'no, I use alltrails pro';

'>>2717861
Who am I gonna text?';

'>>2717861
No, I use the normal version because I'm not poor. The full sized InReach.';

'>>2717901
GHOST
BUSTERS!';

'imagine these days there is now a generation of people who were not taught how to use compass and map even in middle school';

'>>2717906
You don't have room to criticize.';

'>>2717909
well im over 40 and atleast i had a father
orienteering was just a basic thing we did back then at school, running during summer and by skiis at winter';

'not american, so, ...no';

'>>2717906
I could do that,if I had some reasonable way of keeping track of distance.I mostly hike forests,with few features to use as guides.';

'>>2717906
>>2717914
Originally I had complimented your land nav knowledge but jannie was a cuck and deleted my post, so you're an avatar posting fag and I hope you misplace your compass for a period of between two and four weeks';

'>>2717906
>>2717914
>tranime avatarfag
>over 40
Sad!';

'>>2718283
Someone explain to me why the janny would delete a land nav post. Is land nav not /out/, or what?';

'>>2717906
the number of times ive been drunk at a bar, lecturing random people about topology and compas navigation';

'>>2717906
its an SOS beacon though, not a navigation tool.

>>2717914
Well I can use a compass and map, do not watch tranime, and also had a father.';

'>>2717875
>Just use a cell phone bro
some people actually leave the city, anon';

'Thoughts on communicating through a meshtastic node instead?';

'>>2719303
Good luck finding one.';

'>>2717861
I have a question, why would you use one in today’s age?
>cellphones abundant and has service in 70% of the USA
> can carry a 20000mAh power bank that’s the size of a pop tart and can charge your phone for a week+
>trail apps are abundant and reliable, AllTrails works the entirety of the long trail (tested and confirmed)';

'>>2719310
>no cell service
>slip and fall
>break your leg
>it's nearly freezing and it starts to rain
Everybody who has found themselves in that situation thought they were the exception and that it could never happen to them.';

'>>2717861
What is it?';

'No. However, when the next gen is released I will. It's a really good idea.';

'>>2719310
>cell service in 70% of us
just say youre on the east coast. most of my hikes dont have cell service. so any emergency without one im on my own';

'>>2717901
Me';

'>>2718318
Zero';

'>>2719310
>Area has no service
And now you're fucked.
>Phone battery is dead and you would need to fuck around with charging it
Fucked
>Phone can't give your precise location, so you die of exposure or bleed out while the rescue teams fail at finding you and need to call off the search after your phone dies or you pass out or whatever and it becomes too dark to find you
Also fucked.
>One of the many fragile components on your modern cell phone has broken
Absolutely fucked.
>Not in any state to actually make a phone call or do anything other than press a button
Definitely fucked.';

'>>2717901
sar when you come across a tourist with w broken ankle or when you wake up in the morning and your friend is coughing up blood. both have happened to me';

'I live in a country so dense, that you cant go any where without being able to see a house.';

'>>2717906
Why would you need to be taught how to use a compass?';

'>>2717861
If I'm leaving cell service it means I don't want to be connected to the grid at all. I'm comfortable managing risk knowing there's no possibility of rescue and relying on my skills in an emergency or otherwise. I get that some of you need the security blanket though, and it's for the best that you have one.';

'>>2720817
Kek @ you';

'>>2717861
I use this
Has a built-in GPS';

'>>2717861
IPhone 14 onwards have full satellite communication.';

'>>2717861
No. I'm looking forward to the sweet release from the suffering of life';

'>>2721345
Sweet lovely death
I am waiting for your breath
Oh, sweet death
One last caress';

'>>2717906
>these days
>now
I'm 35 and I never learned any of those things in school.';

'>>2717861
In my country the mobile coverage is 98% so I don't really need that, but would buy one if I go to a place where is no coverage.';

'>>2721870
>I'm 35 and I never learned any of those things in school.
Me neither, but I did learn them in Boy Scouts :^)';

'How much do you think Garmin is spending annually to advertise their shitty, outdated devices on this site?

You know you can just use your phone and bring a battery backup, right?
The phone can call a satellite in an emergency, it can load your position on pre-downloaded maps without any cellular service too. And, best of all, you can download offline maps even in the car on the way to a hike if you change your mind, or something is closed.';

'>>2721870
I did, and also how to calculate a square root. Now I don't do either because we have portable electronics to do menial tasks for us.';

'>>2722138
>The phone can call a satellite in an emergency
Wait, seriously? You're telling me all cell phones are secretly satphones?';

'>>2722150
no, just newer models, I'm not sure if Android models have this feature too but I assume the recent ones do
Iphone 14 and newer can communicate with satphones, but only in an emergency, you can't just send text to your family or something';

'>>2717861
i only have my cheap gps and pmr 446';

'>>2717906
I was taught how to use a compass and map as a kid. I can still do that, and judge my pace to know how far im going over time. Still use one. Easy to just check a phone. The real reason I have it is because I've had two different people Im with have medical emergencies over the years and I do a lot of high elevation exposed scrambles or off trail. 99% of the time its so my parents who are too old to hike can follow along and we have something to talk about.';

'>ITT people in this thread don't have SHF/EHF SATCOM communication

I carry my inReach even on the safe streets of Japan. You never know when some pozzed, indoctrinated individual chimps out and you are cornered or forgien national glowies attempt to abduct you.
I even have the remote function on my garmin watch so I can auto alert if it my EKG flatlines for more than 5min and also erase all personal data on my watch/inreach.

I think of it like a health bar/pager in a video game.';

'>>2717906
>someone had to teach him how a compass works
some of us are not retarded';

'>>2717861
no i tell people where i'm going and when i'm expected to return and give updates at waypoints because i have people that care where i am and how i'm doing
there is a mirror on my compass and i have aloud whistle and signal colored clothing on my person';

'>>2723403
Based competent outdoorsman.';

'Someone is always aware of my route. If I don't check-in in time the search party will still have a good idea of where I am.
Almost nothing can kill me so quickly that one of these things would make a difference.';

'>>2723403
>>2723482
>not being completely and utterly alone

ngmi';

'Hmm';

'>>2723492
emotional neglect is a spook';

'>>2723212
Yeah but isn't all this shit subscription based?';

'>>2723671
Don't be poor.';

'>>2723671
pay the fee you dumb goy, you aren't a dirty peasant, are you? Then consoom more!';

'>>2723680
Don't be poor, it's gross. You got your engineering degree didn't you...?';

'>>2723687
still won't buy it, sorry! If I had a gf/wife and she wanted me to use one I'd accept it if she paid for it though';

'>>2723679
>be apocolypse
>why won't my payment go through???';

'>>2723671
The SOS and sat comm stuff is. The watch integrations will work as long as Garmin maintains the apps. The functions on the watch itself will work without Garmin until you can't recharge the battery.';

'>>2723482
>Almost nothing can kill me so quickly that one of these things would make a difference.

found the hiker';

'>>2717861
Nice try garmin, buy an ad

Also take a chance like that fag from 127 hours and maybe your cuck life will be worth something after that';

'>>2717861
dafuq is this?';

'I'd get one if I could pay as you go for messages without a fucking monthly subscription. Going to be obsolete soon with starlink connecting to phones anyway.';

'Personal locator beacons don't require a subscription and are more reliable.';