'>>61582357
medicinal supplies for scrapes and a cleaning agent for his rifle';

'>>61582357
if you really wanna do something, give a night vision scope';

'>>61582357
Cigarettes, dip, zyn pouches, energy drinks, pogey bait (snacks like candy, beef jerky, etc). Even if you don't smoke or use you can always trade them to people who do.';

'>>61582357
What is the budget here?

Here's my half-assed list of "shit a grunt wants to have", other anons who have been grunts should add to it.

- Red lens headlamp
- Cheap, light multitool you don't give a fuck about losing or breaking
- Good socks, merino wool is the best choice here
- Good underwear that doesn't chafe, shooter's preference
- spare batteries, AA and AAAs are always needed
- A powerbank that doesn't suck ass

Don't give him a big ass knife, it's just more bullshit to carry around. If you have the budget, I'm sure he would appreciate a solid optic for his rifle, or some night vision. I guarantee his unit is short optics and night vision.';

'>>61582357
>for him
NOD
cash
>for her
a shoulder to cry on
your dick to suck';

'>>61582357
>cleaning supplies, medical and for equipment like rifle
>manuals for basic information, of course translated to Ukrainian/russian for easier understanding
>if possible, some night vision devices
>for the socks, some whool or whool blended synthetic is also good. As long as its easy to dry and antimicrobial
>probably better boots because standard issue can be a bitch';

'>>61582357
Thermal cloak';

'>>61582357
scour this for tips: https://ukrainevolunteer297689472.wordpress.com/
or contact Kyle Mizokami and ask him to suggest a packing list';

'>>61582419
Middle aged. Her brother is in her 30s and he's fighting too, but he signed up willingly two years ago';

'>>61582419
Not him, but conscription usually goes down the ladder when it comes to age. Older people die first and then the younger ones.';

'>>61582419
The Ukrainian military is unironically sending older men before their youth so they don't have a population crisis in the long term.

t. guy who actually bothers reading about this instead of just shitposting memes on some gay 4channel thread surrounded by retards baiting retards';

'>>61582419
Ukraine is kicking Russias ass dude';

'>>61582431
good of you to clarify, but there's really no point responding to vatnik bait';

'>>61582419
>Both sides using conscripts
>Clearly one side is losing, then.
lol, very impressive results from the second army of the world.';

'>>61582431
Sounds like wishful thinking really. The whole things a mess.';

'>Shelter
tent/bivy + waterproof footprint/groundsheet or tarp (silnylon),

>Sleep
Z Lite SOL sleeping pad
sleeping bag - synthetic (so it dries out easily) with a liner. Yes, get a liner.

>Pack
as light as your budget allows and as large as you can comfortable carry, you can use the sleep pad as an ersatz internal frame.

>Clothing
antimicrobial undergarments & socks.
insulating thermal mid- and outer-layers (thermal long johns, shirts, & packable down vest/coats)
waterproof rain shell (FROGG TOGGS are good on a budget)
insulated winter coat (packable is always nice)
glove liners, abrasion resistant work gloves, and thicker, insulated gloves for when they’re sitting around outside in the cold
heavy balaclava for sitting around in the cold, light skiing facemask or hat for when you’re moving around
Eye pro/sunglasses
Boots - comfortable and waterproof
>Mess kit
cat can stove (takes most liquid fuels, unbreakable)
lighter
800ml or larger cookpot/cup
spork
bandana (to handle hot cookpot)
>Hydration
aqua mira tablets
Bleach solution (cleans gear, treats water)
water bottle/bladder (I really like the Platy 2.0L Collapsible Water Bottle, they fold down flat)
water filter and case (keep this in a pocket in an inner layer to prevent it from freezing if you’re outdoors)
>Toiletries
toothbrush & toothpaste
floss
safety pins
ziplock & stuffsacks
latex gloves
lip balm
body wipes

>First Aid
splurge on this shit, everything from extra tourniquets to SAM splints, and plenty of extra meds (especially antibiotics, acetaminophen/tylenol, loperamide / Immodium, diphenhydramine / benadryl)
gauze pads
medical tape
duct tape
antiseptic wipes

>Misc

paracord & carabiners (endlessly useful, can be used to pull mines or tripwires, as a sling for weapons/gear, to make temporary shelter, or even to make a litter to move wounded)
multitool with a can opener, pliers etc';

'>>61582431
I actually see a shit ton of fighting age fresh from Ukraine trying to find work in my area, it’s interesting talking to them when they’re trying to get a job. The all more or less have the same talking points as the media but don’t see the irony.';

'How about 60 billion dollars?';

'A lot of optics are subject to itar but a 403r on a tws front sight micro mount would be a good cheap easy to pack optic and would work with any ak. Flashlight (g2x), paracord, multitool, 100mph tape, and a bivy also good';

