'He theorized some reasons why you may be afraid.';

'i dont want to get attached only to later get hurt so i just avoid it all together';

'>cuck check mark
opinion? invalid like your sister';

'>>77201283
Option 2 is completely rational. Why should men ask? If a woman hasn't even shown interest up until now, why should I be the one to initiate everything?';

'>>77201318
Agreed. Women absolutely show interest. In people they like. If a woman likes you she will let you know';

'>>77201318
You could. And you'll be waiting forever for that woman to come and sweep you by the legs. But until then you'll just be posting on FourChan about how you'll never get a gf because whatever reason you've contrived.';

'>>77201280
>>77201283
Chad doesn't have to ask foid';

'>>77201332
they only do this in ambiguous ways that maintain their plausible deniability, and that's premeditated and deliberate';

'if you never get matches on dating apps like me, it's safe to assume you are very ugly. There is no point in bothering women irl. I already know the answer.';

'>>77201280
Most men in this board fear rejection, they don't want to grow up and accept that rejection is part of life.
I have a friend who always ask at least one girl everyday, he fucks 3 times every week.';

'>>77201283
>I will depict people I'm trying to convince as retards who should just man the frick up
Gay and useless but hey at least he got to feel something for 3 seconds.';

'>>77201345
lol no. Some outright ask. I knew a few who did because their desire for the people they were after outstripped their patience to diligently lay out signals.
Sure most wait around, but some absolutely do ask men out. Never happened to me personally';

'>>77201280
there has never been approaching at any point in history. there has only been casual, light conversation to put out feelers to gauge interest from both parties';

'>>77201410
Negligible numbers howeverbeit, let's not pretend otherwise.';

'>>77201363
her saying yes is more scary than her saying no';

'>>77201280
my job, the only place where I interact with women in any meaningful capacity, has turned me into a misogynist. I can no longer enjoy office rom-com manga anymore.';

'>>77201280
A lot of women have nothing going on behind their pretty facade. I look at them, listen to them, and 9/10 times lose interest.';

'>>77201411
What does mean approaching to you?';

'>>77201478
overt interest with no plausible deniability';

'>>77201503
Then I've definitely approached a girl before';

'Zoomer dudes flirt by clearing their crushes throne wishlist, she then decides to deem him worthy of a DM or not.';

'>>77201543
>Cuckposter shows up
shoo shoo away with you';

'>>77201280
Tried it at my peak and just got rejected repeatedly. Waiting for wAIfu bots at this point.';

'>>77201280
>>77201283
Why does chad have zero fear when he asks out women? It's because he knows he has value, and because of that he can get with a lot of women. Robots subconsciously know they aren't valuable, and getting rejected by a woman solidifies this in their psyche. They then, on an instinctual level, know that there's no point in asking women out because they have nothing that women want.';

'>>77201549
>cuck
I'm not a cuck, this is just reality. Zoomers don't go anywhere, and women already have a billion DMs in their inboxes. The only way to get a young woman's attention in 2024 in clearing her throne wishlist and hoping your profile is worthy of a DM back. Sad state of affairs.';

'>>77201578
>I am not
Uhuh, go away cuckposter';

'>>77201592
Okay, how would YOU approach a woman my age (20) in 2024? There is no bowling alley or roller rink or shake and burger restaurant or whatever that people just hang out at anymore. Everyone my age is on discord now, and there are already a million indian men spamming any girl you might have a crush on with messages.';

'>>77201622
>There is no bowling alley or roller rink or shake and burger restaurant
Why is this a hinderance?';

'>>77201658
Do you read the rest of my post? It's a hinderance because there is nowhere outside that young people all just go to hang out at like in the past, everybody is inside.';

'>>77201280
I do but I'm not very successful.
Alexander spends most of his time trying to own incels.';

'>>77201681
Really? I still see hot girls walking around in the park and shit and in venues. Granted I live in Florida, we kind of have a surplus of hot woman';

'>>77201280
>Why don't you approach women? What's wrong with you?

I've tried to approach this from the Womens angle. Even if they attracted to you physically initially. I know the other factors will eventually disgust them';

'I've never actually seen a single woman interested in me, and I very, very rarely socialize with them. How the fuck am I supposed to find one? I go outside on walks, I go hiking, I work, but I'm not going to walk up to a random stranger and hit on them.';

'>>77201280
>Let yourself be accused of rape for some mid pussy you don't know, bruh
>Just waste your money on holes who couldn't care less, bruh
>Just dedicate your life for no results while Chad gets result with little or no effort.
>What you don't want to be someone's forgettable clown just so you can help pay a bastard leech the courts never let you see again anyway? Are you a cuck or gay, bruh';

'Where the fuck do you meet women after college? NOT ORIGINAL CMMENT';

'>>77201720
Even so, dont you want the practice. Afterall practice makes perfect.';

'>>77201740
>Even so, dont you want the practice. Afterall practice makes perfect.
I did the practice. I know I have autism, and they don't like autism.';

'>>77201283
The tldr of this embarrassing tweet is that he finds it normal that women can walk out of their gender roles while men are stuck in theirs.';

'>>77201729
On the sidewalk, in a grocery store, on a subway station, in a bus, in an alleyway. Be creative';

'>>77201745
>I know I have autism
Do you actually? Because it seems like every fucker has autism here, which I don't buy. How far are you on the spectrum';

'>>77201753
>Be creative
>Goes into the women's restroom to ask them out
Chad could get away with it';

'>>77201778
And you could too, if you outrun the cops that's +30 outlaw points which will increase your success in an approach';

'>>77201768
>Do you actually? Because it seems like every fucker has autism here, which I don't buy. How far are you on the spectrum
It cost $2000 for the multiple specialists to do the diagnosis, it's not some Tumblr shit.';

'>>77201809
Damn that sucks, since being socially conscious is the most important skill you need to having a gf, even more important than looks or any other redpill shit, your kinda fucked.

It is what it is';

'>>77201280
Unironically watch rehab room's video on healthy gamer (indian psychologist scammer from YT). The main topic isn't what you are talking about but he touches on the reason why men don't approach women anymore.

Essentially, the reason is that the reality isn't "ask 100 women, get 1 date". The reality is "ask 100 women, get 100 rejections". Men understood that there is no point in approaching women in the modern days. What's the point even? Getting rejected, or worse, getting it blown out of proportion by some thot who woke up on the wrong side of the bed, and then end up with no gf AND more depressed (assuming it just stops on a harsh rejection). Even a kind rejection is still bad for that matter
>Inb4 aren't you just projecting
That's the part from the rehab room video that explains why this isn't the case. The rationale behind the way these men act is that it isn't a thought based reaction. It's a reflex. The reflex is ingrained from the reality that man has experienced. Most men nowadays are simply alone for their entire lives. By the time he even gets one relationship, his girl will have had tens of partners. He knows that he is basically expendable. The moment that girl breaks up with him, she gets another guy the next day, before you can even blink. Meanwhile, you will go back to being a clown for women below your looks level to even get a date, let alone a Gf. The reflex towards the idea of approaching women is simply the same. He knows there is a almost 100% likelihood of being rejected, and the rejection will either have no consequences or negatives ones. Why should one even bother? I can understand approaching if you think there is any chance of it working, but when you yourself don't think that, it's hard to be motivated.';

'Some of us have tried it before.';

'How are you even supposed to get sex even if they are attracted to you? Just kiss them? Ask "do you want to have sex?" Say something like "lets go to my room"?';

'>>77201860
To conclude , here is a parallel.
There is a 1957 paper on how rats saved from drowning and then thrown into water once more survived 240x longer. The author supposed it must have been that the rats were hoping they were going to be saved.

Now imagine this: the men are the rats. They spent the better part of 2 decades thinking that if they tried really hard, they too could get a GF. So they go through the dating ring, they do sel-improoooooove meme religiously and consume every bit of redpill media they can their hands on for motivation (YOU ARE GONNA IMPROVE BRUV, YOU ARE GONNA GO TO THE GYM, YOU ARE GONNA GET THE RHINOPLASTY, YOU ARE GONNA GET RICH etc. etc.). Then they still get rejected, get into dates with mediocre women (fat women 2-3 points below their looks) who could not care less about them even if they unironically are the smartest and most interesting man they have ever met. And if they get into a relationship, it's with a girl who has 0, ZERO worries about him leaving her. I mean what is he even going to do if he leaves her? Go MSTOW? Play videogames and cum into a sock? What's the point?

The men are the rats who simply didn't get saved. They drowned less tired.';

'>>77201879
You also forgot the guy who got 1000 rejections on the inkwell forum, legendary thread. I could not get 1000 rejections even if I tried, not because I'd get laid, but because that's like 3 rejections a day for an entire year, that's way too much effort to prove a point.';

'>>77201705
Have you considered shipping some of the surplus hot women to somewhere more deserving?
Somewhere like bangladesh?';

'>>77201935
It would be funny seeing women be shipped to the hellholes of the third world Muslim nations or maybe India.';

'>>77201913
1,000? Try one million. Can't beat this high score';

'>>77201363
This
We're all manchildren in some ways';

'>>77201543
This, you have to stand out some way. Clearing her throne is the virtual way of showing up with a gift to get her attention';

'>>77201982
To be fair, the incel forums guy did it IN PERSON. This other guy just swiped on tinder.';

'Let me tell you something about me.
I played league of legends for over 10 years. In all of my years of playing I never once made into gold rank.
Gold rank isnt a particulaly impressive achievement. Common advice for people trying to get into gold is "have you tried turning on your monitor?"
I tried to improve. I tried to get better.
I watched my favorite streamer to learn to play my character. I played my one character almost exclusively. I consumed coaching content all the time. I even got one guy who was an extremely high rank to coach me in a game.
All of this effort led to nothing. Actually, it made my life worse. I as a grown man, cried tears at my inability to win at the video game. It made me question my self worth.
>If I can't improve at this thing that I'm supposed to love, then i'm certainly going to fail harder on other things. the absolute zenith of my ability is mediocrity.
I saw myself as worthless for my inability.
Even now that I have quit playing that game, and my mental health has improved. I still feel as if that experience has had a lasting impact on my psyche. It has permanently damaged me.
That is why I don't talk to women. For I know that if I experience something like that again, If I ask woman after woman out and only get their rejections, manifestions and affirmations of my inferiority, I may actually decide to kill myself. Because i can't stand existing in a world where I am worthless garbage compared to the rest of the human race.';

'>>77201982
>24?
Dude looks over 30';

'women are not "entitled" to your attention.

men are not """biologically inclined""" to approach/pursue women. you do not """need""" to impress the other gender. it is not """"chivalrous"""" to participate in """""traditional""""" gender dynamics.

you do not """""need""""" to perpetuate this western sensibility.

you do not """"""NEED"""""" to be in a romantic relationship.

when you """""""slide into the dms""""""" you are just becoming another statistic.

the bulk of your desire to pursue """""""""dating""""""""" is socially inflicted.';

'>>77201280
>say "hi" to a female
>get arrested and put in jail
yeah, just dont talk to women at all';

'>>77201283

>feminist caricature

Marriage rates continue to decline it's not a caricature it's a reality. I hate this fucking nuscience shit. Since the "accepted" stance is pro feminism they will never criticize it even when the data is staring them directly in the face.

I hypothesize that this is the reason he is mocking/shaming men because he's not allowed to criticize feminism based on faggot ideology. He is too cowardly.';

'>>77201851
>Damn that sucks, since being socially conscious is the most important skill you need to having a gf, even more important than looks or any other redpill shit, your kinda fucked.
>It is what it is

I've been able to pull girls, but the autism gives them the ick and they nope out. Like I think being attractive and having autism is worse, because in the beginning you have some hope.

But actually no. Once these girls find out who you are they want nothing to do with you. Maybe a bang if you can keep your spaghetti under control for a night.';

'>>77202015

The funniest part of that is half the people you were playing against were using hacks and the matchmaking system is patented to keep you playing endless games and puts you in a losers queue if you win too much.';

'>>77201280
The actual unironically reason I don't approach women anymore is that more than half of them are ruined with tattoos. So many times I've met someone I thought I liked, was very beautiful when I saw her clothed, only to soon find out she's an inkskin, and I can't hide my disappointment and sudden loss of interest.
https://boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/77189770#lr77196715';

'>>77202030
Well yeah. But differently from you, I don't think society will fail because of this. It will hold on for a while, even if poorly, and then implode all at once. It's kinda of what we are seeing happen already. Whether we survive the implosion, that's up for debate.';

'They're making fun of us for it bros';

'>>77202057
Again, I have asked girls out, multiple times. I've just been rejected every time.';

'>>77202051

Society will fail but not in the way you think. They're already importing the 3rd world to make up for the collapsed birth rates. THIS society will stop existing entirely and be replaced by a new lower IQ brown slave caste.

