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'>>61570332
>Singapore
Never fired a single shot in anger, and never will.
Armchair generals leading armchair privates.';

'>>61570356
That wasn't my question. My question is, if war does break out, am I going to fucking die? Is there hope?';

'>>61570408
>if war does break out, am I going to fucking die
No
> Is there hope?
Yes';

'>>61570415
Nice. Thats all I needed to hear. Life is good. Fuck war.';

'>>61570332
If your military is competent, they simulate the enemy being more competent than them. If your military isn't competent, then somebody wanted to ruin your BC's career.';

'>>61570332
your country has as much defense in depth as the fucking Vatican bro, of course they don't let you retreat';

'>>61570532
iirc that's what screwed the bongs in 1941, they just kept retreating down the malay peninsula until they hit the end';

'>>61570332
If you are always winning in training then you are doing it wrong. Always losing doesn't necessarily mean you're training right but its definitely better than the way the Russians train. Training is supposed to be hard and just push everyone to do better and learn. Its like working out. If you aren't breaking a sweat and feeling a burn then you aren't getting stronger.';

'>>61570800
>they just kept retreating down the malay peninsula until they hit the end
its not like they really had a choice there, the decision to fortify the place should've been done minimum several months prior and the small task force tasked to prevent enemy from landing behind the frontline was sunk';

'>>61570800
Nah the problem was that Singapore hadn't been fortified against that eventuality
>surely no-one will attack us from land';

'>>61570344
Miranda's ass was so good.';

'>>61570408
Yes you will die and it will be glorious.
Abandon all hope and give everything to your country.
Majulah Singapura!';

'>>61570332
The good news is Malaysia is never going to cross the Johor Strait, and Indonesia sure as shit isn't going to try either.

China might attack with missiles. But China has a lot of things it might attack with missiles, and you have cooperated extensively on missile defense with the Israeli Jew.
>Verification not required.';

'>>61570332
Could've been "big picture" training to see how long you could hold without retreat, given you are in Singapore. Could've been to see how your Brigade could handle a Battalion being wiped. Could've just been your Brigade commander not caring. You're just a young radio operator, you probably won't ever know the big "why".';

'>>61570408
>My question is, if war does break out, am I going to fucking die?
Yes. You are in Singapore. You can really only fall back into the sea.';

'>>61570408
War is more horrible than deadly. Short supply, bad conditions, injuries. Besides isolated meat-grinder situations death rate is on par with many active sports, like climbing, para-gliding, motorcycling, skiing etc.

IMHO the problem with war is loss of your civilian life. You'll spend years, loose health and youth sitting in stinky trench while oligarchs place their bets in luxury.';

'>>61570332
>retreat
>Singapore
Where to? The sea?';

'>>61573517
Idk much about Singaporean defensive plans, but it seems reasonable to expect that they'd probably launch a counterattack in the event of a war into enemy territory, maybe that unit was basically a forlorn hope or a maneuver to prevent the complete encirclement of the city. I don't think the Singaporean military would sit by idly if the enemy tried to encircle them before attacking.';

'>>61573259
How the hell is GP style racing more dangerous than motorcycle racing?';

'>>61574964
They are probably using it as a generic term for motor racing. Only 3 drivers have died in F1 in what, the last 30 years?';

'>>61574964
the forces involved are just much greater, and motorcycle racers wear complex armored suits to protect themselves.';

'>>61570332
War is hell, but most people who participate survive. You have more to fear from Chinese occupation than you do from Chinese weapons. It is horrifying though, make no mistake, but it's one of those things where the grass is always greener. Draft dodge, flee, hide, and you'll spend the rest of your life regretting that you didn't stand up for yourself and your country when you see what was to come. Stand and fight, take shrapnel, live the rest of your life with long-term memory issues and a bum leg, and you'll spend the rest of your life damning yourself for not being more of a coward.

