'>>61581217
Abrams is the gold standard, but Leopard is a better compromise for countries that don't have the US military budget to work with. Challenger suffers from the misery of having to fit into the UK defense budget, but as a machine itself, it's a very effective seal clubber, if not quite as suited for the hypothetical russian/chink-lies-all-come-true WW3 scenario as the Abrams.';

'>Another "commie retard posts single pic because he in his discord they don't convert mp4 to webm to make an ebin trol in 4chan" thread
it's an M1, look at the asymmetry of the turret, now get the fuck out my board';

'>>61581217
Looks like another Abrams';

'>>61581266
Oh, is it new? I figured it was ANOTHER ANGLE.';

'>>61581217
That's an abrahamovich';

'>>61581277
It wouldn't be the first time they release multiple videos of a target, but ironically enough I've only seen them spam two abrams gibs, so I don't know if this is a repeat like the ATGM hit on the chally';

'>>61581266
>Another "commie retard posts single pic because he in his discord they don't convert mp4 to webm to make an ebin trol in 4chan" thread
Fuc/k/ that 4mb limitation my inbred friend, it's a fucking laugh. Shrinking that shit to 4mb, removing sound - imagine being that cucked!
>it's an M1, look at the asymmetry of the turret
Thank you!
>now get the fuck out my board
Hahah imagine being that self-righteous. You, sir, are the finest Reddit material.';

'>>61581310
>he can't just pot a catbox
yawn
you niggers get lazier by the hour';

'>>61581266
He's gonna leave soon, you can stop crying now';

'>>61581322
They don't pay them to be effective, just annoying';

'>>61581310
>4mb webm are cucked because low quality and no sound
>so anon instead posts a singular frame of the same quality as well missing sound
Yeah?';

'You could've at least changed how you type, doublenigger';

'>>61581376
Is that not heresy?';

'>>61581376
>doublenigger
kek';

'>>61581381
Incredibly heretical. It's why the ROCOR exists. Modern Russian Orthodoxy is almost its own sect at this point, and is disregarded by most people.';

'>>61581250
Abrams is extremely mediocre, Leopard is the gold standard. Challenger is better armoured than the abrams, but theres not many of them and they're not as mobile. The newest leopards are just outright better for everything except urban warfare/COIN.';

'I gotta applaud him, he's using proper punctuation, grammar, if it wasn't for the retarded way of talking and pure smell of shit I would've thought this was an actual thread by someone who wanted info';

'How come we have tons of video of the Bradley annihilating Soviet gear, but none of the Abrams fucking things up?';

'>>61581479
it is called ab'Harams not for nothing';

'>>61581479
Combat footage is not indicative of combat performance OR contributions to combat. Holy shit the ball gurgling over curated Ukranian PsyOp's is fucking intolerable.';

'Also, even with shells useless';

'>>61581612
I never implied it did. I just want to see footage of an Abrams fucking shit up';

'>>61581479
because there are a few hundred bradleys but a couple dozen abramses';

'>>61581266
Impressive, I couldn't even spot any asymmetry or where the turret ends, OP's pic is as low quality as his post.';

'So far it looks like PT91 is the most useful western tank';

'>>61581266
I've noticed these kinds of threads are exclusively started by ESL turdies. You saw loads of this kind of thing during the Hamas attacks.';

'>>61581217
>Basedlovyov live';

'So the first place goes to the Turtle tank, the second one to the PT91, the struggle for teh third place is ongoing';

'So roughly 30% of Ukrain-American Abrahams fleet is no more with the k/d ratio of exactly zero. How did the supposed apex predator become the sought after prey?';

'>>61581479
Range difference + role difference';

'>>61581479
Speaking of Bradley just yesterday the 47th lost four';

'>>61581217
What happened to all those comments about the breakthrough? I thought Ukrainian lines were collapsing? Did they somehow stabilize the front? Is that why pajeets went all silent about it and are now falling back to whatever this shit is?';

'>>61584531
>What happened to all those comments about the breakthrough
Nothing? Hohols army is on the run basically and nato are ready to pull out. So fucking funny';

'>>61584554
In two weeks time?';

'>>61584554
>and nato are ready to pull out
You have been saying this among other things since day 1 of the 3 day special needs millitary operation.';

'>>61581217
Impossible. NATO tanks can’t be destroyed by Soviet tech from the last century. Just impossible. The Ukraine is winning and has been winning for at least 3 years. Slava Ukraini!';

'>>61584659
>t.';

'>SolovievLive';

'>>61581408
>Abrams is extremely mediocre, Leopard is the gold standard
LOL the Leopard is a fucking shitpile, ask any miserable Leopard 2 loader if they wanna fucking crew that thing again';

'>>61581250
>suffers from the misery of having to fit into the UK defense budget
>4th
Unless youre the USA chances are its much bigger than yours.';

'>>61581217
And Luhansk is burning ATM enjoy shiting up the board with this shit for next few weeks and be sure to edit so it looks like 20 abrams. On that note please show me combat footage of the mighty T-14 armata';

'It's a T-80BVM';

