'>>32992441

It's an international meme at this point that for a lot of guys being able to give a woman orgasms is important, hence many girls are pressured to just fake having one.

What I want to know is that do women feel any sense of pride, success or something similar in regards being able give guys an orgasm?

And I mean orgasms with a capital O; there is scale of pleasure men experience that are not linearly related to the amount to semen ejaculated - a man can shoot ropes upon ropes and only feel the same relief when sneezing a glogged nose, while it is possible for him to experience chains of overwhelming orgasms without as much as a drop leaving if he's being stimulated post-nut.';

'>>32992441
Both genders, have you ever thought about getting cosmetic surgery?';

'>>32992441
>penis is maybe 6 inches long
>penis is absolutely 5.5 inches around
>penis is legit 6 inches around at the very base

Is this a problem? I think my penis would look better if it was a bit longer. I think it’s disproportional';

'>>32992955
Yeah, for my loose skin. But it's expensive, so not sure it'd be worth it really.';

'>>32993023
If it's actually 5.5 inches around you're good.
I have a 4" circumference, so I'm fucked. No one's sticking around for me.';

'>>32993213
I’ll post a pic if I get sufficiently hard.';

'>>32993268
Not 100 percent because I already jacked it today but the girth shows better than the length at half chub';

'>>32993347
>those glands
The state of Americans
Also chode lmao';

'>>32993347
how big is that in diameter I don't know American calculations';

'>>32992955
Female, and No, never really cared too much about my appearance past basic hygiene';

'>>32992955
Not really. It's fairly expensive and it doesn't exactly make sense to go for it even in theory. There're definitely some flaws in me and I agree with, but I simply don't see the point in something like this. It's not like I had some ugly surgery scar or something along those lines.';

'>>32993657
They look normal when fully hard (eurotards obsessed with foreskin strikes again), also is longer when fully hard
>>32993730
14cm';

'>>32993883
5.5 inches in diameter???
do you mean length?';

'>>32993894
Penises aren't measured in diameter, he's probably referring to girth.';

'>>32993898
I don't know about girth, I haven't ever had sex but I have a dildo that's 5 inches in length and 1.3 inches in diameter, and that is an extremely tight fit, and I can't find somewhere to convert girth to diameter';

'>>32993908
Girth is the measurement around something. If you have a tape measure that can wrap around something, that should be able to figure it out. Or you can wrap a piece of string or whatever around it and then measure that.
For dicks, the thickest part of the shaft is what gets measured.';

'>>32993908
The circumference is 14cm';

'>>32993917
no yeah I know what girth is but I can't figure out the diameter
>>32993919
what about the diameter that's what I want to know';

'>>32993922
Like I said, nobody takes that measurement. It's just plain less accurate than girth in terms of visualizing what you're working with. I don't know mine either.';

'>>32993939
the dildo I got only had 2 measurements, diameter and length, thank you though';

'>>32993922
Calculated a 4.5cm width';

'>>32993947
That's pretty odd. Even condoms use girth. And I'm pretty sure most dildos list girth, too.';

'>>32993950
yikes that's 1.7 inches jesus, could not imagine taking that, thank you though';

'>>32992955
M
Yes.';

'>>32993347
In what world is that 6 inches long?';

'>>32993974
why are you trying to put down somebody else's body, there's no reason to do that unless you are insecure, of course you might just be doing it for no reason
personally, 6 inches would be a lot, I'd say you only need 3 inches to make a female orgasm (at least I count in that pool of however many women)';

'>>32993974
I’m not at full mast and my hand is halfway on the shaft.';

'>>32993981
That's pretty thick. I am weirded out at the measurements tho.
Also so hopefully people stop posting their dicks here.

Btw, everyone knows you need 1.7 feet of dick for her to feel it.';

'>>32993989
>my hand is halfway on the shaft
Oh. I thought that was your gut.';

'>>32994006
No, I should’ve used better lighting';

'>>32994002
no not six inches thickness, god no holy think I'd die
1.7 inches in diameter seems like a lot to me, it only takes me about 6-8 minutes to orgasm using my dildo, which is 5 inches in length (can't even fit all of it inside of me without it being painful unless I'm in doggy with it suctioned to the wall, and then I fucking am done in like 3 or 4 minutes) and 1.3 inches in width/diameter';

'>>32992441
women, is there anything an ugly man could do that would make you be willing to interact with an ugly man?


>>32992955
yes, daily';

'>>32994131
if they're nice I'd be willing to interact';

'>>32994138
how would you know if they were nice before interacting with them?';

'>>32994150
I'd just stop interacting with them if they weren't nice';

'>>32994156
okay but what would an ugly guy have to do to get that first interaction with you, before you knew anything about his personality?';

'>>32994168
come up and talk to me';

'M asking for Fs

You meet a guy from a hookup app for a one night stand. When you meet, this is the height difference.

How/what do you initially feel?

What do you initially think?';

'>>32992441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsJ-BHohXRI
>Olivia Rodrigo, the face of mainstream, female perspective music, wrote a song that's more or less the alpha widow anthem
>People will still try to gaslight men and tell them there's no truth to the red pill
Why? Is it just not wanting to give the movement the satisfaction of acknowledging they were right, all along?';

'>>32995466
Actually, come to think of it, Guts as an album is just one big concession letter to red pill ideology. I could have just as easily used "Bad Idea Right?" or "Vampire" as an example. The latter has held a special place in my heart ever since an ex sent it to me with the caption "did you date her?" in what I can only assume was intended to be a dunk, but I honestly found quite flattering.

I'm just truly curious, M and F, why do you think concepts like hypergamy and the alpha widow are openly acknowledged by the mainstream, yet so many people still get ass-shatteringly triggered when you discuss them in way that is critical or for lack of a better word, academic, and in the context of what men can do and change in themselves to work with these variables, as opposed to against them?';

'>>32995466
>>32995508
So that others can use this thread, would you please keep your BS concise and avoid spamming multiple novel length posts for every response?';

'>>32992558
Some do, but probably not in the same way. I’d compare it more to satisfaction.

>>32992955
I will not even though I probably need it.

>>32993023
All penises are ugly. Yours is probably the average amount of ugly. The size wouldn’t be a problem, though oral sex might be challenging.

>>32993347
That’s about average ugliness.

>>32993954
It’s basic geometry. You can calculate circumference from diameter and the reverse as well.

>>32994131
Not everyone likes the same things and some women might not think you are ugly.

>>32995197
This is not relevant to me.

>>32995362
Who is you?';

'>>32995553
I try to keep my posts to a paragraph or less. Why so glum, chum?

>>32992558
M, obviously, but let me just say that if they don't take pride in such a skill, they should; if a woman can get me make noises like a fight scene in an anime's original, Japanese audio, she's wife material.

>>32993023
We tend to care far more about the size of our dicks than women do, and porn has given you ye olde body dysmorphia; 6L/5.5G is a perfectly decent cock. You're actually on the larger side of average; any girl who wouldn't be happy with it likely has some complexes going on you don't wanna deal with.

>>32993213
Same to you, you have the Ryu of dicks, nothing to be ashamed of.

>>32993657
I quite enjoy having a dick that doesn't look like a sea cucumber, but you do you, comrade.

>>32992955
Kind of. I have actual dysmorphia when it comes to my chin. On a rational level, I know I have a pretty solid chin, but every time I see a CHIN I can't help but think that I'm missing the final piece of the Gaston puzzle and it makes me wanna gif related.

>>32993908
See, you two? Tight virgin pussy says your dicks are good to go.

>>32995362
I don't know that I've ever met a woman who prefers pajeets to anyone. You look good bro, but your body comp looks like you'd benefit from (dumbbells, for the sake of symmetry) incline presses, decline presses, lat raises, and the Arnold press.';

'It sure helps if I post the gif.';

'>>32992955
>have you ever thought about getting cosmetic surgery?
F
Yes, but it always looked hit or miss, regardless of surgeon. I wouldn't want to look even more fucked up.

>>32994131
>is there anything an ugly man could do that would make you be willing to interact with an ugly man?
Be a decent human being. Also be funny.

>>32995197
>How/what do you initially feel?
Luckily, I am 5'5". I don't like guys that tall. 6'4 is probably my absolute cutoff.';

'>>32995563
>All penises are ugly.
I can't believe you'd say such a thing. Mine is a work of art. Probably. I've even traced it in case the Phallological Museum requests a sample.
>It’s basic geometry. You can calculate circumference from diameter and the reverse as well.
I'm really bad at learning math, so I'd need an in-depth demonstration. A "deep dick deep dive," if you will. Purely educational.';

'>>32995709
Speaking of fragrances, M and F, do you wear any? Even if it's just a soap or deodorant you wear daily, or a go-to perfume/cologne/attar. I prefer understated scents in my shampoo and soap, but I've been wearing Phantom by Paco Rabanne for almost two years now. I like it, women complement it frequently, and it's strong enough where notes persist for hours, yet not so strong that it's overpowering. It's funny because I had a really negative first impression of it, and expected to hate it. The flacon is utterly gauche; looks like something a black person designed.';

'>>32995508
>why do you think concepts like hypergamy and the alpha widow are openly acknowledged by the mainstream, yet so many people still get ass-shatteringly triggered when you discuss them
I suspect it's for two reasons: For one, these essentialist and biological determinist notions don't sit right with a liberal egalitarian idea of man. And the other is that they typically represent a political agenda or moral accusation wrapped in scientific curiosity - and people recognise that; they're not stupid.';

'>>32995810
I'm glad you asked, because I have several thousands of dollars worth (market value) of fragrances.
>Phantom by Paco Rabanne
Overpriced and way too sweet, but I'm not a fan of a lot of Paco Rabanne fragrances since they changed the batches for 1 million and Invictus. The bottles are still some of the most beautiful on the market, though.

>>32995957
Definitely the second one. It's like saying black people commit over 50% of violent crimes. It's a real statistic, but I've never seen it mentioned when not being weaponized to justify racism.';

'>>32995957
>For one, these essentialist and biological determinist notions don't sit right with a liberal egalitarian idea of man
Objectivity and rationality make for poor bedfellows with bullshit, that's true.
>they typically represent a political agenda
I definitely agree there's a significant component of this in play, but I think another factor is that people in the western world tend to want to politicize everything and reduce every issue to binary us-vs-themisms. Also, maybe this is just me, but I believe if your politics are wrong, if you constantly find yourself at odds with the truth, you should probably change your politics.
>moral accusation
That's fair, nobody wants to feel like they're being attacked.
>people recognise that; they're not stupid
On the contrary, I think the issue might be that people are, on average, too stupid, especially when it comes to susceptibility to confirmation bias.

>>32996160
>I have several thousands of dollars worth (market value) of fragrances
Any houses or specific scents you can recommend?
>way too sweet
See, I like that. I like something that stands out and turns heads. Part of why I phased out (OG) Invictus is because it became baby's first scent; it felt like every time I'd go to a club I'd walk right into a cloud of the stuff.
>The bottles are still some of the most beautiful on the market
1 Million is a bit too... Rabanne for my tastes, but I couldn't agree more when it comes to Invictus; the bottle is a work of art. Solid atomizer, too.
>It's a real statistic
>I've never seen it mentioned when not being weaponized to justify racism
I say this with much trepidation, and the fool's hope that we can all remain civil, but... is the statistic not justification in and of itself? I ask because statistics are used to justify misandry, a form of sexism, all the time, and normies don't so much as bat an eye.';

'>>32996271
>Also, maybe this is just me, but I believe if your politics are wrong, if you constantly find yourself at odds with the truth, you should probably change your politics.
I generally believe that truth is self-manifesting and that it should be in ones interest to have a model of reality that is as close to empiric truth as possible, but sincerely believed falsehoods, that motivate collective action, can outcompete truths at short term.