But that's why these exercises exist. So the cunts that want to inflict this on you think twice about it, and so all you'll ever have to worry about is the simulated losses rather than the real losses. Relax, you're doing fine.';

'>>61570332
Retreat to where, nigga? Singapore is a little larger than a postage stamp.';

'>>61570332
>Is war as horrifying in real life as in training?
No, it's worse.';

'>>61575008
What dota does to a motherfucker';

'>>61574964
If you crash an F1 car you're significantly less likely to be thrown from the wreckage.';

'>>61575040
To southern Johor probably since they would have punched all the way to KL on the 1st week.';

'>>61572310
The problem was that they were abject cowards. They surrendered to a force they outnumbered 2 to 1 and their commanders abandoned their men and fled by boat. The British Empire, what a joke.';

'>>61570332
>lost an entire battalion [in one day]
this has happened to Russia a few times so far. It seems like not much has changed for the poor fucking infantry';

'>>61570332
>we lost an entire battalion
>Mission was a success
decisive victory';

'>>61570332
>Singapore
Hi Wyatt.';

'>>61572716
>>61577048
In a war between Malaysia and Singapore, ATM will use a Combined Arms strategy which uses navy, airforce and army to win the war. This is how it would goes: air sirens goes off in all our air bases and the TUDM goes on the offensive. All jets at Butterworth, Kuantan,Gong Kedak and Subang are scrambled, whilst the jets in East Malaysia are placed on alert. Malaysian air defence radars will pick up fast moving aircraft intruding into Malaysian airspace and despatch fighters to shoot down ruthlessly. The combined SU30MKM and F/A 18 overwhelms the RSAF outdated US-made F16 defence fighters while F15SG are destroy on ground by ASTROS rocket and artillery fires. The few survivor that take off are suddenly ambushed by an unexpected threat, hidden low flying MIG29K that are secretly reactivated as a trump card arrive from an unexpected angle from hidden airbases in the jungles. Astros missile artillery launches destroys all of SG airfields in an instant, killing all the planes on the ground. TUDM SU30MKM and F/A 18 fighters launch bombs that level all of Singapore's main infrastructure, MBS and Changi Airport Jewel is now burning.

Malaysian naval ships and submarines scatter to sink and destroy Singapore’s navy and merchant navy, concentrating near the straits, as there is air superiority from destruction of RSAF. The 8 frigates Maharaja Lala class and Lekiu are overmatching the Formidables are the RSN frigates sunk in a salvo of brutal NSM+MM40 outranging their outdated and inferior harpoons. The Scorpenes easily detect and sink the obsolete Swedish made Archer class and Challenger class using Blackshark torpedoes. Being older and so becoming noisier, even AIP able Archers has no chance as the submarine dogfight has KD Tunku Abdul Rahman and KD Tun Razak the victorious hunters. The RSN stops existing as a fighting force';

'>>61577336
At the same time strategic infantry and armoured divisions is ordered to move to Johore, which it has rehearsed countless and many times and playing the simulated wargame against a Singapore army. GGK and 10th Para are practiced for this day, they are mass parachuted to take the southern crossings and hold for the armoured thrust to strike deep into enemy center of gravity. PT91M tanks engage with the modern Fire Control System(FCS). Its using modernized sight for day channel and optionally passive PCN-A sightwhich has thermal imagine sight, which create night fighting capability to improve first hit probability. SAF leopard 2s are all destroyed as 125mm cannon is more powerful than their 120mm cannon, the heavier APFSDS rounds cut through armour at superior ranges. Singapore capitulates in a day as PT91M regiments roll into the downtown areas of the city

For infantry fighting, Malaysian troops are the only forces in the world to have defeated a communist insurgency. They are knowm to be the best jungle fighters in the world. Elite forces all over the world are trained by them and the even average soldier are classed as tier 1 operators. Bulk of Singapore’s forces comprise of conscripts, it is a major factor that will contribute in the performance of it’s frontline troops. While core leading elements of their forces are made up of their regulars, that means there is no continuation in training for the troops. Their infantry divisions are wiped out by better trained and morale Malaysian elite tier troops. Airdropped paratroopers GGK and PASKAL infiltrators conquers the Istana and raises the flag over the island.';

'>>61570800
it's a peninsula, it's impossible to defend against an enemy with naval supremacy

>>61572240
unless they condemned the civilian population numbering 1 million people to starvation, they would have fallen eventually regardless of how well fortified it was
I don't think any place needing to feed 1.2 million mouths could hold out for the 6 months it took to bring the Japs to heel

>>61572310
it's impossible to fortify Singapore to that level, see above

>>61577078
>here we go again
You're a joke.';

'>>61577352
They didn't need to hold out 6 months, three days later and the Japanese would have run out ammunition. Percival used the lack of water for the civilian population as an excuse';

'>>61570408
1/3 gets injured, 1/8 maimed or loses a limb. Count yourself lucky if you die in combat.


