'>>61589593
A nuclear bomb, not even a large one, just a 15kt nuclear bomb hits the reservoir section and lands in the water, it'll send shockwaves that hit like a tsunami and break several sections of the wall simultaneously';

'>>61589593
The dam that the Brits blew up in WW2 was also a gravity dam made of steel and concrete. If damaging one portion of the dam wouldn't cause catastrophic failure, what about two? Or three? Or 100 cruise missiles simply eroding away the top of it until spillover accomplishes the rest of the destruction?';

'>>61589636
China has 400 bomb, Amelika has 3700, enough to turn all of China into death and melted plastic';

'>>61589648
The dams damaged by Operation Chastise are on orders of magnitude smaller and weaker than the Three Gorges dam.';

'>>61589636
>He doesn't realize starshield is a VERY thinly veiled brilliant pebbles
Lmao
Use em or lose em chang';

'>>61589676
We have bombs today that are orders of magnitude larger in terms of explosive power today imagine the bouncing bombs but 5Mt';

'>>61589691

I don't think modern countries are insane enough to use nuclear weapons (yet)';

'>>61589593
All that's needed is a few hits on the spillways (to create uneven surfaces and encourage cavitation) then on the spillway gates in the rainy season.

The choice is then to either accept that the spillway will be fucked and potentially the dam structure itself. Or to hold the water back to allow repairs and risk overtopping.';

'HIIIIGHWAY TOOOO THE DANGER ZONE';

'>>61589694
Ching chong been earning our wrath. We might just nuke the gook.';

'>>61589676
The bouncing bombs were 1/3rd the size and an order of magnitude less precise than a MOP, and the b2 can carry two. Hit three gorges with enough 30 thousand pound, laser accurate bunker busters and it'll breach enough for the literal planet altering mass off water behind it to do the rest.

Alternatively, just hit the upstream dams and let gravity do the work for you';

'>>61589711
This attitude is why China added over 300 new nuclear silos. You are not immune to MAD.';

'>>61589593
Why do you keep making this thread, slanty?';

'>>61589721
Wow cool multi thousand strong satellite swarm Elon, what's it for?';

'>>61589741
I fucking love how space based weaponry looks';

'>>61589741
This is my new favorite dumb conspiracy.

Do you think the DirectTV satellites are also space lasers?';

'>>61589721
They might hit us a few times but there isn't going to be anything left of China for any of the bug men to return home to.';

'Why the fuck do we have to have this thread every week ?';

'>>61589746
Technically they could be considered weak masers';

'>>61589593
Japan & Taiwan both possess missiles capable of striking anywhere on the mainland, and will be equipped with nuclear payloads given the decades of 'energy cooperation'. What Moscow & Beijing are doing - and have always been doing and planning - is the worst kept secret in the world, and only tolerated to circle the world-historic drain for so long as it is an expedient funding modality that gets Us into space. That patience has limits, especially after the gain of function GMO release in Summer 2019.';

'>>61589756
Because /k/ is regularly targeted by spammers with personal (autistic) agendas who make the same threads constantly.';

'>>61589756
Would you prefer a nice J-20 thread instead?';

'>>61589763
>Japan and Taiwan
>will be equipped with nuclear payloads given the decades of 'energy cooperation'.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh';

'>>61589746
>Conspiracy theory
Absolute buffoon. Even with falcon 9, but especially with starship coming online, the ONLY thing stopping the US from deploying brilliant pebbles is desire. The actual satellites are dead simple and just require mass production of something we've made hundreds of before. The only issue is launch price, and if starship works that becomes a non issue.

So the only question becomes do to think th US government would pay a few billion to guarantee space superiority forever + make themselves completely immune to ICBMs?';

'>can barely handle normal operations
>but the country where lying is considered normal and acceptable and people get thrown in jail for questioning the government said that it could handle a fucking nuke so im sure its fine
https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/three-gorges-dam-deformed-but-safe-say-operators/';

'>>61589848
Those images have already been proven to be doctored.

You can check for yourself on any free overhead site.';

'>>61589593
it's kind of irrelevant because gravity dams are still susceptible to overtopping, undermining and rolling, additionally, if a portion of it does fail, it still drains the reservoir, which is catastrophic. if it is significantly overtopped, it is likely to fail completely or at least over such an area that it doesn't much matter if it didnt all fail.';

'>>61589800
>So the only question becomes do to think th US government would pay a few billion to guarantee space superiority forever + make themselves completely immune to ICBMs?
Or rather, the question becomes do you think the US govenrment would pay a few billion to commit national suicide by forcing an immediate use-it-or-lose-it dilemma on all other nuclear powers, which will nigh-inevitably result in at least one of them launching an immediate first strike before your brilliant pebbles meme can go online.

ABM and assorted idea were never a technology problem. They were always a political and strategic problem, due to any attempt at implementation being inherently liable to provoke pre-emptive attack.';

'>>61590131
Lol, lmao

Thirdies actually believe this';

'>>61590180
Jokes on you the US is a third world country now too. How’s it feel to be the most self loathing nation on the planet?
But seriously people are delusional if they think 300 nukes will utterly annihilate the US, half would be intercepted, then maybe only half of those would be pointed at population centers. It will be brutal and there will be millions death but like. Murica lives on.';

'>>61590149
just lie about it? put ten extra "classified payloads" on every Starlink flight on Starship (they have classified payloads that we have no idea what they are on almost every Starlink flight these days) and nobody will know until you turn it on';

'>>61589593
>Three Copes Dam is back on the menu
Can't wait for you insects to try to invade Taiwan and see if Zhang Boting is right or if he is just comfortably bribed like anyone else in his position would be.';

'>>61589593';

'>>61590284
I know the war in Ukraine is proof “nothing ever happens” chuds were incorrect but I highly doubt anything will ever happen between China and Taiwan. Just another century of Kvetching over it';

'We all know that America, if it really wanted to, could blow up the Three Gorges Dam, that's a given.

Here's the question I have,

Could Taiwan do it?';

'>>61590307

I honestly agree. China, at the very minimum, needs America out of the picture before it can make any move against Taiwan. And the only two ways that is happening is

A. NATO and Russia glass each other in a general nuclear exchange, assuming China doesn't get glassed too (unlikely).

B. America collapses into civil war

Both are possible, the latter is arguably inevitable, but both aren't really happening in the foreseeable future either.';

'>>61590307
The Ukraine war is a nothing burger compared to what people said would happen.