>people in the western world tend to want to politicize everything and reduce every issue to binary us-vs-themisms
Sometimes things are irreconcilable us-vs-them decisions.';

'>>32996271
>Any houses or specific scents you can recommend?
I love anything Tom Ford. In the colder months, Black Orchid and Velvet Orchid are my two most signature fragrances. And most of his male fragrances toe that unisex line, but not in an emasculating way.
>Invictus is because it became baby's first scent
Honestly, that's more 1 million. It was the Dior Sauvage before Dior Sauvage. You'd smell it everywhere. But also, a lot of those blue fragrances just smell the same with very little variation. That's your Bleu de Chanel, Invictus, Versace Dylan Blue, Nautica Voyage. Beachy scents designed for mass appeal.
>the bottle is a work of art.
I'm talking about the Lady Million and XS bottles.
>I ask because statistics are used to justify misandry, a form of sexism, all the time, and normies don't so much as bat an eye.
It's even more disproportionate when talking about gender than it is race. Men commit over 80% of all violent crime. Also, things like sexual assault are omnipresent among all social and economic classes, and you're more likely to be victimized by someone of your own race. Furthermore, it's a tiny minority of black male perpetrators that account for those crime statistics. So writing off the entire race for the actions of roughly 3%. By all means, you're entitled to your prejudices and often times they can help assure your safety, but don't use them at a societal level.';

'>>32996391
>sincerely believed falsehoods, that motivate collective action, can outcompete truths at short term
Agreed. Sincere belief isn't even a requirement; I refuse to believe that a significant component of the "woke mob" isn't fully aware that their rhetoric and agenda is harmful bullshit. I believe this, because to look at the state of for example, NYC, or any city currently in the throes of the libtard end game, and stand by the beliefs that led to such conditions, requires a truly impressive degree of cognitive dissonance. Just a bunch of cowards following the path of least resistance, who will flip the moment the momentum shifts. It's always been that way.
>Sometimes things are irreconcilable us-vs-them decisions
Ain't that the truth. I don't think this applies to most issues though, so long as cool heads are given a chance to prevail.

>>32997008
>I love anything Tom Ford
My man. I was wearing Tuscan Leather yesterday, and I'm also a fan of Tobacco Vanille.
>Beachy scents designed for mass appeal
I feel like LV Pacific Chill and Chameleon by Zoologist are king when it comes to this kind of scent.
>Men commit over 80% of all violent crime
That follows, men are more suited to violence. I feel like this paints an even starker picture when you cross reference this statistic with the one about race.
>you're more likely to be victimized by someone of your own race
This is why the statistics about black people and crime interests me, and the discussion I'm interested in having isn't so much "black people are animals, just look at the statistics!" and more along the lines of "why do organizations like BLM, and indeed mainstream black culture seem so fixated on police brutality, when they're far more likely to be killed by someone in their community?" I feel like there needs to be some attention and effort directed inward before things will improve for that demographic; you can only blame your current state on the past for so long.';

'>>32997008
>you're entitled to your prejudices and often times they can help assure your safety, but don't use them at a societal level
I can get behind that, but again, only if we apply the same logic to gender. I like that you brought up how the statistics can be misleading, in the sense that it's often a minority of a given demographic skewing the numbers. For example, one in six women will be subjected to SA/rape in her lifetime, but that doesn't mean most men are rapists. It's a very small portion of men who are repeat offenders, and who are constantly refining their methods, and he's probably not waiting in the bushes. You always hear women talking about how they walk through parking lots, ready to go Wolverine with their car keys, but Brock Turner met his victim at a party the night the assault took place. One of my friends was raped by her mom's boyfriend. Another was raped by an orbiter (who she had known for years and "loved like a brother") who "got her home safe" after a bar crawl.';

'>>32992955
Male. Yeah, I hate my nose. I've been told it's fine and suits my face, but I hate my face so of course that doesn't help. Just wish I could accept myself but I feel incredibly sick when I see a picture of myself. I know I'm not deformed, I've been told I'm attractive, but I feel like there's something seriously wrong with my face. To me, I look like the little fucking cave creatures from The Descent. Hate it man, somethings feels off.';

'Ladies and Gentlemen. If you're playing video games, what were your latest occupations on that front lately and what titles you plan to dive into next?
I'm currently still playing DOOM Eternal and going through DLCs. After all, I'll switch over to WRATH: Aeon of Ruin and occasionally revisit Stardew Valley since Patch 1.6 is coming out in a day or two (depending on your time zone).';

'Women, how often do you shave your pubic hair and what type of style do you go for (hairless, trimmed, rainforest, ect.)? On a related note, what’s your preference for male pubic hair?';

'>>32998142
I'm impatiently passing time in any way possible because Dragon's Dogma 2 comes out on Friday. The original is my second favorite game, and I've been waiting for this moment for over a decade. It shall be devoured heartily.
>Stardew Valley Patch 1.6
They're still updating that game? I might need to check it out again sometime, played through it twice before.';

'>>32998321
Weekly, or directly before I expect to go swimming/on a date. I honestly prefer just not shaving there at all, but the person I'm with now prefers me hairless.';

'>>32998142
I'm wrapping up getting 100% on my BotW file before finally unwrapping TotK. Aside from that I'm playing a lot of Unicorn Overlord, Apex Legends, and Warzone.
>WRATH: Aeon of Ruin
Based. You're gonna have fun, truly the boomer-shooter the world deserves. Consider checking out Boltgun.

>>32998405
I haven't played Dragon's Dogma yet, but the sequel does look fun.
>my second favorite game
...What's the first?';

'>>32998781
>I haven't played Dragon's Dogma yet, but the sequel does look fun.
The first game is janky, but in all the right ways. Second seems to be faithful to it as far as I can tell. Can't wait.
>...What's the first?
Monster Rancher 2. PS1 game where you raise monsters and fight with them in tournaments. That franchise is pretty much dead in the water, sadly.';

'>>32998142
I've been playing a lot of Splatoon lately, story mode in 2 and regular matches in 3. Not sure what I'll play next, though. Maybe finish Xenoblade 3's DLC. Then just wait for the next Pokémon game to drop.
>>32998321
I've never had a bf so I've never needed to shave down there. I'd maybe try shaving if I got someone who asked me to, but I have sensitive skin as is, so putting a razor anywhere near my vagina sounds like a bad time. I'm already left an itchy, uncomfortable mess whenever I shave my pits, so I don't want to think of what it'll feel like to shave downstairs. Hoping I just end up with a partner who doesn't mind or even likes body hair. As for male pubic hair, I have no irl experience but I feel like I'd want him to be as hairy as possible.';

'>>32998809
You could try getting waxed. Lasts longer and, for most people, gets rid of the itchiness problem.';

'>>32998860
Waxing seems far too painful to be even remotely worth it.';

'>>32998862
To my understanding it hurts less each time you do it, because the damaged hair follicles are weaker when they regrow.';

'Femanons: tell me about your relationship with your pussy.

How do you like to refer to it? Are you happy with how it looks, or what would you change? Has how you looked changed over time? Do you like to casually play with your labia, like rolling them in your fingers or stretching them out? Do you ever smell or taste yourself? Are you proud of it - do you like showing your pussy to new partners? Are you proud of how wet you can get, how deep you can be penetrared, how tight you are, or how your pussy feels to others? Did you ever try to stretch yourself to your limit - what have you used to penetrate yourself?';

'>>32998798
>The first game is janky, but in all the right ways
Drakengard is one of my favorite series, so I get the idea.
>Monster Rancher 2
Bro, I went through so many CDs looking for the perfect monster. I hope the series makes a renaissance; Palworld proves PKMN doesn't have to be the only game in town. What about it makes it your favorite game?';

'>>32998907
>I went through so many CDs looking for the perfect monster.
A man of taste, I see.
>I hope the series makes a renaissance
It had a recent-ish game, but it was mostly a crossover heavily focused on Ultraman of all things, for some reason. Obviously didn't sell well, especially in the west which has no idea what an Ultraman is.
>What about it makes it your favorite game?
Hard to put it into words. When it comes to playing games, I highly value uniqueness. Playing in a way that few others likely have, using weird options or strategies to win. With all of its crazy monsters, and ways you can raise them, something like Monster Rancher scratches all the right itches for me.';

'>>32998948
That's fair, I know it's not much of a niche pick, but I think right now my favorite game of all time is BotW. It just so perfectly captures the concept of internal and external discovery, I adamantly believe it is a game that someone should go into completely blind to experience it as it's meant to be played. Another thing I appreciate is how in contrast to most Zelda games, which take place five minutes before midnight, so to speak, BotW is the game that takes place five minutes after midnight. Discovery, hope, duty, friendship, free will, all of these concepts were beautifully explored.';

'>>32999011
Hmm, I can't really relate there. Had fun with it for a while, but I burned out on it hard halfway through. Perishable loot really killed my desire to find treasure, and perishable weapons killed my desire to fight enemies, so exploring the world started feeling like a chore to me rather than a fun thing. I preferred older Zelda games where new places came with the promise of new enemies and gear.';

'>>32992955
Male. I've considered it because I see it brought up on 4chan a lot, and the result of my consideration was pretty much immediately "fuck no". I know I'm ugly (and bad personality and so on), but I like myself just the way I am and I don't want to change, especially for the approval of people who already don't like me.';

'>>32998405
>I'm impatiently passing time in any way possible because Dragon's Dogma 2 comes out on Friday.
Sounds like it should be a good release. Might catch up with the original through some YouTube video. Actually planned to do that, but then got distracted with other stuff.
>They're still updating that game?
Yeah. ConcernedApe got distracted from Haunted Chocolatier with this one. Besides, that's what he said in regards to updates.
>I want it to be the best it can be, It will never be perfect but I feel an urge to keep improving it.
https://twitter.com/ConcernedApe/status/1730684624706441377

>>32998781
>I'm wrapping up getting 100% on my BotW file before finally unwrapping TotK.
Neat. I often go for 100% in games myself in recent years. Although my focus is usually getting all achievements in Steam and that doesn't always requires this kind of playthrough.
Reached Perfection in Stardew Valley though. Obviously.
>Based. You're gonna have fun, truly the boomer-shooter the world deserves.
Yup. I got more than 20 hours out of Early Access version a couple of years ago, so I'll be having a blast for sure. I was waiting for this.
>Consider checking out Boltgun.
Maybe eventually. It seems alright to go through once. Want to have more balance between "taking take on my backlog" and "jumping into something new" while leaning towards the first option.
>>32998809
Not familiar with anything besides Pokémon, but even then it's just "it exists" for the most part.... Oh, I only know that apparently latest games are technical mess on Nintendo Switch to a point where it's embarrassing or something. Sounds good though.
It's curious how Nintendo seems to be kind of dominant in this discussion though.';

'>>32999022
Yeah, being afraid to use equipment you actually like is a real thing, and easily the game's biggest shortcoming. It would have been nice to have had the option to repair items, perhaps at the cost a scarce ore or something. That way, you were still encouraged to salvage and improvise, but you could take care of your swordfu, if you found one.

