'>>7151353
aislop is for gacha gamers
art is expression
you do not have a soul
do not speak a human language to me';

'>>7151353
>Almost nobody gives a fuck about "AI art is theft"
That's because the average artist trace/plagiarize on the same level as AI, it doesn't matter if it's human or machine hands that's doing the stealing.';

'>>7151354
Art is not expression
its a way to earn money.
You also have no following, no fans and no work posted so does it matter?
You are a ghost amongst ghosts.';

'>>7151353
>>>/trash/
Stay there and don't dare to come back';

'>>7151353
ywnbaw';

'gory gory what a helluva way to die';

'>>7151353
Sorry faggot I draw for fun and AI retards won't take that away from me.';

'>>7151353
WAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ARTISTBROS AI IS BAD!!!!! IS BAD WE ARE FUCKED!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHH OH NO NONO
*fart on roomate door sounds*

You lost, nigger, it's you that waste your fucking life with this shit
Fucking get a life goddamn';

'>>7151353
This AI shit could save art though. What was the big issue happening in the art scene during the last "era" more than just years? Total and absolute saturation of crappy content and an infinite beg apocalypse flooding sites like DA, tumblr or twitter, etc. Those people couldn't be filtered, because "everyone can be an artist" right? Well now all that useless fat will be trimmed out of the "artist" camp. They will go to AI to get what they wanted in the first place. They never wanted to do great art, or to master the craft, they just wanted to make their shit OCs or fetish ideas to exist somehow. They couldn't pay an artist, or no one was interested in those ideas. So they thought they could just "do it themselves".
There are not enough artists to match the amount of good or crappy ideas in the head of millions of wannabe creators. Now they have a tool to fulfill that function.
And artists can go back to be artists. To do real art. Instead of feeling forced to do the mandatory retarded normie trend of the moment, they will be doing original ideas, because they love it.';

'>>7151353
>ask normie to do work
>payday comes and he asks for money
>"sorry, i just democratized the money unto myself. Don't be mad, you're a nobody."';

'>>7151362
I hope you realize how pathetic you sound.';

'>>7151400
I actually don't sound pathetic though, ghost among ghosts. I'm spreading the truth. I look at the front pages of youtube, deviantart, tiktok, facebook, and see that what I said in the OP still remains true.
American society has degraded so much that appreciation for effortful artwork is pretty much non-existent. The technique matters not, only the end product.';

'>meanwhile';

'Another AI thread full of speculation, insults, and nonsense.
Sage and hide. There's no purpose to these.';

'wow artsisters its soooo over
how can we ever recover
like wow

i am so mad and coping and seething right now
OP really epic trolled us, sisters!!!!!
we will never recover
its over';

'>>7151402
That's enough reason to kill yourself but please don't, it's okay anon, just use AI. We understand.f4g07';

'>>7151362
Yeah, i am a ghost, so get the fuck off my haunted board.';

'>>7151353
>The normies on Facebook and instagram love it.
but they don't
they've started to hate it too
end your life baiting ni/g/ger';

'>>7151415
>but they don't
You clearly don't use Facebook enough. For every little comment section spammed with "AI art is theft" activists, there's a hundred pages earning side-cash posting AI art memes and photos of anime characters in prom outfits and all that.
Most people can't tell anymore.
The Anti-AI screechers, with their skinny arms and neglected art profiles are displaced luddites. We all know this. They will scream on the way to the social media abyss where none shall celebrate their skills or shower them with adsense money.
>>7151415
>end your life baiting ni/g/ger
Nah, I'd win.
>>7151414
>Yeah, i am a ghost, so get the fuck off my haunted board.
No, I'm here to exorcize you. You have lingered here in the /beg/ wasteland for so long, you cannot rest. I am here to let you know that you can cross over. Put down the pencil, you know those hundreds of drafts you pumped out aren't getting finished. You don't have the time to finish what you really want, and the sooner you let it go, the sooner you can rest.';

'>>7151402
You sound severely retarded more than pathetic. Art, for you, doesn't seem to exist outside of the new goyslop social media dick that you have lived all your life deepthroating. Go buy and sell stocks if you just want money. Playing games, walking, listening or making music, watching a tv show is, in your delusions, 100% about money. If you are not gaining money by breathing, maybe you should consider sucking a loaded gun as your last phalic object, you insuferable faggot.';

'>>7151425
>hurr durr ma get the screenshots im trolling epic style
look at my stickwoman';

'>>7151426
So many edgy buzzwords and chanspeak, stopped reading at goyslop. You clearly never leave this site. If only you were this fervent with your actual art career, you wouldn't be this disturbed by my OP. I have observed the truth and am sharing it with fellow artists so they can adapt accordingly. Don't hate the messenger, my dear newfag.';

'fuck off mikufag';

'>>7151425
>You clearly don't use Facebook enough.
what a fucking loser right?—doesn't spend enough time on Facebook!';

'>>7151363
>Stay there and don't dare to come back
HEY!
/trash/ actually has some good generals';

'Don't care, digital has always been trash. Long live trad';

'>>7151441
Name one.';

'>>7151439
>what a fucking loser right?—doesn't spend enough time on Facebook!
Definitely. 4chan has its charms but the anonymity guarantees that no real information can be really acquired from this place. Everything with a grain of salt. There is no real knowledge to be gathered from /ic/ except to meme about art and suffering and soullessness.';

'>>7151430
your style is recognizable even here';

'>>7151441
>t. gooner';

'>>7151444
>>>/trash/65325897
One of the best generals ever, I've cum so much in public RP';

'>>7151432
You clearly never leave your computer, your phone or have any type of social interaction. I'm not "disturbed" by anything that you wrote. I just came to your shit thread to call you a raging faggot.';

