'There are femcels all over the web if r9k would even look.';

'Even incel forums accidentally admit there are femcels by saying theres women they don't want to date.';

'Femcels are rejected by male fakecels.';

'Explanation of how men can't be lonely.';

'Moids are completely transactional they don't feel love, this is why there's so many femcels. Men just want to see and touch your naked body.';

'>>77240521
I don't really care to debate if they exist or not.
I still don't have a gf and am a virgin. That's the real issue for me.';

'>>77240521
Okay so OPs pic implies that you can have casual sex and STILL be a femcel? LIES. Fuck you.';

'>>77240550
this is too real extremely based thread you can put evidence in front of their eyes and they'll still continue sputtering about MUH CHAD like the little faggots they are';

'>>77240521
Who cares exactly? Not my problem';

'>>77240521
No. There is no denial. Just because a woman chooses to not have sex because she doesnt like it doesnt mean shes a femcel. The whole part of being an incel is it being INVOLUNTARY. You are not a female incel if you VOLUNTARILY choose to not have sex. A woman above 2/10 or so can effortlessly have casual sex and even a relationship with a man. That is not true for men. That is why the overwhelming majority of incels are men.';

'>>77240586
Yes, and male incels ALREADY ACCEPT THIS STANDARD for themselves. Very simple to prove: If you can buy sex with a prostitute, are you no longer an incel? If you would still be an incel, then it's not about sex, but love.';

'>>77240521
Something something cartoon horses with cutie marks on their thigh';

'>>77240521
>below average
> <4/10
Nigger, average is 5/10 so below average would be <5.

ALL women can get sex. They could be 500 pounds with burns over 50% of their body and 3 STDs. They would still get sex every day.';

'>>77240745
>ALL women can get sex.
See >>77240623';

'>>77240745
This, just fuck a black man if you dont want to pay for an e bf';

'>>77240752
>If you dont want to pay for sex it must mean you are looking for love
I want to be seen as sexually attractive by someone. Its not about love retard';

'>>77240521
I understand the "femcel" argument, but the term itself is a stupid misnomer and they should have come up with a better name instead of coopting one that doesn't make any sense.';

'>>77240770
But it's not fundamentally about the act of getting sex.';

'>>77240542
>>77240550
I just want to be the little spoon and cuddle but women want me to simulate rape and choke them instead
Women constantly want you to perform and play some archetypal role';

'>>77240521
but a below avg women can easily ensure her genetic survival by begging a chad to shag inside her for free. All she has to do is careermaxx to make sure her child is well fed & is provided with private schooling. Even a 6 or 7/10 man doesn't have this luxury because women will only fuck men way above her smv. Women literally are the undisputed winners of the game of life and men are the undisputed losers, except for chads & gigachads.
>>77240529
>incel forums admission
but we all know how reality plays out don't we fakecel. Women have a hard threshold when it comes to selecting men and men have a soft threshold becasue the competition is too darn broootal for men. We don't have cheap alternate means to reproduce either. Ovaries in cryo banks are far more expensive & far less in availability than sperm stored in cryobanks, because women don't make a lot of ovaries & the no.of female gamete donors are far lower than male gamete donors. On top of that, we men don't have uteruses either and finding a surrogate mother is another massive challenge. Even if we find one, chances are she's a scammer who'll bear her own child fathered by some other man and not u . It's beyond over for the avg man. lel';

'>>77240521
It is infinitely easier for women to find a romantic relationship than men because they have the passive role in nature and in society. They get courted by males who compete for their attention. Females then select the best male to mate. If I were born with a vagina I would already be in a loving relationship. Being a woman is living on tutorial mode.';

'>>77240521
Okay, then give me 1 femcel gf and I will love her forever!';

'>>77240521
Saged for spamming the board with retarded shit that doesn't even make sense and isn't funny.';

'>>77240855
It's about being desired. You are shifting the goalpost when even you, a mega retard by what you have written in your posts, understand this. Women will be desired regardless. Men won't. Women get validation regardless. Men don't. Women can get a relationship whenever they want. Men can't.

