'bazed fzd';

'>>7131850
this should be good. i'm betting on him being pro-ai though, he always said he viewed himself and the concept art industry as problem solvers and not artists';

'>>7131850
Future video ideas';

'>>7131850
>it took pajeets and techbros shitting up every art website for him to come back
the styx would spit those subhumans out so I can't blame fzd for getting mad enough to come back to jewtube to shit on them';

'>1. scam /v/tards out of 50k in singapore';

'>>7131850';

'>>7131850
interesting, he doesn't talk about the school folding past a disagreement with the landlord over rent prices but that he just "took a break" and moved on to the next topic (the fucking video games he played)
overall good vid for a return; most of /ic/ is past le concept art phase so it's not going to affect them because it's very specific to entertainment design';

'>>7131850
Hi spirit';

'>>7131961
>was considering buying a million dollar building
wtf he's loaded';

'>>7132042
must not be that loaded if he said it was a big upfront-cost to begin with';

'his rant against the 'small dude, big object' portfolios was spot on
I also look forward to his videos on using/balancing 3d';

'>>7132090
his rant about student's entertainment design portfolios still not showing entertainment design (fucking 10 years later) is fucking hilarious';

'>>7131850
just finished. Pretty good video. Making lots of point I have made about AI in threads here, but it's great to see it with tons of visual examples.';

'>>7132094
Feng HATES stick salesmen';

'>>7131850
does he embrace AI?
does he care about data theft?';

'>>7132142
he doesn't go over it, just says that it'll be more and more seen as a tool going forward to the future the same way digital canvases/zbrush/3d modeling for mockups were';

'>>7132172
>just says that it'll be more and more seen as a tool going forward to the future the same way digital canvases/zbrush/3d modeling for mockups were

same, I agree with this greatly';

'>>7132182
We know you do, Deepak.';

'>>7131961
>he doesn't talk about the school folding past a disagreement with the landlord over rent prices
Did you watch the whole video?';

'>>7132241
nta but I did. rent doubled so they had to close the school for the time being, a new place would be hard/take time to set up, so he used that time to go do stuff. implied something was set in motion regarding a new school location but no detail given.';

'fucking hell yes.
fzd is still there for us. i’ve seen pretty much every vid at least twice by now, can’t wait for the new content.
>/quaffing and joy';

'Is it just me or does his space and niche not even remotely relate to most artists out there? generative AI is obviously not focused on the meticulous details of design so all the actual issues don't matter in the grand scheme of things to him? lol';

'>>7132289
most artists out there no, but that number might dwindle if they don't pivot into doing things AI can't...';

'>>7132293
Pretty sure it's already dwindled, and effectively discouraged quite a number of people who would've otherwise pursued something in art as well. What's the point when any schmuck can just train a model on anything you output and 100x the speed and maintain 90% quality lol. Pivoting is fine for now, but for how long? At some point it just becomes a reality that there's not much left for artists to compete against';

'>>7132301
>90% quality
let's not exaggerate the issue';

'>>7132301
did you even watch the video? the entire point of it was that there are major limitations to what it can do beyond making things that look pretty at a glance, and unless we move past machine learning algorithms and into creating sentient artificial life, "AI" cant make the decisions that design requires';

'>>7132305
For all intents and purposes, most normies and people who don't have the observational skills the 90% is a reality unfortunately. We've seen companies get away with even less quality if it means cutting costs as well';

'>>7132306
I did, most of the positives he pointed out are at the high level technical that few of the few skilled artists are a part of. The majority of artists out there nowadays don't even touch that level of work.

