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public void post the drawing that made you realize you were NGMI(OP Anonymous) {

String fullTitle = 'post the drawing that made you realize you were NGMI';
int postNumber = 7136585;
String image = '1713369786810018.png';
String date = '04/17/24(Wed)12:03:06';
String comment = 'Post the worst artwork you ever made and that you would be too ashamed to show anyone irl.';

}
public void comments() {
if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136589 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)12:07:24') {

'lmaoooooooooooo';

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136594 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)12:14:31') {

'Someone post la creatura by Stan';

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136600 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)12:22:40') {

'>>7136585
what the fuck was your thought process op'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136606 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)12:29:35') {

'>>7136600
I think was trying to draw a kangaroo'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136653 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)13:48:01') {

'>>7136585
This is horrifying and I love it. You've made it anon.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136659 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)14:01:00') {

'>>7136606
from memory'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136682 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)14:34:51') {

'It's not a drawing but a few moments. A few moments when a friend showed me some of his littles sister's drawings. And then he showed me some of his girlfriend's drawings. They were really good and both of them spent 0 minutes studying bridgman or loomis or fundies or whatever. I've been learning for nearly 3 years and I still can't draw like them. Some people are just born with it. I wasn't and it is what it is. The only reason I haven't quit yet is sunk cost fallacy but I really should just give up. Maybe I'll find something one day I'll be good at from the start';

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136688 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)14:40:04') {

'>>7136682
Also there is something else. They seem to enjoy it. They pick up a pencil and draw for fun. I can't remember the last time I had fun while drawing. I used to enjoy it before I started studying all these books you guys praise on here all the time. I used to just redraw William Blake's paintings and I had fun. Don't really feel like doing that again though. Just thinking about drawing makes me physically sick.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136709 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)14:57:14'  && image=='heatstrokecore.png') {

'>>7136585
in my defense I had a heatstroke that day'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136724 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)15:17:50') {

'>>7136682
That kind of people usually draw regularly for fun from very little. They don't magically shit out their 5th drawing ever being a masterpiece'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136735 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)15:34:04'  && image=='8tund393-3-pr.png') {

'>>7136585
OP here, it took me two months of continuous drawing practice to draw that from imagination.
Today wasn’t the first time I failed and it won’t be my last but I’m not gonna give up, my new drawing routine will start next week and with two more months of practice I’m confident that I will be able to do a lot better.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136737 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)15:36:03') {

'>>7136709
Doesn’t look that bad it just seems rushed'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136741 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)15:40:01') {

'>>7136709
you didn't look at pictures of black people like I told you to do, if you refuse to look at real world for reference you're ngmi'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136751 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)16:01:24'  && image=='bread.jpg') {

'>>7136709
>actually went outside for several hours
NGMI'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136754 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)16:04:47') {

'>>7136741
Dunning Kruger'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136810 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)17:23:29') {

'>>7136585
They are all in the trash, although seeing what you posted makes me wish I had kept some.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7136817 && dateTime=='04/17/24(Wed)17:34:37') {

'>>7136735
Good luck, anon. Don't forget to apply what you learn to a drawing right after, so if you are learning back muscles, etc. Draw an actual character from the back without the studies for reference to see how much you can actually remember/apply on a real drawing.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7137457 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)10:29:51') {

'Literally all of them. You people always told me I was NGMI which is why I gave up drawing. Apparently if you’re not immediately perfect you’re worthless.';

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7137499 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)11:04:37'  && image=='Screenshot_20240419_010341.png') {

'>>7136585
idgi whats the problem? maybe im just tired.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7137509 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)11:21:36') {

'>>7137457
Good. Stay in your lane.'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7137512 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)11:23:11') {

'>>7137509
Fuck you nigger!'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7137516 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)11:26:20'  && image=='1693244658614602.png') {

'>>7137457
You can always go down the dark path'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7137546 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)11:53:02') {

'>>7136600
>>7136653
I'm new here, what's so startling about it?'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7137558 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)12:04:04') {

'>>7137546
Looking at pre-beg anime is like that scene in Alien Ressurection where they stumbled on a lab full of failed Ripley clones.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7137611 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)12:49:27') {

'Why are there only three anons who posted their work in the entire thread, you guys are such pussies';

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7137626 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)12:58:40'  && image=='loomis heads.png') { }

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7137799 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)16:02:18') {

'>>7137626
Kek nice'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7137934 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)18:43:42'  && image=='97729d7e54857c9df7d1040ad3b8bb43.jpg') {

'>>7136585
it wasn't a drawing in particular but most of my portfolio over my whole lifetime.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7138077 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)22:00:45') {

'>>7137546
It's not just a bad drawing, but it's a bad thought process, seen mainly in the way they added color and "shading" on a very bad sketch as if it were ready for that.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7138080 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)22:02:37') {

'>>7136754
How? He is literally right. You HAVE to use reference. The real dunning-kruger is thinking you don't.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7138082 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)22:03:59') {