>>32999589
>I often go for 100% in games myself
I'm down to less than 20 korok seeds and a handful of shrines that I had to walk away from in the main quest.
>It's curious how Nintendo seems to be kind of dominant in this discussion though
Nintendo is an interesting company; as far as tech and online trends go they consistently remain about ten years behind the curve. Their consoles come with obligatory gimmicks that lose their novelty after about a week (most of the aforementioned shrines involve a motion controls puzzle I had to walk away from, lest I throw the switch through the fucking wall) and yet they still consistently produce the lion's share of the top experiences in gaming, in spite of all that.';

'>>32999589
>>32999717
>It's curious how Nintendo seems to be kind of dominant in this discussion though.
>and yet they still consistently produce the lion's share of the top experiences in gaming
I think it's mainly just that out of all gaming systems, Nintendo consoles are marketed the most as family systems. Lots of people had a Nintendo console as a kid, got attached to Nintendo titles, and continued to buy their systems as they grew older. Parents or siblings of the child who originally owned the console may play some games too and grow to love them as well. Nintendo is for kids and casuals on top of the enthusiasts, so that range gives them an iron grip on the industry imo. They gain brand loyalty while people are kids, then said kids grow up never letting go of their love for Nintendo games.
Even as an adult, I tend to prefer Nintendo's kid games, so I tend to stick with them. Nintendo has definitely gotten too complacent at the top and it shows in their consoles and games, but I don't think there's any big names that really targets the same broad audiences as Nintendo. I feel like Nintendo will always end up dominating conversations like these where you ask people of all different walks of life what games they play, as even people who aren't as serious about video games probably play Nintendo games every now and then.';

'>>32997659
>I feel like LV Pacific Chill and Chameleon by Zoologist are king when it comes to this kind of scent.
My go-to beach fragrance is Wood Sage and Sea Salt by Jo Malone. The only problem is longevity, but that's why I carry an atomizer everywhere I go.
> I feel like there needs to be some attention and effort directed inward before things will improve for that demographic
I agree, but unfortunately black lives only matter when it's a cop or non-white person taking them. And as far as interracial violence goes, it's much more common for black people to victimize white people because black people are more likely to be in white spaces than white people are in black spaces.

>>32997691
>and he's probably not waiting in the bushes
Yes, 73% of rapes are committed by someone the victim knows. But that's still 27% committed by a stranger.
>You always hear women talking about how they walk through parking lots, ready to go Wolverine with their car keys
Not all attacks turn into rape, but the threat of an attack is still present and can escalate to sexual assault or even murder.

Furthermore, the disparity is far more egregious amount gender than it is race. 99% of rapists are male, while 91% of rape victims are female. And sexual assault chances drop astronomically for boys once they hit puberty while it stays steady or even increases for women once they do.

>>32998142
Just started playing BG3 again

>>32998321
>Women, how often do you shave your pubic hair and what type of style do you go for (hairless, trimmed, rainforest, ect.)?
I wax all but a triangle on the pubis and then trim that short.
>what’s your preference for male pubic hair?
Just well maintained. No jungle and preferably not baby smooth.

>>32998860
Or laser removal. Only irritated my legs for a day or so.

>>32998862
It's not so bad for pubes.';

'>>32998877
>How do you like to refer to it?
Anything but vajayjay and hoohaa
>Are you happy with how it looks, or what would you change?
One labia is bigger than the other and that's always bothered me.
>Has how you looked changed over time?
Not since puberty.
>Do you like to casually play with your labia, like rolling them in your fingers or stretching them out?
No, it's not a scrotum.
>Do you ever smell or taste yourself?
Yes, sometimes a good scratch n' sniff. Sometimes I lick my fingers when masturbating.
>Are you proud of it - do you like showing your pussy to new partners?
Not really, I'm kind of self-conscious about it with partners.
>Are you proud of how wet you can get, how deep you can be penetrared, how tight you are, or how your pussy feels to others?
Not really. It's pretty shallow. The one guy I've been with said it's the best he ever had, but he hasn't had a lot of partners either.
>Did you ever try to stretch yourself to your limit - what have you used to penetrate yourself?
No, that sounds painful. I've used masturbatory aids and a penis but nothing else.';

'>>32999589
>Might catch up with the original through some YouTube video.
Yeah, lore might get a little confusing if you don't get a rundown. I'd do one but don't wanna spoil other people here who might be reading.
>ConcernedApe got distracted from Haunted Chocolatier
Shoot, forgot that was coming, will have to keep an eye out for that in the future too.

>>32999717
>It would have been nice to have had the option to repair items, perhaps at the cost a scarce ore or something
Absolutely, no idea why they didn't do that. It would make gathering resources more appealing too.';

'>>32992441
How should I ask a woman if they’d like to be tied up and ate out/fingered/hitachi’d? Is this a thing women even want or just me?';

'To F: have you ever had an experience where you or another woman have used a drawing or picture of a vagina or girl's butthole to shock each other.

I still occasionally see guys posting goatse or the grubhub guy with a burger lodged in his penis or just a straight up dong in a childish bit of "WAPOW, now you gotta look at that now" in the group chat, and it dawned on me that I hadn't really heard about a female equivalent; usually any encounters I've had were still pics or drawings of dudes that the guys were sharing.';

'>>32999717
>I'm down to less than 20 korok seeds and a handful of shrines
Sounds quite impressive since I think there're like hundreds of those seeds.
>Nintendo is an interesting company
They sure are. Would be great to dig up working charger for my old Game Boy Advance SP.
Also, I forgot to mention in the previous reply:
>Aside from that I'm playing a lot of Unicorn Overlord, Apex Legends, and Warzone.
Couldn't care less about Call of Duty. Not familiar with Unicorn Overlord and that might actually be not exactly my type of thing, but who knows. You probably already heard about some nasty engine or anti-cheat exploit, so mentioning that is probably pointless.
>>32999940
>Nintendo consoles are marketed the most as family systems.
It's definitely part of that. Together with them being the oldest player on the market and whatnot, as you mentioned later on.
>>32999965
>Just started playing BG3 again
Damn, I really should play Baldur's Gate 3. What really puts me on the fence are likely my tendency of going through games in chronological order and getting all achievements, which I think is quite challenging in case with BG3. Not that I'm totally against that, but to some reasonable point and not sure if Honour Mode is.
At least I got a proper copy of Planescape Torment now. Will get a few playthrough out of it and (hopefully) improve my English speech by reading out game's dialogues.
>>33000028
>Yeah, lore might get a little confusing if you don't get a rundown.
I mean more like in general. Not just the narrative, but the gameplay and such. There're a lot of videos and channels covering games in such manner.
>will have to keep an eye out for that in the future too.
That should become easier now.... Well, probably not. There's still that initial release window where some additional patches will follow through and even after that it will probably take a while for substantial Haunted Chocolatier updates to surface.';

'>>32999981
>Sometimes I lick my fingers when masturbating.
ewwwww...';

'>>33000922
What is ew about that...? Are you unwell?';

'>>33000939
You are literally talking about licking the juices off your fingers.';

'>>33001036
For one, that's not me. Two, do you think it's toxic? The hell do you think happens during cunnilingus?';

'>>32992441
I’m drunk as hell rn and here’s a pic of my soft cock and balls. I’m sorry but it’s funny to me rn';

'Where do femanons go to find guys outside dating apps?';

'Women how do i improve my dick game?';

'>>32997659
>why do organizations like BLM, and indeed mainstream black culture seem so fixated on police brutality, when they're far more likely to be killed by someone in their community?
https://www.richardhanania.com/p/america-has-black-nationalism-not';

'what % of girls would you say would be okay with very little sex (e.g. once a montth) and actually stay with their man? m4rx8yand how do you find them?';

'Men: How much sexual attraction do you experience to random women in your everyday life, like hot girls at work or school? What about average or ugly women?';

'>>33002687
Pretty much none. I don't really feel sexual attraction to people unless I'm already horny for some reason, or I know them. Maybe a little if they're wearing something revealing or form-fitting?';

'>>32999027
Unfathomably based.

>>32999940
I think that all factors in, but I also think that the primary driving factor is that Nintendo consistently produces a quality product, especially in the Switch's (a console with a gimmick that's of actual value) lifetime; BotW (and from what I've heard, TotK) are arguably peak Zelda. Odyssey is arguably peak 3D Mario. Wonder is objectively peak 2D Mario. Dread is objectively peak 2D Metroid, and in terms of characterization, undid all the damage Mother M did to Samus' character. PKMN... is the same shit I grew bored of after Diamond/Pearl, but I'm not the demographic; there are plenty of autists and children who lap that shit right on up. Smash Ultimate is a full on love letter to the fans. If a multiplat is on Switch and isn't technically demanding, I'll always go with the Switch port because of the portability gimmick.

>>33000028
>Absolutely, no idea why they didn't do that
Require specific (rare) items to be brought to a specific place, and BAM! you pad the game's length, let people have their swordfus, and get to introduce a charming blacksmith NPC. Game would have been even better.

>>33002687
Very little.
>hot girls
About... two or three times a year I'll spot a girl in the wild that's so attractive I'll drop what I'm doing and make a move.
>average or ugly
By definition, average women are everywhere, so I don't tend to have any kind of response to them. Even with above average women, I might look at one and go "oh, she's cute" but I don't give her a second thought.';

'>>33002687
Almost none to average or below average women. Once in a while, maybe every few months, I'll see a woman who really catches my eye, but honestly it's more likely that I'll be attracted by a cute/pretty face than by a hot body, so I'm not sure how sexual that attraction really is.';

'Why do I have more luck findng girls online who send me nudes without me asking than IRL???
They're typically pretty and have nice bodies. But in real life it's hard for me to find this. I could get a pretty online gf on soc after maybe a week of searching (actual female as I confirm with voice and video chat, pictures, time stamps whatever) whereas IRL whether I meet girls at work, daily life, talk to them, get their numbers, getting no replies, maybe every 6 months ill get lucky.';

'>>33002687
Too much...
Obviously there is a skew towards hotties but at this point it's pretty much any girl who is nice to me...';

'Women would you be able to take pic related? (vaginal, anal and blowjob)

My girth is 6 inches/15cm(XXL condom size)';

'>>33002687
Probably due to being terminally stay-at-home nerd and virgin, I can be hypersexual and it's totally random. Could be minding my own business and then my dick goes "STAND UP!" out of nowhere. That really bothers me at times, but I'm trying to think too much about it.
It can be subjective at times, but I can get sexual attraction to both beautiful and average women every now and then.';

'>>33003619
Less commitment, easier to ghost, and women who frequent online environs are infamously thirsty for attention and validation.';

'>>32998877

Bump';

'>>33002687
It's more about how much skin they are showing for me, even a girl who is average in the face can dress provocatively and have nice legs. I will be thinking about how smooth they are and what they would be like to touch. I also like long, flowing hair, it's really beautiful.';

'>>32992441
Q1. What's your average experience with hygiene in men? Would you say it is on par, lower, or better than most women? Any memorable experiences or examples?

And why not, the inverse can be asked for the gents here. Factors that can be considered are extrinsic (clothing, bedrooms, general enviroment), intrinsic hygiene (skin, hair, body odor and lack of), oral hygiene, etc.';

'>>32992955
I think I'd like to get the small black spots on my skin lasered off one day-- not sure what they are called. Moles? I have one on my eyelid that I'd probably like to keep. Aside from that, I wouldn't really know where to start.

Ah, and I'd like to get my teeth whitened to at least match the color of my sclera. If I had messed up teeth, I'd definitely recommend orthodontics to anybody.

>>33002687
It depends on your personal preferences but generally I don't get hot and bothered about average and ugly women. If they are cute, I might note that they are pretty cute but I won't go beyond that-- like fantasizing a life with them and whatnot.

