'>>7121775
>Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.';

'Is it true that Samsung did a refresh of the S6 Lite? Why didn't they just make an S7 Lite?';

'>>7121776';

'>>7121775
Is it true that OP doesn't draw? Why does he talk about drawing tablets?';

'>>7121804
Because the S7 lite was the S7 FE and the S9 lite is the S9 FE
Idk why they keep the S6 Lite alive but yes it did get a refresh a few days ago and the only thing that changed was the chipset being upgraded to match what's in the A9
Still only has 4 gigs of ram though';

'>>7121812
Wait, so what is the cheapest available 14.6" Samsung Tablet? Obviously you'd forgo the OLED panel premium if you're buying one for art.';

'what's this tablet that Madhouse staff are using?';

'>>7121810
he hates chinese people';

'>>7121817
14.6" is reserved for Ultras so the "cheapest" one would be the S8 Ultra
The next biggest and cheapest after that would be a 12.4" S7 FE but ONLY if you can find one with 6 gigs of RAM which they literally do not sell anymore in some markets
At that size and price though you're really just better off going for the Magic Drawing Pad
The S9 FE exists but it's no longer 12.4" by default, you have to shell out an extra hundred or two bucks for the S9 FE+ for that size now which is a scam';

'>>7121775
Anyone who draws here can give me advice for my first display?
Which is better? 16 inch qhd or 22 inch fhd? I have an intuos medium and a large I use interchangeably in a 1080p monitor and a 4k one.
Do you feel 16 inch is too cramped? The one advantage I see it you can use it flat as a non display more conveniently when needed.';

'>>7121818
XP Pen artist pro 16, newer gen';

'>>7121818
>>7121987
OP's seething mad rn.';

'>>7121821
To be honest there have been some really good deals for previous gen S8 Ultra on the Samsung website.';

'Guy with the cintiq pro 17
I don't think i can go back to other tablets now';

'>>7121808
Oh wow, posting this webm proves that the chinesetablet guy is actually retarded.';

'>>7122478
Yes, Huions are that bad.';

'>>7122431
Yeah that's just how good the new Cintiq Pro line is. I got their 27 incher and I'm just fucking ruined for inferior tablets, this is the first time that I've ever drawn digitally and not missed the tactility of paper and pencil.';

'>>7121810
>>7121818
>>7121987
>>7122329
samefag';

'>monitor suddenly blacked out a few days ago
>completely no light on the power indicator, internet says probably a burst capacitor or something, practically ewaste now
>rip after 4 years, thanks buddy
>order a cheap refurbished one
>guess ill chill and take it easy for a bit till it arrives
>after two days, notice the indicator light is back on?
>reconnect the hdmi, oh shit we're back baby

still excited for the other monitor to come. chose a 16:10 to see if it's the true aspect ratio';

'>>7122647
pyw';

'I think my wacom CTH 680 is dying, touches sometimes don't register and the cursor will just spaz out at random. Anyone know if this is something I can fix or is it time to get a new tablet?';

'>>7122647';

'>>7122647
pyw schizo';

'>>7121775
>Says not to trust the "shills"
>Posts a picture of a screenless tablet, a product no one has used for years at this point

What is the point of this? Babbys first tablet or what?';

'how have the mods not banned this retard yet
oh wait
>mods
>on /ic/
lol lmao
>>7122778
you're literally lying wacom tablets are perfect and the best and never break';

'>>7122894
>What is the point of this? Babbys first tablet or what?
its not the same screenless schizo making these is it??? If thats who it is hes been doing it for literally YEARS at this point fuckin hell';

'>>7122894
jannies will literally let this type of thread reach bump limit and let schizos derail the generals but will ban you on sight for making a meta thread or a slightly critical comment on the current state of the board because it hurt their feefees
>MODS=FAGGOTS';

'>>7122891
bro your spine will literally explode if your back isn't straight while you draw';

'>>7122897
Not feeding those faggots would solve the board problem instantly';

'>>7122778
Since this is a touch/pen hybrid perhaps that's what's to blame. If you can deactivate the touch.
Obviously clean it of muck in case that is whats to blame.
Try too use it on a different computer. Or try if you can get it working with opentabletdriver.';

'>>7122983
lol do they not understand you can get a stand so its up straight in an easel position';

'>>7121775
Just bought an XP Pen Artist 13.3 Pro Tablet. AMA';

'>>7123168
Digital eye strain';

'>>7123177
Nawt really.';

'>>7123041
first time hearing about opentabletdriver and it seems to have fixed all the issues I was having, but I cant seem to get pen pressure to work. It seems to read just fine in the debugger but nothing in CSP/Krita. Tried the VMulti plugin and the Windows Ink plugin, but I cant seem to figure it out';

'>>7123416
nevermind this, after a lot of finagling I finally got it to work';

'Last time I ventured into this general was before I decided to get a Deco Pro Gen 2 (XP Pen). Months ago.
If you're not a little bitch that needs a screen tablet to draw decently, it works well and is worth the price.
Can't go into detail about tilt feature because I don't use it.

Be wary of dick sucking sort
in short
seek impartiality';

'Do you guys bother changing your ipad screen protectors? I've had mine for a few months and it still feels good to draw on.';

'>>7123833
Honestly I'm a set em and forget em kind of guy. I've been using the same screen protector for nearly 3 years.';

'>>7124298
Probably what I'm gonna do. I managed to get it on perfectly with no bubbles and I have no desire to do it again.';

'This is kind of making me want an ipad. can anyone redpill me on them? I only want it for drawing and animating, can I buy older models to save money? How much of a pain in the ass are apple pencil? I'm too used to wacom so the idea of having to charge your pencil sounds quite annoying to me.';

'>>7124320
Pros
>feels great do draw on (with textured screen protector), very responsive
>factory calibrated so good colors
>decent selection of software
>comfy to use

Cons
>price
>tablet OS is limiting
>Apple

Neutral
>size (have a 12.9 and sometimes I wish it was bigger)

The apple pencil is good (but really fucking overpriced). It charges when you attach it to the ipad so it's not a hassle. Mine's never died on me. Can't speak for older ipads as I have a 6th gen pro but I'm sure the older models are fine. If you want to do anything professional you might want one with more RAM and a better CPU though.';

'>>7124320
Also being able to draw wherever you want instead of being tethered to a desk is really nice.';

'>>7124320
You’re a grown ass man. Make the decision yourself. I drew this on procreate and its OK.';

'surface a fucking retarded idea?';

'>>7124320
For drawing I'd avoid any iPad that uses the gen1 pencil (any iPad model with a lightning port and the latest regular iPad) because charging that is more of a hassle and it doesn't feel nice to hold. For animating I'd avoid any iPad that doesn't have an M chip processor because you'll want that processing power for making lengthy/complex animations.