Until tactical nukes are used it is still a nothing burger';

'>>61590131
From national existence? No, not in the least. At least 400 warheads alone are needed to target our missile silos, plus that still leaves airbases, submarine bases, command and control centers, and me who’s horny for gook pussy';

'>>61590967
What exploded in China today?';

'>>61590967
>>cannot rescue bbc bribes from illegal bbcs
homosexual jew spotted coping with buck broken cucks';

'>>61590967
>"implessive"
who are you quoting';

'>>61589767
Oh god is that really the best looking chink bugs they could bring out?';

'>>61589593';

'>>61589658
> has 400 bombs

If you believe this you're probably 12.';

'I'm beginning to suspect that these pro-china threads aren't actually created by chinks but by muricans who can then justify shitting on the chinks in the rest of the thread comments.';

'>>61591220
>They'll fight Taiwan like Russia fighting Ukraine
>In other words spend years fighting and lose hundreds of thousands of men to try to claim a parking lot';

'>>61591220
>The template for becoming an international pariah and being cut off from trade and destroying your export-reliant economy is already in place:
>(the rest of the stupid shit you said goes here)';

'>>61589648
Even if the whole dam doesn't come down, wouldn't the whole reservoir still drain through any failed section?';

'Nobody bothers asking what happens AFTER Taiwan bombs the Three Gorges Dam and kills hundreds of millions.

Now you have hundreds of millions of pissed-off yellow commies who won't hold back and will bomb Taiwan into rubble.';

'>>61591262
I guess hypothetically if you poked a hole in it, you wouldn't cause catastrophic flooding immediately.';

'>>61591252
taiwan would fit well inside the portion of ukraine that russia controls though.';

'>>61591263
the US has a treaty with Taiwan, NOT with Ukraine.';

'>>61591277
I could see holes being patched, but you're not rebuilding a whole segment before the reservoir drains completely.';

'>>61589593
>Is TGD resistant to nukes?
Nope. Ain't no such a thing.';

'>>61590149
Anon, this is why you arent a world power. You are a shit poster on the internet. Let me help.

Do you know why books like 1984, Yukikaze, or even the absurdist takes of the Simpsons tv show at times predict the future? Because they follow logical acceleration. A simple thought exercise of "if this than that, if this than that, which is countered by this which requires that, which eventually ends us up at this end state." now when you factor in known technology, and anticipated technology, as well as what resources are available, you now have a theory of constraints.

Not only your own constraints, but your opposition's constraints.

So, we have dystopian AI not because it was forecasted by the illuminati, or that we exist in a state of absolute cruelty because of sadism, but because macro level survivalism of states demands it.

We will have or already have space-based weaponry, and the rest is just the bleating of the sheep on both sides, and pageantry to convince the world that the war wasn't already concluded.

Do you know why the US doesn't rule the earth ala Pax Britonia? Because the model is annoying and is easier done with self governance and DeFacto subservience to strategic demands.

Do not mistake my statement for assuming the average American benefits from this in any way; we do not. we are must slaves as the average Chinese citizen. But make no mistake, the US is the symbol of authority for good reason. If China or any nation had the means to do a decapitation strike and survive, they would have. They do not. Everything else is just pageantry and theater. Good will, risk, and altruism do not exist at the strategic level.';

'>>61591316
It could be resistant but nothing is impervious. We will never know until something actually happens to it whether it be nature flipping the bird at China, sabotage, or an actual strike at it.';

'>>61591220
The US doesn't have a history with Ukraine. For Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, or the Philippines we will spill American blood.';

'>>61589593
No.
You dont have to break a section to destroy a gravity dam, you just need to put a hole in it and let physics do the rest
Ironically enough a nuke would probably be less efficient in this role than a conventional missile, unless the US has been secretly developing some sort of nuclear BROACH warhead';

'>>61591289
Taiwan is like Switzerland surrounded by a 100 kilometer moat.
Not only that, Taiwan has modern anti-ship missiles and an extensive network of underground tunnels and bunkers. It will be like Iwo Jima with China using all of its rockets only to find out that they only killed a few thousand civilians.';

'>>61590722
UKRAINONAZIS ARE USING DEPLETED URANIUM NUCLEAR SHELLS IN ABRAHAM TANKS. YOU ARE VERY LUCKYY PUTIN HAS NOT GLANCED YOUR WAY!!';

'>>61591360
Taiwan has two hollowed out mountains like Switzerland but filled with fighter jets and modern long range anti-ship/AA missiles ready to deploy.
Anyone who thinks China is just going to take Taiwan is fucking high.';

'>>61591325
this anon Knows';

'>>61591405
What about China and the deserts?';

'>>61589767
Chinese war brides are going to be a big commodity';

'>>61589857
Chinese dragon strong.';

'>>61589756
OP is a Changcuck who enjoys this kind of fantasy.';

'>>61590722
>russia committing slow suicide over a shithole backwoods nation
>nothingburger';

'>>61589857
Chang cope';

'>>61591456
>nothingburger
Really is . If Russia collapses everyone will realize that nothing really changes and they've been irrelevant for a long time .

4chan won't even be more usable because other trolls will just pick up the slack';

'>>61591424
You don't have to defeat China to defeat China. Once all of their warships are sunk that will be it. If China can't land and support 200k+ infantry in Taiwan, their chances of taking it are zero.';

'>>61589593
>>61589676
And they held back orders of magnitude less water. You have to remember that the Dam is always fighting against the water.
If there is a leak and the water rushes in, then the momentum will probably take away the rest of it.';

'>>61589721
China lacks the capacity to hit anything beyond Alaska and the West Coast. It's not MAD; it's total Chink anhilation and the US loses California at worst. Honestly a win-win';

'>>61589658
>enough to turn all of China into death and melted plastic
So not much will change?';

'>>61591493
Honestly, it will be an improvement.';

'>>61589778
Japan and Korea would be able to assemble a few nukes without much trouble. Both have active nuclear power plants that they could harvest material from and japan was working on a breeder reactor.';

'Now I'm beginning to wonder why Egypt hasn't bombed the Ethiopian Grand Renaissance Dam yet.
Egypt's military is fully capable of doing it. The longer they wait, the more difficult and dire destroying the dam is going to get.';

'>>61589746
DirecTV doesn't have a historical relationship with DARPA and the DOD at large.

https://www.darpa.mil/about-us/timeline/falcon-htv-2';

