'>>46527821';

'>>46527826';

'>>46527821
What is the appeal of Len'en? Guys who are so burned out from Touhou they need to move onto another nearly identical franchise?';

'>>46527827';

'>>46527828
Not necessarily, you don't need to be burned out from one to enjoy the other. For me the appeal is that it reminds me of early-day Touhou (relatively small cast, good music, a lot of speculation about its' world).

Also the games are good and have quite nice music.';

'>>46527828
the games have some interesting mechanics
the lenens are also brown and grey, and their sex is ambiguous i think';

'>>46527867
>the lenens are also brown and grey
there are some colorful len'ens, but I agree that in general their colors are more muted than Touhous';

'>>46527821
the umbrella is a cute';

'lennnies?
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww no thanks';

'>>46527867
>their sex is ambiguous
This is what kills it.';

'>>46527867
actually, most of them are greens and are lolis (canon in my head)
>>46527857
>quite nice music
It either really good or unbelievably bad. EMS are perfect while a lot of haze castle route are actually painful to listen';

'Len'en made me realize that ZUN is actually a pretty good character designer. Lennies look so unappealing compared to 2hus.';

'>>46529429
JynX they're whatever they want you to be, to me they're just all little girls, like >>46529802 said.

I don't get JynX didn't just give them genders, though, I guess it's kind of cool to leave it up to the viewer to interpret because it gives them more creative freedom, but it also just sounds like a bit of a cop-out especially since most of them clearly look like girls.

But either way how insecure do you have to be to say a small comment like that ruins an entire franchise for you? God forbid you see the state of the Touhou fandom in the west nowadays, lol...';

'fellas, is it gay to stick your dick into a lem'en?
>>46529826
>ZUN is
*ZUN was';

'>>46531805
>west
JP isn't the West retard.';

'Lenen is trans rights propaganda';

'>>46532065
name 1 instance of the word "transgender" or "trans" being used anywhere in the len'en franchise';

'>>46531981
>fellas, is it gay to stick your dick into a lem'en?
We just don't know';

'>>46531981
only if you want it to be';

'>>46532215
Could Xeno a use her powers to make her pregnancy chance 100%';

'>>46531981
>*ZUN was
Agreed. I miss the time when the touhous were cute and dressed like dolls, now the new ones are all weird with horns and shit, especially from Touhou 17 to now.';

'>>46532377
yes, but unfortunately...

your chances of hooking up with her are 0%!';

'>>46529802
>a lot of haze castle route are actually painful to listen
what do you mean? I think the haze castle route in 4 has the best music by far, Meeting a Hero, Haze Castle Phantom Road, Homunculus Nightmare, Ruler of a Deceased Moon... the stage 2 and 3 bosses' themes aren't bad, either';

'>>46532532
just wait until the Hell arc is over';

'>>46533107
>Hell arc
Secondary spotted.
Leave.';

'>>46532919
I will tap into the cosmic rapeforce and gather the strength and sexual prowess of an uncountable number of fat smelly ojisans all across the multiverse
She won't stand a chance
She will be impregnated';

'>>46529429
"bro these incorporeal beings that have no concept of reproduction or the burdens of being alive have no set predetermined gender and as such are ambiguous to being either. clearly, every one of them and especially Jinx is trooning out because it's ultimately up to you if they display masculine or feminine traits, leaving gender up to first impression. clearly we'd never allow the cardinal sin of having a personal canon to transgress our superior tradhou project, who could possibly be a fan of these games and possess such a thing?"';

'>>46531981
You mean, in the asshole? That's gross.

What about frotting?';

'why is Fumikado so cute?';

'>>46535672
sure, no problem
>>46535853
because he's a charismatic dork';

'>>46535853
why is Fumikado so sex?';

'Fact: Suzubae saved the series';

'>>46529826
I don't think it is fair to compare in what way ZUN and Jynx attempt at designing each of their characters.
A lot of touhou old style are very direct and straightforward without any notable aim that can be argued whether if it is bad (e.g Rumia, Sakuya, Letty, Youmu, Yuyuko, Wriggle, Reisen, and more probably idk) so most people just brushed it and then get used to it after exposed for several decade. Not counting that ZUN also overtly intimated by his own inspiration and he had 5 games before the series finally become recognizable.
>>46532988
Stage 1 -3 are snoozefest to listen and none are remarkable by their own, I skipped most of them when listening the full album. Meeting a Hero is fine, I guess. Homunculus kinda funky but it does get annoying the more I concentrate on it. Ruler of a Deceased Moon were just a notespam song and it's just not my thing. Personally I think Rebel of the Warlord's Five Weapon is a better similiar sounding theme as it is less chaotic than Deceased Moon.
>>46536205
nah';

'>>46532178
do not feed the trolls';