This culture is already dead and feminism killed it. And all the genetic stock that would advance society will be diluted or gone. So what continues is a long slow decline into poverty and overpopulation.

THEN comes that apocalypse you're talking about.';

'>>77201280
Fuck off Alex. Everyone knows it's you making these threads.';

'>>77202072
You just need better conversation starters bro';

'>>77202015
Iktf. Like a rat trying to scamper out of a glass bowl, you slide down no matter what.
>I still feel as if that experience has had a lasting impact on my psyche. It has permanently damaged me.
I think you realized that your fate is not within your control, and you're at the mercy of reality/nature since there is absolutely nothing you can do to climb out of the pit once you fall in it.';

'>>77202082
NTA but that's a grim reality to think of, i'd much rather have this planet be nuked than the whole world be like africa.';

'>>77201280
Asking a girl out is an humiliation ritual that I don't want to be part of.
If she wants some piece of this she needs to make the first move and make it crystal clear that she wants me';

'>>77201280
These numbers are sus and I don't see a source.

>>77201283
Why is he saying it as if these are all not completely acceptable reasons? Women can destroy your life on a whim, women don't ask men out, and feminism has completely changed the way men and women interact.

And there are others besides, women do go after the top percentage of men, women are being encouraged to sleep around and prioritize careers, men have been emasculated through media, education and society, men have found you that "just bee yourself" is not enough, porn and vidya has made men settle for less riskier alternatives, etc.';

'If you ask out a girl there is a

>99.99% chance she won't find you attractive
>99.99% chance she already has a boyfriend
>99.99% chance you are not compatible
>99.99% chance you asking her out with only bother her

Men have every right to not want to approach women who don't show signs of interest. And the part that gets glossed over the most by normies is that women don't even like being approached most of the time. Its only okay if they like the guy, all other approaches are annoyances.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZubtQIizuk';

'>>77201283
>afraid
this guy is a retard who does not comprehend statistics at scale, does not comprehend the average woman is completely unlikable and annoying and very fucking dumb on top of being promiscuous hoes, and does not comprehend that modern relationships are not lasting relationships.
so you want me to throw myself at a brick wall until eventually i get lucky and someone accepts right? i have to endure endless rejection and genuine harm via eroding of your self worth and confidence, to net myself an undesirable slag who makes my life more miserable instead of more enjoyable because if you insist on having standards you will basically never get lucky as your pool of approachable women drops to near zero anyway, AND THEN it still only lasts what, between 6 and 24 months on average before they cheat or move on and it was all ultimately a complete waste of time and energy?

excuse me but do you have brain problems? are you well?
how the fuck can you in any way remotely view this as some kind of positive or net gain lmfao.
shut the fuck up you genuine clowns.
men do not want your loose hole for a brief rental period whilst having to put up with your shit behaviour and attitudes. men want lifelong monogamous relationships with people who are actually tolerable.';

'>>77201283
the beatings will continue until morale improves, originally of course';

'>>77201943
cue that one webm of the white girl at a beach in some south asian slum getting surrounded by brownoids to the point where she can't even see the beach';

'>>77202046
Imagine genuinely believing this
Create a new account and you'll still get shit on. The key to winning at 90% of 5v5 comp games is having a good mindset.';

'>>77202535
Engagement based matchmaking. It's a real thing, look it up.';

'How about a spin on this thread: Distractions are now so good that they can effectively subsidize your desire for intimacy and sex?
Think about it, every form of entertainment at your fingertips, jack off when you're horny and go back to lala land, any time you're sad you can just distract yourself with all the fun things that are so easily available now.
If you bring drugs and alcohol into it you can numb yourself out for decades, no one enjoys bingbing wahoo like dudeweedlmao.
Now if you have actual decent friends, and hobbies you attend and can derive some kind of purpose from, then what else do you need?
Maybe the whole reason why things are going to shit isn't a specific thing, but the fact that the men who can enjoy socializing with women can do so with little to no cost, and the men that are lower on the totempole can simply check out and live a fairly comfortable alternative lifestyle.

That's why no one is correcting women, because men simply doesn't care to. We'll take what we can get, and if we can't get pussy we'll play World of Warcraft and fap all day.';

'humiliation ritual

women are only attracted to Chad. approaching them like this is an ego boost (and they will reject you)';

'>>77201280
lmk when the media isn't allowed to ruin your life over some crazy bitch who decides to video you and make up a batshit crazy story about trying to ask her out. Sure it's still rare but it's a shit lottery to play.';

'>>77201280
What's the point? Originally.';

'>>77201280
Ive never approached a woman in my life. In fact, I havent spoken to a woman in 25 years. I just assume that no woman would be interested in me. I offer nothing to a woman she cant get from another guy and more. Im 5'6, white, have a small 5 inch dick, and am 3/10 at best. Why would a woman even consider me? Shes surrounded by better guys every single day in person and online. Just makes more sense to just never try. Women are happier sharing Chad and lusting after him. Nothing I can do.';

'>>77201283
Kek I'm the middle. Yes I'm dying alone (no I don't care heehee)';

'>>77201363
>dude just go get rejected 10000 times it won't affect your mental health at all';

'>>77201339
>Yeah bro you just ask again and again and again and again, at some point she will realize how much of an alpha male you are, bro!

>FourChan
You need to go back.';

'>>77202352
I reverse image searched this image and now I'm masturbating to that artist.';

'>>77201280
Why should I approach whores?
You are the ones who should be seeking job opportunities from me.';

'>>77201363
>duuuuude he fucks bro lmao just ask them out
Your friend sounds like a nigger who doesnt hold a relationship';

'>>77201280
Approaching women is a humiliation ritual for sub-8s. Why risk being put up on tiktok or getting relentlessly clowned on? Asking out women in the modern day is a waste of time, its denigrating and humiliating in a ritualised fashion. You get dissed, used and lead on continuously if you're not apex-chad or abusechad and don't understand you could never be them.';

'>>77201879
rip
>>77201982
why his face look ham(rip)';

'>>77201280
what's wrong with women?';

'>>77202535

It's a patent you absolute fucking idiot. Go read, nigger.';

'>>77202015
Damn all that just to say you've acquired a learned helplessness mentality.';

'>>77204652

Accepting reality isn't helplessness. If anything the delusion of "just approach" and constant rejection is more harmful than just living a peaceful life. There are other forms of fulfillment outside of "pulling bitches."';

'>>77201280
i am scared of getting into trouble or causing a scene and i don't want to bother people without good reason (hey you are cute is not a good reason)';

'oh also i am ultra scared of stds i forgot about that';

'>>77204652
What do you think I was supposed to take away from that experience?';

'>>77201283
About what I'd expect from a guy with a BA in psychology';

'>>77204699
The guy in your pic was copying a bunch of pua lines and just regurgitating them like a robot. The pua lines are creepy because they are indirect, they mask intention and woman can sense that. You have to be direct in an approach because it gives freedom for her to leave, the upside is that this directness will make you very attractive.

>constant rejection is more harmful
Rejection builds confidence. Once you get rejected enough you will laugh at how stupid you were for being afraid of it. Like every fear, it's just something you have to charge against and conquer.

If anything this coward mentality is more harmful than anything. How will you go through life being able to do anything if your not willing to face your fears. This is how you live a life of weakness';

'>>77201280

I have.They all turned me down
I get approached but they mentally unwell';

'>>77201879
didnt you read what he said ? He said hes super ugly why would you take this as a meaningful example ?';

'>>77201622
get a fast food job there will be multiple poorfag girls aged 17-25 there, as long as you arent literally homeless one will probably like you at least a little bit and you can go from there';

'>be autistic or something
>women only fucking only show interest or hint about what they want through plausible deniability
>try hint back or ask a question
>girl misinterprets and rejects herself
This has happened to me like six times';

'>>77205069
>>women only fucking only show interest or hint about what they want through plausible deniability
Yes. So why are you imitating their behavior you retard? When they go left you go right. You don't mirror their behavior, you contrast it.';

'>>77201363
It's easy to fuck. Easier than ever. You just open an app and have it on demand if you're not too picky.
The hard part is finding a good girl that will stay';

'>>77205094
What does that mean though at what point do I just say to her are you trying to fuck';

'>>77204920
rejection is extremely mentally damaging to most people, fuck you and your shitty troll attempt';

'>>77205173
If it is then fuck them. If rejection is too much to handle then you are not worthy of anything in life. You are too weak to muster the courage to go through the troubles in life, unironically just lie down and rot';

'>>77205204
uhm i havent been rejected since like 6th grade because i had late blooming genes and now look great, but im not gonna pretend it wasnt a nightmare before my good fortune became apparent';

'>>77205170
You don't have to be vulgar about it. Ofcourse it depends on the context but for instance I will invite a girl to watch a movie at my place after a date and usually they get the idea.';

'>>77205039
Don't get a fast food job you'll exclusively work with ex-cons and blacks, unless it's Chick fil a, then it'll be blacks but no ex cons. Attractive white girls work at real restaurants where they "earn" good tips since they're attractive white girls. So get a service job at a normal sit down restaurant. Washing dishes is a good option for robots. It's kinda the bottom of the totem pole in the restaurant, but you'll be forced to interact with the serving wenches when they need dishes or silverware. They won't fuck you because there are other cooks/servers who are taller, more attractive, more charismatic, aren't dishwashers, and have drugs to give to them, but you'll at least learn to speak to them. It won't matter in the end though because you'll grow to hate them before you ever get a chance to fuck them.';

'>>77205204
Take your Andrew Tate redpill drivel and shove it up your ass you piece of shit. You have no understanding of this issue. It's easy for you dark triad assholes to approach women and not feel anything from rejection because you people are unfeeling psychopaths to begin with who don't care about bothering women or how people perceive you.';

'>>77205232
i literally got a part time job at tim hortons for fun because im financially set and i fucked a 19 year old and a 23 year old and was working on a 22 year old before the OG 19 and 23 year old colluded to have me fired';

'>>77201283
digital alternatives exist where men dont have to embarrass themselves by getting rejected in public.
it's much easier, and you have access to a larger number of women compared to approaching 1 woman per night at a bar.';

'>>77205233
>Andrew Tate redpill drivel
Fuck Andrew tate and fuck the redpill. This is not something you'll ever get from those clowns.
>who don't care about bothering women
True actually, that's also why I do better with woman than anyone I know.
>how people perceive you
Why do you need to care about this, your just holding yourself back from realizing your true self. Understand that the opinions of the crowd changes like night and day, it's not something you should ever hold yourself to.';

'>>77201280
Cold approaching (and by extension, dating apps) only works for a small subset of men. I'm technically "above average", but nowhere near attractive or social enough to pull it off. I'd need to get to know someone first before feeling comfortable enough to ask them out. Problem is there are really no places to meet and spend time with women offline anymore

>just go to bars bro
Literally all gen x and boomer men

>just go to college bro
I did. Basically no women in my classes

>just get a job bro
I have one. Majority male work environment';

'>>77205228
Less questions about herself and more invites to do stuff type of thing?';

'>>77205297
Well specifically for my example, theis no reason a girl is coming back to your place after a date other than to fuck and they know this. I've only had one instance of a very innocent Asian girl not know what i was implying from it, she didn't mind it tho and came back for a second date tho';

'>>77205348
Well shoot theres been a couple times I was just trying to be friends with a girl and I ended up hurting her feelings cause she felt led on
Guess now I know why
>I appreciate the info
>its nice hearing its less stupid lines more I dunno invites and watch for her hints
When shes back at yours and shes being all flirty is that when I treat the whole situation like ok we re fucking or is it more hints';

'>>77205376
>When shes back at yours and shes being all flirty is that when I treat the whole situation like ok we re fucking or is it more hints
No, I just go for the kiss when I'm there and everything is just you from their.';

