'>>61424903

>>>/x/catalog';

'>>61424903
God I miss the Nite Crew. Got me through college';

'>>61424903
Black Projects?';

'>>61424903
No. But it goes like this. Space is indeed an “ether”, call it a higgs field/boson, whatever. It flows, is elastic, and frictionless. Gravity is not a force but the effect of the field flowing towards large groups of particles , which then whirlpool and ultimately displace the field back in time. Light/energy propagates through the field like sound through air. How to influence the ether without gargantuan numbers of particles? Bose-einstein consensates don’t experience time as we know it because the flow of gravity is effectively pulled tight. They can then move through the universe without drag on the ether. Meaning they can travel through the ether faster than light can. It would be like a river of water that travels faster than sound could propagate through it.';

'do you think pooh shiesty and spotemgottem linking up was just by chance?...';

'>>61424903
I have some related screencaps, but there's an anon floating around with the actual links, he'll probably turn up sooner or later.';

'undefined';

'DoEanon here, I’ll drop some stuff when I get home. In the meantime, here’s fun:

https://youtu.be/7F9E6AANBpI?si=DjJI9jsvUru6TDrn';

'I'm a physics brainlet but I'm having a lot of fun asking AI questions about this stuff. The implications are quite interesting.';

'>>61424903
Yes, yes, Lockheed Martin has the Alien tech, this has been known for years';

'>>61426785
Thank you anon';

'>>61425259
So...The Slipstream?';

'>>61425017
>Shabooka shabooka, motherfucker';

'>>61425017
Man I thought he had a tactical pack o' ports';

'>>61426785
Mach’s ideas about inertia are an interesting thought experiment but if the space force actually had this shit they wouldn’t be begging congress for more satellites';

'>>61427093
>The scraping from rambling schizos, deliberate disinfo, frauds, quacks, and plain old morons that the "ai" compiles together with any real scientific study is quite interesting
I too enjoy speculative fiction, the more outlandish the better.';

'Bump';

'People Who Witnessed It/Potential Field Tests
http://www.aliendave.com/Photos_Skywatch_UTTR_72204.html
https://www.tooeleonline.com/articles/news/ufo-hunters-report-strange-lights-at-dugway/
https://youtu.be/4tsn38MHa9c?si=S0R3DeogjEEWz5C5
https://youtu.be/0GeIImbZpCo?si=25PFKyqLz-NTJh0l - Iraq 2005

Fark/ATS Zapper Links
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread637964/pg2
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1066328/pg7
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread901726/pg3
https://m.fark.com/comments/1203844/9725308
https://m.fark.com/comments/1112341/last
https://m.fark.com/comments/1112341/last

Actual Science
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polariton_laser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwinger_limit
https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.94.062102
https://physics.aps.org/articles/v7/s82
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA506546.pdf
https://groups.seas.harvard.edu/haulab/slow_light_project/slow_light_project.htm
https://physics.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/physicsatmit_01_ketterle.pdf
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1083171
https://www.nature.com/articles/35018520
https://www.scribd.com/document/208319/NEC-Time-Travel-Experiment-in-2000
https://www.military.com/defensetech/2004/10/04/usaf-wants-antimatter-weapons
https://www.niac.usra.edu/files/library/meetings/fellows/mar04/Edwards_Kenneth.pdf
>Kenneth Edwards’ Boss, Gerald A. Smith
“Positron Aerospace Propulsion, Dr. Gerald A. Smith, Positronics Research” - DIA Document
>The “Serious TS” guy at USC referred to in the Fark links
https://www.optica.org/History/Biographies/bios/Robert_W_Hellwarth
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/author/37323662400';

'>>61428471
Not necessarily. What if these things are heinously expensive to both build and operate, and are technically fragile enough that a drive failure would result in the entire crew being turned into soup or scattered to the ether in an energetic gamma ray burst.
>>61426963
You know our friend from Fark apparently knows Bearden from working at Redstone, and apparently he thinks he's full of shit. The only good parts in his presentation are about phase conjugation, and apparently he lifted that from a presentation at Kirtland
>>61424957
Something tells me you are the Jannie faggot on this board. All these posts are weapons related because it's a FUCKING WEAPON';

'>>61424903
>fark';

'>>61428591
It's actually not schizo. It functions as an analog to ring singularity, aka Kerr Singularity. Ironically enough, Roy Kerr doesn't believe in black holes as a point singularity and he was at the AFRL in Dayton for a number of years probably doing naughty things to the government.';

'>>61426785
I did turn up. They are here>>61431403
FYI, the /k/ Jannie has a fucking hard-on from Hell about these threads for one reason or another. You can have a 500 post thread shitting on this as /x/ nonsense, but the moment you get some actual discussion this will be 404'd.';

'>>61431557
they get double pay for every /x/ thread, mistakes were made';

'The sound china sea is littered with dormand suicide drones';

'>>61431557
The /k/ jannies seem to have a hard on for anything that isn't a Ukraine thread.';

'>>61428471
>if have nukes, why still make rifles

Shits probably extremely expensive, exotic and difficult. Most likely deployed only for existential threats and used to advance and research more stuff.
Might also have unconventional constraints - like activating it decouples you from solar system and you stay behind being static only against stronger masses, like galaxies requiring stellar energies to keep up or useful for travel only certain paths at specific times.';

'>>61431723
No, I've received the b-word for just a making a general 3 times in the last 7 days. It's definitely this specific thing for one reason or another.';

'You guys might be interested in this.
https://www.aaro.mil/Portals/136/PDFs/UAP_RECORDS_RESEARCH/AARO_DHS_Kona_Blue.pdf?ver=BjOpTzFISPc0LWMw5uAzzw%3d%3d
tl;dr: declassified Department of Homeland Security SAP dealing with disruptive and emerging technologies derived from "advanced aerospace vehicles." Only active from late 2011 to early 2012 when the SAP (actually still a PSAP) got axed.';

'>>61431403
>>61428471
So basically you slow the speed of light within a region, project EM into it and spin the fuck out of it so the EM redshifts(?) into higher energetic forms to the point that the broader structure has some kind of warp field around it that distorts spacetime
Am I reading this right?';

'>>61428471
Satellites are often cover for covert armed space combat missions.';

'>>61433932
this is the one that dumps NIR everywhere right? All the accidents with microwave burns?';

'>>61434259
No idea, sorry.';

'>>61434212
Blueshifts, fren. You're creating essentially an artificial black hole (as retarded as that sounds). It's a ring singularity instead of a "point singularity". Your region of negative energy immunates from the center of ring ala' Casimir Effect. But what the fuck do I know.
>>61434222
Not to mention that all these same concepts apply to diffraction-free optics with metamaterial superlenses.';

'>>61434212
And to elaborate further, FTL is impossible. What IS possible is the manipulation of the relative permeability and permittivity of the vacuum in your local region of space to artificially raise or lower c. You can't for faster than light, but you can make light go faster. Pretty sure LiJun Wang's paper from Nature is in my links.';

'>>61425259
Intriguing post';

'>>61434556
It's a lot like Superfluid Vacuum Theory. The analogy mentioned has more than a tangential relationship to experiments with sonic black holes, which I imagine was intended';

'>>61431599
Don't be a homo, there is literally nothing /x/ related ITT. I can't tell if you're being factitious or not, but I'll assume you are. This is all very real, or at least the polariton driven laser portion of it is. And if that is indeed real, the possibility that this indeed real are extraordinarily high. You can shit on these links all you want, but there is actual science to back it up. Also, this was before LARPs on the Internet was a thing. And if it is a LARP, it's the worst one in existence because there is zero engagement.';

'>>61434665
>this was before LARPs on the Internet was a thing
Do tell.';

'>>61434689
The links are from 2004, or at least as far as Fark goes. If you're old enough to remember, internet access was still a fairly high bar to entry in 2004. This was before the iPhone was a thing. Who the fuck would you be trying to catch in your LARP in 2004, anon?';

'https://warosu.org/sci/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Phase+Conjugation+
A these on /sci/ that went 'there'';