That being said, sometimes you get incredibly aroused-- testosterone go brrt-- and';

'I'm going to go see an escort and finally have sex for the first time. What things do I need to study in advance, with regards to "how to have sex", "how to have the other person enjoy it too", and "how to make sure you're not hurting anyone while doing it"?';

'>>32992441
For women: what's this obsession with maintaining a "poker face" at all times? Is it some new weird trend to not emote at all?
>>32992955
I've though about hair transplant, eyebag removal, maybe corrective jaw surgery. Not very seriously though, don't want to volunteer to get sliced up and what if it goes wrong
>>32993883
Only looking normal when hard is pretty fucked up
>>33002687
In everyday life (like walking past on the street?) unless she's stunning or hot (in which case I will briefly think about spit shining her face with my dick before getting on with my day) I don't really notice. If I'm sitting talking to an average or ugly girl and she's actually nice/interesting to talk to attraction can be built but it's not instant.
>>33004749
I genuinely hate how pussy smells, even freshly showered. Shame as the taste is pleasant.';

'do girls like guys with homesteads';

'>>33005726
Women don't like men, period.';

'>>33005726
no we would like homesteads';

'>>33003998
Not comfortably, but yes.';

'>>33001786
Listen to your gf more.';

'>>33005810
>Not comfortably,
so it would hurt and stretch you out pretty bad?';

'>>33006237
I'd be fine with enough of a warmup.';

'>>33003998
Easy';

'Dude who's hung up on his ex here. Just wanted to give some updates
>Haven't contacted my ex in 2 months and am proud of myself for not going back and contacting her
>still upset and mad, but reminding myself to stay strong and not contact her
>going to the gym consistently still
>met up with some FtM on Saturday. We had sex, so it was my first piece of pussy I got in 4, almost 5 months
>still feel kinda shit
>talking to some other girls too, but not sure how emotionally available I am
This shit sucks. I hate being autistic so I hyperfixate and can't let things go. What the fuck do I do? I go back to thearpy next month, so I do have that going for me.';

'How do I gaslight myself into being ok with using dildos/sex toys on girls?
I've come to realize that my dick, size wise, isn't going to cut it for most women. I'm not bitter about it, it is what it is, but the idea of having to compensate for it still stings. How do I use toys without feeling like I'm cucking myself? Is this even possible, or am I just coping?
I already know how to eat a girl out and have gotten pretty good feedback, but I can tell they weren't really enjoying themselves when it came to PIV and I know oral doesn't really make up for a lack of dick.
>inb4 how big?
On a good day maybe 4,5 - 5 inches long and like 4 inches thick.';

'Femanons: would you let Venom eat you out? I imagine he can do some crazy shit with his tongue.';

'>>33002687
Very little.
I have seen a few bodies I still remember.
I mostly just think:
>oh, she's pretty...
>TITS!
Then again, I am kinda picky ig. If I don't fet the mentioned reaction, I kinda just don't care.

>>33007018
Disturbing
>>33005810
Elaborate. What's ideal?
>>33008582
Dude... stop.

>>33008691
It's ogre.
Ig hitachi would be an option?
>How do I use toys without feeling like I'm cucking myself?
Idk, talk to her.
Get her pregnant.';

'>>33004819
>going to go see an escort and finally have sex for the first time
Bro don't do that shit, bitchez hate guys who've seen prozzies, just use your hand and good hentai/imagination
You are basically sealing your incel fate if you have to pay for sex';

'>>33008781
>You are basically sealing your incel fate if you have to pay for sex
Anon... if he's resorting to that, his fate was already sealed.
Fucking normies, they don't get it...';

'>>33008742
No thanks...';

'>>33008794
>No thanks...
Lame...';

'would you date a girl who's pregnant/was pregnant? why or why not? what if she did have a child but chose adoption?';

'>>33008812
>would you date a girl who's pregnant/was pregnant? why or why not?
No. I don't want to be a father yet.';

'>>33008794
Coward';

'>>33008762
>Dude... stop.
What did he mean by this?';

'>>32992441
>at dinner with a few female friends and coworkers
>they start discussing their types
>all say tall
>I’m 5’7

I’m not insecure about my height until I’m reminded that a lot of women will rule me out because of it. It sucks not being someone’s first choice :/';

'>>33009611
I'm 5'10, from my experience women just mean "taller than me by enough for me to wear heels". But with that said, my gf is 5'8.';

'>>33009617
They mentioned 6’7. I don’t know what it is but they can like what they want';

'Is it ever okay to ask our your hairdresser? It feels like there's some chemistry, but I also feel like that's something you just don't do. That said, I'm an idiot and didn't ask a lot of women out because I thought it wasn't appropriate and now I'm 29 and single.';

'>>33004209
ill bite
>How do you like to refer to it?
pussy
>Are you happy with how it looks, or what would you change?
its okay, i have an innie. and if you dont look too close my hymen looks intact kek. i wish it was more puffy though
>Has how you looked changed over time?
No
>Do you like to casually play with your labia, like rolling them in your fingers or stretching them out?
sometimes
>Do you ever smell or taste yourself?
only to see if i need to shower
>Are you proud of it - do you like showing your pussy to new partners?
no i dont even like people looking at it when theyre eating me out
>Are you proud of how wet you can get, how deep you can be penetrared, how tight you are, or how your pussy feels to others?
i think it feels kinda cool, its sort of ridged like an onahole on the inside and not perfectly smooth and i can stretch it with my finger a little if i try. but it will naturally mold around my finger whether its just one or two fingers doesnt matter. its very entertaining
>Did you ever try to stretch yourself to your limit - what have you used to penetrate yourself?
one time i got one of those ginormous double ended jelly dildos and i couldnt even fit the head inside me so that was the first and last time i used a dildo';

'>>33009637
I mean my grandpa did this (grandma was a hairdresser at the time) but different generation...
I don't think there's any harm in trying if you think there's a chance';

'>>33008812
Pregnant in the past: sure who cares
I don't want kids tho...';

'Would you date an Indian American guy? If not why.';

'>>33010044
Indian dudes are always creeps, so no';

'>>33010129
Nta but wtf racist
I saw an Indian guy at Sainsbury's earlier with a white Stacy gf';

'>>33010044
>>33010129
>>33010136
Indian guys ARE creepy. Western guys who happen to be Indian tend to be significantly less so.';

'>>33008812
Yes. I think it should be fine as long as she's willing to get pregnant from me.';

'>>33008762
>Disturbing
are you implying that chode is big????';

'>>33004749
I think women in general have pretty high standards for themselves when it comes to grooming and hygiene. The only issue I have is how common leggings and yoga pants are worn, it's just lazy.

When it comes to men I think purging all cargo shorts from one's wardrobe should be a right of passage to be undertaken no later than one's 21st birthday; it astounds me how many men think it makes perfect sense to wear the same kind of clothes at 8 and 28.

>>33004819
You're overthinking it, and the part sex workers enjoy is getting paid. Also, don't go "see an escort" you're more likely to get robbed or set up than have a good time. Instead, save up a couple thousand and go on a "vacation." Your money will go much further, and you'll have less to worry about.

>>33008691
Your dick is fine.

>>33008781
>bitchez hate guys who've seen prozzies
I think it would be more accurate to say women don't respect men who are so stupid they feel the need to volunteer that they've paid for sex.

>>33008812
>would you
Generally, no. I wouldn't hold miscarriages and the like against a girl, but having an abortion is a red flag, and I have no interest in raising another man's child. I've only ever had one FWB who was a single mom, but she had a cesarian, and she was a short stack (and short stacks are my weakness) and our dynamic was strictly casual.
>why
In the case of abortion... as I have no desire to derail the thread, let's just say that under most circumstances, the act is irreconcilable with my values, and leave it at that. As for single moms, like I stated before, I have no interest in raising another man's child. Widows are a grey area, but when it comes to the majority of single moms, who either let some rando nut in them, or who torpedoed their family out of boredom, my advice is always the same: go finish the family you started.

>>33008918
>be interesting
Why? You clearly weren't.';

'>>33009239
If I had to guess, I think what he means is that it's just getting sad, that every piece of advice that could be given to you has already been given, and the only thing left to do is for you to control your emotions, and not be controlled by them.

>>33009611
>anon is 5'7 and IS RIGHT THERE
>"ermagerd ah lurrrv tall guise"
Yet if a fat chick was at the table and anon just threw out he doesn't fuck whales, he'd get mobbed. This will never not ruffle my feathers.

Anyway, anon, like the other anon said as long as you're tall enough where she can wear heels and still look up at you, you're fine. 6ft gets thrown around a lot, but most women have no idea what 6ft even looks like, and that they're essentially disqualifying 85% of men on height alone.

>>33009627
As if to prove my point, this is taller than Zion Williamson. They have no idea what the fuck they're talking about. Just be taller than them and you're good.';

'>>33008812
>would you date a girl who's pregnant/was pregnant?
I assume the question is about a girl who has or is about to have a child from another person. In that case... probably not?
>why or why not?
First of all, I'm far-far away from being ready for this. Don't want to completely shut down the idea of falling for a girl with a child, but that seems unlikely and I can't exactly tell why. Probably "that's technically not my child" and "too much responsibility right out of the gate".
>what if she did have a child but chose adoption?
Well, that's really none of my business. I suppose it depends on the circumstances: like whenever she was just sleeping around and not bothering with protection or there's some kind of story behind it. Might be a bit off-putting in the first case, but, again, that depends more on the person.
>>33009637
>Is it ever okay to ask our your hairdresser?
Personally, I would probably come to a conclusion that it is extremely inappropriate and won't dare to. However, I think you should take a careful leap of faith and see how it goes.
I'm an idiot myself and don't know what I'm talking about though.
>>33010044
Not. Because I'm straight.';

'>>33010142
I've seen Western guys who are Indian still be super creepy. I think it's in their DNA to be like that';

'>>33008742
If he wouldn't kill me afterwards, of course.
>>33008762
>What's ideal?
Less girthy, obvs.';

'>>33010299
>If I had to guess, I think what he means is that it's just getting sad, that every piece of advice that could be given to you has already been given, and the only thing left to do is for you to control your emotions, and not be controlled by them.
No. I mean that he's being neurotic af. Literally everything he's doing is wrong. He's anxious because he can't move on and almost beats himself up over it. This makes him check up on her, like a retard. Which then, makes him jealous and more anxious, and then he gets sad and feels impotent.
He goes on about how her new guy is a jerk or dumb or whatever and that she can do better, when he should just stop fucking looking and at least ACT like it isn't his problem anymore. She is acting like she doesn't give a fuck, why are you in such a hurry?
It took me a year amd a half to move on from a fucking crush and this retard is going crazy over not being completely over her ex girlfriend after like 6 months?
I said stop, because, quite literally, the best thing he could do is just shut the fuck up, cry on his pillow and accept that he's sad, and take it without worrying about moving on faster, instead of looking for validation by hooking up, etc.
Good on not contacting her tho. But he's more desperate than a fucking incel.

