'>5.7 is a fine round for smg's and handguns.
>bullpups are good, they're just strange to get used to
>the ukraine war is boring
>battleships should be brought back due to the increased number of anti-missile systems being deployed';

'>>61464593
I think future warships will probably be cannon focused with said cannons being either railgun or ETC so they can fire hypervelocity.';

'There is nothing wrong with the AR-15 charging handle.';

'>>61464602
>USS Missouri with railguns
A man can dream
>>61464629
I don't like it. It feels strange and flimsily to me.';

'>>61464560
>squads should have designated scouts running small patrols in front of the squad formation
this only existed at the start of the war and was dropped from mid-war manuals because it was found it was never used in practice

> the idea of fireteams following in travelling overwatch or bounding the whole way is stupid and gay
between a squad that can split up into independent fire teams and a squad that operates as s single mass of men, the former wins every time';

'there will never be a happening, s will never htf, prepping is stupid and a waste of money';

'Unpopular opinion threads are usually shit because it's just people spewing the most retarded contrarian opinions in attempt to one up each other or just flat out bait';

'>>61464639
>pointmen were never used during the war
I don't know about that anon.';

'>>61464593
last one is retarded, guns have a fraction of the range of missiles and no anti-missle system is even close to perfect.';

'>>61464691
haha laser goes pew pew';

'>>61464705
*launches 4 missiles at once*
>>61464682
pointman is just the guy at the front of the formation looking ahead, he's not a scout, he's a part of the formation.';

'>>61464560
>and that they were white fighting to have their own countries in Africa
But the majority of the population were black Africans';

'>>61464730
missiles detected by AWAC
1 missile falls into the ocean due to EW
1 missile intercepted by CAP
1 more missile intercepted by counter-missiles
last missile intercepted by the laser';

'>>61464747
>moving to position to fire your gun on enemy shit
>4 missiles inbound
>1 missile falls into ocean due to EW
>1 missile intercepted by CAP
>1 more missile intercepted by counter-missiles
>last missile intercepted by the laser
*Still 500 miles away from enemy ship*
>4 more missiles inbound
>1 missile falls into ocean due to EW
>1 missile intercepted by CAP
>1 more missile intercepted by counter-missiles
>last missile intercepted by the laser
*Still 475 miles away from enemy ship*
repeat ad nauseam until they get a hit.';

'>>61464560
>NVGs are really cool but completely unnecessary for any kind of civil unrest
>Bullpups are only held back by price and familiarity on the civilian market
>Too many people base their decisions off what the military uses or chooses not to use
>9mm only survives by institutional inertia alone, 30SC does its job but better if you want capacity and 40 is way more effective in terms of expansion and penetration while fitting in the same size frames
>RMRs are very useful but not essential
>Lights, especially on home defense weapons are essential, no amount of cope will change that fact
>People have staked too much of their personality on their guns. The M4 is leaving service, get over it
>It's not only acceptable but in some cases weird if you don't spend more on your optic than your gun
>You will always be the least accurate element of any gun, 99% of missed shots are user error. Complaining about muh MOA is pointless because most people are not going to shoot tighter than 3-4" at 100 yards
>This board died well over a decade ago, the elections and the war merely pissed on the grave
>You're far more likely to die from health-related issues than in a gunfight, live healthier and you may live to see one
>Youtube and other social media platforms have spread more misinformation regarding guns and military equipment than information';

'>>61464730
>pointman is just the guy at the front of the formation looking ahead
That's a really good way to walk into a killzone if that's your take on what a pointman is.';

'>>61464826
>Lights, especially on home defense weapons are essential, no amount of cope will change that fact
nigga just turn on the lights if you're a normie. Except for me, I base my home defense strategy off of my years experience in the Navy Seals, SOCOM US Navy Seals, the first game. I'm gonna sneak through the shadows the whole time.';

'>>61464826
>>This board died well over a decade ago, the elections and the war merely pissed on the grave
I hope this isn't an unpopular opinion
>>You're far more likely to die from health-related issues than in a gunfight, live healthier and you may live to see one
strong agree, although I usually use car accidents as an analogy, if you're sperging out on defensive guns instead of defensive driving and vehcile crash safety, just reconigze that and try to devote your gun sperging to more interesting guns than just the optimal CC or HD gun.
>>61464832
well it worked in WWII and in what situation will it be safe for one guy to walk into, but not the whole squad?
For killzones you just want to avoid them entirely and if that's no possible, bounding as a fire team is better because you have people supporting you.
>>61464848
>light switch is on the other side of the room
nothing personnel kiddo';

'>>61464560
>Fucktards rocking micro rigs and no plates LARPing as minutemen/prepared citizens will 9/10 be clapped during the boog/civil war/great airsoft event. I’d rather have a 20lb loaded plate carrier over multiple sucking chest wounds.
>Retards who buy shitty surplus guns and try to act like they’re “just as good” for CCW or duty weapons deserve to have their weapons jam during critical moments.
>A PSA freedom is perfectly fine for a fighting rifle if you throw in a reputable BCG. Save money and throw in a CHF/CL barrel that’s on sale down the road if you’re that worried about having to mag dump 6k rounds in a gun fight.
>/k/ is the only board where the comedy/information is stuck in a time loop where it never improves.
>Fallout New Vegas is a shit game that is only slightly bearable if you mod it into a new game completely.
>You can be Pro 2nd Amendment and also not wanting your enemy armed as well.
>Meme builds are retarded as fuck';

'>>61465141
>I’d rather have a 20lb loaded plate carrier over multiple sucking chest wounds
I'd rather be able to blend back into the civilian population than be arrested and charged with domestic terrorism.';

'>>61465141
>>Fallout New Vegas is a shit game that is only slightly bearable if you mod it into a new game completely
It does have some nice stories though. It's probably the only other game besides Deus Ex where I can overlook it's bad gameplay for its writing';

'>>61465124
the whole point of the scouts in the squad was so that they would run area/point reconnaissance or would be the ones to bound out first while still being able to hide. It only takes a handful of guys in a group to make that group impossible to sneak around. Two dudes snooping around is a lot easier than four, and eight to nine is pretty much not happening.';

'>>61465173
>the whole point of the scouts in the squad was so that they would run area/point reconnaissance or would be the ones to bound out first while still being able to hide. It only takes a handful of guys in a group to make that group impossible to sneak around.
the scout section was not practical and quickly dropped