'Everyone who talks about blasting the Three Gorges forgets two important weaknesses:
1: There are smaller dams above it. Blast those. Even if the subsequent river tsunami doesn't bust TGD it will clog and damage the sluices and ship elevator.
2. If you must bust TGD itself, don't bother with the bulk of the dam. Blast the ship elevator.';

'>>61590320
No. Obviously not.';

'>>61589767
china is decades behind on femboy technology.';

'>>61591484
>California
Idk, anon. Central valley of California is a major producer of food for the USA. Fuck the coastal areas though.';

'What is/k/'s preoccupation with this dam?
Yes, it can be destroyed. Like anything else on Earth. Why do we keep discussing this?';

'>>61591573
China thinks their precious dam which provides power to 60% of their entire shithole of a country is invincible';

'>>61591595
Is this China in the room with us right now?';

'>>61589593
Resistant? Sure. Most large structures are resistant to sudden stress by virtue of being massive.';

'>>61591595
>60%

lmao, you joker you. More like the dam provides 10% of China's energy needs.
People here MASSIVELY inflate the Dam's importance to China.';

'>>61591573
Its a shitposter you retard.';

'>>61591484
>US loses California

Losing such a massive knowledge, industrial capacity, tourism revenue, and technology base is NOT a win-win.
It's like people here think they can just completely live a rural life, metro areas be damned.';

'>>61591625
it's enough that if the dam were to collapse the world would lose 15% of its collective economic output, that dam produces a lot for China.';

'>>61591642
*manufacturing output';

'>>61589593
It is impossible to make a dam that can survive a hit from even a Hiroshima yield nuclear explosion';

'>>61591639
no one cares fuck california';

'>>61589767
Those are dudes, aren't they';

'>>61591664
you say that now, but you'll be sorry when it happens.';

'>>61591325
yup';

'>>61591679
no i wont';

'>>61589593
TGD
TKD
TND
TTD
TSD';

'>>61589593
>TGD
>total gook death
Ironic';

'>>61589710
>gravity bomb
MacArthur would be proud, but only a little. If we brought picrel back he'd return from the dead to nuke China himself.';

'>>61589741
I think this was the plot of Time Crisis 2';

'>>61589721
the chinese had water filled missiles. those bunkers are probably leaking like the screen door on one of their submarines.';

'>>61589756
because /k/ is full of faggots and shills. the wumao need to keep up their social credit score for the glory of winnie the pooh.';

'>>61591670
if theyre not, the chicoms got some minging hags.';

'>>61589593
Yellowstone supervolcano is resistant to nukes?';

'>>61589857
>5 dc-rmb has been deposited in your social credit score acct citizen. keep up your quota or face reeducation for the glory of Xi ping.';

'>>61590149
>the question becomes do you think the US govenrment would pay a few billion to commit national suicide by forcing an immediate use-it-or-lose-it dilemma on all other nuclear powers, which will nigh-inevitably result in at least one of them launching an immediate first strike
people asked this in the 1950s and everyone else besides the USA blinked. heres a newsflash for you. We already had bright pebble 45 years ago, and working DEWs in the mid 70s';

'>>61591859
If you were to nuke Yellowstone you'd probably make it permanently inert. All of that force at one time would scatter the layer built on top of it into the atmosphere and the volcano would spill over instead of exploding.';

'>>61590131
your country will only have nukes, when the usa drops them on you.';

'>>61591273
lol, theyll stand around with their mouths open like retards waiting for a command from on high. or kill and cook small children. or go back to gambling and wait for bodies to wash up for them to loot.
>>61591573
because wumao have SMALL PENISES and think CHINESE DRAGON STRONK!!!';

'>>61591339
Depends on where you put it. Even a "little" SADM if placed at the base of the wet side will utterly fuck up the damn';

'>>61589767
Right > Left';

'>>61590149
How will you know the system isn't already up? Will you try nuking the US, only to discover Brilliant Pebbles is already in place, your entire salvo gets deleted, and then America has both the ability and the moral justification to begin levelling your cities without repercussions?';

'>>61589767
that plane is a plywood mockup.
look at the wing underside an the tip. the landing gear. the bay.
did they upscale a tamiya 1:48 model kit again?

and the poor lady on the right shouldnt be made to wear heels, it hurts her feet, see plaster

how many b61-12 are needed by the japs to bring that dam down? i ´d say one into the sluice is enough. maybe even a conventional one in that part of the buidling will do.';

'>>61591481
If Russia collapses there would be suddenly much less refugees in Europe only some Chinese and Israeli efforts would still be there but not on the scale of Russia which destabilzed whole regions in Africa and then pumped propaganda there to get them to the EU';

'>>61589658
>believing in the CCP's claims

>>61589593
Wasn't there a panic a few years back about it overflowing so they decided to sacrifice some downstream cities to avoid the thing from bursting? Also why the fuck do people build homes in such flood plains to begin with? It wouldn't have even been the first time a major dam burst open wiped out all the residence in the first place given some Chinese war lords during Japans invasion of Manchuria thought it be a 'great idea' to flood the Japanese army out, by sacrificing a bunch of Chinese cities.... One of the reasons people originally turned against the ROC but I guess some things never change regardless of government.

What is it about China and intentionally flooding themselves anyway?

>>61591573
Take your pick, CIAniggers? FSBniggers? MOSSADniggers? Mi6niggers? Doesn't matter, /k/ has been flooded with them since 2016.';

'>>61591544
>Central valley of California is a major producer of food for the USA
I live in Ohio, we can pick up the slack. Plus the US exports a fuckton of food, so if we were ever in dire nutritional states, we could just stop exporting';

'>>61591147
I'd still sling their knees over my arms, fuck them against the jet, and cum inside them desu';

'>>61591859
Imagine how fertile the ground would be after this';

'>>61591339
Casaba howitzer';

'>>61593189
>Also why the fuck do people build homes in such flood plains to begin with?
Settlements were built where fertile land and convenient transport routes were readily available. The floods of centuries past weren't as devastating as the 20th century ones. The meandering routes the rivers took through the valleys, the marshes and woods and such all served to slow down the flow. When the river flooded, it wasn't a cataclysmic event like in the later periods, it was just all part of a natural cycle that the people adjusted to. As more land along the length of the river and its tributaries was deforested and/or cultivated into farmland, the rate at which floodwaters could flow into the main stream grew, and the megafloods (1931, 1935, 1954) that the river is now infamous for became possible.

Given the region's importance, the political will to relocate settlements and industry never materialized, and the can was instead kicked down the road by building dams and reservoirs to "manage" the river. Thus it remains today.