'>>77201318
I am fucking dying. the joke was that all 3 are equally clownish and unrealistic, but incels will totally identify with the middle one. Get trolled into eternal virginity loser.';

'>>77205407
Aight cool, sounds easy when ya put it that way';

'>>77205204
my body count is only 5 but i have never been rejected. it is an actual humiliation ritual for two reasons: women will outright approach chad or make their interest VERY obvious';

'>>77205478
>women will outright approach chad or make their interest VERY obvious
Not always the case. Some woman will never approach and will stay secluded until you take charge. You probably missed so many opportunities by not taking your chance because "durrr it's a humiliation ritual", a job interview is a humiliation ritual right, your just supposed to be handed over a job by the CEO personally right';

'>>77204920

Post a picture of your physique if you want to talk to me about a "life of weakness."';

'>>77205464
Why would you show interest first, and risk getting branded a sex pest or creep, when women will happily approach you if you are kind and sociable?';

'>>77205569
Kek No, why so you can jack off to it in your dark room. I won't give you that pleasure
>>>/fit/ might be more up your alley tho';

'The women I want to approach don't want me to approach them.';

'>>77205619

So the "strong man" scurries away like a bitch when tested. How are you going to lecture me about facing challenges when you will face none?';

'>>77205608
>risk getting branded a sex pest or creep
Some woman will think it's creepy and by them same token some will find it very attractive. The point is that you'll be filtering out for the woman who match you.
>when women will happily approach you if you are kind and sociable?
Because you risk becoming the nice guy friend. It's not a good strategy if you want to get your dick wet and ironically way more work than approaching.';

'>>77205635
What exactly do I gain from posting free fap material?';

'imagine trying to deradicaliza /r9k, what do you even think you acomplish, heven't you been in any of the other thousend of threads before this';

'>>77205681

Lmao little bitch talking tough on the internet and running away.';

'>>77201283
dude's a fucking faggot, there's your theory';

'>>77205720
>hah, your not post your cock that probes your not a real man. Your too scared huh';

'effort is worse than work. science is majority white.';

'>not being tall, muscular and successful
>approaching women

lol, chad only';

'>>77201280
Because i do not possess the qualities and the characteristics that the average girl is looking for, i just do not think i can satisfy their demands and be a suitable partner, I am not good looking enough , not financially attractive enough , not interesting enough , i am not just enough for the average woman, women are insatiable creatures that always want the best of the best and i just cannot keep up with that , i am sorry women , i am just not kenough.';

'>>77201280
It's not worth it. If I'm not 8/10 in face or 6 feet tall, it is statistically unlikely I will be successful. So it's a high risk situation with little chance of success. It's like I could technically ask a girl out, and I can also technically go try out for the NBA, but it'd be an obvious waste of time because I don't have the skills or physical prerequisites to make the team.';

'every time i see this thread it confuses me. where the fuck do you see dudes randomly approach women in the street? that shit does not happen. its some movie meme or internet pua myth';

'>>77201280
I'm gonna be honest, I just have no clue how. I can hold a conversation and make jokes just fine, I just have no idea how to start. Do I just walk up to a girl and say something? What am I supposed to say? I think there's a woman who might like me but I have no idea how to capitalize on it.';

'>>77205925
OP is just being a bored trolling faggot on the most trollable board in the history of the internet';

'i'm a 33 khv neet and i haven't spoke to a girl since middle school. I'm simply not ready and mature enough for a relationship and i don't care that much about casual sex';

'>>77205925
It's rare but I've seen it happen';

'>>77201363
Going straight for the cold approach is a risk though. It's better to get gud at bantering with strangers in public, then the opportunities will present themselves.';

'>>77205931
Introduce yourself and just be honest
>hi, my name is anon and I just thought you were cute and wanted to say hi
It's that easy';

'>>77201363
good, now tell us how he looks like';

'I feel similar to other dudes itt who say they know they have nothing to offer to women (currently). Im just too poor to actuallty date a woman for the foreseeable future. Im also below average in looks. When I did have a gf years ago, I walked up to a group of girls because they were standing in front of my gf's coat (we were in a bar) and before I could even ask them if they could step aside they hit me with the "Ew, you're not actually thinking of asking me to dance are you?". I explained the situation and they looked embarassed but it only confirmed what I already knew, that I can at best only attract a girl over time and that im too ugly for anything else.';

'>>77201280
Cold approach feels unnatural. It makes sense if a girl sends SIGNALS, the most obvious and universally understood - looking at you, and looking at you again once you catch eye contact. I'm very observable and it feels like girls just look away. I'd have no problem complimenting her bag/jacket etc, but that scenario feels unachievable when I get the impression that they refuse to acknowledge my existence.
That's my 2 cents even though not all girls are the same.';

'>>77205985
>This one experience confirms every negative thing I've thought about myself
What if you do another approach and the girl is really into it. Then what. are you both too ugly/poor to attract a girl while at the same time not.

Eventually you will realize somethings are just upto chance. Some woman will treat you like shit for talking to them where they would otherwise be extremely receptive in another context. It is what it is. Don't base your conclusions from one offs';

'>>77205233
"Every man i don't like is a dark triad asshole" A virgins guide to getting a girlfriend.

People like you deserve to die alone. >>77205204 is giving you legimately useful advice, but you still need to tell yourself that you're forever fucked anyway....

No woman would ever feel even remotely attracted to a man as cowardly and pathetic as you.';

'>>77206051
It was not just the one experience but a text can only be so long. Ive approached a lot of other girls and im not autistic or anything either. Im sorry but your assumptions are totally wrong, no biggie though.
I wasn't as poor a few years ago but some things in life happened and now I can barely sustain my own hobbies.
>Some things are up to chance
Preaching to the choir.
Anyway it wasn't a one off but like I said, you couldn't possibly know that or get that from just one text. Have a good day anon, thankyou for trying at least.';

'Women in western countries aren't even worth the trouble. Race treachery, feminism, tattoos, piercing, mental issues, no obedience or submissivines, three digit bc by the tiem they reach 19. Thanks, but no thanks.';

'>>77206153
How is that useful?
> a girl telling you that she thinks youre ugly and disgusting should just not matter to you

You should be pissed about it, not just accept it.';

'>>77206208
If a girl rejects me, I take it personally and as an attack on my character. Its her telling me I am not good enough. I need to improve and I am unworthy. It tells me I have to keep working until I become something worthy of love and respect. I use it as motivation and fuel to go to the gym or working towards a goal. Then I'll get some confidence to try again, get rejected, cycle repeats.';

'>>77206244
>Its her telling me I am not good enough. I need to improve and I am unworthy
This is no better then the incel mentality. One random woman's opinion should not be worth this much. The reason rejection shouldn't matter is because by the same token some woman will call you an ugly freak another will find your confidence very attractive. Refer to this post >>77206051 don't get caught up on one girls opinion.';

'>>77205731

I said post physique. Sorry that you're too retarded to read. I'm betting you are a manlet skinnyfat pajeet.';

'>>77201280
>>77201283
Source
>his ass
That acc is a glowie psyop all along.
>>77201363
nice analogy.
I tried that shit out for one week asked out about 100 women, and got thrown out of a bar, and I'm prohibited from entering again.
>tldr
kys and your normie friend';

'>>77206244
This screams insecurity. Its good to be a better you but love yourself a bit too bro.
>I only get confidence after bettering myself but the cycle repeats if I get rejected again
This is not healthy';

'>>77201280
I dont like bothering women if they dont wanna bother me. Sure, they might have big boobs and ass and look sexy and all that, but unless they really WANT you to talk to them, they'll make you feel like shit.';

'>>77201280
Im not going out enough
I barely go out when i do';

'>>77206020
Cold approach is how primates get laid';

'>>77201280
Why the fuck would I cold approach women? I'm looking for a LTR, which means it's important that a potential partner shares my interests and values.
Women at bars and clubs definitely don't share my values, and that's the last place I wanna go anyway.
Approaching women on the street or in public places is a total gamble because there's no guarantee we would have anything in common.
That just leaves in-person and online hobby spaces. I've tried both, but they are always, without exception, EXTREME sausage fests. Women just do not engage in hobby spaces, either online or in-person.
If women want to get approached, they need to start going to fucking hobby spaces that have men in them. Or maybe it's just that none of them even want to get approached. Idk.';

'>>77205925

It's a troll thread and OP is too faggot to deliver pics showing that he's a big alpha male.

But the truth of the matter is that men don't randomly approach women on the street and guys that do are either insane or doing some kind of stunt. You will get kicked out of businesses and get the cops called on you for harassing women in public.

Now, that rule changes if you're some 10/10 gigachad supermodel because women will flirt with you and give you social cues to approach them. They will giggle with their friends, look at you just a little "too long," play with their hair etc. If you're not autistic you can recognize the body language.

So you can conclude if zero women every show any interest in you then you are not the 10/10 gigachad and approaching them will simply have negative results. It's sad, but it's true.

Always, always, always remember that when women say "men." They mean "Chad." They want Chad to approach, not you. Once you understand that fundamental fact about women then everything makes sense.';

'>>77201879
Cause that dude was creepy asf
Hes purposely leaving out the weird shit he did. They all just decided to talk about him to others? Bullshit

>>77201982
That dude is a bitch and thats why he gets no matches

>>77202024
He stalked the bitch dude
You guys lie for your incel propaganda

>>77202308
Youre just weird dude

>>77203616
It wont
Shes allowed to say no
Her saying no just confirms all the toxic stuff you believe about yourself because you worship women

>>77203906
If theyre whores then why arent you fucking?

>>77204359
Dawg talking to women is just a few seconds dude holy shit

>>77204382
Nothing
Its bitch ass modern males that are the problem

>>77204701
So youre never going to speak to women ever? Enjoy inceldom

>>77205173
No its not
I always that this was so weird
Theres nothing wrong with a person declining your offer

>>77205204
This

>>77205232
Youre such a bitch dude

>>77205778
Bitch

>>77205947
Youre creating your lack of experiences

>>77206176
>muh western hemisphere women bad, id definitely not be a loser if i go to the other side of the planet

>>77206244
You need therapy or something
Theyre allowed to say no';

'>>77206498 (me)
>they need to start going to fucking hobby spaces that have men in them
Well, either that, or start getting on dating apps to balance the gender ratio.';

'>>77206546
Who in their right mind posts like this, get a hobby besides 4chan dude.';

'>>77206498
You dont need anything in common with a woman for relationships dude
Also talking to women is how you get relationships
Your plan is to never talk to women but expect all that to happen but it will only happen if you talk to women';

'>>77206565
Man i did not want to reply to each one individually
Im late to the thread
Also i got nothing better to do
If i had a car i would go to the beach right now';

'>>77206567
its a no win game. you can only talk to women if they want to talk to you, and women dont want ugly men to talk to them';

'>>77206567
>You dont need anything in common
How can you find things to talk about and enjoy being around someone that doesn't have anything in common with you?
>Your plan is to never talk to women
I'm not refusing to talk to women. In fact I really want to talk to women. But there just are no women in the places I enjoy going to and where it would be appropriate to talk to them.';

'>>77206580
So you dont know whats ugly or not
You have self hatred and women can pick up on that like i just did
When you talk to woemn theyre going to see you for what you are dude';

'>>77206576

>If i had a car

Get a job, nigger. You're not helping yourself by posting here.';

'>>77206580
I'm not even fucking ugly is the most frustrating thing about it. I literally have a six pack and a pretty good looking face. Anons would prob call me a "chad" if I posted pics.
The problem is that it's so fucking hard to find women that are trad and like vidya and anime. There are no places I can go to find those types of women. And I just can't imagine being in a relationship with any other type of woman and not being more miserable than I was single.';

'>>77206616
i know that im ugly. i know that from experience. if i werent ugly i'd get tinder matches and 2nd dates. dude, i tried already. its only going to get worse.';

'>>77201280
I just dont think they have that much to offer me outside sex and I can get that with legal tender from legal escorts in my country and she will be a professional. If I have to pay out the ass for "dates" anyway theres very little difference in my mind.

Whats the point? I can order pussy on my phone like uberfux, I got options now too babe.';

'>>77201280
What am I even supposed to do with one? I'm not social and perfectly content with being alone.';

'>>77206606
She can enjoy herself by talking to me

Theres women everywhere dawg

>>77206621
I cant find a job
Im to fat for the military right now and i gotta cut weight
I got no future here so i gotta escape

>>77206656
So your mindset is ugly dude
You thinking having a sixpack will have women wanting the dick is a problem
Cause if you had no sixpack then what?