>>33010565
>Less girthy, obvs.
I meant like, how much. But it's whatever.';

'>>33010883
I wrote way too much. Now I'm the cringe.';

'>>33010883
So you're saying he should control his emotions, and not be controlled by them? In any case, I agree with everything you said.
>>33010898
There's nothing wrong with properly articulating your thoughts, that's kind of the point of the thread actually.';

'>>33010987
>So you're saying he should control his emotions, and not be controlled by them? In any case, I agree with everything you said.
I'm saying he shouldn't freak out for not having moved on yet.';

'>>33010883
>almost beats himself up over it
Not almost. I am beating myself up over it.
>stop fucking looking and at least ACT like it isn't his problem anymore
I'm trying to, but I really liked this person and it's hard to let go.
>over not being completely over her ex girlfriend after like 6 months?
Because I feel like a retard because we only dated for like 2 and a half months and I'm this bothered by it.
>instead of looking for validation by hooking up, etc.
Aren't you the one who told me I should go fuck someone else to get over my ex or was that a different anon?
>Good on not contacting her tho
Thanks, anon.';

'>>33011143
>Aren't you the one who told me I should go fuck someone else to get over my ex or was that a different anon?
I don't think so. I wouldn't have said that unless I was very clearly joking.
>Because I feel like a retard because we only dated for like 2 and a half months and I'm this bothered by it.
There's nothing to be bothered by. Cry in shame and then just get on with your day.';

'Why is it so hard to find a girl with a piss fetish';

'>>33011216
Just find a girl who likes squirting. It’s mostly piss.';

'Question for women who have had orgasm a while sitting on a guy’s face: How long did it take for you to climax and what kind of technique did the guy use?';

'>>33011143
My concern is that you're acting in a way that is possessive and obsessive. She's not yours, and as the saying goes "she was never your girl, it was just your turn." I'm sure she was a pretty girl, I'm sure she was a lot of fun, and I get that it feels awful to think she's sharing her body and her time with someone else. However, your time with her is over, and what you must realize, and repeat this to yourself like a mantra if you must, is this: she's just one bitch. Your idea of her eclipses the reality of her.

Fucking someone else is a reliable way to get your hormones to stop sabotaging your own efforts to move on, but it only works if you fuck someone you find as attractive or more attractive than the person you're trying to get over; some mentally ill troll ain't it.

You're attractive enough to consistently pull women, which means dating apps aren't a lost cause for you. Get yourself on one and find a cute girl that isn't confused about what she is. You need some raw, sexual, feminine energy to cleanse your palate.

>>33010416
I dunno if it's a genetic thing, or a cultural thing, or both, but Indian dudes always have a weird, rapey vibe when it comes to women. Some are just better at hiding it than others.';

'Ladies, would you let your boyfriend get on all fours and suck his dick from behind?

Fair warning, his asshole would be all in your face.';

'33/m, will you marry me? :)';

'>>32992441
For men, is 22 old for a woman? I got out of a 4 year relationship that has been my only relationship ever that I have been in since I was 17 actually (turned 22 a few months ago) and all those posts about a womens age make me paranoid. Women youre also welcome to share dating experience at this age too! I would appreciate anything. I fully expected to spend my life with this person so im scared about eventually trying to date again.';

'>>33012956
22 is not old at all. Even the guys who talk about women hitting "the wall" are talking about women in their early 30s. Relax, you're barely old enough to buy your own alcohol.';

'>>33012956
22 is super young, the people who think being 22 is 'far too old' are the people/pedos you do not want to date.

p.s., dating still sucks!';

'>>33012956
You’re still a baby. Don’t worry about it.';

'>>33012956
>For men, is 22 old for a woman?
No. I've never been in a relationship (that's unlikely to change anytime soon), but don't actually worry about it that much... Still get worked up about this sort of thing occasionally due to this specific kind of loneliness though. Despite that, I realize that there's more than enough time for it all and, against all odds, I'll get there in a brighter future.
>>33012974
>Even the guys who talk about women hitting "the wall" are talking about women in their early 30s.
That's quite silly to me. I'm 22 myself and when I stumble into some girl online on social media or YouTube/Twitch that seem attractive to me, they're usually in late 20s or even 30+.
It's obviously the case of "everything has their preference", but still.';

'>>33012929
If he was very good with his cleanliness, I'd consider it.';

'>>33010883
>I meant like, how much
It's hard to say. I know what size toys I like, but real dick is probs different. I'd worry that a dick thicker than like five inches and change could hurt in the not fun way.';

'>>33012956
No, the only real stickup with a woman’s age is her fertility and that doesn’t start declining till mid thirties.';

'>>33002687
This is actually a problem that has driven me insane this weekend and I was going to post about in some other board. I barely find any woman I see in person or on dating apps physically attractive. I spent half an hour on dating apps last night and gave maybe 4 or 5 right swipes, although I did ignore a lot of attractive girls who simply lived 500+ miles away. Today I went to the mall and just passively counted how many girls I thought were sexually attractive as they passed by, and only counted around 7. I don't think I'm representative of most guys though, I am extremely picky in what I like physically, combine that with my picky attitude towards personalities as well, it's the reason I haven't had a crush in 6 or 7 years.
>so you're gay?
No, the problem is I actually see beautiful women all the time online on instagram and tiktok, and constant exposure to models has rotted by brain.';

'>>33012956
22 is still quite young. 25 is where time is no longer your ally, and you want to really make a point of not wasting time on the wrong men. 28 is where you should be concerned if you're not married, or at least dating your future husband.';

'>>33012427
I'm at work so my id is probably different. But I wanted to respond and forgot to yesterday.
>you're acting in a way that is possessive and obsessive
Maybe, and that may be because it was my first relationship in 6 years. I've had sex in that time, but not a relationship. Also, she was the first person I had regular sex with and the first person I had stay over for a night or I would stay over for a night. I dunno. Shit finally lined up for the first time in years and it got pulled out from under me.
>but it only works if you fuck someone you find as attractive or more attractive than the person you're trying to get over
That shit isn't easy. Like I try, but I'm so fuckin autistic that my rizz isn't great. I'm also 28, so I feel bagging a younger girl is harder.
>You're attractive enough to consistently pull women, which means dating apps aren't a lost cause for you.
They feel like it. I get some matches, but I get ghosted or only a first date. Tinder kinda sucks, so does bumble. I've had kind of bettet luck on Hinge, but honestly, I just never know what the fuck to say on dating apps. With my ex, it just flowed so naturally when we first met. It's not something I've been able to replicate.';

'>>33012929
I'm into men's asses so that sounds like a great time, if anything.
>>33012956
I'm 25 and only went on my first date last month.';

'>>33014311
>Shit finally lined up for the first time in years and it got pulled out from under me
>That shit isn't easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4cbn3cCeYU
>I'm so fuckin autistic that my rizz isn't great
You're overthinking it. If women are giving you the time of day, if you're given serious consideration as a sexual partner with any regularity, you are objectively ahead of 75% of men. Your looks are your personality; most of the time when you think you're crashing and burning with spaghetti pouring out of your pockets, women are probably filtering everything you're saying in a positive way.
>I'm also 28, so I feel bagging a younger girl is harder
I'm older than you and close on women in their early 20s all the time.
>I get some matches
Again, you're doing better than the majority of men. The key is to have fun with it and not take it seriously. Dating apps aren't good for finding a sure thing tonight, use them for generating leads, so to speak.
>bumble
Bumble is a dumpster fire which is flawed by design, delete and uninstall.
>I just never know what the fuck to say on dating apps
A good rule of thumb is this: whatever made you swipe right, be it something in her profile, what she's doing in one of her pics, where she is in one of her pics, a band shirt she's wearing, even just pure animal attraction, lead with that. Ask a question, give a compliment. Most men seriously undervalue and underestimate the effectiveness of approaching a girl, whether in person or online, and stating their interest in them in simple, direct, and respectful terms.
>but I get ghosted
You need to move fast and stand out. Plenty of dudes try the beating around the bush approach, which gives the girl you're talking to way too much time to shift her attention to someone else. Make a good first impression and pivot to a meet up in, at most, four or five exchanges. If she's interested enough to want to know more, that's all it takes.';

'>>33014311
>only a first date
Assuming there's chemistry, are you trying to close? That is to say, bounce back to your place for the purposes of fun with genitalia? Are you receptive if a girl suggests going back to her place?';

'>>33014831
>>33013072

God bless you wondeful, classy ladies.';

'how did you get your girlfriend/boyfriend? please be detailed.';

'>>33015586
No one will believe me and I'm not gonna follow this thread to answer questions, but by answering a soc post in a kik thread
(I'm male, she was cis female, both over 21)

Whole debacle lasted a total of a year and a half, and desu she was kind of a cunt in the end';

'>>33015586
I have never had a gf.';

'>>33015586
I've never had a bf.';

'M asking F

Someone asked for my discord after we chatted for a few hours and we added each other, I cant tell if shes just being friendly or wants to meet up again. Any examples of signs to differentiate the two?';

'>>33015586
M, we met in high school, been together since';

'>>33012956
22 is young as fuck, personally I think people on here are way too annoying about a woman's age. I've met 30 plus women I've found attractive, wouldn't be opposed to dating one if I were single';

'>>33015586
Like I mentioned before here, I don't have a girlfriend at this time. Never really put much effort into it and it's unlikely girls would've been interested in somewhat civilized Gollum who still self-neglects himself. Although I was called cute a few times, but I don't know whenever it was serious or just a joke (lean towards the latter, naturally).';

'>>32992441
One of my friends admitted that they had a crush on me in the past. How likely is it that she still kinda likes me?';

'>>33017020
I mean, the "had" part kind of speaks for itself. Not to mention the fact that she actually mentioned that, even though it's totally possible that it's her testing the water and looking at your reaction to see if there's still a chance or something.
Without any additional context, it's probably safe to assume that nowadays she likes you as a friend at best.';

'>>33017475
“Had” basically means a month ago in this context';

'>>32992441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at_8fO19oIk';

'How as an autistic guy, am I supposed to deal with other people's "banter?" It's like I'm not allowed to use my method of communication
>play video game
>make callouts
>get bullied for making callouts
>just stop bothering communicating or even trying too hard, just mute everyone and throw

Or
>people make fun of me
>get offended when I make fun of them back
>if I block them on social media, they go on a rampage trying to get to me through every other person, telling those people that I'm going to kill myself or whatever
>everyone takes the side of that guy

I can't banter because my brain doesn't work as fast as everyone else's and when it does I always go "too far." I understand that as an autistic I'm trying to convey information while other people see communication primarily as a method to jockey for status, but it's like there's not even a neutral option you can pick. Trying to convey information is "nerdy" and people hate it, and being select with your words and generally avoiding all social interaction that isn't "safe" is seen as having an ego.';

'Both genders, what’s your 5 and 5 for a long-term partner? If you don’t know what that is, it’s 5 traits that are essential for a partner and 5 traits you’ll never tolerate in a partner. I’ll list my own too but I want to see what everyone else posts first. And post your gender when answering.';

'Men, I remind you that you owe me sex. Come to bed';

'>>33017615
Male.
Essential:
>wants children
>homebody, or at least likes to stay in often
>responsible
>nurturing
>intelligent, likes long conversations covering a variety of topics
Intolerable:
>drug use or history of drug use, including marijuana
>alcoholism
>believing in or supporting trans or intersectional nonsense
>Satanism, wicca, reddit-tier atheism, etc.
>extensive history of casual sex, hookups, etc.';

'>>33017623
That's my purse
I don't know you';

'>>33017648
>eliminated because of marijuana
Shit';

'>>33017668
Smoking it a couple times with friends in school is one thing, smoking a bowl a day for a decade is another. The former would be acceptable, the latter, not so much.';

'Girls, do you find the idea of someone who just sits his ass all day in front of his computer appealing?
And if you do, WHY?!?!?';

'>>33017496
Alright... Well, I don't really think it really adds much. Anything is possible. You probably need to get better replies here and try to look at broader picture and analyze situation based on that.
>>33017561
Not an autistic (at least officially; I don't know for sure) guy, but I would say you would have to bet on finding the right group of friends and taking things slow in order to properly adjust to that environment. Your examples in particular sound like there're just mental assholes around you.
>>33017615
>Both genders, what’s your 5 and 5 for a long-term partner?
Male. It's hard to say as I don't want to limit myself and potentially eat my own words in the future, but I'm going to try and think of something:
Essential traits:
>Can be both quiet and outgoing person.
>Shares at least some passion for gaming and being stay-at-home at times .
>Keep me in check when I'm being wrong while respecting my perspective on things.
>Sweet and kind personality. Very cheerful.
>Not opposed to offensive jokes and being sassy occasionally.
Never tolerate:
>Alcohol, cigarettes and drugs.
>Gaslighting and manipulation.
>Overly bitchy attitude.
>Don't push my limits too far against my wishes.
>Disrespectful to other people who didn't deserve it.
>>33017623
No, I don't. And I really doubt you would want to get such favor from me.';

'>>33017615
M
Yes
>Curious
>Ambitious/hardworking
>Honest/good at communicating
>Somewhat logical/not completely controlled by emotion
>Passionate
No
>Addict, whether it be substances or vices
>Disrespectful to random people
>Boring/shit at conversation
>Too swept up in trends and fashion and social media
>Crippling insecurity/plastic surgery';

'>>32992441
Women,
Which of the following rough sex acts are you ok with or at least don’t mind the idea of?