'>>7151444
the drawing/artist centered ones
the improvement gen alone is better than all of /ic/';

'>>7151445
what knowledge does facebook offer?';

'>>7151447
The sky is blue, thanks Captain Obvious.
>>7151448
Kill yourself.
>>7151450
I was going to question why, but given the absolute state of this board, it kinda self anwsered. Furry art but seems ok...';

'>>7151446
i'm not one of your discord tranny friends, faggot';

'>>7151449
That's nice and all but I just made a post to announce the failure of the anti-AI art crowd. It's really not that important, but apparently its super important to you. Are YOU the skinny-armed faggot from California who was screeching about how AI art is theft? Because that's the only reason I can see why my post bothers you this much specifically.';

'>>7151430
STAND PROUD. YOU CAN COOK.';

'>/trash/ AI slop gooners raiding /ic/ again';

'>>7151448
Jesus Christ what the actual fuck is that thread?
Do pathetic people like that exist?
Holy fuck';

'>>7151464
You've got retards paying for AI generated images so you tell me';

'>>7151465
>they literally pay
>for something they can easily get for free
I don't fear AI, i fear people being fucking retarded';

'>>7151464
>Jesus Christ what the actual fuck is that thread?
It's the fapping together threads. Basically all the gooners come together, and they do sexual roleplay in public for all to see. They finger, suck, fuck, lick up cum, kiss, ride dick, get cream pied and get bred by each other, getting harder from the rush of showing everyone their degenerate behavior.';

'>>7151465
>mfw';

'>>7151425
Tell me why i should give a shit if christcuck boomers are oblivious to AI?';

'Imagine being this pathetic that you need validation and attention to cum

Why do i ever think i'm never enough when these fucking creatures exist?';

'>>7151445
Facebook hasn't been relevant since like 2014 and is cannibalized by its own sister service, Instagram. Contemporary social media is an overt, publicly disclosed psy-op. If you are spending substantial amounts of time there you are, as already noted, a soulless automaton. Imagine being able to do amything with your time and chosing voyeurism and endless scrolling. You're a peripheral without a motherboard.';

'>>7151479
>Facebook hasn't been relevant since like 2014
Nigga is wrong in the first sentence
Try again newfag.';

'>>7151353
Understandable, have a nice day.';

'>>7151353
>Anonymous
no real information in that post';

'>>7151485
if you are using any sort of algorithmic attention harvester on a daily, weekly, or even monthly basis, you are a subhuman and not relevant';

'>>7151501
bro i just want to share my stuff in the void hoping the void people will have fun with me

i sure as fuck ain't joining no discord full of porn addicted minors';

'>>7151509
what? oh right you're a brainrotten ai apologist, everything you say is a parody of humanity anyway';

'>>7151511
wow bro
you got me bro

although, i do not like or use ai
i just felt called out and it seems you outwit me epic style

damn';

'>>7151425
>quoting me twice
lol lmao
cope harder rajesh';

'undefined';

'>>7151485
>Facebook is for actual boomers/old people
>Facebook pays shit for creators
>Facebook is botted as fuck
>Facebook has scams everywhere
last I checked the money being made on Facebook was selling its users data
how is Facebook a "good" platform again';

'>>7151353
>It was a nice run everyone, but the public has sided with AI, it has won.
>We fought, we lost.
>Now we rest.
How's the weather in India at the moment?';

'>>7151597
shitty';

'>>7151470
you can also get any picture ever for free, just draw it bro, right? why do commisions exist then?';

'>>7151774
Are you just that dumb, the artist is what matters if they resonate with you right? If one of their works moves you, you check out what makes them so unique and distinctive. Why do you think people pay breakers for card opening streams that are overpriced than just buying the card itself. You want the experience and service of that specific influencer/person. Even better if there's a community behind it because you can show it off to the same people who like their work.

What am I getting by paying a schmuck that generates something? I'm paying for the sole result only and at that point, if I can get it for free why would I bother with that

>just draw it bro, right?
Yeah too bad it's actually a skill that takes a long time to develop, so you're not gonna be able to replicate that unless you use AI if you want something in seconds';

'>>7151389
they thought of that and wrote laws many years ago forcing employers to pay people to work. Most of those laws still apply today.';

'>>7151353
>Yet another AI shill trying to convince real artists to give up on real art and failing miserably.
>Hides thread';

'The poor little pajeet conveniently forgetting that "looks like AI" is an insult, not a compliment. How convenient.';

'One of the saddest bait threads yet.';

'>>7151411
>>7151415
>censoring faggot and nigger
>on 4chan
>on a red board at that
Someone could travel the entire world and be less of a tourist than you.';

'>>7151868
>>censoring nigger
you really need to go back';

'It's over: https://storydiffusion.github.io/';

'>>7151880
Why does this shit look the exact same, if not worse than the Sora videos. Everything is still not coherent, especially in the anime ones';

'>>7151375
this. many "artists" are ai artists inherently and are just mad about being out-slopped faster by a computer';

'>>7151873
Sorry anon I forgot /g/ is a board. Can you forgive me?
*shows you my bussy*';

'And why should I give a damn? I suck at drawing and get no coms and also too poor to afford a decent graphics to shit out slop.
Literally I don't give a hell of a damn.
AI cocksuckers and art trannies should mutually kill themselves, as their pathetic existence could be effectively used as soil fertilizer, much needed in our modern times';

'>>7151375
>they will be doing original ideas, because they love it.
but the consumer wants and craves the fotm mandatory retarded normie trend of the moment
They despise originality because it reminds them of how unoriginal they are.
What are you talking about?';

'>>7151971
What's the point of learning to draw and pursuing anything to sufficiently try and make a living off of your art if anyone can simply take your art and train their own model on your shit and effectively overrun you.