'Which Len has the largest hat__?';

'>>46535943
I'd say Fumikado is one of the few Len'en characters that looks unmistakably female';

'>>46527828
>What is the appeal of Len'en?
It's /v/eecords's and /bant/ard's calling card.';

'>>46542032
uhm... this one?>>46536375';

'>>46536093
HOT GAY SEX WITH THE STUPID EMPEROR';

'undefined';

'>>46527905
she is indeed a cute';

'>>46544545
Really? Do you have proof? I'm legitimately curious.';

'JynX need to make more standalone len'en album instead of stupid gachas';

'>>46560715
yeah, I honestly like his music more than ZUN's, it's a waste';

'Melon.';

'What's the best place to get started on Len'en? Any good repositories like Moriya Shrine or english patches for these games?';

'>>46560715
Straight from the horse's mouth, he admitted to not being particularly motivated, or interested, in pursuing the completion of that gacha. It only saw completion thanks to being knee deep and would've been a waste to drop.
Also, apparently, all that time, ideally, was to spent on perfecting BpoHC: adding golden chapter, tweaks, non-extensive routes. You get it.

Now we wait until 2030 for it.
Gacha for life.';

'>>46573197
>Any good repositories like Moriya Shrine?
JynX himself hands out the games for free, you can get them here: https://mugentrick.tubakurame.com/Game_en.xhtml

>english patches for these games?
As for english patches, they're all in the wiki, here: https://lenen.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Game_Tools_and_Modifications/English_patches

For the Len'en 4 english patch, the one on the wiki is outdated/incomplete if memory serves me right. I'd reccomend getting it from this video's description instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt_zeK-uCb8&list=PLegvVwmfKri9gMR13qu3rdaqN-g_oeDhd
This whole video actually does a pretty good job at explaining Len'en 4, as it's completely different from touhou and any of the previous games.

If you're interested in the characters and lore, the wiki has plenty of info. Oh, and just like the older Touhou games, Len'en games come with a text file explaining the events that set out the story of the game, but in this case it won't be translated. You can find it on the wiki, though.

I hope that wasn't too much, enjoy your time in Mugenri, friend!';

'>>46573721
can you just play them in chronological order or is it like touhou where you're supposed to start with 6?';

'>>46573739
there isn't a len'en 6, retard';

'>>46573739
You're supposed to play them in chronological order, yes';

'>>46573721
Thank you for responding to my post, I will definitely follow this guide and get things set up.';

'>>46573771
>len 6 never ever
sadge';

'>>46574291
come back and tell us what you think!';

'never forget zun ripped off the haniwa';

'>>46573547
its really not looking good for us lenners huh
dammit I really want to play as Sanra';

'>>46573547
>Now we wait until 2030 for it.
is this also straight from the horse's mouth or just an exageration?';

'>>46589245
A slight exaggeration. Cut it down to about 2027 and it's somewhat correct, or perhaps not.
Consider this: the recent announcement disclosing that all games will be remade probably means a lot of work until eventually things settle down to 4 and, in concert with this, there's the whole production involving the 5th fighting game, which presumably is now capitalizing most attention.

Priority-wise, the rankings are [ I conjecture ] something like this--Finish up 5, then procedurally work on 1 to 4.
Of course, again, bearing in mind that the games will be releasing on steam, it's possible that any positive uptick their --great sales, high reviews, good reception-- will ensue in JynX more fastidiously working on Len'en; something that he can go at to great lengths, qua JynX 18 hour work style.

In the end, maybe an estimate of late next year is might be best, but as always, it's good to keep expectations low.
Remember, le01 & le02 were released in the same year, in the same month, on the same date. Le03 came out around 1 year later, le04 2 years later and then 7 years later, le000.

The teasers for the remakes and the fighting game are....202X. Very clearly, things will not be coming out any time soon.
But hey, there's a promise that things aren't dead, and that's what matters most.';

'>>46584371
More of a Mitori guy myself. I'm personally invested in the story quite a bit, so I hope things don't go awry there.
It is rather remarkable how each event in each game ties so neatly into the other. Seriously, it's impressive. Stupidly impressive.
Apparently, JynX had intent in penning a novel, which, cool as it sounds, is something I rather he dismisses in lieu for continuing to actualize that would-be-story into the games, to end up with a danmaku series where each game is but a chapter of a grand story.
An expressly story-danmaku game, not danmaku-story game.';

'>>46589536
>But hey, there's a promise that things aren't dead, and that's what matters most
We haven't eat anything in the past how many years now, I just want to eat something that isn't a dead gacha holy hell.';

'>>46589536
>the 5th fighting game
Wait what? Where can I read more about this? First time I hear about it. Or are you talking about Monochrome World?