Smacking ass
Slapping body
Slapping face
Restraining arms behind you
Restraining legs
Pulling hair
Grabbing breasts
Light choking
Heavy choking
Pushing head into bed/couch/ground with hand
Pushing head into bed/couch/ground with foot
Biting
Putting fingers in mouth
Spitting in mouth
Contorting your body in different positions
Folding you in half for missionary
Sticking a finger in your ass
Intentional balls deep slamming
Laying full weight on you
Cumming in your mouth
Cumming on your face
Cumming on your body (ass/tits/stomach/back)
Cumming in you
Cock slapping on your vagina
Cock slapping on your face/tongue
Cock slapping on your body
Rubbing tip of dick on clitoris
Hickies

Just curious, lmk if I missed any big ones';

'>>33017668
what's your discord?';

'Is anyone here an autistic man and has sex?
How do I stop from prematurely ejaculating. I'm fairly certain this has to do with autism because like everything else, it's always 100 or 0. No ED treatments or anything will work because the problem is that if I'm fully hard, I'm about to cum, and if I'm not about to cum, well I'm not fully hard. Basically makes it impossible to hold any kind of middle ground and since my dick is small it MUST be fully hard.';

'>>33017561
If I had to guess, I'd say your desire for approval is palpable. You need to become comfortable calling people on their bullshit.
>people make fun of me
>get offended when I make fun of them back
I'd be willing to bet one of two things is happening.
1. They tease, and you respond with something personal and hurtful. Don't do that.
2. They've clued in they can gaslight and bully you, and you won't challenge them on their hypocrisy.

Figure out where you're going wrong, and fix it.

Finally, a recurring theme I've noticed is you need to find your tribe; it sounds like a lot of the people you surround yourself with kind of suck.

>>33018866
>Folding you in half for missionary
>Intentional balls deep slamming
>Cumming in you
This is entry level shit.';

'>>33019058
you have a gf and have these problems?';

'>>33019954
Actually I'm a virgin but this girl has been hitting on me I think just for a hook-up and I've been worrying about doing it because I want it to not like, totally suck.';

'>>33019982
i see, hmm, maybe stop masturbating for a while?';

'>>33017615
Here are mine

Essential traits
>Kinky, loves dressing sexy
>Loyalty
>Good hygiene
>Open to new experiences
>Takes care of herself mentally and physically

Never tolerate
>A need to control others
>Neediness
>Starting fights or causing drama to get attention
>Jealousy
>Using someone’s insecurities to manipulate, exploit, or hurt them';

'>>33020462
And my gender is male.';

'how to ascertain whether or not someone is a good fit for you if you're looking to date at work
there's a frumpy looking glasses wearing woman at work, how do I check if she has traits that make dating possible when I don't even get a chance to talk to her, all I know is she gets autistically awkward when she passes by me sometimes';

'>>33018866
all of them lel';

'>>33017615
Female.
Essential:
>loyal
>emotionally available when it matters, will let me mommy him sometimes
>eager to start a family with me
>caring
>intelligent, has something he is incredibly autistic about
Intolerable:
>cheating
>NEET, temporary is okay
>drug use including smoking, casual drinking is fine
>younger than I am
>doesn’t like pets';

'>>33018866
Smacking ass
Slapping body
Light choking
Heavy choking
Pushing head into bed/couch/ground with hand
Biting
Putting fingers in mouth
Contorting your body in different positions
Folding you in half for missionary
Sticking a finger in your ass
Intentional balls deep slamming
Laying full weight on you
Cock slapping on your vagina
Cock slapping on your face/tongue
Cock slapping on your body
Rubbing tip of dick on clitoris
Hickies
Anything with restraining, tit touching, hair touching, or cum are no's from me.';

'>>33020503
What's wrong with touching your tits?';

'>>33018866
Everything but choking, spitting in mouth, contorting my body, and finger in ass';

'>>33020503
>Anything with restraining, tit touching, hair touching, or cum are no's from me
>Mfw
Why are you so opposed to all the best things?';

'>>33019985
Wouldn't that make me more sensitive?';

'>>33018866
Im okay with all of them except for >pushing head into ground with hand
And
>pushing head into bed/couch/ground with foot

Men, why does degrading women turn you on?';

'>>33020940
It doesn’t, just curious because some people do it. I’d personally wouldn’t like to do half the stuff desu';

'>>33020940
It only turns me on if she's into it and enjoying it in which case it's very hot, otherwise it's cringe and lame';

'>>33020494
Decent list. Seems like loyalty is big for sexy ATOGA, which is a good sign.';

'>>33020940
>Men, why does degrading women turn you on?
It doesn't? I don't wanna do either of those things.';

'>>33020508
They're sensitive in a bad way. Also I'm just plain insecure about them in general, so I prefer not having them be the focus ever.
>>33020719
Restraining is scary because I could be cum in/on. My tits hurt if you play with them even a bit too roughly. My hair takes forever to do and having it completely ruined during sex is only fun on weekends. And obviously cum is the worst substance in the universe. All reasonable conclusions, I think. I still like all the other fun stuff listed.';

'>>33020940
But most of those things are degrading, and you're into them…';

'>>33020940
>why does degrading women turn you on?

It doesn't. On the other hand putting little shits - regardless of sex - in their place fills me with a sense of ontological justice. It just happens that a lot of those snarky, bitchy, annoying brats tend to be femme. The dick of the righteous shall never tire.';

'>>33020940
>Men, why does degrading women turn you on?
First, it's worth acknowledging that there's degradation, then there's degradation; that is to say, there's actually degrading your partner, and then there's just playing in the bedroom.

As for why it turns me on, several reasons. My girl enjoys it, which is always a plus. I suppose another reason would be that I find the nonstop pandering to women in public spaces tiresome, and it is liberating and enjoyable to me to subvert such things.

>>33020955
For me it can be enjoyable for different reasons. If I love a girl, and it's an act of trust and submission on her part, that's just mutually enjoyable and strengthens the relationship. However, there's also been instances where I didn't like or respect the woman at all, and just wanted to see how far I could stretch the concept of hatefucking.

Typing this out, I feel there's two kinds of rough/degrading sex; the kind that comes with aftercare, and the kind that comes with a waiver.

>>33022512
>But most of those things are degrading
In the list the anon gave, only spitting in the mouth really qualifies IMHO. Cumming inside a girl isn't degrading, pissing in her mouth while she holds her framed bachelor's in women's studies, is.

So I've heard.

>>33022438
>Restraining is scary because I could be cum in/on
If this is a concern, you shouldn't be having sex with that person in the first place.
>obviously cum is the worst substance in the universe
Yeah, but it cleans up easily enough. As someone who almost always finishes inside the lucky lady I'm with, and prefers the face or tits if conception is a concern, I'm curious: what's your procedure for when the guy... comes to fruition? Do you just have a towel on standby?';

'>>33019982

Who cares if you cum early just make sure she has a good time first. There's more to sex then penetration.';

'Question for F,

How long is too long to hold out on proposing? We're coming up on three years, and she's getting restless. Also, another question, why is marriage so important to women? It's not the 1950s anymore.';

'Women, describe the best first date you’ve ever had, including how the guy asked you out and how you met him.';

'>>32998405
played through it twice? I've kept the same save for almost four years now.';

'>>33025977
I feel like there's not a lot to do once you've maxed out everyone's affections and caught all the fish and whatnot, no?';

'>>33025977
>I've kept the same save for almost four years now.
Been playing the game for almost a year now and stuck with initial save. Aside from quick Joja run distraction.
>>33026105
There's much to do after repairing Community Center and such, even if you don't care much for Perfection. Especially with Patch 1.6 that added a lot of new stuff.';

'>>33027007
>There's much to do after repairing Community Center and such, even if you don't care much for Perfection. Especially with Patch 1.6 that added a lot of new stuff.
I also wanted to try marrying another person, and breaking up with my wife to do so felt wrong.';

'To guys and ladies:

Can traps dress and act girly but still exclusively have sex with girls?';

'>>33027463
I'm positive there are girls who are into that. But I dunno how common they are.';

'>>33027463
yes, though if you wear the socks it usually implies you either like taking it up the butt or giving it up the butt too.';

'>>33025787
There is technically never a "too long". A lot of girls are quite insecure and the idea of marriage gives them more of a sense that you're serious. That said, weigh carefully if you want to actually commit to her. A lot of people date because they're afraid of being alone, rather than because they're in love. Marriage can serve as a bit of a filter for that, since it forces you to consider "do i really want this". I'd say waiting 4 to 5 years is very reasonable since a lot of people fall out of love at the 2 to 3 year mark, that said, many girls might start getting doubtful after 3 without one. Why would you say you've been delaying the proposal? Do you not want tk marry her?';

'>>33020477
How about you try to befriend her you goofball. Most of the best relationships begin as friendships. Try to approach her, be direct about your intentions. "Hey you seem like an interesting person, but I feel like we haven't really gotten a chance to get to know eachother yet. Would you like to grab a coffee some time?". It doesn't need to be anything too official, it doesn't need to be a date date. Ask her about herself. If you're also kind of a sperg maybe mention you love learning things and have a lot of interests. If she likes that you can info dump about your respective special interests. If not, you can just leave it at a little coffee date and not ask her out again.';

'>>33027540
>Why would you say you've been delaying the proposal
I've been married once before. Going through a divorce wasn't fun, and that's when I was young and broke enough that it wasn't so costly that I wasn't able to recover from it. Nowadays, I make a lot of money, I own a considerable amount of property and assets. My net worth is significantly higher than my girlfriend's. A divorce would be financially devastating at this point. My girl swears she'd never do me like that... but my ex said the same thing... and then proceeded to tell a judge she needed more from me in monthly support than I had ever actually made at that point. (Thankfully, she wasn't granted any alimony, just way more than she contributed in assets; if only she had waited another eight months)

The thing is, I believe that she believes she wouldn't try to fuck me... but that's because she loves me. I imagine if her affections shifted, so too would her definition of what is fair, what she's entitled to.