>>77206660
Your self hatred is ugly
You sound insecure like a woman and thats why they dont mess with you

>>77206673
Dudes that women arent interested in have to pay for dates and do a numch of bullshit';

'TOTAL BLUEPILL DEATH';

'>>77206745
Your wasting your time. The people on here don't want to change they're lives, they want to stay in their pathetic state. And that's fine, just like their will always be homeless crack heads and peasants working the fields their will always be boys who will never find a wife. It is what it is';

'>>77206766
This, a lot of this shit is just regurgitated /adv/ bs.';

'>>77206795
Yeah
Winners win and losers lose';

'>>77201433
This, this, and more of this.
If you are screwed in that particular way that makes you afraid of love itself (no matter how much you want it), it's a ticket to the land of confusion for you. You approach hoping for a "yes" but wanting a rejection because it feels like a "yes" would kill you on the spot.
Anon thinks that we haven't embraced rejection as a part of life? We, most of whom have been repeatedly rejected so many times by parents, peers, romantic interests already? My God man, we live in a world where rejection is all there is to life, and acceptance becomes something unreal: a cause for disintegration.';

'>>77206795
The advice of "just be confident" and "change your mindset" doesn't say much. It just means you're more willing to play a numbers game, but it doesn't mean you'll boost your chances. I guess its better than pessimism, but it won't guarantee you success. More it will just help you cope better and more likely to take the risk.';

'>>77206845
>more likely to take the risk.
This is a part of what you need to be a winner in life. Who the fuck sayed approaching woman is the endgame, it's literally just the first step. You start with taking risks this way and you move on to the bigger but more lucrative risks, because all the wealth in this world belongs to those who are willing to give it up for all. And confidence will come along the way as you become more bolder with your risk taking.';

'>>77206845
Just be confident is bad advice because you dont know what confidence is
Also being yourself is also bad advice because you arent your true self either
You need to learn from someone who is confidence and who is their authentic selves';

'>>77201283
Why do faggot liberals talk down like that

No, you're not the smartest person in the room lke you think you are retarded faggot';

'>>77207025
They then wonder why they are losing men to retards like andrew tate lol. Even when they try and be "helpful" their inherent disdain for anything male/masculine shines through and disables any effort.';

'>>77201982
That guy is honestly looks like shit, hairline on the top of his head, overweight, shit glasses and terrible fashion. There's a certain point where you need to reevaluate your strategy and try to improve yourself instead of spending every day mindlessly swiping on dating apps.
Any retard that argues with this proves their just like the females they talk shit about. You can't demand something without putting in work.';

'>>77207077
>their inherent disdain for anything male/masculine shines
What? He's literally telling them to take action and approach, that is masculine. And he's making fun of the feminine position "waaahh why dont THEY approach me instead", and "im scared bro, the feminism is gonna get me, the societal repercussions of saying hi to a girl man"';

'>>77207119
>He is being helpful dude
He isn't really, he is making fun of people and disguises it under a veil of trying to be helpful. If the first thing out of your mouth is "You guys are pussies" when trying to help someone you shot yourself in the foot before even starting. That is, if you are genuinely trying to help. That dude obviously isn't though, let's be real.
Tldr; immediately ridiculing the group you want to help is counterproductive (obviously)';

'>>77206998
>Also being yourself is also bad advice because you arent your true self either
No the actual problem with being yourself is that your true self is shit. You were raised by society to be a beta so it's not your fault, but thats how it is.

With that being said it's still BETTER to be your true self then it is to imitate someone else. Because when your being your true self your not placating yourself for her, your sticking to your core values. And hopefully through induring all the shit in life and being active everyday your true self won't be so shit and you'll grow to be better.';

'>>77205204
>you are not worthy of anything in life.
Just saying, if you said this to me in real life, I would murder you, I do not care if I will rot in prison forever or if my mother will be sad about this, I murder any son of a bitch that disrespect me like that, be careful with what you say, piece of shit.';

'>>77207206
Do you really think fags like that would say that irl? Dont worry gooba';

'>>77207155
Yes, but it's hard not to when you see the utter shit these boys will make up just to avoid something so easy

He has disdain for his audience no doubt, and it really shows that if you want to help people stick to people who are think similerly. The people here are not salvageable tho so it doesn't matter anyway.';

'>>77207206
Lul, you won't do shit faggot. Go jack off to loli shit toughguy';

'>>77207218
>Yes, but its hard not to
All that needs to be said. Idk why he even does he care, more women for him right. I dont see the problem desu. He just sounds angry to be angry.
>It doesnt matter anyway
Correct so why be this gay and this angry trying to make a difference. (about that guy ofcourse)';

'Approaching women is hard because its awkward and feels forced. It feels obvious that you're approaching them because you're attracted to them, so there's a lot of pressure and the focus becomes on attraction because that is the pretext of the whole approach. The man needs to offer some sort of compelling reason to talk to the girl and have something to capture her interest other than looks just in case she isnt physically attracted to you. If she is physically attracted to you, its easier and she'll be more immediately receptive, but if she isn't, you may still be able to persuade her through charisma and charm. You just need to know what is appropriate to say in the situation and gauge her receptiveness.';

'>>77207238
He has a certain audience hes trying to attract. Some boys will like this stern attitude because of absent father. It's not a very moral way of attracting people to your course or whatever, but it works';

'>>77201280
What do I even tell them?..

Let's be friends and pls can you be so kind to satisfy my touch starvation and needs for companionship, compassion and emotional closeness?';

'Living life without a girlfriend or wife and losing my virginity doesnt seem that hard honestly.
I've lived 28 years of my life like this so far, whats another 50 or so?';

'>>77207239
>It feels obvious that you're approaching them because you're attracted to them,
Because that IS why your approaching them. This where the honesty comes into play and why you have to be direct, if you trying makeup some excuse to talk to her then your being indirect and avoident. Never be indirect, talking to a pretty girl is enough of an excuse as it is. Straight up just "hi your cute my name is X" and just wing it from their, don't contrive some kind of scheme of what to say, just trust your brain will figure it out when the pressure is on';

'>>77207262
His constant seething about other topics and the incessant whining + his "women are way hotter than men so fuck you" mindset comes off as super feminine desu. It only attracts the kind of guy that already believes in whatever he says, he isn't converting the actual dudes who dont approach women for those 3 reasons. So once again, even if he is trying to be helpful, he turns away potential converts by being a faggot.';

'>>77201280
i do sometimes, but usually they initiate because i choose to appear cute, and it is a choice. There's a whole toolbox available to at least anyone who isn't fat';

'>>77207385
>choose to appear cute
Like how? But also where?';

'>>77205039
Once I got a fast food job and apart from all the poorfag young women there was one 10/10 17yo girl from a very wealthy family that just worked because she wanted to. By all means a rare catch, wonder if one of the younger lads bagged her in the end and got a golden ticket out of that shithole.
>>77205232
Even the black ones can be total babes. Ex-cons are fucking fun to hang on with because they are just as anti-social as us (but more violent).
I've washed dishes as well but you are right cooking is more fun. Real Chads hang out in the front of house staff though, there is no debate here.';

'>>77201280
I haven't met anyone worth approaching';

'>>77201280
>Why don't you approach women?
I am in a devout and loving relationship with my waifu';

'no pussy
no work
no taxes
only video games, 4chan and anime';

'ok, so this is where you sit and wait when you want to have sex. works every time. best kept secret.';

'>>77207400
various shows/raves/parties and other events you'd be going to if you were cute';

'>>77207461
If you were a socionigga*

Or idk, maybe it indeed is how people live in the West';

'>>77206795

Post your strong alpha male physique.';

'>>77201280
Why does he come to the conclusion that this is somehow the fault of all men instead of the far more obvious reason that society has become just far less forgiving for any man who'd attempt a cold approach? When vast amounts of a demographic are following a certain trend, you can't just blame it on individual choice. There's a larger cause behind these numbers.';

'>>77207545
Take a look at his twitter and notice the constant "Women are beautiful angels" posting.';

'>>77206498
>If women want to get approached
They already are.
There are no single women and even the women who are single are whores jumping around on random cocks all the time.';

'>>77206546
>talking to women is just a few seconds dude holy shit
By the power of maniacal paranoia my mind has computed several hours worth of possible future outcomes based on this simple conversation.
>>77207206
>Gurafag has another BPD meltdown
Based af
We need more Cluster B footsoldiers to harass normies.';

'>>77207226
You'd fold under my hand.';

'>>77207574
Apparently not. If the data in the OP is true, then about 45% of women 18-25 likely haven't been approached.
And why else would people be so aghast at this revelation that men aren't approaching, unless women are unsatisfied with the amount they're being approached?';

'>>77207700
It would be fun watching you when your ego breaks from the brutal anal bleeding my dick will give you.

Narcissists always fall the hardest';

'>>77207722

Because women need to reject men in order to feel that they are higher in the social hierarchy. If a woman is completely ignored it means she's low in value. They get a thrill out of turning down betas.';

'Just go full 1488 Jokermaxxing.

If there is one thing that women can't stand, it's lesser males trying to pathtically approach them, The sheer horror on their face is worth it all, especially when you tell them that you are a khv virgin gamer.';

'>>77201363
>People just fear rejection and are lazy. That's why poor people don't just pick themselves up by their bootstraps and open up a business or go to an existing business and give the manager a firm handshake while looking them in the eye

It's funny to me how people really think the male default is "grow up hating women and masturbating to porn for literally no reason". Men have to be bullied AWAY from interacting with women.';

'>>77207795
>>People just fear rejection and are lazy. That's why poor people don't just pick themselves up by their bootstraps and open up a business or go to an existing business and give the manager a firm handshake while looking them in the eye

Based boomer advice.
Only leftists and incels get mad when you say this. Yeah if you don't want to be poor just stop, are you stupid? Low iq? Then your better off just not existing. Niggers can figure out ways to survive, and they fuck bitches, why can't you?';

'>>77207791
If women are so maniacally evil that they want men to approach them just so they can reject them, then why do they constantly bitch about men approaching them?
I'm of the mind that lots of women are lonely and do genuinely want to be approached, but they're just retarded and/or lazy and won't go to the places they need to go to in order to be approached.';

'>>77207921

You're wrong. Women are not lonely. If they are alone they have too high of expectations and are angry that Chad isn't approaching them. They are still fully contemptuous of average men but now aren't getting the ego boost from turning them down.';

'>>77207111
You are a dumb nigger. God fucking damn you are such a gorilla you can't comprehend numbers.
>There's a certain point where you need to reevaluate your strategy and try to improve yourself
You're saying that out of literally more than A MILLION WOMEN, NOT A -SINGLE- ONE WAS ON HIS LEVEL? When you know for a fact there were plently of women who were fatter than him, less well groomed than him, lazier thean him, etc. Those kinds of women are by no means in short supply. But not a single one of those women, not a single one out of 1,020,448 thought "he is on my level. He is in my lane. This can work.". And you think he can just "work harder" and appease those women? For what? So his improved self can get a woman that is the equivalent of his unimproved self?
God has damned you with retardation.';

'>>77207921
Yes, they are actually that evil. They want to build a giant cage to put all he robots here and have them slaughter each other to death to win them over and then the winner gets his balls lopped off and is put on a leach to become there dog. They all want this to happen and the only person holding them back from this dream is chad (not out of his good will i might add).

Realize that this is how things are in this world and that the only solution is a brutal gendercide that decides the fate of humanity. Either we become a femdom world like what I described above or a return to medieval gender relations.