You are aware your leadership doesn't give a fuck about you right? They are trained not to.';

'>>61577336
>>61577340
This fan fiction is believable if you forget that every branch of the SAF is qualitatively better armed and quantitatively outnumbers the MAF with modern weapons systems (artillery, armor, submarines, surface combatants, aircraft) by multiple times.';

'>>61577374
once again Singapore show they studpidity by provoking Malaysia, the keep talking abauot our nation 50yrs ago, and they try to ignore our nation capability right now.. latest our force got new PT-91M that are more powerful than sing tank, it have 125mm turret than can blow leopard or primus just in one blast, we also got SU-30MKM that capable to operate R-77 BVR missile that can be lunch beyond visual range, that mean it can be fire sing fighter just after they take off, malaysia got NGPV that come from various version to increase our navy capability, our PUTD got new Agusta to increase the speed and shock capability, we also got Astros II and G5 155mm howitzer that a long range artilery which can fire to sing just in melaka.

what im trying to say is not provocation, but i think sing just make a joke.. why they build such advance army?..it becouse they know they cant win a war with us, they think our soldier just like statue which cant even fight back. when they try to invade johore, we must already know, because we must have our spy to keep in eye to them. When they move out, out airbone will be send to cut off they supply, and army from central and north will come to face them, and gosh, they got stuck, they're now fully depending on their SAF, now the real fight begin...F-16A/B, F-15E and other come to fight with equal fighter MIG-29N,Su-30MKM..

they cant stand too long, when SAF dying to invade our airspace, our bombers and our F-18D bombing sing city into rubble...ha ha its fair right because they also rubble johore bahru, in the end they lost.. they're force to come back to their motherland with they're "high tech" soldier covered with mud, duri kelapa sawit and bloody leg because of pacat..

they have to rebuild their civilization over 20 years from the rubble...what they got??..nothing.they lost their nation into rubble, and we just lost our country..and they suffering with no water..';

'>>61577374
Malaysian major weapons system such as SU30MKM and PT-91M is Russian origin which is generally more robust and reliable than Singapore's Western equivalent such as F-15 and Leopard 2. Despite what /k/ thinks or believe, Western is not always superior technologically to Slavshit equivalents.

For example, when it comes to main battle tanks, at the moment Australian M1A1 and Sing/Indon Leopard are the bottom of the barrel in the Southeast Asia region. Malaysian PT-91M Pendekar, Viet T-90S, and Thai Oplot/VT-4 are superior to monkey model Abrams without DU armor (same as what Arab cunts like the Saudis, Egypt and Iraq use which have been lost in great numbers) Leopard 2A4 with body kit.

The Malaysian version of PT-91 are more different than Polish one and have included some pretty extensive upgrade possibly makes it among the most capable T-72 variant available. Instead on using a standard one, they following the Malaysian design by mix and match various East and West equipment like M2HB HMG, Germany tank tracks, Malaysian spectral camouflage system and Polish ERAWA ERA.

>French SAGEM gyroscoptic SAVAN-15 Fire Control System, similar to that used on the Leclerc
>EADS 3-axis gun stabilizer coupled with the ability to shoot GL-ATGM
>Belgian FN Mag + M2 HMG
>SS1C "Obra" laser warning receiver
>PM Dezamet 84mm Grenade Launcher
>Slovakian 2A46MS gun, 20% better accuracy than basic 2A46
>Malaysian thermal camouflage optronic system

and last but not least,Malaysia army has integrated network-centric operation via MEASAT 3B communication satellite that have 4x X-band transponder for military usage , so PT-91M have higher situational awareness than Australian M1A1.