Making things look pretty on the surface level is pretty much all you need to impress normies sadly. I really hate consoooomers almost as much as insufferable techbros too. As much as I do agree with the design aspects and inherent decision making, that is not even applicable to most working artists that will be impacted. Even if they pivot > there's not much room left until something also gets better in the realm of AI and cuts costs further and lowers the baseline for every artist again and again.';

'>>7132307
Nah. Normalfags are already starting to pick up on when something is AI or not and it's starting to become synonymous with lazy low quality products and scams in the public eye. Maybe your average facebook boomer will never be able to tell the difference but I can't imagine that's the audience most people here were aiming for anyway. You guys have always been too quick to doom.';

'>>7132307
normies hate AI now, thanks to social media momentum.

get fucked, /g/fags';

'>>7132311
oh yeah, I can agree with that. I think the average artist that just likes to draw pretty pictures (me included) are fucked (as far as making a living out of commissions goes) unless you're skilled enough to draw an audience regardless. The baseline just to get to not-/beg/-tier has always been rising but its probably getting unreasonably high for many';

'>>7132317
We'll see, I have no accurate way to gauge it and I would be biased if seeing people dunk on AI on twitter was enough proof but I know that's not the actual normie base.

>>7132319
I feel like none of that matters, even the people who say they hate AI will glady play the newest FOTM game made by a studio that actively champions and uses gen AI and make excuses.

>>7132321
Yeah, making a living with art is going to be much harder on the illustration side. When you're competing with hordes of NAI and SD users actively img2imging all the popular styles and works at an exponential rate, it eats up a lot of the potential opportunity for newer artists who could've been. Probably one of the saddest things about all of this.';

'Literally who';

'>>7132344
Some scamming chink that hasn't worked in the art industry since the 90s.';

'>>7132344
guy who designed general grievous';

'>>7132370
*helped design';

'>>7132319
Based sheeple for once mobbing against something correct';

'>>7131850';

'>>7132344
Inventor of "just draw"';

'>>7132328
I see normies using AI as a synonym for "scam" or "boring" or "uninspired". I don't have any data either but I think normies at large are definitely rejecting AI by now.';

'>>7132505
sadly that's not the case. Ai slop vids would get millions of view. You go to the comment section and see a 40/60 where one camp say don't care if it's ai as long it looks cool/hot and the other one says they didn't know it was ai until someone pointed it out. You see it on tiktok, fb, and probably insta. Good thing you have to label your post as ai, or it gets taken down.';

'>>7132505
like look at the amount of views and likes these vids get
https://www.tiktok.com/@nazgaafx/video/7341834674450255136

https://www.tiktok.com/@nazgaafx/video/7342619568935914785

https://www.tiktok.com/@sanjisboingboingstick/video/7343132861723118891

https://www.tiktok.com/@makoto.16/video/7341806255465401632';

'>>7132508
the characters and the fans feelings about them drive those views, so it's not boring, it's their favorite character in a novel situation.
>*squeeeeeeeee glomps tanjorubi*';

'>>7132531
*Show me an AI created character that people are fans of';

'>>7132532
Technically an algorithm.';

'>>7132543
I haven't seen it. So he was told what to say by a computer and became president or something?';

'Oof, bit unfortunate that he made this whole video with a pretty surface level understanding of generative AI. The whole premise of this video is based on his impression that AI already understands all the drawing fundamentals that artists learn, and that there will be no coming regulation around genAI. Any serious artists who has used genAI enough or knows how machine learning works already knows this isn't true, these AI models don't understand anything, let alone understand how perspective, anatomy, or composition works. He also glosses over the training data issue with a "eh they'll probably sort it out...i guess" type of response. I don't think he's really considered that this whole genAI thing will come crashing down if regulation around training data is put in place, which is already just starting to happen around the world. I guess I'm not too surprised to see him make a video like this, but its unfortunate that a lot of aibros are going to parade his talking points around as validation from a pro artist, despite his elementary grasp on AI.';

'>>7132596
He didn't even see the mistakes in the AI examples he showed, the fingers were missing in that animu face.';

'>>7132621
There's a term in the STEM world called engineer's syndrome, which is when your expertise in one specific domain fools you into thinking you know more than you really do and it's what Feng is guilty of here. He's so far into the industrial design rabbit hole that he struggles to understand how other domains like illustration really work.';

'>>7132172
>>7132182
honestly, to figure out what the tool becomes you need to see what the end user wants.
Seeing the HUGE traction that traditionally made games and retro games have on the public from the last data (60% of players play older games)