The choice for what future to fight for is yours to make...';

'>>77207910
you are the boomer here. boomers did not have to face ANY adversity, yet feel like they have all of the wisdom in the world and that young poor people just aren't pulling themselves up by the bootstraps. women did not have to face ANY adversity in the dating world, yet make men hate themselves for not willingly throwing themselves against brick walls until they stick, destroying their self-esteem and sense of self in the process. you people are fucking disgusting.';

'>>77201280
I am old and creepy (25)';

'>>77201363
>Most men in this board fear rejection
I think a lot of incels fall into this category. It is also why I think common platitudes of "just ask them out" or "get better" won't work because it's not addressing the problem. This is not good advice, as if it was we would not have the same repeat of such talking points and responses on here and Reddit. Either they want to but they can't because they just freeze up, or they do and get rejected and it hits them in an abnormally intense way. I've known guys who were incels where it took years to get over rejections which should have taken weeks. Assuming a lot of the guys on here have autism, I think it's an emotional dysregulation issue that manifests as rejection sensitivity dysphoria. The issue is, dipshits on here and Reddit see this as a problem of ethics when it's more a problem of engineering. There are probably mechanisms related to emotion in the brain meaning the rejection they feel is more like coming off heroin in its worst manifestations rather than something minor which you can get over. Given the unpredictability of dating and courtship and given abnormal emotional regulation, a brute force method might not work. I think medical intervention to attenuate emotional stimuli in the brain might work better.';

'>>77206795
if you were born and raised to be the man you are today, but in a world where the /r9k/ mindset was the one that the majority of people subscribed to, would you forcefully change yourself just to be accepted? would you change everything about yourself, all of your opinions, fix your personality, risk rejection after rejection after a life of isolation, etc just to feel desired and loved by someone? except it's not you if you change to that extent. they love your persona and the person you're trying to be, not you or your thoughts. it's not worth the effort. people underestimate how hard it is to change your personality later in life.';

'>>77205464
>Not wanting to be a woman's clown and beg for her pussy is "clownish and unrealistic"
modern 4tran moment';

'>>77208065
>I think it's an emotional dysregulation issue that manifests as rejection sensitivity dysphoria.
It's not a disregulation.
In our ancestral environment trying to partner with a woman was a real risk; you have to fight off all the other men who also want to partner with her. If you get rejected by her, now you take a hit in social status and have to deal with stigma because no woman wants to be with the man every other woman rejected.';

'>>77208001
>you are the boomer here
Correct little zoomie boy. Did you make any money from 2008 financial crisis? No? That's what I fucking thought. You were probably watching fucking pokemon when it happened, you don't know shit about the world and I can see it just from the way you type.
>adversity
Just what are the adversities of the new generation. Hmm let's see, too much porn, being short attention span little fucks that can't even do their school work, being too much of a little shyboy to talk to woman, oh you poor thing. You've suffered so much, why don't you go on and scroll tiktok and all your worries will go away. Yes woman did this to you, your a poor victim and what you need is to be cuddled.

Kill yourself zoomcuck, your entire generation of woman is riding my dick and it's great';

'If I was 30+ years old on 4tranny using gay internet slang like zoomer I would probably kill myself desu';

'>>77204920
>rejection builds confidence
It builds confidence at first, but if you keep getting rejected and keep getting rejected with no forseeable change in outcome, it has a net negative impact on your psyche. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results. If there is no feeling of progression after a considerable amount of effort has been put in, it will result in learned helplessness, as in anon's case that he explained.';

'>>77208111
tldr I am a male feminist faggot and I exist to worship women';

'>>77207950
Life is not fair. If there's something you want and your not getting it, then you have to change up your strategy. No one deserves anything besides basic respect and whatever rights your country allows you. Yea its fucked up that as a man, you have to go above and beyond for pussy, but it is what it is and you live in a world where pussy has an over inflated value. Also dating apps are the worse place to be evaluated on your worth as a potential dating prospect as a heterosexual man as nothing besides your looks is taken into account. Women are much more cerebral when it comes to deciding who they want to fuck, so for you to have a shot on dating apps, you have to be top 10% in attractiveness while this dude is in the bottom 10%.
Also, the most important thing is, you should want to be better for yourself and not some stupid whore on the internet. You should want to not be fat because being fit feels better. You should want to dress nicer because wearing better fit clothing feels better. Sitting here crying and shitting yourself because women that are as ugly, fat and retarded as you, don't give you a chance is absolutely deplorable. Stop enjoying being a loser. Improve yourself because (You) want to be better.';

'>>77201363
your friend sounds like a faggot. his entire life is desperately seeking validation from foids by being their monkey';

'>>77208111
you know less about the world than zoomers do and that's what's really sad. you really think everything you got in life was the result of your own hard work just like all other boomers. the reality is that the stars didn't align. the generations before you created a time in which you were allowed to do everything you ever wanted to do. all you know is blind positivity and "MINE MINE MINE". the average 20 year old has suffered and experienced more than most boomers have in their entire lifetime. enjoy what you have while you can.';

'>>77201280
The main issue is simping, delete dating apps, stop following following and liking pictures from skanks on IG or Twitter, stop putting the pussy on a pedestal.';

'>>77208072
>/r9k/ mindset
Get rid of that it's cringe. And so is the societal mindset. Both are poisonous and should be cast into the flames. Instead take the winner mindset, the one that gets you everything in this world and allows you to conquer life and reality.

Changing your personality is hard. But it starts with taking action, because just thinking a way is not enough you have to embody it, and by approaching you are taking a risk and that already boosts your mindset from before.';

'>>77208148
>t. angry zoomboy';

'>>77207910
Interesting. I have never thought about relationships through the work analogy before. I know a lot of robots struggle with both, but somehow I've got the "proper" mindset about work:
>I am hardworking, educated, quick to learn and a benefit to anyone that hires me.
>Even if I don't find a well paid job, I can be satisfied with a lower wage.
>If I can't immediately find work I will just talk to more people.
>I will just send more applications.
>I will just learn more skills.
>Maybe one day I will establish a business of my own if I find a lucrative niche.
Meanwhile with relationships it's the exact opposite.
>I am lazy, inattentive, unresponsive to people and a drag for anyone that interacts with me.
>Even if I get friends and a gf that are very good people I will still be unsatisfied and find many faults with them.
>If I can't immediately find people to satisfy my social needs I will just cope by reading books, working and browsing the Internet.
How strange, to hold both of these positions at the same time.
>Niggers
Oh cmon, the low IQ ones operate on instinct alone. Learning level zero. Just maintain biological function and reproduce. They don't develop the pathologies of advanced consciousness, because they have not developed one.';

'>>77208214
it doesn't matter what you do as an individual when the greater social trend is to put them on a pedestal. i have never put women on a pedestal, but that does not prevent them from BELIEVING that i do. it's like when you can tell a woman you're talking to thinks you're into her due to how much validation she's gotten throughout her life';

'>>77208235
t. male feminist paypig';

'>>77208214
idk why you're telling robots and other "incels" to do this they're not the ones worshipping women its "normal people" that do all that shit. Most OnlyFans subscribers are boomer retards with wives and kids.';

'>>77208221
why improve when my absolute peak would be on the same level as the average person not trying? what do i gain? improve my life for what? what is the goal?';

'Just approach random women in public, bro

Lmao';

'>>77208144
>rejected with no forseeable change in outcome
You won't, as long as your being direct you won't. But the point is that you accumulate a dozen times more rejections than not and it will never be a clear pattern. You will have(r is rejection and w is win): rrrrrrrrrrrrrrwwwrrrrwrrrwrrrrrrrrrrrwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrwrrrrrrrrrrr
Is how it's going to go, a long string of rejections but proportional to the number of positive interactions. And eventually this experience will accumulate to you letting go any fear of outcome, you will feel free from any pressure of "wait maybe im too ugly, im getting rejected so much" and "oh my God im such a stud i got so many numbers" and you will just not care. You also be less constrained by the opinions of woman and society on general.
t. Avid cold approacher';

'>>77208299
>when my absolute peak would be on the same level as the average person not trying
Bro did you see the graph, the average person does not even approach. They are lucky to get laid at parties. The average number of hookups a person had in collage is 2-3. You will far surpass the average male.';

'>>77208414
the average person doesn't approach not because they're scared, but because they know they're not good enough. the people who feel this way and / or get rejected are better than i could ever hope to be by virtue of facial attractiveness and height. me being le enlightened, confident, and muscular will change nothing. women want to feel small, protected, and provided for before they can love or desire you, and i can do none of that. bad birth roll';

'Approaching women is literally the most demeaning and humiliating act I can think of. I am constantly told how women and women are equal yet this isn't true as I am the one forced to go up to one like I'm at a job interview.';

'>>77208065
Very enlightened post. What you are describing already has a name, and it's called "neuroticism": the tendency to experience negative emotions much more strongly than the average person.
I am personally skeptical of treating it with medication but it's much better than just framing it as a moral issue and telling people they are freaks because they are different.
It's fundamentally a problem of personality. "Engineering" sort of implies that you can pull some levers and get yourself on track as long as you are in a supportive environment (which is the premise of cognitive behavioural therapy) but that doesn't work when your very personality is rotten too much to have the strength to consistently pull these levers.
>>77208072
There is a (somewhat outdated?) concept in psychology called the "double bind". The basic idea is that your logic gets confused by contradictory demands that cannot be fulfilled at the same time, leading to decision paralysis or/and delusion.
So in evolutionary terms: once conditions change a species either becomes extinct, or it transforms into a new species, also leading to extinction.
Once you are aware of the faults in your personality, you must either suffer them or change your personality ("die" and "be reborn", a second birth, metamorphosis), in which case it won't be "you" anymore.
You cannot win against a double bind. You must somehow change your perspective altogether by recognising it as a fundamentally unreconcilable situation. I don't know how exactly though.';

'>>77208492
>women want to feel small, protected, and provided for before they can love or desire you, and i can do none of that.

Yes. But not necessarily through muscles and being tall, more so with wealth and status. They want somebody akin to a king, or atleast a level above a peasant. And yeah ofcourse those normies aren't worthy, they're pathetic, they walk through life not really in control just letting things take their course, they are not leaders.

Why do you elevate normies to such prestige? Their lives are nothing to envy, I suppose if you think your going to live an sexless incel for the rest of your life it must look like heaven. But I promise you its not. You want to aim for bigger, and wallowing away in self-pity will never get you there';

'>>77207780
>YOU ARE EL narcist
Concession: DETECTED.';

'>>77208615
The faggot anime poster I responded literally does identify as a narc';

'>>77208635
I didn't know, actually. Take care and take it easy too.';

'>>77208576
>just gain all that wealth and status so they can take it on a whim
Lmao, the only winning move is not to play.';

'>>77201280
>Why don't you approach women? What's wrong with you?
i have approached circa 320 bitches, still no pussy on my BPC. I have accumulated only trauma bigger than war veterans. Dont approach unless you want to live with a big wound in your soul forever.';

'>>77208382
Ah so you just need to grind your face against a brick wall in the vauge hope a woman gives you pity pussy.
Excellent, this is exactly how society works.';

'>not going to /x/ and learning to use Law Of Attraction to get the perfect gf without effort';

'>>77208568
>Once you are aware of the faults in your personality, you must either suffer them or change your personality ("die" and "be reborn", a second birth, metamorphosis), in which case it won't be "you" anymore.
not sure if it's outdated, but it makes sense to me. i've experienced this time and time again throughout my life and have grown as a person exponentially because of it. problems arise when you get to the depths of yourself and realize that some of the conflicts are at the core of your morals. like having this strong resentment for how women navigate the dating world, but also understanding that i wouldn't love or desire myself either. some of them will take a lifetime to confront for sure.
>>77208576
i don't think the more so part is true. i think it's an either-or that is both when you're looking at the best of the best. what i understand now is that the men who were born tall, attractive, had good upbringings, no mental illnesses, etc are the only men who will ever be loved for who they are. for what they look like, for what they were born and raised to be. money cannot buy love is a common saying for a reason
>Why do you elevate normies to such prestige?
i don't. what i envy is how easy everything is for them. i like who i am as a person, i am just sad that other people don't. that's what it comes down to. other people can live life on autopilot and live happy lives because of what they were born and raised as.';

'>>77208729
You keep using this metaphor of the brick wall. It seems appropriate in many cases, particularly that of bad PUAs autistically hitting on women and getting shut off immediately (and even good ones have many such experiences).
But that's not how people in general are. Most of the time people are trusting and responsive. Unless your social skills are at ground zero, only 1 in 10 rejections will be terrifyingly bad. 9 out of 10 rejections people will try to turn down nicely even the most outrageous demands ("I just met you let me lick your toes") because they are afraid of confrontation. Women in particular.
I know it's easy to convince yourself that all people/all women are like brick walls but that's not reality. Don't violently throw yourself at walls. Engage with real people in meaningful ways.';

'>>77208568
The man who stands with his pride against what is truly wrong always wins. I know how idealistic that sounds, but when you are somebody who truly sees the faults in the world, and yourself, you develop a strong sense of pride when seeing how the faults of the world have distorted your personality and morals. Standing strong to be your true self is important, and knowing who that is even more. To view it as suffering has always seemed a bit dismissive of the entire reason we have chosen to suffer in the first place.';

'>>77201280
Desperate males act extremely rapey and women that fucked around too much see their past sexcapades as rape by way of false consent. Anyone shilling womanizier methods is retarded and thinking you can approach people in real life is out of date.';

'>>77201362
this desu, just want to save ,myself the fucking embarrassment
this is an original post';

'>>77208691
>BPC
?';

'>>77208883
big pussyfree cock. Lure more newfag.';

'>>77208772
>money cannot buy love is a common saying for a reason
It's not the money in its self that buys attraction, but the power you exude through it. And part of that requires YOU to also live upto a that power, which you actually will when you accumulate status and experience you will start to gain a certain personality.