'>>61581408
Retarded. They are functionally almost identical in nearly every aspect, except the Abrams has a gas turbine engine (tradeoff), a better crew layout than the Leopard 2, and has 100% of its ammo stowage protected by blowout panels.
Certain variants of the Leopard 2 have better thermals and optics, but those are not inherent to the basic design of the tank and future upgrades to the Abrams are intended to include 3rd gen thermals.
>Challenger is better armored than the Abrams
Maybe back then, but not anymore they aren't. The M1A2 SEPv3 with DU inserts and ARAT II is going to be better protected than the Challenger 2 with equivalent applique armor. While the Challenger 3 may have received some serious upgrades, those won't even be in service for several years and definitely haven't been on any battlefields.';

'>>61584767
>be leopard 2
>turret has less space than a tiger I turret (pic rel)
>15 round ready rack because half the turret is taken up by hydraulics
>loader's position is so cramped that he has to press his back against the wall
>only 35mm of RHA protecting the ready rack from the side, penetrable by .50 SLAP
>blast panels used to have better welds than the side armor, which is why turkish leopard 2s exploded so violently
>have to rotate turret 90+ degrees to the right to replenish ready rack
>crews get easily fatigued because there's no good positions to rest
>leopard 2A7+ still uses the same FCS as the leopard 1A3
>up to leopard 2A7V still has a fucking 640x512 thermal sensor, unusable past 1.5km
>no armored doors to protect optics
>nearly 1 meter taller than the abrams because of excessive ground clearance
>front roadwheels have no buffers, torsion bars snap under high stress
>needlessly long because it doesn't use a transverse engine
I'll end it with this
https://youtu.be/YafzmkvVRiI';

'>>61584845
Not an issue for germany. It's a job programme and corporate handout and they will never use them in combat, other people will, not their problem';

'>>61581217
>Cope cage with jammer box on the roof
This is a Russian tank';

'>>61584854
Yeah as much as I rag on the Leopard 2, it's a net positive for Europe's economy, and that alone makes it a better option than any other tank.';

'>>61584845
>turret has less space than a tiger I turret (pic rel)
>120mm vs 88mm ammo
>shit crew positions
Holy shit, being a L2 loader must be pure suffering.
>nearly 1 meter taller than the abrams because of excessive ground clearance
To play Devil's advocate, they're pretty much the same length/width and Western MBTs have always been big. The M60 was even taller than both of them';

'>>61584921
I used to be of the opinion that height didn't really matter, but seeing vehicles in Ukraine that are taller than village houses is just... yikes. It's another reason why cope cages are dumb, and I bet it's part of why Russia has taken such horrendous losses.';

'>>61581217
>challenger
>in combat
Are you retarded? They don’t use the challengers anywhere near the front';

'>>61585147
No retard. They use them for defending Ukrainian lines at the front
The difference is Leopards and Abrams are used for offensive operations at the front because they have DM1, M830A1, and M1028 where Challenger's HESH isn't suitable for open trenches.';

'>>61585206
>No retard. They use them for defending Ukrainian lines at the front
This is what challenger bros have to tell themselves.';

'>>61584845
>nearly 1 meter taller than the abrams because of excessive ground clearance
I'm sorry are we listing ground clearance as a negative.';

'>>61585213
>It never gets used at the front
>One geolocated to the front destroyed
>6 months later
>They never get used at the front
????';

'>>61581250
Hello chat gpt';

'>>61581217
>14+ hours and still no video';

'New Bradley /k/ino dropped. Lighting up a treeline full of infantry at close range.
https://x.com/ukrainenewslive/status/1788119097923809390?s=46&t=vNUOI7d7yJFqHoqKrRS_XQ';

'>>61585271
>that tree line AGAIN';

'>>61585240
Imagine not having variable suspension
This post was made by the hydropneumatic suspension gang';

'>1/3 of the abrams fleet already gone without causing a single casualty to Russia
Imagine saying this a year ago';

'>>61581310
He said it, he said the buzzword!';

'>>61581217
The Abrams has a horrendous Thermal signature compared to the Leo/Challenger.';

'>>61585330
>Russia finally learns that taking on western armour and anti-tank weapons is suicide
>they learn this after losing 120% of their pre-war tank fleet
> Are now heavily reliant on their outdated Cold War era tanks, with rudimentary additioms added to give tank crews a false sense of something being done to ensure their safety.
>Not at all cope.
Truly an enemy to be feared.';

'>>61586030
They're winning so yeah YOU SHOULD fear them.';

'>>61586040
the gloves are off, the buttcheecks clenched, the redline is crossed, the dick is sucked, day 800+ of the 2 day special operation is a success';

'>>61586040
>Winning
>Stuck in a war of attrition
>Economically ostracised
>Brain drain of all their talent
>Becoming a satellite state of China
>Still heavily reliant on their natural resources, like any other shit hole third world nation in Africa.
Amazing';

'>>61585255
Because from other angles it's obvious it's a T-80 with a cope cage';

'>>61581310
>by the time 4(2)chan went down in flames the entire site supported 16mb full sound webm/mp4
>this was over half a decade ago
Never4get';