Stop shifting the goalpost';

'>>77240926
I think of it in the reverse was as well kind of. 20 years ago a lot of incels might of had a family with the girl down the street but now that never never happens.';

'>>77240639
What do you mean?
razzle dazzle';

'>>77240521
Do you not know what femcel is supposed to mean?';

'sauce!
I said good anime!
there's a difference!';

'>>77240521
>>77240526
>>77240529
>>77240536
>>77240542
>>77240550
do you think you are funny?, this shit ain't good trolling, you honestly look like a retard';

'>>77240542
Evo psych stupidity, sex does not cure loneliness for either gender, you think a man feels any connection to a prostitute? If you genuinely think so you are utterly retarded, a man feels as connected to a prostitute as the pixels he jacks off to. Yes, this also means the incel argument that women can have instant sex is stupid. Despite that, because women are passive and the ones to be courted not the ones courted it's still easier for them to find relationships. FACT, how you could deny it is beyond delusion, the difference between male and female imageboards tells it all, practically all the women have relationship experience while alot of guys don't.';

'>>77241133
Not the ones courting*';

'>>77241125
>this shit ain't good trolling, you honestly look like a retard
Not that whore but I hate women and see them as objects desu and sources of validation.';

'>>77241125
How is it trolling to deconstruct your radical extremist ideology?';

'What prompts someone to make threads like this? Surely there's a better use of time? Or maybe they get paid for it?';

'>>77240521
They don't. And if you think they do, they have a different issue than incels, so there's no point in comparing';

'>>77240550
i tried to love a so-called femcel. i offered her everything and never once wanted sex out of her. she wasnt pretty but i actually liked her in some ways. she ended up going for a guy who wanted to be sexual and abandoning me. anecdotal, but yeah. im not exactly an incel either';

'>>77240550
Foids only want men for their money so they're even worse. So stop bitching like the woman you are.';

'>>77240542

>1st point: men cant be lonely
Completely untrue, while yes absence of sex is a part of male loneliness it's not the whole thing. A guy could bang a hooker every day and still be lonely cause there's no emotional connection just meaningless masturbatory sex
And saying men are incapable of emotional connections is completely retarded radfem misandry bs, the only was that would be true is if you're a sociopath/ narcissist or have some other personality disorder.

>2nd point: men are biologically designed to fuck as many women as possible
Stupid point because women can and do have way more sex with way more people than the average straight guy does. While, yes it is possible for one guy to get many women pregnant this doesn't mean men are "designed" to fuck as many women as possible, humans objectively function better in monogamous relationships. While yeah some dudes are desperate online sex pests, i really don't think that represents the majority of guys besides what about women whoring themselves out on OF? That's pretty gross.
Again men are capable of bonding we do it all the time cause we're humans and that's what we do.

>3rd point: women are biologically designed to take mating seriously
Again, women can and do have way more sex with way more people than the average straight guy does. Just look at some stats, more men are virgins and women have higher body counts on average. And if a woman gets pregnant she'll just abort it so not really a good point there.';

'>>77240536
Okay, I'm right here. Where's my femcel gf?';

'>>77241164
its just discord trannies';

'>>77240526
Is this shit real? Be honest.

Im not your target audience but I genuinely didnt know this about some women.

Poor things, im an autistic shutin so I cant really do much to help them. But I hope they find nice men, or women, whatever.';

'>>77240550
Well, yeah, men are object-oriented and physical-oriented; everyone knows this. If you aren't going to give a guy pussy you are torturing him.';

'>>77240536
notice how all the people behind the door are the type that won't commit to a guy?';

'>>77241341
No, it's not even that. Sex is a normal part of a relationship and they want to villainize sex because withholding sex is how they control/abuse men.';