'>>61434689
I can't imagine someone larping about a polariton driven gamma ray laser in 2004. What would be the point?';

'So the TL;DR of all this, because I am frankly far too stupid to understand the physics involved with any of the technobabble, is that we have the foundations for making wicked cool space warships and that I might just live to see it? The FTL but not technical faster than light stuff especially is really fucking cool.';

'>>61434811
>no LARPing online in 2004
My man, you clearly weren't on IRC at the time.';

'>>61431557
>why would you ban spam?';

'>be me
>getting into psychoanalysis and philosophy concerning consciousness
>learn about things like informational monism
>possibility that consciousness if the core fundamental aspect to all of reality and that material and physical things come from it rather than the other way around like what materialists believe
>think to myself "that sounds like the warp from 40k
>get hit with immediate dread, "what if the warp is real?"
>what if the reason why governments hide black projects that can do things like FTL travel is because they don't work by having some "warp drive" but instead work through blood sacrifices and manipulating conscious reality in order to achieve it?

spoopy';

'>>61435271
>is that we have the foundations for making wicked cool space warships
Anon, if those posts are anything to go by - and they line up hilariously well with ancillary evidence - we ALREADY HAVE wicked cool space warships but nobody is allowed to know about them because [REDACTED].
>and that I might just live to see it?
That's the rub. The rules would have to change in order for the information about them to go public, and there are some seriously nasty forces invested in that information never getting out. It's not hopeless, just enormously frustrating to watch.';

'>>61434811
>Who the fuck would you be trying to catch in your LARP in 2004, anon?
>>61435121
>I can't imagine someone larping about a polariton driven gamma ray laser in 2004. What would be the point?

I see, you are just trolling.';

'>>61434811
I had Optimum cable internet back in 2004, what the fuck are you talking about?';

'>>61431446
>You know our friend from Fark apparently knows Bearden from working at Redstone, and apparently he thinks he's full of shit. The only good parts in his presentation are about phase conjugation, and apparently he lifted that from a presentation at Kirtland
That presentation certainly has its moments of pure wank, but I distinctly remember Mr. Bedlam mentioning that a solid understanding of quaternions was integral to the math of how the rotating BEC drive works. 3 blue 1 brown has a decent intro to them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjMuIxRvygQ';

'>>61425017

>posts niggas from Africa and not actually from the projects';

'>>61435434
I would assume that the only time they'd ever reveal this kind of info to the general public is if there is a legitimately existential threat to the US hegemony. Something beyond the usual saber rattling Russia-China et al get up to. The kind of thing you bust out that makes the reveal of the atom bomb to the world look like we're just setting off firecrackers.';

'>>61426785
Don't tell me this just some lame electric universe crap';

'>>61435807
>is if there is a legitimately existential threat to the US hegemony
Not even then, as I understand it. The rules in place surrounding this stuff transcend mere national sovereignty. Even if the US were to splinter into multiple nation-states and sections were to fall under extranational control, the tech and projects would just get slurped up by everyone else and stay secret. It's hapened before - see the USSR for details. One of the more interesting bits of corroborating evidence to these posts is the price history of cesium. Go take a look at it and note what happens when the Soviet Union breaks. The only way it's getting out is if a massive and systemic shift in certain underlying factors were to occur. It's hard to be concrete about this stuff for many reasons, both obvious and not, which makes it a gigantic pain to predict how things are going to shake out.';

'>>61435576
My nigga Dwayne lived there, he wanted to be a police officer.';

'>>61435928
I bet he's seen some shit';

'>>61434503
Mind bogglin'';

'>>61434503
>cant go fater than light
>Just make light go faster than it usually does to work around this
Fucking troll physics but real';

'>>61435428
Can you troll the noosphere anon? What if we just spammed massive titties in the warp, would tits get bigger in the material plane?';

'>>61426785
I wonder how this affects time dilation. I wonder how that would affect computation. Still probably would not be able to crack crypto due to limited energy?';

'>>61434489
Can a human see the sun if they're floating in space without any space suit/camera etc';

'>>61435919
So either the technologies involved are so dangerous they could easily wipe out the human race or there is an extranational group of people intent on keeping this technology for themselves so if SHTF for them they can never be taken out completely, is that right?';

'>>61435919
I guarantee you it's "the world's most effective pulse compressor" aspect of it that will keep it in the bag forever, or at least until the Chinese reach parity with our capabilities.
>>61435409
Niggers on here have been asking for a general, so I fucking made one. And it wasn't for spam, it was for off-topic posts, which is hilariously retarded because it's a weapon.';

'THE COLLINS ELITE
TETHER BASED MARAUDER TECH
ORBITAL ICE CREAM FACTORIES(STEALTH)';

'>>61435428
Retards shouldn't read philosophy.';

'>>61434811
>If you're old enough to remember, internet access was still a fairly high bar to entry in 2004.
>10 years after the eternal september
...Anon';

'>>61425439
No, it was planned long before they even got in contact';

'>>61436603
Bit of both. They're playing with some really high-energy stuff in [REDACTED]. The extranational thing... well, I'm not prepared to comment on who they are and why they're doing it, mostly because you wouldn't believe me. Short version, they have rules in place for this stuff, some of which are for *very* good reasons.
>>61436670
Dude there's so damned much secret tech that they're not allowed to talk about. It's like, there's a list of allowed tech and a big long list of things that they have to pretend are science fiction rather than science fact.';

'>>61436603
the latter.';

'>>61438711
>I'm not prepared to comment on who they are and why they're doing it
just spit it out faggot. god.';

'>>61438721
Yup, you got it.';

'>>61438711
I would imagine attempts to harvest power directly from the vacuum are frowned upon. Arthur C. Clarke had a good comment regarding some extrasolar gamma ray bursts might be accidents while attempting this very thing. It think it was in the appendix of 3001.';

'>>61436711
Most of philosophy is retarded.';

'>>61436040
No, but the daemons crawling and wriggling from the warp rift in Ukraine might be made of mawed tiddies.';

'>>61439898
Just admit you got filtered instead of posting dumb shit.';

'>>61434503
I do wonder how Einstein would have reacted to the information that c is flexible. Probably would have given the poor boy an aneurysm.';

'>>61435434
>nobody is allowed to know about them because [REDACTED].
I once heard a story about a F117 pilot who asked the base personnel where he was stationed what they thought about extraterrestrial craft and he got told he didn't have a high enough clearance to ask those kinds of questions.';

'>>61435919
>the price history of cesium
Holy fuck.';

'>>61440334
You sound like a faggot who reads Kant.';

'>>61441754
Your first thought when reading about monism was to compare it to fucking 40k. I have nothing more to say to you.';

'>>61441760
Where do the forms come from?';

'>>61441486
Most likely he knew and wasn't allowed to talk about it. He knew the rules.
>>61441577
Yeah man. The more you dig, the more everything lines up. One of the big issues with getting to the bottom of this stuff is seperating truth from falsehood - and the disinfo guys working John Q. Public have done a bang-up job in that regard. It's absolutely infuriating.';

'>>61441855
>and the disinfo guys working John Q. Public have done a bang-up job in that regard. It's absolutely infuriating.

Is this a reference to Steven Greer?';

'>>61438711
You underestimate what I'll believe blindly';

'>>61441855
they always fucking poison the well when something with questionable ethics or safety comes up.

Take for example the most recent example, which was the COVID-19 vaccine which was incredibly new and developed in a rapid period of time with very little clinical trials or review.
Now people were initially skeptical, I asked my practitioner about it and he was god awful about answering any of my questions on its safety or efficacy cause he probably didn’t know. Pretty much called me the “downfall of society” and I haven’t visited him since.

I was contemplating on taking it, but when it started getting increasingly more forced, news articles pumping out with an “us v them” mentality, and people otherwise resorting to retarded insults like “anti-vaxxer” when people were fine with well established and researched/clinical trialed vaccines like polio and diptheria and smallpox but were skeptical about something made in a incredibly short period of time with little oversight or review and tested on mice.