It's not even about outslopping, it leaves no avenue for actual artists to pursue this anymore than a hobby if any prompter can just steal your shit and effectively become youx100 at scale with no cost';

'>>7151353
ai art cant be racist, sexist or antisemitic. I think you know what to do now.';

'>>7151988
>steal and copy art
>do nothing but slop fotm porn because money and clout
>this invites more bad people into trying to get a piece of that
>turn art into sloppery and hyperconsumer product for the end goal of siphoning money out of normies and gooners
>cry when the better scammer outdoes you and plays the game better than you
Anon, those are simply the consequences of everyone's actions

Should have nurtured a healthier art environment where creativity and originality was valued instead of cringed upon because it wasn't the anime girls of the current show with her tits out';

'>>7151995
I don't know how you think something creative and original won't be sucked up and img2imged in the same breath. It's not like AI is only capable of fucking over FOTM and general things that catch attention. I don't know how you think somehow if there's an artist making cool and unique art, it won't be taken and fed into the slopper for what reason?';

'>>7151995
>>do nothing but slop fotm porn because money and clout
>>this invites more bad people into trying to get a piece of that

Are you just ignoring the fact that this affects everyone in the pool of "artists" not just coomer drawers? It effectively lowers the threshold everywhere for not hobbyists but actual illustrators.

Doing art to try and make a living off of it for some reason is seen as a bad thing all of a sudden for no reason. I never understood it, if you truly loved it and wanted to be able to sustain off of it so you could keep doing it that's admirable to me';

'>>7151996
Because those are relative and extremely subjective but also have a denominator in how works that are
>good and creative
are perceived by the average people

Would stickmen be creative and good? Of course not, it's not like a real photograph.
Would anything that isn't a squeaky clean image be considered good and creative?
Of course not, because it isn't clean.
Would line work be good and creative?
Of course not, because there are no colors and it doesn't replicate life.
Would an illustration of a character no one know and never existed before be good and creative? Of course not, because there is no """frame of reference"""".

Anon, what is good and creative is literally dictated by fucking NPCs who just want to jerk off.
>>7152000
Irrelevant and strawman argument.
Prompt yourself, monkey.';

'>>7151354
Fpbp';

'>>7152001
>Would stickmen be creative and good? Of course not, it's not like a real photograph.

What? It can be creative depending on the usage, but the final output of that creativity will always just be possibly scraped and reproduced to death at scale because AI doesn't just stop at FOTM garbage and coomshit.

>Would anything that isn't a squeaky clean image be considered good and creative?
Of course not, because it isn't clean.

??? What even is this argument, just because something isn't "clean" doesn't mean it's not good lmao the fuck are you spouting.

>Anon, what is good and creative is literally dictated by fucking NPCs who just want to jerk off.

Are you seriously this bothered by coom artists or something so you're taking your anger out on all artists in general lol?';

'>>7152006
>emotional response
>missing the point
>unable to stay objective
>ad hominem
I'm not feeling silly, Anon';

'>>7152001
>Irrelevant and strawman argument.
Prompt yourself, monkey.

It's a pretty simple question related to the original tangent. So yeah no shit retard, it doesn't mean anything if someone comes up with something "creative" when it can be scraped and reproduced 100x faster with your average prompter. So what point is there now for any artist to pursue this shit? This stupid sentiment of being outslopped is the dumbest cope when in reality, there needs to be some sort of real answer to this so that the next generation of artists actually can exist and not dwindle further down.';

'>>7151988
what’s the point of picking up an instrument when you can just download fm studio or whatever. what’s the point of writing a letter when we have emails, why walk when you can bike. no artist who isn’t a retard would quit art if someone started copying their style, they shouldn’t give a fuck about computers doing it either. if they do melt down they didn’t have a passion for art anyway and just wanted attention kek

all that said i think ai slop should be tagged as ai slop so i can filter it';

'>>7152007
No im just genuinely curious why you think some sort of abstract "original" and "creative" notion is enough to detract from the core issue of how some random prompter will always be able to steal and recreate your own style and "creativity" at insane speeds. The fact that you keep detracting is pretty stupid when it's straight forward or if you have no answer for that then it makes sense.';

'>>7152009
>they shouldn’t give a fuck about computers doing it either. if they do melt down they didn’t have a passion for art anyway and just wanted attention kek

There's a big difference between some copycat artists copying your style when we're talking about how fast and easily AI can bog your own style and take whatever you produce to fuck you. All I'm getting now is that art as a career is truly just not sustainable and it's fine as a hobby only but I find that pretty sad but I guess it's just a reality.

>all that said i think ai slop should be tagged as ai slop so i can filter it

I think most people would agree anyway with you here';

'>>7152008
And as i said
Artist have nurtured a toxic environment, and now they cry because they poisoned themselves.
>>7152012
Nu-uh, Anon. You're trying to make a strawman argument.
>you're not answering my bad faith question therefore-.--- hehe checkmate!
Fucking retard.
You're missing the point to what is considered creative and original now.
And the visuals don't make the whole style of an artist.
Sure, you can copy the box, but you can't copy what's inside and you should have already known that, faggotron.';

'>>7152015
>And the visuals don't make the whole style of an artist.
Sure, you can copy the box, but you can't copy what's inside and you should have already known that, faggotron.


I'm just surprised at how much faith you have in general audience when you denounce coom artists for nurturing a toxic environment and then you think the audience who engages and ultimately chooses to consume is suddenly able to recognize true "creativity."

