'so frail, so delicate';

'>>46681499
Satori really should exercise a bit more.';

'Mizuchi should possess and inflict testicular torsion on anons who make CDS threads days before the new chapter comes out';

'>>46681563
What is this expression attempting to convey';

'>>46681499
NOT AGAIN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
MY MASTURBATION ADDICTION IS RETURNING!';

'>>46681563
Now I feel an uncontrollable urge to rape Satorin.';

'>>46681726
many such cases';

'>>46681563
Satummy vs Frandorr is the best thing that has ever happened in any of the official mangas.';

'>>46681604
angery';

'>>46681499
Fat';

'>>46681499
no boobies whatover';

'>>46681604
Laughter during an intense juxtaposition of painful and euphorically erotic stimulation induced by tiny electric prongs clamped to her clitoris?';

'>>46682359
Perfect for naizuri';

'>>46681499
She has NOTHING

NOTHING under those rags';

'>>46681499
The flab squish…';

'>>46681499
How easy would it be to rape Satori?';

'>>46681499
They finally here...';

'>>46684236
you won't trick me anon, the chapter isn't out until monday';

'>>46681499
Lotus Eaters gives us more sexyhus, especially Reimu gets a lot of panels where her curves are shown';

'>>46684420
But Reimu makes more grumpy faces in CDS.';

'>>46684236
PREDICTION';

'>>46684420
I prefer these >>46681499 >>46681563 >>46681604 >>46684236 to oni, tengu, and bakedanuki sucking each other's dicks.';

'>>46684420
Cucktus Eaters is ambien in comic form, at least things happen in CDS.';

'>>46681499';

'>>46681499
Literally any excuse for sarashi is important';

'>>46684619
I love Satummy's muffintop....';

'>>46684236
>>46684281
okay so I realised this is actually true and I am apologising for accusing you of tricking me
koishi and okuu should have been in already (or at least mentioned by now) but I'm glad they're showing up
not a fan of koishi's first appearance in this ALREADY being one with her holding a blade though, it's just gonna make koishifags even more unbearable';

'>>46684236
Translation please?';

'I think we should give Mizuchi credit for getting all the strongest around after her ass
>Reimu
>Flandre
>Now Okuu and Koishi
Literally on par with Yuuma lineup';

'>>46685551
OH I SEE HOW IT IS YOU CAN BE REIMU AND GET YOUR ASS BEAT IN HALF THE RECENT GAMES AND EVERYONE STILL CONSIDERS YOU THE STRONGEST BUT YOU MISCALCULATE AND GET POSSESSED BY MIZUCHI O N C E AND SUDDENLY YOU'RE NOT IN THE CONVERSATION ABOUT STRONG PEOPLE ANYMORE YEAH SURE THAT'S FINE THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE AND FURTHERMORE-';

'>>46685616
>Yukari
>Fight';

'>>46685616
Ha ha jobber sage who’s tarnished reputation probably won’t recover.';

'>>46685218
>not a fan of koishi's first appearance in this ALREADY being one with her holding a blade though, it's just gonna make koishifags even more unbearable
I remember an anon saying something like "ZUN is destroying the fanon depictions of the characters" a few months after CDS started.';

'>>46684236
Where was this first posted?';

'>>46686195
thgairai twitter';

'>>46685616
I'm sorry Yukari but you're not even in the conversation anymore.

You should fight enemies on your level such as Kosuzu or Lily instead of trying to lick fights with the big girls';

'>>46681512
>powerful Youkai who could easily kills me
>but the way she looks makes me wants to protect her';

'>>46686015
Koishi pays for his beer, please understando';

'>>46684236
Hope we'll get some KoiFlan interactions';

'>>46685616';

'>>46686600
Dumb hag. It feels good to see her fail.';

'next chapter in 3 days';

'>>46686600
Fuck this story I hope zun gets testicular torsion';

'>>46686600
Pathetic, even kasen doing better then you right now.';

'>>46685345
KKHTACHAD WON';

'Hey guys, remember when Koishi joked about decorating the Chireiden with dead bodies in AoCF? Doesn't really sound like a joke anymore huh?
Bet your ass she have assassinated all of Satori's enemies in Former Hell';

'>>46684236
Ah the mentally ill retard is finally here';

'>>46687052
>if anything, I'd rather do the dirty work
she really is just flan of the underground';

'>>46687155
I always have that hunch, because Koishi, even while being subconscious, still have a certain power-hungry tendency
>Hear Kanako give Okuu superpower, immediately head to Moriya Shrine to ask for power for all of her pet
>Partnered with Marisa in AoCF and clearly love the idea of being "the strongest"';

'>>46687117
Did she repeat that in AoCF? She said that to Marisa in SA and that sentence is probably what inspired KKHTA';

'>>46687052
KKHTACHADS always win. ZUN is secretly one, never forget he personally approved this.';

'>>46686427
Didn’t flan go back home';

'>>46687883
Yeah she did, when Remilia said she was kind of in it to avenge Patchouli and was surprised Flandre actually cared that much about her family';

'>>46685634
she beat up a bratty celestial that one time';

'>>46687835
She looks like a chuuni.';

'>>46688397
That was in Danmaku though, everyone beats everyone in that.

Plus it's Tenshi, practically every spanked her ass';

'>>46688530
>practically every spanked her ass
only because she held back
her whole route is her not holding back and soloing everyone she goes up against';

'>>46688537
in fairness, reimu and yuyuko were the only impressive victories she had in her all-balls-in route';

'>>46688750
Didn't she beat Suika as well?