>Two dudes snooping around is a lot easier than four, and eight to nine is pretty much not happening.
modern day fire-teams is literally just an evolution of WW2 tactics
WW2 squads essentially maneuvered as a giant fireteam, one squad fires while one squad maneuvers, the large size of the units involved due to the lack of experienced NCOs and the large amount of men in a single space

modern fireteams evolved out of that, with the maneuvering elements being reduced down to squads because they were finally able to re-organize their NCO selection
as well as being a necessity due to the vastly smaller army they had after the war';

'>>61465149
Sorry, I couldn’t hear you over the sound of your shallow coughs as your own blood fills your lung cavity.';

'>>61465245
I didn't realize inmates at Guantanamo got screen time.';

'>>61465169
I couldn’t enjoy the story. The empty unfinished map, unusable weapons, retarded AI, and buggy ass game made immersion impossible.';

'>>61465173
>Two dudes snooping around is a lot easier than four
no, hardly at all really. If the enemy is currently observing the area, it's not gonna matter and if they're not, the human eye is best at picking up movement and two guys moving around isn't going to attract much less attention than four. Even just ONE guy moving around is going to attract attention.

Also if you're spotted/fired upon, the thing to do is to go prone and if you're too close to the enemy for that to really be effective, than it's better to just have more guys who can shoot back.

And the one memoir off the top of my head that talked a fair bit about scouting (Unpublished Activities of WWII by Earl Roberts). Mentioned how their scouting was done by 6-8 guys hand picked across the platoon and it was something they'd do after having established a defensive position to get more information about what was beyond then. When they did platoon movements they used a point man and moved as squads.
>>61465149
total meme, if you think the military wouldn't be willing to round up any suspicious MAM in the vicinity of the attack, you've gotta surprise coming if le boog actually happens.';

'>liking Rhodies because they're white
destitute
>liking Rhodies because they killed communists
prosperous';

'>>61464560
the rebels in any kind of boog would get their shit pushed in by the government.

>muh Iraq and Afghanistan
ignoring the fact that Afghanistan has been waging tribal warfare with each other for literally forever and the initial Iraq insurgents were the entirety of the Iraqi army who were fired and had full access to the Iraqi military arsenal because the US fired them before securing it. Meanwhile the typical American works retail or an office job and hasn't been in a fight since middle school.

The main thing is that in Iraq and Afghanistan, the only people and equipment the US had were the people and shit they transported to the other side of the world. Whereas in the US they'll have access to all domestic law enforcement capabilities plus the US military. For example, the Boston bombings, The suspects weren't even at the scene at the time it happened and they were apprehended in 3 days. And that was pretty much a perfect lone wolf attack with only two brothers involved, no traveling and using cell phones or the internet to talk with people throughout a city or county. Additionally within hours of the bombing hundreds of LE were participating in the manhunt for the bombers. At one point it was near 10k which is almost the number of US troops at the second battle of falujah.

At the end of the day, 99% of working vehicles are registered with the government and tied to an owner. All citizens have a photo id, which the US didn't have for Iraq and Afghanistan. State and and large city LE have helicopters and drones for surveillance.

Also Americans are 100% economically dependent on "the system". Unlike the Pashtun tribesmen, the US govt could easily cut off supplies to a problem area and only hand out supplies to people who consent to having their homes, electronic devices and vehicles searched, etc. All that shit about how everything would shut down after 48 hours without trucking works both ways.';

'>>61465149
>things mohammed's dead cousin said in 2004
You're not blending anywhere carrying a rifle, no hiding it in a backpack doesn't work, yes the new privates are going to collect your brass for fingerprints just in case, yes we dip blood trails for the DNA, and yes, rounding up everyone in a 3 block radius and getting out the gunpowder residue kits on their fingers is a thing.
Google WAMI.';

'>>61465277
>nigga doesn't know about break contact';

'>>61465489
>implying the Taliban never adjusted their tactics for this and would simply leave
>implying gunpowder residue is enough to hold anyone accountable in an environment where everyone's walking around with a gun

Is this GWOT vet cope?';

'>>61465489
Using conventional reconnaissance to try to track unconventional forces is retarded and that shit never had any real effect in Iraq or Afghanistan. Even drones being sent out to purposely look for Taliban movements leading up to the battle of Wanat fucking failed. If you don't have civvie connections and spies, you don't have intel on insurgents. A drone isn't gonna detect a guy no different than anyone else who in reality is on his way to the weapon cache and then to the ambush position.';

'>>61464560
>WW2 was the last major war that will ever be fought barring an act of god or abject insanity. The interlinked global economy makes it impossible, American hegemony makes it impossible, and every day that passes the world market only grows more intertwined, and war even less worth it as the very things you'd gain from conquest are destroyed in the act of doing so

If a super strong solar flare or something hits us then all bets are off but as things stand? There won't be a WW3 unless we go interplanetary.';

'>>61465586
>A drone isn't gonna detect a guy no different than anyone else who in reality is on his way to the weapon cache and then to the ambush position.
Pre-butted. Google WAMI.';

'>>61465560
yeah which involves bounding';

'>>61465586
>If you don't have civvie connections and spies
that's a massive advantage the US would actually have in a civil war/rebellion. The Afghan and Iraq wars were extremely ethnic/religious from their point of view, whereas in the US every libtard would be on the side of the govt.';

'>harsh environment produces superior warriors is the gayest myth
>insurgency isn’t the perfect solution to fighting a superior enemy, it’s a last ditch desperation tactic';

'>>61465141
>/k/ is the only board where the comedy/information is stuck in a time loop where it never improves.
Indeed. Famas posting and Ivan were never funny
>Fallout New Vegas is a shit game that is only slightly bearable if you mod it into a new game completely.
I agree completely, but its also one of the best games of the last 15 years. Videogames are dogshit and I don't see them getting better.
>You can be Pro 2nd Amendment and also not wanting your enemy armed as well.
The 2nd was written back when America was for white protestants, and this was before Irish were considered white. So yes, to be a 2nd amendment absolutist would necessitate not applying it universally. Dangerous precedent though.';