For about half the price of an Abrams those modernized PT-91M is good to at least stand toe to toe with M1A2 SEPv3/Leopard 2A7';

'>>61577374
Malaysia's strength is in guerilla warfare, they have like 300k reservists militia trained for local terrain, along with special forces. If any high-tech army like Singapore came across the border, it would be destroyed within a month of Malaysian insurgents innawoods.';

'>>61577359
>three days later and the Japanese would have run out ammunition
>the British knew this
lol no
the British were not just out of ammunition, they were out of weapons as well, and unlike the Japs could not resupply

>muh 2 to 1
the Japs had the same number of men the British had, but they were mostly veteran troops, such as the Imperial Guard, 5th and 18th Divisions which had fought in China

in contrast, the British defenders consisted of 1 Australian brigade, half-equipped; 2 totally untrained and drastically under-equipped Indian brigades; 3 Indian brigades lacking in artillery, and 1 British brigade fresh off the boat from UK and also lacking in artillery.
furthermore the Japs had hundreds of fighters and bombers, and naval supremacy.

Churchill used the fall of Singapore to rally his people, but militarily holding it was out of the question; practically all resources were being devoted to the European front.';

'>>61577336
>>61577340
>>61577378
>>61577382
>>61577390
indog false flagger, ignore the pig';

'>>61577374

he Western mind, to place the Malaysian forces in the same category as the Arabs is an under estimation. Unlike US which was defeated in Afghanistan and Vietnam, Malaysian are the only sovereign nation that managed to defeat the Communist terrorism by their own during 2nd Emergency in 1972-1990, not only in Malaysian peninsula but also in Sarawak where the communist terrorists were supported by Indonesian military.

Malaysian troops constantly have combined arms exercises throughout the year, they have elaborately planned out training cycles for the individual,units, brigades, divisions and the corps as a whole. Malaysian soldiers, sailors and airman join the regular forces for the love of the profession, most of them. There are servicemen with an impressive lineage of soldiering. Most Malaysian servicemen have been blooded. They exercise in peace times with imaginery enemies, they have made mistakes, they go back to the drawing boards. They know their weaknesses,they improvise, adapt and overcome. They also conduct lots of cross training with foreign forces.';

'>>61577374
Yeah and people say same thing about Russia and Ukraine and how Russia spends more and has more manpower. Look where that ended up. Malaysian jungles will eat the Chinese alive and spit out the bones. You really think the Chinese are better fighters than the Russians? Think again.';

'>division level exercise
>opfor has unlimited CAS and fires again and has full combined arms and 6 lives per vehicle and man
SAF is fucking retarded';

'>>61570332
>Mission was a success, we lost an entire battalion. Is war as horrifying in real life as in training? 1/3 of an armoured battle group gone in a half a day
Yes, in a conventional war between peer opponents losing a battalion a day is normal. Between competent modern armies the goal is to cripple the enemy within weeks by maneuvering, but between incompetents you get Russia vs Ukraine trench war.';

'>>61573259
Some of these odds seem completely bullshit. Open wheel racing used to be very dangerous but its pretty damn safe now. You only get a fatality once a decade or so now.';

'>>61577378
>>61577382
>>61577390
>>61577409
>>61577819
oink oink';

'>>61570408
You will die and it will be good.';

'>>61570332
Someone has to stay and delay. Rather one unit lost than have all retreat and lose 5 and never gain a proper defensive line.';

'>>61577819 (least retarded indog)
>Look where that ended up
with Ukraine winning due to having better NATO equipment in spite of the Russian manpower advantage?

you just scored an own goal, fuckwit';

'>>61570408
>iswar as horrifying in real life as in training?
>Armchair generals leading armchair privates.
>noooooooooo! That's not the question!!1!
This is so fucking asian, nevermind spying on your leaders but needing others to tell you the reality. Insect brained retard.';

'>>61573259
Not enough cyclists are dying. How can we fix this?';

'>>61577382

>regional shitfight between thirdies
>overwhelming inferiority complex forces them to drag Australia into the discussion.