My money btw is on a landslide causing an overtopping of the dam. The landscape surrouding the river is fast eroding and climate change means that intense periods of rainfall that trigger liquefaction of soil in the mountainside will happen more frequently.';

'>>61590337
China is Taiwan's largest import and export market, and that includes a lot of parts that are vital to Taiwan's semiconductor industry. China doesn't have the means to invade Taiwan but if they really wanted to cripple Taiwan they could do it without firing a shot.';

'>>61589593
A lot of the destructive power of a nuke comes from the massive shockwave it generates, which is enough to level buildings

A giant slab of reinforced concrete is not as susceptible.

For example, the Jesuit mission at Nagasaki survived the bomb since, unlike the wooden Japanese structures, it was reinforced masonry.

Now, if the nuke landed directly near the Dam, it's fucked';

'>>61589746
I mean if you wanted to put ballistic missile interceptors in orbit, right above enemy launch sites, this is how you would do it.';

'>>61593952
Or if it landed in the reservoir. The Crossroads tests showed that nukes are an order of magnitude more destructive if they detonate underwater.';

'>>61591642
>>61591644
From the resultant megafloods, not from losing the dam's power.
>>61589593
The CCP has also explicitly promised nuclear counter value strikes in retaliation to a deliberate bursting of TG (and presumably any of those "way funnier targets" upstream that these threads also eventually mention), so it's already a non-starter.';

'>>61589756
Revenge for the Chinese paddlefish and Yangtze River dolphin.';

'>>61595235
If we're hitting TG we'll be hitting China's missile silos too. We have about 900 nukes in the water ready to go right now and even we don't know where they are but they're all ready to launch on China';

'>>61589593
Isn't there a smaller dam uphill that could be destroyed to cause it to flood?';

'>>61595235
And what happens if the country who blows the dam open is some fodder country like NK or Taiwan?';

'>>61596525
Crazy Chinaman drops a bundle of dynamite on the lock of an upstream dam, the resulting water destroys several sections of TG causing the dam to spill over and kill 100 million people';

'>>61596543
in that case nk means northern kentucky and taiwan is part of china so they cant do anything';

'>>61596637
you know, what's to stop someone from doing this at any time? there's so many usable targets over such a wide area, and china can't possibly be protecting every one effectively let alone the entire lengths of the rivers. what if some crazy dude/ plausibly deniable foreign asset actually tried this?';

'>>61597480
Guards';

'>>61589593
>believing Chinese engineering claims
Anon. The Chinese regularly use poor quality concrete to swindle government funding.';

'>>61591859
you would need to get the nukes deep underground before detonation';

'>>61593995
Well moving millions of cubic meters of water is a lot more destructive than moving millions of cubic meters of air.
Especially at that speed.';

'>>61590221
>>61590180
>>61590131
>nukes drop on California and New York
>US demographics roll back to 1950s numbers
>central banks gone
>/b/ stops getting spammed with BBC cuck threads';

'>>61589767
They have ugly booth babes so the plane looks better in comparison.';

'>>61593944
We all remember "The Dark Winter" zigger cope here, mate.';

'>all the recrooooters ITT trying to fill their quota by shilling for a nuclear war with China
Spineless fags.';

'>>61599888
>nukes drop on California and New York';

'>>61593200
We could stop exporting right now, but if the growers (and their corporate handlers) can get a better price overseas, that's where the food is going. See: domestically produced oil.';

'>>61589756
>Why the fuck do we have to have this thread every week ?

The bigger question is:
Why don't we have ID's and flags so we can filter out this garbage and, as such, it will kill itself?';

'>>61599888
>>/b/ stops getting spammed with BBC cuck threads

being anti-semitic aint cool';

'>>61600702
>>61600700
lmao vatniks projecting again';

'>>61589648
Blow up the lock gate with even with a drone. Water floods out of reservoir at very high rate. Dam rebounds inwards at very fast rate and collapses on itself.
Many papers and studies have been done about it. The reservoir emptying out at rapid rates via the lock would collapse it. It's got all this pressure pushing it one way and down. Imagine it all shifting very fast the other and the reservoir bottom shifting straight up. It high lows itself.
Fascinating stuff really.';

'>>61599888
Oh wow, and all it took was crippling the entire country! Based!

There are also far more browns and blacks around the country than you like to think, especially in the south';

'>>61590131
Here are the 333 most populated US cities.
It amount to about 98 millions people.
Most would need a couple of nukes each to be wiped.
Still, even if a single nuke was enough for each and if you wiped 100 more cities, you would not even kill half of the USA's population.
That would be enough to strip them of their position of Hegemon but it would still be a nation more populated than Russia, with a territory choke full of natural ressources, along with a air fleet, navy and nuclear stockpile largely untouched.
That's not even going into their diplomatic network and how the rest of NATO would react to the situation.';

'>>61600835
>When you fuck up and forget the link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population';

'>>61591573
2 related reasons:
>The dam contains a massive volume of water behind it
>Large concentrations of the Chinese population, industry, etc. are down-stream of it
Blowing-up the dam means you could theoretically kill millions of chinks and completely cripple the country's economy. This makes it a good subject for shitposting, mostly by holding it over Chang's head as he babbles about how "implessive" his shitty aircraft carriers are.';

'>>61600809
So you're saying that both the CCP and ZOG would be destroyed?';

'>>61600854
>The dam contains a massive volume of water behind it
>Large concentrations of the Chinese population, industry, etc. are down-stream of it
I like your style, anon';

'>>61600809
I can see it happening if they actually tried to nuke. Responding with a borderline genocide at that point would probably be seen as an acceptable and appropriate move, both domestically and internationally. Otherwise, it probably won't happen. Also
>Implying America cares about Russia's pinions anymore
Those guys are a complete non-factor in this scenario.';

'>>61600922
>Responding with a borderline genocide at that point would probably be seen as an acceptable

The yanks were very much ready to annihilate every single one of the sons and daughters of Amaterasu after Pearl Harbor.
That resolve only increased as the japs kept attacking other US bases and fleets.