'>>61464560
>magdumping around corners and frag grenades will always be superior to SOF fluid dynamic high speed low drag shit
This shouldn't be an unpopular opinion, it's just what developed from 20 years of policing actions in the sandbox. Even when practicing MOUT we were regularly told the first and even second guy in were highly likely to be wounded or killed. Every hall and doorway in a house is a killzone and should be swept with fire and grenades before someone has to go in';

'>>61464593
Battleships should be brought back, but with only one main battery (this exists for shore bombardment) Otherwise they are packed to the brim with antiship missiles, defensive measures, and other cool toys for surface actions.';

'>>61464770
>fires battery of it's own ASMs at guys firing ASMs at him
>repeat until one side is out of ammo
It's an interesting concept';

'>>61465743
>20 years of policing actions in the sandbox.
*Where you couldn't frag every room because civvies

FTFY';

'>>61465756
the problem with that is that carriers and cruise missiles will still do a better job of shore bombardment.
>>61465763
well instead of firing guns at each other until one side get's a lucky hit, it's just them spamming missiles at each other until one of them gets and unlucky miss with their counter missile systems.';

'>>61465633
Counter - You would have ANA and ANP levels of insiders and corruption as well.';

'>>61465463
The war will be won without the masses. They do not produce anything of value and are of no use to anyone. The war is not about them it is about the people waging it.';

'>>61465251
Never went there, but waterboarding at Guantansmo bay sounds like fun in the sun';

'>>61465141
You're never gonna be in a gunfight. If you find yourself in one you already fucked up. Sure armor can help but in SHTF your main goal is avoiding combat entirely to the point armor is almost useless. Almost. The chest rig guys have the better approach but they'd do well with a slick carrier with plates in reserve';

'>>61465613
>>61465613
Tunnels, a change of clothes, and blending in with populations will take care of that. You can also shoot the damn planes down.';

'Pistols and SBRs are the only practical firearms, everything else is a toy';

'The Ukraine war killed this board. You can’t criticize Ukraine without faggots who have barely been here a year reading off a script calling you a shill';

'>>61465141
Would add you should swap for a charging handle that wont bend';

'>>61464560
>no amount of gear makes up for physical fitness, if you can't at least hike hard trails, loaded up, without getting winded, you're going to get fucking killed
>chest rigs and other unarmored shit is really good if you have immediate medical aid, but if you're in shit city away from a hospital, a chest seal is not going to keep you alive while you wait an hour for evac to a trauma center
>helmets aren't tryhard, a ballistic helmet with NODs or at least earpro is god-tier for home defense since you get illumination, protection, and earpro from a three second donning
>gear comes and goes, but SOP is forever. if your mission aligns with someone's SOP, there's no reason to get creative
>the most dangerous person in a "civil war" or "civil unrest" situation is somebody with a suppressed takedown rifle and like three rounds of subsonic ammunition in a construction toolbag, that's wearing a day-glo vest and has a clipboard, NOT a high speed operator
>5.7 has been adopted by multiple platforms and is now exempt from the "niche round, expensive, gay" stigma
>bullpups are really fun and nice looking and don't have the drawbacks that people say they do; they're also a tremendous fucking pain to use while wearing a plate carrier and assault pack
>this board was killed by redditards spamming "smellyabanskabriskov is now under ukraine control after the khabrashitovpissyacockshitov offensive" then calling anyone bored with the 13 simultaneous threads vatniks and ziggers
>drones are gay and stupid and their utility for anything other than ISR and surgical strikes is vastly overstated
>some PSA rifles are better than LMTs. some LMTs are better than PSA. the whole industry has a huge issue with QC
>NODs are a really good investment, but you'll probably never use them
>training on a range in your gear is a worse time investment than just finding empty land and humping your shit around for hours to see if you get hotspots/shit breaks/you're not fit';

'>>61464560
Israel is incapable of designing a good firearm.
Uzi, actually bad with an overcomplicated ratchet mechanism to deal with the designer being too dumb to make a drop safe SMG. Galil, overpriced AK that solves none of the problems. Tavor, inaccurate happy meal plastic piece of shit. Negev, came out after the FN Minimi but is still an overweight hog. Etc.

Israel absolutely sucks at doing any kind of military engineering that isn't just taking American money and spending it on SAMs.';

'>>61468319
>>drones are gay and stupid
nah, they're a massive game changer, right now they're in a similar state as tanks in WWI (although granted drones won't have the strategic impact of tanks, but do/will tactically).
Being able to have a recon drone at the squad level is a big deal. The drone drops and kamikaze drones are just a bonus, but recon element is massive.

Another aspect where they're becoming a game changer is larger vehicles like boats, tankettes and planes. A shitload of space and equipment is dedicated to crew livability, being able to get rid of a crew and have a smaller vehicle will be a big deal. We're already seeing this in Ukraine with those little drone kamikaze boats knocking out full size war ships.

As for tankettes, imagine a vehicle a quarter of the size of a bradley with the same bushmaster gun and/or tow missiles being able to pop over ridge lines or start assaults without endangering any soldiers.
>>NODs are a really good investment, but you'll probably never use them
I think that kind of makes them a bad investment by definition lol.';

'>>61464629
you are supposed to be right when you make these comments.';

'>>61464560
Minmaxxing is only useful to a certain degree and there is no winner take all weapon as it completely depends on the physical and marksman capabilities of a shooter.

Hyper familiarity with whatever platform suits your desires is a far better soldier than a boiler plate Gucci gear AR glock OP.';

'>>61464629
I tried my buddies improved ambidextrous handle and oh man did it make a difference. Need to get one soon.';

'>Rifle suppressors really have no practical use other than hearing comfort domestically.
>Sub-sonic is a meme and doesn't actually have any real benefits, simply don't miss.
>Mass shootings unironically are a decent way to gauge a firearms practicality in both cost and lethality.
>Handguns are largely a preference and spending a large sum of money on one wont make you shoot better.
>The ATF isn't this all seeing boogeyman and a lot of you are just cowards.';

'>>61464826
Fine on everything but home defense light. The need varies on home orientation, gun, situation, eye sight, and ambient light throughout the night. Also, unless you have multiple people living in your house, there’s no need to hunt and sweep your home if you think someone broke in. Just pick a good defensive spot and hold it.';

'>>61465124
>light switch
Imagine not using a clapper then turning he lights on by clapping your asscheeks while keeping both hands on your weapon. Ngmi';