The gen 2 pencil uses wireless charging that's easy to use and charges quickly, in my experience a single charge gives me 5-8 hours of drawing. Just slap it on the iPad whenever you use the washroom and when you get back you'll have at least an extra 90 minutes of juice.

A personal protip I tell everyone is that if you have an apple store nearby, buy one and a pencil from there and try it out for a week. As long as you don't break it, you can return it afterwards for a full refund, no questions asked. Then you can shop around for a cheaper used one.';

'how many bump posts does that make, guzzler?';

'>>7124320
Lots of beginners really overthink this shit, they all look at cheap chink shit but if you want quality it's ipad and wacom that's the best and that's it.';

'>>7122778
Nice brush, got a source (or a .sut?)';

'>>7124891
Lots of retards really think this shit because their brains haven't moved on since 2004, and they parrot what other artists tell them rather than form their own opinions.';

'>>7124918
its just a hard round brush with pen pressure sensitivity';

'>>7124891
This.';

'>>7124891
Shut up indo-chinese nigger sewer rat';

'>>7121873
You should care for image quality and color rendition first, then size';

'>>7125700
You don't even draw lol';

'>>7125700
oh yeah totally. people are gonna know if your drawing on a 73% adobe range screen like a loser. All the P3 chads are gonna point and laugh. they're gonna laugh at you. kick you off the internet. throw rocks at you. fuck your wife. you don't want that do you?';

'>>7124320
or you can just get a galaxy tab with a bigger screen, better software and passive EMR pen(s) that don't need to be charged for cheaper than an ipad';

'Newfag to art and this board both.
My Wacom CTL-6100 came in today and I've already worn the nib into a point with simple linework (picrel). Am I doing something wrong?

I've since increased the sensitivity to one node from the softest. I'm finding it to be far more comfortable and consistent, so no troubles there. Any recommendations on screen protector and nib manufacturers?';

'>>7126114
>Am I doing something wrong?
You are tracing and chicken scratching.';

'I built a new PC the other week and, for some reason, my Huion Kamvas 16 2021 totally prevents my PC from booting up if the USB is plugged into any slot. I'm talking no fans running, lights on the motherboard, anything. But as soon as I unplug it, the bootup proceeds just fine.
As long as the PC is turned on I can plug it in any time and use it normally, so using it to draw isn't an issue, it's only a problem when booting up. But it is annoying having to reach behind my case to unplug it every time I boot up my PC.
Anyone know what's causing this? I checked my bios and made sure it wasn't trying to boot from USB.';

'>>7126194
is the psu just big enough for your system?';

'>>7126213
I have a 750w PSU and the rig on pcpartpicker came out to about 540w, so there's plenty of leeway there.
Also the tablet has a separate adapter that connects it directly to an outlet, so it's not drawing power from the PC itself.';

'>>7126161
This is unironically what I was taught in school. I am working on ironing that out, and I will learn from established sources to better my technique. What concerns me more is that it only took three (3) hours to wear the nib out by doing this with minimal pressure, at an ~85° angle.

Are metal nibs bait? I would not use one without a screen protector, mind.';

'>>7126270
are you a gorilla or are wacom nibs made of tissue paper? I've used my xp pen daily for like 2 years with minimal wear';

'>>7126289
Captcha says I am human.';

'>>7126270
lower the tip hardness and reduce your gorilla grip you NIGGER';

'>>7121808
>>7122517
You can make that webm with any tablet if you don't calibrate it or set the drawing area too small.
The fact this schizo would post it as proof that Huion is bad means they don't own a tablet of any kind.';

'>>7126380
>they don't draw at all.
fixed';

'>>7126380
In the video he took it from, after they calibrated it, it worked well and they said they loved it lmao';

'>>7126345
d~did you just assume my RACE?!?
I'll have you know I cried upon reading this. I am fragile like a Wacom Standard Nib ACK-200-01-BA. Would a nigger cry?';

'>>7126380
>>7126381
Reported ;)';

'>>7126386
Cry about it';

'>people still get scammed into buying huion garbage';

'>>7126664
>A poor craftsman blames his tools.
- Jesus Christ of Nazareth';

'>>7126664
pyw';

'>>7121775
Ordered a Wacom One yesterday, medium-size. Any tips for a first time tablet user?';

'>>7127039
Return it and buy a huion instead.';

'Such a desperate little shill moron: >>7127047';

'>>7127058
pyw';

'>>7126931
>>7127012
>>7127047
>>7127064
All the same guy.
Removing the IP count was a fucking disaster. Why did Hiroshima Nagasaki do it?';

'>>7127077
wrong again';

'>>7127077
>>>/pol/';

'Any recommendations to make drawing on iPad more comfortable? I already have a textured screen protector.';

'>>7127127
Get one of these cheap laptop stands so you can angle it to your liking

Or Sketchboard Pro if you have money to burn';

'>>7127127
a desktop stand like the other anon mentioned, although it doesn't need to be a full laptop sized one since I think those have a disproportionate footprint for a tablet
i have picrel and i use it with my s9 ultra, it's stable and sturdy
another thing i've found to be really nice if you don't have space on your desk is a kind of laptop stand designed for DJ setups and such, like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnlxK8jFtoE';

'>>7126289
>are wacom nibs made of tissue paper?
yes, see picrel
I'll probably buy 100 or so of them from aliexpress, given that quality can not be any worse.
Fuck their printer-ink-esque business model.';

'>>7127127
I use the "Parblo Universal Graphic Drawing Tablet Stand" for my cintiq 16 which is ipad sized, and it does the job.';

'>>7127696
do people really wear out their wacom nibs that often? I must draw with very different pressure from most people because i haven't changed my nib since 2020 and i'm using my cintiq all day every day for my job. plastic on glass just doesn't wear down as long as you don't press incredibly hard';

'>>7127127
get ZUGU case. multiple levels of adjustment. im happy with it, even draw while sitting up in bed.