Every single time. It appears our superiority has lead to some controversy :^)';

'>>61573259
>American Football
How many of those are from heat strokes due to retarded coaches in August?';

'>>61585035
>heat strokes due to retarded coaches in August?
is that a thing?
t. notburger';

'>>61585068
Practice for FreedomBall usually starts in the second week of August before the season. Most places in the US are hot as balls, even the northeast averaging 29-32C a day. Since you only have about 3-4 weeks to get ready for the season, you practice outside, in full pads and helmet for as much as 14 hours a day, six days a week.

Some coaches are fairly intelligent and give frequent water breaks, shade to stand under or providing constant access to water. Christ when I went to college, the benches had sprinkler systems, trainers had 10 minutes hydration schedules and we did a lot of shit inside the gym when it was too hot. Some coaches, like my high school coach, were retarded boomers who think water makes players weak and wonder why players keep passing out. The kicker is that dehydration also greatly increases the rates of concussions.

Most Burgerball players know, or have heard of someone in a nearby school dying from heat stroke. There's a song and dance about player safety but then it's right back to, "ANON, ARE YOU AT THE COOLER AGAIN?! RUN A LAP YOU FAGGOT!" Wrestlers too but slightly different reasons.';

'>>61585113
What do burgers drink when playing burgerball? Tap water? Bottle water? Salted water (Vichy water)? Sports drink?';

'>>61574964
The recent safety eras have pulled down the average from what it used to be, but it probably still is close to 1:100. The F1 grid has never been all that large and it used to average a death or two a year, a couple of shit years where you're talking somewhere around 1:20 can keep that ratio looking grim.';

'>>61585228
Mostly tap water and ice but sometimes you get spoiled with sports drinks. If you're really spoiled you get a fucking fruit platter of melons, bananas and oranges';

'>>61582240
In what world is Ukraine winning? They are getting their shit kicked in. Look at all the land they are unable to take back. 2 more weeks to counteroffensive!';

'>>61585435
The reason I'm asking, is that as you sweat, you lose salt from your body. Drinking plain water is useless, if you don't get salt too into your body. Eating raindeer-horse-pork salami and drinking tap water is my choice, when on construction site in summer.';

'>>61570408
>Yes.
>And yes, we hope you die.
Don't worry, the rest of your Leo2s in Australia will be safe and acquired for the ADF.
As compensation for all our lads who died defending Singapoor in WW2 while you all sucked Jap cock.
>Thanks.';

'>>61585497
Salt loss over a 1-3 hours isn't going to cause issues when playing hand egg besides some post game/practice cramps. However some athletes and coaches swear by pickle juice. Plenty of salt and easy to take in. Usually people who do it though are planning to continue working out or are particularly sensitive to salt loss';

'>>61585435
I remember doing youth soccer, and we got regular water and orange slices in a ziploc baggie. I vaguely remember getting gatorade for matches, but its a blur.';

'>>61585509
>As compensation for all our lads who died defending Singapoor in WW2
Ahh yes. The famous Aussie deserters who died fleeing the enemy. The fucking Indians had more warrior spirit than the Aussies. Disgraceful.';

'>>61585509
The Empire was lost by Australian hands. I'll never forget how the Australians folded like paper against outnumbered, malnourished and under-supplied Japs.';

'>>61585515
Can confirm that pickle juice is amazing. But you also need decent potassium intake (banan) because cation and anion bullshit in the cell membrane.';

'>>61585539
>>61585546
British historians lying or downplaying the Australian war effort

Peter Elphick:
>a new zealand traitor called patrick heenan is responsible for why singapore fell
>also aussies are cowards and are responsible for the fall of singapore
>british officers dindu nuffins
Colin Smith:
>aussies did all the dying but not the killing at singapore
>also aussies ruined everything
>brits dindu nuffin
Peter Stanley (born in britain):
>aussies in ww1 were all a bunch of rapists who didn't follow orders and didn't even salute their officers
>australia was never under threat from the japanese
>it was all fictitious
>japan was never trying to cut australia off from america
>the battle of the coral sea never happened
>the kokoda track campaign didn't matter it only happened because uhhh reasons
Why are they like this?
>inb4: s-shut up you're obsessed stop noticing things
Well I've noticed them and now can't stop noticing.
What the fuck is their problem?';