'>>61468555
checked and I KNEEL';

'>>61468538
>Rifle suppressors really have no practical use other than hearing comfort domestically
they significantly reduce concussion and signature, if anything suppressors' best use is actually outside of 300 yards instead of next to the gun
>The ATF isn't this all seeing boogeyman and a lot of you are just cowards.
actually agree with this
there was some case about a guy buying and selling guns with the whole "when do you need an FFL"
the ATF raided him and he got shot, but digging deeper I was trying to figure out where the warrant came from and apparently he had been buying like fifteen guns at a time at shows, and the ATF had bought like four guns from him in a month
if you're dumb enough to buy stupid shit attached to your credit card online, or actually do fucking retarded shit, the ATF will get you';

'The kinetic energy of most rounds is too insignificant to cause serious damage to a person wearing adequate body armor.';

'>>61468538
>Mass shootings unironically are a decent way to gauge a firearms practicality';

'After the general adoption of self loading pistols and assault/battle rifles no choice of design or caliber has had any significant impact on the outcome of any conflict.';

'>>61464560
>WWII era US infantry TTP's>modern era US infantry TTP's, squads should have designated scouts running small patrols in front of the squad formation, the idea of fireteams following in travelling overwatch or bounding the whole way is stupid and gay
no that's retarded
why would you have a guy whose entire job is "getting shot"?
the point is "not getting shot"
also what is combined arms you retard';

'>>61465675
in order to not apply it universally you need to consider the people you exclude "not people" which we really can't do in the current legal environment';

'>>61464560
>Post your unpopular opinions
I genuinely find the AR15 and its various forms as well as the AK and its various forms to be fucking garbage for anyone who loves shooting. Absolute thrash designed to be as cheap to make and manufacture as possible to arm badly trained cold war manlet conscripts who are unskilled and have no hope of hitting anything past 300M anyway, or even snap shooting or point shooting well ever.';

'>>61465141
>be clapped during the boog/civil war/
Like you get clapped when you get on the special needs bus for drinking kremlin kool aid fantasies?';

'>>61465675
>The 2nd was written back when America was for white protestants, and this was before Irish were considered white. So yes, to be a 2nd amendment absolutist would necessitate not applying it universally. Dangerous precedent though.
I think that's perfectly acceptable as long a low church protestant fundamentalists are disarmed in majority Catholic nations or nations where Catholics are the largest religious group along with disarming other muslims, hindus and other non Catholics.';

'>>61465675
>The 2nd was written back when America was for white protestants, and this was before Irish were considered white.
"
As George Washington remarked of his Irish soldiers: "When our friendless standards were first unfurled, who were the strangers who first mustered around our staff? Erin’s generous sons. Ireland, thou friend of my country in my most friendless days..."
https://twitter.com/IrelandEmbUSA/status/1411462897448927238
Fundamentalist protestants are no more compatible with democracy and rule of law than fundamentalist muslims and never have been which is exactly why the US constitution was created.
"';

'>>61464560
WARCRIME, MIGHT DROP NAPALM ON THE 'JECTS';

'The only home defense meta that actually exists is
>have a gun somewhere where you can actually reach it
>have a gun that probably won't jam
>don't be afraid to use it

If you're dealing with multiple intruders that are determined enough that they won't scatter the very second they're fired at, you either tried fuck over a Mexican cartel or you're doing a domestic terrorism and you're fucking dead no matter the amount of tacticool shit you've consooomed.';

'>>61469181
what about insurgents though?';

'>>61465489
>gunpowder residue
Impossible to determine if the person in question had handled anything with nitrates in it or if they shot a gun. You're going to get anyone who handled cured meats or was gardening as well. GSR is bullshit in the US.';

'>>61469181
Only civilians should.
Police and military can do with foam batons and plastic shields.';

'>>61468365
I genuinely enjoyed the galil and appreciated the design elements based around the enviroment. I did security work in capetown and live in arizona. It's an improvement over the ak in desert enviroments to me';

'>>61469181
You're right, they should be forced to own them';

'>>61464826
Gun choice and handwriting phenotype check failed, with prejudice';

'>>61473580
>t. armlet';

'>>61473580
yo wtf, I didn't read the note before, it straight up looks like a girl's handwritting.
he must be a female to male tranny or something.';

'>>61465141
>You can be Pro 2nd Amendment and also not wanting your enemy armed as well.
>You can be Pro 1st Amendment and also want to suppress the opinions of your enemies
>You can be Pro 5th Amendment and also be in favour of police beating confessions out of your enemies
Statements dreamt up by the utterly deranged.';

'Gun stabilization on an IFV doesn’t matter. If you have to shoot at something with the main gun you are going to be stopped anyway';

'>>61474939
gun stabilizer helps enormously when firing from short stops
it drastically reduces how much correction you need to when you stop moving and even if you dont fire on the move, just keeping the gun on target means that you can fire immediately when halting
staying in turret down to spot targets and then firing from hull down before reversing back into cover is much easier when you are stabilized for the same reason';

'>>61474939
>Gun stabilization on an IFV doesn’t matter.
It absolutely matters and that’s why all modern IFVs have one.
>If you have to shoot at something with the main gun you are going to be stopped anyway
Can you back this up with something? There are plenty of videos of IFVs in combat shooting while on the move.';

'>>61474970
Oh looks it’s the schizo who obsessed over warriortard again. Please tell me what was wrong about either of these replies >>61474946
>>61474949';

'Firearms in society are not only probably, but very likely, a big net negative and the yuropoors got it right. We can go screaming our freedoms and muh niggers but somehow the euros get their niggers and muzzies not to shoot people. But we're so blinded by red vs blue it'll never change to a yuro style loicense (that allows not retarded gun owners and keeps retards and niggers out).';

'>>61474980
That dude has been going off the rails lately';

'>>61474980
Lmao';

'>>61464560
*deep breath*

>AR15s have become the unflavored oatmeal of the gun world and the people that are obsessed with them go into the same bin as marvel fans and no amount of dressing your gun up will make it any more interesting

>had a man absolutely agast the other day that I carry a 3032 Tomcat instead of a .22LR revolver or a Roland special because Lucky Gunner didn't tell him it was better. Guntuber goblins need to be exterminated

The Sub2000 and similar PCCs are very good guns for the price and for the right niche and I don't care that your SBR MCX is roughly the same size

>Instagram is one of the worst things that ever happened to gun culture

>going to a class and the entire staff being decked out in multicam even though 90% of them are never serveds and we aren't learning about how to utilize camo effectively is cringe and you look like a Fag

>Facebook Flex offs by people who want to play dress up and show how in debt they are is pretty funny';

'>>61464560
You'll never need nods. I only use a thermal optic to hunt.';

'>>61464560
>Rhodesian and South African shit being popular is only based if your take on it is because their infantry were incredibly good, their overall strategy for fighting insurgencies were very good and that they were white fighting to have their own countries in Africa against the hordes, none of that "their camo is cool and so are their shorts, isn't that funny? lmao" type shit
The Rhodesia meme was funny for 2 seconds, several years ago. It went the way of all le funny /k/ memes; ruined by instagram sk8terators.

