'>>61475076
It is not.
Most of it is.
The rest is just unproven yet.';

'Banan';

'>>61475076
Their AA and ATGMs seem fine. They suck at armored vehicle design.';

'>>61475076
They're very competent at achieving marginal gains at casualty rates that would turn any civilized western state into Mad Max';

'>>61475169
I seek a comparison with euro weapons and american ones';

'>>61475134
They’ve been heavily relying on minorities and migrants whose lives apparently carry no value at all to Russians. So their society shrugs off losses that would be nothing but a constant media shitstorm if the same were to happen in a Western country, and so continues down that path until they’ve grown substantially larger than where they started and will be hitting around 400k. Bringing in all these migrants and their families on the citizenship-for-service deal will have an impact on Russian society in the future but that’s a problem for regular Russians the elites don’t care.';

'>>61475182
Obviously Russia can’t match American weapons but euro weapons are pretty close to Russian standard';

'>>61475076
Because russia is a corrupt, evil, and poor shithole inhabited by drug addicts and drunkards.';

'>>61475191
which euro country is da bestu arms wise';

'>>61475272
Probably Germany';

'>>61475076
>Be russian wagie engineer
>Underpaid because all the money got stolen by local oligarch
>No perspectives of getting paid in accordance with the work you do
>Laze off, make absolute bare minimum so it at least looks like it's working
>Try to steal some screws and other shit you can sell on side for scrap
There's is literally no motivation to do anything more than pretending that you are working';

'>>61475169
lmao';

'>>61475076
because it was made by russians';

'>>61475272
Germany. Highest wages, the most braindrain, the most wealth sapped from peripheral Europe.';

'>>61475337
im guessing france is second then';

'>>61475076
>why?
russians';

'>>61475116
Exactly, they /seem/ fine until they actually have to do the task they were apparently designed for.';

'None of it was meant to be used in a near-pear fight. Conflict with USA was unthinkable and Ukraine wasn't supposed to be a near-peer. So why worry?

Steal that gas. Pawn off that copper cabling. Falsify readiness reports. Exaggerate on-paper capabilities. Not like any of it will ever be used for anything serious, at most it will be for bullying smaller republics who can't meaningfully fight back.';

'>>61475420
UK/France, yes. Norway is a surprising competitor, considering its size.
But to be fair, the war in Ukraine has settled the countries into competition once again and which one's the most relevant for the future is still open to question.';

'They have ridiculous amounts of stuff. Even if they had more money and less corruption, we’d still see tons of shit falling apart.
Their stuff isn’t disastrously bad as long as they don’t get any crazy ideas about using tactics that are less a century old.';

'>>61475076
Short answer: Klebtocratic dictatorship wants to keep living off the the back of it's servile cattle ( see Iran, NK, swathes of Africa etc)

Long answer: if tou wanna do 3rd reigh stuff, at le mans do late Weimar/early Hitler mass rearmament and industrialization before you start your discount anschluss.

The biggest country on earth, shockful of ressources and future feetile lands due to climate change, conveniently commits economical and demographic slow suicide... While rejuvenating the world economy by enabling MIC investment What a tragedy.

The whole point of this war is to weaken the RF into chinese economical enslavement.
And Monke is perfectly aware ( and willing) of it.

>>61475294
They are offered positions in China/India/Turkey etc, how surprising.';

'>>61475272
Probably France. Germany gets so little value for the money it spends that American congressmen would get nightmares. The pacifists have been allowed to decide everything for a long time';

'>>61475555
>Probably France.
All they do is arm the third world. Do they have any modern products on the Western markets?';

'>>61475169
> If not, I really need an explanation as to why the Ukies keep retreating

Because ukraine doesnt have an industry pumping out shells and missiles, nor an enormous stockpile of old tanks to drag out of storage

Ukraine is literally entirely reliant on what its allies give it';

'>>61475169
Defence in depth';

'>>61475169
>I really need an explanation as to why the Ukies keep retreating';

'>>61475669
no im talking in general';

'>>61475076
Most of it is corruption and retardation, but not just that - an entire TRADITION of corruption and retardation.';

'>>61475134
The neat part is, Russia is already Mad Max with just a thin veneer of civilization painted on.';

'>>61475076
Every time i see those i'm reminded that Russia canceled the dual launcher due to lack of resources, now they rent KN-23s with dual launchers because North Korea did have the ability to make them.';

'>>61476017
literally a nation of niggers that had the luck of making dosh by selling oil.
imagine bazinga suddenly discovers huge oilfields and lets western know-how build up the infrastructure to pump it up and sell it to the world.
then you'd still have an african shithole with the majority being poor low IQ serfs but several hundred nigger oligarchs would be sailing the seas in their yachts and drive their ferraris in saint tropez';

'>>61478551
Nigeria is nowhere near as bad';

'>>61475076
What are you talking about? Armata is stongest tank in the world';

'>>61475578
The Caesar cannon, subs (SLBMs only for their use), FREMM, Rafale, EBRC Jaguar, also a shitton of other equipments with companies like Thales or Safran.';

'>>61475087
>The rest is just unproven yet.
Yeah the imaginary part of it.';

'>>61475076
Ukraine wouldn't really need ATACMS if they had finished development of the Hrim-2 missiles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrim-2';