'>>61585539
You do know that the Wavell report and Peter Elphick’s books were DEBOOKED a long time ago right?
Their claims of Aussies mass deserting, getting drunk and raping had zero physical evidence backing it up. Similarly my favourite one of their claims about a certain New Zealander also had no little to no hard evidence to prove it was even decisive, you know the one I’m talking about, that a:
>super evil pro jap kiwi spy traitor sent the enemy the secret codes which made the japs somehow win…just don’t ask how it made them win..p-please don’t ask it just somehow did ok…it had nothing to do with percival and it most definitely had absolutely NOTHING to do with wavell
Kek yeah no, Singapore fell due to a shit officer corps.
Historians from all over the commonwealth (excluding the likes of Elphick who isn’t even a real historian) have been asking for some actual hard evidence of any of these claims for over 80 years and I’m sure they will be asking them for many more years to come. For they will forever be simply nothing more than Wavell and Co’s hearsay only believed by the most hardcore of Anglophiles looking for any scapegoat they can possibly find, instead of simply accepting the truth.
Simple as.';

'>>61570532
Singapore is a lot bigger than you'd think. It's not even in the top 20 smallest countries. You could fit 1,635 Vatican cities inside Singapore';

'>>61585509

WW1:

>After the British Army surrendered at Kut (in modern day Iraq), in April 1916, the survivors were sent on a death march of 500 miles with little food and even less medical care. Of the 2,592 British rank and file taken prisoner at Kut, more than 1,700 died (nearly 70%) died in captivity.

>According to the book 'Battle on the Tigris' by Ron Wilcox, Officers reported stories of 'young solders of the Hampshire and Norfolk [regiment] being repeatedly buggered by Turkish soldiers and sick men being buried by the road while still alive'.

>One Australian who after return from captivity in 1921 went on a mad spree in Launceston (Tasmania) which ended with his taking his own life with a pistol. When the inquest was held his former commanding officer came from melbourne to give evidence ad stated that he had been "due to his youth and appearance, a particuar subject of foul abuses by certain Turkish guards."

WW2:

>Some camp guards were murdered by their prisoners. Donald Smith claimed that the Gurkhas killed a number of renegade Sikhs. Arthur Lane killed a Japanese guard who was attempting to rape a young Australian, the body of the Japanese, like those of other Sikh and Korean guards killed from time to time, being hidden in the sewage.

>Philip Towle, Japanese Prisoners of War, pg 12

anzac troops who were misdirected by idiotic british generals ended up being bumraped over and over and over and over by turks and japs and turned into sex slaves, because those turks and japs considered war rape to be a standard thing to do as a form of revenge. Imagine all those australian boys and young men returning to Australia, and marrying Australian women, trying hard to bury deep down the knowledge and experience that during the war they were captured, enslaved, and weakened, painfully violated, and then filled with the cum of some turks and japs who captured them. pretty humiliating tbqh';

'>>61585113
>32C a day. Since you only have about 3-4 weeks to get ready for the season, you practice outside, in full pads and helmet for as much as 14 hours a day
Big yikes
That's tempting heatstroke for sure
t. Tropical thirdie';

'>>61585515
>Salt loss over a 1-3 hours isn't going to cause issues
Pretty sure 2 hours of heavy sweating and no salt replenishment will cause lightheadedness and tiredness regardless of water intake
T. Been there done that';

'>>61570332
dying in war is for retards and poor people.
make sure you aren't in either of these categories and you'll be fine.';

'>>61570408
>am I going to fucking die?
No. The profession is eternal, and because it will live forever, you will live forever. Do not fear death, for it is coming for you anyway, and you will spend longer with it than you will life. Strive to fie a good death, as dying is the most important thing you will ever do.';

'>>61588561
Mans a radio operator in the rear. Pog piece of shit will never so much as hear a gunshot';

'>>61570332
>do it for the country
permission to retrograde we are getting overrun
>no, out
CINEMATIC !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Ardennes#Battle';

'>>61591829
clearly he's not Easy Company material';