'Money design, page prop, made other common fivtional items such as lottery coupon, adverts, magazine etc.

A3, pen and pencil';

'Bird from last night. Im getting better at avoiding cauliflowers and controlling the paint, every piece is more enjoyable';

'>>7118738
Wrong pic';

'>>7118736
nice, you phoned it in with the cap though';

'>>7118726
My dude is packing.';

'>>7118739
>>7118738
drawing on the bird is kinda shitty but i love how you did the branches and the hue shift in the background';

'>>7118769
Thanks anon, its the first bird I done so Im sort of ok with it being shitty by any concrete advice for the next time?';

'>>7118783
Don't really draw birds but it feels like the bird is just a blob with no structure. The head also seems big and the legs could read better.';

'>>7118757
>phoned it in with the cap
Oh yeah, absolutely but I feel like half-assing through details that non-artists don't even look at is much healthier than worrying over perfection

Being sloppy in a balanced way for me is being zen-pilled';

'>>7118736
I really like the anti-couterfiet touches with the red and blue circles, and am little jealous of people who can draw engravings. The hat is really the only detractor like this >>7118757
anon said.

>>7118739
How did you do the branches? Mask them off and do the background or vice versa? It's a really nice effect. I think the bird is ok, but could use some delineator between the body and head though I know when its cold out they can look like puff balls.

Here's a work in progress, I posted it in the draw thread and got no feedback, so I figued I post it here. The inking isn't finished yet, but any glaring issues I could still fix while it's in progress? This is on watercolor paper as I want to do some washes once the inking is complete. Excuse the shitty photo quality, I need to scan it for sure';

'>>7118813
Thanks, I really appreciate the pointers and gif, your version looks better

>>7118816
Sketched in the bird and some main branches, then the overall wash. Then masked off the bird and went to town with the branches. Then bird and finally foreground branches. I like your drawing. If you want you could fix that h bar, the cross section is really asymetric. I would have given one of the characters a face so the work has a subject, right now idk where to look';

'>>7118830
Thanks for the info on your process. You're right about the beam and flow for sure. I don't know if I can fix the asymmetric beam, but I could at least make it look damaged so it makes sense. The lack of faces (and bodies for that matter) is part of the narrative where all the living parts of the people have been converted to energy. Which I guess means they need to have some fingernails floating around too. However I'll keep the lack of focal point in mind as I finish up the inking and try to give it a little more coherent path for the eye to follow.';

'>>7118830
the change gave the bird a neck where it has none. The original was fine. Nordic longtailed tits are kind of known for being a literal ball with legs on them, so I wouldn't sweat it.';

'>>7118726
OP artist is so damn good';

'Been doing some more gouache nightscapes.';

'>>7119573';

'>>7119576
I love these so much! Could i ask how you got the shadows so black? Is this a gouache thing or did you use ink?
I keep wanting to vary my values but can never get enough pigment down with watercolours, always end up overworking the page.';

'Still slogging though my online Course.
Some stuff is explained very vell, others not.
My major problems is on how to work with thick.
I hate on how the fence came out.
Any Feedback?';

'>>7118816
Do you do commissions';

'>>7119573
>>7119576
Top notch stuff anon, I'm a sucker for chiaroscuro.

>>7119707
Not currently, can't really knock out pieces in a timely manner.';

'>>7119757
I would be interested in a series of very basic character sketches, uncoloured - if that changes let me know';

'>>7119698
So, I start these on black paper. But I still paint black overtop of it. By tinting my blacks the compliment of the colors around or just using the same color and deepening it, I can get sime very high contrast.

Also working in this one currently, and you can see how I make the black deeper as I carve out the subject.';

'Sooo, I think I might gain quite a bit by getting a printer/scanner. Are there good brands for relatively cheap?';

'>>7119916
ooh wow i see what you mean, great stuff!';

'>>7119699
What medium?

The fence looks bad because you smeared a bunch of the under layers with your stroke.

If this is oil then work thinner and understand that once you get to a certain point you can't layer anymore. Layering wet oil is hard. You really need to use Turp for the first layer for it to dry fast enough and be very deliberate with what you're painting. Also make sure you're using qn oil primed surface. If you can't you should just switch to acrylic or gouache.