Anyway gay story time aside, fuck federal agents and healthcare organizations for poisoning the well and making any form of legitimate debate about policy and effectiveness/safety impossible because of the “muh anti-vaxxer” garbage.';

'>>61442997
Nope. Just an admission that decades (centuries) (millenia) of disinfo and coverups have muddied the waters to the point where trying to find the truth is almost an exercise in futility. Which is why little nuggets like these fark posts are a gift from God. I don't understand why they haven't been purged yet - my guess is that they either don't believe anyone will actually buy it, or they actively want to encourage people barking up these trees so they can catch them. It's really only barely enough to get a tiny peak under the blankets, but with a bit of clever extrapolation, you can take the logic to some srs bsns conclusions - the kind that get you on interstellar watch lists.
>>61443237
The basic problem is that it very quickly devolves into /x/-tier bullshit. Like, as I understand it, literally the issue is that we're the backwards primitives that the Prime Directive from Star Trek applies to. There's an interstellar society out there ensuring that nobody tells us the real truth. They do this for shits and giggles - our planet is essentially a contained playground.

It only gets weirder and more convoluted from there.';

'>>61443498
kek';

'>>61436603
You neglected the balance of power. If the US comes out and says "oh btw we kept working on MARAUDER after 1995 and by now we've figured out how to make nuclear-powered plasma railguns in a package small enough to put into orbit :^)" then that's a tacit admission to being able to smite anything, anywhere on earth in about as much time as it takes to make a phone call. The same goes for projects that don't have such acute military applications, either. If you declassify, say, cold fusion technology, then you basically destroy the global energy sector - and thus the global economy - overnight. There's also the opposite of the bottom falling out of markets, which is a controlling interest in rare ingredients instantly becoming strategic and priceless and therefore worth going to war over. If the secret sauce to flying saucers turns out to be Rhodium then South Africa instantly becomes the most valuable place on earth.';

'>>61436701
>TETHER BASED MARAUDER TECH

plasma torus generated by tether and steered by laser beams';

'>>61444265
I mean hell even the 'theoretically and practically possible' stuff would be pretty big if we learned it actually works. Shit like the instantaneous transmission of data via string theory fuckery to connect atoms at long distances, it's basically an ansible.';

'>>61425259
Until you can back it up with math its all conjecture though.';

'>>61444721
NTA, but it sounds a lot like he is describing superfluid vacuum theory.';

'>>61443857
I kinda figured this was an ethereal soul prison, a physical prison planet guarded by meat aliens is far less schizo';

'>>61443857
The further you look into it the more you realize that
>the interstellar society is the hybridized beings created by fallen angels millennia ago
>their goal is enslavement of the human soul and the supplanting of Homo sapiens as the dominant species on earth
>they know they’re going to lose but are doing it anyway out of spite';

'>>61444721
NTA but ive always wanted to reconcile ek=1/2mv^2 (kinetic energy) with e=mc^2 (relative at rest energy of a particle) to get the key. The idea is that all energy, even heat and light, is kinetic. Remember absolute hot is when particles start vibrating at maximum relativistic speeds before turning into black holes. If you assume the particle is a whirlpool/vortex/toroid/cardioid/whatever of the field, it kind of jives, lets do some vortex velocity math. Using the Pythagorean theorem, for a 90/45/45 degree triangle with sides equal to v/t, the sum of the squares of the two sides is 2v2/t2. So the hypotenuse is equal to the square root of 2 multiplied by v/t. This may be written as 2 to the 1/2 power times v/t, or 2^1/2v/t. So the maximum acceleration would be equal to 2^1/2v/t. Numerically, this would also be the maximum instantaneous velocity (2^1/2v) entering the whirlpool.
Plug 2^1/2v into "v" in Ek = (1/2)mv^2 and it simplifies to,E = mc^2, reconciling relative energy with kinetic energy, since all energy is kinetic.';

'>>61444265
I don't think this is orbital. It appears to be too technically fragile to be orbital. It would require multiple lasers to cool and engineer the medium in some sort of multi-wave mixing scheme using probably 4 separate lasers. Even if you were using a solid non-linear crystal like barium titanite of the myriad of other candidates, you would still need multiple lasers. Something has to power them. All of the preceding leans towards a ground station. The whole deal of engineering the ionosphere to propagate the beam to a conjugate point seems relatively plausible. You can definitely facilitate that via satellite. There could be a very small possibility that it is orbital, but I only say that because BEAR was a thing towards the end of SDI before it morphed into the MDA.';

'>>61445695
Whatever MARAUDER was it probably didn't get put into space, doesn't really fit the descriptions of the zapper and phase conjugation. Now how the zapper itself is powered is a very interesting question that I don't think ever gets answered in the Fark threads.';

'>>61445513
schizopost';

'>>61444265
>If you declassify, say, cold fusion technology, then you basically destroy the global energy sector - and thus the global economy - overnight.

No you don't. Christ what a stupid post.

Even assuming that fusion tech was dirt cheap, easy to produce, and the size of an internal combustion engine, it would not tank the world economy.';

'>>61446014
If anything, it would lead to a new economic golden age if something like cold fusion or even regular fusion proved to be economically viable at scale. I am of the mindset that at least some of this technology was in the process of commercialization in the 90's and very early 2000's, then a full power test of the Zapper occurred in 2004 and back into the bag everything went in perpetuity. If anyone remembers, black hole analogues, metamaterial superlenses/invisibility, and BECs were supposed to revolutionize a whole host industries. They were even all over the regular news for a long time. Then the SF Chronicle got ahold of Edward's NIAC PDF and published it, and everything vanished from the news cycle right along with it. Even Edwards told the Chronicle "please top asking me about this, the Air Force is up my ass because of you fucks".';

'>>61446128
NIAC PDF?';

'>>61424903
You’re not going to find any smoking gun on the internet, or anywhere really when it comes to this sort of stuff. Anything that isn’t complete bullshit will have only bits of truth in it. Even if there would be an honest whistleblower, they would be fed some false information as a precaution against such occurrences.';

'>>61443857';

'>>61445452';

'>>61435428
That would certainly explain the absurd amount of paranormal events reported around the globe yearly, even from people who were lifelong skeptical atheists.';

'>>61443498
So now that the vaccine has been established to have no real negative effects you're going to get it now, right?

And there's no way that your continued 'neutral' stance is in no way cover for more antivax hyperbole?';

'>>61448905
>So now that the vaccine has been established to have no real negative effects you're going to get it now, right?
But that is false, you fucking retard.';

'>>61448915
>>61448905
>>61448849
>>61445452
>>61445321
the derailing has already started I see';

'>>61448938
Here you go, you faggot
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10157009/';

'>>61425017
"I've had it with these motherfucking Boers on this motherfucking farm!"';

'>>61428452
Topkek';

'>>61449034
Tell me, what do vaccines have to do with this thread? OP asked about potential leaks/rumors regarding black projects. How is shifting the topic to anti vaccine discourse not derailing?';

'>>61424903';

'>>61447332
Yes
https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Air-Force-pursuing-antimatter-weapons-Program-2689674.php';

'>>61449103
It doesn't, which is why I had 3 Zapper Generals 404'd with the 4th resulting in a ban. I have since appealed the ban, but was then banned again for 'off topic posting'. I dunno if this is coincidence of what, but I can say this...this is one of only a handful of places this information exists on the internet, and one of two places where there is meaningful discussion.';

'>>61444712
It's funny you mentioned this exact thing, because...
https://groups.seas.harvard.edu/haulab/slow_light_project/remote_revival/remote_revival.htm
This is one of the crux's of LiJun Wang's paper published in Nature. If you take a laser pulse, convert it to a plasmonic excitation, that can has a vacuum traversal speed multiples the speed of c, and it exits as a "different" light pulse but with the same "information"...did you violate Bell's Theorem?';

'>>61449878
>one of two places where there is meaningful discussion
The other being?
>zapper threads being 404’d
Been there. Even when keeping away from technical details, I’ve had threads regarding gravity manipulation and positronics removed.';