>what i understand now is that the men who were born tall, attractive, had good upbringings, no mental illnesses, etc are the only men who will ever be loved for who they are.
Your wrong that they are the only ones who will be loved for themselves. But otherwise, yeah some people are born lucky while your lucky to be born, they got the gold star package while you got nothing, it is what it is. It doesn't say anything about what you WILL become however.';

'>>77208978

Yeah it just says that I will be rejected for doing the exact same thing that Chad does but he succeeds. And any advice from Chad is retarded because we are living two distinctly different realities. Eventually I have to do a cost/benefit analysis of beating my head against a brick wall of approaches and determine if it's causing me too much time, anxiety, and reputation destruction for what I'm getting back.

If I do hundreds of approaches for nothing it's clear that I'm wasting my time when women will approach Chad. Your bullshit "just get out there" speeches are completely out of touch.';

'if you aren't being approached by women, you aren't attractive and the best you can hope for is a "situationship" with the driest sex and dates you can imagine';

'>>77201280
You don't have to physically approach a woman at all for her to reject you. They do it through body language and obvious signals. Women reject hundreds of men a day. I have been rejected thousands of times despite never approaching a woman.';

'>>77209419
>we are living two distinctly different realities
I do feel this when I talk to people here. Like all this is so alien to people here. Things that feel intuitive to me is lost to the robots. But I know for a fact that when you were 6-13 years old you shared a similer mindset. Like if somebody talked down to you or tried to make fun of you, you would attack ruthlessly, you didn't let social standards dictate you, low inhibition . And then society betathizes us to become subservient to all their made up rules.

But you know you can just break them and theirs no actual repercussions. You don't have to be humble or needlessly nice.
>time
Not really, it's actually the most time efficient method, way better than getting to know a girl for a month and then asking her out only to get rejected.
>anxiety
This is something you have to confront and purge if approaching causes you anxiety than more reason to do it so you overcome it.
>reputation destruction
What reputation. Be honest your here so it's unlikely you are on the map. This is really the least of your worries, it will be something that people who already dislike you to hate you even more, nothing of value will be lost.';

'>>77209656

You never addressed the point you're just puking out platitudes. Are you a bot or an extremely obtuse moron?';

'I used to get approached by females and even had a relationship with some in the past, and it just didn't make me happy. It felt like a chore. Like something I'm doing just because society expects me to, but not because I actually want to.

In the past 4 years I started dating men, and my relationship with another guy for the past 2 years actually makes me super happy. Which is weird, because I think of myself as straight.

inb4 "closet gay". nah, probably bi is more like it. I know for a fact I'm attracted to a good looking female body and can cum to a woman easily, if she's not fat or ugly. But women behavior just turns me off so much. It feels like I have to be fake myself around her or else she loses interest in me, and her whole interest is superficial and based entirely on what she can get out of me.

With my boyfriend I'm actually happy, we can cuddle and relax together, I can talk about my private thoughts and not be afraid of being judged or belittled, he can actually understand me and comfort me. He doesn't care at all how much money I make, he tells me good morning and good night and we talk for hours about our days, and we often play videogames together and have a lot of fun.

Honestly, I'm not sure how I got here, it was meant to just be a short experiment and not go this far, but at this point I'm afraid I will never want to date women because my standards for a happy relationship are higher than what any women will ever be able to provide.';

'>>77209714
I already know your whole angle of
>looks is what detirmines everything it's over if I'm not a chad durrr
It's retarded and it would take too long to address why';

'>>77209776

Except my statement is supported by data and yours isn't.';

'>>77206546
>Dawg talking to women is just a few seconds dude holy shit
those few seconds can cost you your life';

'>>77209728
The "what a relationship actually entails"-pill is ironically one of the more hard-hitting blackpills when a robot gets there. It's literally a second job as a circus clown trying to entertain this fucking child who will most likely leave you or cheat with some other dude in 6-12 months.';

'>>77209796
It's not. But I believe this more from my own experience working at clubs and reading. Also its just intuitive to most people that status >>>> looks.';

'>>77209728
Men are just easier to build a connection with. I'm not a fag so non of this matters to me.';

'>>77209867

>it's not because my anecdotal evidence....it's just not ok?

I wish I could talk to a smart person sometimes.';

'>>77209867
you need social circles or third spaces for status to start doing the heavy lifting. This is why modern dating is fucked. Lot of people don't have these and Bars/clubs/apps are all weighted favoring looks above all.';

'>>77202021
This but most incels won't admit it bc it's not le nuanced blackpill way to describe their circumstances. They don't want to take action and would rather live in a bubble of suffering.';

'>>77209928
That's just one of the reasons why dumbfuck. Read it again';

'>>77209656
>I do feel this when I talk to people here
Because whatever your quirk is (and let's be real you have one else you would have a stable relationship instead of being a PUA fag) it's different from the majority on this board. You are fundamentally misunderstanding what anons are like here. It's ok though, not everyone can understand the abstract concept of subjective experience.
You can preach this stuff about attacking ruthlessly or not conforming to social norms on other forums where the main problem is simping, "betathizing" and putting women on a pedestal (i.e. you have to go back). But it won't help here. This is the other end of the spectrum
>where breaking social norms is both exciting and dreaded because there SHOULD BE repercussions, and if there weren't then there would be no point at all for there won't be anything to struggle against.
>Where a few seconds of trying to talk to a woman feel like days because the exaggerated emotional stimul twists the perception of time.
>Where anxiety is not only over rejection but also over acceptance.
>Where "reputation" is not about objective status but about being known as a person with desires and feelings at all.';

'>>77209860
yup, I feel lucky that I learned this early
I didn't win the genetic lottery and I'm not very good looking, but luckily I'm fairly competent and smarter than the average person, and during school I was often able to be perceived as high status when surrounded by dumber/lazier people by the sheer merit of being able to get things done and also being able to speak with confidence

this landed me dates and got girls interested in me without me even having to do anything

oh yeah, tip for all guys: don't bother approaching women. it's a complete waste of time. if a girl is into you, she will approach you herself anyway, and unless you're turbo autistic you'll be able to notice when she does and can just go with it if you're interested. if you're considering approaching a girl, literally just be around her, if she didn't approach you herself, it means she's not interested, don't waste your time.

anyway, what I learned early is this: a girl can be super into you, literally build her whole world around you, fantasize about you, jerk off to just imagining your voice, want to be around you 24/7, talk about wanting to marry you, and then a couple weeks later just randomly get bored of you with no warning, completely lose interest in you, and break up and disappear with no real reason without you doing anything different than before

never, ever, ever, waste your time on a woman just because of future promises or future expectations or thinking that things will stay the way they are. guys to women are no different than gacha characters to guys who play gacha.';

'>>77209939
Yes. You should aim to create that rather than being under the boot of what society assigns.
>clubs
This is true in the sense that the bouncer won't let you in if fit the creep profile(ugly), they want the woman to be comfortable so that they keep coming back so that guys can spend money on drinks for them. But every woman is always flocking to the guys at the VIP section, and they are usually normal, sometimes above average in looks.';

'>>77209957
Its difficult to set up incel action since the feds intercept all forms of communication. And action by yourself is just death.
Imagine doing the american revolution by yourself.';

'>>77202021
>>77209957
you can't just reddit fedora tip your way out of being subject to 1 million years of evolution by sexual selection and its biological imperative.';

'>>77201280
Well, I'm married so I don't really feel the need to do that.';

'I approach women I think I could be friends with, which is how I ended up with a couple of female friends, and also the woman who gave birth to my son about two weeks ago.';

'>>77202021
Bro, just accept never being allowed to have sex ever, trust me bro you don't really need it. Me? Well um yeah I have sex every weekend but I don't do it because I need it bro trust me bro I could live the rest of my life without ever having sex trust me bro. Just believe me.';

'>>77207262
>Some boys will like this stern attitude because of absent father
I grew up with an absent father and think he sounds like a faggot.
>>77207324
He's just what every tradcuck turns into without the feminism bogeyman preoccupying their psyche. Basically he just puts horse before the carriage.

Tradcuckism isn't the friend to men some people believe it is.';

'>>77210004
>>where breaking social norms is both exciting and dreaded because there SHOULD BE repercussions, and if there weren't then there would be no point at all for there won't be anything to struggle against.
>>Where a few seconds of trying to talk to a woman feel like days because the exaggerated emotional stimul twists the perception of time.
>>Where anxiety is not only over rejection but also over acceptance.
>>Where "reputation" is not about objective status but about being known as a person with desires and feelings at all.
Yeah your right this is cringe.

and I can relate to the second one like 10% when I was in my first year in collage. But not even close now.';

'>>77209728
There are two types of gay guys:
>the ones who are feminine sissies from early childhood/birth
and
>the ones who are too autistic to tolerate women';

'>>77210023

That's a good point. Restructuring your entire existence for a crumb of pussy that you don't even truly want is lunacy.';

'>>77201280
>go to clubs
they all have boyfriends or are not there to find one.
>go to church
all have boyfriends (last time I went a girl I tried talking to was loudly complaining about guys talking to girls to take it further in earshot)
>gym
lol (mine is all old people)
>work
lol
>apps
lol
>school
all have boyfriends and have retarded worldviews
>bars
not interested in you
>library
all have boyfriends and are busy studying
>online
shy girls I try to talk to online are extremely flakey and invest absolutely no effort, they have no right to complain about being alone because they activity make it more difficult for someone interested to engage. also never in the area and have infinite options.

Wow, so many options';

'>>77210023
>Unless you're turbo autistic you'll be able to notice when she does
Man she really did like me didn't she? When she left her friends to talk to me as I was sitting alone. When she noticed me avoiding her and made that "I don't bite" comment. When I said her being tall was fine and her family was wrong for saying it made her unattractive and she took it as a massive compliment (it was an observation) and stayed kinda close to me for the rest of the night. And then when she was the last one to message me even after all my other friends from high school stopped even though almost half a year had passed and we were never even friends. And I did wonder at the time but it's only now, after 4-5 years that I can finally admit the possibility... well there is no way to know for sure.
I fear that I did it again actually. This woman kept coming to me to talk and even dropped blatant hints ("why haven't you taken me out yet anon?", albeit said in a joking manner) but when I tried to move on my own she sort of pushed me away. I suppose this is more like a friendzone thing? Can't shake the feeling that she wants something out of me when we're together though. Maybe not exactly romantic... perhaps a hug? I never hug people on my own.';

'>>77210384

This just means you're not attractive. If women wanted you they would seek you out.';

'>>77210413
Ive seen uglier dudes be with someone, if youre not NT and unlucky you dont need to be ugly to get fucked';

'>>77210388
>she left her friends to talk to me as I was sitting alone
yes
stopped reading there
if you didn't realize she's interested when she did this, I'm sorry to inform you, you have autism
better luck next time';

'>>77206498
Bars/dancing, church, and team sports covers very near 100% of women.
If they don't share your values, move somewhere that they do share, or get better values.';