If this is acrylic then wait 15 seconds for the layer below to dry and you won't have to lay it on so thick.';

'>>7120326
Yes I've used Oil. I've layed the groundwork with Burnt Umber. I went from thin paint to thick. Or I've tried.
But yeah the fence was smeared.';

'>>7120577
It's not just about thin layers, but also HOW you thin them. Did your initial blocking use paint thinner? It dries a bit faster that way.';

'>>7120582
Yes, I've used Gamsol as a thinner and in later stages I've used a bit of linseed oil to make the paint flow better.
Maybe I dragged to hard on the previous paint instead on putting the paint on top of the old one.';

'>>7118739
I think your bird is fantastic and others just don't get it.

>>7118813
Soul vs no soul';

'>>7120584
Then the other suggestion would be to not practice with alla prima techniques. Alla prma is kind of advanced and takes a lot of paint-handling experience to get right. Allow rest periods between major layers, until your paint handling improves.';

'>>7118726
wuf posting :D bump';

'>>7121222
Fooling around with colored ballpoints, yellow one was blobbing like crazy for some reason';

'>>7118765
'tis a cloth fold, bruv 0_o
>>7119545
Thankee!
>>7121222
Ayyyy!';

'So I fucked up a sketch in oil. The first layer was burnt sienna and I sketched with raw umber. Should I overpaint the sketch with burnt sienna again? Obviously it will be darker than using burnt sienna over a white ground.';

'>>7121840
JFC, just move on, who cares.
Unless this is going to be the last ever painting you intend to do, just get on with it.';

'Any advice on fixative to protect my watercolors? Have a few larger canvases that I'd like to protect from wear/tear so that they aren't damaged in shipping or anything silly like that. Something that won't fuck with the color/texture or give it a weird shine, ideally';

'>>7119573
I love the simplicity of this piece. Is this a place of personal importance to you?

Still working on painting waves and ripples. This one seems to have worked out better than the last but was tricky trying to express the different shadows on the water and sheen of wet sand at a slight angle.';

'>>7122655
>I love the simplicity of this piece.
Thanks!
>Is this a place of personal importance to you?
It's a random house I passed by in the middle of the night on a walk. Lol.';

'>>7122529
My greatest suggestion would be to invest in plastic sleeves. They can worry about the rest after they get it.';

'>>7122529
What this guy said >>7122667 get some acid free a3 and a2 sleeves. I use them to press paintings flat too';

'>>7122667
>>7122744
I guess, though I can't seem to find sleeves for 36"x48" or 48"x48" canvases? That's the size I'm working and (fingers crossed) going to be shipping, hence my question about fixative. I've found a lot online about protecting and fixing paper based watercolor works, and acrylic/oil on canvas, but I can't find anything specific to watercolor paints on canvas. My partner works in the art field and has given me a lot of helpful advice when it comes to starting out selling works but she's not a painter and I've never considered the long term durability of anything I've ever done since it's always been for my own enjoyment or rarely as a gift. Also neither here nor there but >>7122744 really liking what I can see in this wish you took a better pic lol';

'>>7122744
>acid free a3 and a2 sleeves
They're made of plastic, aren't they acid-free by default?';

'>>7118726
(maybe this should go on the art supply thread, but those guys seem to only buy pens and pencils).
Could you guys help a fellow to introduce himself to oil materials?
I've watched some youtube videos to get into oil painting, but almost everything I've seen has to do with the actual process and not so much with the materials themselves.
I know you only need 4 to 5 pigment tubes to makes your palette, but come on, who actually does that? I for one think it's impractical, coming from a watercolor, waxed based colored pencils and digital painting background.
I also don't know any brands for anything, not the tubes, not the brushes, not the diluents. What do you guys recommend? I know I'm getting started with oil painting, but I already know my fundies. I don't need the beg setup, I need something more on the mid to advanced gear. I think this is the next step on my art journey, not just a one day trip.
Also, what's up with those paper blocks for oil painting? Are they any good for practicing? I don't know if it's a financially coherent decision to just throw money at canvases in the very first try. Granted, I'll buy some when I get to the art supply store (which is a long way from home may I add), but I'd like to test the waters on something cheaper.