'>>61582357
A black human size plastic bag';

'>>61582431
That’s no good, they recently lowered the draft age to like 25.';

'>>61582357
>moisture wicking socks
just from my experience camping/hiking and the fact I wear smart wool/Marino wool socks exclusively. yes. this is an extremely good idea. they are massively better than cotton socks in every way and will markedly improve his comfort every moment of every day.';

'>>61582357
>Ukrainian female friend's dad got conscripted. I want to help my friend assemble a care package for her dad
night vision
wool socks
good ifak from someone like london bridge
gps (no wifi, garmin or similar)
alcohol wipes
bore snake
hot water bottle
zip ties
solar battery recharger and set of aa and aaa for it
thermal blanket
boiled sweets
hexi stove
steel mug
wet wipes
nbc tape
thermal scope';

'>>61582357
lmaoing at all these numb nuts in this thread thinking they have good advice on what to send a conscript headed for fucking trench warfare';

'>>61582538
Go shit up another board, Pajeet.';

'>>61582538
But it’s against Russia, Russia sucks at war.';

'>>61582538
well it what i used >>61582532
so thanks for your bullshit';

'>>61582357
Gift him $15k so he can bribe his way to Romania';

'>this whole thread
GRIM';

'>>61582548
>Gift him $15k so he can bribe his way to Romania
he's not a vatnigger';

'>>61582553
Same same no?';

'>>61582357
Wet wipes, wet wipes, wet wipes (x24)';

'>>61582357
She's not going to sleep with you because you give her dad stuff.';

'I have a Nigerian prince who wants to know your number lmao.';

'>>61582493
>The all more or less have the same talking points as the media but don’t see the irony.
Like what? Media varies a lot country to country so I have no idea what your media is saying.';

'>>61582389
>Don't give him a big ass knife, it's just more bullshit to carry around
A survival knife that can be used for battoning might be useful, even if it's going to be kept in a trench and handed around to whoever needs it.
Maybe a survival hatchet might be better though, you know the kind.

A multitool will definitely be useful.
If you can get them, look into bamboo socks, they're antimicrobial and stay fresh for a long, long time.
Snacks run out quickly but some pepper and hot sauce can make life bearable.';

'>>61582709
>She's not going to sleep with you because you give her dad stuff.
That's probably not the reason she's sleeping with OP.
Might help make sure she continues to do so though.';

'>>61582357
>female friend
Ah geez dood. You need the care package nigga.';

'NODs are probably out of your price range and ITAR but send him some thermal optics, even the cheap chinese hunting cams are a useful supplement to your eyeballs
Oh and earpro';

'>>61582357
>I want to help my friend assemble a care package for her dad
im not sure where he is stationed, but
give him the name of a good pizza place,
and maybe have it uber-eats delivered to him
this one is in Rivne, ukraine
>*this is a REAL actual resturante in ukraine!*
>"EL PASO pizza", located in RIVNE, ukraine
Soborna St, 277, Rivne, Rivne Oblast, Ukraine, 33000
(below is their website!)
https://restaurantguru.com/Taverna-El-Paso-Rivne
THIS IS A *REAL* COMMERCIAL for El Paso Pizza™
.WEBM RELATED
it looks very tasty!
>*if you present a military ID (especially an airmen ID) you get 15% off! any deluxe BBC-POCCNR on the menu';

'>>61582809
>female friend
I think the whole thread might be subtle bait actually.';

'>>61582357
Gortex poncho liner (woobie) in woodland camo.
It is a light and easily packed blanket, and very warm. They are fairly cheap, especially as surplus. He won't need it now, but in 5 months....

Headlamp with several packs of spare batteries.

Ziploc bags. LOTS of ziploc bags.

Insect repellent.

A couple of roles of heavy-duty ducktape.

50 feet of 550-paracord (green rope/string, strong)

Chocolate of some kind (snickers minis, etc)';

'>>61582357
No futa porn? You're just a bad friend';

'>>61582357
Are you receiving pussy for this?';

'>>61582952
>that advertisement
my sides are officially in orbit';

'>>61583065
>Are you receiving pussy for this?
we've only talked online, but I think if i get this package made, and show her on facetime, she will finally meet up';

'>>61583069
>that advertisement
>my sides are officially in orbit
extra-dimensional levels of schadenfreude';

'>>61582357
Charter a private jet, go get her, bring her back and marry her.';

'>>61582357
A bunch of those thermal blankets from Amazon, tell him to line his clothes with them. Will help against thermal drones.';

'Help him leave ukraine. Better to be alive in romania, hungary, poland, or fuck it, even russia, than to be dead in the trenches';