Honestly, i see the normies i draw for look at boomer draftmanship and painting with reverence. I see zoomers and alphies discover retro, from autists to schoolgirls and giving massive price hikes to those styles. The artists who sell best are the ones well-connected to their communities. It's all about soul, interaction, meaningful experiences. The only reason people buy those photobashed and AI things is for marketing/hype/wacky reasons like NFTs or ads, which no one wants to fucking see anyway.';

'>>7132319
It's better yet. /g/ autists are fucked because the new coding tools solve github issues faster than human coders today. Soon you'll be able to put your shitty project with 1000 bugs on github, pay a sub, and it will make it work faster than any programmer can. The next game engine will have it incorporated in the engine itself. Coding might actually disappear in the next 5-10 years. We'll have natural language to assembly and it will be OVER for them.';

'>>7132505
ironically artists tend to be normies on twitter. When AI art dropped, all these normies flipped and their normie followers followed suit. When big name celebs that make pretty pictures say something is a scam, emotional normies tend to listen. It's the same with the current dune wars. The propaganda machine couldn't even spin into action before every normie who saw civvies being bombed in Gaza was aligned against Israel through their lefty icons';

'>>7132668
its funny to hear craig mullins take on ai, he sounds like one of those futurism singularity fanboys, he goes into a rant about it on some recent podcast';

'>>7132709
link?';

'>>7132712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eayo0XXse_M';

'>>7132690
doubt.jpg
I don't know shit about coding, but I've been playing with text ai and I honestly think its capacity to "understand" language is literally one step above auto-suggest, with art gen ai being even worse somehow, and considering how bad at communicating their half-baked vaguely conceptualized art briefs my clients are, I can't imagine "alexa, build me a video game" is going to be usable without a coder. My /gd/ sister also said her company tried to make them use ai of some sort for web design and the results were what you'd expect from someone trying to make a web page with a blindfold on.';

'>>7132709
>>7132723
Oh god I remember listening to this and cringing hard when I heard Craig citing Yudkowsky as an AI expert. Absolute boomer moment. Similar thing happend when Gurney posted on his blog about AI back when it first popped off, saying it was doing the same thing humans do when they learn.';

'>>7132668
>engineer's syndrome
Kek, it's like a different form of dunning krueger.';

'>>7132739
I've heard people unironically saying AIs run companies, as in literally making contracts, trading, ordering supplies etc in response to someone asking them to make a business for them';

'>>7132668
>>7132596
haha bro you're so delusional it's insane';

'>>7131850
i love that phrase - 99% percent of student portfolios are indistinguishable from AI already. Funny because its true, just the endless regurgitation, and the media industry reflects that. We live in the dark ages where the tools are more powerful then ever but the people are unable to use them.';

'>>7133159
the portfolios are what they are because that's what gets you hired
if the employers wanted something else, portfolios would reflect that because your portfolio isn't a personal statement or your blog, it's what's you send to the employer to get money from him';

'>>7131961
and yet it still was the biggest inside in to his personal life he ever brought up that is not a career advice. Hes getting old.';

'>>7133159
It's because the internet (and especially social media) exists in a negative feedback loop with the imagination.

Creativity is a garden. It's inbred as fuck at this point, and the industries have brought out the worst impulses and allowed them to flourish like never before.

This is why trend chasing should be demonized at every possible turn. It's not harmless, it destroys everyone and everything.

Most artists today get almost all of their inspiration from images online. Everything is derived from a limited meme pool. We are eating ourselves alive in a cage of our own making.';

'>>7133167
they hire from whats available';

'>>7133176
there's far more artists than jobs, retard, it's a buyer's market
feng himself made his money not by working in the industry but by telling people how to get into the industry because even before he and the rest of the ca bubble snake oil salesmen oversaturated the market beyond repair, there weren't enough jobs
again, nobody makes a portfolio to not get hired and nobody tricks people they want to hire into sending them portfolios that they aren't looking for
you don't work';

'>>7133159
>meanwhile, feng's portfolio';

'>>7133193
>100% authentic ai proof human problem solving';

'>>7133195
this is some quintessential problem solving portfolio shit right here';

'>>7133193
forgot this place if full of bitter permabegs
heres his work for Star-Wars ep. III';

'>>7133203';