>>61465141
>Fallout New Vegas is a shit game that is only slightly bearable if you mod it into a new game completely.
The funny thing is, F4 is a game with really good framework, with absolutely no substance. FNV is a game with shitty framework, with more substance than F3&4 combined. NV is the only 'Fallout' game after 1&2, the Bethesda titles are husks of what Interplay did.';

'>>61464560
>>magdumping around corners and frag grenades will always be superior to SOF fluid dynamic high speed low drag shit
I agree, and contribute;';

'>>61477773
flamethrowers would unironically be one of the best weapons to use for room clearing against enemies who are fortified.';

'>>61464560
1911fags are just akfags who like handguns more';

'If the US military gets into a war that is high intensity with heavy attrition, there will be mass mutiny and disarray among the divisions deployed. I can't see how the US Army of today could handle mass casualties for a war that would probably be viewed as bullshit from the start. The Zoomers may be the most based generation if that is the case.';

'>>61464675
>there will never be a happening, s will never htf, prepping is stupid and a waste of money
Agree, but it's nice to have some extra food, water, and ammo around in case of a much more likely natural disaster/local infrastructure breakdown.';

'>>61464593
Battleships should be brought back because they're cool enough to deserve it.';

'>>61464593
Battleships should be brought back because it'd be cool to see one sink in 8K';

'>>61465149
>I can assure you, officer, that my multiple sucking chest wounds have absolutely nothing to do with the firefight yesterday between government forces and the brave freedom fi--- terrorists. The terrorists.';

'>>61479462
This is very true. The government catered too hard to the rich the past 5 decades and demoralized/insulted the working class through shit policy and retarded top-down elitism. Not to mention the promotion of "woke" politics as the default language of the government. What you have left is a beleaguered nation that was ripped away from what made it prosperous and left it horrifyingly vulnerable to subversion domestically and from abroad. The people who the government would depend on to fight their wars, that as previously mentioned would be solely for the benefit the rich, would spit in their smug, wrongly-rich asshole faces. 90% of men in this country would be far more inclined to hogtie the military recruiter and draft crew and throw them in a dumpster than fight any fake and gay foreign war. No amount of propaganda or fearmongering is going to change this. Congratulations Government, this is exactly what you wanted. You played stupid games and won stupid prizes.';

'.32 is the ideal snubnose revolver caliber';

'>>61465595
>In The Great Illusion, Angell's primary thesis was, in the words of historian James Joll, that "the economic cost of war was so great that no one could possibly hope to gain by starting a war the consequences of which would be so disastrous." For that reason, a general European war was very unlikely to start, and if it did, it would not last long. He argued that war was economically and socially irrational and that war between industrial countries was futile because conquest did not pay.
>According to Angell, the economic interdependence between industrial countries would be "the real guarantor of the good behavior of one state to another", as it meant that war would be economically harmful to all the countries involved.
Please note the date of publishing.';

'>the forward assist is perfectly fine to have on a gun, if the gun is going to jam, it would have happened without it anyway, and the people who shit on the forward assist are either noguns, noar15, someone who only listens to ecelebs, or someone who wants to feel different
>freefloated barrels don't really matter for accuracy / precision, it depends on the gun, the barrel, and the ammo being used, with the ammo being the most important of all
>most people on /k/ don't actually like weapons, and just talk about them because they want to feel cool, and even the guys who post images with their guns in them are doing the equivalent of flexing their muscles to attract girls, not because they have a genuine interest in anything
>most guns on the market are fine for what they are, as long as you like it & are willing to take care of it, thats what actually matters in the end';

'>>61464560
9mm fags argue about capacity until its inconvenient IE 5.7 and 32 super
the m5 is dogshit
the m14 sucked ass and deserved to die and I hope it burns in hell along with the US ordnance dept';

'>>61479462
Zoomers are retarded and will go to fight in the army as a tiktok challenge, for trans rights and other such shit';

'>>61479462
nah, they'll just frame the leader of said country as Hitler 3.0 and promise a girlfriend (male) to anyone who fights.';

'>>61464560
>WWII era US infantry TTP's>modern era US infantry TTP's, squads should have designated scouts running small patrols in front of the squad formation
You have not actually read Infantry Rifle Platoon and Squad or any actual SUT doctrine. WTF do you think the lead team is supposed to be doing?';

'>>61469603
the GSR test doesn't detect for nitrates, it detects the stabilizer compound diphenylamine. nitrates are too common to be useful for discriminating GSR. the airport hand swabs only checked for peroxide based explosives for a long time. remember, it's just for show.';

'>>61465560
Anon, breaking contact involves bounding your elementS OUT of contact.';

'>>61474166
>>61473580
Unironically mentally ill';

