'>be so arrogant to demand clean cut answers for absolutely everything on a silver platter, especially when others have already put the work in via thousands of years of theology and debate now more accessible than ever in youtube videos explaining the basic concepts
>just want to continue publicly making a fool of himself anyway posting bait and not giving sincere answers if someone replies earnestly

truly pride is the first and greatest sin. praying for you to soften your heart OP';

'>>16591551
>Thousands of years of theology
That theology doesn't prove a Christian god, merely a deistic god. For thousands of years no one knew about evolution, cosmology and the lack of evidence for the bible.';

'>>16591559
no dude, Christianity by definition is the fulfillment of the prophesized messiah in the Jewish faith, the Christ (messiah). The Jewish calendar being much older than the Gregorian, would mean that the whole idea of prophecy, of the Christ, is much much older than most people realize, literally thousands of years. It only happens that when we moved to the Gregorian, it would be Anno Domini 2024 in the Year of the Lord now that the messiah stopped by and said he'll be back later when it's time

but it is the same Christian God if you follow the Trinity. anyway at risk of more baitpost i might just stop replying but i still wish you well you know';

'>>16591572
Lol fulfillment. Everyone agrees except for the people to whom it was addressed. Ever thought it was one of those false prophets Yahweh sent to test His people?';

'>>16591541
>>16591559
evolution and helio-centrism has been debunked countless times already schlomo';

'>>16591603
Jesus met all the messianic conditions and performed all the miracles as prophesized, down to the last detail. This is the main official reason why modern Jews largely deny him as well, because the messianic conditions and messianic miracles are interpreted differently and were thus done not in accordance to their liking, by their own eyes and by their own judgement, when the truth is through God's eyes by just what happened. Consider as well that the first and early Christians were Jews for this reason: Christianity as Jewish fulfillment because they believed that it actually happened, the messiah came, a straight line from the house of David and Judah, not a fork, split, or spinoff from regular Judiasm, but Judiasm-as-prophesized-and-delivered.

It's also curious that you mention the concept of a test, because to many Jews that's what Jesus represented: A test. Hopefully you shall pass and see the truth that the messiah has risen to be exalted for all time in all nations';

'>>16591617
The only promise he made he didn’t keep, so no, he fails the test in Deuteronomy and should be ignored, in spite of his attempts to fulfill prophecy or the attempts of the authors of the gospels to invent stories about him to fulfill prophecy. You’re the blind one, awed by miracles instead of the truth. Even if he did rise from the dead, it does not validate his claims.';

'>>16591541
>magic rabbi in the sky
stopped reading here';

'>>16591619
Can you prove that truth exists?';

'>>16591541
why do christians believe in sky jews
that's fucking weird
are they dumb?';

'>>16591844
Sky jews?';

'>>16591849
Yeah, didn't jesus fly away into the sky? Sky jews';

'>>16591863
No you fucking retard';

'>>16591865
>No you fucking retard
So when Jesus ascended into heaven, he didn't ascend?';

'>>16591865
>>16591873
>Luke 24:51: Jesus leads the eleven remaining disciples to Bethany, a village on the Mount of Olives, and instructs them to remain in Jerusalem until the coming of the Holy Spirit: "And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he parted from them, and was carried up into heaven.
learn your own book, dumbfuck';

'>>16591876
Heaven isn't a physical location in the sky. I bet you still think that babies are delivered by storks.';

'>>16591876
>and was carried up into heaven.
>up into heaven.
>up
christcucks just make it up as they go along. It's hilarious.';

'>>16591910
You have a toddler's understanding of the Bible. You know that, right?';

'>>16591551
There are thousands of years of Buddhist theology too, and yet I doubt you've critically engaged with it, much less blindly accepted the claims of Buddhism because monks have written about it for a long time. And of course it would be stupid if you did. Having smart people who wrestle with complicated ideas does not make those complicated ideas true.';

'>>16591914

>no, see, up doesn't mean up, because...BECAUSE IT JUST DOESNT OK!';

'>>16591541
now lets hear your opinion about judaism islam';

'>>16591541
What i don't get is when Christians say "our god is the one true god", because if he really was, then why didn't he reveal himself onto the whole world, so for example, why didn't he reveal himself onto the 5 original first civilization, (china, indus valley, sumeria, Egypt, and the Andeans) no, but you don't understand, this random uncivilized tribe was better than most actual civilizations of the time, to spread his worship.
Like what?
"the one true god" dosen't make any sense.
Waiting until the nestorians, for china to hear abou him, when they could have already heard about him, WAY earlier, just makes me think either, he's not real, or he's a retard.';

'>>16591622
>>magic rabbi in the sky
>stopped reading here
Mate, the Codex Sinaiticus. The oldest complete NT bible refers to Jesus as a Rabbuni (Ραββουνί) Rabbi.';

'What did Jesus do in the cemetery with the little boy when he was arrested?';

'>>16591838
As a part of the structure of my reality, I cannot deny that objective truth does not exist at all, just that the interpretation of facts leads the human to make relations between objects in the world which are not necessarily unknowable to us, or at the very least, for the most fundamental things, we can largely agree on.';