>>7127131
>sketchboard pro
jesus, that expensive. and why does thing even exist?';

'>>7127712
My Intuos M has a textured surface that's quite rough, their glass might be easier on the nibs than whatever they are using on their screenless tablets.
I also do some digital sculpting which depending on the brush is certainly quite hard on the nibs.';

'Anyone here with a tab s9. Any experience using it with superdisplay? I'm going for the tab s9 instead of a huion. I'd like to use it with my pc.';

'>>7127743
Its biggest advantage is how portable and standalone is but I use it from time to time with superdisplay if I need to edit stuff in photoshop specifically and it works well enough for that.';

'>Pen tablet is way more comfy for long use but less precise
>Display tablet is more accurate for linework but it kills my neck even with an ergotron arm

I have no idea what to do. Right now I have a 13in display tablet but it's hell after long hours. I wanna get a 24in hoping it's gonna be better on my neck and back, anyone knows if it helps with that?

Otherwise I'm tempted to go back to screenless, even doing lineart is worse in it because it's so much more ergonomic.';

'>>7127708
>Parblo
Desperate chinese motherfucker.
No food today huh?';

'>>7127779
so not only tablet companies, but tablet stand companies shill on ic too?
pyw btw';

'>>7127779
Quick post a webm of someone using the stand wrong.
That'll show em.';

'bump';

'Is a small display or a big one good for digital art?';

'>>7128576
Personally, small ones do just fine. There's no point getting anything bigger than some crazy large 22"+ one because you wont need or use that much space anyway.';

'Between an ipad and a samsung tab, is it fair to assume the samsung is going to be cheaper in terms of maintenance for the pen tips and probably also free software options and whatnot?';

'>>7128743
on bare glass, there's no difference i think
a textured screen protector will eat your nibs
samsung doesn't sell nib replacements for the S Pen and the default rubber one it comes with has no 3rd party replacements either, but you can get other rubberized nibs from staedtler or wacom pretty cheap ($1/nib in packs of 10) which last forever on bare glass or just buy plastic ones from aliexpress for even cheaper';

'>>7127127
>>7127719
I recommend the ESR case. It's cheaper than the zugu and lets you stand the ipad up vertically.

>>7128743
You'll most likely be buying 3rd party nibs anyway to there's not much of a difference (though I did get a 4 pack of official nibs on sale for pretty cheap).
>free software
Krita's on android but I don't know how good it is compared to the desktop version. I'm not aware of any other noteworthy free drawing apps. I think CSP is on android too but it's subscription shit like ios.';

'>>7128780
The fuck does samsung want? people buying multiple pens or some shit?';

'>>7128809
Yes, but like I said the nib doesn't wear out if you're using it on the glass and it's rubberized so there's more friction than using plastic on glass';

'>>7128813
>Yes
christ';

'>>7127779
i didn't even know they are chinese, do i care? no not really. It's what i use and I'm not a shill you paranoid chud';

'>>7127127
>textured screen protector.
Which one do you have?';

'>>7128872
nta but I use this one
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GZKL8WH
I previously tried a bellemond one but it was too rough. This one feels just right.';

'Other than a few more inches, is there a reason to get the S9 ultra over the s9+ tab?';

'>>7128821
Your fault for hurling money at bugmen';

'>>7128902
Every option is bugmen one way or another';

'>>7128896
no but the size is really nice';

'>>7128576
if that's a picture of your actual setup, you would understand how your questions is retarded as you could do fine even with a smaller tablet
Look at that fucking wear, 1 inchr from the corners of you current tablet must be fucking new still
Why do you think you'll suddenly start drawing bigger with a bigger tablet';

'>>7128877
Do they have any compatible with 6th gen iPads?';

'>>7128576
where did you get those head poses on the other monitor from?
if you drew them then damn anon good job';

'This brand any good?';

'>>7129083
You mean the non-pro? I'm not sure.';

'>>7129141
don't be fooled, it's a chinese trap';

'I really want to make digital art but I feel intimidated by my drawing tablet. What takes me only a few minutes to draw on paper takes me hours to do on the tablet.';

'>>7129378
Screen or screenless?';

'>>7129208
have you used it';

'>>7121775
What would you guys recommend for something equivalent in size/quality to iPad Pro 12.9 or Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra if it MUST be a PC tablet (I need to use Aseprite)? Is Cintiq 16 truly dogwater or is that the best bet?';

'>>7129625
Screenless';

'>>7129208
Silence, chud.';

'>>7125244
Take meds';

'>>7129872
A lot of people say you get used to it but I could never get comfortable drawing on a screenless tablet. If you can afford it I'd recommend getting one with a screen, otherwise you're better off doing the lineart traditionally and painting/coloring it with your tablet.';

'>>7129925
yeah that seems like the best route for someone with a screenless. that being said, i had to get used to the screen tablet, because ive been screenless for so long.
despite trad pencil drawing being my comfort zone, stylus was just in the way and then also dealing with UI elements on tiny screen was challenging';

'>>7129664
The only thing I dont like about my cintiq 16 is the cords are short and I like to hold it while I draw so thats annoying. It can take a beating and is more scratch resistant than expected. Pro pen 2 best pen dont (You) me, 2 side buttons and an eraser should be mandatory on every tablet pen. Also just rub the nib on your asian jeans when it gets sharp and the denim will smooth it out again, I haven't changed nibs once';

'Why do I have to choose between giving up tablet space or buying a 16:10 monitor? Why can't pen tablets just be 16:9 like the vast majority of monitors?';

'>>7129925
The cursor drift on the XP-Pen I used to use is why I use a screenless now. Having to look at where you're actually drawing while the pen actively gets in the way is infuriating. The only ones without noticeable parallax are Ipads and Cintiqs, both way more expensive than an equally-sized screenless.';

