'I still don't understand what's the point of these things?
>too heavy to go off road and work as a scout
>too light armored to use for combat
>too heavy armed against anything it should face
>too small to be used as an APC
>no ATGMs to be used as an IFV
It's just a city car.';

'>>61584692
Beating traffic';

'>>61584692
the french armored cars practice shoot and scoot';

'>>61584692
Maybe it has air conditioning';

'>>61584665
>Get in the Panhard, Mohammad';

'>>61584692
>>no ATGMs to be used as an IFV

Algeria put kornet + night camera on their pnahard';

'>>61584692
>I still don't understand what's the point of these things?
Because cool.';

'>>61584665
>we have the ratel at home';

'>>61584692
Cheap ambush vehicles.';

'>>61584806
>>61584692
the new EBRC Jaguar has ATGM alongside its 40mm autocannon';

'I guess you could use this as a discount IFV for small scale assaults, or a defense turret for small camps, or scouting in areas will low enemy presence.
As long there isn't mud or river crossings.';

'I guess I get it. You have combat areas that have certain threat levels. Your resources are limited, you want to use the best stuff in high threat areas.
Armored cars can be used to cover low threat areas.';

'>>61584692
>too heavy armed against anything it should face
I'm trying not to be condescending here, but can you explain what the fuck this means? You don't dictate what your recon units face, because if you did know what what they're going to face and where, to the extent that you can tailor their route to avoid things they cant handle; then recon is largely unnecessary. This bizarre western notion that recon vehicles should be lightly armed is nothing more than a concession to keep them fast, if you can maintain speed while having an autocannon then there is no reason not to have one for the sake of overmatch on enemy recon units.';

'>>61584931
>>61584902
An underrated thing about these things is that they're great for security. Imagine encountering one of these things at, say, 1200 meters distance at dawn when you're a SOF patrol or an infantry platoon doing ambush/raiding/patrol/scout work in the enemy's rear. You pull an ATGM out of your ass before it can spot you and begin firing (it has thermals+LRF lmao). That's your option. There are no other options.';

'Tank power with truck speed';

'>>61584866
>we also have ratel at home';

'>>61584692
It's mainly for low to medium intensity operation where you need firepower (well beyond GPMG or even HMG) but not to the point of bringing an actual tank. bonus that the gun could be used for anti fortification or as an impromptu field gun';

'>>61584947
>You don't dictate what your recon units face
You'll be very lucky to use this as a recon unit. You are not going to use it somewhere where it can regularly encounter MBTs and IFVs. You'll be using this where the biggest threat is infantry or other armored cars. Are you going to put a huge gun on every car just because there's 1% chance it can encounter a tank?';

'>>61584988
I mean the gun on this thing is low pressure and, while it can fire APFSDS, apparently does only 100mm @ 60 at 1 km. You're not going to use this against tanks. Why are you coping?';

'>>61584992
The point is that these things will probably never see actual combat.They are just infantry taxis and backup, it won't be used in serious combat situations. A 50 cal and a ATGM would be enough.';

'>>61585015
>will probably never see actual combat
How can you look at Vietnam, Desert Storm, Iraqi Freedom, or Ukraine and say that?';

'>>61585027
Not to mention the entirety of bush wars and rhodesian conflict';

'>>61584960
>>61584866
>>61584826
>>61584665
90mm is useless in the modern age

Should be a 25/30mm chain gun plus ATGMs';

'>>61585071
Fuck off warriortard. 25mm is shit';

'>>61585071
south africans liked their 90mm better than autocannons. and i see in a bush war a 90mm cannon has its uses';

'>>61585027
>Ukraine
So you can show how armored cars were used in combat?
>>61585046
It can be good for shithole wars, OK.';

'>>61585094
>>So you can show how armored cars were used in combat?
Is this fucking bait?';

'>>61584665
>take a turn going over 35 kph
>why are we flipping ivan
>flip flip flip';

'Wheeled IFVs look superior to tracked IFVs';

'>>61585094
Name 5 wars that happened in "non-shithole" country in the last 4 decade';

'>>61585110
the global war on terror happened in every country on earth :)';

'>>61584692
Armor has become obsolete since everything under the fucking sun turns them into pressure cookers, so you might as well go light and fast.';

'>>61585102
You can't?';

'>>61585125
You're retarded and don't even deserve a response.';

'I like the armament on the m1117 better. A remote .50 and a remote 40mm GMG is a potent combo. The 90mm gun does have utility as an assault gun. In my mind you would have it positioned behind the line and troops would call it up to dump HE into a building or fortified position.';

'>>61584692
Good for long-range + low logistical burden, so easy to deploy and keep in the field. Its why they're so popular in Africa, where theres a lot of ground to cover, and most cant really afford the logistical burden of keeping lots of tanks in the field for a long time. They mostly face infantry and technicals but they can take out tanks, theyre very good off road so idk where you get that from, look at how the saffers used the rooikat.';

'>>61584665
…Could you put a Cockerill 90mm gun on a humvee and have it work out alright?';

'>>61584826
Wut ist das?';

'>>61584692
>can be airlifted easily
>small logistical footprint
>can be configured with several different turrets
>electrical/hybrid engine = low noise levels = stealthy
>small profile
>powerful optics
>wheeled so presumably fast on hard ground
>cheap
some armies still need this sort of things';

'>>61588928
vickers mk11';

'>>61584692
It's for dictators too poor to afford a big army but smart enough to care about logistics n'shieet. Think small Arab countries and the Sahel region. When some rebels in a cinderblock compound get butthurt and shoot off AKMs, your troops need something fast, reliable, and uncomplicated to help them, because they're not exactly highly trained, motivated, or willing to die in an even fight. These cannon-cars are easier to maintain than tanks, cheap, bulletproof, quick enough to respond in time, and they can safely and cheaply blow up cinderblock buildings. They're the modern version of an assault gun, specifically for killing militias.';

'>>61588783
Even for "low velocity" 90mm the recoil will tear that puny little car in half';

'>>61584692
It's a technical with a 90mm gun, what is there to understand?';

'>>61585116
>global war
>not wars
That's only one :)';

'>>61584876
sexiest looking vehicle on Earth (i want to fuck one)';

'>>61591033
>grossly misunderstood the term "technical"
>hurr what's there to understand?';

'>>61584692
Africa';