'>>61449878
It's hard to see these threads as a place of serious discussion when there's multiple people talking about intergalactic alien federations and shit in them.';

'>>61424903
Wombies';

'>>61425259
ok, schizo';

'>>61449969
I would say Fark, but there is literally 3 dudes who engage him and he presents that he knows one of them directly. To a lesser extent ATS, but again...it's only a couple dudes and one of them is a bonafide physicist (mbkennel).
>>61449969
Trust me, fren...it's way better than /pol/ here and even probably ATS.
>>61450039
Okay, retard. He's explaining essentially superfluid vacuum theory. Einstein himself believed in "aether" before GR was published. It just became apparent when Quantum Mechanics became a thing. Einstein was a student of Mach, and made a number of public efforts to resolve GR with Mach's Theory of Inertia. It just took John VonNeumann and Kurt Godel to convince him. The whole point of this thread is that the vacuum has a refractive index that can be manipulated, and there is science to back that up, bitch.';

'>>61428591
>Doesn't have anything to say
>Must speak';

'>>61428591
I took enjoy speculation, ONI/DIA/AFOSI anon.';

'>>61450080
>aether
The issue is, people still latch onto the old-time concept of it.
My hint for you is: consider an ideal FCC crystal and go from there. Use quaternion description. With enough perseverance, you’ll see wonders beyond your furthest dreams.';

'>>61450236
I work large loss insurance claims for a commercial roofer, anon. I can't do a quaternion to save my life. Concepts, however, I am excellent with. Is a more apt description is that a photon is the manifestation of energy exchanges between virtual particle pairs in a superfluid, superconducting quantum vacuum?';

'>>61450236
To add, pretend like I've been playing golf since 1:30, drank 9 beers whilst playing, and am at home making artichokes and steak for dinner while drinking more.';

'>>61450272
>is more apt…
No.
I don’t think I’m comfortable with more than dropping hints like these, really. I can’t spell it out for you. There are reasons why certain topics enter the public space in a very limited way, if at all.
I too wish for this glorious knowledge to serve all mankind but seeing how the world is, it would rather be a curse than a blessing. Some people would obviously use any resulting technology to just bring suffering onto fellow men.';

'The artichoke looks delicious, by the way.';

'>>61450355
>>61450366
No one wants you to go to Leavenworth, DoE Anon. Do solids have the same plasmonic deformation as what you see in a an alkaline BEC?
>Gonna put a quail egg on top of this bitch';

'>>61450355
I'm fine with information not making it to the mainstream i just hope Space Forces $20 billion research budget is being used well.';

'>>61450440
You don't get it. This is spread across a whole host of funding apparati.
>SBIR grants to private institutions/universities
>National Science Foundation grants
>DoD direct grants
>DoE direct grants
Fun fact, the Office of Naval Research is a for-profit organization and is completely immune from Congressional oversight because of this. Funny enough, the NSF was established to continue the unlimited budget research post WWII, but the newly minted branches of the Federal Government post 1947 National Security Act couldn't get their shit together, so guess who ran the NSF? The ONI. Guess who funds all the research links I posted...';

'>>61450475
Fuck, ONR.';

'>>61450416
>DoE anon
I’m not him, though we most certainly have met before.
The crystal is not that of any matter, but of space. That’s what I meant. A particular form of aether, which properties spawn all the others.';

'>>61450506
>crystals made of space
I thought the crystals were made out of time or something? Or is that another thing.';

'>>61450355
>Some people would obviously use any resulting technology to just bring suffering onto fellow men.
That's already happening though. At this point, failing to come clean on many of these subjects causes as much - if not more - suffering than keeping them secret. I get that it's probably not your call, and you can't comment on what's happening behind closed doors, but there's going to be a breaking point, if we haven't already hit it.';

'>>61450440
>budget is being used well
As everywhere, some people will take more than is theirs to have. But apart from that classic inefficiency of governmental spending, I wouldn’t worry about it. It’s all quite fine.
>>61450475
That’s not me, as if any confusion might arise.';

'>>61450506
Are you the Pollack? I bet you are.';

'>>61450520
>crystals made of space
The other way round ;)
I guess it’s not a crystal in a normal sense but most assumptions / mathematical description apply / applies, thus the term.';

'What are the odds these threads are monitored by Them®?';

'>>61450532
So you're not the Pollack? I know he is here, lurking in the Polish shadows.';

'>>61450592
100%.';

'>>61450621
Whatever, I'm just a regular dude. What can they do to a regular non-NDA'd dude?
>A regular fucking hammered dude that has a decidedly non-weapons related artichoke and baked potato with a delicious steak and chimichurri';

'>>61450099

>>61450648
There are thousands of random civilians and independent researchers both in and outside of modern academia that know a LOT of shit that they don't want people to know (in every single modern academic field as well, all of which runs counter to every mainstream narrative put out in each field). But at this point it has reached saturation potentiality, in which that info will never be fully suppressed or controlled at this point. Be thankful for the guys at the forefront that started putting stuff out (some over 100 years ago) and still or are already got offed or into early retirement, as the stuff they've been putting out has survived and grown.';

'>>61450674
Tom Bearden is a faggot that stole some shit from a presentation at Kirtland and was good enough at math to pass his bullshit off until the DoD caught wind. As far as "saturation", this the only present day place where this information is discussed. I have an almost to food, however. Which is amazing because I have drank a lot of beer.';

'>>61450711
Bearden never claimed to have invented any of it, he simply researched it both inside and outside of the military as he had experienced it first hand. It's on youtube, and in academic journals going back to the 1920s and in conceptualization even earlier. 4chan is and has been compromised but still bring out discussion occasionally but now with heavy and obvious counter narrative from intelligence and invested agencies and organizations.';

'>>61450722
No, Bearden was a (eventual) nutter who was exposed to some of this from this time at Redstone Arsenal. There is a reason why Space Force wanted to move it's HQ to Huntsville instead of COS, despite COS and Denver metro being glownigger central.
>Too drunk to crack 3 quail eggs. FYI, they are a motherfucker to crack';

'>>61450761
From what I know of Bearden all his patents are more related to super metaphysical concepts relating to both EMF and human consciousness, and some of them are related to other concepts. His work in researching (old) and visually observable abnormal weather patterns and the role of radar and EMF systems is something he has never claimed was his own. In some of his docs he even mentions a friend of his that knew more about it, Bearden was simply the presentation guy or the psyop guy (by blaming the soviets and not the super obvious line of radar and EMF systems around the US-Canada border region and elsewhere which could point their arrays both over the entire US or the USSR). The stuff he actually presented is entirely or mostly real and confirmable.';

'>>61446128
Isn't the idea that it could solve all the world's problems, and arm everyone with highly destructive capabilities. How can this be resolved in a freedom hating world?';

'>>61450236
I’m guessing you’re describing something like this? I don’t know Jack shit about material science but I know a good but of math
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/372908719_Quaternion_Quantum_Mechanics_Unraveling_the_Mysteries_of_Gravity_and_Quantum_Mechanics_within_the_Planck-Kleinert_Crystal';

'>>61450781
No, this is retarded anon. You want to talk about patents, okay. Wolfgang Ketterle and team from NIST/UC Boulder won a Nobel Prize in the 90's for this work. Lene Hau and Zachary Dutton expounded further upon their work. If you know anything about this particular field of study, there is a metric fuckton of commercial patent applications. Yet, there is none besides the EIT trap used in the experiments. And that isn't even from Ketterle or Hau, it's held jointly by Harvard and MIT as institutions. This is a literal gold mine of commercial patent applications, yet non exist.
https://patents.google.com/?q=(wolfgang)&inventor=Ketterle%2c&patents=false&oq=Ketterle%2c+wolfgang
https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Hau%2c+lene&patents=false&oq=Hau%2c+lene
https://patents.google.com/?q=(Dutton%2c+Zachary)&patents=false&oq=Dutton%2c+Zachary+
Keep in mind, Zachary Dutton was employed by Raytheon during his graduate work at Harvard with Hau, and Hau herself was.granted some defense research fellowship after her published work in "ultra compressing light pulse" in BEC.';