'>>7133203
that's his actual portfolio, retard, did you miss the final fantasy logo on half the images?';

'>>7133210
https://m.imdb.com/name/nm1962364/
once you are on the credits of star wars you can do whatever you want with your portfolio';

'>>7133261
you mean like switch careers until your business collapses and then desperately try to become relevant again long after the bubble burst and nobody cares about you or your field anymore?';

'>>7133318
>nobody cares
the entertainment/art industry is bigger that /ic/s social media-patreon-pornbucks microcosm, silly nigger';

'>>7133261
thats unfortunate because their newer (7+) designs are trash. Total money embezzlement in my opinion';

'>>7133364
he doesn't work in the industry, he's a youtuber and teacher
he was never famed for his designs, he has no street cred to fall back on
>inb4 hurt durr
name 3 designs he's known for
not a franchise he was vaguely involved with, what he actually designed';

'>>7133261
That's like the ferrari guy repeating he worked at Disney for a summer 20 years ago.';

'You're always so obvious when you shill here, Feng.';

'>>7133405
as if he would actually bless us with his presence';

'>>7133417
Lurk before posting, newfag.';

'>>7133210
He said in the video that his own portfolio has some images like what he criticized. Some jobs do ask for that kind of thing, establishing shape language for environments, cultures etc. He said students come in and all the images are similar, without any design like that, just little guy, big shape.';

'>>7133417
switch it up a bit, feng';

'god damn i shouldnt come here, its just madness. If you want to achieve anything get out';

'see you next time you're short on cash';

'in the post-AI world, the premier artists will be the ones creating new styles and finding ways subtle and overt to arrange engaging compositional elements.
the threads on /g/ and /h/ are unironically some of the better resources and places to get feedback in learning how these tools work.

i imagine that nip freelancers/doujin hawkers/DLsite mongers will be the first to command sufficient mastery of manual artistry, computer assisted shading, and perverse/audacious composition to be the man-machine uber-artists of our generation.';

'>>7133395
>he has no street cred to fall back on
And yet the opposite happens? He get huge jobs regularly and charges a premium. He was describing in the video about a recent one where he spent a month designing a single mech inside and out for a movie.';

'>>7133436
MADNESS
BEAUTIFUL MADNESS
GAHAHAHAHHHHAAAAAHFPGGHSDFk
Kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves. Kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves.Kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves.Kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves.Kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves.Kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves.Kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves.Kill feng kill yourselves kill yourselves kill yourselves.';

'>>7133447
oh yeah, what jobs?';

'>>7133431
Hah it really read like it's him. False flag?';

'>>7133451
Idk I just take his word for it. I'm sure he'll pop up in the credits of another movie 6 month from now. Seems like COVID and his school situation put a halt to a lot of stuff. 2019 (battle angel alita) was his latest credit.';

'>>7133459
so one alleged mech design in 5 years is "huge jobs regularly"?';

'>>7133447
Oooooo a movie with a mech in it!

I'll bet it's a real prime cultural mover that will be remembered for generations to come.

Where did concept artists get this ridiculous idea that they matter when all they do is pump out generic slop for generic slop movies?';

'Someone ITT is seething because his generic portfolio got called out';

'>>7133469
with every reply you out yourself more as a retarded nodraw
but you can surely dispel that by posting your mech drawings';

'>>7133467
That's just what he said. You doubt that clients don't come to him regularly? He was gloating in the video that after AI, he saw an increase in jobs, contrary to expectations that it would kill concept art.';

'>>7133479
>concept art school owner said concept art is booming in concept art video on his concept art youtube channel with the same name as his concept art school
that's real cool, shame all those jobs are super secret and he can't name one in the last 5 years';

'>>7133469
>I'll bet it's a real prime cultural mover that will be remembered for generations to come.
>Where did concept artists get this ridiculous idea that they matter when all they do is pump out generic slop for generic slop movies?
>A movie with an alien in it? Pffft! What a load of wank!
>HR giger gently weeps';

'>>7133483
>shame all those jobs are super secret
NDA. He has a track record. I don't see a reason to lie. Name a movie studio that replaced artists with AI art for design.(Not marketing)';

