'>ignore the guide on purpose
>formatting gets fucked up
Fitting';

'undefined';

'>>61462143
Based';

'>>61462143
Sometimes I wonder if I should have gotten the USP over the 45.';

'>>61461980
Is this based or cringe?';

'Hnnnnggg I wanna do it';

'>>61462251
very cringe as you could have done that to a repro or coldwar era high powers, plus it'll result in a gun that's not very good anyway. it's just complete reddit "look at what I did guise! I modernized this relic!", there's people who just enjoy destroying things.

if they wanted a modern pistol, there are much better options.';

'>>61462320
Based. The full length dust covers are kino. Currently resisting the urge to buy a CZC A01. The DWX is on the list as well but I'm going to wait for another batch (if there is one).';

'Looking to pick up my first 9mm, narrowed it down to a S&W MP9 and a Glock 19. Which should I go for? I've heard the Smith outperforms the Glock, but the Glock has much better aftermarket support';

'>>61462382
They're similar, pick whichever you like. I think the M&P M2.0 is superior but some people complain about the grip texture. Go try them and see. Aftermarket is a meme, you won't lack for M&P parts and holsters.

>>61462364
Wait did they say the DWX was a limited thing? I thought they were just retarded and couldn't produce it fast enough.';

'>>61462382
try both out. one thing with Glock is that it is really easy to replace what you don't like by yourself, but a Smith is good out of the box.';

'>>61462382
its the same shit. get whatever feels nice in your hand. M&P mags do cost more if you feel the need to buy a bunch, so take that into your cost equation.';

'>>61462396
>>61462412
>>61462421
How about the CZ P10?
I'm leaning towards the Glock because I like the look and feel.';

'>>61462425
It also is alright. Almost anything you will find in a gun shop is alright. People with strong brand opinions are just trying to protect their retarded cliquethink

Check out everything, if you have criteria apply them, if not you almost can't go wrong.';

'What should I get to bridge this gap? I saw a like new S&W Model 69 Combat Magnum for $670';

'>>61462455
That's a good price. Those L frame 44s are cool.';

'>>61462425
It's pretty hard to go wrong with a striker fired 9mm these days. Pretty much all work reliably. Even shit like a Taurus G3 will run reliably, theres just no reason to buy one because you can get something objectively better in every way for like $50 more. The only thing on most pistols that isn't easily changed are the ergonomics (how it feels in your hand, position of the buttons, etc), which aren't typically adjustable beyond the backstrap panel without sending it off to a gunsmith.

Do yourself a favor and set aside the time to ACTUALLY visit a sporting goods store and get your hands on a few first. I know nobody actually follows this advice because men get their hearts set on an ideal of something, but I'll give it anyway. Just don't buy whatever shit they're trying to push on you unless the price is good and you really like it. Shop around.';

'>>61462600
That's what I did and why I narrowed it down to the Smith and the Glock. I liked how the CZ's grips felt a bit more but grips can be changed. The Smith had an easier slide release. The Glock had a nicer balance when aiming.';

'>>61462251
Cringe.';

'>>61462616
Have you found a place locally to rent and try these few option?' Might help you decide.';

'>>61462616
Glocks have a unique grip angle everyone calls "the hump" that sort of forces your hand into a particular position which contributes to that balance you're feeling. Some people like it, some hate it. Bear in mind grips can only *sort of* be changed on most polymer pistols, in that you can change that portion on the back, but the rest is set in stone. M&P has a leg up in that regard, too, since changing the backstraps doesnt involve any other tools. Glock and CZ need a hammer and a punch to drive the pins. Not a real problem of course, but much more convenient if youre trying to find the right backstrap size for your hands while at the range.

Among those three, I would go with the M&P as the most practical choice. Around the same price as a Glock but all of the standard features are better. If you decide on one of the others, though, neither would be a bad choice.';

'>>61461980
what do you think of this';

'Why the fuck do guns have to cost money

Jokes aside though I went to a gun show and the price tag on everything made me weep';

'/rg/ + /hg/';

'>>61462251
based, weapons are made to shoot. If you keep a gun in a museum you are denying its purpose';

'>>61461980
Please come pick up your trash.
t. /arg/';

'>>61462853
Whatever keeps him away from hg and brg
Have fun with him';

'>>61462896
He has a .308?';

'are glock carbine kits a meme? I can only own one pistol and I was thinkinga bout a glock with a carbine kit to have two in one';

'>>61462396
They didn't say but it's been like a year? If you've noticed, the DWX full size dropped and flooded gb. Those were eventually mostly bought up, then the DWX compact dropped and gb was flooded with that dogshit. It's still flooded with it, with not a single new full size in sight. There's a few used offerings, usually above MSRP. It's been a while, so maybe if they're preparing a large batch to dump but I don't see why they don't just stream out smaller batches if they're being actually produced.

>>61462853
No you guys can have him, seriously it's alright.';

'>>61462853
You can keep him, he says he has an assault rifle now';

'>>61462938
Nah, they’re pretty much tailor-made for the Euro market that can only own a limited number of guns. The Glock carbines are okay, the ones that actually replace the barrel and slide are better than the chassis systems like the MCX.

>>61462687
You don’t need a hammer and punch to change the back strap on a Glock. The little tree of back straps comes with a pin you can push the trigger housing pin with, or just use a screwdriver or ballpoint pen cartridge or anything.';

'Hallo,
Unfortunately I don't have any good news.
I have checked with all necessary internal bodies & unfortunately we cannot

Not shipping via Consol Service as expected.
According to our compliance department, we would have to send the shipment directly & including insurance,

because it is oil for weapons and therefore falls under our compliance guidelines.
Under these conditions + that the goods would have to be secured in FR,

Shipping would be 3x as expensive (approx. +/- 1200 euros).


I'm really very sorry, but I have to comply with the corporate guidelines/guidelines

Unfortunately, it has no influence and can therefore not be easily avoided.

According to our accounting, shipping should only be paid in advance

be carried out & we would first have to send all documents for final review

Forward compliance department. Only then would shipping be possible.