If anything I like and agree with that last statement, but it's not like the average person who sustains most of the artists in the first place care about that shit.';

'>>7152015
>Artist have nurtured a toxic environment, and now they cry because they poisoned themselves.

Holy kek mogged by coom artists so hes mad at them instead of the consoomers enabling it';

'>>7152018
>when you denounce coom artist
AH, god forbid someone dares say anything negative towards their general direction

Who the fuck even said it was about them, you dumb fucking faggot?
And even then, if this was solely about them, my point would have even more validity because they play a big part of why the online art has gone to the shitter.

My guess is that AI bad because YOU can't be rich and famous anymore?
Jesus Christ man the absolute state of self-referential grifters';

'>>7151470
you do it all the time in your life';

'>>7151971
AI shitter here really seems to have hit the mark
>AI bad because ME can't profit anymore
Imagine being so fucking retarded you end up validating some shitposting faggot

holy fuck';

'>>7152026
You were the one who focused in on coom artists pal. If you're gonna blame them, you should blame the audience as well no? It's just funny that you think somehow those same people can see creativity. We can move along from the coom artist point if it bothers you that much.

>My guess is that AI bad because YOU can't be rich and famous anymore?

How retarded are you to not realize, the ones who actually make and create are paid for their work, even if it's only a little compared to anything else. No one here actually believes you'll be rich and famous off of art, if you're wanting any of that you'd be way better off in any other field dipshit. All I'm worried about is the inevitable shrinking of artists in the coming generations since AI lowers the threshold for everyone no matter what they produce if it's anything related to an output of drawing.';

'>>7152028
Yeah ikr? as long as those already established before AI are able to survive, who cares about any other fucker. We can have even less and less artists in the future when we have AI and retards who push for this stupid cope of just having art as a "hobby" when some people want to pursue it further.';

'>>7152026
>My guess is that AI bad because YOU can't be rich and famous anymore?
There are no rich and/or famous artists on /ic/';

'>>7152030
>straight up lying when anyone can read the thread
>NOOOOOOO U SAID SOMETHING THAT CAN BE TWISTED INTO HATING PORN FUCKING PURITAN REEEE
>>7152001
i literallly blamed the consumers
but the content creators i.e. sloppers are NEVER without blame because they also serve the consumers to profit.
How is such a simple concept so hard to understand? Or do you need to deflect more?
>>7152032
>he keeps shooting the messenger
nigga, go shoot the ecelebrities and big accounts
They got their own shit, they don't give a shit about you or what you want.

But wait... the ecelebrity literally can do no wrong because why would they ever lie and cheat to me, amirite?';

'>>7152037
>straight up lying when anyone can read the thread

do nothing but slop fotm porn because money and clout

???? yeah ok bud';

'>>7152037
>But wait... the ecelebrity literally can do no wrong because why would they ever lie and cheat to me, amirite?

What on earth are you even schizoposting about';

'>>7152040
>only porn artist do the fotm slop
keep outing yourself, tourist';

'>>7152037
Actually throwing when you have retard shitposters like this guy against AIfags.';

'>>7152044
I have never seen such a schizo just continuously deflect and spout the most random shit ever because muh purity of art. Worse than fucking chris of all shits';

'>can't make shitty arguments anymore
>defaults to inane insults and namedropping
>inb4 haha hoho epic troll';

'>>7152049
You know, I take it all back. If this schizo can survive and thrive I think most artists will do fine even against all the issues coming forth. At least enough to step on this guy's head for an extra breath as the water rises. Thank you based schizo.';

'>he said the thing';

'I'm beginning to think that crazed schizo we had a while back deliberately giving good and bad advice and creating drama wherever he could in some weird attempt to drive people from the board was right.
No one who posts here is going to make it. /ic/ is a koan. The only solution is not to play.';

'>>7151353
Great, a schizo thread';

'>>7152058
Some decent redline in the threads sometimes. Other than that, too many schizos and retards everywhere';

'>>7152058
Most might simply call that Anon a schizo and disregard his purpose but I think that schizo had a point.

Board is unusable and discussion is impossible because anything you say, is met by insult spam
>oh you don't agree with me? fucking schizo
>oh you said something that rustles my jimmies? man, fucking schizos
if you see schizos anywhere, it might be a you problem.';

'>>7151353
So how is AI going to steal my Traditional art "data"?
Get fucked, shitskins. My physical art is eternal.';

'>>7151995
Do you seriously think the problem is sex = bad? Sex + art shouldn't have been degraded into degeneracy to the point where we are now, because they made it so unhealthy to seek sane sex acts in real life. Art imitates reality, until it doesn't, then it became an escape from reality, where the more and more deprived fantasies became a reality. It being made as available as possible is a reaction, not a symptom. This "nurturing" isn't needed if sex in real life was healthy to receive and seek out. Now you're being canceled for seeking what was normal before. It has been tainted in reality, and now it's tainted in fiction, there was no chance to "nurture" anything faggot. You're shooting the massager, since your kind love to use that phase now.';

'>>7152001
>Would stickmen be creative and good? Of course not,
Wrong. Faggot bastard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErMSHiQRnc8&ab_channel=AlanBecker
21 Million views. No dialogue. No Copyrighted music. Not "remixed" content from past works. All original, stickman animation. Creative and soulful.