I'm still kinda mad Tenshi didn't kick Yukari's face in as well';

'>>46688530
I'd say it was gloves off Danmaku, there was shooting and Spellcards but it was very physical. Didn't need a Spellcard declaration to shove surprise road signs up a maiden's ass.';

'>>46687835
Are those 2 gunblades???';

'>>46688779
>Didn't she beat Suika as well?
she was drunk out of her mind for the whole game, so she doesn't really count (or does she?)
Patchi can also be considered impressive, but something tells me she isn't exactly a battle wizard of sorts despite all of her knowledge, so she doesn't count either
maybe Sakuya could be considered impressive? a little bit too reliant on her time stop ability
>I'm still kinda mad Tenshi didn't kick Yukari's face in as well
bratty annoying sky girl who can get things done and kick ass when she doesn't play games vs powerful proud ancient youkai who gets her butt kicked a little bit too much
a pretty dinamic duo now that i think of it';

'>>46688866
I didn't notice them at first. God that's so fucking cool!';

'>>46689009
>maybe Sakuya could be considered impressive? a little bit too reliant on her time stop ability
Sakuya was the first person Tenshi mentioned to finally make her feel "tired", she also acknowledged her as a "fairly strong" opponent.
I also recall Reimu saying the only reason Sakuya lost to her may have been because she got a little too overconfident just because she possesses such an unique ability. Implying she was too cocky to use it as seriously as she could.';

'>>46689244
>little too overconfident
the only think i like about Kaleidoscope, apart from the character design, the completely mundane yet pure logical way sakuya got defeated, by being immobilized. a second level enchantmen "hold Person" in D&D.';

'>>46684619
The architect strikes again.';

'>>46689244
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.';

'The Sin Is Not In Being Outmatched, But In Failing To Recognize It.
>>46689669
Completely agree';

'>>46690853
It was a humbling experience, since after her defeat in EoSD, she was only able to realize her true potential after becoming an incident solver.';

'>>46681499
Why does a youkai need first aid in the first place? I thought they were just formless shapes that can heal any wound instantly?';

'>>46691068
>He doesn't play the games and doesn't read the story.';

'>>46691068
Byakuren insist on bandaging Sayori up just in case';

'>>46688530
>Plus it's Tenshi, practically every spanked her ass
Yeah Tenshi is one of the characters that got her ass handed to her the most times.

She somewhat event the score latter but still it is pretty funny how often she jobbed';

'The artist already lewded Satori ages ago.

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/54638576';

'>>46686015
Fucking how when Flan was depicted in CDS as an insufferable crazy fightfag';

'>>46693657
Because lots of Flan headcanon depicts her as a cutesy innocent little girl who is forced to stay instead by her sister

CDS shattered all of that';

'>>46693802
>>46693657
or they depict her as an actual off the deep end psychopath with no restraints or limits
we get a flan in CDS who's right in the middle of it all. She's a fightfag, but she doesn't go wild unless she's specifically told that she can, and she obeys satori's plan the whole way through, even doing things like stopping her attack to suggest they all move outside so that shou can fight properly
the worst she does is try and kill meiling, and that's because she and sakuya were 'cleaning things up' and flan thought that meiling was the true enemy because she'd sensed an intense malice coming from her (actually now that I'm thinking about it, mizuchi was already gone when flan tried to kill meiling, meaning the only time flan could have sensed said malice is when meiling delivered food to sakuya while she was trapped in the basement)';

'>>46693657
It destroyed the "Kaguya is a NEET" fanon';

'Thats cool and all but im still wondering what the fuck was the point of Mizuchi getting Alice';

'>>46693984
comedy, she finally shows up again only to not speak and spend the whole time in a coma
seriously though I suspect that since the artist was already struggling to cope with the workload on top of whatever that harassment she was getting was, she might have asked ZUN to stall on the Eientei arc starting for a little bit, and ZUN already had Mizuchi possessing Marisa to get to her targets, so he must have figured that Alice would be a viable target for her.';

'>>46687052
KOISHI AVENGING SATORI BY VIOLENTLY MUTILATING FLAN IS ON THE TABLE, MOTHERFUCKERS!!!! TOTAL KKHTA VICTORY o/';

'>>46693900
That doesn't disprove she's a neet.
Are you mistaking neet for hikikomori?';

'>>46693842
The storyline is quite a clusterfuck to say the least. It's kind of hard to believe she got Meiling with a possessed Patchouli, when she should have been watched over constantly after being supposedly "killed".
Where did she get the time to go to the kitchen and tamper with the Chinese tea?';

'>>46693900
It also destroyed the "Kaguya and Mokou always kill each other whenever they meet" fanon. For me, it's an improvement since I hate NEET Kaguya.';

'>>46686600
Reimu also indirectly called Yukari's (and Kaguya's) abilities not threatening lol';

'>>46694489
I thought the fanon was "Kaguya and Mokou always have sex with each other whenever they meet".';

'>>46694489
It also told us what Kaguya contributes to Eientei, being responsible for its defense.

Eientei was my favourite part of the Mamga so far but that might be being biased since Kaguya is my favourite character, IN was the first touhou game I played and Eientei being my favourite crew';

'>>46694625
>>>/u/
>>>/lgbt/';

'>>46693900
>>46694602
>>46694727
Damn, this artist's Kaguya looks freaking cute.';

'>>46694727
Can Kaguya pull a Gojo using her Ability?';

'>>46686015
Koishi have always been like this tho';

'>>46694954
Grimsokyo is not real they said....';

'>>46694954
Can't wait until she and Flan meet. Either they duke out in a horrible way or they befriend each other and be absolute menaces to Gensokyo, much to the headache of their elder sisters.';

'>>46695007
>they befriend each other and be absolute menaces to Gensokyo
I doubt it. Flan still has common sense, and no way Koishit going to befriend anyone.';

'>>46695055
>Flan
Nobody wants to be friends with that smelly NEET';

'>>46694888
Yes
She can make it that it took you inifinite amount of time to reach her, or make it so that your entire life flashed through in a second';

'>>46694973
>Grimsokyo
Koishi and the Komeiji is specifically Former Hell residents. plus Koishi is not all eveil, she was pretty open to Aya's interview request and welcome them to Palace of Earth Spirit (If they can come)';

'>>46695510
"Throughout Heaven and Earth, I alone am the Honored One" ~ Kaguya, probably

Eat your heart out Byakuren';

'>>46695645
Also, Reimu got a point saying Kaguya's power is not threatening, since it is mostly a defensive and utility ability';

'>>46695521
She's evil just like every other 2hu, she's dangerous and would kill without a thought.';

'>>46694602
Reimu's not literally calling them weak, you don't necessarily have to be "strong" to be dangerous. She's most likely referring to powers like Yuyuko's, Yamame's or Medicine's.';

'The more I read CDS, the more I realized that a character's inconsistency between Touhou print works is caused by the character's perspective, even though it is from a third point of view. It explains why some of the characters in CDS are portrayed as unpleasant, incompetent, or even nasty; that's because of how Mizuchi thinks of them.';

'>>46696134
wow anon, really breaking new ground there, aren't you?';

'>>46696141
Meant to >>46695994';

'>>46696149
uh, no it wasn't';

'>>46695645
Bykauren is more like Sukuna, although he's probably a better person than she is.';

'>>46696162
all me desu';

'>>46696179
>>46696141';

'>>46696162
my evil plan was ruined';

'>>46696170
i cannot escape the lobotomy';

'>>46696149
>>46696162
>>46696170
>>46696179
>>46696183
>>46696189';

'>>46696207
>>46694869';

'>>46696210';

'>>46696170
Poor Byakuren, people think psychotic cannibal is a better person then her';

'>>46695055
Also, ith shatter the RemiSato fandom, Remilia would not even approach satori, choosing instead in hiding behind sakuya skirt.

