'>>2716003
I'm from /biz/
rugged means something different but I think cheap phones are definitely "rugged" from a /biz/raeli standpoint.';

'Absolute retardation. Get the most reliable phone like Samsung and just get the best case you can. Using some shitty gimmick phone just because the phone itself is beefier is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I've used Otter boxes for years and have never damaged a phone once with them. I drop and smash and get water on my phones all the time.';

'>>2716009
A cover is much more of a scam than a smartphone that has a battery that lasts longer (days) and certified protection. A cover also doesn't protect you from dust, mud and water (submersed) kek';

'>>2716008
OP here

it actually means "robust"';

'>>2716003
>IP68 Waterproof
>Operating range from -20 °C to 60 °C
>withstands 2m drops onto concrete
Ignore the fact that it has no warranty and reviews are terrible because its buggy and slow; This is the GoaT. And i say that as someone who has never even owned a smartphone and thus doesnt think they are actually essential.';

'>>2716018
>A cover also doesn't protect you from dust, mud and water (submersed) kek

That's what it's fucking designed to do.

With electronics you ALWAYS get whatever is the most reliable and well supported. Only a boomer or a complete idiot would get some "outdoorsman phone" they saw in an Instagram ad.';

'>>2716018
Have you seriously never heard of power banks?';

'>>2716023
>meme phone
honestly, after having a "mission critical LTE device", there's a reason I didn't get another after I broke it.
I do miss having serviceable batteries, a dedicated PTT button, and the dock/charger was nice... but the op sys was old when I got it and only got one or two upgrades in its life, there were some issues with getting text messages, didn't support a lot of common features (voicemail, wifi calling) without a lot of extra crap and carrier gymnastics.
The device itself wasn't as rugged as I expected it to be either.

I'm on a Pixel 7 now. The battery's decent, the camera is lightyears ahead of the LEX, and it's on the latest android. With a decent case, it feels every bit as rugged as the LEX did.';

'>>2716003
They're objectively worse at being a smartphone. They have less features and worse build quality than a high-end smartphone, and they're more expensive than a budget conventional smartphone.

Most smartphones have some degree of water resistance, enough for you to swim across a stream or whatever. If you need more than that just get an appropriate case. You'll need a case anyway because I don't see a lanyard loop on that phone.
I've taken my S22 kayaking down Class V rapids.

As for battery life, just buy a powerbank.';

'>>2716053
>I've taken my S22 kayaking down Class V rapids.
Pic related';

'>>2716053
You could also just use a ziplock bag if water is going to be a problem';

'>>2716044
>takes up unnecessary space
"Rugged smartphones" also come with other features that a regular cell phone doesn't have, such as better satellite connection, thermal vision, microscopic cameras, all for a reasonable price. This is because they usually have Android 12 and less bloatware';

'>>2716043
>That's what it's fucking designed to do.

A cover is only designer to help the impact in a regular phone.
Stop being a nigger NPC. Smartphones are tracking devices and you are buying it from goy corps';

'nokia';

'>>2716003
Times aren't complicated--you're just fucking retarded.';

'>>2716064
termal vision kills your battery in like 5 minutes--that's why thermal camras usually come with their own battery. If you're thinking you're goin to walk around all night using thermals.. that's not happening.

WTF does a thermal cam have to do with an emergency in the woods anyways?';

'>>2716018
flagship phones are dust, mud and waterproof on their own though';

'>>2716018
Why would you expose your phone to any of those? Do you also want to baton with it?
Put in the minimal effort to care for your electronics instead of buying overpriced meme devices.';

'>>2716049
Drowned my Xperia 10 III last autumn, bought Pixel 7. Well, battery life sucks ass. Maybe it's not the worst, but definitely way worse than budget Sony (smaller battery + more power hungry SoC + larger screen). But yeah, camera is simply amazing for a phone. Even better - you aren't afraid of rooting - there are few ROMs which mask your device ID as OG Pixel, so you get unlimited Google photos storage. Great phone all together, but I miss my budget Sony battery life.';

'I used a Samsung S7 with a waterproof case for years, it was great. Only thing that sucked was the case covered the camera so you had to take it off for high quality photos. Ended up breaking it that way, was crawling along the rocks and it fell out of my pocket. I think having a case that leaves a space open for the camera is probably the best compromise.';

'>>2716068
A good quality case protects your phone from shock, water, dust, basically anything it could be exposed to. Literally do 5 seconds of research.';

'>>2716064
Power banks take up no space or weight and your phone is a piece of shit';

'I think too many /out/ists like to imagine themselves as some Schwarzennegger Rambo Crusoe that will be operating behind enemy lines in a nuclear wasteland that's also a rainforest.
Meanwhile in the real world a regular phone will do just fine if you just keep it in your pocket and don't sit on it.';

'Maybe I’ve just never had a good Android phone, but I’ve tried two and both were absolute dogshit compared to an iPhone, even an older one.';

'>>2716348
I will never buy a product with a proprietary charging cable. Not because it's that much of an inconvenience, but because it's so profoundly stupid that it's insulting.';