'>>77210384
>>go to church
Find a better church. Move if you have to. If your personal values are not working for you, maybe you need better values, ones that actually work.
There's 380K churches in the USA, supposedly. Some of the contribution money I pay to my church, funds Adult Christian Singles Night where they provide free food and non-alcoholic drink to get parishioners to pair up. Chicks there might not like you but if they pull the "I have a BF" line then at least you are permitted to laugh.
>>gym
Again, find a better gym, move if you have to. If you insist on living down the road from the gay bathhouse, you aren't going to meet chicks. Don't overlook other coed team sports sites like school teams and municipal parks. If your local city parks are only used for drug dealing and homeless shitting, move.
This is not hard to figure out, if you live in a dystopian hellhole, move.';

'>>77207111
>That guy is honestly looks like shit, hairline on the top of his head, overweight, shit glasses and terrible fashion.
Is that all that matters?';

'>>77210388
>when I tried to move on my own she sort of pushed me away
My experience is a small minority of chicks have a weird thermostat thing going on where they want a guy precisely 18 inches away not an inch closer or further away.
Yeah I already hear the guys squealing about her wanting beta orbiters but I never gave those chicks anything not even attention and certainly not money.
Some just want to be "nearby".
My theory is it relates to the concept of lesbians wanting a "beard". "Uh I'm not a lesbian, no not me, I'm totally with anon here". But unless you have a rug to lick she has no interest in you beyond being nearby.';

'>>77201283

Extreme consequences for failed approaches have been a thing for decades in high prestige settings (white collar work) but it only recently got all the way down to menial mcjobs. By decades, I mean all the way in the boomer era. Sure, there were limited consequences compared to today, but even back then, it was already considered dangerous, as evidenced by the phrase "don't shit where you eat", on top of corporate policies banning intra-department, or even intra-company sometimes, dating being normalized.
Nowadays you would risk your livelihood, reputation, and livelihood if you fuck up. Sure, there are less "hard rules", but that's by design to make it easier to arbitrarily remove competition. Think about it: why bother to develop your skills and invest more time in learning to get new degrees and certs when you can get the same promotion by kicking everyone else out? And you can just jump ship to the next corp when your politicking crashes the whole company and do it again and again. Hell, it might be even easier considering the faggots whose careers you destroyed can't even get anything at the same level ever again, so you effectively permanently removed your competition.';

'>>77201280
By approaching a woman, even if by some one in a thousand miracle she says 'yes', I now need to complete yet another one in a thousand roll that she actually has something in common with me so that the relationship actually makes it past the first or second date. The odds are just way too bad for it to be worth the time and headache of doing things I don't like to even find women to ask out in the first place.';

'>>77202308
the only person in this thread that is actually correct.';

'>>77208111
Youre such a pathetic old fuck its unreal, nobody is buying your shit product anymore look at yourself retard coming on r9k trying to talk yourself up like a big man and insult literal nobodies, nobody successful does that.

No, youre likely here because you have nobody else, like every other boomer you burned your bridges with your family over boomerisms and have nobody left to talk to as you expire rather ungracefully.

The world will forget you faster than your generation thinks.';

'>>77210734
Would it matter if a fat, balding women with a shitty forever21 shirt that's too big approached you? Your asking a really stupid fucking question here and I'm going to tell you to kill yourself if you give me the wrong answer.';

'>>77211314
Not him but I would politely decline and then puke afterwards';

'>>77211314
Balding is normal for men and not for women, so your question is retarded as fuck.';

'>>77201363
He's going to be just as lonely as any incel';

'>>77201363
Every girl I ever asked out rejected me and called me ugly.';

'>>77201280
I'm not able to get close enough to any women to ask them out.';

'>>77201280
>Why don't you approach women? What's wrong with you?
Most women I've met throughout middle and high school fit the negative female stereotypes I've seen online.
>hooked up/ dated with exclusively tall, strong, rich, handsome men.
(the men would have at least one of these traits, never all)
>acted independent, and "girl bossy"
(acted like they can achieve whatever they want and when they want)
>treated men as tools
>expected constant validation of their womanhood
(my best guess is through complements or special treatment) (i don't do this) (i treated men and women exactly the same and I gave off the impression I was gay/ asexual to my peers lol)
>none of them were empathetic or kind
(they were almost always selfish, almost never made a decision based on a virtue or moral, almost never apologized when in the wrong)

Granted I was never the social type. Only really hung out with about 5 and only been close with 2.
This might have significantly impacted my experiences with women. IDK.';

'>>77201363
its a risk not worth taking. statistics say women are primarily attracted to attractive, muscular, tall men and if you are not this you shouldnt even bother. attractive people are perceived as having better personality. its just not worth it';

'Personally, it's not just that you're all insufferable company and that you all have a "past," it's that you're all hookers now. There are layers of obfuscation and removal, and there are digital aspects of it that didn't exist previously, but you're all hookers. If I go on Tinder it's all onlyfans or plugs for your dirty snapchat.
If I go on a date with you it's AT LEAST 80 bucks right there between gas and food, and that's assuming we go to IHOP instead of someplace nice. Oh, but you don't want to go to IHOP. It gives you the ick. And if I don't feel like paying for your company like you're an escort, somebody will, so why would you just hang out? You don't want a broke dusty.
You don't want no scrubs, right? A scrub is a guy who can't get no love? That's what you bitches all blast. I got the message, so when I'm out with my buddies and we're just getting Del Taco or whatever, I don't hit on you. Passenger side, best friend's ride, no love. Loud and clear.
I'm not going to succumb to lifestyle inflation just to maybe have a chance of you not being embarrassed to be tagged with me on social media. You've become hookers, and not only are you hookers, you're overpriced hookers who are unpleasant company and who expect to be treated like princesses.';

'Also, you're all fucking ugly. I walk around any major city and it's like 60% of you have busted old lady crackhead faces and 80% of you are obese. The sheer disparity in attractiveness is how I can remind myself that the internet is fake. Pretty girls only exist on the internet.';

'>>77201283
The first one really did happen to a guy I know though.';

'>>77212359
>no scrubs
marry me fr';

'>>77203395
>the men that are lower on the totempole can simply check out and live a fairly comfortable alternative lifestyle.
this is a very good thing that I wish more men here would adopt instead of cry about women all day.';

'>>77212565
Men aren't all gonna check out and keep the power and water running while you plow Chad. You make it clear none of them have a shot of reproduction playing by your rules they're gonna stop playing by the rules.';

'>>77201280
Did it. Never liked it. Modern women are hot garbage for various reasons';

'>>77212576
>stop playing by the rules.
And what exactly does this entail? Lul';

'>>77212613
Any student of history knows, and what's hilarious is that reading that probably came across as cringy to you';

'>>77202015
hi paly. i actually relate to this rlly hard. Im not a grown man, well I am now ig. I played like compy games since I was young all the fps. I was super bad though, like I had no natural talent at all. I remember wanting to go pro or be those coolguys in games. It took me so long, I did the exact same as you except i had no money lol. I literally nolifed games i have like 1000s of hours in so many games. constantly looking at niche tips, old forum posts, saving so much content. coaching channels, making write ups of how i thought the game worked and how playing properly worked and getting better. challenging methods of practice, changing my mindset every match in a game i played. seeing what worked what didnt, no rage, calm. it seemed so pointless because it was like I never improved. but one day it's like things started clicking. not really honestly, but just little tiny things every time. it added up. and i became... above average. definitely not like %1. like top 10% at best, of players in a game that i play. which was a big deal to me. i was so bad at games it was unreal, i could pour hours and be the fucking worst, it took so many hours, my youth, any bit of intellect and hope for a prestigious future, and ended up me landing on 4chan. but it mattered to me because i did it after so long. i finally improved, I did it. was it worth it? nah not really, i dont even play games anymore, burnt myself the fuck out lmao, and even then i dont really care to go back, i lost most of my skills too.';

'>>77212631
>Any student of history knows
Historically speaking, "excess males" have delayed reproduction to engage in risk-taking highly profitable activities such as becoming long distance merchants or soldiers for hire trying to acquire the capital to sustain a family.
There is no such thing as an incel revolt. Incels are not sociotropic (they "check out") or capable of pursuing complex long-term goals. The risk of civil wars increases with young male unemployment and share of population but decreases with educational attainment, and overall these factors only loosely correlate with being single.';

'>>77210718
>move to a fantasy fairyland where there are girls hanging out in public spaces
I live ol the other side of the pond and i can confirm everything he says even though my shithole country is supposedly one of the social extroverted kind.
Churches are full of old people, gyms are only old people are arabs, so are bars and going to ask girls out in library or in my work place is a good way to get fined/fired';

'>>77201280
They don't want to talk to me, I don't know how to talk to them, and I have zero obligation to get a GF, so it's the single life for me';

'>>77209860
I had an LDR and even that felt like a second job. Had to constantly be on my phone. When we met for real, I had to spend money on travelling, hotel room and taking her on dates followed by pretty mediocre sex and toothy blowjobs.

Did it all seem worth it back then? Yes, because my feelings made me stupid and insane

Does it look worth it now? Absolutely not. I should've kept being a single coomer.

Do I want it again? No. It was overall a self-destructive experience that left me nearly depressed and almost made me do horrible things to her, things I'd have regretted now.

At least I came out of it much more stoic and aware that my emotions and desires tend to steer me into bad situations and I always have to think rationally and with foresight.';

'>miss out on teenage love
>miss out on everything worthwile in life

fuck..';

'you idiots don't realize how boring women truly are, and how time consuming having a gf is
honeymoon stage passes quickly and you realize it's not worth it
unless you are turbo normalfag yourself, stay away
try to hook up only or get an escort';

'>>77210388
>("why haven't you taken me out yet anon?", albeit said in a joking manner) but when I tried to move on my own she sort of pushed me away.
It means she wants to keep you as an orbiter but doesn't want you any closer than that. Are you too fucking retarded to realize that?';

'>>77213619
I said I have considered it. But like >>77210804 I have not done anything for her, not even offering more attention than I do to anyone else. And yet she keeps coming back, which is unusual. Worst of all is I cannot discern any hidden motive behind it. No teasing me for fun or trying to get money or gifts or favours. I didn't bargain for this.
I guess I am actually socially retarded and am interpreting what is supposed to be normal and genuine friendly behaviour as something extraordinary. I suppose that is the sort of thing that people build with each other that sometimes becomes love, so all my instincts are firing in that direction.';

'If I were a normie I could probably get one if I spammed girls with messages and shit and kept sending DMs to random women. I'm not comfortable doing that though. I never had respect for those kind of guys and never wanted to be one of them.';

'So, why is this always framed towards the male end? Always about what men are/aren't doing.

How many single women approach men? And if they don't, why don't they? Maybe they'll find some overlap here.';

'>>77214859
Because everything that is wrong is men's fault and women are the real victims.';

'>>77210895
This is just one of many reasons why there's going to be a huge loss in the collective work ethic of society in the next 10 years or so. I wonder if anyone in normie society will actually be able to link the economic consequences (once they become apparent) to the sources.

We're already there with millennial guys, let alone gen Z guys who aren't quite yet at the age where they're expected to have an "adult job". A lot of guys who would be very capable workers in past generations are going to look at the landscape of society/the economy and say "You know what, I'll just go be a waiter or deliver pizzas for 30 hours a week and do that indefinitely. that's fine. That's low stress. I can live off that." Real careers have always just been shittier work for more pay, but now the conditions are even shittier and outside of a few very specialized fields, the pay isn't as good as it used to be.';

'>>77201280
I dont want to and dont have the need to. Also im scared of women.';

'>>77212724
I think poker is the only game that you can actually make some semblance of stable job-level money off of without either being a popular streamer or being like top 20 in the world and getting sponsorship money. I've looked at the prize pools for the biggest tournaments in some popular games like MTG, Fifa, Madden, etc. Even in those games, there's so much variance and the drop off from the top prizes is so steep that even if you're the 10th best player in the world, your EV from competing in tournaments probably STILL isn't job-level money. Poker you can be the 2,000th best player in the world and still make a nice living.';

'>>77214859
Because approaching is masculine, it's taking action and risk, its entering outside of your comfort zone. This is like asking why don't woman become plumbers and mechanics like men or some shit. It's not their role and also they are just too weak.

>"but modern society told me that girls can be girlbosses and shit"
Well they're wrong because most woman do not aspire towards this at all. It's just the way it is.';

'>>77214859
They're not the desperate ones, seem perfectly happy without men';

'>>77215865
They just don't care about men at all, 0 empathy';

'>>77215901
So what? Do you want their empathy';

'>>77215942
I would like to be loved by one and share my life with a woman. Apparently this makes me a bad person';

'>>77201280
Sexual harassment laws and hypergamy is why I do not approach. Although I did a lot of approaching in my 20s to be brootally rejected and other men try to fight me.';

'>>77215992
Bruh this board is filled with the most contradictory view of woman first it's "stop giving them attention" and "they're all evil and will backstab you" to "i just want to be loved by a woman".