KoiFlan may be the next on the chopping block';

'flatori';

'>>46695994
Since Mizuchi only gets people's abilities, and not the knowledge how to use them, something technical, highly conceptual, or complicated like Kags or Yukari's is probably a bad fit.
So yeah I agree with you.';

'>>46696717
>choosing instead in hiding behind sakuya skirt.
That's something I'd love to see.';

'>>46696790
She literally does in one of the panels.
>>46696765
yes, it had the side effect of creating that pair, truly CDS is the most controversial piece of side content';

'>>46696790';

'>>46691262
Don't the games blatantly contradict them actually getting hurt for longer than a second anyway?
>>46692346
>Sayori
Also again, why? They can instaregenerate?';

'>>46696765';

'CDS makes Flan looks more competent and maturer than her older sister lol
Koishi will pull a Flandre and do what her older sister cannot, subjugate Mizuchi in 2-3 chapters';

'>>46694489
It's an improvement, and shows that Mokou could finally mellow out and relax in Gensokyo. Though I still think they would kill each other for shits and giggles, they're the only people that can do looney tunes style violence for fun.
>>46695824
Exactly!';

'>>46696964
Flan's been presented in that way from BAiJR onward and you could argue that she shows a good level of maturity in EoSD too.
It really does just seem like Koishi might just turn out to be the exact same from the one screenshot we've seen, which is a little bit boring. At least ZUN might actually manage to write her consistently for once, since he flip flops on how conscious she is in every single appearance';

'>>46696942
Satori is known for being a jobber, unlike her sister she's a sickly weak shut in.
Koishi in contrast is considered dangerous and steong by Kasen.';

'>>46688037
>when Remilia said she was kind of in it to avenge Patchouli and was surprised Flandre actually cared that much about her family
I feel like that was just wishful thinking on Remy's part. Flandre was just having fun and she was kinda forced by getting teleported away to begin with.';

'>>46696942
Well anything related to how shit physically performs exactly in Touhou seems a lost cause imo, but one can try. Two possibilities:
1. Byakuren did it because treating youkai like humans is a very Byakuren thing to do, considering the awkward look Satori has that almost looks like her saying "Was this really necessary?".
2. Flan's attack might also be magical, most 2hus seem to have a mix of physical and mental/spiritual/magical attacks going by how Marisa says that Reimu's attack still hurt you, kinda like a holy/cursed/enhanced weapon in a rpg.
>>46696964
>>46696987
Yes, I still remember some anon's saying that Remi was the one that tried acting mature but was in reality childish and that Flan was acting childish but actually mature which really could make a lot of sense.';

'>>46693842
>>46697635
It's surprising how well adjusted Flan is despite everything, and while she's still childish, I think she's strikes a good balance of being mature for her relative age.
While Remi is a kid who tries to act mature, but comes across as a Chuuni. Not to say that Remi is 100% but she gives the feeling of thinking, 'these are the things sophisticated adult vampires do and so I should do them.' Combined with Sakuya treating her like an actual child, high chair and all.
You could also probably extrapolate some genuine goodness from Flan, since ZUN says in her profile she's the type to accidentally hurt humans due to her strength, so her choosing to be a neet could be seen as her also choosing to minimize the chance of hurting people.';

'>>46697635
>>46698340
Remi's chuuniness got called out by Flan is pretty funny
But yeah, it's kinda telling that Flan shown to have complete self-restraint to not stirring shit for hundreds of years in the basement compared to Remi that have 3 whole incident on her name (vampire incident, EoSD, SSiB)';

'>>46697635
>>46698340
>>46698617
Man, I hate Flandre defenders. They love to pretend that their overrated girl is not the chuuniest and immature brat in the house.
>I'm a destructive god that's going to destroy everything!
>Yayy! Sounds fun!
>Can't wait to destroy it!
>I'm going to destroy the black water.
>I just wanna destroy it all right now...
>I'm Flandre Scarlet. The vampire who makes even silent children cry!
>Why do I have to be the one to defeat her? I don't really feel it anymore but, oh well. Let's just destroy her!
>I just want to destroy the indestructible.
>Especially you, who no one else can destroy!
>So, where's the person I have to destroy?
>I've come to destroy her.
>Destroy your enemies!
>Yep, I came here to destroy everything.';

'>>46698824
That's just how Gensokyonites greets each other, please understand';

'>>46698824
Defenders? Whose defending Flan, we're just talking about the parts about her we like.
Her destructive and childish side is part of that.';

'>>46698824
the difference is she only does this when she's given leave to
remi would do it regardless AND fail at it';

'>>46698898
Basically, what you're saying is that a childish brat who doesn't try to act mature is more mature than one who does? Because that's wrong, they're both still stupid brats. As vampires, being forever young also means being forever immature. The only distinction between the two characters is the social experience and cunning of the big sister and the brute strength and intuition of the little one.';

'Both Flan and Remi are chuuni little brats that deserve correction.';

'>>46699275
rape correction?';

'>>46699285
tickle correction';

'>>46699285
Gender correction. By changing their gender to male, they will become more mature and rational.';

'>>46699362
You're the gayest person in this entire website.';

'>>46699402
Even more than OP?';

'>>46689009
Beating Suika is an accomplishing feat no matter whether she's drunk or not. That's an easily dismissible aside, anyway, given her default state precludes all sobriety. Suika being drunk is the default.
Here's an example of what, even with the drunkenness, she's been able to do

On X the Xth,[1] I became aware that the moon had suddenly and silently exploded. Although this was a major event, it occurred so late at night that most people never realized it happened.
The moon quietly scattered out across the sky, and its countless glimmering fragments descended to the Earth. Before long, the fragments thinned out like mist, and then gathered together again to reform the full moon. Since this happened silently over a very short period of time in the middle of the night, it was a stroke of the greatest fortune to bear witness to this fantastically unreal spectacle. Setting out to find out what had happened, I was able to gather enough information to allow me to make contact with the individual who caused the moon to explode.
That individual was Suika Ibuki (oni). She appeared to be extraordinarily drunk, but she spoke quite lucidly when I interviewed her about this incident.