'>>61450905
I'm not sure what you're even trying to criticize at this point. All the stuff you are mentioning is not directly related to the exact type of concepts and working systems Bearden brought out, again he didn't invent them. The earliest work on them is from Weimar Germany, and the earliest conceptualization of them is from Imperial Germany (before 1910). Most US patents and institutions are deriving their work from much earlier work from other researchers and scientists, and most US institutions are widely run by intelligence and other invested organizations. You can even see the radar derived microwave pulses on some civilian detection systems and then immediately after you see a new low pressure zone develop there or some abnormal weather occur (tornadoes, flash fires, flash flooding, and so on).';

'>>61450952
Buddy, if you're attempting to link these UFOs to Nazi bullshit, you're barking up the wrong tree. As far as weather detection goes, that's literally my business, so I know lot a lot about standard Doppler and Nexrad radar because I work with a forensic meteorologist. Bearden is a fag who was excellent at math. There is no civilian radar in the continental United States that is capable of these energy levels. I know this because it's literally part of my job to track the weather';

'>>61438711
It's the UN? Don't tell me its the UN...';

'>>61451040
No I am not. Are you a part of the invested organizations and institutions? You seem like it at this point. You're linking them, dodging the subject matter entirely, and resorting to ad hominems by making up premises that were never discussed. Go look up the rotational mode transition energy frequency of water molecules suspended in atmosphere, now look up the frequency range of microwaves and that long range radar arrays can operate on. They can literally bounce a microwave pulse off another arrays pulse or the earth's atmosphere and inject a massive pulse of heat into a large area from thousands of miles away, (ie, application for controlled weather modification).

It also just so happens a lot of the groundbreaking work and conceptualization into these topics and most EMF research comes from Europe before WW2, and the applications of them occurred just before or during WW2.';

'>>61451066
Nigger, I told you I do large loss commercial insurance claims. This bear needs ID's and flags. I will not disagree with you that the bulk of the theoretical work occured directly post WWII. I would even go as far as to say the genesis of what we know as the federal government was created to protect UFO science because the Soviets were known to be balls deep in our nuclear weapons program. Ironically, one the principals for the Soviet nuclear weapons program is potentially responsible for a large portion of this (Yakov Zel'dovich).';

'>>61451040
>>61451066
You two nerds just need to double team the smelly office girl that is kinda weird and doesn't shave her cooch.';

'>>61451149
Take your all fields faggotry and fuck off to another board
>Weapons related, bitch';

'>>61451119
I suggest you research EMF and vibrational phenomena, I won't go to deep but essentially everything you can observe and even cannot observe is a vibrational wave form. Also look into how two EMF waves in phase with each other can double the amplitude of the combined waveform, and how a doubling of amplitude for two in phase waves results in a quadrupling of the energy in the system which can propagate itself even despite appearing to have canceled each other out (for example two radar installations well placed and working in conjunction can double their combined total energy output at extremely long range without actually increasing the energy at the transmission source).

EMF and unified vibrational research is the crux of all phenomenal and even theoretical subject matter. It can be applied to and relevant to literally anything.';

'>>61451178
No, I will stick to actual shit, but thanks though. Whether /x/ or /pol/, unironically you should go back';

'>>61451178
>redneck string theory
Miss me with the low rent conspiracy cope. Half of it is dumbed down physics 101 and the other is magical thinking from visibly uneducated brains.';

'>>61451199
What I am discussing is not relevant to x or pol. It is mainstream and fringe academic research that is confirmed by every experiment ever conducted into it.

Some people cannot comprehend that sound, light, radio and all EMF frequency ranges are quite literally the same thing operating at differing rates of frequency. If you tweaked the qualities of certain materials you can make the invisible EMF range visible to humans (of which the human eye operates on an infinitely tiny slice of EMF phenomena), such as IR, UV, X-ray and ultrasound.';

'>>61451205
>conspiracy
It's literally in the mainstream and confirmable in multiple different kinds of tests. The only people that might understand it more than others might be theoretical and optical psychists. All of the guys that work in radio and microwave EMF I debate completely miss the idea that those phenomena are the same thing fundamentally as visual and auditory range EMF in the human body.';

'>>61451225
No, you're discussing gay bullshit that has zero relevance. If you wanted to talk about actual metamaterials, maybe. However, you insist on gay bullshit. Tom Bearden is a fraud that is excellent at math and was maybe read into something he wasn't supposed to before the DoD had and ability and/or will to verify academic backgrounds.';

'>>61451251
You seem to be specifically focusing in on Bearden and not any of the actual physics and math says about what he discussed (and never claimed to have discovered himself). Physical materials have nodal vibrational attributes and aspects, meaning physical phenomena is directly relatable to both electrical and EMF phenomena. And the applications therein are relevant to literally any field of mainstream science, including biology.';

'>>61451268
Because you picked the one person that is absolutely full of shit, anon. Unironically back to /x/ you go';

'>>61451288
Show what he says is bullshit. I just explained that two waveforms in phase with each other can double the amplitude of the combined waveform while dissipated part of its component and that a doubling in amplitude results in a quadrupling of the total energy available in the system, with no additional energy input from the transmitters. It's literally vibrational harmonics science but applied to EMF waves, and as I already explained, everything is EMF waves.';

'>>61451237
>abloobloobloo a scientist said waves are real so my 3rd grade tinfoil is too, you have to believe me!
You're definitely living down to the stereotype.';

'>>61451309
You can experimentally observe this with water on a vibrating table on your desk at home, or in a pool in your backyard. Everything is a waveform, I'm not sure what you seem to be so hung up on that.';

'>>61451308
Because even these 4 wave mixing schemes require additional energy input in the form of other fucking lasers. Don't be an /x/ dipshit, anon. You're not getting energy for free, you just improving the efficiency of energy transfer.';

'>>61451322
>Everything is a waveform, I'm not sure what you seem to be so hung up on that.
Wait until you learn about atoms next grade. It'll blow your retarded mind.';

'>>61451324
Laser frequencies were not even mentioned anon. You can do this with water waves at any scale, two in phase wave forms will continue to amplify each other and increase the energy even after the vibrators have been turned off. This is because the waves in a closed system will continue to reflect back into each other until modified, in earth gravity this means the water waves will eventually equalize and cancel out, but not after first doubling their amplitude and quadrupling their potential energy.';

'>>61448905
So basically I'm just gonna not take the vaccine
I Know..... UGH I know... It's just that I'm not gonna take it is all
HAHAHAHAHRHAHAHA HARAHARHARH.';

'>>61451336
>atoms
Atoms are subject to the same vibrational phenomena I am talking about. You can go look up official academic papers on rotation energy transitions (resonance) of atoms and their applications in niche physics. You can also look up a potential application in this regard using uranyl moiety ions.';

'>>61451338
Again, no free energy dipshit. What your referring to in this instance is Stimulated Bruillion Scattering, and yet again, you're fucking retarded in the application. It's hard enough to get people here to take this seriously without your retarded well poisoning.';

'>>61451351
>Ooooooo....in gonna VIBRATTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEE
Are you accident or willfully retarded?';

'>>61451361
Again, show me where I have said anything about free energy. Again this is observable physics. Modern schools teach some good stuff but they also to neglect to consider the system as a whole and its gestalt. The universe is almost certainly a closed system. Meaning you are not creating any new energy, you are using the energy already available in the system to take advantage of waveform physics.';

'>>61451351
oooooooo I'm aligning my chakras! attune your mental vibrations with muh mediation bowl (only 99.99 with subscriber discount) to optimize your Tom Bearden psycholevels and become invulnerable to Soviet scalar mindweapons!';

'>>61451367
You are not contributing any valid counter points or academic discussions in this debate anymore and it cannot be characterized as a debate at this point even. Everything I have mentioned can be confirmed by you yourself and anyone else as they see fit to. We live in a soup of vibrating phenomena. You can experimentally observe this directly.';