'How do i fix the pen nib messing with the hover distance? I am using OTD with a CTL672. If i remove the pen nib, the max hover distance will always be consistent at a value of 31 when the pen is in contact with the tablet. But, if the pen nib is inserted, sometimes the max hover distance will be inconsistent and will be at a value of 26 to 31 when the pen nib is in contact with the tablet.';

'>>7130499
>the only ones without noticeable parallax are Ipads and Cintiqs
why is this thread exclusively just retards constantly lying?';

'>>7130976
The actual tablet general is down the road bro';

'>>7122778
disable touch + buy a new tip for your stylus and it will probably be fine.';

'>>7130976
I've actually used a number of tablets unlike you. I'm speaking from experience, retard. Oh wait, don't tell me you're one of those
>it has no parallax!!
>...as long as you don't tilt the pen at all from the exact position you calibrated it in
idiots?';

'went back to screenless as well. love my intuos4 large from a decade ago (maube more)
i would still sketch and do linework on ipad, but man so much control and freedom doing painting on screenless. no wonder fzd and teal use screenless';

'>>7131243
another big plus is that the colors are much better on the monitor as opposed to matt screen tablet';

'>>7129872
hes wrong do not listen to him
screen is 100% the closet thing to actually drawing normal and there is zero learning curve.
ignore screenless shills like this they have brian rot';

'>>7127127
some anons mentioned really cheap stands that will wobble. I use the Parblo Universal Graphic drawing tablet stand. It can hold 10-16" tabelts. It's perfect and made for drawing on, but it's like $50 so if ur broke it might not be an option';

'>>7131693
at $50 you might as well get the XP Pen one, freely locks in any angle and is solid
>inb4 Chinese shill
fuck off guzzler you don't draw';

'How do I remove the "Cycle Layers" and "Brush Size" from the touch ring modifiers? I just got this tablet and these options are confusing me

>t. brainlet';

'>>7131958
Nevermind, I'm PROFOUNDLY retarded and figured it out.';

'Anyone has experience with mounting Cintiq 22'' on one of these Ergotron mounts?

I first had idea to put my main monitor on the mount but then I started looking around and I saw one yt video where guy mounted his Cintiq on Ergotron HX mount.

Then I did some Google Fu and saw that people are also recommending Ergotron LX mounts too.

I also just opened their site and they have handy tool for searching your device and seeing overall compatibility which is really neat.

But my question still stands, any of you mofos had any experience with these?';

'>>7124560
Having a literal multi-touch PC with a full-featured OS as your drawing implement is very nice for certain workflows,
but not having a consistently performant device can drive some people up the wall.
I've been using a Surface Book 3 with a cheapo third-party pen since launch to my satisfaction, but I will not deny the frustration of not knowing how the placement of my charging brick might influence/induce pen jitter and waviness for five or so minutes.';

'Samsung S9 FE+ for $499?';

'God damn it's impossible to keep my tablet screen completely clean';

'So I dropped my digital pen like an idiot and it broke. I only have like 60% of the pen left. It is completely functional, happily, but it kinda looks like shit. Don't want to spend money on a new one. Do you guys have any idea if there is anything I could cover it with? So it will look better.';

'S9 Ultra users -- which case do you use/recommend for the best drawing experience. Have the standard book cover case but it isn't the best for drawing (only configurations are flat and standing near straight-up, folding hinge doesn't hold if you apply pen pressure, etc.)';

'>>7134200
while i don't think any case is better than just using a separate stand for it, if you insist the official outdoor case has this adjustable handle on the back that's sturdy enough to hold while you're drawing';

'>>7134236
stand?';

'>>7133514
This is why you should go screenless';

'i bought a tablet recently and i want to know:
>is worth to adapt myself to drawing on the tablet (and ultimately switching from trad to digital)?
>what are the steps to adapt to digital drawing?';

'I've been using a tiny wacom I bought back in 2016 and now have the money to upgrade. I would just take the default rec on OP for a Galaxy tab but I also want to start 3D sculpting with a ripped ver of Z-Brush i have. Would the Galaxy tabs still be a good recommendation for this? I saw youtube videos of apps you can use to connect to a computer display but the recent comments complain it doesn't work anymore.';

'>>7134582
superdisplay works just fine on my s9 on android 14
i mean it works well enough as a display tablet that way and has basically no latency so if you want to use it on the go as well it should be fine';

'>>7127077
so he can hide the glow niggers that pay him';

'Im looking into 16 inches display tablets now. XP PEN 16gen2 seems like best option but in some comments people were complaining about PEN wobble... Also its pretty new device so no used ones to buy cheap.. Other option i see is cintiq 16, which i can get used in perfect condition for half the price of XP PEN. Im only worrying about screen AS i saw some photos of surface horibly scratched after just some months of use .
So my questions are; is pen wobble on XP PEN really that bad?
Would i need to install some pritective screen on cintiq to not scratch it? IF so which one is good ?
Any other input, opinions regarding those 2 tablets is greatly welcomed.';

'>>7135169
I'll let you know when I get the xp pen, saw them use it to make frieren so I'm saving up for it';

'>>7135214
XP Pen is trash.';

'>>7135214
>saw them use it to make frieren
post link';

'>>7128576
This looks really comfy, thanks for sharing';

'>>7135460
You don't draw, chud.';

'>>7135169
>XP PEN 16gen2
I have that one, paid the difference after my gen1 warranty return, which is well par for the course.
But desu gen1 build quality was atrocious, they tried to make it as thin a possible gladly they went back on that.
First off I don't have any wobble. The display colors are good and the pen is very precise without 'springiness" of previous generations/huion. I've stopped using it on my PC (went back to screenless) and instead for drawing on the couch.
What you have to keep in mind is the remote is separate and there's no buttons on the tablet. The remote also has just one wheel so you can't have instant access to brush size and zoom unless you map some buttons. You can configure the middle button to switch between zoom and brush size but it's not ideal either.
The screen itself is very good, comparable colors to a macbook pro.';

'>>7135465
https://www.instagram.com/xppen_ca/p/C4ItGbgPnTQ/?img_index=1';

'>>7121775
Is the cable that comes with the Deco 01 V1 any different than the one that comes with the Deco 01 V2? I just lost my V2 cable so I just want to know if the tilt will still work.';

'>>7135778
XP-Pen is trash. Time to let go.';

'does anyone know if the second gen apple pencil have better pressure sensitivity than first gen? I don't know if upgrading is worth it';

'Welp got a samsung tablet on the way

What should I know?';

'Wacom One CTL472 or Wacom CTL672??
Which one?';

'>>7135169
I've tried the Artist 15.6 Gen 1 or whatever with the red circle on the side, and it definitely has pen wobble with a ruler.