Kek. Here's another-"Quite a while? Look, I've been drinking non-stop for CENTURIES. The last time I was sober is ancient history."
Of course, even toward the end of Tenshi's route, apparently she was disconcerted at how she'd get Suika out of heaven. Confronting her didn't seem to change much.
Anyway, SWR was cool and re-matching everyone with Tenshi was rather fun.';

'>>46699482
On another note, the whole moon exploding thing means Suika temporarily killed the stability of the world, temporarily killing all Lunarians and in the process rendered heaven asunder. Talk about oni superiority.';

'>>46699362';

'>>46699165
Not that Anon, but Flan unlike her sister or the other fight fags, isn't a incident causing trouble maker and generally behaves herself.
She acts like a child, but she acts like a mature child for her age, she isn't childish trying to act like an adult.
She isn't even bratty, brats typically complaint types who don't cause trouble. Literally the only time Flan caused trouble of her own volition is when she was looking for her sister in EoSD, but Patchy didn't want to help and caused a rain storm instead.
Leading Reimu and Marisa to fighting her.';

'>>46699482
You didn't even need to type all that, the ending arc of WaHH made it clear that Tenshi is extremely smart and well-versed in everything hermit-related
Also she is basically immune to bladed weapons, they can't pierce her';

'>>46700413
Tenshi vs Yorihime when?';

'>>46699492
We know that she didn't actually destroy the moon but I believe it was the reflection of the moon.

The lunarians still remains superior to all Gensokyians';

'>>46700413
Ok Shion, I know you are behind this post. Tell Tenshi that she has the best naizuri among the other 2hus.';

'>>46700413
Yeah I hate how people reduce Tenshi to just a rich spoiled brat.

She definitely has some of those characteristics but that's not all there is to her';

'Don't let any of this distract you from the fact that Mr. Krabs sold Spongebob's soul for 62 cents';

'>>46681499
New chapter(s) when?';

'It's here
https://comic-walker.com/detail/KC_004117_S/episodes/KC_0041170003700011_E?episodeType=first';

'>>46707506
Satori really did leave Koishi in charge of the underground.
What retard.';

'>>46707506
Can someone summarize it?';

'>>46707604
Nothing happens. Again.

And they were doing so good with the previous chapter.';

'>>46707620
Don't worry, I'm certain this is only the calm before the storm';

'>>46707506
Yamame!';

'>>46707604
Keep in mind this is all from MTL.
Koishi is trying to calm the rioting Vengeful Spirits, telling them to please wait on Koishi but they mob her. Of note is that initially she call Satori her big sister until correcting herself and addressing Satori as Satori-sama.
Okuu comes in and tells Koishi to let her handle the dirty work of handling/suppressing the spirits, but that causes Koishi to tell Okuu that Okuu isn't her boss and she prefers to do the handy work herself.
Koishi and Okuu then begain fighting off the Vengeful Spirits of the underground together.
Yamamae and Parsee are trying to find their way out and talk about how Old Hell is now like Hell, an actual prison instead of a rehabilitation center.
Also Parsee is really into the idea of the Underground being a place for counselling Vengeful Spirits, she really is good natured.
They decided to keep looking, with Yamamae making a comment about how people like her are born prisoners due to being born as a member of a hated race.';

'>>46707604
Le birb has a ponytail and now my cock is extra hard.';

'>>46707506
Shall we make another thread?';

'>>46708073
no';

'>>46707506
Kisumebros...
We are forgotten...';

'>>46708073
Why not just use this one?';

'>>46708346
I think it would be better if the chapter was in the OP but whatever';

'>>46698824
I thought those examples listed were precisely why she was so popular.';

'>>46707506
We reached a point where Cave Alice is more relevant in an official printed work than normal Alice.';

'Japanese fan are having too much fun with imagining Koishi taking over her sister managerial job in Former Hell (She is the Palace representative when Satori is away)';

'>>46707506
I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THIS!

Where's Mizuchi?! Where are Reimu and Marisa, who promised just two chapters ago to crash the party? Where is my follow-up to the revelations about the Hakurei from the previous chapter? I waited 2 months for this!';

'>>46709550
Slow burn, please understand';

'>>46707506
Okuu has a pretty good wardrobe upgrade in this chapter, koishi seems to be running things in the palace of the earth spirits, also she's being violent about it. Yamame and Parsee are hanging out and being good girls, also hunting for an exit because this being sealed shit sucks.';

'>>46709550
Mizuchi is currently busy with Yuugi';

'>>46695760
According to Memento, Kaguya's control over the instantaneous (which is considered a separate power there) allows her to act in instants imperceivable to normal people, as well as something about parallel histories.
It's all really vague, but it probably works as a souped-up, more conceptual time stop to some extent, vastly eclipsing Sakuya's "no-mass instant moment", like how Lunarians in general often have improved versions of abilities you see amongst Gensokyo's inhabitants.