'>>61451377
See >>61451375

Just admit defeat or discuss the actual physics and phenomena, otherwise you are a butthurt or dedicated shill.';

'>>61451371
>two in phase wave forms will continue to amplify each other and increase the energy even after the vibrators have been turned off
Right here, dumbass.
>After it is tuned off
Think slowly and carefully before you reply. If you want to suck Tom Bearden's dick, you can always fuck off to ATS or GLP';

'>>61451371
Nobody's saying you're smart enough to shill free energy anon. That's a couple levels above you. You need to graduate from unenlightened psychoscience and embrace the teachings of the fifth small nation (I promise it's not Israel, goy!) to understand manipulation of closed systems' scalar waveform physics.';

'>>61451379
Meant to quote the posts the other way around.';

'>>61451379
There is no physical argument involved. This is the equivalent of a 4 four old saying 'but daddy, quantum!' to rationalize their absence of object permanence.';

'>>61451384
>>61451382
Again, you can observe this directly. You are fundamentally errored in you understanding of reality if you continue to follow a model that disregards observable phenomena, meaning you are what you accuse me of being. We live in a closed system, energy does not scale linearly with transmission in a closed system full of static potentials. Modern academia is usually fundamentally flawed in the assumptions of constants and constraints.';

'>>61451388
Are you a shill, or just willfully retarded? My guess is the later.
>But muh waveforms
You have no idea wtf you are talking about';

'>>61451388
There is no refutation to anything I have said. And again you can go out and look this up for yourself. Your understanding of reality is fundamentally flawed if you consider the universe an open system or do not consider its constraints and the implications of that. Two waves will continue to amplify each other at the rate that was input in a closed system until modified by an additional phenomena, and the amplification does not scale based solely on input from transmission source, as the entire system is energy potentials as well.';

'>>61451395
Smoke more weed. I recommend a Hubbard Electrometer to actualize your understanding of scalar potentials. You may find E-meter auditing elevates you to a preclear state capable of discourse.';

'>>61451398
You quoted the wrong person. And also still have not refuted anything I have discussed. There is no creation of new energy, there is amplification from existing energy.';

'>>61451398
>>61451409
You're on the same page. One of the governing laws of auditing is that you don't run unreading items. And you don't run unreading flows. Auditing is aimed at reactivity.';

'>>61451395
No, you are insisting what we are discussing violates the law of thermodynamics via some hand-wavey Tom Bearden bullshit. It does not. It simply lessens the energy transfer requirements, but the input is not net zero.';

'>>61451408
Scalar potentials are not even being discussed right now, they are a subset of the phenomena of interacting waveforms in phase with each other. You can do this implication of two waveforms with water waves, and any EMF range you want. Which is why you can simply refer to it as waveform physics or phenomena in a closed system.';

'>>61451409
>>61451415
Okay, dipshit. Tom Bearden is amazing and you should absolutely believe that he was allowed to give a presentation on highly classified information. I am sick of arguing with what is essentially my dogs, so I am going to bed.';

'>>61451428
>he doesn't know about the small nation
You don't know jack about Tom. If we processed a specific type of aberration, we of course would be in the field of mental healing, and so forth. But long ago we actually discovered that we must not process specific aberrations, which takes us out of the field of mental healing. It is quite fatal.';

'>>61451417
Show me once in my post chain where I even discussed the law of thermodynamics. And also read my posts again, I am saying part of what academia gets wrong fundamentally is not the laws, but the constraints of the laws and the system as a whole. In a closed system everything is interacting with each other and if you do not know or consider every single variable you cannot claim to have a law that works universally as you try to apply it beyond the scope of your understanding. Waveform amplification and resonance physics is not violating any laws, it is not free energy, it is not woowoo or x subject matter; it is fundamental to all phenomena in the closed system of our universe. And if you law does not take into consideration the constraints of the system, it will not explain all observable phenomena, which modern academia is in a perpetual state of (flawed fundamental constraint considerations leading to indefinite observation of things that seemingly go against its theories).';

'>>61451439
Truth brother. Doesn't validate the individual at all. Do you follow? And if carried on very long, does not result in the betterment of an individual. All we're interested in is the spiritual betterment of the individual.';

'>>61424903
Black projects? I think they are mostly in NYC…';

'>>61451447
Scalar executive boosters promise the ability to be stably exterior. It's a secret academics don't want you to know. We are here at a bridge between one state of Man and a next. We are above the chasm which divides a lower from a higher plateau and this chasm marks an artificial evolutionary step in the progress of Man through observable phenomena. Dianetic's end phenomenon is simply fundamental. Electrons go in. You can't disprove that. Don't let academic constraints blind you to case levels.';

'>>61451447
Thanks brother. I am not claiming to know anything more than anyone else or claiming I am better than anyone else. I simply want more positive and good faith discussion and research about the actual phenomena and the universe we live in. Too often it devolves into egoistically inflamed debate that derails discussion on the subject matter being discussed or researched.';

'>>61450592
There was some retarded Australian (redundant, I know) who leaked legit classified documents here (and got called fake and gay lmao) and got reported by a retired ASIO dude who was browsing, so the likelihood is high.';

'>>61434811
>he didnt read alt.conspiracy';

'>>61451178
>>61451268
>anon gets his mind blown by about wave mechanics';

'Weird but interesting thread.';

'>>61424903
Yo ray stop stealing my rabbitholes.';

'Damn this got shitted up fast

I once saw some people discussing details of the CIA torture program on an obscure forum back in 2002 and was mindblown to to find out it was legit almost 20 years later, so sometimes stuff gets out there but you have to wade through tons of schizobullshit, the HAARP guy on here a prime example of it. It's impossible to keep a secret if it's too juicy, lots of people love to tickle nuts pretending to have the inside track though.';

'>>61452809
You forget just how many mentally ill people use this website.';

'>>61452809
>It's impossible to keep a secret if it's too juicy
lol';

'>>61450523
>At this point, failing to come clean on many of these subjects causes as much - if not more - suffering than keeping them secret.
To the point - while the American government is far from perfect, you wouldn’t want China for example to get the same kind of toys they have.';

'>>61452969
The schizos are what makes this place fun';

'>>61453304
Yeah, I go to /balk/ on /int/ for prime shizo content.

These people are beyond salvation.
You know how /pol/ users think that certain things that have been memed on /pol/ are reality because of the repetitious exposure to the information and they recoil when someone outside their hugbox comes and disrupts that?
These shizos will tell you that you are mentally ill if you say that Bulgaria is corrupt instead of being a victim to the evil EU or they will claim something ridiculous, like Bulgarians inventing the computer, and will attack you and call you crazy if you disagree with them.

It is quite fun, I must admit.

picrel is an american fascist revolutionary who moved to bulgaria and he is organising a terrorist cell to overthrow the EU supporting government of Bulgaria, he already bought weapons and started advertising himself and he is looking for willing extremists on /int/, he will provide housing and weapons, he even outright tells you that the revolution requires blood. He stopped after he almost got reported to the bugar authorities.';

'>>61453304
Worst part?
This is him, yes, he is a homosexual, openly, and he was caught posting about injecting troon juices once.';

'>>61453483
https://youtu.be/eHR9LEZD58U?si=j4aYgYqm5-sDnnbQ
>Come on with your homosexuals';

'>>61441577
This is related to the discovery and successful trials of caesium formate as a drill lubricant for oil/gas mining in the 90s. There are plenty of elements that have demand curves that look like that following the discovery of a practical industrial application. Of course, you could also say that's just a cover for weird exotic uses of the material so believe who you will.';

'>>61453083
It is, look at snowden and assange, bradley manning, klaus fuchs, the rosenberg's, robert hanssen etc. The pentagon has been hacked to hell and back several times over by the Chinese.
The US is not some hyper competent country hiding it's power level for tactical reasons with secret zappers and spaceships, it's circling the shitter.';

'>>61453138
That's the problem in a nutshell - an us vs. them mentality which ignores the underlying failure to recognize when the game should have ended.
>you wouldn’t want China
It doesn't matter! You aren't getting it yet! We need to WORK TOGETHER. Countries don't MATTER anymore. By now every SECOND that ticks by in which disclosure fails to happen is another black mark against us AS A RACE. You people are so mired in this tiny game of nation-states that you fail to realize how tiny our world really is in the grand scheme of the universe. We can be so much more but you idiots can't - or simply won't - figure out what's really important.';

'>>61454215
Fuck that shit. The chinks and vatniks will get our shit over my dead body. Space niggers don't get a say in this.';

'>>61454215
That’s a very idealistic view.
You really don’t think someone like Xi or Putin would use this in bad faith?
Look, I too would want it to be different but world is, often, an ugly place.
In other words, you and I may want to ‘work together’. But some don’t and won’t.';

'>>61441577
> chart shows cesium price exploding in 1991-92
>>61453906
>This is related to the discovery and successful trials of caesium formate as a drill lubricant for oil/gas mining in the 90s.

