'>>7133506
cont
i feel like a faliure because i literally spent a year trying to pass this fucking class';

'>>7133506
>”figure drawing class in college”
>assinment
>toutor
>lierally
>studying animation
You have to be 18 to post here';

'>>7133516
i'm 24 turning 25';

'>>7133544
Anon I started drawing 4 years ago and that’s the level I started at, there is no way you’ve been drawing for 4 years and are this ass unless you’re ~14
and YES i will post my work give me time';

'>>7133506
How the fuck do you fail in a face to face figure drawing class? you can literally call the retard "teacher" to literally red line your paper and have him draw beside your drawing so you have guide reference to follow and redraw the figure.

jesus fuck and here I am stuck with self study
and some westerner is getting actual help in class and still fucking fail basics';

'>>7133506
>>7133544
>started 4 years ago
>going to a tutor 2 days a week at school
Either you are lying faggot or there is seriously something wrong with your brain.If you are really bad at proportions try the 8 heads measurement for few days.';

'Ideal frog proportions

Solution: draw frogs';

'Billions must loom';

'Anon if you aren’t taking the piss try tracing what you’re trying to draw and compare the tracing to your sketch. Notice the difference in proportion. Mabye even try grid drawing';

'>>7133628
OP what is his name?';

'>>7133549
my work (sketch), a treeman';

'>>7133506
>4 years
>No roomis sensei
ngmi';

'Explain your learning process. I have a hard time believing your tutor would just let you symbol draw with no results.';

'>>7133506
Timmy? Is that you?';

'Your tutor is an Indian or you need to give up drawing';

'The tutor is farming you.';

'>>7133971
>Your tutor is an Indian
Is that a thing (that Indians suck at art)? My sister also had an Indian art mentor who didn’t teach her shit. She stopped going because he’d keep staring at her creepily';

'>>7133506
There's no way you can draw for over a month and still be on that level, let alone 4 years. Either something's fucked with you, your teachers are a fucking scam, or you didn't try at all.';

'>>7133506
I'll tell you to study Loomis, and I don't mean that in a memey '/ic/ always suggests loomis' kind of way, I mean that in a 'you need to study the basics' kind of way - which loomis is great at.
Do actually start with "Fun With A Pencil" (FWAP), since you need to start at the basics, and once you finish that go into "Figure Drawing for all it's Worth".
FWAP has some hideous cartoon drawings, but it'll at least show you how to properly construct a drawing, and the next book will go into anatomy and show you how to drawing realistic figures.

The books are free from Archive, so get them, and dive deep into them and hopefully you'll improve quickly.
That said, if you've had tutors and teachers unable to help you, I wouldn't be surprised if you just outright suck at drawing anon. I'm not a believer in talent per-say, but I do believe some people just can't their heads around certain things - and for you that may be drawing.';

'>>7133988
NTA and only tangently related
I've worked with a lot of Indians and they are always the most confident in their abilities - I.e. they believe they should be promoted, are destined for a higher, more prestige job, like they work in a call center but think they could be a high end developer at Google
But they show little understanding and tend to be slow and have very little motivation to improve

My net is limited but I've worked in 8 fields with 10 different Indian guys and this has always been the same experience for me';

'>>7133506
do you have severe motor difficulties? are you autistic? why are you in a figure drawing class in college when you can't even draw a basic shape?';

'>>7133506
this is bait';

'>>7134042
i’ve noticed an uptick in people calling things bait online and I can only assume it’s due to people online being unable to discern when they’re being fucked with';

'>>7134043
real world is so fucked it's honestly become hard to tell apart satire/bait from legit, just look at that other thread about rainbow artists "fixing" characters.';

'>>7134038
yes i have adhd and autism';

'Bruh how much are you actually drawing? Like how many hours a day? Do you even like art? Just keep working on your drawings longer, your pic looks like you spent 5 minutes on it';

'>>7134093
Ah didnt see you have autism sorry dude. Yeah get support for that, there should be resources available to help you.';