Should China make the mistake of starting shit with a nuke and the even biggest mistake of succeeding, they would disappear from History.';

'>>61600835
it also, distinctly, would not impact the US's ability to wage war in the short term';

'>>61600984
This too indeed.
Chain of command would even be a lot more streamlined.
Domestic opposition to drinking from the skulls of enemy's women and children would be minimal as well.
Legal concerns would also be waved.
The US would have permission to behave like a third world country while still having the largest arsenal on Earth.';

'>>61591437
>>61591459
>>61591885
He's right you know?
The two pictures come from different mapping sources, with the right pic coming from Google.
Google satellite view is intentionally distorted over Chinese mainland.
Load up Google Maps and check for yourself.';

'>>61600809
You vastly overestimate how much the rest of the world cares about mainland chinese
>people';

'>>61601241
they only care if people die';

'>>61601111
If news came out today that San Francisco had been vaporized, half the country wouldn't believe it and the other half would be celebrating it.';

'>>61601241
A few hundred million dead is basically just a border scuffle by ancient Chinese standards.';

'>>61601241
No, the world would not care. A good deal of the world would celebrate';

'>>61589593
Water is liquid, it stops being held back when the bowl it's in cracks. Chinkshill is retarded as usual.';

'>>61591221
>>61593189
You're right, they probably sold the fuel in those things.';

'>>61589593
>The belly of the dragon will drip water.';

'>>61591273
>and kills hundreds of millions.
More like millions at most, because the rest have a lot of time to evacuate';

'>>61600807
The U.S. can drop 340KT dial a yields from stealth aircraft the Chinese can’t detect, and we also have about 900 or so warheads on Ohio class submarines enough to fully warm the lo mein noodles.';

'>>61601241
South America and Africa are going to be pissed if the Chinese stop giving them “no questions asked” loans that they never intend to repay
Other than that, after COVID nobody gives an actual fuck about Chinese people.';

'>>61589593
>Zhang Boting suggested that concrete gravity dams are resistant to nuclear strikes.
Except they can and have been blown up with conventional explosives just fine.

Not sure if retarded or coping about the fact that his country has a gigantic strategic liability that will eventually cause the worst humanitarian catastrophe in history (if you count chinks as humans), even without any belligerent foreign military action against it.';

'>>61591859
Good luck of that goes.
The entire world is fucked. A small volcano Mt Pinatubo blew up in '91 it caused the world's temp to go down for 2 years.
Over here in Singapore we had ash raining down on us for a few weeks.
Imagine Yellow stone goes out. We can kiss goodbye to Crop harvest all over the world.';

'>>61590307
>Chud';

'>>61601241
My dude, nobody on the planet likes chinamen.';

'>>61591242
>Going that far to shit on chinks
Based burgers.';

'>>61591639
Oh no we'll lose the knowledge of pronouns and tourism of places that have maps of where people open defecate like it's fucking India. Give me the button, I'll push it myself. Urban areas are pointless with modern logistics.';

'>>61599175
They're Chinese, 4'10" with guns that keyhole at ten feet. One burlyfat /k/ommando who works at a warehouse and has a poverty pony he built himself could wipe them out like the Terminator at a preschool.';

'>>61599839
They use a thin layer of poor quality concrete over dirt, styrofoam, or corn cobs, don't sugarcoat it.';

'They had hydrologists telling the party to stop due to the immense risks but of course why would the CCP listen? Today the dam doesn't even provide 1% of the enegy needs, it was supposed to fulfill 10% of the country's electricity demand but that increased tenfold.';

'>>61600753
Only gender studies departments will be crippled, and freak shows.';

'>>61600807
Good fucking luck lmao

>>61600809
What powers? Which Eurocuck country can beat the US?';

'>>61603514
>solo
>4 nations
Ok buddy';

'>>61600835
Not only this, but if you launched on the US we have over a dozen Ohio class nuke subs in the water prepared to launch back, and you don't know where they are, and we don't know where they are, and they know where you are, and they're going to be enacting doomsday scenario #1 on Chinese soil.';

'>>61603855
>We...we have them too !
China has 6 SSBN
Each with a grand total of 12 missiles
None of that is MIRV.
That's 72 warheads.

USA has 18 Ohio-class SSBN
Each can deliver 20 missiles, with MIRV capacity for up to 12 warheads per missile.
That's up to 4320 warheads.

We are not the same, Chang';

'>>61603949
True, but they'd increase their arsenal if tensions started getting hot.

The 8th graders on this board fantasizing the death of millions of their own countrymen is bizarre form nationalism cringe.';

'>>61603949
To be honest, only 14 of those Ohio-class can now carry SLBM.
The other 4 can each carry 154 cruise missiles, which are nuclear-capable.
So that's 616 warheads instead of 960.
Which means China would only have to worry about 3976 nukes launched right next to its coastal cities.
This doesn't change much, though, since we got less warheads than that.
And China has less target worth a nuke than we have nukes.';

'>>61603964
>We will have it... in the futur !
Something something fight with the army you have, not the one you wish you had.';

'fuck you OP, look what you've done.';

'>>61603964
>The 8th graders on this board fantasizing the death of millions of their own countrymen is bizarre form nationalism cringe
It's simply deterrence. If they aren't retarded (big if), the chinamutts should know not to start shit they can't win.';

'>>61604911
The possible extinction of mankind is “simply” deterrence?';

'>>61605296
Yes.';

'>>61589848
What happens if it ruptured?';

'>>61605410
>If the bread basket of the world got nuked cities people would celebrate
Maybe for a day or two';

'>>61605410
>THEY'D CELEBRATE
Bitch nigger, you know full well that this fantasy started on the right with people saying that nuking California or New York would immediately improve the country.
I don't even like the left, but come the fuck on. This is pure projection.';

'>>61603984
Some Chinese cities would be worth an entire ICBM though. Wuhan, Beijing, Guangdong, oops one accidentally hit Pyongyang';

'>>61603445
Lol, lmao';

'>>61600753';

'>>61591544
>Major producer of food
California is also the largest consumer state. Losing the almonds and avocados of California would mean nothing.
The worst thing is it'd kill the US's digital industry and influence over its allies because losing Cali means losing Hollywood, Google's HQ and so forth.
It'd be both the best and worst thing.';

'>>61605411
1/3 of china's cities&industry&farmland is downstream of that dam and would all be flooded.
The CCP has already stated that any atack on the dam would be seen as worse then a nuclear strike and they would retaliate with nuclear weapons themselfs.
But what most people actually think is, why is a nation that has been in conflict with almost every nation in the world give itself such a crippling weakness.
The faulty dam madness was supossed to be a Mao thing, but the retards in the CCP just keep creating more dams that fuck up shit more then they fix things.
Every rainy season in china half the nation gets flooded.';

'>>61600753
I know there are far more blacks and browns than I like, that's why I want a nuclear war to kill them all.';

'>>61600753
On one hand, the country is crippled, on the other hand the US's main rival is eliminated so we'd now control every market of relevance, and a lot of previously privately-owned land is now up for grabs due to the rich faggots owning them being reduced to a black mark on the floor, renewing upwards mobility.';

'>>61603481
How much of that is due to China powering buildings nobody lives in that effectively only exist to be speculated on and exchanged like glorified rai stones?';

'>>61589857
>proven to be doctored.
Sorry for the doctored picture! Here get some undoctored';

'>>61590337
>B. America collapses into civil war
wow the oblast posters sars we eating good
And what may I ask will be the reason for that?';

'>>61591482
>If China can't land and support 200k+ infantry in Taiwan, their chances of taking it are zero.