Cesium fromate became commercially available as a lubricant in 1996. You can see the spike around 1996 in fact. The huge surge around 1992 predates the use of cesium formate as a lubricant.';

'>>61454639
>>61441577
>>61453906
Caesium compounds are used as fuel additives to reduce the radar signature of exhaust plumes.';

'>>61454684
It’s far more than that. It’s for used in MHD flow control and plasma stealth.
Curiously enough, the first B-2 entered service in 1993…';

'>>61450838
Yes, though those are baby steps to be honest.
If you’re interested in papers, apart from Danielewski I’d recommend Poplawski. It’s basically a generalized (as in, simplified and continuous) version of the thing Danielewski is working on, which would become clear if it was developed to completion.
>>61450597
>the Pollack
The Polish connection surrounding those topics is quite intriguing.';

'>>61454894
pierogi will conquer the stars';

'>>61452809
>mindblown to to find out it was legit almost 20 years later
That only shows how much of a brainlet you are.';

'>>61452969
what the fuck was this guy? Is this helmettard?';

'>>61454215
t. Klaus Von Traub IV from Swiss Canton working at the UN.';

'>>61454215
Something tells me you’ve lead a very sheltered life.';

'>>61454894
Are you DoE anon or zapper anon (or neither)? The fact that I could only find stuff from poles makes me suspect it’s just a group of cranks like the guys behind Teichmuller theory';

'>>61457349
I am Zapper anon, so he's not me. And as far as the Pollack goes, he's just a /pol/tard that thinks he knows another way of doing whatever. He always beats around the bush so you never know what the fuck he's talking about.';

'>>61457469
Assuming he’s not larping or delusional, do you really think posting actual details about post-nuclear weapons and anti-gravity on a mongolian basket weaving forum would be worth it?
>I posted some of the most highly kept secrets in the world and all I got is (You)';

'>>61434811
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor
God, you are such a noob.
People have been larping online since the internet first became a thing.';

'>>61457651
>post-nuclear weapons
The what now?';

'>>61424903
>feds figured out space travel using bose-einstein condensates?
I hate you halfwit science worshipers so much. You just toss a bunch of science words together and hope that everyone you talk to is just as clueless as you.';

'>one link to verified government research into spooky shit posted
>almost completely ignored
>meanwhile 200 posts yapping about the galactic brotherhood of peace and whatever the fuck';

'>>61444265
Yeah, thats why the government kept IC engines under wraps to protect the passenger train and horse and buggy industries.
If cold fusion was discovered, the potential economic gains from it would literally revolutionize the world. They'd pay people to build the facilities.';

'>>61457703
>the potential economic gains from it would literally revolutionize the world
Yeah, but in the process would tank the energy sector overnight. You underestimate the lengths the people involved in that grift will go to protect their precious fossil fuel cash from that possibility.';

'>>61449878
They're 404'd because it is always people posting the same 15 year old Fark screencaps and talking about Marauder over and over again.';

'>>61457746
They're already going out of their way to incentivize non-Fossil Fuel energy sources. The government is pissing away money building wind farms and solar panel fields all over.
This conspiracy doesn't have any legs.
Cold fusion would make investors more money, than they'd lose on BP and Shell dying.';

'this threads been up too long.';

'>>61457762
>They're already going out of their way to incentivize non-Fossil Fuel energy sources.
That's not clean fusion and is just another form of corporate waste.
>The government is pissing away money building wind farms and solar panel fields all over.
They're not really putting in the effort to actively phase out fossil fuels entirely, it's just a token political effort to appease voters. If they really went for the option to replace fossil fuel use, you would see those alternative energy sources on a truly revolutionary scale.
>Cold fusion would make investors more money, than they'd lose on BP and Shell dying.
You severely underestimate how much sheer profit is involved in all that dirty shit. It's pure short term growth policies, without even a hint of regard for the future.';

'>>61458078';

'spin';

'>>61458078
>2015
Guess nothing happened after all.';

'This has been the best thread on /k/ in a good while. Somehow, the person most competent in physics research in the whole world, who knows about the conspiracy to suppress everyone's work, is just opening a random thread on /k/ and talking to other gigabrains. Very interesting.';

'>>61460438
That is all of these.
Random forum posts and screencaps from over a decade ago reposted forever as though suddenly any of the woo in them will actually come up in the real world.
If they at least posted stuff that was sourced from within the last 5 years, you'd have something to grab onto. But it is all ancient history that obviously never became relevant.';

'>>61460795
Like this?
https://inspirehep.net/literature/2029668';

'>>61460795
Or this?
https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECE/News/2021/purdue-researchers-control-the-quantum-vacuum';

'>>61457651
Forums like this are the best place to disseminate knowledge because it would very quickly become a conspiracy theory which makes keeping a lid on things simpler. Issue is that that's circular logic which basically makes it impossible to tell lies from the truth';

'This one's an interesting one.';

'>>61461970
So what do you believe are the implications of this?';

'>>61424903
Where does the intelligence agencies outsource their alien tech? Which defense contractor? Since it would be reverse engineering, perhaps Lockheed?';

'>>61462099
That the vacuum can be engineered in the same manner we can engineer the optical properties of a BEC or a metamaterial, and that some of these "vacuum analogue" materials can indeed produce a real physical effect.';

'>>61462360
One little talked about glownigger facility is the Philips Lab at Kirtland AFB. What is suspected to be a university-level research source of our speculated gamma ray laser had a guy from Raytheon directly attached as one of her (Lene Hau's) graduate students (Zachary Dutton). Stephen Chu, our current Secretary of Energy, has also been involved in some of this work.';

'>>61462391
Very interesting';

'>>61462391
>New Mexico
Of course. I read about how locals talk about the vibe around the state just feels weird. Almost as if the entire state has an underground facility below it.';

'Anyone have any information on the Space Force and their spooky stuff? The Delta explanations seem very vague. I want to know which Delta deals with the super advanced alien stuff and glownigger aspects of their mission. Surely, they are spearheading the efforts of stargate technology and futuristic R&D. I ask because I am interested in joining the SF as an officer. Do they work with the CIA, or other groups even more secret? I assume that the "secret space force" is under their direct command off the books.';

'>>61462459
I mean the NRO is listed as a major partner for the SF on wiki so i wouldn't be surprised if there are some rather low profile groups that work with them as well';

'>>61434811
People have been larping to Art Bell long before the internet.';

'>>61460711
Old fags that were on multiple boards in the last 15 years know there isn't anything new or all that crazy being presented ITT. There are some legitimate 160+ IQ anons with spatial and visualization and reasoning capabilities beyond some of the smartest people in academia and the world that used to browse chan. Some still do, lurking.';