And FYI, this will NEVER be made by AI. For your kind's mentality as the exact reason. It's not like a hyper rendered photo.';

'>>7151375
You forgot they won’t make any money though';

'>>7151353
AI generated art is for AI generated people
Real human art is for real human beings

It's as simple as that';

'LISTEN NIGGERS
Even if ai exists, it just heightens the lowest bar.
People will only pay for things in demand as usual and nobody wants a product that anyone can make in a couple minutes. the only way to distinguish yourself is to have your own unique and appealing art style, sense of composition, knowledge of anatomy, gesture, perspective etc… to fix the mistakes of the ai or to alter it to your liking to obtain just what you wanted.
Ai is useless and can’t produce any economical value unless it’s being used by someone who already knows how to draw well in the first place because only they can create original content that doesn’t feel bland or basic.';

'>>7152036
BBC Chan an many others';

'Companies will only hire artists with good self-made portfolios who also happen to know how to use ai. They won’t give a shit about incompetent aicels who can’t draw shit by themselves. The only ones who risk their job are people hired by scummy productions like the underpaid pajeets that will be expected to produce better quicker slop and for a lower wage.
This is going to be true for every digital artistic field even for twitter artists.
Ai is just going to push people into being more original and take the distances as much as possible from the crappy ai looking style.';

'Photographies are easy to make but you still need tons of practice and studies to become good at it and be able to do it professionally.
I can already see traditionally made drawings ala made in abyss becoming much more popular on twitter in the next few years.
Or just art styles that feel rougher, weirder and blatantly made by humans becoming more popular too. If anything ai is going to lower the value of overrendered soulless anime art styles which is what the models are trained for.
Kinda like what happened when photography was invented which made artists and the public go for abstract bizzarre and experimental style.
I will give a tip to anons who care about living off art: start to experiment and create something very peculiar (like that anon who draws frog like legs in his characters that I remember) if you want to put yourself ahead of the curve AVOID STUDYING SAMEY LOOKING ANIMU ART-STYLES and if you do then at least make something up with it.';

'Frankly time 5 years and I feel like even coomers will rather fap on high beg drawings than on ai puked out content';

'>>7152058
>No one who posts here is going to make it. /ic/ is a koan. The only solution is not to play.
Truth. Every since I've stopped coming here I actually started drawing.';

'>>7151784
>the artist is what matters if they resonate with you
lol lmao, have a load of this retard, you are a cog in the machine, work is work because you have to do things that others want for their end product';

'>>7152384
Stop being so mean on /ic/ you annoying dickhead
this is supposed to be a place of learning and motivation';

'>>7151375
>This AI shit could save art though.
kill yourself';

'>>7152648
It really can. The fact that Art Youtube had a resurrection because of the AI shit is actually really good because now actual artists can make adsense and are no longer purged from the algorithm';

'>>7151353
Gatekeeping has consequences';

'>>7152014
>art as a career is truly just not sustainable
art has NEVER been a sustainable or profitable career for like 99% of artists. you either need REAL talent, REAL charisma, or a whole lot of luck, often all three. i can't agree with blaming ai for that, "starving artist" was a thing long before we could create poorly designed and only vaguely good-looking pieces with ai (picrel). i hope all the fuss ends and people accept that this is a fun little tool and not the end of the world...

only real bad points of ai are deep fakes and being able to recreate realistic depictions of people, mostly because of pedophiles. i fear that we live in a world where anyone can take a child's face and superimpose it over porn';

'>>7152193
>If anything ai is going to lower the value of overrendered soulless anime art styles which is what the models are trained for.
yes and this is a great thing. makes me kek to see people whine about the depth of human spirit/soul or whatever and how ai art threatens that as if 99% of art isn't just coomslop or generic tiktok styles. big whoop, who gives a shit';

'>>7152991
>fear that we live in a world where anyone can take a child's face and superimpose it over porn
and what will happen?';

'>>7152991
You can do that with photoshop though.';

'>>7152975
I'll give them the most soulless ai slop anyone's ever seen! And when I'm irrelevant and NGMI, I'll sell my models so that everyone can be an artist. *Everyone* can be SOULLESS! And when everyone's SOULLESS...
>NO ONE WILL BE.';

'>>7152975
do you know whomst,
you're looking up too posting that image
>my nigga';

'undefined';

'Ai pictures don't prevent you from making art. What's the big deal? You don't actually plan to make money from your art, do you?';

'Don’t worry guys, art made by humans will always exist and suscitate interests. This is simply going to force artists of all kinds to be a lot more personable than ever and to become much more transparent and show each stage of their work. As long as they do that people will trust them and buy their stuff because it’s made by them, even if they could just generate an infinite amount of books/songs/art pieces/ comics that look just like something that they could have done. It’s the same concept of canon vs filler or original vs copy. The identity of an artist is going to take the center stage and the art itself will become an extension of his persona.';

'>>7153655
Actually yes, wagecuck. Many artists make a living on the internet.';

'>>7151571
> last I checked the money being made on Facebook was selling its users data
That’s practically all social media sites
>Facebook is for actual boomers/old people
Mainly third world people
>Facebook pays shit for creators
So does twitter tiktok and all sites not called YouTube
>Facebook is botted as fuck
Like all other social media platforms';

'>>7153655
>You don't actually plan to make money from your art, do you?
You're kind of supposed to.';

'>>7153655
Unironically, I don't.
Because before i could earn a single cent, i would need to earn 2k a month, every month without fail for at least 6 months but would forfeit the free neetbux+rent i get paid out every month.
Also taxes and bureaucracy. Lots of it.
The government will literally smell if you earn anything and throw you in jail if you don't declare it and make a whole ass essay where that cent came from.

Too much trouble.';

'>>7153724
Tax theft is getting out of hand now.';

'>>7153725
Only the rich are allowed to do that, not poor people.';

'>>7153692
>facebook/meta is one of the lowest paying';

'>>7153724
Also i want to add that dealing with clients, would be too much hassle. From the financial to contracts.
Even then, where to go do actually make money with art? Let's not beat around the bush, but it would be porn commissions.
I ain't doing that and I ain't dealing with coomers.
Some maybe might not pay, or want to haggle prices, or ask to draw them futanari furry loli diaper commission, which i honestly would have no problem doing, but i just don't want to deal with people directly and be tangled in their lives.';

'>>7153727
honestly you could commit tax evasion easier prison economy style';

'>>7153731
I could, but in prison they send you to get a job at less than min wage and you have no right on neetbux anymore.