>how to get cucked by cucks, Lubrication style';

'>>61462853
You are the trash.';

'>>61462924
No. He uses his 1907 as a reason to be there';

'>>61462853
He’ll be avatar posting there soon. It’s over, he now belongs to /arg/. Hell, even the thread edition is fitting for him.';

'>>61462954
Some youtubequeer said they are introducing an optic ready model (fucking finally--gun's worthless otherwise, anyone who bought one is a tard). Not that eshills are trustworthy but it seems logical. I can't imagine their jewed price is hurting their sales THAT much to discontinue the line.

>>61462966
They are charging 3x as much because it's "for weapons?" What "guideline" specifies this?';

'>>61463062
>.351 Win
That's not even BR territory, LMAO';

'>>61463141
Anyone who bought one is probably a genius. You can just get the slide milled. No way that faggot uses anything but his absolutely dog ass specialist cut. Maybe he will restock the RMR plates on launch. Because that's what everyone is going to want, but not get in their $2000 gun purchase.';

'>>61462963
Ehh, that's semantics. The included tool and the other options are substitutes that serve the same purpose as a punch. The tool also only works for taking the pin out; with the way Glock molds their Gen 5 backstraps, I've needed to hammer the housing pin back in if I actually put one on. Meanwhile, with an M&P you straight up just rotate the lanyard tool and pull it out, then push it back through the new one. You don't even have to actuate the sear lever like they suggest unless you want to.';

'>>61461980
>beta testers ironed out all the kinks and flaws(thanks faggots)
>cheap as dirt yet same reliability now as anything else on the market
>optics cut, threaded barrel, slide cuts, and raised iron sights
last but not least
>still manage to piss off the glockfags while having better ergonomics and better features

literally why shouldn’t I? it’s literally a glock without the price gouging. The looks and features are a bonus';

'>>61463377
I mean yeah, you should';

'>>61463377
No reason you shouldn't if you want a Glock. Trigger's worse than OEM, but that's a cheap fix. PSA's warranty is probably worse but thats not really a consideration. When's PSA going to start offering the 19L slides for these again? I'm not a fan of Brownell's on the PSA frame.';

'>>61463377
Go for it';

'>>61463377
>finger groove and same steep angle
>better ergonomics';

'>>61463141
>They are charging 3x as much because it's "for weapons?" What "guideline" specifies this?
See, thats just strange. Even the customs see it as lubricant and nothing else. My inner german wants to sue them for crimes against the american people but Im to poor to teach them a lesson ;_; Its fine, going to print out new papers now for the other company and i guess they wont cuck me.';

'Dis they fix the Springfield Prodigy yet?';

'>>61462966
How can any faggot prove that lubrication is specifically for guns?
>>61463520
I agree. I have zero clues about the context but depending on circumstance, I smell a lucrative lawsuit';

'>>61463458
Hey man, better still doesn't mean good. Their compact frame's an improvement over Glock at least. Single groove aside, the texture's better all around and runs higher. Beavertail's extended enough to be comfy without having to chop a strap like Glock. Haven't measured but the palm feels a hair wider, too. The full size S frame however sucks ass in comparison. I don't know how, but they managed to make it noticeably more uncomfortable than a 17.';

'>>61463542
What day of the week is it?';

'staccato p or c2?';

'>>61463660
Are you going to conceal carry it?';

'>>61463567
I heard the grip feels very M&P-like which let’s be honest…is just flat out better than anything glock has ever done. Don’t know how accurate that is though';

'>>61463712
no';

'>>61463557
It was a request for a forwarding agency (big one) to export into the USA. They just treat Coomoil like they do firearms and firearm parts without any reason which is sus. Its just that classic anti-gun bullshit but on the other hand they love to move tanks around,lol. I hope the other forwarding agency wont cuck me this week, there are just 3 companies i could pick IRL. DHL Express is to expensiv so we went to the big shit to cut cost down since Gold Guard is much cheaper per weight and the cleaners will be even worse. Its needed, I wanna export gun parts and surplus at some day so we need to find THAT ONE uncucked partner';

'>>61463738
Then why would ya get a smaller lower capacity higher recoiling version?';

'if M&Ps are so good, then why aren’t they used by a single military other than Iraq?';

'Only the most trusted, reliable brands of hot sauce and firearms for me.';

'>>61463829
Because it looks cute?';

'>>61463722
Hmm. I've shot an assload of M&P and Glock, and maybe ~500ish through my two Daggers combined. Dagger's sort of similar to the M&P 1.0 in texture if less aggressive I guess. They're not similar to the 2.0 at all though, imo. Not a brand loyalist by any means but I'm confident M&P 2.0 shits on its immediate competition pretty hard when it comes to the grip. Say what you will about their aggressive texture, but I know very few who don't prefer it when it comes time to actually shoot. Has 4 backstrap sizes as opposed to the normal 3, and they also wrap around to the palm which most designs overlook. I can get them to fit my hand way better than a P30/VP9 despite the spiderman grips allowing for a (theoretically) more bespoke fit.';

'>>61463846
Iraq has a military?';

'>>61462382
>should I buy a striker fired pistol from a fucking REVOLVER company or the the actual brand who fucking made it what it is today?
gee retard, i don't know....';

'I hate the AntiChrist';

'>>61463846
because they're legitimately awful
imagine buying anything S&W post 1900 lmfao';

'I found some hard cast lead 98 grain .313 caliber bullets. Think this could be good defensive ammo for my .32 when I get a reloading setup?';

'Do NOT buy a staccato.
It will ruin cheap guns for you forever.';

'>>61463878
How white

Nice pic, very satisfying

>>61463846
Militaries try to use domestically produced firearms and there's only one United States of America.';

'>>61463006
every thread you post in, people have contempt for you. get help, seriously';

'>>61464161
>t. anonymous';

'>>61463846
Cost?';

'>>61464210
So Iraq can afford M&Ps, but Switzerland can’t?';

'twice the stopping power of your gun';

'Chart of 9mm glocks worth buying';

'>>61463377
>he thinks the kinks and flaws are ironed out
lmao
buy a berreta apx, buy a canik, buy a smith, buy police surplus, buy literally anything else to save a buck other than one of psa's 20 project guns that they can't put enough resources into to stop the trigger pins from walking out.';

'undefined';

'Anyone have one of these? Am I gay for wanting one?';

'>>61464509
No, yes';

'>>61464509
No.
Yes.';

'>>61464509
Yes';

'>>61464412
>47
>49
>no 17L';

'>>61464509
I do not recommend the .45, as I had an aluminum .45 1911 commander/officer CCO that fucking sucked to shoot for extended courses of fire. An anon that used to post here had the 9mm version and he liked it alot, IIRC 600 rounds or so without issue was his report.';

'>>61463377
I'll buy a dagger frame when they release one that's g26 sized.';

'>>61464509
I saw that on the S&W website earlier today and wondered why I hadnt seen anyone posting about it. It somehow looks . . . idk, cheap.