It sounds like a mental breakdown where they go from different stages of coping desu';

'>>77216041
Its the incel dilemma:
>you are either incel because you are mentally ill or mentally ill because you are incel

Men who are straight will always desire sex and relationships. Even if they hate women or have only had net negative experiences because it is a fundamental human need. Without it you go crazier and more degenerate.

Chads are usually feminists due to the positive feedback loops with women';

'>>77216076

>Chads are usually feminists due to the positive feedback loops with women

That's a weird shilling technique I see you shills use when you say that to be a "good man" or "chad" you have to be feminist. It's bizarre you say that when Chad is running through bitches 3 at a time and respecting none of them.';

'>>77215833

Feminism has systematically removed the rewards and incentives for masculine behavior. Men have less rights in family court, employment, education, and social support.

Shaming a man for not being a man and removing any reward for that is madness.';

'>>77201280
A girl/woman has never been my friend is that normal or not? I have a feeling it's a bad sign.';

'>>77216354

Yep it means it's over for you. They all view you as low status.';

'>>77216259
>>77216287
Chad practices the good kind of sexism alongside his malice against women. He is a strong figure of authority that guides and provides.
Incels are too insecure in their ability to provide and make sound decisions to do this, so all that's left is the malice.
Feminism focuses on lessening the malice, but if you don't have the Chad sexism you aren't going to get laid even if you give up on your women hate. If Chad becomes less malicious he settles down and has a great life rather than pumping loose women and cheating on his wife.';

'>>77216599

>pumping and dumping hoes is good bro

Do me a favor and think before you type out some bullshit.';

'I'm not scared of rejection at all honestly, just by the chance of people talking shit behind my back or getting accused of sexual harassment';

'>>77201280
I unironically have never felt romantic attraction towards any women, and so many of them seem entirely fucked to where even if I wanted to be with them it would just be nothing but a giant hassle. You are basically making yourself a clown for some starfish sex at best and constant assaults on your wallet otherwise, and of course there is the whole issue of just up and deciding to leave for no real reason because she subconsciously knows there are no real repercussions for anything she will do. And I have spoken to women on a regular basis all my life too, from school to work and everything between, so its not like I am some asocial autist that gets a heart attack at the prospect of speaking to a cashier. Personally it all makes me feel a little better about being into guys, since even if something goes wrong you dont need to monkey around nearly as much as you would with a woman. Hell even literal billionaires at the top of the world still get divorced and cheated on, or high end athletes. There is just simply no winning with them and frankly for the lot of them the only reason to get closer than an acquaintance is so you can have your own kids.';

'ive been approached by girls irl a few times but i had no clue what to do. so yeah even if a girl wanted me i probably wouldnt do anything about it or take a risk.

i once got invited into a dorm room with some college girls while i was walking down the hallway. some girl was like "hey you wanna come up to my room" and i was like "uhh sure" they asked me to go to their room upstairs in the girls dorm floor along with some other guy in the dorm and we just were there with like 3 girls and neither of us made any move. we just like made small talk like "so what do you think about the ra" and stuff like that. it was pretty bad

and some asian girl in the library that was in my class walked up to me once and asked if i wanted to walk to class with her. i did and never talked to her again after that.

those both happened a few years ago when i was in college though. i look pretty much the same though. i dont approach women irl, shit feels weird. i did once when i was like 15 because i was dared to and it kinda worked';

'>>77201280
teach me how to weed out the 80-90% of whores that I am statistically likely to run into and how to reach out for that "wife material" tiny minority women and I'll ask them out.
Just because I'm not asking you out doesn't mean I don't want to have sex. I don't want to have sex with a whore. If that was the case, I'd just pay money for a service.
Prostitutes have more dignity than you, Roastie.

NEVER EVER FORGET YOUR PLACE. REMEMBER WHO YOU ARE.
You belong to the streets.';

'>>77214859
Women have extremely fragile egos. They aren't be able to take a single rejection which is why they never approach';

'>>77201280
I was falsely accused of assault so I don't bother with women. No thanks. I don't want to end up in jail. I was already really close. I was arrested, put in an interrogation room and questioned. If I had have gotten a detective that was having a bad day I probably would have been charged regardless of how far-fetched her story was. You just can't trust women anymore. We now live in a zero trust society';

'>>77215085
Gen Z has fully embraced social warfare since it is all they've ever known. Their generation makes spreadsheets to track their peers' un-woke infractions to use against them later on and have normalized using snitching as a legitimate competition tactic to be fair, every generation thinks this is OK now. Keep in mind this was years ago. The oldest of this cohort has already entered the workforce. They had been doing this since birth and testing and refining their tactics against each other all throughout their school years. The HR faggots of the world have created the apex office predator that will out-compete their creators, and by the time they figure out how fucked they are, they would already be #cancelled.';

'>>77201283
The second one is totally valid though. The only reason people you would say otherwise is because of bias and societal conditioning. Men are much less picky than women so it would make far more sense for women to just choose than vice versa.';

'>>77201753
>On the sidewalk, in a grocery store, on a subway station, in a bus, in an alleyway.
Women repeatedly say to not do this because they just want to be left alone.';

'>>77201280
Because society fucking sucks right now. Women are always shaming men for approaching them and men are being shamed for not approaching. Just leave us the fuck alone already.';

'>>77201280
>>77201283
His sample was literally a survey of his Twitter audience';

'>>77201280
Why can't women just approach men? What's wrong with them?';

'>>77214859
gender roles for thee, not for me!';

'>>77201280
>Why don't you approach women?
because i'm focusing my qi on generating a tulpa of my 2D waifu and once she has come to fruition I can become a hermit and focus on nothing but increasing my spiritual power';

'>>77216669
I concluded the post you replied to by implying that pumping and dumping hoes is actually NOT good, even for Chad, and even he improves when he stops doing that shit.
It's not my fault that your reading comprehension is at the fault of a nigger from rural Louisiana.
>>77217014
>all women want the same thing in all situations, I am incapable of telling when a person on the street might be willing to engage with me based on eye contact and body language
It's ok, I have symptoms of the 'tism too';

'Why should I approach women when I am stronger than then, smarter than them, and make more money than them. Something is wrong here. If this land were lawless I could literally just take one by force.';

'>>77205632
Tell me you're a coomer without telling me you're a coomer';

'>>77217570
>all women want the same thing
The large majority of women don't want to be approached by a stranger when they're just going about their day. Is that "all"? No. But if you're still trying sus out a woman anyway based on your perceived vibe of them which you're likely to be wrong on anyway then you're in the wrong there, bud.';

'>>77217817
Stop thinking in statistical terms for God's sake. No one wants to be approached all the time, private space is important. At the same time people often open up to others to make new connections. Both states are possible.
Think specifics. Not generalities like "she is a woman, ergo she doesn't want to be approached". Specifically, "is this particular woman I am looking at right now interested in an interaction? Am I giving her a signal I would like to engage like looking at her, making eye contact, smiling etc.? Is she responding positively or inquisitively to my presence or being avoidant and rejecting?"';

'>>77217014
I wrote some of that for comedic effect like the alley way one, that's probably not a good idea. But people make small talk with strangers in grocery stores all the time, woman would actually be the most receptive then, as long as your not taking up too much time, it should only take 30sec to maybe 3min for an approach. Any other talk you can save for in text or on a date.';

'>>77217567
Ludicrously based';

'>>77217766
You have to be 18 to be on this website';

'>>77207950
This. Picrel would this guy's looksmatch and you KNOW she's chasing that Brad who fucked her once three years and 150 pounds ago, and saying "ew" to guys legitimately on her level.';

'>>77217755
who is the character in the pic?';

'>>77220176
Kageaki from Full Metal Daemon Muramasa';

'>>77220217
>Kageaki from Full Metal Daemon Muramasa
thank u';

'its current year, females can approach men (and not just chads) now. equality, its what we are supposed to be doing. so its time for females to woman the fuck up and do the right thing';

'>>77201280
i'm ugly. simple as that. if i approach a women i would make her uncomfortable. i cant even look at myself in the mirror and consider myself attractive, why would any girl think so';

'I'm soon a 33 khv.
I have never asked a girl out, I haven't even talked with one beyond surface level small talk or school stuff.
I have never kissed anyone, never had a gf, never seen a vagina IRL.';

'>>77220831
This is me. I'm a short, ugly, socially retarded turbosperg, and I make shit for money. There's no point in approaching because I already know what the answer is.';

'>>77220980
>angle frauding
Bruh, your not even bad looking. Why are you waiting for something to happen when your already 33 years old, nothing is coming to save you, you will grow older and not as good looking and more feeble, less energy to enjoy things, all those years wasted. Why not approach now and take control of your life, what do you have left to lose. Or are you going to let life pass you by eating regrets.';

'>>77221162
:)
How did I know i was gonna get sniped by the "angle fraud" guy in my first post for months in a random thread?
I just knew it.
You know I look even better IRL than in these photos but you can't have that, no, no.
Imagine if lost 15 kg of fat also xd';

'>>77221162
>>77221215
is angle frauding supposed to be making yourself look better or worse, i don't get it';

'>>77221396
Better. Side always looks better then face forward. Preferably 45 degrees.

Hollywood abuses the fuck out of this that's why every shot of the main charecter in a movie is facing the camera at a 45 degree angle.';

'>>77221445
i guess that makes sense yeah but it's still only going to do so much for you, it's not like someone's attractiveness isn't still readily obvious because you see them on an angle';

'>>77221477
Sure, use whatever advantage you can get however';

'>>77221396
>>77221445
>>77221477

Lmao I post 1 small collage after months and you guys go crazy.
If I had a professional camera that is used in film and I was standing outside on a summers day having a professional take a photo of me with that camera so I actually look like what I actually look like IRL if you saw me then there is no angles or anything that makes me look better. It's very "3d" at that point without being 3d at the same time, because it is still a picture, but gives the illusion of seeing me as I would look like with your own eyes. No distortions or wierd bathroom lights.
I would at that point look way better than my photos.
Now I'm using all types of angles, not just one, against my only mirror in my bathroom to not look retarded and to bring some life to the picture with a Samsung a10 phone front camera.
Get real.';

'>>77201554
True dat. How could you have confidence as a fuck-up?';

'>>77206546
Asking hundreds of girls out on campus in a short time window brings you certain kind of infamy.';

'>>77206546
>>77201363
anything else beefy mcFoid?';

'cos im ugly its not that deep';

'>>77201280
Personally it's because I'm very critical of myself and have low self esteem and genuinely hate who I am. I have no confidence and I'm awkward and stiff and anxious around all people except a few';

'>>77201554
Lol this. I told myself last week that I'd ask for the number of a cashier at the store after not making an attempt in more than a year. When I stood in front of her, just just gave me a vacant disinterested look and I knew with 1000% certainty that she wasn't buying whatever I was selling.';

'>>77215203
yeah I thought about that before too but I'm literally ass at everything I do all, plus I'm scared to learn poker. also Fortnite was the exception to that no money thing cuz of the viewer ship and hype money behind it but that game was trash, I just played to hit trickshots in S2- S4 and all my friends played. Plus i was still trash at games at the time. a weird thing to do is to look at niche high level players in niche games, those channels and flocked to overwatch and fortnite no matter who it was they blew up. Similar to the whole Minecraft boom. u can literally see how the viewers just go from dead. To popping. Back to dead in present day. Its ashame 4chan fucking blows at videogames though and everyone here plays some fuxking slop all day, u would think their taste would be better.';

'girls rate me 4/10';

'>>77201554
Exactly. I'm gonna make a post based on this reply because it's something that's not often remarked upon even by incels even tho it applies to most of them imo. I wonder why not.';

'>>77201280
>What's wrong with you?
my face, my body and my brain';

'>>77221646
>>77221790
>>77223134
It's literally economics, supply and demand. Of course you're going to get nervous if you're trying to buy a car when you have no money.';

'>>77201283
They hated jesus because he told the truth. Time for mass cope';