But i could go commit murder and get a slap on the wrist. It's just money that they really don't fuck around.';

'>>7153739
by "prison economy" I more mean off the record/hutsle stuff';

'>>7153663
They're not artists. They're beggars. Beggars belong to the streets, not on the internet.';

'>>7153779
>thinking we need more homeless/beggars annoying people IRL is any better';

'>>7153779
Just like you beg for your master on your tiny desk typing meaningless digits';

'>>7151362
> its a way to earn money

Yeah one of the worst ways. If you are doing it for this reason you are a moron. Much easier and better ways to make money.';

'>>7153856
Sucking cocks doesn’t count anon';

'>>7153856
Totally, such as——';

'>>7153856
Dumb crabggot stfu';

'>>7151471
That reminds me, is GoonClown in prison yet?';

'>>7153858
>>7153860
>>7154581
holy copium. get a job you teenagers.

What's your back up plan, gonna be a "famous youtuber"? LOL

I could make more money working at Pizza Hut than you three making art combined';

'>>7154807
Literally who';

'>>7151353
if the normies love it so much why does it have to be used in secret?';

'>>7151409
Do not repost my original hand made art. I will call the police.';

'>>7151404
also mine, national guard is on their way';

'>>7151477
>>7152991
>>7151971

mine mine mine';

'Can you ban this homo posting boring stemslop on an art board>>7154887';

'>>7151353
by this by-the-numbers logic videogames are dead because housewives play candy crush saga or whatever
>>7151363
no, fuck off, there's like 7 slop generals already';

'>>7154869
>if the normies love it so much why does it have to be used in secret?
Because of the anti-ai-art screechers. It shouldn't have to be secret, people should be able to tie thier AI creations to their name without such backlash.';

'>>7151353
>Almost nobody gives a fuck about "AI art is theft"
>Even if img2img is theft, the consumers don't give too many shits.
>>7156914
if the consumers dont care then why do the prompters? surely the anti-ai-screechers arent their target audience/market so why entertain their opinions over openly embracing ai? are there real world consequences to doing so that i dont know of? other than exposing yourself as a fraud con-artist poser who misrepresents their abilities?';

'>>7153860
Any actual job?';

'>>7156977
>if the consumers dont care then why do the prompters?
You're right. I think its just because generating AI coom isn't exactly something you want grandma and grandpa to know.
>surely the anti-ai-screechers aren't their target audience/market so why entertain their opinions over openly embracing ai?
I don't know you'll have to ask them.
are there real world consequences to doing so that i dont know of?
Yeah getting exposed as a smut maker isn't good for most people, especially ones in progressive or religious circles who are anti-porn and anti-ai. Like being a good cook with meat while living amongst vegans who just don't understand.
other than exposing yourself as a fraud con-artist poser who misrepresents their abilities?
I think the con-artist/poser attitude is an invalid way to perceive others especially if you are open about your AI usage. Like its in the user name most times.';

'>>7157038
so now youre saying they use ai in secret to avoid exposing themselves publicly as smut makers? does using ai to make your degen fetish porn instead of hand drawing it make a difference to your grandparents?

>>7157038
>I think the con-artist/poser attitude is an invalid way to perceive others especially if you are open about your AI usage. Like its in the user name most times.
we're talking about people who use ai in secret and pass off the art as hand drawn, stay on topic or admit defeat';

'>>7157060
>we're talking about people who use ai in secret and pass off the art as hand drawn
That's simply because they want to larp as artists, they wish they had the creativity or the skill to be a real artists but they don't to so they resort to lying to their audiences. As soon as people realize it's AI they stop saying stuff like "Wow that must have took a lot of effort and a while to build the skill to be able to do something like that" to "prompt??"';

'>>7157060
>we're talking about people who use ai in secret and pass off the art as hand drawn, stay on topic or admit defeat
No we are not, we were talking why prompters keep their prompting hidden. You failed to specify you were talking specifically about prompters who were passing off their gens as real art and not disclosing their use of SD/Pony etc.
>>7157060
>so now youre saying they use ai in secret to avoid exposing themselves publicly as smut makers? does using ai to make your degen fetish porn instead of hand drawing it make a difference to your grandparents?
This is absurd, you're deliberately misinterpreting my posts. By that logic, you should be signing your posts rather than being anon to grill ai-users?';

'>>7157090
Are you an AIbro?';

'>>7157068
yup, fraud con-artist posers.

>>7157090
>we were talking why prompters keep their prompting hidden.
what reason is there to keep it hidden that you prompt if not to pass off the art as hand drawn?