'block in the whole subject in simple straight shapes and then gradually sculpt out the silhouette, curves and details come later and with sweeping strokes drawn from your elbow and shoulder';

'>>7133544
It's over, old man. Give up and start flipping burgers.';

'>>7133506
How long did you spend on that? That looks like you put thirty minute of work into that, tops. For my assignments I do at minimum a couple practice sketches and the actually assignment to turn in takes 3+ hours. The actual learning takes place outside class once your playing around with the concepts that were introduced in class. You're not in class for fun, you're mastering a skill. You either put the work in and bust your ass or you stay mediocre. If you want to have fun draw on your own without wasting money on classes.';

'>>7134093
>>7134117
in the class each day we work of 10 30 sec guestures, 10 1 minute guestures and 10 2 miniute gesture which is just warm up and not marked
the drawing i have posted is of a long pose where we are usually given around 45 minutes to complete which is the work that actually gets marked';

'>>7134128
Wait, so are your whole classes just gesture + a long pose, or do you actually learn other stuff besides grinding gesture?';

'>>7134128
Do you have home assignments? You definitely need to work on some longer pieces where you really focus on accuracy and making sure everything is going in the right place. Your tutor sucks if they haven't nipped your habit of sketching in very dark so you'll never be able to ease any mistakes, everything you have here is preliminary work and should be so light that you almost can't see the lines on a photograph. And I don't want to be a dick, but you do notice major mistakes like the guy's foot is bigger than his head, right? For now you need to draw lightly and then ask yourself, "is this right?" everytime you put down a line. If your grades are dependant on what you produce in class you need to get in contact with the schools support services so you can get some leniency. If your ADHD/autism is bad enough that you can't do better in 45 minutes after 4 years of practice then you need to start putting yourself on a schedule you can stick to where you're constantly working in short bursts. Accept that you won't get it right in class and then work on your drawings on your spare time to finish them off. I'm sorry, but you're going to have to ask yourself if you want/need those draftsman skills because it's a lot of work to begin with and it's going to be even more for you on top of figuring out how you personally learn best. You can make meaningful art without strong draftsmanship.';

'>>7134128
God damn, son. Have you been shown how to find proportion, or did they just throw a prebeg straight into figure drawing? Check to see how large parts are in relation to one another. Eg, compare the style size of the head, to the forearm to the foot, realize one is slightly longer, one slightly shorter, double and triple check, compare to the length of the full body, ensure that limbs are angled correctly. Draw shit in lightly, observe features closely.';

'>>7134128
Maybe try something else nigga, that shit is worse than chris chan's art';

'>>7133988
Honestly, I wouldn't be a surprised. I've seen Indian artists, art teachers and adverts for Indian artists schools on YouTube and they definitely wouldn't cut the mustard at a third rate art school, let-a- lone here. It's GCSE/Community College tier.';

'>>7134128
Can you post any more drawings you've done? What about drawing do you find the hardest anon?';

'>>7133506
Screencapping this, welcome to /ic/'s clown hall of fame. Imagine being your parents, wasting their hard earned money on a talentless fuck like you. You'll never be an artist and you are just wasting yours and everyone's time';

'>>7133506
your problem is a one of observation
you need to do more accurate copies and slow down

here's a RULE, if something looks off, just fix it.';

'>>7133506
Drawing on the Right side of the Brain and Keys to Drawing were made for you';

'>>7133506
>>7133515
Damn anon, this is really sad.

I want to preface my advice by telling you that I too didn't draw my whole life. I went into art school pretty raw, so I understand the feeling of being behind. That said, here are some things that might help.

Your proportions are shit, and they are all blobby. This means you lack form, for this I recomend three things.
>see pic for examples

1) Use BOXES for ribs and pelvis.
For a regular standing pose, draw these parts as two boxes, where you see the bottom of the ribs, and the top of the pelvis. These boxes are wider facing the front and back and thinner on the sides.