I just got the XP Pen Deco Pro gen 2, which as far as I know should have the same pen as the one you're looking at. It doesn't have any wobble, and it's -almost- as good as a Wacom from ~5 years ago.';

'>>7135169
>>7136225
Also if you can get a Cintiq for not much more, do that instead. The XP Pen will be 90% as good for a fraction of the price, it's just that drawing won't feel as seemless as on a Wacom.';

'Hello guys, I have Wacom Intuos 5 M for many years and I find it not very comfortable to draw because it's too slippery (?), I guess all tablets are like this. There are rough tips in the tablet kit, but they will scratch the surface... I'm thinking of buying a protective film, but there is no such film for intuos5 m anywhere. There is a film for Intuos5 pro, will it suit? Or which one will do...
Sorry for my not very good english lol.';

'Ah yes the budget option, the ipad. As the youth says deadass frfr';

'>>7136734
grab a used one??? or buy an s6 lite';

'>>7136734
OP doesn't draw and is a faggot';

'>>7136268
Try putting a piece of paper over it with tape';

'>>7136268
buy a protective film for a bigger one and just cut it';

'Fucking wobbly lines on a screen tablet. How do you guys deal with this shit? I have an XP Pen 16, but also a Wacom Intuos and a friend has a Cintiq and they all have this issue. Drawing diagonal lines, unless you just do a super-quick line, causes it to be wobbly/jittery.


Does everyone just set smoothing to a million to deal with this? I really don't like pen smoothing. I know it's not my hands jittering because I can make slow, smooth lines vertically and horizontally, or in any direction on paper.


I've searched around and there a ton of people with this issue but everyone just seems... fine with it? It's driving me crazy. Some have speculated it's an issue with windows Ink compatibility but my pressure sense doesn't work without it. Anyone know of a way to fix this bullshit?';

'>>7137029
My intuos did not have wobbly lines with a ruler, but my XP Pen did. It was annoying that it happened but realistically I'm never drawing lines slowly enough to notice it, practically ever. Get an Ipad or Cintiq if it bothers you enough because there's no fix for it';

'>>7137052
Do you just draw lines really quickly? It happens with any line that isn't like a quick gestural stroke really.


Would higher end tablets be better about this? I've seen this happening on ipads and cintiq's but it might have been older models';

'>>7137029
I have a cheap ass old screenless huion and it's fine
just tested it by drawing with a ruler, 0 stabilization
might be related to windows ink, since I don't have that enabled';

'>>7137057
What the fuck. Thanks for testing that, not sure what else to do about it on my end. I don't think it's a windows Ink issue, there's an option to turn it off in the XPPEN driver settings, and when I turn it off I lose pressure sense, but the lines still come out wobbly. I've tried it in PS/CSP/Paint and same results.


Is it possible there's some kind of screen protective coating that is making the surface slightly uneven? That would affect all lines though I figure, not just diagonal ones. I can still get smooth vertical/horizontal lines consistently with all the same settings.';

'>>7137068
the fact that it happens with both of your tablets makes me think it's a driver/software issue
and as you say, an uneven surface would also affect your verticals/horizontals';

'>>7137077
is it possible the wacom drivers are fucking with the XP PEN drivers even though the wacom isn't plugged in?';

'>>7137055
So the Artist 15.6 I was using was as you describe where only quick strokes have no wobble, but my newer generation Art Deco Gen 2 only wobbles when drawing reeeaaally slowly. The wobble on the Artist 15.6 annoyed me once I noticed it, but I'm using the Art Deco now and I have to draw slower than I ever do naturally to notice it. IDK if yours is using the newer X3 pen or the older one, but it might be that the wobble is better on the newer models, or that it's better on screenless tablets.';

'>>7137087
Also it's definitely possible, because my Wacom basically exploded whenever I had XP Pen drivers installed at the same time, to the point where I had to uninstall XP Pen drivers AND reinstall Wacom drivers to fix the issues.';

'>>7136772
have you tried it? paper will bubble up';

'>>7137029
if you use photoshop, there are guides online to force it to use wacom drivers after disabling windows ink';

'>>7137087
yes, my huion keydial drivers messed up my wacom one';

'>>7136268
Buy thick foil used to laminating docunents. Cut little bigger , tape to tablet with electric isolating tape. Thats it. Doesnt look pretty, but for jest few dollars you get smooth surface.and nibs will last very looooong time. IF you dont like it just take it off easily.';

'What are my options in terms of pens for a samsung tablet?';

'>>7137628
Wacom One pen, staedtler noris digital/jumbo, Lamy al-star digital';

'>>7137644
Are these better than the Spen they come with?';

'>>7137675
the wacom one pen has better pressure response, i haven't tried the rest';

'>>7135805
It's not like you have a choice, either your iPad supports gen 1 or gen 2. There isn't one that supports both.';

'>>7137721
I have a 2017 ipad pro, I'm thinking about upgrading';

'>>7137766
I'd say getting any ipad with an M series chip is worth it. Wireless charging on the 2nd Gen's is also a huge convenience but that's not something that effects drawing performance.';

'>>7137773
thanks';

'>>7130189
>rub the nib on your asian jeans
>asian jeans
what?';

'To any body who is coping like >>7130189 regarding nibs.
>>7127696 here, the nibs arrived and they work, no issues compared to the original wacom ones.
Can't post a link since the original listing is gone but if you know how aliexpress works it'll be fine since these chink sellers peddle the exact same products anyway.';

'>>7134547
Bump';

'How come apple is the only one with fat tips for their pencils?';

