'>>61477886
They literally put their entire gdp in the military and China bails them out on the rest';

'poorly';

'>>61477886

The purpose of an Army in Totalitarian regimes is not to put bullets into foreing combatants but to put them into their own citizens once they revolt.';

'>>61477886
In my culture we say that the poor man's money goes to the market twice.';

'>>61477886
they found a hack
you just don't actually fund them';

'>>61477886
Every NK soldier is actually an unpaid farmhand, because they got no mechanized farming (the regime has been failing for years to make farm equipment) and every other piece of military equipment is probably ww2 and cold war soviet surplus that would fail 5 minutes in contact with the enemy (see the russian war)
The only real reason why NK still exists is because a) China (and formerly the soviet union) would involve themselves in the conflict and b) They got functional short range nuclear missiles';

'>>61477886
>6.890 million active + reserve
That's over a quarter of their population jesus christ';

'Being in the Army means you get fed everyday.';

'>>61477886
Most of their training is marching.That’s cheap and they don’t need to spend any ammo or fuel.';

'>>61478195
>fed
most well fed soldier from best korea in the middle';

'>>61478219
Fake NATO propaganda. This is the REAL picture.';

'>>61478184
It's like a modern-day Sparta with a structurally militarized economy and society with a lot of traits of Stalinism but taken even beyond that. Like, the non-military workforce is essentially militarized with "strike brigades" and "speedy battle youth strike detachments" for those ineligible for military service, and they are organized in battalions and companies. They have ranks, uniforms, insignia, live in barracks', and undergo some basic military training too.
https://youtu.be/c6Mx2mxpaCY';

'>>61478248
>he even got the gigachad jaw
we need to shop further, shrink the imperialist and the traitorous lapdog
>t. cannot into shop';

'>>61478248
this is one of the smaller norks, isn't he?';

'>>61477998
Don't forget the fact ROK at this point don't really want anything to do with them.';

'undefined';

'undefined';

'siege mentality';

'>>61477886
military owns all farms
farmers are now active military personnel with no gear and no logistical way to fight a war let alone get to one.
simple as.';

'>>61477886
Military conscription starts at age 17 and ends at 30 in N. Korea.';

'>>61478248
If I pulled off that hat would he die?';

'>>61478376
Context?';

'>>61478376
>>61478382
Qrd?';

'>>61478376
>>61478382
What is happening?';

'>>61478421
>>61478422
North Korean POWs returned to North Korea. They were given new clothes and gifts, but threw them back at South koreans.';

'>>61478421
>>61478422
I believe it's from a prisoner exchange. The North Korean prisoners immediately started stripping off all the clothing they received from the south and threw it back across the border, most likely to signal their loyalty to the North Korean regime.';

'>>61477886
>How does North Korea fund a bigger army than South Korea when it's significantly poorer?
I'll give you a hint: those two things are related';

'>>61477886
Lower tech largely donated from communist allies and cheaper lives makes for a cheaper force.';

'>>61478219
The US and WK send their tallest personnel to the border to intimidate the norks. Ever notice how the US guys are always white even though army is about 80% latino at this point?';

'>>61478286
I wouldn't say its anything like Sparta.
The Spartans benefited with essentially an entire slave class and vassal class (helots & perelokoi) to actually do things, while Spartan citizens had the benefit to train in war or partake in sports or other forms of recreation.';

'>>61478195
not really true. the are stories of soldiers going into the countryside and robbing the villagers. straight up medival bandit shit.';

'>>61477886
>How does North Korea fund a bigger army than South Korea when it's significantly poorer?
Fund? The army fund themselves. They spend more time farming radishes, herding goats and working constructions than any other things a military ought to do.';

'>>61478571
There are also stories of them eating grass. The defector from a few years ago had over a dozen parasites inside him from eating grass.';

'>>61477886
zoinks Scoob, I think I know why they're poor';

'>>61478219
>>61478248';

'>>61478507
The overwhelming majority of their equipment they produce themselves, their entire national ideology revolves around making do with older equipment as long as they don't have to rely on outsiders. Advanced aircraft are the only thing they can't really make.';

'>>61478184
Wait to you figure out that they have a per capita AAA/HMG ratio of roughly 1:100. The 14.5mm meme isn't a joke.';

'same with all communists: through slave labor';

'>>61477931
The AMD-65 was so ahead of it's time. I mean shit the handguard was practically already an M-Lok style. Revise it to add a side rail compatible receiver, issue modern x39 ammo that fragments and you have a very practical general-issue Kalashnikov pattern rifle. I regret trading my Sweaty Ben AMD-65 for an M4gery. It also came with a plastic clamshell cover for the stock that gave a really good cheekweld while adding no weight.';