'This is one of those "i'm going to pretend I go /out/ but actually stay at home all day dreaming about the gear I could get to go /out/" threads';

'>>2716627
survivalism is by itself most of the time just STORING gear retard.';

'>>2716135
are you a retard you can literally spot animals in the wild with a thermal camera, this ain't helping ya';

'>>2716627
What I've learned from this board is that everything is larping. Going outside and doing anything is larping. Not going outside and simply talking about what you would do if you did go outside is also larping. Everything is larping.';

'>>2716143
iPhone and Samsungs are the meme devices if there is any in the smartphone market';

'>>2716674
this ain't a movie, your not supposed to go outside wasting your gear every single month lmao

/pol/ is way more obvious larp';

'>>2716677
If you don't train and develop high proficiency with your gear, you won't have the skills to rely on ultralight gear suitable for foot travel. You won't be able to use a hatchet instead of full size axe or chainsaw. You won't be able to use a .22 or a handgun instead of a center-fire rifle. You won't be able to use a bivvy tent and just build a structure around it instead of carrying a 4 person tent that you can cook and bathe and work in. Your system therefore will have no mobility factor without access to vehicular storage space. This means it might be impossible for you to bugout at all. In order to bugout you need extensive training and field experience with pack-sized gear.';

'>>2716689
>In order to bugout you need extensive training and field experience with pack-sized gear.
Have you ever needed to "bug-out"?
I have. It involved driving 4 hours down the interstate and finding a nice hotel with a fitness center so I could ride out the hurricane without missing a workout. Fuck off with your ultralight, foot travel fantasy.';

'>>2716742
It's almost like they're larping, ya know?
Whereas normal people in emergency situations just like, take a car full of stuff. And have since the early-mid twentieth century.';

'>>2716742
This sounds larpy. Driving to the gym down the road isn't bugging out.

>>2716743
In an emergency, you don't get enough of a heads up to pack everything you want. That's why you already have a bug out bag full of the essentials.';

'>>2716348
Iphones are dogshit
t. Forced to use one for work';

'>>2716003
They're already waterproof and have been since like 2018. They have flash memory and not spinning hard disks. They have gorrilla glass 1000 screens. The fuck else do you want';

'>>2716348
I haven't had an iphone since iphone 4 but their software was absolute ass. I had a zune and not an ipod and was absolutely flabbergasted by how shitty itunes was as a program. Then my iphone 4 broke twice from looking at it so I decided to never get one again. I had an s5, note 5, note 8, and a fold 3. In the flip phone days I had an alias 1 and alias 2. In 2 more years I'll probably keep sticking with the folding tablet ones. I like how heavy it is and how narrow it is to fit in my pocket. Iphones ui is trash. The back button being at the top left is fucking retarded and so is swiping. Then there is the limited app store which prevents me from torrenting or emulating shit without sideloading. Then there is the downgrading that apple does to their text images and video files for absolutely no reason.';

'>>2716742
You will be a casualty';

'>>2716748
I'm in the same boat as you.';

'>>2716743
nigger that's why you prepare it before hand';

'>>2716743
At least half the people you know won't be able to afford to maintain an automobile by 2030';

'>>2716008
>I'm from /biz/
Go back.';

'>>2716916
Because states/governments are inherently evil and they seek to enslave and actively destroy the lives of their "citizens"';

'>>2716996
The funny thing is that automobiles are typically one of the primary things keeping people enslaved due to their cost and necessity outside major cities. The economy is so bad that they're not even needed to achieve that goal anymore and the elites would rather just cut down on traffic lol.';

'>>2716996
Underage detected';

'>>2717028
Larp';

'>>2717005
Imagine living in a city. Absolutely disgusting.';

'all of these fucking cucks itt
>dude like just get a samsung xD
>put le case on
absolutely fucking retardation normal faggots
op get a rugged phone , oukitel , Doogee Blackview Ulefone or whatever shit they sell , the operative system won't ever update but it is the same as buying an old samsung phone that's get no updates.
You will only have to charge the phone 2 times a week or even less even if tou visit this hell hole full of cucks daily , for the rest there is nothing really weird about these phones they operate with android so every app is the same.
I have this oukitel for like 5 months now and as long these exist , I'm never going back to the cuck samsung with le case like all these cucks itt';

'>>2717149
> Get some shitty off brand phone because you don't know that powerbanks and waterproof cases exist';

'>>2717034
>uses a meme that doesn't even apply because he thinks it's universal
Definitely underage';

'>>2717186
why would would I buy your trash bags and stupid cases when my phone does this already??
you normalfags cant do anything right, now go back to your pink iphone faggot';

'>>2717186

>can't troll properly

The battery that the power bank can handle to charge a phone does not beat a better integrated battery. You only have one more day of battery life (with luck) and then it dies.