I wish we saw more of Kaguya's power, honestly, but she seems to hold back heavily by only using tools and not her actual ability, which seems to be pretty busted. I wouldn't even be surprised if Kaguya *is* actually more powerful than Eirin but holds back because she knows Eirin likes to show off.';

'>>46695264
There's Yuuma, she has experience being friends with smelly neets';

'>>46709562
>Okuu has a pretty good wardrobe upgrade in this chapter
meanwhile Parsee's loses all its detail and Yamame's reverted to its boring pre-Gouyoku Ibun design';

'>>46709952
Okina isn't a NEET.';

'>>46710269
Calm down Mai.';

'>>46709479
Imagine the chaos';

'>>46709479
Translation?';

'>>46709634
>I wouldn't even be surprised if Kaguya *is* actually more powerful than Eirin
Just read the official Eirin's profile.';

'>>46714445
Yeah, but IN also claimed that there was never a threat to Eientei's inhabitants because the Lunarians wouldn't be able to reach Gensokyo due to the barrier, a plot thread that was rapidly abandoned because the Lunarians can clearly enter with ease, and didn't even make much sense when it was written since Reisen was already there and only entered Gensokyo after the barrier was established, so I don't believe everything ZUN puts out.
Some of it is clearly just wrong.';

'>>46714479
ZUN wasn't thinking about Toyohime and her bullshit when he was making IN, he was thinking how it was going to be the finale of the series.
IN got hit hard with the retcon button as bad as EoSD when he decided MoF would be a fresh start to the series again.';

'>>46714716
Yeah, but like I said, Reisen already went through the Barrier without problems, and if this part of the lore is discarded so thoroughly, it means that everything else isn't 100% guaranteed either. There's room for doubt now.
So that's why I stick with the view that to the average outsider, Kaguya is the master of Eientei; that to people more in the know, Eirin with her great magics is clearly the more powerful one and running the show; and that the real truth is that Kaguya hides a truly unfathomable power that goes well beyond even Eirin's spells, but since she has great social grace, is quite considerate, and much more observant than most people give her credit for, on top of not having any desire to be in charge, allows Eirin to do as she pleases and effectively lead Eientei, because it makes her happy.
All Kaguya wants to do is play and show off all her cool stuff to others.';

'>>46714778';

'>>46714979
onion men detected, opinion invalidated';

'>>46714979
>>46715023
go back';

'>>46715023
>>46715089';

'>>46715173
"s o y" changed to "onion" by wordfilter. Either a newfag/tourist or a baiter';

'>>46715224
Now one cant even post memes here for fucks sake.';

'>memes';

'>>46715704
Crossposting just to come and shit on the floor are not memes.';

'>>46714778
>Yeah, but like I said, Reisen already went through the Barrier without problems
I always just assumed Yukari was the one letting everyone in.';

'>>46714323';

'>>46719185
>Please comeback
WTF Koishit regains her inner monologue?';

'>>46719251
Japanese humor, the joke is supossed to be the contrast between the character's internal monologue and what they say.
It's a bit sad when people make basic mistakes like this, even ZUN has Koishi act without a monologue.';

'>>46707506
https://mangadex.org/chapter/20c59185-f5c1-4686-9dc7-4d04be3028dd/1
it's up.';

'I will choose to believe that mokoto hirasaka's kokoro and koishi doujin was canon';

'>fanon influencing canon again
Not a fan.';

'>>46719933
I can't believe Koishi used to be into NTR...';

'>>46720098
What do you mean?';

'>>46719933
>ID
What's an ID?';

'>>46720139
A persons subconscious, immediate, and animal desires.
Think of the three F's, Fucking, Feeding, Fighting, and Flight.
Basically Koishi doesn't have a conscious mind so she doesn't think about things and is solely guided my immediate desire.';

'This is all kind of weird since doesn't Koishi enjoy going aboveground herself?';

'>>46720135
barely anything even happens in this chapter so the only thing I can think for him to be talking about is yamame and parsee being friendly? And that shouldn't even come as a surprise because yamame has always been popular in the underground';

'>>46720187
Could've been worse, like the forced Parsee/Yugi shipping that became popular for no other reason than both just being from the same stupid game.';

'Alright which one of you guys is dumping the chapter over at /a/? >>266053166';

'>>46720221
I blame Satori';

'>>46720221
I think an anon promised to do that a while ago but I'm not sure';

'>>46720183
Koishi doesn't think Anon, she's just saying the first thing that comes to mind without thinking about it.
Besides, to her it wouldn't matter, the Vengful Spirits aren't allowed outside so why should they care about the entrance being blocked or not.
But she's unable to understand their point of view and only escalates the situation.';

'>>46720246
You know, for someone totally empty inside who is supposed to act like a dangerous patient with severe schizophrenia, Koishi is quite normalish. She is even capable of correcting herself.';

'I dont see what's the problem, I spend whole days without thinking, even when engaging in conversation with others, and I'm doing fine so why wouldn't Koishi as well?';

'>>46720270
Realistically, given her mental condition, she should be shitting herself and eating sand while trying to stab the clouds in the sky.';

'>>46720256
I think that's showing her lack of foresight, normally a person would've thought through the situation before acting.
But Koishi just does it and then fucks it up, although it was a pretty difficult situation to be in in the first place.';

'I don't care if there was no lore in this chapter because it was cute as fuck';

'>>46720296
Koishi is literally me.';

'>>46720297
There’s are
Apparently Parsee confirmed there IS a contingency system in place in Former Hell in case vengeful spirit escape Former Hell in large numbers. The mere fact that she know this but Yamame don’t imply
>There is a ranked authority system in Former Hell
>Parsee is a pretty high-ranked officer in it to know these things
>Satori is actually a pretty competent ruler seeing how she have such emergency plan prepared';

'>>46720221
>>266053166';

'>>46720333
Didn't Yamame already born when Old Hell is still the actual Hell or I just misremembering something?';

'>>46720297
True. It seems now every character is going to show up at this rate, it's beginning to feel like a Marvel movie.';

'>>46720379
yeah, she talks about missing the kishin in 17.5 meaning she was already around when hell was still located there';

'>>46720379
Apparently this system is pretty fucking old, like it was created right after the Palace being built and Satori become the one in charge';

'>>46720415
How old is Satori by the way?';

'Cave alice is so cute';

'>>46720456
Probably already around before Former Hell is a thing';

'>>46720333
>>Parsee is a pretty high-ranked officer in it to know these things
I guess that makes sense, after all Parsee is basically the gatekeeper to one of the many Surface-Underworld entrance';

'>>46720522
Also it's fucking funny
>"Just do your work"
So Koishi WAS indeed the manager while Satori is away, can you imagine it? Koishi working?';

'>>46720391
>Spoiler
I don't mind it, it makes sense to have the characters associated with areas be present when those areas are being explored. This also gives fan service to fans of old characters because they can still be relevant and do something, no matter how small. It just makes me mad when obvious people who should be in a chapter or have at least something to say are just background mobs. Case in point Keine during FS when it directly involved her school and students.';

'Most of a game's cast showing up is honestly less of an issue than how characters just disappear after their game's arc is over.
I just cannot believe that Mokou wouldn't get involved after getting possessed, or Eirin not enacting Total Spirit Death after Kaguya was taken over.
Mokou probably would've been a better fit than Flandre anyway.';