Thanks in advance.';

'>>7123442
Gamsol
Liquin
Linseed oil
Ivory black
Titanium white
Cadmium red
Alizarin crimson
Rose or carmine
Phthalo blue
Ultramarine blue
Cobalt blue
Naples yellow
Cadmium yellow medium
Lemon/transparent yellow
A few flats
A few rounds
A mop brush
A fan brush
Rags
Gesso
Sandpaper
Disposal container
A LOT of ventillation
Dish soap

That's a quick list of suggested supplies.';

'>>7123467
Also winsor newton is a good brand for all levels.';

'>>7123467
Thanks! What's the sandpaper for though?';

'>>7123470
Surface prep. Gessso, dry, sand, repeat. Until you have the level of smoothness you want.';

'>>7123467
I would add get a bottle of murphy's oil soap. Its a wood cleaner. It is the best thing for cleaning paint brushes that I've used.';

'>>7123475
Not them, but what grit sandpaper is needed to sand gesso? Do you need to do a few runs with a couple of different grits?';

'>>7123545
Nah that's not necessary. Fine grit is good.';

'>>7123475
Oh, ok, thank you very much!';

'>>7123238
Its still not very flat. Ive heard you can iron watercolor paintings too, might try that

>>7123294
Idk, it always says acid free on archival grade stuff';

'>>7123442
The other anon gave you a material list for a working oil painter, it's not a starter kit. (no offense otheranon, it's an alright list, but it's too much to start efficiently).

Oil paper is great as a rather cheap (and durable) practice surface. Slightly thick drawing paper+two or three coats of gesso is an alternative. Canvas are overrated unless you work on huge formats.

Pick up a copy of Richard Schmid's Alla Prima or Harold Speed's book on painting; read carefully, and learn from actual painters and teachers instead of random 4chan anons.';

'I did this little painting in oil.';

'Mixed Media. This one was almost a disaster as the india ink and alcohol markers didn't want to play nice together. Fortunately I was able to switch to a more mixed media approach and pull it together. Still, a lesson has been learned.';

'>>7124953
It always feels good to pull something back from the brink of diaster. When you say india ink and alcohol markers werent playing well, what was happening? Was the alcohol in the marker dissolving the ink, or something else.';

'>>7125074
I blocked in the shadows with light alcohol markers before going over everything with ink wash, but wherever I had drawn with marker the ink soaked into the paper much more intensely and left dark patches and lines, making the whole thing a patchy mess, instead of smoothly gradiated. I think the markers changed the surface quality of the paper, making it more absorbent in spots.

Funny thing is, I'd done the same thing before with no problem, but that was on hot-press paper. This was cold-press, so the surface was maybe more permeable and affectable.

Lesson learned: if I'm going to mix ink and marker on cold press watercolor paper, put the ink down first, then go over it with marker. No problems doing it that way...';

'I tried to paint a cherry tree from life. Was fun but it's hard and I feel kind of bad about it, it all turns out so flat and blotchy. Like I try to indicate depth, but the branches and flowers all end up like a 2d plane, there's no sense of the tree being more than a flat sheet. How would you have done it? Any advice?';

'Any soft pastels enjoyers here? What kind of paper do you recommend? Ive been painting on canvas, but its kinda pain in the ass. Wip of something I came up with after being on that Beksinski/Zawadzki pipeline';

'>>7125449
Another one I made in december for a friend';

'>>7125449
>>7125450
very nice. I love the detail of the armor';

'>>7118726
Here's a WIP of a pen-and-ink piece I'm working on. It's a redo of one of my first ink drawings I made when I started drawing again a few years back.';

'>>7118726
I remade that goofy ass image into a painting on a spare canvas. It's not my best work but that picture always made me laugh and is iconic to me.';

'>>7126199
Loving the perspective, anon!';

'>>7125449
Updated, I think keeping the body simple would be best, like a tight bodysuit or something';

'>>7127149
Very nice, would hang on my wall';

'>>7123467
This is a good list but insane overkill for someone starting out.

>>7123442
You need three primaries, white, and a dark earth.
I personally use Hansa Yellow Deep, Alizarin or Pyrole, Transparent Oxide Red (this is my favorite pigment PR101. Its way better than umbers and siennas. Use it and you'l understand why), and Ultramarine.
Alternatively, for an opaque palette yellow ochre or cad yellow, cad red, burnt umber, ultramarine.

For medium you should get linseed oil for painting and odorless mineral spirits for cleaning your brush. Turp is better for thinning paint because of its drying time but stinks. Naphtha dries even faster but doesn't stink which is bad because it sneak poisons you. The artist brand solvents are the same as the hardware store so save your money and buy it from ACE. When you get sick of smearing OMS and slimy slow drying oil everywhere read this: https://www.markboedges.com/materials

For brushes you need two types: Stiff and not stiff. Buy them from Rosemary Co. Michaels brushes are the same price and suck fat chode. You want (at minimum, buy more if you can) 3 long flat ultimate bristle, 3 long flat masters series, and 1 master series rigger. Long flat does almost everything. You can buy a filbert or two if you love portraits. Everything else is a specialty brush and a waste of money unless you know what you're doing.