'>>7138010
>>7134547
Sketching and doodling is basically the same but worse, except undo.
The difference is finishing a drawing working with layers, different brushes like smudge or vector outlines if you want to.
You can also more easily make up for a lack of skill by pure time investment since if you fudge around on paper for 8 hours it will be chewed up.';

'>>7137959
coping?
literally rub a sharp nib on denim for 5 seconds in circles and its smooth again like your brain';

'reminder to not go screenless if you can avoid it
having switched to a screen tablet its pure cope to suggest otherwise outside of budget reasons.';

'>>7127779
wierd choice for those companies to devote time to advertise here, in a place where no one draws anyway?';

'I boight a Huion Kamvas GT 191 because it was super cheap, but it kinda lags and it's too bright for some reason
Am I fucked or there's some way to fix it?';

'>>7138335
yeah I'm sure hampton can't afford a screen tablet';

'>>7138165
Because for some reason only Apple realised that tiny ass nibs that are super easy to lose is a terrible fucking idea';

'Whats a good drawing software/any key differences between them?
I only know about photoshop and gimp but i assume there are others, how good are they for a beginer?';

'>haggled hard with seller
>got an out of box/excellent condition ipad 3rd gen for like 400 buckaroos
based. do i buy a screen protector...? apparently the paper textured ones wear down the nibs fast and aren't worth the extra money but i'm not sure. any recommendations';

'>>7134236
Sorry for the late reply -- which stand do you recommend? Seems this one is often mentioned for S9 Ultra https://www.amazon.com/LULULOOK-Magnetic-Galaxy-Tab-Ultra/dp/B0BWYHJ5YN?th=1 but I've heard some complaints about the magnetics affecting S-Pen if you draw too close to the sides';

'>>7125977
> better software

lmao';

'>>7139645
superDisplay is better than DuetDisplay and Astropad on the basis that it costs a one-time fee of $10, as opposed to $100 per year.';

'>>7139728
>>7139728
basing the entirety of what's better on cost is outing yourself as a poorfag. Sell 1 commission a year and pay for DuetDisplay.

Or just use Procreate on iPad like tons of real artists, one time $10 fee just like you love so much.

All android drawing software is ass compared to Procreate, and if you're just gonna say "WHAT ABOUT CSP ON ANDROID" then you're digging yourself back into the subscription hell you hate so much; not to mention the interface for CSP on android is absolute shite because they didnt design it for a tablet experience.

I have no dog in the Wacom vs Huion vs XP-Pen fight, as I only draw on my ipad. But I have owned a Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 and tried a ton of different android drawing software; its simply not as good as procreate on iPad.

you can bitch about the price all you want, or the need to charge the apple pencil (i've literally never once thought about the need to charge it since i just slap it on the side of my ipad when im done using it and it charges itself). The fact of the matter is the experience really is just better on iPad compared to android. When a decent procreate competitor comes out on Android I'll be first in line to buy a new Samsung tablet.';

'>>7139871
No, the point of buying superDisplay over DuetDisplay is paying a fair price instead of being grifted for a subscription. Stupid people like you might be happy to pay a subscription to Astropad or DuetDisplay for the privelage of using your iPad as a tablet for PC software, but I'd rather pay a more principled developer, delivering the same thing for a far more reasonable price.

Also Procreate isn't that much better than Infinite Painter or ArtFlow.';

'Can one of you niggers tell me something about this >>7138502 ?
It's the third fucking time I post about issues with this tablet, is this another retarded private club thread on the board?';

'>>7139983
You buy chinese junk, you deal with the consequences stupid retard.
This is why we advice against buying these, but you wouldn't listen and still complain.';

'Anyone else eyeing up the newer windows tablets for drawing? Specifically:
>Minisforum V3 (uses MPP2.0)
>LincStudio S1 (uses Wacom EMR)
I’m waiting to see someone test the Minisforum for drawing, test line quality etc. It would be the perfect tablet if it wasn’t using the windows pen protocol(which 5 years ago was the worst I had ever tried), but it’s gen 2 so maybe it’s better? On paper it’s pen specs are fine but I need to see this tested before I trust anything.
The LincStudio uses Wacom’s EMR but doesn’t have the other bells and whistles that would make it an all-purpose machine for me.
The iPad Pro has spoiled me at 120HZ for drawing but it’s starting to run into limitations for animation work.
The Minisforum would be able to do basically everything for me for a pretty long time for a decent price if the pen is actually GOOD.';

'>>7138978
CSP dawg. There are barely any relevant contenders.

Get that 3 month demo and wait for a sale, they happen all the time. you can get a permanent license on windows.';

'>>7134159
Show damage';

'>>7132469
Have one of those arms for a cintiq 16 from like 2020. Love it. It’s only ever been used with that 16 inch tho so see if someone else online has tested it with bigger tablets. I can vouch for it as a quality product by itself tho. Never tested cheaper mounting arms.';

'>>7130497
Everything mobile is moving toward 16:10 I’ve noticed. Gaming handheld PCs, laptops, and PC tablets, particularly. It’s probably to test the waters before TVs and desktop monitors. Theoretically more creative space = good.';

'>>7139983
I have a cintiq pro 24" and the refresh rate was set to 59hz by default and that made it lag. Changed it to 60hz and no problems.';

'>>7140337
>we
pyw btw';

'>>7140337
Well fuck you it's not like I'm so retarded I take whatever told on this board as absolute truth. Anyway thanks for replying at least
>>7140727
Ok thanks I'll see if I can work around that.';

'>>7121775
i recently got a huion drawing tablet for $113 AUD. did i make a mistake? it works fine, it does make wobbly lines sometimes and calibration isnt all that great but for the price is ok?';

'>>7140932
doesn't really matter, go draw';

'>>7140337
>We
You don't even draw, nigger.';

'>>7137077

I tried removing the screen protector and uninstalling all tablet drivers and reinstalling the xppen ones. Still happens. I double checked the screenless wacom and there actually is NO wobble, I guess I was just out of practice using the tablet without a screen, but with a ruler it made straight lines when I draw slowly.


It seems it's something to do with the XPPEN.

>>7137255
I am using the X3 elite plus pen that came with the tablet. It is the first gen XPPEN 16 pro, so yeah the 15.6in one. It's really frustrating and I've seen found other users complaining about this across many makes/models/brands and really the only answer 'that's just how they are.'


