'you can't
but otherwise don't blow all your fucking naval resources on three ships you're too afraid to actually send into combat
also choose a different fucking medium caliber AA gun for your ships';

'>>61459403
Nab the design for the automatic 37mm from Germany, and build shitloads of them instead of 25mm peashooters.';

'actually engage logistics vessels
also send in several more waves to hawaii';

'>>61459412
>>61459424
I just checked and both IJA and IJN didn't had any medium caliber AA gun. Why?';

'>>61459403
Don't start one?
Just keep up colonial efforts in the south pacific.
actually genocide the koreans properly';

'>>61459403
Yamamoto was right. There was no winning. Pearl Harbor was the best thing they had going, so they did that and tried to cling on for as long as possible to extract the most concessions.';

'>>61459500
IJA had a few leftover 40mm pompoms and made a handful of bofors at the ass-end of the war, but in general they didn't have the industrial throughput to make anything but their 25mm.
The war was so lopsided you could have had 5 Japans and they still would have lost.';

'>>61459403
The scenario in which Japan wins the Pacific War is Germany defeating Britain and making the US less willing to defend the Allies' former colonies.
The attack on Pearl Harbour is the worst possible option for American public opinion.
Occupy the Philippines and destroy the US fleet as they did at the Battle of Malaya.';

'Also, the Imperial Japanese Navy had not studied total war as much as the Army.
They thought that if they destroyed the US fleet, as they had done during the Russo-Japanese War, the US would offer peace.
That was the reason for their aggressive offensive, ignoring supply lines, and it was the Navy's fault that Japanese soldiers had to make Banzai charge with only a sword and hand grenades.
Crucial to Japan's victory was to continue total war with the US until Germany had defeated the British.
To do so, it would be wrong to go on aggressive offensive even after the occupation of the resource zones in South-East Asia.';

'>>61459647
Dubious if the US would've immediately sent a relief force to the Philippines.';

'>>61459403
Same and only way Germany could won the war in europe. By luck, and good damn, they good so fucking lucky.';

'>>61459534
They could've tried improving the 25 mm. It wasn't ideal (bridging light and medium AA happened way later, when the Germans came out with the MK 213) but it beat starting from scratch (since they didn't really have anybody they could buy better guns from). The Type 96 wasn't a genuinely terrible gun (that distinction is reserved for the US 1.1''). It just had low ROF (worsened by the shit 15-round box mags) and poor accuracy (due to both vibrations and bad sights).';

'>>61460374
Sure, but even the British managed to turn the pom-pom into a serviceable weapon even though it was outclassed by the newer Bofors 20 and 40mm being put on every allied ship
meanwhile Japan's late-war attempted solution to aircraft spam was "lol just put the Type 96 in triple mounts on top of main guns" and sometimes shit like replacing Maya's third turret with another pair of oh so effective time fused 5" guns';

'>>61459403
Convince the IJA to throw themselves at the Northern Resource Area after Barbarossa begins. Worst case, you gut the IJA and take full control of Japan.';

'undefined';

'never attack america, bypass the philippines and just attack the british
how would a war waged for the sake of keeping british colonial possession intact ever be sold to the american public without pearl harbor?';

'What they did was all they realistically could have done. Strategically they could have dumped their battleships and went more aggressively into carriers and leaned big into training up naval air groups, get more help from Germany re industrial tech, etc — but all of that is hindsight. It’s just, no matter how you shake it, the IJN was going to have it’s shit pushed in and it would have taken a straight-up miracle for there to have been a different outcome.

Japan didn’t have the resources, the end. Even if you equalize the talent and technology, the massive resource disparity would mean inevitable defeat for Japan. The fact that the USN was notably superior in most ways and that superiority gap widened over time just shut down the IJN that more quickly, Even with the power of hindsight I don’t know what they could have done to change the outcome, only help them survive a while longer.