'>>61583075
>we've only talked online, but I think if i get this package made, and show her on facetime, she will finally meet up
Now I know this is a bait thread.';

'>>61582357
plates? a good optic? Make sure it's kosher viz a viz ITAR. don't know if that'd be an issue';

'>>61582570
>Same same no?
nah the Ukrainians are people as far as I'n concerned only the Russians outspoken against putin should be left alive. Death to glavset.';

'>>61582357
Condoms ;)';

'>>61582766
NTA but I can hazard a guess:
>Ukraine can totally still win they just need a few more F-16s
>Putin = Hitler
>Russia will collapse any day now';

'>>61582357
Give him something he can use to injure himself so he can get out of dying for a hopeless war being forced on him by foreign government officials who don't give a shit about his life.';

'>>61582357
knock her up so he isnt afraid to die';

'>>61582357
Look up people in country or that have been and listen to them (any number of youtubers; nucking-futsyuri, Civ Div, BigMacsBattleBlog)

If money isn't that much of a consideration, Holosun/Aim Point Red Dot & a kill-flash for it [reflective to IR, gets people killed], Leatherman, warm under garments, soft body armor (over sized, cheap Italian surplus ones with the neck protection are nice), a lot of wool socks, Vitamin D3 + K2 in 10,000 IU or higher dosages (trenches are filthy and they aren't getting sunned, this keeps him healthy), Red Lens headlamp (night adjusted vision retention inside dug outs), a quality IFAK (do research), a bottle of Iodine for water and wound sterilization, KATADYN water purifier [ceramic filter more or less infinitely reusable on anything not chemically contaminated],

And anything he asks for specifically. Send family photo with whatever you do send and write regularly. Small things matter and a letter's tactile, unlike a phone call.';

'>>61582766
Back in the early days NATO just needs to enforce a no fly zone
Any day now Russia will collapse, they don’t even have ammo anymore
Russia is very bad at war
Ukraine just needs more people and equipment and they will totally win
If the west just gave them X then Russia would be done by now';

'What you need to do is look her straight in the eyes, and tell her that it is quite possible that her dad will not be coming back, and that she needs to accept this fact. Then tell her that if that does happen, you can be her new daddy.';

'>>61582419
>>61582422
stfu zigger
>>61582538
yeah, because if you're russian all you get is a cock up the ass...';

'>>61582357
nvgs,
head lamp
bore snake
pocket bible*
pocket mien kampf *
batteries
bug spray or the like
medical stuff
tourniquets
socks

*a must have';

'>>61582463
thats a high price tag for a dude about to get clipped in the first week';

'>>61582357
>purposely stays in the country
>you are utterly surprised that he is conscripted
>"what can I do to improve this situation because we all chose not to avoid it"

conscription is the best hope for people of your caste';

'>>61582357
get him a smuggler who can hide him in the trunk and drive him into poland so he can escape dying for the fucking kikes in that jewish war';

'>>61582431
is that why they are kidnapping pregnant women now for conscription?';

'>>61582357
Active hearing protection, cheap low power LED headlamp(s), small gardening shovel for personal latrine use, wet-wipes, ibuprofen, and lots of it.
In rough order of importance.
>- moisture wicking socks (merino wool? or synthetic)
Wool, wool doesn't melt to your skin even if on fire.';

'>>61582548
literally best post advice ITT';

'>>61583799
Proof?
Lets be honest though, you dont have any';

'>>61583812
i saw a video clip but i sure as shit am not searching the internet for it. you can if it matter to you';

'>>61583829
>schizo meltdown
so you made it up, but you're so braindamaged by internet addiction that you can't even tell that you made it up any more';

'>>61582357
Some good Night vision and a nice case to keep them in. Cigs and extra socks';

'>>61583848
>but you're so braindamaged by internet addiction that you can't even tell that you made it up any more
This is an excellent description of these nutjobs.';

'>>61582357
>Brynje Wool Thermo Mesh "Fishnet" Base Layer

Mesh is the best base layer both for heat and cooling given the airpocket offset. Scandifag lognshoremen & fishermen have brought old common sense back into style.';

'>>61582357
Tourniquet
Vitamins
Wet wipes/solar shower';

'>>61583848
They're just upset people care about Ukraine and their retarded fantasy doesn't get fulfilled. The more time goes by the more insane they sound because they spend most of their free time on some schizo subreddits only talking to other retards.';

'>>61582357
-forget that fuckhuge knive, its just weight/takes space. multitool has everything.
-lots of baby wipes. a true game changer in the trenches.
-2xwarm underwear
-whool socks, tell him to walk em in, as well as his shoes
-metal drinking flask/cantine for fire heating a tea or smth
-hansaplast of whatever medical tape to cover feet/heels
-smth personal from her to cheer him up in times of need, photo, letter, drawing etc.
-gas lighter
-rain poncho, the simple plastic sheet type that works as tent too
-thin rope, like 5-10 meters

godspeed and my Fortuna always be at his side';