'I saw something in 2011 fly over my parents house in rural Iowa at 10 something PM on a starless night in October. There was a bunch of low flying aircraft flying around in the area at night with their landing lights on afterwards trying to psyop me and anyone who witnessed hoping we would misremember what we saw. Story time.
>go to car to go get beer up the gravel road at a gas station before it closes
>walk to car and see what I thought were two helicopter search lights looking for meth labs or something
>the light isn't right
>the two lights move together and aren't a beam of light
>they are two perfect translucent circles where the overlapping area of the circles is opaque
>the circles get smaller and no longer overlap
>the circles shrink and fade away just as two pure white ovals appear
>then a third uniform white oval appears
>it's approaching me and it's close
>watch it pass straight over me maybe 50 feet above a tree I was next two
>it's 3 perfect uniform white circles like someone took the paint circle tool to a black background
>I have astigmatism
>this light does not appear as streaks of light like all other light sources
>it makes a noise but it is barely audible over the dry rustling of the leaves
>it makes a wirring sound most similar to the sound I would hear in Iraq of gas turbines on a helicopter throttled down from block away but this is way closer
>there is also an audible jet thrust/roar sound but it's bearly audible like it is actively being silenced?
>speed is inpossibly slow like high lift fixed wing slow maybe 20-30 mph
>no navigation lights but one white strobe on top only visible from the illumination of the mist by the strobe
>vague glimpse of the front of the craft from the silhouette produced by the strobe illuminated mist
>no shine from a glass canopy but there was an angularish bulge where I would expect the cockpit to be';

'>>61462376
The spontaneous generation and destruction of quantum particles is well understood.
Being able to better separate detritus in a vacuum to observe them is a good step forward in the field, but it isn't really much more than that.

What is interesting here is the ability to make extremely small capacitors and diodes if we can scale up the vacuum generation, but at the same time, the actual applicability of that seems difficult to find due to the complexity of engineering and extreme necessary environmental conditions.
Which basically is true of most quantum computing and quantum electronics programs.';

'>>61462669
They flew a bunch of normalfag aircraft around at low altitudes in the area with landing lights on to psyop anyone who saw it into looking into that instead or to discredit any eye witness of the original craft. All those flights had three indandesnt lamps with a clear bright center to the lights and a red light in the center of the craft. For a good two weeks they did these flights to cover up for moving their military asset through the area.';

'the collins elite...';

'>>61460795
These threads always have two extremes:

1. The idiot that loves sci-fi/conspiracies and posts a bunch of ludicrous ideas.
2. The idiot LARPer that attempts to be a subject matter expert by stringing a bunch of vague statements together to build up a conspiracy.

Real professionals know how to tow the line between what is classified and what is general knowledge. They can have relevant conversations without divulging inappropriate information. Turbo-autists SMEs spilling info are the exception not the rule. If you're expecting to find any juicy secrets here, you're on the wrong forum.';

'>>61462838
what's the correct forum?';

'>>61463016
thelivingmoon';

'>>61463016
Classified government networks.

Did you expect to hear about a private discord, boomer bbs, or irc chatroom? Good luck finding them.';

'Least mentally ill /k/ thread';

'>>61463016
Sites that publish FOIA'd documents or links to them, like the AARO link earlier in this thread.';

'>>61463258
FOIA sites are not a good place for docs, info and discussion. Neither are any mainstream academic or government organization channels. The US patent office has continually and historically sequestered hundreds of thousands of patents for "national security purposes" (read industrial economic and academic corruption purposes) as many of them have actual ground breaking stuff. Others will never get a patent and the guy gets killed or disappears. Patents themselves are corrupt and retarded, as are FOIA database docs (many of which are psyops or deliberately controlled or mislead information), patents being retarded because as has been continually seen historically a guy somewhere invents something groundbreaking (but not controversial, like firearm innovation for eg) and many years later a british or american retard copies it and makes a patent off of it because the European or Asian guy didn't bother to patent it or the patent laws between countries are vague and invalidated over semantics.';

'>>61463305
>all FOIA docs, all patents, and all government sites are le psyops
K';

'>>61463315
Don't get a faggot. Group220 at the USPTO office is 100% real.';

'>>61463016
Cocksuckers Anonymous where this guy>>61462838 is the forum administrator';

'bump';

'>>61424903
>schizo diaper suffers another containment breach
The true black project is therapists trying to unfuck your feeble, rancid brain. PLEASE grow up. Please.';

'>>61449878
Schizoids need to take the motherfucking rope express to gensokyo ASAP as possible on God before jumping jimminy christmas himself
+1 to bump limit, may the big man save his mercy for the soul after yours you fucking faggot
Ps NEVER post again or I'll phone up my daddy (Parent or gay lover? You decide!) and I'll have him saw your genitals right off your thrice-cursed carcass with the fucking Zapper(TM)';

'>>61425259
sounds gay as fuck dont care fucking blring dumb bullshit suck ma jizz';

'Based';

'>black projects
I just call them Section 8 like everyone else';

'>>61466455
>>61466879
Does your dad fuck you while you sleep?';

'>>61466927
>The release of Spooklear weapons has been authorized';

'>>61425259
>>61445513

This anon must be right over the target to get such derogatory replies without any other reason.

Hmmmmminteresting.';

'>>61435121
The same point about people faking UFO photos and stories in the 60s. People like making shit up.';

'>>61468334
But that's real, anon. You can Google it.';

'>>61467532
WRONG retard, that's what I keep your mom around for.
>>61467824
>Ukraine is losing
QED you are the blackest man living in the most secret projects
Oh yeah, +1 to bump limit :^)';

'Yeah, I know a lot of shit but I'm hardly going to tell some fucking QUEERS on the internet, probably wouldn't believe me heh';

'>>61473727
>>61474051
Why are you even here?';

'>>61475588
He's a glowie. He's paid to be here.';

'Realistically, what would happen if someone dropped some *juicy stuff* in here?';

'Shut it down mods. We’re paying you to clean this up.';

'>>61478120
Depends on what you mean by juicy. Somebody already dropped some big chunks of the bag ITT and nothing happened. If you mean actionable technical details, the thread would get nuked and glowies would pull IP addresses and ask some people some very pointed questions.';

'>>61478324
>Somebody already dropped some big chunks of the bag
Like?';

'>>61478120
ask /x/ about the picture of the ayyyyy';

'>>61478410
uhhhh some shit about antimatter idk bro';

'>>61434811
by 2004 every household had already thrown away six dozen AOL CDs.';

'>>61424903
Nuclear injection gas generated electromagnetic radiation project was very promising with the potential for knocking an adversary nation back in the stone age by generating airburst EMPs but for reasons unknown the project was shelved. Inquire about the project to Gen. Austin he may have a word or two about it.';

'>>61483426
Sounds neat, got any links I could check out?';

'>>61445513
>"That'll be TWO Nobel prizes, please"';

'>>61482657
>t. assburnt faggot that probably believes in aliens';

'Quaternion anon, pretend like we are on /k/ and mathematically retarded. Link an applications paper, please
>>61484105
Only deleted one? Does this faggot know we can make another one of these? What would someone want to see in a "Black Projects General"?';

'>>61478120
https://www.engadget.com/2015-08-06-australian-dod-employee-leaked-secrets-to-4chan.html
They get called fake and gay then slapped with prison.';

'>>61487730
Realistically, we can expect not only the application of the disclosure penalties for the "Invention Secrecy Act" and concurrent application of the "Atomic Energy Act". If you believe the hype, the UCMJ allows for extra judicial execution for those required to be in compliance. We all know how much everyone hates ATS/Fark links, but applicable nonetheless
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread630313/pg3';

'>>61434811
I had broadband internet in 2004 playing counterstrike and enemy territory with 10ping. Which was amazing as in 1999 I had 150ping with dialup I was browsing /s/ in 2005. It was all asian chicks at that time, you had to make a thread dedicated to western girls if you wanted any variety. Everything was fucking asian in 2005.

almost everyone had the internet in 2004.';

'>>61487940
>enemy territory

Loved that game. I was a goddamn surgeon with rifle grenades. Remember stile project before it was sold? I remember.';

'>>61478706
I don't go on /x/ can I get a quick rundown?';

'>>61488376
this is a fake version of it, but there was a real one and any time the real one was posted in a thread it'd get deleted within like 30 seconds. Same thing also happened on /pol/ I think.';