Oh and before anyone spazzes out iver “just don’t go to war DUH” that was a flat-out impossibility. Japan was dedicated to carving out an imperial domain out of the region and there was ZERO chance the US would ever accept that. In order to not go to war they’d have to officially give up on that policy would be the same as the government simply resigning and giving up power entirely while abandoning the zaibatsu partners who were the beneficiaries of that expansion, Even if they did mass-resign the zaibatsus would partner with other figures and get a new government back on track to capturing an empire.';

'>>61466387
Just attack into jungles, mountains and try to send their navy through narrow straits the whole war? Sounds extremely retarded. Their attempts were failures and already on the edge of their supplies when they had complete control of the region, now do the same with a risk of the Philippines having a belligerent force inside it to block you if they get involved';

'>>61459403
Just attack the bongs and dutch and gamble on america staying out
>but your logistics are totally at America's mercy if they choose to intervene
yes
it's still the better gamble';

'>>61466450
if the philippines are in the war then america is in the war
if america is in the war then you've lost, no further questions required
your number one priority should be to avoid war with america';

'>>61459403
>invent the proximity fuse for AAA
>invent and deploy superior Japanese radar
>have unbreakable encrypted naval comms
>develop and deploy effective anti-submarine patrols and escorts
>have more resources for building more ships
Checkmate, waito piggu.';

'>>61466781
Wake up, kiddo';

'>>61459403
I lead an espionage effort to remove leftists and jews from positions of power in the US, so that the US sells us petroleum to use in China.
Pacific? Pacific is a peaceful ocean, why would I need to fight over it.';

'>>61466452
>>61466453
This';

'>>61459403
The outcome that happened was the best case scenario for the Japanese.
They lost with dignity, which wouldn’t have happened if the red army made it to Honshu.';

'everyone talking equipment is totally missing the plot
Jap autism had the navy and army actively trying to sabotage each other. The fucked themselves from the start';

'>>61459403
>WWFND';

'>>61466452
it's only a hair of a percent lower chance than attacking Pearl, because America at the time was already de facto siding Britain against the Axis';

'Don't attack Pearl Harbor, take the British and Dutch possessions but leave the Philippines. No one has a mutual defense obligation with the US and access to their oil was already lost prior to Dec. 7th.
Let the Army work in China and the Navy will focus on solidifying the holdings of the islands taken. War with America may still come but let them be the ones to fire the first shots.';

'>These are your commanders, good luck!';

'>>61459403
I'm so sorry America senpai, how about we call it even and I promise to go even harder on China and Russia post WW2';

'>>61459403
Consider instead taking over Hawaii with sudden strike of Secret Servants (great book about Jap civilian spies everywhere and why we had to lock up all the "loyal American citizens") in conjunction with ginned up Native Hawaiian and even dis-enfranchised Americans. Pre-State Hood judges would offer criminals a one way ticket to Hawaii in liu of prison.
Do similar takeovers in Dutch East Indies and Viet Nam and declare them all now "free" but also part of Japanese led Axis. Do same in China and Flips. Its all about freeing from (((Western))) domination. Start that shit also in INDIA, which was on the brink and waiting for a spark.

Push the line in USA that all these newly freed Gooks and those still fighting only want to be free like Americans did in 1776.

Coordinate with Hitler and his anti-Colonial stance. Get help or maybe just limited political support from anti-Colonials in USSR, and/or their flak on US college campuses and Union Halls. Jews would be split, likely much like today over Gaza. Honest Jews would apply their "moral framework" and support non-White freedom, establishment Jews would support old power structure.

Offer LatinX a "New Way" out from under American domination and path to be Real Nations dealing with Far East as more than equal partners directly.';

'The Kido Butai got into launching range of Pearl without being detected...what if I know that is possible and decide to sail the entire battleline right to Hawaii and shell the shit out the US Pacific Fleet? Even if they detect and set sail then a fight in open water means any losses are permanent.';

'>>61459403
I'd start by regularly changing my military and diplomatic codes so that in the unlikely event they get cracked, my complex battle plans to sink the American fleet aren't read like an open book.
Then I'd hold off on attacking the Americans until I had the logistical ability to actually destroy and/or conquer their primary Pacific naval base on Pearl Harbor';