'>>46720163
I think that was four F's you wrote.';

'>>46720183
Does this mean we're gonna get a rape doujin with Koishi and the vengeful spirits?';

'>>46714979
>>46715173
>>46715704
"s o y"jacks will never be memes but cancer, kys out of this board please';

'>>46720585
>Mokou
I mean she said it herself anon, she don't give a rat's ass if it doesn't involve the Bamboo Forest and seeing that Mizuchi clearly doesn't care about the IN gang anymore, it's outta sight outta mind for her
For Eirin I'm agree though';

'>>46720704
I don't believe for a minute that her chuuni ass doesn't care. She gets involved in the fighting games just out of boredom.
Besides, it's personal now.';

'>>46720729
it probably provides a nice feedback loop for her self-loathing complex to have mizuchi call her a youkai and take her over since she still copes and calls herself human';

'>>46720729
Mokou's story in ULiL is her trying to neck herself while AoCF is pretty much just leftover filler like most of the character';

'>>46720333
Parsee literally guards the bridge to Old Hell, whereas Yamame is a random tsuchigumo living in a tunnel. It makes sense that Parsee is an actual official of Old Hell and is provy to that sort of information given her being the gatekeeper (bridgekeeper) to Old Hell. She's the Kutaka of Old Hell.';

'undefined';

'>>46720585
We would run into the One Piece problem if ZUN did like you said: Too many characters, too little screentime
This is the best way to give all character screentime without bloating it, otherwise every chapter will be each page showing wtf a 2hu is doing and next page is a different 2hu doing some different thing elsewhere. It would be impossible to follow';

'>>46720902
>too little screentime
Meanwhile, fully half of this chapter is taken up by Yamame and Parsee doing nothing of consequence.';

'>>46720910
Parsee's hips and elven ear pussies are VERY important.';

'I really, really like how her wings are drawn. They're so big.';

'>>46720910
It's called exposition and showing off Yam's fat ass anon. Parsley explained some things about the lockdown and showed a little bit about herself, she's not a seething bridge troll. Most importantly, they showed us how cute they are.
>>46720955
Same, her wings are cool and look fluffy. The little defects and bits of damage on the feathers is also a nice touch. In contrast to the other girls, I really like how Okuu's outfit looks in this, and a ponytail surprisingly fits with her pretty well. Though her concrete foot being an armored boot is a little iffy, it makes sense since she could take it on and off as a piece of apparel, but the elephant's foot is irreplaceable iconography. And Koishi's vest missing the diamond buttons makes it look empty, at least mr hat looks good.';

'>>46720910
Ok how about like 20 characters doing nothing of substance every chapter?';

'>>46719908
This chapter felt a bit strange to read even if I liked it. Is my memory messed up or did Koishi feel completely out of character compared to the previous games? I always remember her dialogue sounding a little loopy and spaced-out like she had no real interest in doing much of anything aside from satisfying her own curiosities.

But here she's apparently not only competent enough to handle Hell on her in place of Satori but actually seems relatively normal, with none of her usual weird dialogue I remember from the games. Granted it's been just one chapter so maybe it's too soon to give a good judgement.';

'>>46721005
>Parsley explained some things about the lockdown
Most if not all of which we'd already heard from Kanako and Yuugi.';

'>>46721040
her fightan appearances were already out of character to her SA appearance, so we're really just going back to that';

'>>46721040
Tbh you can chalk it up as Satori being important to her, so she subconsciously become serious because "Big sister need me to do this"
Also she can hold a conversation well enough in SA';

'>>46721041
Show vs tell.
Kanako only closed off the geyser center with a sign and it was Orin who mentioned that the geyser center was the last passage to Old Hell to be closed off. Same with Yuugi, she just says Old Hell is closed off and talks about how that's going to be a problem, and we also learn more about Yuugi and Mizuchi's characters there. There's no details being explained in either of those. Being told the underground is sealed is one thing, it's another to being shown that even unknown and secret passages are completely filled in as well. This chapter showed that the underground is completely and thoroughly closed off and air tight, and that there's an old contingency in place to do this that Parsee is privy to. It also goes to show that Mizuchi is unknown in the underground, even to important people, as Parsee doubts her abilities and thought she knew all the spirits down there. Old Hell is locked down and very few know why. It's not as plot significant as Yuugi teaming with Mizuchi, but it's still detail in how things work in an often passed over part in Touhou.';

'>>46721140
Parsee also seems to have some further idea of what's going on that she isn't sharing, because Yamame tells her that she's the one who dug the tunnel that they're in and thus one of the only ones who should know about it, yet it's also been sealed off, and Parsee seems like she's about to speculate on it, then abruptly changes her mind and tells Yamame off for digging without telling anyone';

'>>46721140
>Show vs tell.
And what Parsee did was...?';

'>>46721155
The sudden realization face. It's big enough that she wouldn't let a regular denizen like Yamame know.';

'>>46721177
I'm guessing Parsee knows that the lockdown's real purpose is to let a certain miko break into Old Hell, rather than to keep her out. If the passages were all closed from the outside, that means it's a perfect way to determine Reimu's next plan of action and from what direction, so contingencies are probably in effect anticipating Reimu's arrival to push her into Old Hell while also keeping Mizuchi trapped and corralled to some specific location within Old Hell. Basically, lead the cat to the mouse without letting either go free.';

'I like how they feel friendly but not really in a shipping way';

'>>46721232
Two gals that likely aren't more than acquaintances on day-to-day basis, but are brought together by the circumstances for an adventure to be fondly recalled years later during the next chance encounter over sake.';

'>>46683411

Impossible as she'd know your intentions';

'>>46721232
The shippers tend to ruin a lot of character relations.';

'>>46720540
You know with how much shit people give Kasen for snuffing one spirit, how are they going to react to Okuu bombing a whole crowd of protesting spirits and following up with going postal on the rest with Koishi?';

'>>46721566
Police brutality.
But people still won't give as much a shit about it because it's not Kasen or Byakuren.';

'>>46721566
In Okuu's case, it's not hypocritical. She has always had genocidal tendencies, all the way back in SA.';

'>>46721578
It's okay when cute air-headed girls do it, but it's suddenly a warcrime if ancient old hags do it. I'm onto their double standards.';