I've noticed that wobble is somehow related to the angle of the pen. The more perpendicular I hold the pen to the tablet, the less wobble I get, regardless of how hard I am pressing or the sens setting in the options. I have no idea where to go from here with that info. I swear there were some pen tilt settings in windows ink but i can't find that now.';

'>>7131243
>no wonder fzd and teal use screenless

Do you have source on that? especially teal line guy. Cheers';

'>>7131243
debating going back to my intuos. It's also just more comfortable to not have to constantly look down at the tablet (even when it's on a stand).';

'>>7142107
he told me one time i asked him, when he still visited this board.';

'>>7124320
>>7124338
Been using a 6th gen iPP for a couple of years for all my work, had been choosing between the iPP and a Wacom/laptop setup before that. With CSP and the incremental updates to iPadOS Files app, it’s finally good enough for a pro workload (storyboards). There are a lot of little drawbacks and workarounds compared to a full OS and Wacom but if you can get past those and need the mobility, t’s great. Only thing I really miss is a better way to sort and manage files for backups.';

'do you really neeeed a stand for ipad samsung drawing ergonomics? i justt have mine almost flat on the table slightly elevated and tilted';

'>>7142488
i like them plus they help with shrimp posture a bit';

'>>7142488
I put the box of a fit3 under the tablet when drawing and it has enough tilt/height for me';

'Just noticed something infuriating on my XP Pen Deco gen 2. The hover is only accurate to ~1mm, and it doesn't detect ANY horizontal movement less than that, causing it to jump once you move 1mm away from the last position. That's annoying, but the eraser is even worse. It doesn't detect any movement outside of over 1/2 a centimeter. So I have to zoom in and make wider strokes or guess at where I'm going to be erasing. I'll post a video later.';

'>>7142747
think that's just how they are, my intuos does this';

'>>7142760
The minimal movement on my intous' hover is less than 1mm, but so is the eraser's. It's definitely nowhere near 1/2cm like the XP Pen.';

'Where do you guys place your tablets? Right in front of the screen?
I was using it where the mouse would be for the longest time because my USB can't reach that far into my desk... Should I try to make sure my tablet is centered with my screen at all times?';

'>>7142548
>>7142760
>>7142912
Don't complain you literal whores,it's your god damn fault';

'>>7143050
Who asked the loser who doesn't draw?';

'I want to buy a new tablet, my 3 year old XP is starting to feel icky and looks dirty from all the sweat, dust and cheeto dust

Should i get a Huion Kamvas Pro 24 or just wait until the end of the year and try to buy a Cintiq pro 24. Does the Kamvas has parallax and wobble like the XP-Pen?';

'I can't stand display tablets anymore. its just a hype scam, get a 50 dollar pen tablet that has all the functionalities instead.';

'>>7143311
if you post on this website you're already spending way too much time staring at screens
buy some nice trad materials and get away from the screen, if anything your eyes will thank you';

'I recently took a break from digital for a couple of days and just doodled on pencil/paper. Everything is so much easier and turns out better, wtf. I'm not new to tablets/digital, but I just realized how much of a struggle it is to have the same level of control of my lines.';

'>>7131243
I don't know if it's because I've had a significant size change (intuos pro medium -> cintiq pro 24) but I find I get so much more control on the cintiq, weird. I guess everyone's different.';

'>>7143311
Neither huion nor xp-pen has proper parallax compensation for tilt.
The only thing either has is a calibration mode where it compensates for the tilt you used when calibrating.
You can use the parallax mitigation plugin for opentabletdriver that are supported, by it but that tend to be older models.';

'what's with the weird iPad pencil's nib? It's incredibly thick and weird to try out
I tried it and the samsung on a tab s9 plus and the stylus seemed much better. Not getting the ultra, too big for portability

Not trying to start shit but with the ipad pencil do you just actually get used to the nib being fairly large compared to a pencil or even a pen';

'>>7143749
I have an S9 ultra and I actually feel like I could use a bigger tip on the pencil ala apple';

'>>7143716
i think it's a matter of habit for me. i learned to draw trad, so it's comfortable for me when i do it, but i also learned to paint on screenless and i really feel disconnect when i poke at the screen with a pen that's blocking a quarter of my view (slight exageration).
or maybe it is the screen size issue. ipad's 12.9' vs monitor's 38'

>>7143749
you can buy replacement nibs that are smaller, but they are more likely to scratch the screen or the screen protector. beware, though some nibs and screen protectors don't match and can make squeeky noises.';

'any particular thoughts on changing nibs for an S pen from samsung? or vids on the matter that aren't fucking retarded and get to the point';

'>>7143097
People who draw professionally use Wacom, stupid incel
>>7143311
>>7143721
Ching Chong I will fuck your mom';

'>>7144316
>>7121818';

'>>7144316
Who asked the loser who doesn't draw?';

'My wacom CTH-680's pen tip no longer functions but the eraser side is working fine so I'd like to use it as the drawing tip. However, going into wacom's settings and configuring the eraser side as 'pen tip' still caused CSP to pick it up as an eraser. Even uninstalling all drivers and installing a new one (OpenTabletDriver) and setting the eraser side as 'button: pen tip' still registers as the eraser side in CSP. Tried going into CSP > modifier key settings > tail switch to 'none' but that just disables the use of the pen. I've been spending the last few hours looking for a solution but all I could find is some forum post from 5 years ago asking the same question and getting no answer (https://ask.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=12805)

someone please tell me there's an easy solution to registering the eraser nib as the pen nib, its driving me crazy';

'>>7144349
Nice try Chang, we all know that Wacoms are perfect and never breaks';

'>>7144349
video of the issue; I just want the eraser head to function as the pen';

'>>7144349
Fix your pen bro';

'>One by Wacom
>Wacom One (screen tablet)
>Wacom One (screenless tablet)

What the fuck are those japs smoking, what kind of naming scheme is this?';

'you will never know the joy of using a stroke nib unless you';