For panels I personally use oil primed hardboard. If you cant cut your own panels just buy the acrylic primed ones at michaels and prime them with Zinsser Cover Stain oil primer. Acrylic primed canvases are trash and the weave on the store bought ones will make your paintings look like shit no matter what.

If you take any of this advice for the love of God let it be the brushes and surface. I wasted so much time painting with shitty brushes on shitty canvases wondering why my paintings suck. Don't be cheap and take care of your brushes, use a smooth oil primed surface, and you will save yourself a lot of misery.';

'>>7127704
Why not a set of 3 warm and 3 cool primaries?

There's been a lot of incredible art ITT. Nice job, guys.';

'>>7127727
Split primary doubles the amount of choices you have to make when mixing colors and doesn't really expand your palette at all. I organize my palette with warm colors (hansa, alizarin, Transparent oxide) on the left and cool colors (ultramarine and white) on the right. It's very rare that I need to add another primary to my palette. If I do it's usually cerulean blue just because Ultramarine is so dark.

Obviously as you paint more you find yourself repeating a lot of mixes That can be sped up by adding colors to your palette that are closer to your final mixes. For myself I find that more colors means more opportunity to break color harmony unless I have a very clear intention in adding it.

Fwiw, I paint almost exclusively landscapes. Portrait or still life painters will probably have a different set of pigments. I think the principle holds true regardless though. Master the primaries, then split them where you find a need. Starting with a masters palette doesn't help you solve beginner problems.';

'>>7127704
>This is a good list but insane overkill for someone starting out.
Yeah my bad. Kind if went full autist and just thoughtlessly threw down my supply list I keep in my head.';

'>>7125341
I think part of the issue is there really are a just two layers. Adding in some more background and mid ground layers might help boost the depth. I struggle with trees myself but something I find helpful (from my perspective at least) is composing the scene with strong shadows and slightly into the sun seems to work best. This will give your tree deeper shadows to paint so I tend to see more depth on my trees that way. I tend to paint the leaves first and rather quickly with my highlight color. I want the leaves still wet when I drag shadow color through to make the branches and trunks. The colors look best when they bleed together. Bonus points for putting some shadows on just the dark side of the trunk and have those colors also bleed together. Finally I’d say maybe some roots for your tree. I find roots the most interesting part to paint with all the shadows here and any roots coming straight out add great depth.';

'>>7126199
One anatomy tip. Big ol' booty with a cheek crease when the leg stretches back, and a smoother transition from bun to underthigh when the leg extends in front.';

'>>7121233
Neat style. Very charming design. I like it!';

'Layout sketch for a future project.';

'>>7127911
Thank you! There was something about her butt that seemed off but I couldn't put my finger on it. It seemed to be working so I didn't want to arbitrarily mess with it and make it worse. (It stands out more once all of the construction lines are gone too, so this is perfect timing)';

'There is a lot of really good art in this thread and I appreciate everyone's contributions. It warms my heart to see traditional still lives on in a digital and AI world.';

'>>7128205
If you just stand un a similar pose and feel your ass with your own hands you will know. Good luck, I dig pulp fantasy.';

'>>7128211
If anything, trad art is making a massive comeback in popularity, thanks in large-part to AI. People are so disgusted by the idea that even normies have gone full Return to Order.
Digitalfags are up shit's creek though. Lol';

'Currently working on this ghost bride piece. Remaking an old painting I'd done.

The hard part I think is getting the flowing fabric of the veil to look sheer against the background, especially with acrylic. And yeah I know the hands look super rough, and the lower one is too big I think.';

'>>7127889
Very nice, you really captured the light here. I like how you simplified the treeline on the right

>>7128107
Midsommar vibes

I did two small 10 by 15 cm paintings tonight, incorporating the cliché "watercolor house"';

'>>7128638
And the other one';

'>>7128638
>>7128639
Appreciate the slightly off margins, it really gives it a nice look. Can you talk about how much underpaint you're doing? There's a richness in how thin and watery the backgrounds are but without a hint of working';

'A quick head study I whipped up from a while ago. Been a bit since I sat down and drew something on paper.';

'Anyone have recommendations for an H-frame easel?';

'>>7129413
Thanks. I do the underpainting wet on dry with a large brush. Plenty of water and tilting the paper helps a bit but mostly its pigment selection. Some are smooth and creamy af while some will always granulate. For example: french ultramarine will not work for this but indigo is fine. Cad yellow and permanent rose are nice. Raw sienna and olive green too';

'>>7129573
Do it yourself, probably. If you need stability and fixed thing, consider relying on a wall (drill the frame to the wall for example).