'>>46721566
I'm pretty sure it doesn't kill them. Mizuchi's been very clear about how youkai can't fight a vengeful spirit, so Okuu's probably just knocking them around until they get over their current anger and go back to milling around.';

'>>46721591
She literally nuked them and Koishi made it clear she's killing them.';

'how the fuck you kill a ghost you bastards';

'>>46721595
that's like saying that reimu killed sakuya because remi said she did in EoSD, it's just edgy dialogue because the characters love doing that
Kasen can only kill them because she's cheating and using special powers of her own to do it';

'>>46721603
Tell that to Kasen, Okuu, or maybe Koishi.';

'>>46721566
Rubber explosion.
Rubber knife.';

'>>46721604
Sakuya actually died that day and all subsequent depictions of her in canon are delusions of guilt-ridden Reimu';

'>>46721616
>Rubber explosion';

'>>46721604
Literally >>46721616';

'>>46721589
This is slander.
Okuu is a little smooth in the brain and misunderstood what Kanako told her to do with her new power, a power which she needed an outlet for. That's why she was trying to turn the surface into the sun. She's just wants to make her family happy and thought that's what they wanted. It was obviously not normal for her to do that and Orin made the spirits spill onto the surface so someone could come help her and calm Okuu down.';

'>>46721728
>and thought
Not canon. Okuu doesn't have enough brain cells to think.';

'>>46721566
Utsuho and Koishi are retards, so nobody really has any expectations from them.
Now, as for Satori, who put them into that position...';

'>>46721740
Wrong. She can think, but thinking and remembering is hard.
Read the SA omake. See, Marisa asks Okuu what she thinks in context of the incident, to which Okuu replies with "Unyu?" and then explains after further prompting. This clearly shows that Utsuho has at least one thought in her head at a time, ergo, she thinks. She may be a retard, but she's a precious retard.';

'>>46721746
Aby problem?';

'>>46721780
Shut up Satori, you can't even speak english.';

'>>46721208
A throwback to the last few chapter where Satori said she was going to let Mizuchi grudge disappear by itself eventually by quarantine her under Former Hell IF POSSIBLE
It seem like according to Satori, Mizuchi is a special case where the only way to deal with her is to let the protagonist end her existence forever';

'>>46721566
Everyone give Kasen shit for it because she literally just randomly grab vengeful spirit and crush them, she have no reason to do so';

'>>46719933
Sort of Cheating detective was pretty cute but I like Fuantei's Koishi more.
Hirasaka's is pretty cute though.';

'>>46721472
can she read intentions or just inner monologues? If its the latter any one thinking in a language she doesn't speak would make her ability useless.';

'huh, Nazrin also said Mizuchi was a newcomer';

'>>46722994
So she actually died recently?';

'>>46723021
It seems unlikely since she knows all of Reimu's incidents and has knowledge going back to pre-Gensokyo. It's possible that she keep breaking out of wherever the Ministry of Right and Wrong put her and she's just been transferred to Satori recently
Actually for that matter it could very well have been her plan so she could escape into Gensokyo';

'>>46723045
Wouldn't her knowing of Reimu's incident imply she's recent as she'd have experienced that stuff first hand as a witness?
But otherwise I agree, still it feels a bit off.
I hope we actually get some more information about Mizuchi next chapter.';

'>>46723021
She said, 'Humans lost to Youkai?' the moment she went to the village. She definitely wasn't there for a long time.';

'>>46719933
Ew, they brought the stupid edgy stitched eye fanon into an official work.';

'>>46723198
ZUN is secretly a KKHTA fag confirmed.';

'>>46723198
>>46723207
Zun doesn't exactly direct the artist how to draw you know.';

'>>46723110
Maybe Mizuchi was buried so deeply beneath Old Hell that she only recently became active after Gouyuku Ibun, since her haunt was disturbed by all the oil autism happening at the time? That or Hecatia snuck her into Old Hell as a way to distract everyone on the surface while she retrieved Clappy from Okina or something. Mizuchi really doesn't seem to be a regular in Old Hell. After all,
>These souls so twisted they don't even deserve to reincarnate have been condemned to Hell for all eteternity
Makes it seem like Mizuchi's case waa that she was transferred from Hell to Old Hell, especially since Mizuchi is notably an eternal criminal. Hell, maybe Zanmu herself helped arrange Mizuchi's transfer with Satori? Seems like she's actually more in control over everyday operations down there compared to Hecatia, who is more busy with her giga-brained schemes.';

'>>46723273
Poor fucking Eiki. She is counting the days until Akyuu dies so she can get some relief on workload.
Shit boss making her wear hot topic dresses.
Underfunded and understaffed.
Celestials being drama queens and closing Heaven.
Animal Yakuza and their schemes.
Smelly Oni and her schemes.
Oil Goat.
Everyone in Gensokyo seemingly uses Hell as their playground.
Old Hell Oni can't keep their vengeful spirits under control.';

'>>46723352
If CDS doesn't end with Eiki throwing a massive bitchfit and going PFoV 2 on everyone out of sheer rage, ZUN is a hack. The Ministry needs money and Hell, Animal Hell, and Old Hell haven't been paying their dues.';

'>Koishi and Parsee talking like normal people
It's nice to see';

'>>46723378
> The Ministry needs money
The most important question is what kind of money do they use?';

'>>46723398
Doesn't Komachi throw around wadokaichin? She either gets paid too much or those aren't in circulation anymore. In which case, I can only surmise that the Ministry uses cryptocurrency.';

'undefined';

'>>46681499
This is the peak female form btw';

'>>46681512
That is a bio-robot body';

'16 years of Koishi fanart just got destroyed in my mind. She's not an aloof retard who never has anything in her mind and always has the same expression, instead she's here getting bothered and flustered about spirits invading her sister's place.';

'>>46721746
That's the funny thing, Satori and Rin seem the smarter ones and Okuu and Koishi the more powerful ones, so maybe pairing them in any other way might have been a better idea... Although maybe Okuu and Koishi can't get possessed due to their special conditions.
Or maybe Koishi being "more conscious" is Mizuchi but that would make Satori's decision even weirder
>>46723398
The one other people spend for others when they lived?.... Did the Ministry always have monetary issues or did people spend more for others in the past(according to ZUN)?';