'>>61478509
>The US and WK send their tallest personnel
KEK. They're like 6' MAX. Come on now.
>Ever notice how the US guys are always white even though army is about 80% latino at this point?
Proof?';

'>>61478382
OH, they weren't too good for the boxers though, I see. They've been too accustomed to Western decadency, it seems. TO THE MINE WITH THEM!';

'>>61477886
They stick their farmers in military uniforms so they technically aren't civilians.';

'>>61477886
Fascist Juche places the military at the top of the importance pile and the military eats first while the other citizens often starve.
When it comes to volunteering, there is no greater motivator than hunger.';

'>>61477886
Literal slavery of its own citizens';

'>>61479356
interdasting...';

'>>61477886
>smaller navy
Why can’t communists into navy?';

'>>61478415
It would be extremely painful';

'>>61479495
Because warships cost money and aren't exactly something you can afford to cut corners on.';

'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkarV_CysYU
The West don't want none of this!';

'>>61479206
Yeah that's true, especially with their T-62 clones and wheeled/tracked APCs. I have a feeling that the actual machinery and technical expertise was originally provided by the soviets and chicoms.';

'>>61478355
that's a female nork';

'>>61479866
Holy shit I was laughing when I saw the Mig-17(15?), but I wasn't prepared for a fucking An-2 running CAS drills like that's a thing that should happen anytime after 1955.';

'What amount of money would it take to convince you to man a North Korean submarine?';

'>>61478509
Thats the funny thing, NK sends its tallest and fittest to the border for the same reason';

'It doesn’t, they’re lying. Or, there may be a very large military organization but it’s more of a political fiefdom supporting the crown than a military institution in the modern sense. Their job is to do parades and some internal security and political work, not to get into fights with other militaries. Basically just a different sector of the power structure.';

'>>61477886
>the reason its poor for 500';

'>>61477886
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songun';

'>>61477886
>he still trusts the figures
i remember being 12 once';

'>>61479576
>aren't exactly something you can afford to cut corners on.
motherfuckers still try though';

'>>61477886
neither korea really intends to start shit but gotta be ready anyhow and norko really need all that and more to be ready if shit does go down';

'>>61478219
shit meme';

'>>61478382
>>61478376
>not throwing your underwear at the dirty American dogs and showing them your bare butt
Disloyal dogs. Firing squad is waiting.';

'>>61477886
>bigger air force
>still flying MiG-15s
Lmao';

'>>61477886
lol this guy honestly thinks all of those guys have functional guns, ample ammunition, decent tanks and air to back them up, and field rations like westernized south korea.
everyone point and laugh LOL';

'>>61477886
>almost double air force personnel
>less aircrafts
Huh?';

'>>61479032
It's kinda crazy that the number of NK defectors successfully escaping the country are now in the single digits YEARLY. What a scary fucking country to live in. You're basically living in a prison for life.';

'>>61482243
Peak chair force.';

'>>61478286
>It's like a modern-day Sparta

Except Sparta's military was actually good and proved itself in battle many times throughout the centuries.

When was the last time a North Korean infantryman fired a shot in anger (not counting meme commando missions into South Korea that always fail spectacularly)?';

'>>61482244
Defectors and refugees have plummeted in the recent years since China's cracked down on it';

'>>61477886';

'>>61478248
>where do you work out?
>at the collectivized farm';

'>>61479498
>for jew';

'>>61485846
Slam eagle is such a cool name';

'>>61485846
>VS Reality
The even sadder part is that a South Korean KA-1 crashed as part of the intercept so these unarmed recon drones had a positive kill count with a maneuver kill.';

'>>61488367
Whats worse this or the us unable shoot down a chinese spy balloon floating across all of north america from alaska until eventually shot down by an f22 off the south carolina coast?';

'>>61488381
Obviously the drones since they were literally flying over the SK presidential office. With how easily any drone could be carrying an explosive charge there was a legitimate threat. The Chinese balloon didn't pose any real threat and didn't provide anything that China's numerous satellites were already seeing';

'>>61488396
The chinese spy balloon weighed over a ton and floated over hundreds of millions of people throughout north america and could have easily carried wmds even if primitive, the nork drone was 13kg and looked like something someone could buy from radioshack…';

'>>61488610
>could have easily carried wmds even if primitive
Legitimately retarded take.
This is also ignoring the fact that the US wasn't slamming planes into the ground while scrambling multiple dozen aircraft to get to the balloon. They sent a U-2 up which did it's job then sent an F-22 up which did it's job.';

'>>61488622
> chink spy balloon wmd

Literally the initial concern given the size + payload capacity, you clearly are not in the us…everyday it was front page news with everyone from farmers, hoodrats and beltway bandits/politicians screaming to shoot it down…shoo shoo back to your basement