More portable setups are convenient for plein-air and studio, albeit less sturdy.

>>7129526
There are good points, but those proportions anon, those proportions...';

'>>7123467
>Linseed oil
Does this have to be from an artstore?';

'>>7129795
I guess not? But the stuff you get in an art store will be clarified/refined properly. And you won't get the variety, like if you want quick dry oil, slow dry, thickened, etc.';

'>>7128479
Slowly getting there with the blocking. But the shape of the body beneath the draping, and the lowered hand/arm need serious correcting.';

'>>7130426
It'd look sell well at Spirit Halloween';

'I once posted my aquarel landscapes here, asking if anyone can suggest where I could put them online to make some extra $ (I'm an art school graduate but I don't work as a painter).
I got mugged because I used word "analog art", that apparently didn't fit with some people in here, I don't know 4chan slang.
I'm never posting any of my work here ever again, this board is for trolls, not for artists.';

'What's the best brand of white-out?
Whilst I love trad, I always make dumb mistakes when inking lineart that I really shouldn't have.
Most white-outs I know of tend to show up really poorly on the paper and leave marks when you scan them. Additionally, a lot are hard to draw on after they dry and sometimes flake or smudge, making the drawing worse than it was before.';

'>>7130426
I like your movement, but I think you lose a bit of that flow with the head and chest area. You're addressing the hands, so the only other thing that I'd mention is that it seems like switching to the more umber color for the shadows in the main body and head is a little jarring to me. It also seems to make it more solid and lose a the ethereal feeling that the veil has. maybe try switching to a warmer blue for those areas?

>>7131416
I've heard of gouache being used for this. I've never tried it myself, but it makes sense that you could mix up a color of gouache that matches the tone of the paper you're using.

>>7118830
Thanks for the advice, and I've attempted to fix the I beam as well as give it better visual flow. What I was intending is that the eye would start at either the top or the bottom, and move along the length of the image hitting each figure as it follows the hand/arm. I think I was successful but would like some confirmation since I've had my nose in this image for a bit. Next step is decidedly un-trad as I'm going to try some different color combos in CSP and Corel Paint before committing to physical watercolor. I got carried away one evening thought and added the yellow and blue areas with some watercolor pens, so they're there now for better or worse.';

'have a clumsy frazetta study, first time using a gpen and brush.';

'This is insane. absolutely insane. I can not explain and I can not express how insane this watercolor image is.
INSANE';

'>>7131681
Yeah youre good. Nice work and I think the kind of feedback I gave would have been enough to keep in mind for the next time, nothing that you absolutely had to address. Excited to see how it turns out

>>7131945
The goat, although I dont strive for realism personally. Imagine seeing this when photos were poorer quality, rare and b&w';

'>>7131945
The power of white gouache.

Also probably of photo references. (1886 is about 40 years after the first permanent colored photo).

(It's not that crazy if you've actually tried to paint water reflections; most of the water is very abstract and loose)';

'Do you guys sketch/draw in public? What do you draw? I'm not good at it so I don't want to draw people(because I don't want to accidentaly make a caricature and also because anxiety), but drawing tress and building is boring and animals are hard to find sometimes and they move.';

'A copy of
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/hd/0b4cee61146157.5a6558b33b004.jpg
Now that I got a scanner and as much A4 paper I want, I might try screwing around with pencils and pens. Monsters are quite cool stuff to draw, maybe over time I learn to monsterify the stuff I find outside, that would be interesting.
I might need some hard cardboard and binder clips if I were to draw outside, though.';

'Watercolors and sumi ink.';

'>>7132662
See >>7130868';

'>tubes are dry and won't open
>pour boiling water so they open
>clean them up and put them away
>few months later
>about to paint
>tubes are sealed again
>won't open

no other medium makes me rage this hard';

'>>7134530
Happened to me with cheaper tubes, I think because of an excess of oils. A wrench was enough to open them.

Make a reminder to open and close once a month or so.';

'>>7119699
Everything the other anon said but also,
If you really want to work with oil and not have to wait days for it to dry so you can layer, try using a smaller brush. That means you won’t put as much oil on canvas and it will be a thin layer, although it will take more patience.';

'>>7134530
Get a good pair of needle nose pliers and use them to help turn the caps. That's what I do, works every time. Even if they've been sitting for months, untouched.';

'>>7134530
Could you run a thin strip of plumbing tape around the edge of each tube opening and then coat it in a thin layer of Vaseline to help with that happening?';

'"The Shriek"

Ink and Paint.';

'>>7131398
I take it as a compliment!

