have made it clear that my disagreement is with your proposed solution?
don’t bother answering, it’s a rhetorical question for you to ponder as I proceed to close the tab.';

'>>16590516
The start of the open crackdown on brothels and prostitution coincides with syphilis showing up in Europe. Someone noticed the correlation.';

'>>16592361
>Greek
>Spanish
Like, they speak the language? Or is this industry jargon for some sex act?';

'>>16590118
America is a third world shithole';

'>>16593521
>pretending to be retarded and not seeing that we are talking about what is, not what some book says should be.
in other words, who the fuck asked you for bible verses?';

'>>16593406
>You probably think feminists support trannies in womens spaces too.
TERF is a term for a reason, you know. the reason is that most feminists do, and those few who don't had to be branded with a new hate-term.';

'>>16590083
it was made illegal on places where they became scandalous for unsanitary and abusive conditions.

People weren't willing to live near establishments that straight up burned through women, and in some cases like my country literally kidnapped them';