You can prevent this by draining the ocean that separates them as well';

'>>61589593
If they are already being bombed during an illicit invasion, is there any reason why Taiwan shouldn't launch a few conventional missiles at this dam or any of those upstream from it?';

'>>61607697
The CCP is going to build a landbridge to taiwan with dead PLA soldiers.
They are already training the next generation that will replace them.';

'>>61590221
>It will be brutal and there will be millions death but like. Murica lives on.';

'>>61607572
Did you read all the way to the end of that post or did your brain switch off immediately after reading that sentence?';

'>>61591325
What do I read or where do I study to know what you know';

'>>61591325
No you materialist goober it's called hyperstition
The authors of these works are often surprised when these things come to pass
Events do not proceed linearly and technologies are not introduced linearly either
You cannot reliably predict the future using logic';

'>>61589593
>built by bugmen
It's fucked';

'>>61590320
Sounds like suicide and probably not';

'>>61590320
Sounds like a reasonable thing to do if they were already attacked by the mainland insects unprovoked, and almost certainly they could.';

'does destroying the Three Gorges Dam even hurt China?
the electricity output of the dam is barely 1% and crop irrigation is hardly reliant of the dam.';

'>>61609716
if that's the case, then why even have the dam? why not just demolish the dam if it hardly serves a purpose?';

'>>61609716
>we didn't need it anyway';

'>>61609716
>does destroying the Three Gorges Dam even hurt China?
It hurts national pride. Think of it this way, if China destroys the Lincoln Memorial, it won't make the US weaker but it does hurt national pride.';

'>>61603514
>UK and France
The only reason these countries even survive is because the US gives them support LMAO. Tell me more about how great they are.';

'>>61609744
>Three Gorges Dam is analogous to the Lincoln Memorial in targeting value
It's posts like this that make me wish I still kept a reaction images folder.';

'>>61609756
What the hell is US spending money on in UK and France, Fulbright scholars?';

'>>61593189
getting rekt by floods is a Chinese thing since prehistory. one of the legendary emperors, the founder of the legendary first dynasty, got his fame for managing the great flood

>During the reign of Emperor Yao, the Chinese heartland was frequently plagued by floods that prevented further economic and social development.[25] Yu's father, Gun, was tasked with devising a system to control the flooding. He spent more than nine years building a series of dikes and dams along the riverbanks, but all of this was ineffective, despite (or because of) the great number and size of these dikes and the use of a special self-expanding soil. As an adult, Yu continued his father's work and made a careful study of the river systems in an attempt to learn why his father's great efforts had failed.

>He spent more than nine years building a series of dikes and dams along the riverbanks, but all of this was ineffective
>Instead of directly damming the rivers' flow, Yu made a system of irrigation canals which relieved floodwater into fields, as well as spending great effort dredging the riverbeds.';

'>>61609716
even if the dam is economically zilch, there's a shit ton of people living downstream.
millions would die in the flood from the dam bursting.';

'>>61609802
Look at the date range up top, it will mostly be Marshall Plan money';

'>>61609848
>Look at the date range up top, it will mostly be Marshall Plan money
Oh, that makes way more sense.
I guess the UK will be some lend-lease forgiveness or something, maybe balancing the books for destroyed materiel or something to do with the base and ship swaps.';

'>>61591859
you dumb chink';

'>>61609452
this picture is you.
>>61609437
https://www.rand.org/pubs/papers/P3558.html

To help you with this, there is what you know and what you don't know. I will use the above anon as the example of a typical reaction to "what they don't know" in this day and age. People actively reject unknowns and foreign concepts that do not immediately come with a certification of trust from their chosen authority of "truth."

That alone is not a problem. The problem is a refusal to examine something and instead immediately brand it as heresy.

So the Delphi method has been in use since the late 60s and before that was utilized informally and formally under numerous other names and techniques. "Analysis of the Future The Delphi Method" in case the link doesn't work.
---
So anons. In the very near future, we are going to need you. We are going to need anons, globally, who can think, and investigate, but also are smart enough to know when a fight is worth it, and when the problem is self solving even if its over a generations long timeline. Anons who can understand where to leverage, Lever (look up the origins of that word and its concept), for maximum impact.

The greatest conflict going forward is going to be perception control. You, all of you, will be handed nothing, you will be advised, nothing, there is no salvation or aid from authority. Authority barely exists and yet it is absolute. There is only you, going forward, getting your hands dirty and knowing when you have to step back, and hopefully that is enough. Each and every one of you dumb fucks form the foundation of which this entire structure is built upon, never forget that.';

'>>61609879
teehee they were both me';

'>>61607728
Undermined leadership or geopolitical fallout, I guess. They'd lose a ton of support if they murder millions of civilians even in an unsanctioned war, but if they're losing anyway and have the willpower for it that would be about the strongest fuck you they could muster.';

'>>61590149
I like how you immediately go from "you are not immune to MAD" to "Russia and China are immune to MAD and will commit national suicide to stop America"';

'>>61610010
>I like how you immediately go from
It's a constant with these types.

What they believe is inherently counter-factual so they're obsessed with finding some deus ex machina that will let them win.
It's why they keep believing that Biden will pussy out on Ukraine arms.
Or that Trump will win and end Ukraine assistance.
Or any of a hundred other scenarios where USA "decides not to" win against Russia/China.

They can't hope to win on the merits of their side but they have made their strength into a religious like belief so they perform ever more contorted reasoning to show why not only it's possible for them to win but by some deserved miracle, it'd certain that they will.