'I agree that being insin, i.e. involuntarily single, but being able to have sex doesn't cure loneliness (though it's obviously far worse to be insin and incel), but these women are obviously neither. Being 30 and never having a bf + being a KHHV doesn't imply being insin or anything close. If you're just not approached by men, you still will have an enormous number of men who will pursue you on apps/dating sites/quasi-dating sites.
Trans women are desired by less than 2% of men for dating, but you can still easily see that any ugly nonpassing tranny still has plenty of options for dating guys who aren't like fat neckbeards. They're far less desirable than fat ugly cis women.
There are *some* femcels, but they have to be ungodly deformed/disfigured or they have to have like dementia to be undateable. In all my time talking to "lonely" women, I've seen one (1) of these woman and she had early dementia and a terminal illness so she wouldn't make it to 40. These cases are absurdly rare and require issues vastly worse than being insin.
>>77240962
You don't fit their facial requirements.
>>77240806
It still makes no sense even if they say they can get soulless hookups but can't date.';

'Always get a good laugh when incels say they're looking for romance and not just sex
First that's not what the word means lol
Second, they never admit that the women might also be looking for that, they can have sex on demand (lol) so they can't be femcels
Last but not least, it's manchild crap, isekai anime charming princess nonsense

Femcels are the ones actually honest with their plight, they don't rage at men, they just lament their own faults and an unlucky state of the world, incels just compete to see who cries louder.';

'>>77242184
Funny
Everything you just said is untrue';

'>>77240536
okay, applications are open, I'd take any femcel GF thats younger than me (27) who'd want a serious relationship
you think anyones gonna ask for my discord?
because I promise you if someone ITT writes
>hey femcel girl here, lookin for a robot BF here's my discord...
you can bet your left nut she's gonna get a dozen friend requests no time even without proof that its actually a female and just some dude doing it for the LARP';

'>>77241318
It's obviously real, the difference is they had to reject dozens of men to get there. Hundreds if they aren't shutins.';

'>>77240550
Seeing and touching your body is just proof you care and are real.

Men just want proof.
I hate to tell you, females don't have much aside from body.
Look chad wants to use and throw you away/leave you.
What you need is a guy who will stay after using you.
But you still gotta let him see and touch you.
Sight and touch is how relationships work.
Don't have relationships if you don't want that.
But then females complain about being lonely.
And let's be honest a female saying things aside from where and when to meet her, get phone # or showing timestamp pics, doesn't matter.

You are wasting time.
It's like going to a restaurant and not getting food.
Don't complain about customers if you wont give food.';

'>>77240521
This is a fair assessment, casual sex is very harmful and not participating in it is actually a +.
I actually find women who are not considered conventionally attractive weirdly attractive. (Although this precludes obesity) big glasses, freckles, and small breasts are all ok with me.';

'>>77240745
average is 5.5.
think about it. assuming no 0:
1,2,3,4
10,9,8,7
leaves us with 5 and 6 as our middle numbers.
5.5.';

'>>77242414
You can be a 0, it would just be some horrible disfigured person.';

'My only problem with femcels is that they're using the wrong terminology. cel = celibate. Redefining it to be "desired" or relationship or love is stupid and factually wrong.
>but men can just see a whore!!
It's basically illegal everywhere, so no they can't. You're not going to get most men to get over their anxiety to risk breaking the law like that.';

'>>77242688
zeros don't exist in such a scale, you have a appearance, that has some value conceivably to someone. someone into gore or horror or something.
Historically it's a 1-10 scale, not a 0-10 scale.';

'>>77240521
Are you going to finally admit that incel ideology ALSO revolves around lack of relationships, rather than lack of sex?';

'>>77242734
That would be like saying a 10 doesn't exist because it would be perfection, which doesn't exist in reality. Someone can believe another is perfect, just like someone can believe another is an abomination that has no value.';

'>>77241272
I'm still waiting for any ""femcels"" to step forward, surprise surprise.';

'>>77240521
Bumping, very good thread. You got moids seething saying that we can get sex whenever, as if that meant something. As if that was flattering, as if there weren't guys who literally enjoy sticking their dick in animals, kids, and burgers. I'll never be able to settle, or form a family
I feel the girl saying she has PCOS, being hairy and masculine makes you so unlovable as a woman. I wish all of you the best, girls';