Does anyone know anything about the 3.6" barrel M&P 2 compacts? Basically compact length grip but halfway between a compact and subcompact length barrel. Its kind of like a fatter slide version of a g43x without mag issues. Seemed kind of cool.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/m-p-9-m2.0-3.6-inch-no-thumb-safety-optics-ready-compact-series';

'>>61464784
>Basically compact length grip but halfway between a compact and subcompact length barrel
It's just a boring version of the PX4 Compact.';

'>>61464758
Interesting, thanks. Yeah, was thinking of the 9mm.';

'>>61464999
wow. never in thought to compare them before. px4 is a chonkster though.';

'>>61465021
The stated width numbers for the whole Px4 line are fucked because they include the giant bat wing ambi decocking levers on the slide. The actual gun is nowhere near that thicc.';

'>>61462251
The redditor who did that deserves 24/7 CBT';

'>>61465034
Yeah I see that now. Looks more typical glock width.';

'>>61465034
Why on God’s green earth does Beretta insist on their stupid ass slide safeties?
It wasn’t good back in 1980. It certainly isn’t good now.';

'>85 year old woman gets shot with 9mm, survives, returns fire with .357 Magnum and kills jogger
Should I just sell all my guns and get a Ruger GP100?';

'>>61465052
Decocking is an administrative task that not only doesn't require a convenient control, but actually benefits from having it be out of the way.
Additionally, the specific way that Beretta 92/Px4 decockers work lets the hammer fall all the way instead of onto a half-cock notch, which reduces wear on the sear.
>but the safety
It's a DA/SA, the safety is only there to lock out the trigger while grunts are loading and unloading the gun. You aren't supposed to carry it that way, and accordingly how easy or difficult it is to take off safe is irrelevant—also it's trivial to take off safe if you aren't retarded';

'>>61465059
>one person nat 20's 4/6 rolls COM
>the other person botches 16/18 rolls and grazes flesh
Yeah you should it's a suitably retarded move for someone who thinks 9mm is "weak"';

'>>61465059
>jogger magdumps in the target's general direction, scores only grazing wounds
Many such cases!!';

'I feel like I've stumbled upon forbidden knowledge. I can actuate the tail cap way easier with a grip like this compared to the traditional syringe grip, and I feel like my support hand is actually doing something.';

'I think I love CZs';

'>>61465102
>jogger
No sparkling wiggles here.';

'>>61462320
Please do. And post pics. It’s blue, so you have no choice.';

'I was shooting blazer brass from a g43x and I had one round fail to fire and light primer strike off to the side instead of in the center.

I checked the bullet and it had some kind of fucked up bit where the casing meets the penis head of the bullet on one side.

I shot another few mags and they ran fine. Do you think it was the bullets fault or something wrong with gun?

I see a lot of horror stories of offcenter light primer strikes in g43x due to fucked up trigger bars flexing the frame or something but it might just be people limp wristing idk';

'Lubeanon
I used your coom oil to lubricate the rails that my car's power seats right on
It actually seems to be operating more smoothly';

'Man I love my Wrangler. Aguila made it stinky though';

'probably important to note that I tried shooting it again and it wouldn't shoot. Other bullets after did shoot.';

'I am happy to see that the twink has been offloaded onto /arg/
Now they can suffer. Maybe God does exist.';

'>>61465098
357's 125gr loads seem to roll a lot more 20s than 9mm. Hmmmm...';

'>>61465175
idk about the 43X specifically, but off-center primer strikes are often due to the gun not being fully in battery
make sure your recoil spring still has life, and is installed properly';

'>>61462320
>custom serial';

'>>61464999
It's like a good PX4 with real support.';

'>>61465216
its a new gun. I was hoping it had to do with the visually shitty bullet than the RSA or some mechanical issue. Only happened once';

'>>61464999
The PX4 is already a boring gun with a vague shape of the Ruger P89.';

'>>61461980
>borrowed my buddy's revolver and he let me fan fire it
Yeehaw';

'>>61465231
it also looks retarded';

'>>61465227
id pass on blazer (its freakin dirty) and just keep shooting. Sometimes ammo does weird shit.';

'>>61465283
That too. Just get a 92 if one wants to suck Beretta cock so much at that point.';

'>>61465182
Let me take a sceen and send utz to the cucks, I see a chance to export it as car lubricant amd save some bucks :) BTW, use Coom for all household lube jobs, its working great for that';

'>>61465300
right, the 92 is on my list but the constant px4 shilling has put me off to it even more than i already was.';

'>>61465193
How many twinks does that leave in /hg/?';

'>>61465341
There's the one with the ported 92 also';

'>>61465347
And the Bersa one';

'>>61465358
and the one with the blue P226 and the Third Bay Ounce';

'>>61465367
Guess there’s still some left then';

'Pretty happy with today. I’m not a great shot with my Blackhawk, and this is one target of 4 that I ran 120 rounds of 38 special at, and it’s not spectacular shooting for 30 feet, and it’s not like it’s super recoil heavy ammo.. but after a lot of planning and prep and luck, they’re the first 120 rounds I loaded and shot myself, and hopefully the beginning of many more. Feels good bros.';

'>>61465397
Loaded another 20 after these first 100. Had preprimed new brass. Loaded with unique, next week I shoot some that I got as new brass and primed myself, week after I plan to shoot some that started as once fired brass that I’m gonna clean and reload. Then move on to 357.';

'>>61465415
I think the twinks were more likely the bullying victims';

'>>61465415
What brought this on? I’m just asking about this general’s twinks';