'Send him some money to pay a smuggler to gtfo to Germany, if this is someone you actually care about.';

'get a rifle cleaning snake rope thingy, it makes cleaning ur rifle barrel so much faster.';

'>>61582357
>female friend';

'>>61583701
At least the guy who scavenges the equipment will be happy.';

'To the retards suggesting wool socks: are you aware that it's almost summer here?
They give you everything you need. Take some wet wipes, plastic trash bags, medical adhesive tape, spare usb cables, things like that.
Also the summer boots are very uncomfortable, buy something better if you can.
Buy a plate carrier, the state issued one sucks. And buy the fighting belt with Kevlar.';

'>>61583818
>dude trust me
typical vatnigger response';

'>>61585117
you can get thin wool socks for summer. It's a better fabric unironically than cotton';

'>>61582357
You should knock her up and send him pics of his grand kid.
I feel like fox seals and Israeli bandages would be really popular';

'>>61582463
also educate him about the CORRECT usage of tourniquets so that he won't get both his arms amputated because of a small cut.
also tell him about 149.200 Volga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_149.200

the problem is also that others might stole from him.';

'>>61582952
bumping just for this';

'>>61582357
>What else can I add to our care package?

- gooning material';

'>>61583402
You could be concerned as far as you'd like :)

However, if you visited the Balkans nowadays, you could have the unique opportunity to examine upclose both ziggers and hohols and their way of life. Obnoxious, entitled, nasty people...';

'>>61585925
Then maybe you want to support Ukraine so we don't get flooded with 10 million of their refugees, no? Or is that too complicated for you?';

'undefined';

'>>61585925
>You could be concerned as far as you'd like :)
>Ukrainians and Russians are both equally shit
)))';

'>>61582357
Fleshlight.';

'>>61583701
and even dead and buried they'd still be twice the man you are, pussy.';

'Here, faggots';

'>>61585973
I'll take 10 million of these refugees. Might convince the locals to stop acting up.';

'>>61586348
And twice the Ukrainian refugee pussy for the rest of us to help repopulate whatever the hell Ukraine is gonna be like after lol.';

'>>61582357
>What else can I add to our care package?
A coffin would be good in case he's lucky enough to not get vaporized';

'>>61586489
>And twice the Ukrainian refugee pussy for the rest of us to help repopulate whatever the hell Ukraine is gonna be like after lol.
2 times 0 is still 0, retard';

'>>61582357
Give him socks that heat up when connected to a power bank. Or shoe insoles that heat up when connected to power banks, Ukrainians have said that these are lifesavers when in trenches. Give him a small sewing kit
Please make sure that the heat able insoles you are giving him works. (and fit him)';

'how do you even mail powerbanks, aren't any sort of lithium ion batteries specifically barred from being mailed
fuck if i know how commercial sales work with them though';

'>>61587846
they are not barred from being mailed retard, they're just not allowed on passenger aircraft.
hazardous materials get air-shipped all the goddamn time.
we literally fucking invented mid-air refueling ffs';

'If you want daddy to come back alive...';

'>>61586489
It’s going to become new israel after they get flattened in a few years';

'>>61582357
>tactical flashlight
well it's disgusting, I know it's lonely in the trench, but it's her father, you could be more delicate';

'>>61582357
Why? Hes just going into the meat grinder';

'>>61582357
Why did he go along with it? What a cuck.';

'>>61583008
> and very warm
Yeah no. It's okay.';

'>>61582357
I'd send some Welch's fruit snacks. They have decent vitamin C and vitamin E. Also, send vitamin supplements.';

'Or you could help him avoid the draft so he doesn't die. Or are you hoping he dies so you can get your little /k/edditor willy wet?';

'Grim';

'>>61593365
That's what our western fanboys don't realize or tend to ignore. Our demographics is fucked beyond repair. 20-30 year olds are endangered species.';

'>>61582357
>He thinks anything of value will reach him
It'll be confiscated or put on "hold" until he either dies of old age or from a drone.';

'>>61593427
Better than Russia though. They are getting bled dry';

'WET WIPES';

'>>61585117
Merino is good year round, will wick sweat instead of sopping it up like cotton.';

'>>61582786
>battoning';

'>>61585238
>also tell him about 149.200 Volga
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_149.200
Imagine surrendering to snow nigerians';

'>>61596810
It doesn’t seem like captivity for either side is particularly enjoyable';

'>>61596363
They have more losses but it is sort of balanced out by the much bigger population';