>>7131681
We think alike! I realized it was too solid looking and I've started going back and cooling down the values of the cloth. I'd have another update, but haven't had as much time.';

'Thoughts?';

'>>7135670
Decent contrapasto in the central figure. But the hip on which he is leaning needs to be more raised. You don't get the effect by shifting the upper body in the opposite direction. In a traditional contrapasto there should always be a line straight down from the head to the groin. little to or no angle.';

'>>7135702
Yeah I noticed the lower part of the body looms like its dislocated more to the right, a bit un-natural';

'>>7135702
Anyway what are sone resources you recommend for anatomy study, especially neoclassicist';

'what do you think of this new slab i finished?';

'I tried to paint a cityscape of sorts. I don't know why but something about it bothers me. Also tried to paint a bit. But I feel like I should probably practice more on simpler shapes, I love doodling these sorts of buildings but they tend to get ruined during painting. Lots of detail lost. Still, it's a learning opportunity and I like parts of it
I think maybe I should try leaving details out of the sketch and add them while painting instead and be more aggressive with the surfaces. Like more big areas of paint I add details to, rather than details I have to paint around. If that makes sense. And also learn to omit detail and be more abstract.
Any feedback or advice?
>>7127889
Thanks for the feedback! I keep it in mind, and very nice painting.

>>7135139
Very nice feeling of shapes in the head and great rendering and keeping highlights, the feet are a bit stiff though, I think they could have been angled more away from eachother. The pose altogether is a bit still for a shrieking, But very nice work! How big is it?

>>7135749
I think it looks great! Love the creative designs.';

'>>7135749
Looks cool so post a print! Did you engrave on linoleum or another surface.';

'>>7135752
>How big is it?

9x12 inches. And yeah, I should have had him leaning back a bit and his feet splaying, but what're ya gonna do? At least I think it works overall.';

'>>7135670
Looks like he's getting a good nosh off, at least.';

'Prob about 50-60% done with this one. Been a while since I've done any decent sized paintings and it's always satisfying. Bigger isn't always better but in art I think it is. Sucks that canvases are getting so expensive nowadays, 85 bucks a pop for a gallery framed 36x48 at my local store. We'll see if any from this batch sell, I guess.';

'>>7118739
the transparency in branches and stuff are so crazy,
clearly a lot of control going into it, very impressive, but the transparency itself might be what's throwing some people off. decide what you actually want in the piece maybe, but it's very cool looking.';

'Here a quick drawing. Only a year into drawing regularly';

'>>7123442
>I know you only need 4 to 5 pigment tubes to makes your palette, but come on, who actually does that? I for one think it's impractical, coming from a watercolor, waxed based colored pencils and digital painting background.
good God you are arrogant man. Stfu if you've never done oil painting and listen to people who do. Much like watercolor, good painters only use up to 5 colors.
Here's what you need:
>Anders Zorn palette+ ultramarine blue
>two hog hair flat brush, size 18 and 12.(DaVinci is a good brand)
>odorless spirits
>cotton rag (old t-shirt)
>one palette knife
>varnish
>cheap cardboard canvas or a canvas pad to practice on.

>>7123467
oh yeah, get a buttplug while you are at it

>>7126199
take all your rulers and thrown them out. Thank me later.
>>7127889
nice painting anon

>>7137954
>Prob about 50-60% done with this one
done with what?';

'>>7118726';

'>>7135749
Siick';

'I painted a few things,threw them together in a pic to keep from spamming.

I think i got too eager, maybe too ambitious. Too many things in a single sitting, I don't know what happened. I couldn't make something I was happy with. I feel like I'm going crazy. The brush just wouldn't be straight, everything got messy. I couldn't render anything, the shapes just vanished under the paint.

I was trying to be less overt with details, trying to make shapes with light and dark and not lines. But it's difficult.

Trying to also experiment with rendering, the first one was the bot with the hoses, tried to imitate Ashley wood, how he renders with some dry brushing.