>>7157090
>This is absurd, you're deliberately misinterpreting my posts.
how? you changed the topic from prompters being ashamed to admit they prompt to them being ashamed of making smut - something real artists do with no problems. so why would it suddenly be an issue for an ai fag on twitter to make smut using ai openly? it wouldnt be. hiding the prompting is the issue and it isnt because anti-ai fags are doxxing known ai users and showing their grandparents the diaper vore, its because they KNOW the public is not big on ai like the op claims. so admit it or run this through chatgpt because youre doing poorly';

'>>7157118
Honestly the ones that hide it are retards considering there's plenty that don't hide it while making bank on patreon. They can easily spam the algorithim and amass tons of followers and patreon subs quick. Meanwhile the artist larpers just do it because they want to be seen as something they really aren't, that is above their fellow prompters and on the same footing as a genuine artist. I hate to use the tranny allegory but it's really fitting for them';

'>>7157123
i was literally thinking the same thing a few posts ago. why go after a market that hates your guts when there is money to be made from slop loving paypigs? at least the shameless ones have a realistic view on it. i mightve dipped my toes in myself if my computer wasnt trash.';

'>>7153729
They aren’t twitter is,either way you can only really make money off of ads on YouTube';

'>>7156986
Back tot the vague cuck';

'>>7157216
Wanna try that again';

'It makes me kinda sad.';

'>>7151360
artists adds something new, their own artistic touch. ai just copies and combines without knowing why';

'>>7157101
Yeah I try to be.';

'>>7152047
>>7152045
He is right though.';

'>>7152118
The animation is what made it popular, it's nothing amazing or ground breaking, and the drawn art is no what people are applauding.';

'The future's not scary, not investing in it is.';

'>ai bait thread
>cris threads
>mikufag threads
>schizo threads
I hate the jannies so goddamn much.';

'Where are you ?';

'>>7157247';

'Valley of mediocrity is a thing.';

'>>7157781
>it's nothing amazing or ground breaking
pyw';

'>>7151353
AI can't express my thoughts, you soulless nigger. You were never going to make it anyway.';

'>>7157990
So what was this post trying to say? That there's no thought spent on this?';

'>>7158023
>AI can't express my thoughts
pyw, let's discuss the new benchmarks in art you're coming up with?';

'>>7151353
>we';

'>>7151353';

'>>7159770
Honestly is that one AInigga now bumping threads that would've died long ago';

'>>7151353
kys, disingenuous tranny.';

'>>7152027
I don't think that was the own you were hoping for, ESL-kun.';

'Smoke weed and masturbate to cartoons.';

'>>7153779
> t. so.ylent slurping bugman';

'>>7159770
> work is for money, art is for fun
Meanwhile every single proompter paywall their shit on deviantart.';

'.';

'>>7151372
I paint for fun too - but I hope people don't stop appreciating my art. I have to admit feeling a bit bummed when AI art started advancing rapidly

I've been learning caricature, which from what I can tell, AI has yet to master.

Wasn't it a thing that AI art had started to pull in reference from other AI art, thereby getting worse? Did they resolve that issue?';

'undefined';

'>>7151362
this is what twitter artwhores actually believe';

'Someone should draw a hand-drawn Deku fighting AI villains';

'>>7160349
>Deku fighting AI villains
villains have to have 6 fingers';

'>>7152066
There's one schizo who's made ruining the board his life purpose. Him being successful doesn't mean that he's right, because if he wasn't here, he would've been wrong all along.
Anyways, he was a porn addicted child and it fucked up his head, then he decided to stop being a porn addict but he never grew up. That's why everything he says involves porn, why he thinks that anyone who likes porn is twelve, why he thinks everyone who makes porn is a groomer, why he thinks he'll never "be enough", why he thinks everyone else is responsible for his issues, and why he thinks that everything bad that happens to others is deserved. After all, if porn ruined his life, and you make any, you're obviously responsible for his suffering. He cries out for nurture from the artist community because his parents never provided any, and he only haunts /ic/ because he drew porn for himself once and has been feeling guilty over it ever since.
If he's right, then you're living your life incorrectly if you're not a delusional sociopath.';

'What cracks me up is all the Twitter artists going "haha nice nft bro mind if I save it as a jpg LOOOOL LMAO" and now when it's happening to them they're melting down.';

'Kys dumb pajeet';

'>>7160543
I feel kind of bad that I invented this mythos anon. It's taken on a life of its own and I'm not sure anyone here has a high enough IQ to understand the level of post-meta-sincerity neo-authentic based irony cringe my character operates on.

I am sorry for the damage I have caused and I swear never to do it again.';

'>>7160543
Someone having a point doesn't automatically means being correct about everything.
Someone could have a point, despite being wrong.
Hell, even some behaviors might be a point for something

If all you get on this board are insults, more insults, shitty discord drama, anons being illiterate and retarded about anything as fuck that you have to fly over eggshells about anything because god forbid some 15 y.o.'s insecurity gets triggered, inane porn spam and overall just trolling and baiting or jerking off, doesn't the behavior of this schizo have a point?
It's clear that he just puts a mirror in front of this boards absolute cancerous state.';

'/ic anti-AI is Streisand Effect, Your just making it enticing to impressionable kids.';

'>>7160563
All people care about is drama and porn now.
If you're human, have a soul, an IQ over 99 and don't have your brain rotten by consumerism, you unironically have no place to be or fit in.

It's over. Humanity is done for.';

'>>7160565
Good. I hope they waste their lives on their AI girlfriends and porn addictions and fall into existential despair. If they aren't smart enough to avoid the trap, they deserve to be filtered.';

'>>7160563
>It's clear that he just puts a mirror in front of this boards absolute cancerous state.
That's one way to romanticize a psychopathic mental breakdown, sure.';

'>>7160586
You're only admitting that you genuinely believe that everything on the internet is serious business.