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna130991';

'Funny how you Americans know so little of the way Communist conscript armies work. They are, first and foremost not soldiers. They are indentured labour in uniform that can be "deployed" wherever extra work is needed, be it factories, collective farms or most commonly everday chores in the officers' homes. In NK everyone is some form of "soldier" one way or another, at least on paper. Factory workers are part of worker battalions, who act as third echelon militia in wartime. Even students are required to be in some form of youth battalion to be eligible for college and schoolchildren are part of a militarized state boy/girlscout organization. All of this is just on paper of course and all of these state organizations are a a huge front for corruption, which is the only way to get certain things in a communist state, such as basic amenities, but also literally anything you need at home. Need something, you steal it from the factory you work in, in parts. There is the old Soviet joke, where Ivan working in a baby crib factory is asked by his wife to steal one part every day so they have a crib by the time their baby is born. When it is already 9 months the wife asks where the crib is and Ivan says anytime he tries to put it together it becomes a tank.

tl;dr stop looking at this from your view in a functional state and economy';

'>>61488656
This is why every time its a war between firsties and commies the commies take disproportionate casualties, they lack proper quality and readiness standards…this is why when anyone from a commie nation has a chance to escape they would rather drive a taxi or clean toilets in a firstie country than live it out in their commie hellhole…its never the other way around';

'>>61482244
China has cracked down hard on defectors, so their options for escaping are now pretty limited.';

'>>61488781
Fuck I remember this video. It's heartbreaking.';

'>>61488671
>its never the other way around

This is something I've recently realized. I've seen a bunch of videos with Communists in America. They hate the American system but never want to go to a Communist country. Cubans will build homemade boats and risk their lives trying to come to America, Venezuelans will walk thousands of miles to come to America, but American Communists make no effort to leave America.';

'>>61488644
A few sheriffs had to stop Freedom loving Americans from shooting at it with their deer rifles too.';

'>>61488671
>>61488830
completely and utterly wrong. even wikipedia lists a decent amount of notable ones, for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_and_British_defectors_in_the_Korean_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_emigrants_to_the_Soviet_Union';

'>>61482244
or maybe life in NK has gotten good enough that very few people feel the need to flee? but no, i'm sure north korea is le bad because the moonies said so';

'>>61477951
In English it would be more "a poor man pays twice"';

'>>61477886
because the north korean equipment is mostly ww2 tech,lol. the rest are 1960s tech.';

'>>61477886
I'm sure the majority of NK army would down weapons once they taste their first Big Mac.';

'>>61488381
Didn't they wait to shoot it down specifically so they'd be able to fish it out of the ocean afterwards?';

'>>61489358
This must be b8
That said most north koreans think NK is the best country on earth no matter how many of their children starve to death, because thats what state propaganda tells them and its not like they have free media';

'>>61478454
Well if they don't they'll get the bamboo chair treatment until they confess to their treasonous dalliance with the capitalist oppressors. This way, they won't ruin the clothes during the process.';

'>>61489386
Yes but they don't want you to talk about that.';

'>>61489343
Almost all of them returned to the US after only a few years in China.';

'>>61489343
Less than 50. I don't know all the cases but I know some of them are left because they got in trouble with America not because they loved Communism. Meanwhile the Coast Guard finds hundreds of dead Cubans trying to escape Cuba every year.';

'>>61489386
They didn't want to shoot it down at all and didn't give a single fuck about it until the media started screeching about it.';

'>>61478360
This. NK is a tarbaby no one wants to touch.';

'>>61477886
>air force
>110000
What in the fuck? What planes are they even flying and in what numbers.
I don't really stay up to date with their bullshit, but I can't even remember seeing them on parades.';

'>>61480011
looks like a mig-29, mig 21, mig 23, mig 19, an il 28, an-2.';

'>>61491802
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People%27s_Army_Air_Force#Current_inventory

Many types are repurposed, the Il-28s carry anti ship and ground attack missiles for instance.

The list is incomplete, there are many hundreds of An-2s not on it as well as a unknown but significant number of Po-2s.';

'>>61477886
By not paying you peasant solders anything.
They live off the land and own 0 money. In communism you don't need money anyway because nobody's producing and selling anything.';

'>>61491802
I'd guess the vast majority of that number are only chair force on paper, instead breaking rocks or pushing dirt around in a field somewhere most days. Then most of what's left are ground crews and base maintenance/security. I'd bet whatever general is in charge of it has his own personal little army of "air force" infantry who have never even gotten on a plane before.';

'>>61478382
>>61478376
Does it even matter? Didn't they already dead the moment they got captured by South Korea and tarnished the mighty best Korea's name?';