Any advice?';

'>>7140025
Nice bots, dude. A flare of some color might be cool.';

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'>>7141908
hell yeah';

'>>7129526';

'>>7139910
>take all your rulers and thrown them out. Thank me later.
What is the pitfall you are warning me against? Is it that relying too much on technical perspective is going to make my art too cold/mechanical? In this case, I was trying to work on reinforcing the more technical aspects of perspective so I may have gone too far in that direction and I can see how it feels a bit too rigid. Suggestions about how to think about different camera angles, etc., without rulers while not lapsing into something that looks too amateurish?';

'>>7142167
not him;learning to draw straight lines by hand is a good skill to develop';

'>>7141330
Thanks!
I doodled a bit, added colour. Playing around with high and low detail areas.

>>7141908
Looks great!

Some feedback is that the pauldrons look a bit like wood, maybe add some weld lines or some texture on the areas in shadow.Perhaps some lines to indicate they're made from multiple pieces, or some impact marks that have exposed the grey metal underneath or perhaps some texture like that of his arm. Great work on that by the way!';

'shouldn't have started an oil painting since I'm trying to put together some sort of portfolio...but now I have to finish it
What's the worst part about this so far. Still a wip of course.

>>7142167
not really, it just makes everything look stiff. Keep doing what you are doing with "technical" perspective, vanishing points are always there, just avoid rulers. Look at Nausicaa, he never used a ruler throughout the entire manga.


>>7140025
I like the trees there! do you know Ashley wood? I think you would benefit from studying his robots.
pay attention to the orientation of the brushstrokes, for instance, the ones on her pelvis compared to the one on her thigh. Since it's metal it might make sense to place them all vertically. Lastly, avoid using black, as it makes everything much more dull. Try a mix of burnt sienna and ultramarine blue instead.';

'>>7142759
oils are still wet and shinny, sorry about that';

'>>7142759
Value range is way too tight.';

'>>7143085
Not an issue IMO

>>7142763
Perspective of the hair circle thing is skewed. More details, textures on the hairs maybe';

'>>7139910
>done with what?
cleaning up the spilt paint';

'>>7142763
Hair a bit flat. I figure you planned to add a bit of depth to it. But of a uniboob as she looks pretty flat on the other side. I don’t really understand what that pinky is doing.';

'just some random character I drew today. Notice how the waterproof ink repelled the water on the watercolor(specially on the pants). Pretty weird because it had never happened to me before(on other papers) but it does make sense, since the waterproof ink uses shellac as the binder.


>>7143085
I can see how it may seem that way on the photo (bad photo+ oils dull out when dry and unvarnished) but

>>7143206
>Perspective of the hair circle thing is skewed. More details, textures on the hairs maybe
thanks, I also detected that. I tried fixing the perspective today. Will see what I can do, but thanks for spotting it man
>>7143263
yes the hair needs more work. I'll be adding brighter highlights later on so maybe that does it. The uniboob did look wack, so thanks for pointing that out, I tried to work on it. pinky is supposed to be turning inward, might change it if it looks too weird later on.right now I have to wait for it to draw before I can paint over it baka';

'>>7144043
Sovl';

'>>7144043
Maybe oil it out and then take another picture to compare (if it's dry enough to do so, which I assume it is since you're saying the values are like that because it sunk in).
Just a suggestion anyways, not pretending to be an expert.';

'Anons, anyone feel like painting a fantasy piece for a dungeon synth album cover based on 1 of the song titles? i can pay 60 dollars lol thats more i'll ever make from the album probably, so i guess it will be like a license or something?';

'>>7144043
>thanks, I also detected that. I tried fixing the perspective today. Will see what I can do, but thanks for spotting it man
Just in case, don't paint seated but standing, and make a habit of going back to look at your work. This should help spotting those earlier';

'>>7144487
hey anon I'd absolutely love to. That's the type of gig I've been looking for. Been listening to a lot of dungeon synth and kings field ost, wich I think influenced my work(picrel). Since I'm trying to build up my portfolio I'm fine with that price.

you can Dm me on IG:
>https://www.instagram.com/pedrogferreira_';

'>>7135752
Very cool anon. It looks kinda flat because of the lack of contrast in foreground and background (the buildings on the right and the big dome building have very similar values). Also note there’s a bunch of tangents at the arch and at the edges of the dome building.';

'>>7144605
the image you've posted looks hella cool, i've sent you a message';

'bump';

'unfinished leyendecker mastercopy for schoo';

'>>7146111
looks ni';

'painted St.George while waiting for the oil painting to dry. Mainly focusing on getting a good composition that's also not too generic since all depictions of St.George are very much the same. Not too happy with his face, albeit I didn't plan that part at all and focused on everything else. I'm inhaling copium, but the the idea is that this would be some sort of card art illust so the face would be too small to read lol. At least it reads well as a thumbnail.
Heavily inspired by Arthur Rackam and Hitoshi Yoneda.