'What’s a good 357 revulva if I just want one for the heck of it and don’t need anything fancy?';

'>>61465447
Colt Python 4.25"
>but
The GP100 is ugly, S&Ws have been trash since before you were born, Taurus is aggressively mid, etc.
Just get the Python.';

'>>61465415
projection. sorry about your soft supple hands either way though';

'>>61465367
You think you're real fuckin cute huh?';

'>>61465465
>olt
lol';

'>>61465511
What am I supposed to be disgusted by, here? Inconsistent rollmark depth?';

'>>61465528
lmao';

'1699 pls + tip';

'anyone know a good thread protector that won't rust where you hold it to screw it onto a barrel?';

'>>61465511
P Y THON';

'>>61462628

Where did you get that patch?';

'>>61465397
>>61465412
based handloader
have you done any load experimentation yet, or just following the book to start?';

'>>61465447
Do you want a double action or a single?';

'>>61465497
:^)';

'>>61465593
Just following the book for now, although I did manage to get a few older books with pre nerf 357 load data. I plan on experimenting eventually, but want to work through official recipes for the stuff I have first. 38, 357.. then 45lc and 454 casull.. most of the casull recipes are well below the performance of a lot of the ammo out there. Shooting a Ruger Blackhawk for the 357 and an Alaskan for the 454 so I’m confident I have a lot of safety margin for hotter loadings.';

'>>61465593
A truism: Often times its okay to interpolate data, but to extrapolate is entering the unknown and should only be done with a very strong gun.
QL or GRT/ and at least some topical writings from Brian Pearce/Taffin/etc is good to have too.';

'>>61465447
Used gp100 or maybe a 686 comes to mind. security sixes used to be the go to when i was in a similar position about a decade back, they were running about $400, not sure if that still holds true tho so the ideal quality/price gun might be different now.';

'>>61465652
Six series guns are running about 500 to 600 now.';

'>>61465656
Really fucking regret trading mine for a similar value(at the time) poly 9mm gun, eh at least i replaced it with another .357 even if its a meme gun';

'There a way to get a thread protector for a glock that doesn't look like the generic one that seemingly every vendor sells?';

'>>61465618
I don’t plan on getting to crazy with that till I have a good chronograph. Before I got reloading gear I’ve been prepping by both saving brass, and shooting a ton of different types of 454.. I dont plan on beating out Buffalo bore. But I’d like to get a lot closer than the book loadings I’ve seen so far. I’ll look those guys up though, I figure you can’t have to many reloading books.. so far I’ve got a hornady handbook 3rd edition, Lyman 47th and 50th (wild how much difference their is in 357 loadings) that Speer book, and “pet loads” by Ken waters which has a lot of info.';

'>>61465618
Been planning this all for a while, I should be good as far as test guns for 357 and 454 go. Short of using an encore or contender I think a Blackhawk and super redhawk are probably as good as it’s gonna get.';

'>>61465713
>>61465618
Forgot the picture';

'>>61465528
The fact that it looks like a galvanized conduit

>>61465696
There is no way';

'>>61465758
>there is no way';

'>>61465447
You can find Model 28s in the $600 range. Probably won't be cosmetically perfect, but many of them haven't been shot much.';

'>>61465808
It's just not possible to browse online marketplaces to find such a rare dangerous item. I can't even fathom how you would be able to browse countless variations in order to select one that most appeals to you and then, I don't even know what's the word? Buy? Buy one of them using some form of instant cashless barter--no, that's the wrong word, transaction? PAYMENT--payment type. And then how would you even receive it? Ugh this is hurting my skull. I literally don't know what to do, I just leave them blank. I can't figure';

'>>61465939
I just want one that doesn't look like the generic one they all have as the one I have rn is starting to slowly rust on the outside for some god damn reason';

'>>61465951
so brush it and apply oil like you would with the rest of the gun. it's a small cutoff piece of steel with threads on the id and knurling on the od, how "different" are you expecting it to be?';

'>>61461980
>https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik
friendly reminder the CZ shadow compact has no drop safety.';

'>>61466001
>cz sigger compact';

'>>61465988
idk man i've had it for two years an now there's a weird spot on there that I couldn't get off with a brush.';

'>>61465125
Turns out this is basically the Chapman method. I've just moved my support hand up by a finger so I can turn the flashlight on and off against the strong hand thumb. Not as expedient as just shooting one-handed if you've already got the flashlight in an icepick and have suddenly determined that rounds need to be sent, but it does the pseudo WML thing better than any other flashlight technique I've seen demonstrated.

I'd like to see how this holds up under recoil.';

'>>61466153
It'll be fine. Why not get a comp or something?';

'>>61466229
haven't thought about it as it's a 9mm barrel for a glock 22.';

'What the hell is this optic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTuIncAdKbg';

'there's no interesting handguns';

'Was planning on buying my first ever handgun now that I'm finally of age (I know, I know). I was wondering what you guys would recommend in the realm of full sized pistols. I am strongly considering a Beretta 92FS but some of the CZ pistols have also caught my eye. I'm open to any suggestions including revolvers.';

'All guns should be Berettas, all Berettas should be 9mms, and all Beretta 9mms should be LTTs.';

'>>61466348
Fuck you burt this is going to drive me crazy.';

'Im happy now, found the firearm friendly bruhs :3 Wednesday possible customs visit but thats fine, next week the USA gets more than 1000bottle or autism
>>61465559
Can you provide a image? I would say seal the thread with Gold Guard but IDK what part we're talking about';

'>>61466447
Sig 226';

'>800 .38 brass cases for 50 bucks
Time to buy a shitload of primers, powder and bullets before election panic sets in and I'll be set for years.';

'>>61465701
Old spec 357 Mag was prescribed to every gun. Really don't need an overbuilt gun for it, just stronger than an old K frame.
There are two other pressure specs attributed to 357 Mag, but under different named. One was 357 Atomic and the other is 353 Casull.';

'>>61466471
Berettas are good but siggies are better';

'>>61465128
Been planning on replacin my two current carry guns with one do-it-all carry gun, and another thread convinced me that it's gonna have to be either the rami or the p01. Which one should I go with?';