And i hope for your own sake that you're only pretending to be retarded.';

'>>7160597
Jokes on you, I'm most points of view in every argument on /ic/

Lay down and die with me.';

'undefined';

'>>7151353
/ic/ - Artwork/Critique';

'>>7152991
>i fear that we live in a world where anyone can take a child's face and superimpose it over porn
wagmi bros, our time has finally come';

'>>7151362
>Art is not expression
>its a way to earn money.
t.';

'I would just like to know how do you know what's AI? At this point I cannot tell. The obvious hands and AI style doesn't cut it anymore.';

'>>7164460
Nigger fuck off bumping every AI thread that should of ended days ago';

'>>7160562';

'Honestly if niggers want to keep bumping this shit when it goes to pg8 rest of this thread should now be a music playlist
Post em if you have em';

'>>7164485
Is it allright if I post AI covers?';

'>>7164489
>t.sodafag';

'>>7164489
Well some one did some with SpongeBob characters singing my dad is a war criminal.
Funny thing too I think some of them had this as well though I think they got deleted';

'>7162968';

'https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=75DbkiZvxX4&pp=ygUgeW91IGFyZSB3aGF0IHlvdSBlYXQgZnJhbmsgemFwcGE%3D';

'Here's some rap
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ls7YNbIyhbY&pp=ygUfYml6enkgYm9uZSBoZWF2ZW4neiBtb3ZpZSBhbGJ1bQ%3D%3D';

'>>7151354
This is a midwit /beg/ tier cope. You are pretentious, cringe and are NGMI. I bet your art is /beg/ tier shit. You're ngmi. Kill yourself.';

'>>7164679
If the shoe fits...';

'>>7164679
Riddle me this: why is it that the ones who embraced AI failed or mediocre artists?';

'>>7164687
Riddle me this: why is every successful artist embracing AI?';

'>7164744
NTA but vil you be giving us shad as an example';

'>>7151362
EXCUSE ME I HAVE 2 FOLLOWERS AND CONSISTANTLY GET 2 LIKES. I'm famous now. I don't know how to handle all this.';

'https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8oLDY_sgXjU&pp=ygUIa2F0eXVzaGE%3D';

'>>7151375
Fotm shit is hard to churn out with ai tho. Stuff that already has a massive databank like Mario Luigi SpongeBob etc are easy.';

'>>7151375
>They never wanted to do great art, or to master the craft, they just wanted to make their shit OCs or fetish ideas to exist somehow.
If you don't want to draw fetish porn and shitty OCs why are you even drawing at all?';

'>>7165000
>Fotm shit is hard to churn out with ai tho. Stuff that already has a massive databank like Mario Luigi SpongeBob etc are easy.
Truth.
Been wanting a LoRa to generate porn of Kagura and Yura from Inuyasha but the pickings are so slim I have to frankenstein tags together to get them to appear';

'>>7165008
So then anon were you only gonna be clout chasing socials';

'https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs&pp=ygUNc292aWV0IGFudGhlbQ%3D%3D';

'>>7165012
>So then anon were you only gonna be clout chasing socials
If you draw a perfect picture but share it with nobody, did the effort put into it actually matter?
Is art made in the void the only valid art?';

'>>7164744
Source: my ass.';

'>>7151353
I look forward to AI used for content farm garbage. Look forward to Elsagate 3.0';

'>>7165081
>I look forward to AI used for content farm garbage
People have been doing this for 2 years.';

'artists with composition and shoop skills using AI models already dominate those without. and truly good artists can create their own styles.
nerds proficient enough in the math and programming behind models, tinkering on them as a hobby or job at a startup or uni, will yield higher quality outputs from the models
good artists using such a nerd as a consultant to use the state of the art models, configurations, training models to use and enhance their own original styles etc. will be the nietzschean uber-artists of the next generation
and then a generation or two after that, the AI models wont just be in the domain of creating digital files, but doing real life painting, sculpting, and so on.';

'>>7165109
So art skills will always be necessary and make one more valuable than one that can only prompt. Who'd a thought?
Anyway, prompting is easier than acquiring art skills, so you should still focus the majority of your time on sucking less at the fundies (which you won't, because you're subhuman at best.)';

'>>7151353
Why should I care about normies faggot. They change their opinions constantly depend on how Jews want them to believe. They went from "protect artist from woke" to "all artists are woke" because Jews told them so. If you don't support Israel and AI to replace you, you are a leftist muslim terrorist tranny now.';

'>>7165152
>y depend on how Jews want them to believe.
u 1 sic fuc';

'>>7165109
>artists with composition and shoop skills using AI models already dominate those without
Got any examples?';

'>>7164749';

'>>7165170
Any artist worth their salt is disgusted by AI so you'll find they never come up with any shining examples. Its grift town inhabited by grifters.';

'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjiQX74gqpk';

'>>7165109
The hybridization of good artists with time saving technology will allow the proliferation of an artists pieces by tenfold.';

'https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j21EsOJDLsY&pp=ygUPcGljYXl1bmUgZHJlYW1z
Game I found that like the ost';

'>>7165170
controlnet, inpainting, and other features that provide for inputs beyond the prompt. the models are much better at meeting the user halfway and applying shading and texture to an otherwise coherent drawing. just being able to redraw hands to a point where the AI can finish the shading will dunk on pure button clickers or mspaint attempts at redrawing.
good artists with distinctive features get chosen for special focus, typically as a model ("lora") loaded on top of a base model. or styles created for specific projects like grand theft auto or ghost in the shell.';

'>>7165332
NTA but you sound like your throwing buzzwords at a wall like your attempting to shill with how non descript your wording is';

'>7165332
stay on /g/ you possible ESLfag do you need ChatGPT to fuckin do all your typing';

'>>7165340
everything they said is accurate AI fag garbage. "good" AI is using a bunch of random addons designed to more efficiently thieve from people who actually produce societal value.';

'>>7165332
you didn't post any examples of artists utilizing this instead you just went on about AI like a shill';

'>>7151353
I don't give a shit if facebook and instagram faggots like it and also I'm not reading the rest of this gay ass post
you are a faggot';

'>>7165332
They need easy to use automagical "fix hands post processing" before I can use it regularly. Otherwise, AI is VERY interesting.';

'>>7151437
This

Verification not required';

'.';