>>7144510
>Just in case, don't paint seated but standing, and make a habit of going back to look at your work. This should help spotting those earlier
yeah, found that out the hard way. thanks man.
btw, now I totally get why yoshitaka Amano paints watercolors while standing. You have to.
>>7144054
hey thanks anon

>>7146111
looks good dawg. I see a lot of Uni students doing leyendecker studies. Do they make you do that or is it your call?';

'>>7147275
thanks! he’s just great to study from since his strokes are easily legible and there’s a wealth of information on his process. they did hand out a sheet of recommended artists but he was one of hundreds listed. leyendecker and rockwell are common refs for people in studio programs leaning towards illustration since they have good drawing sense and popularity. this was for a figure painting class, my school likes avant garde expression so there were more Sara Ball/Salman Toor/Colleen Barry type pieces. i was surprised during critique nobody else in my class did a JCL or Rockwell, but there was one with a Sargent (portrait of madame x)';

'>>7147275
Yo that dragon flapping out his ass';

'>>7131945
This man is insane too.';

'I know it's shitty but I spent my evening on this literally just fucking around, which was good for practicing loosening up a little bit.';

'>>7147663
>>7131945
>le zmog it looks like a photo! so insane!

grow up.';

'>>7147275
Insanely good';

'>>7147880
>having precision from a medium known for not being precise is lame
You grow up you dumb nigger.';

'how much drawing should you learn before you try to learn to paint?
would going through a couple /beg/ books be enough?';

'>>7148615
Do them at the same time. Drawing skills will massively benefit your painting but no reason not to start now and learn how to use the medium.';

'>>7148615
picrel.
>>7148054
much thanks :)';

'>>7148806
>picrel.
Ingres is wrong though. Like, it takes more than one hour already to memorize 10/15 pigments and their properties as relevant say for oil paint.

He's being whimsical, poetic, not accurate.

>>7148615
Painting will make you better at drawing.
Drawing will make you better at painting.

("It depends")';

'>>7148885
if you can draw, you can paint
if you can paint, you can't draw';

'>>7148998
>if you can draw, you can paint
In the general case, no, because paint requires to know much more things that regular drawing skills.

>if you can paint, you can't draw
In the general case, no, because you can use a painterly approach to draw.';

'>>7149002
didn't read your post';

'Oil painting from a reference picture.
Opinions?';

'>>7149084
> either an apology
> or a bitter comment
Welcome to the fourth dime-channel.';

'>>7149133
Some of the fruits look not bad but the sky and leaves look really lazy.';

'>>7150917
Thanks for the crit, anon';

'Lately, I've been realizing once again how bad it is to paint in oil on a cotton canvas that hasn't been primed with gesso first. I've also noticed that I tend to get much better results when painting with oils and thinner on regular sketching paper. So, I guess that means I do better on smooth surfaces. Are there any options available for me if I want to paint on an archival support, other than using a gessoed board (too smooth) or going through the gesso layers/sandpapering hurdle on a regular canvas?
Are supports of key importance when painting in oils?';

'>>7151131
>Are there any options available for me if I want to paint on an archival support, other than using a gessoed board (too smooth) or going through the gesso layers/sandpapering hurdle on a regular canvas?
Oil paper? (like Arches huile, but there are others).

>Are supports of key importance when painting in oils?
Every little element is important if you want a fine result, because those they require you to have a precise understanding of what you material can do, and what it's best suited for.';

'>>7151124
No problem, if you post the reference that may help with more specific feedback';

'>>7140003
im jealous you make it look so easy';

'>>7151891
Thank you, but I'm still really early in the process of figuring this stuff out.
The postcard paintings are fun to do though. Very low stress.';

'>>7151999
but you have experience elsewhere right? like the strokes already look very deliberate';

'>>7147880

I know the five million photorealistic drawings of random celebrities has made you cynical, sheer virtuosity still has merit, you know.';

'sargent study detail';

'mancini study';

'portrait of a friend';

'>>7152238
beautiful';

'>>7152024
Oh yeah for sure, I did digital for several years. I just wasn't enjoying it anymore so I'm spending time on learning trad.';

'>>7152227
>>7152233
>>7152238
Crazy good work anon';

'self portrait';

'>>7153703
I very much enjoy this';