2) Mark the proportions
This is something we did in my figure drawing class, and is something you really ought to do until you have the muscle memory to freehand it. See pic for specifically what this means. Start with top and bottom, and then half these until you get to 8ths. Also start with the ribs on this, and you can make the head slightly larger to adjust the proportions from 8 heads tall to something more realistic like 7.5ish.

3) Straight line technique (this one I recomend the most)
Use straight lines to block out the form. This helps with proportion and deciciveness. Don't focus on detail! Try to see the bigger forms.

4) Sight Measurement
Stick out your arm straight and use your pencil as a flat plane to measure the angles between a known point and a point you want to know. For instance, use the tearduct as a known point to check the angle to the top of the ear. If you want to be very sure, use a second point to do this again, and you have now triangulated where this new point should be.

All of this advice is stuff that helped me not be a total goober, so it might help you.';

'>>7135073
same, i'd kill myself if i was op
>>7134176
>did they just throw a prebeg straight into figure drawing?
kek, they probably did.';

'>>7133506
>>7134176
>>7136007
>did they just throw a prebeg straight into figure drawing?
Damn, they probably did. But I do want to know how from op, did you have any classes before this?

The bit about flunking out makes me think this is the first class that you take wherever this is, as I would be surprised to see anybody able to pass a prerequisite who draws this poorly, however I have seen a few people who were real inept get passed along, so who really knows.';

'>>7133506
Don't use schemes to draw when you're drawing from life. I see you've been drawing the 8 heads tall figure but if this is a figure study from life which i assume it is, then you should copy what you see, not draw automatically if that makes sence. Not all people are 8 heads tall, their heights and head sizes vary. This is wh you have to closely observe the subject that you're drawing so that your drawing at least resembles them.
>>7135978
>4) Sight Measurement
Stick out your arm straight and use your pencil as a flat plane to measure the angles between a known point and a point you want to know. For instance, use the tearduct as a known point to check the angle to the top of the ear. If you want to be very sure, use a second point to do this again, and you have now triangulated where this new point should be.
This is a really good tip. You need to do a fuck ton of life studies. You can't draw well from intuition yet because you don't have that sort of muscle memory in your brain if it makes sence. I don't know what kinda school you go to but your teachers sound stupid as fuck. Try looking for a new tutor. I wish you good luck and success, if it makes you feel any better I genuinely like your drawing even if it isn't technically correct at all.';

'>>7134128
>45 minutes
so this thread is obvious bait';

'>>7137966
>Don't use schemes to draw when you're drawing from life
Yup. You can use some proportion knowledge, but even then, you have to make sure it's right.
I was in a class doing head drawings where we learned the proportions of the head, and how the eyeline is 1/2 of the top of the head to the chin. This means the CENTER of the eyeball is at that 1/2 part, but then I saw somebody else who was mucking it up by drawing the eyeline correctly, but then putting the eyeball either above or below the line.

So many times when drawing from life I will mess something up because I let my notion of how things should be get in the way of my observation. Or trying to come up with "just the right method" to be able to draw without thinking, but drawing really does just take that extra level of focus you have to really push through your own thoughts for. A lot of the place I am at in my art journey now is just throwing out bad habbits more than even learning new ones.';

'>>7133506
>drawing class in college
In Japan you have animators, manga artists and illustrators saying that vocational schools and art college are a scam because the only good artists coming out of them were good before joining them.
It's so funny how a lot of pro capeshit artists say something similar yet dumbasses like OP fall for the scam.';

'>>7133506
>i've had my teacher suguest maybe i should try something else.
Your teacher is a good person, they don't want you to waste years and a fuckton of money doing something that you suck.
Talent is real and you have no aptitude to drawing so do something else and keep drawing as a hobby.';

'>>7133506
You drew for 4 years and this is the best you can do? I'm sorry but cancel that class and learn something else it's clearly not for you';

'>>7137995
>is obvious bait
i see you’ve been buck broken by twitter and can no longer ascertain reality. Humorous';

'>>7133506
Sometimes for you to learn something important you have to unlearn something else.
You seem to have quite a few things to unlearn.';