'>>61478551
Yes I’m sure bogonoda would have a space program if he just found some oil. Look I get that in war you’re supposed to hate the enemy but taking it to the point of infantilizing the enemy it engenders an attitude of not taking him seriously. If you believe Russia will just sort of collapse from an internal competency crisis you’re going to be SORELY disappointed. It will in fact take major effort at a national level to eject them from Ukraine. Why doesn’t anyone think of Africa as an enemy? Because no one is threatened or the least bit concerned what Africans do. Kill them, help them, leave them alone, it’s a choice nations that matter can make and nothing Africa does really changes that. If an African nation got a major oil reserve it would simply just taken, either physically or financially. There would be no possibility of an African Russia emerging.';

'>>61479151
>Mongoloid rape baby using the name of the Lord in vain.
Burn that shithole to the ground, turn the entire country into a parking lot.';

'>>61479186
>supposed christman bringing up race shit';

'Having decent shit ain't gonna do you any good if you don't maintain it. Russia historically and economically is incentivized to pilfer what they have access to since the opportunity and political vision is short sighted. Only way they will get their shit together is if they engage in an existential war.';

'>>61478598
...FOR ME TO POOP ON!';

'>>61479168
russia had the luck of coasting off of soviet accomplishment, mainly their gigantic nuclear arsenal. the west was too careful to risk a full nuclear warlord era russia so they helped them financially and economically by providing gibs and helping to set up a market economy. without that aid there's a chance russia would've shit itself with some of its southern (and maybe a few other) republics separating from the federation and several different silovik groups vying for power, slaughtering each others in the streets of moscow and pidorsburg.
when putin took over after the tough wholesale reconstruction of the 90s the russian state was on its best way to become sick off dutch disease, something that happens to states all around the world, yes even african shitholes that had the opportunity to escape eternal poor niggerism. not just the former (and now again) ideological enemy with a grandiose past.';

'>>61479151
All 3 statements are delusive.';

'>>61475169
>If not, I really need an explanation as to why the Ukies keep retreating.
Because Ukraine is a backwards Slavic shithole marginally better than Russia but significantly smaller?';

'>>61475169
>I really need an explanation as to why the Ukies keep retreating.
they are tactically repositioning';

'>>61475076
>faulty,breaking down
Because maintenance and cleaning up after yourself is bitch behaviour according to Russian prison culture.';

'>>61475190
>They’ve been heavily relying on minorities and migrants whose lives apparently carry no value at all to Russians
That's how minorities and migrants should be used. It beats the western approach of keeping them as pets.';

'>>61475555
this. Also France actually use its military for things other than welfare program.';

'>>61475169
The disadvantage of having an army comprised of humans is that you can't discard their lives like candy wrappers in exchange for inches of land
Russia is not burdened with this issue';

'>>61475076
Weird how they've been fighting with shovels, outdated equipment, and no ammo yet still taking land.';

'>>61475169
They've devolved into meat waves to just soak up all of ukraine's ammo and supplies. Remember when they lost loads of aircraft even? Trading as many human lives as possible to just saturate everything. Russian lives are worth less to Russia than the ammo spent killing them.';

'>>61475669
NOOOOOOO THE (wait what is that) TV STATION NOOO HOW COULD THEY DO THIS IM SEETHING RN How's the oil depots looking?';

'>>61475076
I genuinely wonder if people here will keep trotting out this nonsense even after Odessa gets the second s back on its signposts. Will there be any self-reflection? Probably not, comfortable lies beat hard truth every day of the week.';

'>>61487143
>We still can witness a Dollar Tree D-Day
Don't play with my feelings, coper.';

'>>61475169
This is decent b8';

'>>61475669
>ziggers get BTFO
>chimp out and randomly blow up civilian infrastructure
>brag about it
>get BTFO'd again
>rinse, repeat';

'>>61475169
>I really need an explanation as to why the Ukies keep retreating.
Because they value preserving their own forces rather than the idea of sacrificing tens of thousands of men for single-digit square miles of ground. They leave that latter bit to the ziggers.';

'>>61480806
Nope. Try again, Indiana vatnigger. Also, nice samefagging.';

'>>61488108
That’s just projection and you (should) know it. Ukrainian defensive strategy has been not-one-step-back dogged defense for the entire war. At no time have they willingly traded land for anything and have only retreated when the situation was untenable. Avdiivka was literally in the middle of collapsing before high command ordered a retreat. They’ve fought like hell for every inch.';

'>>61475169
The bad guy always wins in the first two acts. It's like how Voldemort collected almost all of the Infinity Stones before Spiderman discovered his weakness.';

'>>61475076

AK is good.

Grenades work.

RPG / ATGM work.

Tanks while deathtraps if hit do work well enough that provide about the same use as western counterparts to the battlefield. Both get fucked by mines and artillery just the same.

BMP/BTR are inferior to Bradleys but nonetheless do their job.

Planes and choppers work but are very outdated and outclassed.

SAMs work well against anything not super modern.

Landmines work well.

Main issues are poor maintenance, all the equipment is a few years behind the west, lack of training, poor communication, bad opsec, bad coordination between the military branches and above all the inferior air force can't SEAD/DEAD nor combined arms warfare.';