'>>61467153
Rami i only in .40 SW right? I personally wouldn’t want such a small gun chambered in anything higher than 9, kinda pointless
the P-01 would be a smooth operator in 9mm';

'>>61466630
Anywhere non-burgers can grab your shit?';

'>>61465572
frenchpressindustries';

'I don't know what I'm doing with this shit but thanks for the retarded sling mount idea, Burt';

'>>61466630
You are one of the most important innovators of this sport. I say that sincerely. I love your product so much; you've really done a fabulous job.';

'>>61466447
Just get a Beretta 92FS, the 92X RDO, a CZ75BD, or an S&W M&P2.0 or some other polymer gun that feels good in your hand.
CZs feel really good in the hand but in every other way the Beretta 92 is a superior gun, and the Langdon Tactical stuff make it incredible while the Cajun Gun Works stuff for a CZ75 will cost twice as much and still not be as good as the Langdon shit because of quirks in the CZ75 design. You also specifically want a BD because the CZ75B is a DA/SA with no decocker which is retarded and the safety is kind of shitty in design on top of that.
If you decide to go poly striker shit, the M&P2.0 is possibly the best option. Extremely ergonomic and proven design with no quirks.';

'the staccato should fear the bul(l)';

'>>61467794
>literal jewish gun
No, I don't think so.';

'>>61467797
>the mutt should fear the jew
my point stands';

'>>61467819
I don't trust Israeli shit because the QC and lowbidding is Colt tier and the Israeli military is a joke with their gay ass Krav Maga and general extremely poor performance everywhere.';

'>>61467831
>I don't trust Israel
You can stop right there. I haven't trusted them since I found out they completely fucked up operation olympic games';

'>>61467840
You sure it wasn't the USS Liberty or perhaps the Havana Agreement?';

'>>61466447
CZ P-01s and PCRs are in stock right now which are extremely solid options for the price (~$550). Ignore the inevitable crowds of faggots telling you to cajunize it. You're not doing competitions and the stock triggers are fine for a beginner.';

'>>61467794
Very nice. I've got one on the way since they finally restocked yesterday.';

'>>61467932
>Ignore the inevitable crowds of faggots telling you to cajunize it. You're not doing competitions
A lot of competition features are creeping down into regular guns because they just make your gun better';

'>>61466447
Glock 47 MOS';

'>>61467794
Looks balanced, but you need co-witness sights. Stand alone dots is pants on head';

'>>61467997
Sure and when those features come standard that's pretty neat. Underageb& anon probably isn't chasing split times though, he's probably still figuring out his grip and trigger pull so he can reliably put groups on paper at 7 yards.
Unfortunately, CZ purchases always seem to come with an army of reddit fags ready to bleat that you NEED a $500 CGW install to make the gun usable. It's retarded and anon should be steered away from those types.';

'>>61468162
Isn't the CGW crap just a few springs and pins, which cost about $100?
Or he could get a Beretta and have a better gun out of the box that gets even better with a $70 trigger bar.';

'>>61465300
>>61465316
PX4 shilling comes from two places, one that it’s funny and two because it’s actually an underrated gun and better than the 92 in some ways.';

'>>61468193
CGW pins and springs is around that as the entry level but the full kit is around 300-350, professional installation from them and + tuning that can’t be done with just a kit is around 500';

'Coworker tells me 92 mags are picky, is this true or fudd? Are the only reliable ones OEM?.';

'>>61468201
The PX4 is fuck ugly though. It looks like some 80s sci fi gun that would shoot lazors.';

'>>61468224
It and the cx4 are both like that and its a mood. You. Either like it or you don't but the guns are perfectly fine functionally.';

'>>61468217
Use OEM Beretta marked ones or Mec Gar
MDS mags are okay but the ones have a finish that's inferior to OEM blued Beretta mags
Anything else is asking for trouble';

'>>61467794
>all that shit on a compact slide and barrel';

'>>61468217
MecGar magazines are king since they’re flush fit 18 rounders when Beretta OEM could only do 15, after that it’s Beretta OEM as they’re still reliable just not as high capacity or to reach 17-18 rounders they’re actually extended a little bit. Do not bother with any other brand, those old “mil spec” third party mags are actual trash.

Mecgars also pretty cheap. It’s also basically the same magazine body used in many other MecGar magazines, so extended baseplates for caniks may also work on them. Like Taylor Freelance canik baseplates work, +4 baseplates in about the same size as the +2 extended baseplate from MecGar.';

'>>61468224
The Px4 has grown on me and I like the look.';

'how does this make you feel?';

'>>61468472
is the pdp grip as comfy as the ppq? if so nothing';

'Smile and wait for the flash.';

'>>61467406
i make sure to get you guys access over ebay
>>61467657
I have 2 products, its too early to say that. Lets wait for the cleaners and the safty data sheet if those,lol. My next job is to test lead and copper removal, lets avoid gloves amd transform into Biden 2.0';

'>>61468472
even more german than i feel after paying Kraut tax';

'>>61467218
More power is pointless?';

'Is there a significant zero shift after removing and reattaching the red dot on a pistol? The gun is Shadow 2 OR with RMR plate and i need to remove it in order to clean the extractor as i'm having failure to extract issues';

'>>61465442
And please fucking stop with your queer parasocial bullshit.';

'>>61465442
Kill yourself faggot';

'>>61465128
ffffuck CZ why didn't you ever make a 5" RAMI. It would have been the perfect CZ. Why do manufacturers always single me, personally, out to disappoint.';

'>>61466447
I’ve owned both Beretta 92 and CZ75 (85 actually because lefty) and if I could trade my Beretta for a CZ I would. And that’s after putting a bunch of upgrade parts in the Beretta. Mags are easy to get for Beretta though if that’s what you care most about.';

'>>61468837
What would a full size RAMI do differently from a normal 75 besides look different?';

'>>61466620
Good, misery loves company. Did ya find out yet??? I need it!