'Men value cheap hookups and casual sex more than women do. Women know they can easily get hookups with some dipshit fuckboy, but it doesn't fulfill them, while for men casual sex does.';

'>>77242955
and therein lies the problem

the incel wont sympathize with the femcel because they will see the femcel having no strings attached casual sex with these tinder assholes, but deny sex with them. so they will think "if sex doesnt matter to you, why not have sex with me? you must hate me/i must be ugly/whatever (they take rejection as a personal slight)"';

'>>77242320
Well what are your standards? Am I just gonna be a stepping stone for you to achieve a prettier girl?';

'>>77240521
>Being a "female involuntary celibate" is possible without being celibate
What?';

'>>77240550
>I FUCKING HATE MOIDS SO MUCH
>KILL ALL MEN
>ALL MEN ARE REPSONSIBLR FOR ALL TEH CRUELITES IN DA WORLD WE HATE EM
>goes to a male dominated space and steals their terminology for male attention
i honestly hate women so fucking much they will do anything but be funny or useful';

'>>77240608
Women are very selective. You could have your loving man but your programming is maladaptive in an age of opulence.';

'>>77240521
They don't exist. Femcels are victims of their own ego and retardedly high standards. If they were real with themselves and sought out guys they liked they'd actually have relationships';

'>>77243036
Nta but ew why do you think it's for male attention? I post everything for female attention, cc is just slower :/';

'>>77240521
incel is short of involuntary celibate. Celibate meaning a person that does not have sex. Involuntary meaning they are not celibate by choice.

Femcel is a combination of the words female and celibate. Meaning they are female but celibate. This does not include "involuntary" celibacy. and in know way implies women are involuntarily celibate.

Femcels are all volcels. Vol meaning volantary, and cel being short for celibate.
Your welcome for the free English lesson.

men can pay for meaningless sex
and women can meet up on tinder and have meaningless sex for free
There is obviously still a hugely difference between the two dynamics and anyone that tries to suggest an incel and femcel are anything alike are probably borderline retarded.';

'>>77243102
then go on female based forums and stahp beig an annoyig whore here then COMPLAIN when men do the exact same thing to ur spaces
be da change u want to see in the world ALSO ur probably fat and ugly and sad and u think all men are sexpests cuz u intentionally go to places that attract sexpests sonur world view is screwed';

'>>77243036
Why are you such a massive piece of shit?';

'>>77244438
i believe in a world of equality, and if i found myself going on a female centric community to steal their jokes and sayings and then started shitting on them i would honestly think im kind of pathetic you knwo? whats makes this, what you guys do all the time NOT pathetic';

'>>77240550
>completely transactional
>only care about what a man will provide
Ironic, isn't it you greedy cunt';

'>>77242943
>we can get sex whenever, as if that meant something
It means you are desired. Attraction and desire is the crux of inceldom as we cannot get that. Men want you, women don't want us.';

'i don't care if femcels are real or not
just stay away from incel spaces like r9k
you don't belong here';

'>>77241251
i fell in love with your facts, anon';

'Daily reminder that they lockdown femcel forums due to men going there trying to get dates. We are just so far past the point of argument.';

'Femcels have always been real and the definition has always been female volcel';

'>>77242943
>I'll never be able to settle, or form a family
abloo abloo I can't find a chad to settle down with after riding the cock carousel shut the fuck up dumb woman';

'>>77247272

Correct. Women are only ever single because they think they are entitled to more than their options. Everything else is just attention whoring.';

'Females can never be involuntarily celibate, when you have landwhales and old hags getting laid, disabled and mentally ill women getting laid, disfigured and amputees getting laid.
Lack of long term relationships doesn't make you celibate, lack of sex does, and as long as the least desireable of women can get laid, femcels by definition cannot exist.';

'femcel definition was the original definition of the problem before redpill faggots showed up. Of course it's about love and not being seen as equal, getting touched by prostitute or scamchad doesn't mean shit. IDK why retards in this threads are fighting just to prove OP correct.';