'>>7137499
Looks fine to me. Not saying nothing wrong with it, but not seeing the ngmi-ness you are supposing. Is it just the line quality?'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7138086 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)22:08:24') {

'>>7138080
That's not what he said though lol
And no you don't have to, do you think artists who drew thousands of comic pages in their lifetime used reference for each one? Or even a quarter?
Idk why I'm even arguing this, that's not even what he said anyway'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7138128 && dateTime=='04/18/24(Thu)23:01:10') {

'>>7138082
i mean i used ops construction as the base'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7138272 && dateTime=='04/19/24(Fri)02:31:18') {

'>>7137626
My desert. My Arrakis. My dune.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7138290 && dateTime=='04/19/24(Fri)03:11:58') {

'>>7136682
they didn't study those "Fundies" things, but they almost certainly copied their favorite artists. It doesn't matter what you study, as long as you actually are studying something. In fact, you will improve faster, if you just copy what you enjoy.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7138307 && dateTime=='04/19/24(Fri)03:46:22') {

'>>7136735
Where'd you get those anatomy refs?'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7138354 && dateTime=='04/19/24(Fri)05:39:42') {

'>>7137499
Several things are wrong with the construction on the original piece- the neck is essentially just a hockeypuck, the shoulders are too close together. and the legs don't seem to be on the same plane at all. That's not even half of the issues with it. The way it is constructed I cannot tell if it's meant to be straight up, tilted back, or presenting the crotch because of how poorly they did the construction.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7139935 && dateTime=='04/20/24(Sat)16:08:06') {

'>implying anons draw';

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7139938 && dateTime=='04/20/24(Sat)16:09:16') {

'>>7137626
legit, gmi.'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7140027 && dateTime=='04/20/24(Sat)17:31:18'  && image=='Bros.png') {

'>>7136585
when I tell people im only 4-5 months into drawing they always expect much more so I never show anyone IRL ever what i actually draw'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7140156 && dateTime=='04/20/24(Sat)19:36:13') {

'>>7136585
Yes because all the greats produced nothing but perfection incarnate from the moment they started learning until the end of their life'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7140356 && dateTime=='04/20/24(Sat)22:55:00'  && image=='Untitled-7.png') {

'one of my biggest failures';

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7140367 && dateTime=='04/20/24(Sat)23:04:57'  && image=='me.png') {

'when i realised that not only i suck at drawing but also i'm old and ugly, i guess i can do other things but ngmi';

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7140373 && dateTime=='04/20/24(Sat)23:12:00') {

'>>7138290
>>7136724

Fuckin' dishonesty right here, then on the next post, you'll be recommending Loomis and whatnot.'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7140374 && dateTime=='04/20/24(Sat)23:13:58') {

'>>7140156
Yes and kill yourself you nigger'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7140578 && dateTime=='04/21/24(Sun)04:22:06') {

'>>7137626
>fuck you lookin at whyte boi'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7140639 && dateTime=='04/21/24(Sun)05:53:39') {

'>>7136585
It was never a single piece that did it but rather looking back at all that I've done so far since I started and realizing how little has changed. I've seen other anons who draw in the same places I do who started out really rough but over time they've not only improved but blown past anything I've done and have grown immensely. Seeing this and seeing how even though I've been at it longer I'm just spinning my wheels while others improve made me have to accept I just don't know how to learn. It's a baffling experience. There are connections and paths I seem to have trouble making when it comes to drawing and understanding this stuff. The part that keeps me in it is that I have seen some change over time, but man is it minimal and glacial. I have to be doing something wrong somewhere.'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7140892 && dateTime=='04/21/24(Sun)10:54:10') {

'People in this thread should post their progress in two months time';

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7140915 && dateTime=='04/21/24(Sun)11:21:26') {

'>>7140027
its not bad though, don't be too hard on yourself for having just started! thats farther along than people I know whove tried for years'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7141062 && dateTime=='04/21/24(Sun)13:26:09'  && image=='pose.png') { }

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7141095 && dateTime=='04/21/24(Sun)14:08:45'  && image=='jet shotgun 2.jpg') {

'>>7136585
Not the worst and is just a sketch, but there are so many things wrong with it i don't even want to fix it or finish it anymore'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7141211 && dateTime=='04/21/24(Sun)15:40:55') {

'>>7137626
Looks like Kyle Gas from Tenacious D.'
;

}

if(Master Wang && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7141568 && dateTime=='04/21/24(Sun)19:25:38'  && image=='Pai Mei.gif') {

'>>7136585
You were thinking too hard.
Trying too hard to draw from your head, when you should be drawing from your heart.
And by heart I mean your penis.