>>61467603
lol I hope it works for you. If you find it's sliding forward and back you can redo it with a loop or knot to hold that ring where it is

>>61468800
There will be a tiny bit but not significant no. The screws are tapered (generally) so they will drag the optic back to the same spot upon tightening.';

'Friend wants a Glock, but NJ so no hope for carry, he just wants it for range and apartment. There's no reason not to go with the 34 right';

'>>61468975
tell him to get a better gun. Unless he wants to save money by over paying for aglock, there are better options for a range toy.';

'>>61468975
No reason not to get a 34. Show him pictures of 34s with X300s and other full-size lights. They’re sick as fuck';

'>>61468862
It's the GRIP anon, the most important part of a handgun. The RAMI has a slim, 1911-ish grip. That's why I want it, because I'm obsessed with thin handguns but don't like compacts. The regular CZ75 is fine but I don't like the grip as much as the RAMI. A 5" RAMI would be perfecto, but I'm sure what you're saying is why they never made. Those prejudiced bastards.';

'I got a glock in my rari';

'I have lost faith in glock. There have been major issues for at least 2 years of slimline glock failing to go into battery due to a faulty RSA. Leading to offset light primer strikes

Instead of announcing a recall or something, they just take your shipping money and warranty it, or send the new recoil spring assembly if you ask them to. Its the new sig "voluntary upgrade".

I recommend sticking to gen 3/4 glock or going for shadow systtems / psa dagger / zev / bul instead';

'>>61469130
I don’t own a Glock or a Ferrari, but I swear I think about this line at least once a month.';

'>>61469202
What's wrong with gen 5s';

'>>61469281
faulty parts, bad QC just like any other company, making things like mags more proprietary by inducing malfunctions with their new features like ambi slide catch';

'>>61469299
This is just retarded bullshit. I've seen thousands of gen 5s and I've never heard of QC issues outside the slimline.';

'>>61469333
too name one concrete example, magpul mags which worked fine in all other gen 26 induce endless malfunctions in gen 5 26';

'>>61468523
it is. it’s grippier due to a better texture though';

'>>61465128
is the p-01 safe for carry? apparently the shadow 2 compact is not';

'>>61469444
>checked
P-01 has a firing pin block and is drop safe. CZ removed the firing pin block from the Shadow 2 and S2C for a better trigger pull. You can tell if a CZ has it or not by looking at the rear slide serrations.';

'i got my first glock a little bit ago and i want to get a new extended barrel for it, but googling leads me to a bunch of sites
what are some good places to get glock parts?';

'>>61469516
got it, thanks anon';

'Does anyone have experience with the Mantis laser academy system? It looks kind of fun, and ammo isn't cheap. A few hundred shots and it basically would pay for itself.';

'>>61469663
You don’t need to pay money to dry fire, a red dot on your gun will give you more than enough feedback';

'>>61469444
they're both safe to carry';

'>>61469663
Its fun, the games alone are worth it imo. Helps maintain skill. Really great for practicing draws and other techniques that might not be allowed at an indoor range. It comes with a travel version too. Its no substitute for actual target practice.

I also really enjoy sitting down in my living with a youtube video in the background playing the hunt game.';

'>>61469663
No, I just dry fire snap caps at a paper target I pinned to the wall in my gym';

'Saw this in a previous thread, is this viable for cc (idgaf about printing)?';

'>>61469618
the glock store';

'>>61469956
>double malfunctions in your path';

'>>61469956
No. It's well known that .45 will knock a man down if it passes nearby. Two .45s would tear a man's skin off from a near miss and sonny let me tell you a jury would have a feel day with that one huh.

Bill
______________________________
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Hemi Cuda it don't get gooda.
"What's she doing out of the kitchen?" -OKBigBear47';

'>glonk when pdp exists
what causes this?';

'>>61470164
lack of education + memes';

'>>61470100
fuck i love boomer posting';

'>>61467153
Ramis are nice to have but are gonna be very hard to find, P-01 is better in every way besides looks, even if it does look nice.
>>61467218
It's in 9mm, too. That's what I have mine in.';

'Rate my collection';

'>>61461980
.357 mag out if 4" GP100 using 158gr jsp went through grill, heater core, radiator/fan and into the power steering fill up and oil fill up. Shot it some more with 9mm with a Glock 19 using standard Federal 124gr HST through the tail gate. Will post some more pics if any one is interested
>pic is .357 entering its way closer to the front cabin but stopped, I think, in the oil/power steering fluid fillups are
>vehicle is a 1998 Ram 1500 2x4 3.9l';

'>>61470457
2.5/5';

'>>61470457
Pistols are like the 90s kid triangle of food.';

'>>61470524
hurry up and get your company to offer me a job.';

'>>61470550
why?';

'>>61470560
it would be beneficial to everyone involved. i don't like your attitude though, offer rescinded';

'>>61470565
ok';

'>>61470524
Your writing scheme on those boxes makes me feel irrationally angry.';

'>>61470629
don't worry, my wife feels the same.';

'>>61470661
>G
>P.3
>15
>07
>0';

'>>61470692
Personally, I prefer a good B9E2RFRSTTA';

'>double action trigger pull on a Taurus 66 feels better than a S&W 586 costing 50% more
The mighty sure have fallen, huh?';

'>>61465465
>The GP100 is ugly
You take it back.';

'>>61470457
clp the screw';

'>>61467883
perhaps the levon affair, or king David Hotel bombing';

'>>61468850
then you're doing something wrong';

'>>61471167
Why the FUCK are the 7 shots always out of stock';

'>buy extended slide lock for my glock
>accidentally ordered gen 3 instead of gen5
>order another
>accidentally ordered non-extended gen5 slide lock';

'>>61470474
I am very interested post more maybe even a whole thread';

'>>61468712
I'd assume it's more like the "pointlessness" of .357 J-frames where shooting the gun becomes more of a chore than whatever anecdotal benefits literally any cartridge besides 9mm offer.';

'I live in California but I want to get a 1911. What are my options.';

'>>61471554
>anecdotal';

'>>61471577
Have you considered not living in California?';

'>>61471643
I have, but I have 7 years left on my mortgage.';

'>>61471519
I know you can send them back, so ultimately no harm, but have some coffee and get it together anon';

'>>61471167
No. Full underlugs look like shit without a design element on the topstrap, like the Python's vent rib, to draw your eye away from it. The GP100 would unironically look better with a Super Redhawk-style raw-ass barrel jutting unceremoniously from a frame extension protecting the ejector rod.';