I love her. I enjoy being with her. It's just hard for me to justify doing something that adds nothing to my life, beyond making me vulnerable to the nonsense of divorce and family court. I much prefer the way things are, where she and I are both happy, but if either of us is free to go if things should change. Think of it this way, if we get married, and she's no longer happy... I lose everything. If we get married, and I'm no longer happy... I can either continue being unhappy, or lose everything.

She's been persistently pushing the idea that she should sell her house, move in with me, get married, and start having kids. Part of me is open to the idea that she's just a woman in love who wants to go all in... the other part of me won't let me ignore that modern marriage is meaningless, and life isn't a Disney movie.

If I didn't have to worry about divorce, or parental alienation down the road, I'd happily marry her... but I do have to worry about these things. Make sense?';

'How do I try to contact a girl again who I think was throwing it at me but I was too autistic to realize?';

'>>33027732
If it is a healthy relationship, you could perhaps bring up your trauma with her. Consider a prenuptual that would be fair in case of a divorce where neither of you get screwed. However that of course depends on the kind of relationship the two of you have. I know a lot of women would be offended at your desire for safety rather than being understanding, but I think if you can truly make her understand and she genuinely just wants you to commit to eachother in marriage there might be a way.
At the end of the day, if she wants marriage, and is not fine with giving you the consessions needed to make you feel safe and comfortable in such a dynamic, that may simply be a dealbreaker, but even in that case it would seem nonsensical to delay an inevitable fight by just avoiding the topic.';

'>>33024936
>Do you just have a towel on standby?
Usually a trashbin to jerk him off into, if not some tissues or whatever.';

'>>33027457
>I also wanted to try marrying another person, and breaking up with my wife to do so felt wrong.
Yeah, totally. Creating a different farmer is a good call here. Although I also remember seeing someone having a mod that allows marrying multiple people at once, so I guess there's that as well if you feel like it.
>>33027463
Probably, I guess.';

'>>33027736
Text her "hey, tryna fuck?" I'm kidding but it's remarkable how often this works.

>>33027760
All fair points, and have come up in one form or another. She's on board with the idea of a prenup, and, quickly for context, her net worth right now is just shy of $250K, mine is hard to give a hard number on, but it's in the ballpark of 4mil. My loose proposal for a prenup boils down to "if we get divorced, regardless of how or when, I'll give you 1.5 mil, you go have a nice life without a fuss." I think this is beyond fair, and while she initially pushed back with "but what if your income goes way up over the years?" I pointed out that it's way more than she'd be bringing into the marriage, and it's more than a lot of people make working 40+ hours a week for 30 years; not a bad foundation to rebuild from. She agreed.

My only real hangup is prenups are notorious for getting thrown out for the most obscure and esoteric bullshit, and as someone who never intended to get married again, I'd have to do a lot of research and consult a lawyer before I'd possibly feel comfortable moving forward, even with a prenup.

And again, this is all for something I think is pointless in the first place. Sentiment is mostly lost on me. I love this girl very much but I've made it clear to her that at the end of the day I value my peace of mind and financial security more than indulging her. She already has my love and devotion.';

'>>33027810
>Usually a trashbin to jerk him off into
How romantic. In all seriousness I legitimately don't know if I could finish like that. I'd be too distracted by the overwhelming urge to show you the door and block your number, lol. All kidding/not kidding aside, sex is way too primal and intense an affair for me to even bother with something like that. It's kind of remarkable how much what people are into can vary.

Out of curiosity, have you ever had someone lose interest in sex because of your boundaries/what you're comfortable with? I've only ever stopped in the middle of the act with one girl, and it was because she insisted I wear a condom AND insisted I pull out AND was neurotic about "remember to pull out!" to the point I was having trouble staying hard. I just stopped, dismounted, popped it off, Kobe'd that shit, put on my clothes, blocked her number, and left.

I've thought about that encounter a few times over the years, and I sometimes wonder if I was the asshole, but what was the alternative? I wasn't enjoying myself, she wasn't endearing to me at all, and I wanted to leave. Women aren't obligated to finish a sex act just because they started it, so it follows neither was I, right? Not to mention, single woman with box of condoms in her drawer? Red flag.';

'>>33027955
Never had anyone walk out on me like that, but I do think my aversion has made partners at the time less interested in sex.
>it was because she insisted I wear a condom AND insisted I pull out AND was neurotic about "remember to pull out!"
Literally me early on in the sexual relationship. I understand it's annoying and stupid. I can only hope that the test of me makes up for that.';

'>>33027732
>She's been persistently pushing the idea that she should sell her house, move in with me, get married, and start having kids.
If she wants to have kids with you, she probably wants the assurance of a marriage before making such a commitment. She probably doesn't want to be a single mother, and even if you say you'll stay with her, without marriage it's a lot easier for you to just walk away if you just change your mind. I'd also assume there are other legal things involving kids that would be a lot more complicated if you're not married. And even without kids, being married ensures that you're each other's next of kin and can see each other or make decisions for one another in the case of an emergency. I understand your fear of marriage and I'm not trying to invalidate that, but please understand that not getting married is probably just as scary for her.
If you decide you absolutely cannot marry her though, I'd make that clear to her sooner rather than later. If she wants kids but refuses to have them without the commitment of marriage, she needs the time to find someone who will tie the knot before her biological clock runs out.';

'>>33027932
I almost would just because I'm not sure how else to deal with her.';

'>>33025787
marriage is important to women because some dudes will coast along with them until they find someone better. at least if you're married it makes screwing around more difficult. the whole "it's not the 1950's anymore" is stupid, what does that have to do with wanting reassurance that the guy is serious?';

'>>33028018
>I understand it's annoying and stupid
That shows an impressive degree of emotional maturity. Seriously.
>I can only hope that the test of me makes up for that
I'd say your off to a good start. I have a few women I'm friends with, in spite of sexual tension, just because we recognize how incompatible we are. The moment you mention an aversion to cum, you better have a personality that's endearing as fuck or I'm out.

>>33028031
>she probably wants the assurance of a marriage
Yeah, but what does marriage assure? A degree of financial vulnerability in me, and not a whole lot else, and in return I gain... nothing. It's a hard sell. I have to think on it.
>If she wants to have kids with you
She does, she's also got baby rabies bad. I'm not in a rush.
>please understand that not getting married is probably just as scary for her
I hadn't thought to look at her position through the lens of fear. You've given me something to think about, and something for she and I to talk about. Thank you, truly.
>If you decide you absolutely cannot marry her
Nah, I can. Just has to be the right time, with the right circumstances, for the right reasons.

>>33028033
If she was "throwing it at you" I seriously would. I've propositioned women who were thirsty for me with a similar disregard for subtlety and had it end very well. What's the saying? If they're not into you what you say doesn't matter, and if they are it doesn't matter what you say. Sounds like something out of a TikTok but there's truth to it.

>>33028072
>what does that have to do with wanting reassurance that the guy is serious?
I mean I want reassurance that she's not going to fuck me for half my net worth, fuck someone else, and let my kids call them "dad," what about all that? Right, marriage means fuck all, and the government has replaced families... because it's "not the 1950s anymore" as they say.';

'>>33028526
>Yeah, but what does marriage assure?
It assures that you won't just up and leave one day. Of course, divorces are a thing, you're more than well aware of that. But because they're such a pain, it means you most likely won't just leave over the smallest thing. Marriage gives assurance that you truly will be there for here through thick and thin. I know this probably sounds like a load of bullshit after you've been through a divorce, but after being with each other for so long, the idea of you just being able to up and leave at the drop of a hat can be scary.
>Nah, I can. Just has to be the right time, with the right circumstances, for the right reasons.
That's fair, but please don't drag it out for too long. She has her fertility to worry about. Please don't let your hesitance stall out her biological clock until it's too late.';

'>>33028526
I don't see how a woman wanting assurance led you to trying to act like the intention was to minimize yours. A normal healthy relationship will provide assurance for both parties, and I was explaining why a woman would want marriage. Apparently you're too stupid to figure that out, though. There are ways to create contracts before marriage to assure she can't fuck you over as much. For cheating, there is no true assurance on both parties. So bringing that up is stupid because she's at just as much risk as you. Marriage only means as much as you make it, and if you get with someone who it means nothing to, yeah, it'll end badly. That doesn't mean she isn't allowed to want an actual marriage that's healthy, and gives her and her partner assurance. Also if you aren't up front about being hesitant about marriage, or not being in a rush for babies... you are the asshole she wanted assurance against and is after marriage to begin with. Her youth is valuable, as is her biological clock. if you waste that you're disgusting and part of the reason relationships mean fuck all these days. She deserves commitment and someone who is on the same page. If you are scared of marriage, not after kids... you also deserve someone who is on the same page. so go after someone who is, instead of wasting both of your time.';

'>>33028072
Well that's the thing, I'm autistic, so I don't know if she was throwing it at me or not. It's not like she's sending me nudes or anything.';

'I'm 32 and I still don't get what women want long term. I can talk to basically anyone and be friends. Soon as relationships become a factor I got no clue how to get anything long term going. It probably doesn't help that at this point I only talk to women online. As I have never had any luck in the real world outside my first encounter with a lady. I kinda just want a galpal I can ask questions to and act as like a coach. So here's my Discord ray.olight';

'>>32992441
Guys, be sincere please...

Do you tell any girl that blows you that they're the best/really good at it just to stoke their ego and get more head?

I'm a glarkchamp in my own mind, just sincerely love it for various reasons. I've had 2 exfwbs message me throughout the decade I was with my ex. They would hmu on fb to go on about missing how I was with my head game. I always ignored them. One was particularly obnoxious and spammed dick pics so blocked him and he kept making accounts. The other offered financial compensation that kept increasing. These two always said I was their best experience of receiving head, idk if I believe it. The others I've hooked up with have said it. The only virgin I had, I only did a few gentle licks and suckled his sack, and slowly plunged his length entirely into throat and he busted. Fastest ever, but to be fair...he was a virgin. He became stalker obsessed with me, had to have my brother threaten him because it got to a point I was legit scared.