'>>61464560
>there is no reason to replace 5.56
Correct
>hi points and PSA rifles are great for an American insurgency
Correct
>magdumping around corners and frag grenades will always be superior to SOF fluid dynamic high speed low drag shit
Correct
>plates are nice to have but are not necessary and can be very detrimental
So wrong
>>61464593
>bullpups are good, they're just strange to get used to
Correct
>>61464826
>Bullpups are only held back by price and familiarity on the civilian market
Correct
>It's not only acceptable but in some cases weird if you don't spend more on your optic than your gun
Depends, but usually wrong
>You will always be the least accurate element of any gun
Correct
>You're far more likely to die from health-related issues than in a gunfight
Duh, this isn't controversial
>>61465141
>I’d rather have a 20lb loaded plate carrier over multiple sucking chest wounds.
You and me both brother. Just take it off of you need to blend in.
>A PSA freedom is perfectly fine for a fighting rifle
Correct, if you also tighten and lock-tite your screws
>You can be Pro 2nd Amendment and also not wanting your enemy armed as well.
Correct, nobody wants them shooting back.
>>61468319
>no amount of gear makes up for physical fitness
Correct
>bullpups are really fun and nice looking and don't have the drawbacks that people say they do; they're also a tremendous fucking pain to use while wearing a plate carrier and assault pack
Correct
>>61468538
>Rifle suppressors really have no practical use other than hearing comfort domestically.
Mostly right, coming from a stamp collector.
>Mass shootings unironically are a decent way to gauge a firearms practicality in both cost and lethality.
Unironically the funniest thing I've seen on this board in ages.
>>61469159
>>61479475
All 100%
My controversial opinions:
>300blk frangible is the best HD round
>reddit actually has plenty of good info and gun communities
>you should get a fire extinguisher before a gun for HD';

'The United States and Russian militaries have been in irreversible decline since the 1990s.

Russia's just started from a lower end of the totem pole and declined dramatically faster.';

'>>61481975
>reddit actually has plenty of good info
Yes. I think its fair to say all the expertise that /k/ used to have back in like 2012 is now on reddit, on some hipster board like opchan or just not online at all.
>and gun communities
No they're all faggots, some are just better at hiding it. Sometimes I read through an old reddit thread that has the answer to a question Ive googled (or yandexed) and Ill check the profiles of the guys who know what they're talking about to see if they've said anything else worth reading; and invariably they'll have at some point posted something remarkably gay (surprising amount of redditors who know their shit about LRPS are anti-2A) or posted in a sub like r/dogdicksuckers or r/reverseanalvore or something like that which makes me compulsively disregard everything they've said in sheer disgust.
>you should get a fire extinguisher before a gun for HD
I've heard that getting dry powder into the lungs is not survivable, but carries more plausible deniability than a bullet to center mass; is this what you're referring to?';

'>>61473580
>>61474166';

'>>61482029
No, you're just more likely to need a fire extinguisher than a gun.';

'>suppressors aren't worthwhile to issue to typical infantry units, those guys should all have quality hearing protection and comms gear anyway
>abandoning "full length" rifles in favor of carbines for everyone is a stupid idea, especially given the desire to have small arms capable of killing the enemy at longer ranges than 300ish meters
>the Army is retarded for cancelling FARA
>all of the branches besides the Coast Guard are currently competing to be the most retarded, maybe the Coast Guard is making an attempt too but I just haven't heard about it
>the sort of politically correct politics that has grown like a tumor ever since the mid 2000s have been is a disaster for armed services and everything related to government, treating the recruits in boot camp with kid gloves and having lower fitness standards for women is going to get Americans killed sooner or later
>the "transformation" cult that gave the Army massive programs that resulted in no hardware like FCS is still alive and well today
>disbanding Strategic Air Command was a mistake
>we were entirely right to invade Afghanistan, the 20 years of failed nation-building we did after was the actual mistake
>banning cluster munitions and DPICM is a retarded idea done for UN feel-good points that a real enemy gives no fucks about using
>War Thunder has been a disaster for all public discourse relating to armored fighting vehicles
>the most effective way to wage a counter-insurgency campaign is to not do it or do it like the Romans did and just kill everyone even remotely associated with the trouble-makers.
>all this quadcopter and $5 chink drone bullshit is the gayest form of warfare invented so far, pray air defenses continue to catch up to deal with this shit';

'>>61479169
i wonder shy they havent used some flamethrower drones yet, war-crime related?';

'>the best gas block was invested in 1964, if the actual triangle gets in the way take a hack saw to it

On the subject of gasblocks

>gas ports on barrels sold by popular brands (DD, BCM, etc) are bigger than they need to be because poors want to run cheap dogshit in their ARs

If your gun won't run with a 0.07 sized port you need to buy different ammo. I hate having an overgassed rifle because companies are worried about bad reviews/RMAs because someone who shops for optics on Temu doesn't want to spend .45cpr-.50cpr on high quality brass.';

'>>61464560
>if armor is needed, then you're better off with lvl 3A vests for frag protection while still staying light
Plate carriers are less taxing in heat and they actually stop projectiles.';

'>>61482122
Suppressors are the best way to increase accuracy of aimed fire of you average untrained mobiks. Flinch is the thing.';

'>>61464705
Believe it or not, those lasers work on cannon rounds too, in fact they are easier to hit because they can't maneuver like a missile can be designed to do.';

'>>61464826
>>NVGs are really cool but completely unnecessary for any kind of civil unrest
You've clearly never used NVGs. You can see what's in the shadows at night. It is a huge advantage both in the wilderness and in artificially lit civilization.';

'>>61468623
>ATF killed a man for legally purchasing legal firearms';

'>>61479169
>Flamethrower room clearing
It depends on your goals and tolerance for civilian collateral losses of life and property. Yes you can burn down buildings without ever looking inside, however, it isn't quick, the flamer is still vulnerable from being attacked as they spray and if thr building doesn't burn down and has walls, closed doors and alternate ventilation it won't be effective at all.';

'>>61480101
The forward assist has value literally only if you rode the bolt gently forward and have a single grain of sand ever so slightly holding the bolt out of battery. It is otherwise completely irrelevant and tap-rack fixes every malfunction that doesn't require you to fully clear the weapon and remove the stuck casings with your fingers.';

'>>61474412
>Be pro 2nd
>Don't encourage commies, child groomers & etc. firearms (unless they KSG themselves)
Shrimple as.';

'>>61485281
>>61474412
I literally think that ex-cons should be allowed to purchase and carry firearms upon release. Any problems will soon resolve themselves.';

'>>61485334
Absolutely, honesty the notion of a felon is so stupid. Like either you did your time and are now a healthy individual able to reintegrate with the rest of society or you're not and you need a few more years in the slammer';