'>>61471577
Suicide';

'may as well post here
hello hg. what self defense load do you use in your carry gun? ive got 124gr +p speer golds dots in my beretta';

'>>61471873
Critical defense in my short barreled handguns and critical duty in all the bigguns';

'>>61464412
the 19x has the best factory trigger of any glock';

'>>61471873
>ive got 124gr +p speer golds dots in my beretta
Same but in my Glock.';

'>>61471577
Kimber makes the only on roster 10mm 1911.
I've never tried to buy a .45 1911 that wasn't C&R so I can't really help you there.';

'>>61467794
gross';

'>>61471855
agree. the other thing is they round off the lug at the barrel instead of having it flush with the end of the barrel. The 686 does this and it looks much better but still not as nice as the python.';

'>>61466447
to add on to others recommending CZ-75's, do not get the Omega model. the triggers are very hit or miss and the aftermarket for that trigger is smaller and more expensive.
t. bought a 75o sight unseen as my first handgun because I was retarded. now I wish i had just gotten a BD';

'>>61461980

Vaqueros are fucking gay
Get a uberti/camorra like a man';

'I'm trying to find a good holster for my PDP F 4". I plan on getting a light which affects the holster I get, but I'm not 100% sure on a light yet. Was looking at Trex Arms holsters but they only take specific lights. I was looking at the Baldur S as well. What would you anons recommend? Also I do not want to appendix carry, and I plan on getting a red dot but I've never used one before and would need to train with it.';

'>>61472179
X300T-B and whatever T. rex Arms holster you were looking at.';

'>>61472196
No thank you, too big, too pricey. After some initial research, I like the smaller sized lights that are rechargeable.';

'>>61471873
147 gr mystery meat totally not government contract over run M1153 +P+ Ranger T like projectile

https://www.sgammo.com/product/9mm-luger-ammo/500-round-case-9mm-high-pressure-147-grain-jacketed-hollow-point-winchester-d';

'>>61471631
>jpg
inappropriate for this image';

'>>61471873
Federal HST 124gr +P

>>61472196
That's quite a big light for the PDP-Female. TLR7 is probably the way to go.

>>61472222
Checked and really the only one worth a shit recently is the new surefire one but that will also be pricey. So TLR7. Rechargeable is dumb, just get one with batteries that are rechargeable.';

'>>61471855
>Full underlugs look like shit
I strongly feel the same way about half lug revolvers';

'>>61472229
I-its not for females! It's for Fighters like me!';

'>>61472248
Sorry you're wrong; get well soon.
Imagine this fucking thing with a full underlug adding that much visual weight to the front of the gun—no thanks.';

'>>61472248
>>61472281
And if you can't imagine, here.';

'would it be a good idea to make the cz s2c my first handgun? (and yes I want to carry it at some point)';

'>>61472305
I'd lean toward a Glock 19 and spending the rest on ammo and/or a red dot, but if the Shadow 2 Compact is what excites you and makes you want to practice with it, there's not really anything wrong with it. Carry-wise, it's smaller and lighter than, and just as drop-safe as, a 1911, and people carry those all the time.';

'>>61470100

Hehe

These kids with their BLOCKS and plastic will never know AMERICAN STEEL. My neighbor's boy showed me his PLASTIC Smith and Wesson and I almost cried.

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'>>61471631
>150gr going 1225 fps from a 1.9" barrel
>inb3 you find some retarded example of a 3.5" j-frame or some retarded example of frame-bending ammo nobody uses
>inb4 even that difference matters
>inb5 greentexting inb6

>>61472305
If you're aware of its flaw and carry it accordingly no not really. Especially if you like it. But idk why you would when the P-01 exists which is basically the same thing minus flaw and plus a different flaw lol';

'>>61472367
>>150gr going 1225 fps from a 1.9" barrel
Retard. That's .40 cal in a 3.7" barrel.';

'Considering how they are these days, why DOESN'T Smith & Wesson MIM their frames? According to their own Kool-Aid, it's just as good as real steel, and they make plenty of guns out of aluminum and shit, so...';

'>>61472377
too stuck in their own ways or something?';

'>>61463878
>Not making your own

>>61466447
Go to a fun store and try holding a few. Better would be to rent some. I'd suggest P-01 if you think you might CC.

>>61468193
It's $40 at most if you're doing the main spring and some preventative/replacement parts that you won't need for a year.
Hammer replacement is where it starts getting expensive.

>>61469101
You're allowed to put a pair of thin grips on a 75

>>61472179
Pick a light that will go in some of the more recent "generic" light bearing holsters, like PHIster Floodlight2 (you don't need the bondage rig) and whatever numerous tryhard places made.
I usually suggest Legacy Firearms Co if you have a specific combination. Looks like Light Bearing Cronus would be 'good' for strong side, but most of their designs are for appendix.';

'>>61472377

I fucking can't stand so many 1911faggots that talk about how great forged parts are but then backpedal when you mention Springfields are chock-full of MIM.

>SPRINGFIELD MAKES JUST AS GOOD MIM!
>But I change all my parts out for Wilson Bulletproof or EGW parts
>Yeah, buy the Springfield instead of that shitty FOREIGN 1911 with all milled/forged parts.';

'>>61472281
>>61472302
I just like the full lug bros
I probably won't ever have a revolver longer than 4 inches though, I want to be able to carry the stupid thing';

'undefined';

'>>61472374
Ya should have specified. I'm expecting to see 165gr or 180gr when talking about .40 where revolver bullets come in all kinds of crazy nonstandard weights. I've never heard of 150gr .40, and homeboy you're quoting was talking about .357, regardless of the reply chain before that

>>61472377
MIM is not an appropriate process for a frame, casting and forging are typically the processes used. S&W has a forging division so why wouldn't they use the process they've long ago paid off';

'>>61472350
I was looking at the glock 19 for how ubiquitous it is, but I feel like the p10 or p 07 would be a better choice overall for myself the reason why I'm leaning towards the s2c is that a lot of retailers just got a bunch in stock and wanted to get one before they're gone for another 2-4 months

>>61472367
What's the tradeoff between the p 01 and the s2c other than price?';