'>>16592357
>we can largely agree on

is truth a democracy or a dictatorship?';

'>>16592371
Can you say that the sky is blue? There are certain things that our bodies cannot deny.';

'>>16592394
is the sky blue because everyone else says its blue or is it because it is blue? if the latter, how does one it actually is blue? if the former, how do the others know it's blue?

you see modern obsessive notion of objectivity is not always so cut and dry, therefore all the more nuance in matters of spirituality';

'Why do you single out cancer as if it's some profound evil? If you accept that death is necessary, cancer is merely one of many mechanisms by which death happens, I don't see how it's exceptional in any way.';

'>>16592397
Don't be retarded anon';

'>>16592399
It happens early';

'>>16592406
>The average age of individuals diagnosed with cancer is 66, according to the NCI.
?';

'>>16592399
>If you accept that death is necessary
in the bible, though, people don't die because they have to die, as far as I'm aware. Moses allegedly lived for hundreds of years because of his holiness and proximity to god. Death is a punishment for our sinfulness. We die because we sin. Therefore, we can only have everlasting life in heaven, when we have fully given ourselves to god and become without sin.
So, under christian theology, when a kid gets cancer and dies, there's at least an implication of deserts there. Of course the child had to die, he was a fallen being, mired in original sin. But obviously in actual fact it's almost impossible to justify the belief "that child deserved to die of cancer." That's so utterly evil and depraved, but yet it's what christfaggots have to believe, so of course people are going to press you on it.';

'>>16592439
You say that, but you should've seen the look that evil rat gave me. He was up to something.';

'>>16591541
yep, christcucks are retarded, moar news @ 11';

'>heh, wouldn't a God come to earth as a great conqueror with a golden crown robed in silk and sweet tribal tattoos carried by 1000 smurfs to do everything for us?
>you believe God came to earth 2000 years ago, born in poverty and lived as a humble carpenter who healed the sick and taught love, knowing full well the powerful would fear him, torture him and execute him and it is up to us to interpret what he meant by this';

'>>16591914
And you have a toddler's understanding generally, hence why you believe the shit in the bible.';

'>>16592484
Commie';

'>>16592491
Exodus 20:15
>Thou shalt not steal.';

'>>16591914
>it's a m-metaphor!!!1!
Christcucks when their worldview breaks down because of common sense and rational thought';

'>>16591541
Humble down op, you just have a monkey brain, why do you expect to perfectly understand the ways of the Almighty who created all the wonders of life? Worshipping God requires the utter humbleness to realize you are nothing before him. Realize this and fear him and he will make you understand what is beyond your comprehension.';

'>>16593120
Alhamduliliah, now humble yourself and accept Islam.';

'>>16591609
>Evolution and Heliocentrism are muh joos
Are Jews the only people that aren't completely retarded? It turns out they're the only ones able to do politics and conduct research.';

'>>16593121
Accept the ways of Shaddai.';

'>>16592484
Post chin.';

'>>16592155
It's kinda cosmic banter, selecting the most literallywho tribe of all time just to make it the most known tribe in the history of man, it's a humility filter.

I think it makes sense if you understand that "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

Notice "so loved" that is he loved the world in this specific manner, God could save everyone but he has decided only to save people who will believe in his son of the literallywho tribe, idk the mind of an infinitely wise God might go beyond our limited understanding.';

'>>16594745
>It's so stupid it has to be true!
I doubt you would give this same amount of faith to Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, or Hinduism, or heck even Dreamtime';

'>>16591541
When you ""think"" in these superficial modes, you're guaranteed to understand nothing and to sound like a self-impressed midwit 100% of the time. You are a dilettante of reason.';

'>>16591541
YHWH BTFO';

'>>16591551
>thousands of years of work in theology
>how can god be 3 distinct things and also 1 thing
>uh it's a mystery
>how can god be both completely a man and completly a god
>uh it's a mystery
>if god is all powerful why did his plan for mankind fail
>uh it's a mystery
>why is god gonna destroy the world if he could just fix it
>uh it's a mystery
>if god is all powerful and controls everything how do people have free will
>uh it's a mystery
>if god is real why doesn't he just talk to us, why do we need to write it down and trust your authority on it
>uh it's a mystery
a lot of really hard rigorous work. They definitely aren't just making things up.
>>16592484
>why would god not simply reveal himself to everyone, he's omnipresent right? why not be omniprescent in a way everyone can see
>oh i get it you want a big world conquering murderer. been watching andrew tate videos you roided up macho man?
seething with weakness';

'>>16592155
>implying God didn't reveal himself and that the nations didn't just turn to idols anyway';

'>>16592439
>in the bible, though, people don't die because they have to die, as far as I'm aware

Genesis 6:3
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”';

'>>16592155
There isn't a country on earth that doesn't have a bible anon.';

'Hey don't tangle buddha into this';

'>>16591559
And in one thousand years nobody will give a fuck about evolution and biology and people will talk about Charles Darwin how Goethe has been talking about Faust.';