'>>61464560
> Military is generally as stupid as governments in general barring exceptional motivation or leadership.
> Doctrine quoters that ignore both physics and theory of war is the most wrong kind of midwit in times of change.
> Armor-brained responded to RMA for 40 years like Cavalry responding to the invention of the cartridge.
> Attachment to platforms is phallic, the thinking person is about ecosystems in era of small scale intelligence.
> If you think drone swarms are gay, you haven't see how gay USV spamming mines everywhere would be.
> To win in America, weapon optimization is less important than making it annoying for your enemies to join the bureaucracy never mind the actually important stuff.';

'>>61484767
I actually did the hacksaw technique on one of my first rifles.
>and I'd do it again

>a big dog is better for HD than a gun
>tacticool is silly for urban unrest, wear a hoodie over your kit and blend in
>you'll never arm the neighborhood, stop collecting shitty guns
>keeping your magazines loaded doesn't wear out the spring
>you should read up on the gun laws in your area, common knowledge is often wrong
>situational awareness is more important than anything
>you need to shoot more anon';

'Ukraine is losing.';

'Ukraine has zero chance of winning and I love hiding 20 hohol sneed threads every time i visit the weapons board on 4channel dot org';

'>>61485836
>>61485855
brown hands typed these';

'>>61485334
I agree but I'll go one step farther. There should be no such thing as an ex-con. If someone can't be trusted to walk around in public without robbin', rapin', or murtherin, then they ought to not be on the sunny side of the dirt.
Kill 'em or set 'em free, but do away with this bullshit middle ground "we'll let you out of the cage but you can't do the things that the good people do".
I have a dream that one day every make of machine gun can be bought from a vending machine at the corner store with no ID!';

'>>61485696
>common knowledge is often wrong
about so much more than guns.
A lot of states have explicit laws that don't allow a fine for going 1-5 mph over the limit. The fine is "warning". But I can't tell you how many people I have heard claim that you won't get a ticket if you're "only going 10 over". No, they can stop you for going 1 mph over, but it only becomes profitable if it's more than 5mph over.
Read the laws and you too can speed risk-free at 5 over the limit everywhere except for school zones and construction zones with workers present.';

'Anyone who creates and/or posts in "unpopular opinion" threads should be permanently IP banned without any chance for appeal
Threads like these are the den of cowards and fools, so that they may freely express their awful ideas without fear from derision and pushback that they would recieve in a normal discussion
Yes, the irony of making such a post isn't lost on me';

'>>61488348
this bait will get replies';

'>>61488484
Do it. I've been banned a few times. I just turn airplane mode off and on and I'm back.';

'Buying flat triggers for literally everything is the STUPIDEST shit and a peak example of cargo cultishness in shooting circles.
Yes the competition shooter with a pencil-lead weight 1911 trigger uses them, no that does not mean you'll shoot better because the mediocre striker trigger on your CCW is flat.';

'>>61488512
You just gave it one';

'>>61464560
Holy shit you're actually retarded. cool thread though';

'>>61479169
damn. almost as if there is a recent historical example of this.';

'>>61488484
>without fear from derision and pushback that they would receive in a normal discussion
but that's exactly what happens in unpopular opinion threads lol';

'>>61484871
Training is the best way to increase the accuracy of an an untrained shooter. But nah, who needs the time proven solution? Just issue untrained conscripts suppressed rifles with some sort of smatphone app to help them shoot, what could go wrong?';

'>>61465463
Bud, the moment any fucking "boog" happens, every nutter on the entire fucking planet is going to make their move. Do you have any fucking idea what that means? It was a rhetorical question, you obviously don't. Thankfully, the .gov does. Which is why there will be no "boog".';

'>>61492306
>every nutter on the entire fucking planet is going to make their move.
yeah and immediately spill their spaghetti as soon as something doesn't go according to their fantasy
pic related';

'Retards posting about the boogaloo will be wiped off the map in days if it actually happens lmao. You are not spec ops. You are a glorified airsofter, and you are outing yourself as a target every time you post about said "boogaloo"';

'>>61464560
There are no ayys in the sky, just black projects.
t. aerospace engineer';

'>>61464560
A pasgt vest is not more comfortable than a plate carrier, but that's not an unpopular opinion you're just retarded.
If you are facing a significant chance of frag being a threat not opting for an armor carrier over a plate carrier is autistic.';

'>>61464560
>>Rhodesian and South African shit being popular is only based if your take on it is because their infantry were incredibly good, their overall strategy for fighting insurgencies were very good and that they were white fighting to have their own countries in Africa against the hordes, none of that "their camo is cool and so are their shorts, isn't that funny? lmao" type shit
Can't so both? Also, where can I read about the Rhodesian tactics/strategies?';

'bullpups
>Trigger is equally as good/bad as basically every other non-race gun, semi auto rifle ever. The people who complain about, or say they refuse to own/shoot bullpups because of the trigger, are people who cannot afford a bullpup and likely do not own any other gun either
>My only complaint is that the generally "taller" butt plates feel weird and awkward while wearing a typical plate carrier, and that the rearward magazine sometimes catches on my mag placard depending on how I move, but both are literally skill issues that would disappear with any actual training besides me fucking around innawoods

handguns/cc
>There is genuinely zero reason to carry 45 in the current year, when any conceivable reason you'd want that caliber for is vastly outperformed by other calibers
>>anybody who carries 45 for any reason besides "because I like it/I want to" and tries to rationalize why it's a good carry round should not be trusted when discussing guns or really any other facet of life if their thought process is that fucked
>unless you live in a hypothetical state where you cannot carry a gun that holds more than 6 rounds, there is equally zero justifiable reason (other than "because I want to") to cc a revolver, especially a snubby
>holsters should either be kydex with a decent mechanical retention on your gun, or leather with an additional retention strap. Anything else is designed/manufactured/sold by people who do not own or carry guns

pocket knives
>no folding mechanism will ever be as strong as a basic full tang fixed blade, no matter how much you wish your $17 rainbow damascus blade trueswords knife was
>blade length doesn't matter at all
I used to think anything about 4 inches was pointless, tips fedora, but now I dont give a shit
>for a edc pocket knife, especially a "weak" folding knife, slicing is more important than prying shit so you should have as shallow of a grind as you can reliably do yourself on a stone';

'>>61465595
won't that be worlds war 1?';