'>>61466450
Japan could project force southwards from Formosa if they controlled either the Philippines or Vietnam; they went with both but just Vietnam would still allow for operations against Malaya, Borneo, and the Dutch East Indies. The only risk the Philippines posed was as a base for an Anglo-American strike fleet to operate out of, but if that happens then you can conquer them anyways; there's no reason to poke the sleeping eagle any more than you have to';

'>>61459403
Step 1: take Indochina from France
Step 2: take Singapore from the British
Step 3: take the Sunda strait from the Dutch
Step 4: with the 2nd Island chain mostly secure, push out past the Malaysian Barrier to operate in the Indian Ocean and try to seize Ceylon; this will prevent any British reinforcement of Australia and will enable you to meanmug them back to Sydney
Step 5: Close the Burma road by advancing up the coast with naval supplies
Step 6: rape';

'>>61459403
>How would you win the Pacific Ocean war
By not starting one of course. I'd coincidentally discover the massive oil and gas fields of Manchuria which would make Japan self-sufficient rendering the US oil embargo and the plans to secure the Dutch East Indies (thus starting a war with the West) irrelevant. Afterwards Japan could just focus on ending the war in China or invading the USSR if it really wanted to.';

'>>61472417
>Seize Ceylon, an immense logistical stretch, when they couldn't even seize New Guinea';

'>>61472362
>Then I'd hold off on attacking the Americans until I had the logistical ability to actually destroy and/or conquer their primary Pacific naval base on Pearl Harbor
So then never';

'>>61472459
Fantasy land. War with the U.S. was considered to be imminent which is why the Pearl operation was conducted to begin with. Also, Japan didn’t have the technical ability to build up major oil infrastructure in anything like a decent timeframe and hoped to capture existing infrastructure from the DEI. Of course they also didn’t have the merchant marine assets for even that let alone being able to protect in case of war with the U.S. but since war with the U.S. seemed inevitable they planned a preemptive strike and seemed to just go with copes for the future. Because not getting into a war with the U.S. meant abandoning their imperial adventures and that was politically impossible within Japan so the Japanese leadership didn’t just roll over and die, they resisted and coped until the end. Because the outcome seems obvious in theory ("we can’t win in a war against the U.S.") they couldn’t see the future and so it’s possible to keep coping until the end. Because you’re in power with wealth and a lifestyle, and you’ll still be living that life the next day, the next day after that, next week and next month etc. Things will work somehow, or at least you’ll find an exit strategy, etc. That’s the mentality which carried both German and Japanese leadership through a losing war until the very end. Elites care about #1 and their direct supporters and the nation barely at all which they just see as their wealth but which can be sacrificed for their sake.';

'>>61472459
>which would make Japan self-sufficient
The US embargo covered basically every kind of material that could be used to make military equipment.';

'Ram the Yamato and Musashi into the Panama canal and wedge them there.';

'>>61459507
>yamamoto tells high command and militarists that war with america is genuinely asking the impossible
>they comically misinterpret it as advocating it and puts him in charge of it
>his plan hinges on things basically outside of his control
>attack goes to plan but still is a failure due to said things outside his control
>everyone celebrates while yamamoto knows instantly how genuinely over it is for japan
honestly him dying before the Kamikazes and naval suicide run horseshit seems almost like a mercy.';

'>>61472812
>they comically misinterpret it
no, they didn't; they forced him to run the war because he was still their most capable admiral
no doubt the irony was not lost on them; they probably considered it a humiliation or punishment for daring to speak against the war that he would be forced to plan and manage it
> him dying before the Kamikazes and naval suicide run horseshit seems almost like a mercy
probably, yes
I wouldn't be surprised if he genuinely had a death wish
it seems pretty reckless for him to go round inspecting the front like that';

'>>61467482
>if the red army made it to Honshu.
With what navy?';

'Tbh same as in axis and Allies. Get the oil and deal with China while keeping the god damn Americans away from you. If you do Pearl Harbor at all focus on fucking up the fleet repair facilities';