'>>46723593
Her sister and home just takes up that much real estate in her subconscious headspace. Spirits are being bad and causing problems for Satori. No thinking required, just kill them all.';

'>>46723674
it's not like Mizuchi needs to hide right now since she's in hell with Yuugi. though I guess it depends on what Yuugi meant by helping her out';

'>>46723674
that'd be interesting when trying to possess okuu if the yatagarsu could kick out mizuchi';

'>>46723674
>Okuu and Koishi can't get possessed due to their special conditions.
It's probably this, Okuu is already possessed by Yatagarasu due to being his living shrine, as well as being a cyborg of sorts and lobotomized. While Koishi lacks a mind to inhabit, and depending on how her ability works might also obliterate Mizuchi's mind, which due to how spirits and youkai and such work might kill her.';

'>>46723021
"Recently" is a relative anon, those Old Hell inhabitants are ancient';

'new thread?';

'>>46723726
I'd prefer we wait until this one dies.';

'>46723726';

'>>46694062
>>46700413
tenshi is denser than steel?';

'>>46723734
ok
>>46723736
no need to be rude, fella';

'>>46723778
Dense, yes, a retard, no.
She's extremely smart, especially when it comes to hermit stuff due to being a celestial(Deva) and a prodigy, but she's also a ruffian who's unwise and doesn't exactly understand other people very well.';

'>>46723726
We don't need another CDS thread until the next chapter dropped';

'>>46723803
desu she's pretty smart everywhere except AoCF';

'>>46723531
cool boot';

'>>46723273
Did people forgot that Mizuchi is actually pretty well known among surface youkai? They were like “Jailbreak King? Yeah that is an infamous name”';

'>>46723817
She is incredibly strong anon, the fact that Yorigami sister was able to capture her Dream version at all was an impressive feat';

'>>46723593
You gotta love how Koishi tried to be professional
>Keep saying “Big sister” but then correct it into “Satori-sama”
>Tried to be intimidating to silent the spirit but failed
If WaHH was any indication then the vengeful spirit are only scared of Sayori specifically, considering how they don’t dare talking back to her even when she deny their request';

'>>46723593
>destroyed
No, this is a massive improvement. KKHTAtards got annihilated away by this and I am glad for it.
>stitched eye
That doesn't change Koishi in this part, who is conscious of professionalism for trying to hold down the underworld's vengeful ghosts.';

'>>46721616
Rubber vengeful spirits.';

'>>46723352
You know Hecatia isn't actually Eiki's boss, right?
The Ministry of Right and Wrong is run by yama and kishin, and their vision of hell is very different from Hecatia's, whose view on the Ministry is more that she doesn't mind them, since hell accepts all sorts as long as they have the power to back it up.
At most, as a "goddess" of hell, Hecatia would be to Eiki what regular deities are to the human villagers; they get worship and respect, and are considered "above" the ordinary folks and the world is more or less considered "their" domain, but just like how Kanako isn't running the village's baker's business, Hecatia isn't going to give orders to the Yama Kings. She could probably exert influence if she wanted, but it'd be out of character and they'd only go along with it because Hecatia scares the piss out of them.';

'>>46720955
>>46723531
the only complaint I have is her right leg, it's supposed to look like the Elephant's Foot (just like her third leg/right arm is a fuel rod from a nuclear reactor';

'>>46724891
We don't know any of her bosses, so when we want to use an example Hecatia often comes up, besides imagining the powerful freedom loving hot topic god as a rogue executive type is charming.
Eiki can be an embattled subordinate, and Hecatia is taking the reigns of a position she earned through might alone and has an extremely casual relationship with, which conflicts with the super serious Eiki.
It's a pretty good dynamic which can make for drama or comedy.';

'How strong is Koishi actually? She is an Extra Boss';

'>>46725658
Eiki's superiors are firmly established as the ten Yama Kings who reign over the Ministry of Right and Wrong, and while not being shown directly, they're all given names in PMiSS, too, and people who want to use them just draw them as typical big yama dudes.
Meanwhile, Eiki mentions in VFiSb that she has never actually met Hecatia, and only heard of her and how she's supposedly not all that evil, while Hecatia explains the Ministry in AFiEU as basically being a bunch of people who moved into hell and formed an organisation (highly unusual for hell) and tells everyone they're doing it wrong and that they should be rehabilitating sinners or some shit. They're simply not involved with each other at all, and presenting Hecatia as Eiki's boss is even less representative of canon than making Aya Momiji's superior.';

'>>46725900
Not as strong as Marisa or Reimu';

'>>46724661
Ah I know that. I'm just talking about how she acts more like a spoiled brat in that game and nothing else. Even if she's strong.';

'>>46726655
Yeah, but EIki bosses literally aren't shown, we don't know who they are in any practical sense, they're basically just a list of names and we don't know who they are in Touhou, so like Aya and Momiji people gravitate towards the pair being boss and servant, or like Aya and Megumu.';

'>>46727162
And they are wrong to do so.
Eiki has more than enough going on in canon that she doesn't need Hecatia nonsensically inserted as her superior. She's already dealing with lazy and/or birdbrained subordinates, shitty neighboring realms starting trouble, lousy oni starting fights instead of doing their job...
Hell's a really busy place in Touhou canon, even if it's kinda treated like a footnote most of the time. There's no need to make Hecatia act out-of-character and integrate her into an existing structure when there's much more potential for interesting conflicts and character interactions the way things are already.';

'>>46728832
I like it best when she Heca is in character, but still part of the ministry for some reason.
It's pretty funny.';

'>>46727162
Funny because we actually do have the 4 Kishin name based on the Water Kishin who hunted Seiga
So at the very least we know a bit about who is in the upper hierarchy of Hell';

'>>46728832
>There's no need to make Hecatia act out-of-character and integrate her into an existing structure when there's much more potential for interesting conflicts and character interactions the way things are already.
Of course, however that's giving secondary pandering artists too much credit as they only know how to utilize characters in ways that best feeds their bottom line.';

'>>46729486
Granted, but that doesn't mean we should be doing the same here.
Hecatia already suffers enough from how the red one is treated as the default and her main gimmick barely being used. Pushing her into an organization whose goals are completely at odds with her is just going too far.

I really wish more artists would take a page from Hirasaka's book and use Earth Hecatia when she's in Gensokyo, at least. She should be the one going there, after all.';