'>>61493187

plate carriers and sapi plates specifically
>(You) don't need armor. If you want them because you want them, zero issue with that- but the fantasy that you're going to/want to catch a rifle round square in the chest is retarded
>if (You) want to wear front and rear plates for some kind of imagined threat, you better have side plates too, because if you dont that is absolute larping
keeping in mind that larping is fine if you admit that it is- too many faggots pretend that they're under hourly threat of being sniped and thats why they need RMA plates
>should go without saying but if your plate carrier is covered in shit you don't need, kill yourself';

'>>61493617

general larping
>MREs are fine I guess if you're larping near a vehicle or "base" where you don't have the ability to cook shit from scratch, but don't have to carry around heavy ass MREs very far. If you go online and pretend that you backpack and hike regularly with multiple MREs because "MREs are better" then again kill yourself you lying faggot
>what clothes you choose to wear literally doesn't matter as long as it works for you, and dont let anybody convince you otherwise
>ignore online role players in comms threads who autistically regurgitate what they misunderstood from skimming an article on encryption or anything else, all you "need" is any water resistant (i.e. not chinkfeng) ht (or even bubble pack walkie talkies if you and your friends are close enough and dont have any trees or hills or buildings between you) that doesn't have frs/gmrs frequencies locked out. I promise you with complete certainty you don't have anything you need to say that needs to be encrypted. If you have the energy to go for it, it doesn't hurt, but don't let actual armchair retards tell you that you "need" encryption
>goretex in boots is a horrendous idea because 1. it literally doesn't work as advertised in the best of conditions and 2. when it inevitably rips it makes your boots actually worse
>>goretex jackets/pants isn't as totally as stupid but I vehemently believe wearing a plastic poncho and just waiting out the rain is far, far smarter. If you "need" rain proof clothes so you can keep walking/working in the rain with such physical exertion that you "need" the "breathability" of goretex you've already fucked up beyond what any meme gimmick can offer you';

'>>61493635

hunting
>hunting has devolved into gear queering and diabetic dudes sitting at home on their computers arguing over calibers and guns that they don't own anyway and get triggered as fuck when you bring up the fact that they're spending so much time and energy arguing online instead of actually hunting
>the dudes who actually hunt don't go on the internet and don't talk about it beyond "yeah you kill the animal, why are you making it so complicated you sperg"
>waiting in a tree stand is actually "smart", but too many faggots sit in a tree stand and then go around online and in person to people who didn't ask bragging about how they walk for hundreds of miles shirtless through the forest and best a 50 point buck in fair combat, usually while they're preparing their hourly insulin injection';

'>>61493635
>but don't have to carry around heavy ass MREs very far.
nigger what is more calorie dense and doesn't require cooking than MRE entrees
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T FIELD STRIP MREs BECAUSE.... YOU JUST CAN'T OKAY!?!?';

'>>61465829
>the problem with that is that carriers and cruise missiles will still do a better job of shore bombardment.
I feel like the big guns could give a cheaper alternative to cruise missile spam and planes
>well instead of firing guns at each other until one side get's a lucky hit, it's just them spamming missiles at each other until one of them gets and unlucky miss with their counter missile systems.
Yes. Good old fashioned surface actions';

'>>61492478
I said on the planet. The whole fucking planet. Are you this dense? Yes. Yes you are.';

'>>61464560
Ukraine will lose the war due to political bullshittery reasons, and the United States +NATO couldn't invade Russia and win because political bullshittery reasons will handicap them. Also F-35 stealth jets can't hold the enormous fucking Russian front and protect it against partisans.';

'>>61464560
16-20 inch ARs are adequate or even ideal for most civilian and military needs and the obsession with SBRs in the market comes from the us govt trying to kick doors in the middle east where they couldn’t just JDAM every building with bad guys like in a hot war and the market following hypebeast trends';

'>>61493744
You're hiking as a civilian. You can sit down and cook whenever the fuck you want. Larping you can at least come up with the gay excuse that you totally need a specific gelatinous entree you can eat cold, but that's really gay and there's a reason every fag who actually rucks as an infantryman recommends a jetboil now.';

'The last 100 yards is 50% meme book just because of the fucking sun tzu citing every fucking paragraph. Nigga read some books besides eastern shit.';

'>>61479998
Isn’t this part of the reason why England stripped itself of it’s colonies after WWI. The politicians needed a reason for the war and they were basically forced to demonize the Germans and claim the whole war was over democracy. Their initial reasoning was the threat of a powerful german navy stealing their colonies';

'>>61500373
>why England stripped itself of it’s colonies after WWI
if you mean after WWII and retroactively changing the cause of the war yes, although it was the Japs rather than the Germans, since they were actually conquering British colonies.
The casus belli for Germany was pretty much he's Napoleon 2.0 who's a mad dictator trying to conquer Europe to spread his revolution.
The Russians/Soviets actually stuck with that narrative, but the west retroactively changed it to muh democracy and hall of cost.';

'>>61464560
automatic weapons ban was beneficial, but they should still be legal for me and you gun abiding citizens. it shouldn’t by nigh impossible to get one is my point.';

'>>61464560

The United States should have overthrown Saddam Hussein in 1991';

'>>61464560
>Rhodesian and South African shit being popular is only based if your take on it is because their infantry were incredibly good, their overall strategy for fighting insurgencies were very good and that they were white fighting to have their own countries in Africa against the hordes, none of that "their camo is cool and so are their shorts, isn't that funny? lmao" type shit

gigabased and true';

'Best home defense weapons, in order
>literally any shotgun
>literally any pistol
>literally any Rifle
In the extremely rare chance you get broken into, your presence alone with spook them and send them running. Firing one shot from any gun will certainly send them running. If you are spending money on tac lights and special hollow points and not a sturdy door, motion sense exterior lights and a basic camera, you’re an idiot larper';

'>>61500618
Objectively correct and it should have incorporated Iraqi armed forces in the new government.';

'>>61464560
There were no good guys in the Iraq war.';

'>>61500664
sturdy doors and motion sense lights and camera is the way';

'>>61500742
People forget burglars aren’t mindless idiots. They be retards but there’s a science to finding the right house to rob, and having those three precautions basically makes your house kryptonite. Unless they’re hard core on drugs, but you’d have to live in a total shithole to worry about that.';

'>>61500575
of course, otherwise we would have needed to turn around and say "hey Soviets, quit being Napoleon 3.0 and spreading your revolution" and nobody wanted to deal with that for some reason';