It's really very similar to the old "USA will back down when they see the coffins" line.';

'>>61609716
The economic impact doesn’t come from the loss of hydro turbines, it comes from the biblical level flooding and deaths that occur because of it.';

'>>61609716
Bursting it would have a WMD-tier effect on population living downstream, and the following famines would be something that China hasn’t experienced in a long, long time. It’s certainly the biggest single weak point in the Chinsect hive.';

'>>61610124
Yeah, if we imagine that the dam bursted now, it would be the biggest single catastrophical event in human history, and the competition is not even close.';

'>>61610124
well shit, maybe China should just decommission the dam, it'd make more sense that way.';

'>>61610241
Constructing the dam caused the displacement of over 1 million people upstream of the river and was one of the worst PR disasters for the modern PRC as it caused images of people protesting the destruction of their ancestral homes to be broadcasted around the world.

Over three million people live in the new land downstream of Three Gorges and would create an even larger domestic crisis if asked to let their new homes return to the river.';

'>>61609716
There are 7 high pop 1m+ cities down stream.';

'>>61609716
No, I wouldn't worry about it.';

'>>61610171
>human
?';

'>>61610171
>the biggest single catastrophical event in human history,
Bigger than the Will Smith slap?';

'>>61607808
NGL shit looks fun as hell
Would love it as a kid';

'>>61592117
nothing says stealth better than a 6" lifting hook on the top of the fuse.';

'>>61609914
its an interesting technique in rhetoric. The "tar trap". Sorta falls in under demoralization. It will be interesting when AI on AI rhetoric is deployed, at that point the human is the just the observer creating an opinion based on what they see and what they can know.

So you have real time communication warfare with information injection and deflection all for the purpose of degrading one another's comms with the end consumer being the human.';

'>>61610768
Do opinions stop missiles?';

'>>61589767
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LED ledlighting laser
Paint in shí colour
Alloyminum wheels - 4 of them with metal spare tire
Dog skin seating brown nuts or black or light coffee
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Power seat - all of them
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High impact side air bladder - 2 of them for both size
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Made with REAL METAL for you

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'>>61614888
Yes.';

'>>61615318
The Yangwang U8 SUV is actually kinda cool tho... https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/yangwang-u8-1184bhp-plug-hybrid-suv-can-float-water';

'>>61615349
>The Yangwang U8 SUV is actually kinda cool tho
China has a lot of high-end electric cars, I like the electric taxis in Shenzhen.';

'is there really even a point to breaking it in a war?
wont it just kill a bunch of civvies, or is there like vital infrastructure downstream?';

'>>61615397
Both. Breaking it would hit major cities and ravage farmlands guaranteeing famine.';

'>>61615318
U8 is actually a pretty cool vehicle IRL
it's got a factory option for DJI Mavic hanger on the roof';

'I'd believe it. Only because the Chinese government is so autistic about that specific dam, and constantly points to it as one of their greatest achievements. You can kinda tell it cost a fuckton of money and they're coping a bit by making it this big toursity thing
It's funny, because nobody cares, they're just there to see the great wall';

'>>61616768
Are you retarded?

Concrete has specific properties you can google right now';

'>>61616768
>making it this big toursity thing
>nobody cares, they're just there to see the great wall
Chinese tourism is nearly all focused on the domestic market. Domestic tourism is massive in China, international tourism is miniscule by comparison and arguably, more trouble than its worth for the CCP.

I've no doubt there are tourist facilities at the TGD but it's probably targeted just at locals and more about justifying/excusing/spinning public opinion about the dam.
The CCP does not cope about spending money, Chinese culture practically demands huge flagship projects of national importance. Chinese Communist culture certainly demands it.

They've come a long way, the first big project of the party after consolidating power was a 71km irrigation canal that took them five years and was basically just the kind of aqueduct Romans built hundreds of in no time at all.';

'>retarded chink gets into power and fucks up
>60 million chinks die
Average Chinese history lesson';

'>>61617324
That's only for civil wars';

'>>61590320
Why would Taiwan blow up their own dam?';

'>>61592107
>>61589800
>>61589658
America has more nuclear warheads than silos and launchers you retards. They can't launch all 3700 at once and they wouldn't launch all of them at China regardless because that's not the purpose of having that many nukes.

The purpose of storing thousands of nukes is crab in the bucket mentality, the US and Russia will nuke every other neutral country in case of MAD to assure no one succeds them to inherit the earth if they get wiped out in a war with another nuclear power.

US would nuke the entire South America, Canada etc.


China has enough nukes to wipe out the US and other similar sized countries.

>>61593189
They didn't flood cities retard.

The 1938 yellow river flood worked and it blocked Japan from Zhengzhou for 6 years and permanently prevented Japan from attacking Shaanxi province by turning eastern Henan into impassable mud where tanks and artillery couldn't go.

The floods is the yellow river affected the north China plain because it's flat and that's where crops are grown.

The yellow river flood was caused by breaching dikes which held back already natural floods

The three gorges dam is entirely different, its built on the Yangtze river (Chang Jiang) which doesn't naturally flood and downstream was never a natural floodplain before.';

'>>61589763
>>61591500
Again, see>>61618300

Japan and South Korea will be wiped out in a nuclear war with China while China will still exist.

China had the number of warheads, missiles, silos and launchers to blanked all of South Korea and Japan.

Japan and South Korea don't have the required number of fissile material, silos or launchers to wipe out China.

China can wipe out all of South Korea and Japan's missile silos AND cities in a first strike while Japan and South Korea can only strike 5% of China's land and population.';

'>>61591338
The Philippines is facing active insurgency by Moro Muslims in Mindanao for decades.

The Moros fought the Japanese before that and they fought America before that. Moros have shed the blood of Spanish, Americans, Japanese and Filipinos and are still killing Filipinos today.';

'>>61591405
>>61591360
Again retards who have no idea what they are talking about.

98% of Taiwan's population lives in the flat western plains, in cities towns with absolutely no natural defences or bunkers.

2% of Taiwan's population (Mountain Aboriginals) live in the eastern mountains.

Taiwan's only defence is the Taiwan strait and navy, not its mountains.

Japan, South Korea and Taiwan all ban private gun ownership. Only mountain Aboriginals in Taiwan are allowed to use hand made muskets for hunting. 98% of Taiwan's population are disarmed and live in the plains.

The pro-Taiwan independence party are fiercely against private gun ownership.

This isn't Ukraine which has ultranationalist paramilitaries like Azov. In Taiwan, the pro Taiwan independence people arr the nerds who play league of legends and try to make themselves sick to avoid conscription.';

'>>61603471
>They're Chinese, 4'10" with guns that keyhole at ten feet.

Your delusions and fantasy are due to most overseas Chinese coming from Guangdong, one of the shortest provinces in China.