That goes for the rest of you too.
Thinking comes after cumming.
When you are done, towel yourself off and ask yourself "is there something wrong with my piece, something you can fix?".
That's good, that means you're not blinded by your own ego and know you can always improve.'
;

}

if(Master Wang && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7141585 && dateTime=='04/21/24(Sun)19:40:55'  && image=='Thicc Stick.png') {

'>>7141568
I will not lie to you Young Grasshoppers, I am not a Master.
Hell I'm not even that good. But I believe in all of you, because I believe in myself.
My perspective is off, my anatomy is whack, and my linework is spotty.
But despite it's flaws, I like it. Others like it.
Because it exists, because I did not fear failure.
You must eliminate that fear, fear is the mind killer.
You will fail, because you must fail.
Failure births self reflection, self reflection births self improvement, and self improvement births nice looking boobanhonkers, until then.
Just draw, Young Grasshoppers.'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7142278 && dateTime=='04/22/24(Mon)11:48:10'  && image=='halloween.png') {

'This one. It's never any one particular image, I constantly bang my head on the ceiling and feel my lack of skill holding me back. I'm always being reminded that I'm perpetually stuck at square one, and that there are so many things I still need to learn. The path ahead is overwhelmingly long, full of hurdles that I can't even begin to look at yet. It's discouraging.

I have lots of ideas in my head that I'd love to put on a canvas, but am unable to. I don't have the skill to do them justice and draw them properly, and when I try, the result is fucked. Pic related was me throwing my inhibitions to the wind and doing it anyway because you can only fail upward, so why not. I put in maximum effort, spent a lot of tme on it, determined to make something worthy of the time I'd spent learning so far.

I struggled every step of the way. I finished it, it looked like shit. I took a second look at it, I was unhappy with it. I posted it around, everyone ignored it. Nobody even told me it was shit, just apathy. Really broke me. I already struggle, but fucking up this badly made me question whether I even have what it takes to succeed. Made me realize that being NGMI is a cycle of stagnation that you fall into, not just some state of denial that idiots trap themselves in.'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7142287 && dateTime=='04/22/24(Mon)11:54:27'  && image=='Fujo bastard sample panel.png') {

'>>7140367
Practice, study AND draw! Be the mosquito man/mamimi of your life!'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7142795 && dateTime=='04/22/24(Mon)19:27:30') {

'>>7138086
They never said you have to use reference everytime you want to draw something, but you obviously need reference to learn anything new'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7142822 && dateTime=='04/22/24(Mon)19:50:42') {

'>>7142278
What the fuck are you waffling about? You have the potential. You have the pieces in the bag, you just need to refine and correct them a bit. I like your comic. You are really close to hitting it, and your giving up now?! Nah.
Keep going, Anon. Just remember to have fun and enjoy the process of drawing.
Even if you produce dogshit along your journey, as long as you enjoy yourself, who cares?'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7145410 && dateTime=='04/25/24(Thu)02:00:46') {

'>>7136585
>post the drawing that made you realize you were NGMI
NGMI status isn't set in stone and isn't even related to a piece of art but rather how I approach art. I have possibly figured out a much healthier path of pursuing art, but there's an irrational fear of being perma stunted by a 15 year long perfectionist mentality, leading to an unbreakable life of inconsistency and slow as molasses pace.

Ever since I started art as an 11 year old I've had an unhealthy high expectation, focusing too hard on a single piece needing to be fantastic like my inspirations, no matter how long it takes and how miniscule the changes are. Rather than what I now believe. Which is cultivating a mechanical memory from constant observation, quick rep grind, and appliance. Shaping my overall capability so that I can output what I trained for in a reasonable time and effort. Applying what I learned instead of forced trial and error.

But this irrational fear of being stunted still chains me down. Alongside this reluctant thought that quick studies should look presentable from the get go, despite never working at such a pace before. If I stay like this then I am definitely perma NGMI. I need some push of confidence that my newfound realization on how to better approach art in my life will in the end work out if I just ignore my ego and fear of being stunted. I need reassurance. Sorry for the wall of text I don't feel like TLDRing.'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7145416 && dateTime=='04/25/24(Thu)02:19:24'  && image=='drk.jpg') {

'>>7136585
I've started drawing again since I hadn't for a few years, but it's mostly just me copying stuff I see.'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7145511 && dateTime=='04/25/24(Thu)07:17:00'  && image=='satori5.png') {

'undefined';

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7145523 && dateTime=='04/25/24(Thu)07:45:09'  && image=='file.png') {

'absolutely worst work i ever shit out, only sollace there is that there was not much time wasted, about five minutes if i recall correctly';

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7145938 && dateTime=='04/25/24(Thu)15:29:21'  && image=='leanbackpose.png') { }

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7146085 && dateTime=='04/25/24(Thu)18:36:07') {

'>>7142278
That’s pretty nice actually. You clearly have a mind that can at least invent memorable shit, which is an oddly rare talent. I hope you make it'
;

}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7146089 && dateTime=='04/25/24(Thu)18:38:06') {

'>>7136709
Why is she digging out her own kidney?'
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}

if(Anonymous && title=='undefined' && postNumber==7146098 && dateTime=='04/25/24(Thu)18:45:49') {

'>>7141585
Thank you Master Wang for these inspiring words and your show of humility'
;

}

}
}