'>>7133488
>alien doesn't look like a penis
>spaceship walls don't look like penises
>spaceship doors don't look like vagina
>spaceship cockpit doesn't look like a gynecologist table
>HR giger gently weeps';

'>>7133495
that's not how NDA works unless all the "huge jobs" he "regularly" worked on never got produced
>Name a movie studio that replaced artists with AI art for design
name a post where I even implied that';

'>>7133499
>never got produced
Sure. Quite likely he was involved in lots of movie pitches.
>name a post where I even implied that
Sorry for assuming, in a thread about a video a guy made, in direct response to the idea AI is going to replace concept artists.';

'>>7133509
>pitch
>huge job
>premium
come on now
>Sorry for assuming, in a thread about a video a guy made, in direct response to the idea AI is going to replace concept artists.
you should be sorry, try responding to actual posts instead of making up strawmen to win an argument on the internet';

'>>7133518
ok
>concept art school owner said concept art is booming in concept art video on his concept art youtube channel with the same name as his concept art school
there, that's where you implied the opposite';

'>>7133524
I implied nothing, I plainly stated feng isn't part of the industry runs a parallel business revolving around people paying him in hopes of getting a job in the industry, to which you presented the claim that he "regularly gets huge jobs that he charges a premium on" with zero evidence of any work whatsoever and now you're butthurt
last reply, you're either mentally challenged, feng or both';

'>>7133534
Definitely both. Feng is well known for throwing temper tantrums here. He just can't help himself.';

'>>7133552
I'm not Feng but I am mentally challenged because I believed his words based on his track record.';

'>>7133591
A track record of what? Landing gigs for shit films, forgettable games, and other disposable cultural 'touchstones?'

Guy aspired to nothing substantial and has achieved nothing of note. He'll die forgotten and unneeded. Just like you!';

'>>7133612
>A track record of what?
of being part of the industry. so you think he just lied when he said he was working recently? about clients coming to him with AI generated shit for him to fix?
>just like you!
uh huh, and right back at you pal.';

'>>7133612
You are like what a bitter 45 year old failed artist who never held a job and miserable enough to grace us with your presence.
Take your meds and go to sleep old man.';

'>>7133627
I'm not an artist.
You're right on all other points, though. Good work. You must have had to think really hard to arrive at that incredibly insightful conclusion.
Kill yourself.';

'>>7133618
>AI generated shit for him to fix.

And soon he won't need to fix anything or draw ever again. Bye bye, Feng, you were never special.';

'>>7131850
>Starts the video with mentioning he's been partying around world while his retarded students kill themselves over AI.';

'>>7132621
This is the problem with AI, there's all these errors once you look in but on the surface it looks impressive and good but the more you look the worse it gets.';

'>>7133203
Digital rots your brain, I've said it before but Feng was alright when he was actually still drawing, once you get trapped in the Photoshop brush painting you get nonsensical images such as these:
>>7133195
>>7133193
You need to hand paint to keep your work grounded.';

'>>7133630
At least you admitted it and being honest with yourself.';

'>>7133193
>>7133195
>this is your brain on "concept art"
grim';

'>>7132668
exactly. this guy is off the fucking rails.

if it isn't obvious 30% into the video by now, he is desperate. either for a good studio location or he is actually threatened. Just think about how many times he has said "oh but our students are fine" or "oh but the friends/senior artists I know are bombarded with more jobs" because of what OUR school teach.

This is a promotional schtick disguised as him trying to help/discuss about A.I. 15 minutes in and he shat on all the artists and their portfolio because they were more illustration based as if their work being similar to A.I. meant that they didn't work their ass off to achieve that. Like the actual fuck man, this is an artist that is more than willing to shit on other artist if it meant more money to himself or to get that sweet, sweet ego boast.

If you can photobash fucking background, you can photobash materials and A.I blueprint from engineers and then work off based on that so yes, his industry can also be fucked and is likely already fucked but he needs that money so his back to grind PR for new students.';

'>>7134622
oh just wanted to add because I'm extremely pissed is that I'm a singaporean and Chinese (not from PRC but chink or whatever) and this exactly the bullshit asians pull on each other to get them to buy more. Like, you don't understand me enough when I say that I can feel the fucking chink in his DNA jumping right at me and every fiber of me can feel that I'll do anything for money chinkness.