>JynX had intent in penning a novel, which, cool as it sounds, is something I rather he dismisses in lieu for continuing to actualize that would-be-story into the games
I disagree, I feel like a novel/manga would greatly benefit the franchise because so far our only impression of Mugenri is a bunch of trees sliding around in crude 3D backgrounds, we desperately need to see more of the world, maybe in a more ordinary day-to-day lifestyle fashion like Forbidden Scrollery was for Touhou, a story that expands on the game's universe and characters while still being something that wouldn't fit into a game in itself';

'>>46589614
>>46593320
Sorry, forgot to give you your (you)';

'>>46593320
>Our only impression of Mugenri is a bunch of trees sliding around in crude 3D backgrounds
The world Mugenri is given many a description within the textual descriptions that flash on your screen upon entering any stage, in any game, always. Together with this, you have plentiful character interactions, whose contents are actually typically discussing the very nature of its phenomenal reality, and the pathocratic plus societal machinations within. Feel free to check out RME extra stage for that, what with Yabsume and Tenkai's conversation, and of course EmS stage 3. Atop all this, you have JynX creating omakes/prologues, not only assuredly for each game, but for all their extra stages, often described as being 'too unnecessarily long', where beyond kick starting the resolution to an incident, snippets of Mugenri are brought up again and again, surely not without reason.

--All this to say, in the end, there's enough existent material, with only 4 games, to construct a perception of this world surely at least more animate than 'idle trees' and 'commonplace backgrounds'.

Anyway, why want a novel/manga exploring the world, when the central experience behind all Len'en games treat the resolution of their incidents as stepping stones toward that end, and toward the culmination of Suzumi Kuzu's eventual total confrontation of its 'birds', as well their progenitor Tsurubami, whose own exploration must disclose more regarding Mugenri, given her reigning and once oppressive control of it.
Things are perfect as they are, and a manga/novel would take what would be --what might've been more aptly placed in the game--, and consign them to a textual world bereft of a more primary investment. It really isn't worth it.

While Touhou is fun, and while a great deal of the world can be explored in literary works + music albums, I think I'd prefer if Len'en stays as is, being of a kind where the exploration of its contents are entirely exclusively in what comes with downloading the game.';

'Which boss fight is your favorite?
And which tracks do you like the most?

I like fighting Fumikado and Yaorochi, and Mowed-Down Relationship, The Untruth Patronizes the Truth, and Burning of the Little Birds' Black Wings are my favorite tracks.';

'>>46598702
Lumen, Yaorochi and Tasouken is really fun.

>The Untruth Patronizes the Truth
Based, one of JynX's best. Extremely underrated.
I like that, Spell Collector and Ironic Fate';

'>>46598702
His battle and his theme are peak danmaku';

'>>46598702
I only played BPoHC to completion, know the plot/listened to soundtrack of the rest, but I am an extreme casual in shooting games.
>Which boss fight is your favorite?
1. Ooama no Ake no Mitori
2. Taira no Chouki
3. Fujiwara no Shirogane no Sanra
>And which tracks do you like the most?
1. Taira no Chouki
2. Hibaru Kokutenshi
3. Kuroji Shitodo
4. Para and Taira no Fumikado
5. Xeno a';

'>>46598702
>Boss
Sanra and Kaoru because of their neat gimmicks, I also liked Chouki's fight a lot visually and Suzumi both hame and ardy
>Themes
Prismic Drive just for being such a massive step up from its predeccesor.
Also like Act the fool and Arch of Nagara a lot also Suzumi's theme';

'>>46606032
>Act the Fool
clownish taste as expected from Suzufag';

'>>46606654
I will bash your head with the banjo from that theme';

'>>46610117
What's her endgame?';

'>>46610117
bash me over my big ass plumpy fedora, creeps';

'>>46600936
The non-spells may have some flaws, but it's hard to deny that Tenkai's battle and theme are among the very best in Len'en.';

'>>46612850
Gay (?) sex with Tsubakura';

'I want to punch Kuroji';

'>>46619699
It's not safe to say these things online, Saragimaru-chan!';

'>>46619699
Kuroji was made for rape';

'>>46625291
do not have sex with evil women';

'seggs with snek';

'>>46627809
which snek?';

'>>46625291
You know his ability will just turn you into the raped one instead, right?';

'>>46612850
Complete conquest and domination
>>46613498
*PLAP*';

'>>46625683
It's not sex, it's rape';

'undefined';

'>>46647717
Wooooahhh!!!! SUPER HANIWA!!!';

'undefined';

'>>46652820
I don't really fond with this trio tbqh desu, kinda force relation they had';

'>>46654802
I think they have the best dynamic in the game, the banter is really funny';

'Before this dies i just wanna say that EE has the best soundtrack from the series, seconded by BPoHC's brilliant route themes.';