'>>61473158
>axis and Allies
the board game? it's retarded. too Axis-biased for balance.';

'>>61459403
In the modern era I would join team China';

'>>61470027
Kek this is Admiral Fukyu Niggah tier';

'>>61459403
Don't attack US.
Done.
Britbongs are coping and seething.';

'>>61474397
>safest way to ski?
>uhhh don't go skiing
Hurrr durrrrr';

'>>61459732
I'd actually give the Japanese the benefit of the doubt on this. If Pearl Harbor had been 100% successful - sunk carriers, that is - then the Japanese would have successfully attrited away any surviving carriers afterwards (they almost did anyway) and at that point the Japanese are in a position to invade Hawaii - not just "ohhhh we landed troops, time to get in a stalemate on the islands" but "we have successfully blockaded the islands and are now in the process of eliminating resistance and establishing a puppet government". The United States genuinely did almost lose the Pacific theater, but that window was only ever open during the first year or so. So yeah, the US could have hypothetically peaced out if they genuinely couldn't have stopped the Japanese from doing whatever they wanted for several months.';

'Cancel the Pearl raid, rail coke off a Chinese hookers' tits while your marines bayonet her husband';

'>>61474461
Impossible. Just doing a raid stretched their logistics to the maximum. Landing, supporting and supplying forces on Hawaii was far beyond their capability.';

'No Pearl, but take Philippines. The US were about to enter, anyway, leaving the Philippines in American hands is just asking for an instant loss.
No Midway, no Solomons. Just wait, follow the 1930s' war plan of attriting the Americans as they make their way towards Japan while conserving forces.
Pay attention to ASW. We're an island, dammit.
Decisive battle at the Marianas, circa mid 1944. My carrier- and land based airpower is still largely intact, my officer corps hasn't been gutted.
I still lose the battle, but the Americans lose a shitton of men and tonnage way out of proportion of what they lost otl. The Marianas are defended Iwo Jima style and won't be available as airfields for a while.
Sue for peace in the hope the yanks allow Japan to keep Taiwan, southern Sakhalin and maybe (not gonna happen, but whatever) Korea.
If the Americans want to destroy me, they can still do it. This is unavoidable.
But maybe it is possible to convince them that it isn't worth it.';

'>>61475197
Another admiral places you in a Sumo headlock. What now?';

'>>61472502
Pretty much. Unless the US gets distracted by a civil war or invasion of the East Coast I'm staying out of it, based solely on her shipbuilding capacity';

'>>61473766
Yes that's what makes the game playable';

'>>61475233
Twist his dick';

'>>61471987
>US ship gets damaged
>is in port 15 minutes later
>Japanese ship gets damaged
>is 3,000 miles from any repair facilities at bingo fuel';

'>>61475233
Show him who's the boss of this navy.';

'>>61459403
they can't, Japan would always loose to the US in the Pacific, their only chance is to sidestep the War with America:
Only take French and Dutch colonies, try to introduce anticommunist propaganda in the US, attack the Soviets before Barbarossa, bait the red army into Siberia and let the Germans steamroll through western Russia.
of course that requires some coordination with the nazis and all of these alt history things are just bending reality but that might work
>>61469948
I'd watch it ngl';

'>nihhon
God';

'>>61459403
>Facing the US Navy
>wanting to win
Dont start a war with the US or British. The game was rigged from the start';

'>>61473766
Axis and Allies Miniatures is so much more fun than that crap, shame it's out of print. I try to keep it alive in my game group.
(Check out aamcardbase.com)';

'>>61459403
I would yawn really loud when minions present plans';

'>>61476477
Funny how not even the IJA x IJN could coordinate';

'>>61459403
Begin sinking IJA transports';

'>>61470027
beating them into the dust in WW2 really did them a big service';

'>>61459403
Don't declare war on USA, just eat SEA.';

'>>61459403
Simple, you formalize an alliance with the US and divide the pacific evenly.';

'>>61477017
>>61478303
People should understand that the war with the US was inevitable';

'>>61480934
Only if they stuck with the tripartite pact.';