Man fuck this guy.';

'incase the rest hasnt seen the video yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTj1Y4JW-KI&t=4194s';

'>>7132709
What was Craig’s take on it?';

'>>7133706
he's too based for /ic/';

'>>7134658
lately he's like "AI is better than me"
which only goes to show that he is just like any old insecure artist who only sees the falws in thier own work, since his work looks better than any AI I have seen.';

'>Crying about art dying when the art you care about has been unmarketable starving artist tier shit and was oversaturated 10 years ago already anyway.

Let's be real, if you can be replaced by AI your art wasn't worth anything in the first place because there was always a cheaper human.';

'>>7134632
pyw i want to see what asian jeans are capable of';

'>>7134721
his job is to shit out concepts, ai is objectively better than him at that job
if he could bring himself to use his experience and knowledge to just shit out a million images in the time it takes him to paint one, if he winds up with even 2 images that accomplish even 80% of what his normal work does, he'd already be massively "better at his job"
it's why feng went all in on photobashing space shuttles, because it makes him better at the job than drawing, artistic quality is not what the job is about';

'>>7131850
>Shitting on AI
Who is this man? I wanna suck his di-er I mean subscribe';

'I always said it, the fuckers who kitbashed were a sick joke. The pitchers who demanded 80 kitbashed concepts between pre-production talks (3-5 weeks tops to finish, kek) to pretend they had done the prelim work to get that sweet sweet cash for their next project (read: hookers and blow) were just well-connected alcoholic, drugged out pieces of shit turning artists, who suck cock through their entire school career and can't imagine their teachers to be wrong into absolute retards to go along with their demands.

Who the fuck ever watched those fucking kitbashes and said "yeah, this the artistic vision for our movie"?
Every single great work hard real art, art teams, or famous artists pouring their souls on them over rabid creative nights and days. It's no fucking wonder AI shits out "better work", because that isn't creativity, it LITERALLY is what the industry has demanded for 20 years: rehashed, averaged, market researched rinse and repeat tripe with 0 artistic value, only the shallow appearance of it, blatantly stolen from classic works.
So of fucking course AI is gonna steal your concept work of ugly derivative trash, and you should drop on your knees and cry in thanks, because it's better to starve on a street corner than do a single piece like that, turning one random guy into a highly paid, washed out piece of shit and in turn 10000 promising, talented artists into conditioned idiots attempting to "break into" an industry that literally exist on the premise that their role is useless. What a fucking joke.
Say thanks AI is exposing industries that were killing art for the dying trash they they are. But stop fucking confusing Art, which is human communication by default, with mass produced tripe. For fuck's sake, try to remember what art is if you wanna be an artist. It's meaning even before beauty, because anything meaningful is inherently beautiful. No algorithm can change that just because it can mix and match pieces from billions of works.';

'>>7134828
It's complete and utter dogshit. The only thing it can do is highly specific illustration that is derivative of source material.
It's a toy for nodraw faggots. The guy who used to draw unfunny shit can now type it.
What could be a legitimate use for NNs is repetitive tasks like textures, repeating patterns, smart transform tools, resize/reshape tools, brush strokes. But that's hard and requires thinking, so it will never be a thing. Adobe tried, but its attempt is half-assed as usual.';

'>>7133883
It doesn't matter. People on social media will look at it for no more than a few seconds at best.';

'>>7135426
I need you to read that post again before attempting to engage again because you addressed absolutely nothing I've said, or more importantly what craig mullins said about his own job. your personal opinion about the quality of the product is irrelevant, you don't seem to understand the point of concept art.';

'>>7131961
But photoshop did kill traditional art at least in a commercial level';

'>>7133193
>>7133195
he is exactly the person who will be out of a job lmao
But I guess he can still grift peopel';

'>>7135919
You do realize these are decades old and there's a difference between starting trends chasing them?

Let's see you work on any of these IPs https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1962364/';

'feng mad';