'Is the s9 fine for drawing? Is it possible to put a cracked version of csp on it?
I need one for taking notes and doing a lot of writing. It would be nice to use it alongside drawings. My xp pen tablet has connection problems after reconnecting it a few times with the usb cord.
I don't know, but the tablet feels cheap. I even used it with extra care.';

'>>7144977
I mean yes? If you need the tablet for a lot of shit, then yeah it makes sense';

'>>7144606
What do these feel like?';

'>>7145490
they feel like a brush. a very soft touch';

'>>7144606
Are the ipad pens?';

'>>7145766
no, ipads are tablets';

'>>7145766
no, exclusive to intuos wacom';

'Ive been using a huion for like 5 years now. I got money coming in from a commission and looking to upgrade. Whats the best I could get for around 150? Screenless obviously';

'Why does my Chink Brand® tablet screeching whenever I do long strokes? It's my 3rd year of using it
It's irritating as fuck! Sadly I am a favela poorfag and I think I can only afford a paper textured screen protector.
If that's the issue: Which do you recommend me?';

'>>7121775
Woah that Wacom One is actually really cheap wtf
As someone who never did anything digital, what software is recommended for Windows users? I saw that Apple users have Procreate which looks really neat';

'https://estore.wacom.com/en-de/wacom-movink-13-dth135k0b.html?irclickid=wVnyQJQCHxyPWjx3fE3in3jRUkHT370JNSxySQ0&irgwc=1

So this is the new wacom product for 2024. A 13 inch OLED display for 850 dollars. It's supposedly a super-light pen display too.';

'>>7146756

https://youtu.be/_3RmwoFt5c0?si=PJo6Xntu5QSeawPO

Here's the promo vid';

'>>7146756
in that size i'd rather wait for the new ipad';

'>>7146763

I am expecting a 16 inch version for 1000 USD or more will be out later this year.

I'd rather get a used cintiq 16, apart from the OLED tech there isn't much to be hyped about.';

'>>7146756
this is impressively out of touch, who is this for?';

'Hey motherfuckers, I'm the faggot that bought the Chinese junk huion again. I noticed that the cursor isn't perfectly aligned with the pen, it's normal for monitor tablets due to the glass thickness or some other shit, or it's because I'm using a piece of shit?
If there's no way to fix it I'll just go back to the screenless Wacom';

'>>7146840

Have you tried messing with software settings?';

'>>7146849
Only with photoshop sensitivity stuff since the huion settings are shiy amd don't let you fiddle around much, but it doesn't change anything. I'm pretty sure it's the tablet because the cursor point changes slightly after recalibrating it';

'>>7143721
Yeah but my shitty XPen doesn't either. I ended up purchasing the kwamvas pro, 6 months, apparently it has no parallax but we'll see.

>>7146756
>Oled
>drawing
>can purchased a S9 or an Ipad at that pricepoint

lolmao';

'>>7146840
> it's normal for monitor tablets due to the glass thickness
Yes it's called parallax and it's really hard to get used to. Talking from my own experience but they all seem to have parallax and wobble, some simply have less than others.';

'I do 3d stuff and I want a work station with good specs I can use on the go. Are there any good all in one pc tablets or should I just tape a drawing tablet on the back of a laptop?';

'>>7146925
Oh ok thanks. Guess I can only suck it up then';

'>>7146756
>https://estore.wacom.com/en-de/wacom-movink-13-dth135k0b.html?irclickid=wVnyQJQCHxyPWjx3fE3in3jRUkHT370JNSxySQ0&irgwc=1
pros:
-pro pen 3, with 3 buttons (this is lightyears better than apple pencil)

cons:
-slippery screen with anti-glare layer (compared to etched glass on pro cintiq with minimal parallax), reportedly doesn't feel like paper AND antiglare film nulifies any benefits of OLED
-tiny display that isn't much better than ipp, so that limits UI elements it can hold, making it useful at best for doodles and insignificant projects
-non-portable
-cintiq 16 is almost the same price but bigger display

the only real upside i see is the pro pen 3 integration.
owning intuos 4 large and IPP, i'd rather upgrade to cintiq pro lineup, even 17 at a crazy price would be better, but i'm happy with what i have';

'>>7146905
>Yeah but my shitty XPen doesn't either. I ended up purchasing the kwamvas pro, 6 months, apparently it has no parallax but we'll see.
It's not really parallax either. I'd more call it wrong tilt. You'd expect that when you tilt your pen the cursor stays at the point where the nib touches the surface.
This is however not how the hardware works because the coil is somewhere inside the pen. What would be needed is simple trigonometry that moves the cursor forward according to the length of the nib and the angle of tilt.
For some reason chink drivers do not to that, so it's not really parallax (which is related to the thickness of the glass) oh and all tablets have it to some extent.
That includes modern laminated displays where the glass directly touches the lcd that effect however is minuscule compared to the "wrong tilt"';

'>>7121776
retard put layer of transparent of paper like shit on screen. did not re-calibrate his pen and wonders why does it not work anymore..';

'>>7134312
https://www.idealo.co.uk/compare/203060568/samsung-galaxy-tab-s9-outdoor-cover.html';

'>>7147242
you can also fake the pressure and ruler test with trad
oh and also btfo multiple times';

'>>7146840
>>7140727';

'>>7147265
it only lags behind when you have stabilization turned up';

'>>7147328
Yeah thanks I already took note of that but I don't want to change anything before I finish what I'm working on atm';

'My DTH-A1300 - Cintiq Companion Hybrid in finally going to sleep. Moving on to the Wacom Movink 13, let see how it goes.';

'>>7147414
let us know what you think of it once you get it and use it';

'after using wacom medium size, huion giano and q11k v2, id rather use a small tablet
is the small intuos pro that much worth getting over the intuos version?';

'>>7147562
>>7147562
>>7147562';

'>>7146983
>13 inch
Looks like slop. Just buy a Galaxy Ultra.';

'>>7146905
What is wrong with OLED for drawing?';

'>>7146453
Because it's a poor quality piece of crap.';

'>>7142488
Those things are not fit for drawing.

Better off getting a proper VESA mount + bracket from Amazon.';

'>>7147572
>>7147573
>>7147575
>>7147576
>bumping and samefagging his own thread to limit
weak nigger';