'>>61472441
MIM isn't an appropriate process for any part of a revolver; apologists will talk about its use in aircraft and car parts, but those parts are subject to QC processes that would delete the cost savings associated with MIMing, say, a hammer, and—if you're inclined to give S&W the benefit of the doubt and assume that's why they aren't passing said cost savings on to the consumer—probably aren't compatible with the manufacturing workflow of a company that can't even reliably make sure their barrels are on straight.';

'>>61472374
>Retard. That's .40 cal in a 3.7" barrel.
I don't think I've ever heard of a 150gr handgun bullet, in any caliber.';

'>>61472530
>I don't think I've ever heard of a 150gr handgun bullet, in any caliber.';

'>>61472472
Mildly worse trigger on the P-01 (correctable with CGW hammer and spring), the possibility of eventually wearing out the firing pin retaining pin (also correctable or just replace it cheaply whenever), and you go from worthless safety on a DA/SA to useful decocker on a DA/SA. I guess the rail is different too but I doubt that'll limit many light choices

>>61472507
That same logic could be applied to any process. Voids in casting going unnoticed, machining jigs set up improperly resulting in batches lost, etc. QC doesn't apply exclusively to MIM

>>61472530
.308 comes to mind but yeah that's an oddball';

'>>61472472
I wouldn't buy a S2C—a handgun that, by its nature, costs as much as some rifles—just for FOMO reasons, especially not as your first handgun.
You will eventually buy a G19, or some other Glock-brand Glock, just to see what all the hype is about, so you might as well get it out of the way.';

'>>61472530
Cor Bon jhp. Now you've heard of it.';

'>>61465187
Lol my 10/22 is stained with that smell. Like 98% of the ammo I shoot from it is Aguila. It's also filthy. Works well when I'm not lazy and actually do a good clean when I should. If not the filth gums up the gun and mags lol.';

'>>61472562
I suppose the real problem is the 1:1 transition from drop-forged steel parts to MIM ones with the behaviorally-implied assumption that there would be no teething issues or the like, akin to all the polymer AR lowers that merely reproduced the original part in plastic and snapped in half under the buffer tube threads accordingly.';

'>>61472581
would it fuck up my fundamentals that bad or is it by cost alone, It's not just fomo for me I just feel that it can fulfill multiple roles without getting 5 different handguns for 5 different purposes';

'>>61472661
The fundamentals are the same for all handguns—point it at the spot on the target where you want the bullet to go and press the trigger straight rearwards—it's literally just $1300 MSRP for the S2C vs ~$600 for the Glock and spending the rest on literally anything else.
Again, if the S2C turns you on and is what you need to be motivated to actually take the gun to the range consistently, that's more important than money.';

'>>61466348
Here's a better look, at the very least. I think I can make out "Made In China" or "Made In Korea". And of course the model, I can make out "Model XX-XXX" but NOT THE FUCKING NUMBERS. Fuck you Burt now I want to know. Probably some random Alibaba bullshit lol. Just like that Something-Fire scope I found on Amazon years ago with the pic of the (extremely photoshopped) view through the reticle aiming at "wolves" (wolf-ish looking puppies).';

'>>61466447
I have a 10+ year old 92FS I bought used. Pretty nice. IMO very comfy to shoot, little recoil. Good for beginner handgun shooters no doubt. Never shot a CZ but would like to.';

'>>61472727
If it helps, I already looked on Amazon and Evike and couldn't find anything..';

'>>61472717
Fair enough, I'll sit on it for a bit';

'>>61472746
All I found is this Korean military FC1 red dot which I didn't know existed. Trying google lens...';

'>>61472727
I was able to make out about that much >>61468898 but I also had no luck with searches. I sent an email to DI Optical, the only Korean red dot maker I know, to ask if it's one of their models but it's not listed on either of their sites.

>>61472787
Those are actually really excellent optics, it's a shame they stopped importing them. Lens is EOTech quality with a Burris price. Now I need this mystery mini man to go with it!';

'>>61472727
Dong-In doesn't have anything like that in their current lineup.';

'>>61472727
>>61472787
It occurred to me, why not just ask the guy in the video lol? I sent an email, will report back with what he says. But while I was looking at his site I learned apparently he's the inventor of the CP33 and it's quad stack magazine, among other Lelkek innovations like the CMR, PMR and SU22!
https://tobiasarms.com/about/

So no wonder he has some oddball optic on his oddball quadstack prototype, this guy is half the reason Kocaine-tek has the reputation it has for insane designs';

'>>61466348
>>61468898
10:30...I think we can safely say:
>Model: xx-xxx (#K-MG1?)
>S/N #####-####
>MADE IN KOREA

>>61472901
Yeah lol I was going to ask why no one was doing that. I didn't remember who it was though so I didn't want to do that before combing the video with my [<,] and [>.] keys to go frame by frame when I saw anything of interest.';

'>>61472472
P-01 is decock only, with a firing pin block and lacks an optic cut.
S2c is manual safety, without a firing pin block
So unlike a normal 75B, where some might still carry it decocked and not locked, you shouldn't do this with a S2compact. And at the price point, you may as well get an 2011 or 1911 or even just settle with a CSX. Depends on if you value DA being available as a failure mode option instead of being the safety.

>>61472661
The attributes you want in a CC gun are usually at odds with what you want in a plinker and especially a race gun.
The P-01 is $650 on a bad day. You would have to get an optic cut, but then you would have an option to direct mount instead of using a plate, if you don't mind the wait times.

Still up to you. If you need it you need it, but you don't need to waste money on a fucking glock.';

'New thread
>>61472978

>>61472978

>>61472978

>>61472978';

'>>61472950
>The attributes you want in a CC gun are usually at odds with what you want in a plinker and especially a race gun.
Generally, but as long as it's less than 3 lbs and not too large to tolerate, it's tolerable—if you can tolerate it.';

'>>61471215
No';

'>>61473782
...Boil the screw?';

'>>61470457
>cheap, poorly maintained guns
What are you expecting to hear, exactly? You're probably not gonna hear it.';

'>>61472179
Just keep it in your purse';

'>>61472302
Yeah that one looks better';

'>>61471368
They only produce them occasionally, but you can find them around on online shops and gunbroker.';