'>admits they are volcels but at the same time pretends its the same thing
bitch if they want to have sex with you but not a relationship, its your personality
>abusive relationship
thats because of the men you pick, you can have many, but those are the ones you chose';

'>>77248473
do you coom to a pornstar with the intention to ever get into a relationship?
>the men you pick
women are not lie detectors, is it hard to believe a lot of men will say anything thinking with their dick to fuck and leave when done with it?';

'>>77240521
>>77240526
>>77240529
>>77240536
>>77240542
>>77240550
Poor autistic femcels';

'>>77248509
>do you coom to a pornstar with the intention to ever get into a relationship
what
shouldnt this rhetorical question support my point?
if lots of men want to have casual sex with you but not a relationship, its not because of looks. some just dont want a relationship in the first place and some may be driven away by your personality. so if you cant get a relationship while other women can, its either your personality or your filters. or your social circle as some sort of pre-filter';

'>>77240526
Does anyone find weird the emphasis in "romantic relationship"? like some way of saying
>yes I fucked around but I am a femcel because those weren't romantic';

'>>77240536
There is nothing in life that would bring me more joy than sitting on an autistic femcel's bed and listening to her give me lectures on her sanrio merch and squishmallows. My only standards for physical appearance are that she not be too fat to function normally and that she be at least open to the idea of personal hygiene if she isn't doing it already.';

'>>77240521
>>77240623

Femcels, according to their own definition= Women who are too ugly or retarded to get chad to commit to them. EVEN FUCKING FEMCELS WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUE INCELS! THEN THEY BITCH AND MOAN BECAUSE WE DONT SAVE THEM FROM THEIR PET NIGGERS WHEN THEY ATTACK! FUCK YOU BITCH IM GONNA SIT HERE AND WATCH YOU GET ROBBED, HOLD UP WHERES MY POPCORN! AI WAIFU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS WHORE GETTING HER DESERVED COMEUPPANCE!';

'>>77248867
Are u attracted to men ,anon?';

'>>77248867
This retard fucks his toaster';

'>>77248967
>>77248999

roasties getting fucking TOASTY now that they've been properly identified. Go fuck yourself whores! When AI and robotics make robowaifus real you're fucking DONE your market value will be ZERO and even 3s, 2s, and 1s wont waste their time PISSING ON YOU IF YOU WERE ON FIRE because their PERFECT ROBOWAIFUS will be treating them like KINGS.

fucking die already femwhores, you don't even deserve LIFE.';

'>>77240529
>Even incel forums accidentally admit there are femcels
No, they're just applying the same logic women do in mate selection';

'>>77240521
You know what else can prevent you from getting into a romantic relationship, especially if you can get sex readily? Being an unlikeable cunt.
Femcels may exist but it's entirely self inflicted and they deserve to be lonely.';

'>>77249147
It's always self-inflicted, duh. Key point is if you're trying to get better. I remain hopeful';

'>>77240521
no, I won't. incels dont exist either. someone is out there who will love you no matter who you are';

'>>77240526
>only two women mention they haven't had sex.
>Everyone talking about kissing and relationships but not sex
>entire comment section of women who sucked chad's dick and got railed by him.

The blackpill has never been more real and undefeated.';

'>>77249360
Pretty sure being kissless is lower than being a mere virgin, anon. hell having had sex and still being kissless is worse, like wtf';

'>>77240752
>>77240623
Yeah but the problem has a little bit more depth than that. incels also want to be sexually desired by women and want to know that they are desired by the opposite sex. A prostitute doesnt desire you sexually she is just pretending to be.

Just like a woman can pay any guy to love her or pretend to love her, so you could say that women can get a romantic relationship whenever they want.

But is that gonna change the argument of the femcels? I dont thinks so, some of these women are mental and is better to not deal with them at all.';

'i don't think a prostitute would help cure my loneliness, not that loneliness is that bad, I've spent my whole life alone up to this point and ive gotten to like myself, but i just want someone i can talk to, im tired of talking to myself or people who don't care.';

'women aren't funny
when was the last time you've seen a woman being funny
this is all that matters in the grand scheme of things';