>A phone case doesn't make your phone waterproof

>They aren't military certified

>A scam for NPCs

What is even a off brand phone? Your supposed to help the market to not saturate dirty jews and corporations.';

'>>2717149


>doesn't understand what is bloatware';

'>>2717149

lmao my ching chong Samsung speakers are dead because ONE drop of water. He still works but now the sensitivity is less because it got dropped by accident one time and broke the literal mirror that needs like 100+ euros to repair.

Same thing for the muttphone Samsung niggerest phone on the universe with their bloat.
iStore
iTunes
iOS
iThisNuts

They wanna control you to have centralized information.

ChingChung on the other hand got their installed their bloat + google while off brands got only google and Android 12';

'>>2717200
Because the hardware is vastly more important than anything you think you care about and durability and battery life are incredibly easy to supplement.';

'>>2717225
If I haven't broken a phone by now or had a dead battery with everything that I do while carrying a phone then it's non-issue and you're just preparing for larp fantasy world.';

'>>2717149
Rugged phones suck because you're paying flagship prices for chinkshit software quality. The OS sucks unless you install a custom ROM, the cameras suck, everything is slow as shit, the software is glitchy and erratic. You even get bloatware installed just like Samsung phones now. I was looking at Kyocera and almost all of their reviews are negative because their phones simply don't work as well and everyone else. Same with other "rugged" brands.';

'>>2717258

>"I haven't" key word

Nigga stop using the anecdotal evidences to the table. Literally the least important thing is the OS, that's why for example Windows 10 *doesn't* need an update that's all about money, niggas be forgeting things like linux exist that's why they are normie fags';

'>>2717274

You get less bloatware and it's easier to degoole.

For example you can de google more easly a pixel then a Samsung.';

'>>2717200

This is what happens when 4chan is known to the normal faggots. They larp as if they know how to even use a forum. Go back to niggeredit';

'>>2716298
>A good quality case
aka an abomination that costs 1/5th your phone does and makes it unwieldy. Just get a device that's already durable.';

'>>2716299
>Power banks take up no space or weight
>lithium batteries meant to charge your mobile devices aren't large nor heavy

The battery is the heaviest part of any device and a half-decent bank is going to be able to charge them multiple times over. Are you restarted?';

'>>2717502
>>2717503
A good case costs like $40 or something and a cheap Walmart power bank is the size of an Altoids tin and weighs 6 ounces or less and can charge my phone almost twice completely from empty. My EDC power bank is the Goal Zero Flip 12, $20, 2.5 ounces, charges my phone 3/4, and I've only had to use the thing twice.';

'>>2716498
The new ones all use USB-C.';

'They're based';

'>>2717028
if so, based. the youngest generation is going to be the ones that totally radicalize the next one. I hope to live to see all your beloved billionaire heads roll down the whitehouse steps';

'>>2716003
Nokia pocket brick. Unless you're wanting to be a social media faggot in the woods, all you need is a reliable brick for emergencies.';

'>>2716919
No thanks.';

'Kinda related, does anyone make a shade that attaches to a backpack and also has a solar panel on it?';

'I use the Doogee S98 PRO. It's a rugged waterproof phone with both a night vision camera and a thermal imaging camera built in. Both are useful when out wild camping.
At a distance and in total darkness the thermal camera can instantly determine if some weird sounds are an approaching human, large animal, local farm dog come for some company or just rodents doing their thing.
The night vision camera is also good at finding your way when it's too dark to see with your own eyes.
The battery also lasts 4-5 days with out doing any annoying low power stuff.';

'>>2716003
Put a case on your phone and keep it in your bag, possibly in a hardcase or with some padding or something. The average goyphone is already fairly dust and waterproof, you don't need to have your phone out and a battery bank will solve your battery life issue, provided that it isn't already solved by just turning off mobile data and other crap.
A rugged smartphone is just going to have its own issues because it's a niche product that is supposed to have high standards, except that people don't want to pay the full price that would entail, so it will necessarily compromise heavily.
>But I need GPS
Get an actual GPS or even just a map and compass.
>But I want to take pictures
Get an actual camera.
>But I want to listen to music
Get an actual PMP.
>But I need a flashlight
Get an actual flashlight or headlamp.
>But I need to be able to take calls constantly
Get a decently durable dumbphone that works with the cell tower tech in your area.
The only thing you should be using a smartphone for while /out/ is managing your schedule and bookings for lodging and transport.';

'>>2721742
Still seething about GPSs eh?';

'>>2716018
>cErTiFiEd PrOtEcTiOn
kek';

'>>2716003
Gay';

'I don't larp pretending I magically woke up hundreds of miles from civilization with the bare essentials in my head so a normal smartphone with a case is fine for me.';

'>>2716003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CG7hNEsMUM
I used to own a "Kingkong" phone.
Promo was a dude smashing walnuts and throwing it down the stairs, absolutely sold me.

Worked well enough as a phone, went through quite a bit of abuse with nary a scratch.
It died eventually, and the new "Kingkong" phones were just generic slates using the name with none of the protection the og was sold on.';

'>>2716009
fpbp';

'>>2723707
>everything I don't like is a larp
You could have said you simply don't think they're necessary, but you just had to be a memeposting fag about it, huh?';