Chinese from Shandong reach heights of over six feet, Chinese laborers from the China Labour corps in Wprld War I France towered over western Europeans.';

'>>61603471
>>61618371
Chinese Laboour Corps in France compared to white people, the majority of them from Shandong.';

'>>61601195
>>61601269
>>61603181
>>61603226
>>61603421

Again see >>61618300
>China has enough nukes to wipe out the US and other similar sized countries.

>>61617289
>>61616768
>>61609716
>>61609720
>>61603481
>>61607508
The Three Gorges Dam was the idea of the KMT and Sun Yatsen before the CCP started it.

The KMT would have force relocated people and built the dam if it won the war as well.

>>61609828
The yellow river flooded regularly, the Yangtze never flooded';

'>>61607201
>farmland

False, most of China's farmland is in the north around the yellow river in the north China plains.';

'>>61589593
>As a result, damage to an individual section should not affect other parts of the dam
what is the point? if you destroy a section the water will flood from there. who gives a shit if other parts are still up';

'>>61589756
Yangtze River flood season is coming up, and thus the 3 gorges dam becomes vulnerable to breaking. The 2020 season was brutal, and people were seething from the coof and wanted payback, and got cockblocked when the dam remained standing. Thus around this time seafo trannies spam threads seeking the clout of being prophets should the dam actually break.

Dam-chans made in the /3gd/ threads were pretty cute tho.

More importantly, when is the Mosul dam going to break, being built on Gypsum and only standing because they keep dumping cement into the innumerable holes?';

'>>61589593
>Zhang Boting, deputy secretary-general of China Society for Hydropower Engineering, suggested that concrete gravity dams such as the Three Gorges Dam are resistant to nuclear strikes.
I don't think they really believe this. The Chinks have been explicit that any attack on the 3GD will be treated as a nuclear attack.';

'>>61618410
>The KMT would have force relocated people and built the dam if it won the war as well.
I often wonder how China's population would have been if KMT won, whether CKS would have killed more or less people or more accurately, whether he'd have done it deliberately in white-terror purges or accidentally in famines as Mao did.

Mao was actually pretty civilised by Chinese standards, relatively few of his enemies were murdered or executed, outside of battle in the civil war anyway, most were imprisoned and "re-educated" which compared to Chinese feudalism is positively humane.
I always find it interesting that Mao killed out of incompetence instead of malice, presumably he'd have preferred to avoid the famines etc if he was able. CKS killed deliberately and was extremely brutal, killing families of enemies sometimes.

It leads into the whole question of whether KMT would have democratised if they ruled mainland China and didn't have western pressure or rely on US aid that could be leveraged to force reforms.';

'>>61591331
>We will never know until something actually happens to it whether it be nature flipping the bird at China, sabotage, or an actual strike at it.
My money is on chink engineering being shite';

'>>61621104
It was designed by a Dutch engineering firm.';

'>>61589593

Doesn't really matter if it is. It's not resistant to the dozens of upstream dams getting blown and releasing all their reservoirs in a single flood which is far more powerful than the dam is rated to withstand.';

'>>61589720
This. Even if the damn doesn't collapse the spillover would probably cause pretty nasty flooding.
Issue is, water flows downhill, meaning the easiest dams to breach are going to be the furthest back in the Chinese air defense network if you're operating from the Pacific.';

'>>61589857
It's not doctored, it's deformation from compiling multiple satellite images. Hence why very small sections experience large amounts of deformation instead of the bending of the overall dam.
Most of the 16 year olds on this board are too retarded to understand this.
Of course';

'The whole idea about a military strike on Three Gorges Dam is laughable, because let’s be serious, who would ever accept to take responsibility for such a war crime, a crime against humanity? The person in question would be remembered as the worst killer in human history. Who would be willing to press the button?';

'>>61622277
Me';

'>>61589629
>A nuclear bomb, not even a large one, just a 15kt nuclear bomb hits the reservoir section and lands in the water, it'll send shockwaves that hit like a tsunami and break several sections of the wall simultaneously
/thread';

'>>61589658
>China has 400 bomb, Amelika has 3700, enough to turn all of China into death and melted plastic
Half of china is desert ( and growing) much is polluted. It cann't feed itself and ir relies on fuel imports. It has the loosers position on the world map and never made the imperial age because of that and its recent prosperity was entirely granted to it by the USA (now ungranted) in a well meaning experiment to drag it out of tyrannical communism to democratic civilization (which failed). hina is currently dealing with teh implosion of histories greatest bubble and greatest property bubble representing 1.3rd or more of its GDP and due to demographic again will never be relevant again.It never really was militarily and right up to the Russian invasion of Ukraine was considered considerably less militarily capable than Russia. That's still true. considerably less militarily capable than Russia. capable of bothering the Philippines and bullshit for internal propaganda like aircraft carriers and planes that are simply useless against the USA both in quantity and quality. The truth is the actual Chinese economy is now in reality smaller than the EUs again and will continue to shrink. The very best thing hina could do right now is disavow Putin, recognize Taiwanese independence, set a roadmap for Hong Kong independence and beg the west for forgiveness for the immense fuck up it made of covid.';

'>>61622277
I'd press it twice, just in case the first press didn't register.';

'>>61622369
>again.It never really was militarily and right up to the Russian invasion of Ukraine was considered considerably less militarily capable than Russia. That's still true. considerably less militarily capable than Russia

Russia suffered one of the biggest military disasters in the first Chechen war. You're delusional if you think Russian military was more capable after 1991.';

'>>61589767
>tfw china's state of the art stealth fighter has worse panel gaps than my grandma's 1992 geo tracker';

'>>61593200
Less stop exporting, more change your entire agriculture. Most of agriculture in the US has little human nutritional value as it's producing either sugar or animal feed for meat. Neither is very space efficient.

But by cutting meat production and sugar production in half (and butchering the excess lifestock) a LOT of land would be freed up/made unnecessary.

As of now when you look at agriculture by nutritional value for human, California ranks among the top as it produces a lot of fruit and vegetables rather than just corn.';

'Why stop at one dam?';

'>>61622277
Harry Truman';

'>>61622594
>exactly what the US did to South Korea, Japan and Taiwan in the 1950s and 1960s, they gutted their fertility rates through mass sterilisation
[citation needed]

That's quite a claim anon, you have solid sources for all this of course?';

'>>61622831
America in a time of food scarcity would simply stop feeding the cancer-zones. >>61607168';