So, is it sincere or am I tripping?';

'>>33029148
>Do you tell any girl that blows you that they're the best/really good at it just to stoke their ego and get more head?
It's probably the useless reply since I'm a virgin myself, I would probably be sincere if I actually ended up liking it. Which would be very likely to me, I feel like. Not only due to first experience, but I gravitated towards blowjob in time when I fallen into a trap of watching porn. So there's this bias that would probably affect my first impression.
And even if I do end up not liking it, I would still be nice about it. Getting very obsessive about that is incredible weird and disturbing. Even if I wanted more, there're obviously more ways to be more nice and civil about it.
>So, is it sincere or am I tripping?
I mean, considering how they all tried to keep it going, it was probably sincere in both ways: not only you were actually that good, but they wanted more and tried to do everything they could think of to keep the show going.';

'>>33029148
from what you're saying I'm doubting if it's your head game and more so you choosing shitty men. I don't think decent guys would become stalkers even if it was the best head of their life or try to buy you off. granted, it could be both, though.';

'>>33029280
They all mentioned its my sincere enthusiasm plus skills, and eagerness to do it unprompted. It's a personal fetish, because of an oral fixation in general.
>>33029335
One guy was a rich, hot, hung cliche financebro so yeah he was essentially a douche I'd never date that's why it was a casual situation. The other was a divorced dad that went through a midlife crisis by getting roided/fit, expensive cars/extreme sports and dating younger women casually. Yet he was the spammer of dick pics and making accounts to try get in touch with me. Guess he was nuttier than I realized, but the sex was great. The virgin was a younger autistic guy, he was a skinny bullied kid until post high school getting getting fit. So he had ugly duckling syndrome for sure. So, guess you're right that they weren't decent and that's why I didn't seriously date them.';

'>>33029407
So basically you're saying the best thing for a man to do for sex is to be roided out and have a big dick.';

'>>33029148
I personally don't, but I imagine a lot of guys do since they're so desperate. I've told women they're bad at giving head but at this point I've had so many bad experiences I'm starting to think it's me, not them.';

'>>33029474
Well he was low dose not exactly roided out lol. It was for his age and for medically being low T. He looked great imo not massive, His dick was average. He was just a very experienced and generous lover. Only the financebro was hung, it wasn't all that great sexually.
>>33029543
Yeah well communication is vital. I express my kinks/preferences and what gets me going amd share it and they respond with theirs. I've had a guy say he hates getting bjs, that he never cums from it and just prefers fucking. I didn't see that as a challenge, just as an incompatibility. I love it too much to bother having sex with a guy so disinterested. What's been your issue with receiving? I'm curious. I hear teeth, lack of skills, to even bad breath being an issue from getting bad head. But could just be that you're just not into it.';

'Ladies,

Do you ever slip a finger in your asshole while masturbating?';

'>>33029924
I don't. I don't even do any penetration vaginally when masturbating become I'm only ever in the mood for that when with a guy. Always seemed weirdly disembodied to me. Just clit rubbing to get off when alone, but for me it's a quick stress relief or just helps me sleep. An orgasm with a guy is way different in sensation and purpose. Just me though.';

'>>33025924
No good dates? Damn, that’s rough.';

'men,
Is it fucked up that I get turned on by being called mommy by a partner';

'>>33030390
No, not really.
Unless it makes you uncomfortable.';

'answering questions for all curious moids

disc: rainbowkilleromarmateen';

'>>32992441
> 19/f

When guys cum, does it just sort of shut off automatically or do men have to consciously make it stop?';

'>>33030517
what about choosing to cum? what are the specifics on that, like I'm thinking about edging as an example, I can't edge to save my life';

'>>33030530
that's my next question. Plus, why can't guys continue from where they left off?';

'>>33030533
what do you mean by that :(';

'>>33030517
eh, it's kind of like it just runs out. Imagine if you had a squirt gun and you just kept pulling the trigger until there was no more water. Once the cum stops, the orgasm ends pretty soon after.';

'>>33030547
how long does it last? I've heard it's really quick, it looks quick in porn too, but like porn also has every women in existence shaved';

'>>33030547
Can you make it last longer, or increase the volume? Or does the amount a guy cums related to how hot his partner is?';

'>>33030563
Doesn't edging make the body make more? I'd like confirmation on this one';

'>>33030390
No, unless you try to force it on a partner who isn't into it.';

'>>33030563
After 15 years of cumming I am somewhat of an expert. I can tell you load size is nearly random. Retention will always increase the volume but after 3 days it hits the max size, there's no gains after that. But even after three days some guys may not be able to cum or stay hard. Psychological blockage is powerful.

As for duration of the orgasm it's probably genetic. I personally have no idea how guys shoot ropes for several seconds';

'>>33030592
wait you're a guy right? how long does your last?';

'>>33030563
Idk about lasting longer but keeping the stimulation going until you’re actually done feels better. Volume is dictated by hydration, genetics, time since last ejaculation, diet, and possibly some supplementation. Having a hot partner doesn’t hurt but if you’re having a good time you’ll cum all you have. It’s more mood and stimulation than anything else when determining how much you let loose out of your stores.

>>33030569
In my experience it makes me physically shoot out harder and farther and dilutes the color with more volume of liquid. If you want your best shot possible then stay hydrated, eat healthy foods(especially celery and fruit), have strong pelvic floor muscles, wait at least 3 days without nutting, delay ejaculation for about an hour, have a good time with someone exciting to you (ideally someone who loves cum), and possibly supplement with certain vitamins and such.';

'>>33028637
This touches on another (and admittedly, mostly irrational) concern that once she has the ring she'll just stop putting in effort.
>She has her fertility to worry about
She wasn't worried about it during her 20s, why should I suddenly give it priority over my own life pacing and boundaries now? I've said as much to her (with way more tact, obviously) and she may not have liked it, but where's the lie? I'll knock her up when I'm good and ready, which isn't too far off, but still... my seed, my wallet, my choice.

>>33028681
Who hurt you?
>A normal healthy relationship
My gut tells me you're not qualified to speak on this.
>Apparently you're too stupid to figure that out
You always a full-on cunt right out of the gate, or...?
>Marriage only means as much as you make it
Actually, and this is one of my issues with it, as far as society is concerned it objectively means very little.
>There are ways to create contracts before marriage to assure she can't fuck you over as much
I've already touched on how inconsistently courts will honor prenups.
>Also if you aren't up front about being hesitant about marriage, or not being in a rush for babies
I am, and I'm not sure what led you to believe I wasn't. Aside from your own ingrained biases, I mean.
>Her youth is valuable, as is her biological clock
I agree, and if I was here, I would've acted accordingly.
>if you waste that
I am not capable of wasting it; it's her body, it's her life. She and she alone bares accountability.
>She deserves commitment
You say, knowing nothing about her aside from the fact that she's a woman. I mean you're right, she's great, and I love her, but your post is full of assumptions about two people you don't know. It's a bad look.

>>33029029
Think of it this way, what do you really have to lose?

>>33029147
Different women want different things. In general I find they value affection, stability, and an enthusiasm for eating ass and pussy.';

'>>33029148
No, I make a point of not coddling the female ego. It's manipulative and beneath me.
>I'm a glarkchamp
Blessed is the THROAT GOAT.

If I may offer some advice? In the future, bless more deserving men with your gifts; you seem the have a type, and that type is dickheads who don't respect boundaries. Do better, future you will be grateful.

>>33029407
>enthusiasm
When it comes to head, enthusiasm is everything; if a girl treats it like a chore I wonder why she's even bothering at all. In such circumstances, I take pride in my ability to grow aggressively soft as I cast a disapproving glare.
>that's why I didn't seriously date them
You need to not waste your time on these idiots at all. I'm not saying to try and get wet for "nice guys" but you gotta practice some moderation, if you chase guys solely by how much they excite you, you're gonna have a bad time, and by the time you're ready to "settle down" it'll already be too late.

I'm assuming you're in your early or mid 20s? This is your best window for meeting men. You can use it to make bad decisions, or good investments. You cannot have both.';

'>>33030856
>She wasn't worried about it during her 20s
She probably felt that she had time, plus she probably thought you would have married her by now, so she probably wasn't as worried because she figured things would work out in time, but they're now taking longer than she expected.
>why should I suddenly give it priority over my own life pacing and boundaries now?
It doesn't have to take priority over your own life pacing, but your life pacing also can't take priority over her biological clock. Don't just keep beating around the bush and not giving her a clear answer on when you'll marry her. That's just cruel and a waste of her limited time. Be clear about a timeline you're comfortable with, and if that might be too late for kids, make it clear to her so can choose if you or kids are more important to her. Your seed, your choice, but if you choose not to give her said seed, she deserves time to find someone else who will. Don't rob her of such a major part of life just because you have cold feet.';

'girls, do you sniff the sweat from the apocrine glands in your groin when curious about it's unique odor';

'>>33030856
the irony of you bitching about my post having assumptions when you sit there and make your own about me because you didn't like what I had to say.
I will admit I didn't know courts didn't honor prenups. Are you a lawyer?
secondly, I said IF you aren't up front. I wouldn't of included the IF I assumed anything. that's projection on your part. all of what I said was based on IF you weren't clear about your intentions and were a manipulative bastard. if that doesn't apply to you, why are you so upset?
third, I do agree she bares accountability, but I do think accountability can get screwy when some people are manipulative. If you were up front as you said, that doesn't apply to you, but some men will play mind games and that obviously will change the picture. I am not saying that means people no longer have that accountability, but if active manipulation is occurring obviously they might not be able to make the best of decisions in that case.
and you're right, I don't know anything about her aside from her being a woman, but I feel no need to assume toxicity in someone who I have literally no information or context on and isn't even here. you however are clearly present here.
what's a bad look is you getting emotional and crying because of your own projection and biases and then trying to pin it all on me. If you didn't want someone to comment their thoughts on your relationship or give advice, you shouldn't of posted about it in a public thread looking for insight. If you think I look bad for doing so then that's a solid you problem and a serious skill issue. Nice try, though, the only cunt here is you. Cope harder.';

'>>33030902
>She probably felt that she had time
Sadly, a lot of women make this mistake.
>she probably thought you would have married her by now
I certainly hope not; I mentioned my disdain for marriage on our first date. Part of what concerns/bothers me is I do feel like she's been telling herself I'd change my mind eventually, and I've never given her a reason to think I would, and one of my biggest turn offs is when a woman gets upset at me about something she promised herself. Does that make any sense?
>It doesn't have to take priority over your own life pacing, but your life pacing also can't take priority over her biological clock
...But if two variables are in opposition to one another, by definition one of them has to take priority over the other. I am sympathetic to the plight of the biological clock, but to be fair my girl spent the better part of her 20s wasting her time with the wrong people. To her (considerable) credit, she made the commitment and did meaningful work to heal from childhood trauma, better herself, and remove toxic influences from her life before all her best years were behind her. Not to sound immodest, but she's now in her 30s, and has openly voiced anxiety that she knows I'm the best she's ever had, the best she could ever get, and is worried I'm eventually going to grow bored of her. I'm sensitive to all of that, but she spent her time how she spent her time, and now she's on my time.

Having said all that, she and I actually had a really good talk this morning. I assured her that unless she gives me a reason to reconsider, I'm likely going to propose before the end of the year. I just don't want it to feel obligatory, and made it clear there would be conditions. Her being sensitive to all that actually really puts me at ease, and who knows, maybe I'll knock her up sooner rather than later?

She's not on birth control, her dirty talk is top shelf, and my willpower has limits. Shit happens, ya know?';

'>>33029407
>It's a personal fetish, because of an oral fixation in general.
Oh... So, like, you actually love it? Yeah, that probably played its part. Like it was mentioned before, it does sound like a combination of your skill and those guys being crazy assholes.
>>33030390
It's probably more of a preference thing and depends on the circumstances, so that's not necessarily bad.';

'>>33031030
>the irony of you bitching
Not bitching, just observing.
>make your own about me because you didn't like what I had to say
My problem isn't really with anything you said, I actually think you made some decent points, my issue is with how you said it; you're very casually insulting, people don't tend to respond well to that. Anyway, what do you say we try to right the ship and keep it constructive from here on out?
>IF, etc
Yeah manipulative people are shitty, but that has nothing to do with me, so I'm not sure why you brought it up, unless you were just throwing out reasons why she might be concerned. That isn't it. I mean she has her irrational fears like everyone else, but the main point of contention isn't that she thinks I'm being false, rather that I'm unyielding. Like most women she's used to using tears and arguing from a place of emotion to get her way, and that just doesn't work on me, and it frustrates the shit out of her... in a way that makes her respect me. Simply put, I am direct and forthcoming to a degree that many people find unbalancing.
>accountability
All fair points, and I'm not a robot. I make mistakes too, which is why I don't expect anyone to get it right, all the time. What I do assess, and judge, however, are patterns of poor decision making. The reason my girl is in a race against the biological clock is because she wasted a lot of time on the wrong things and the wrong people. I'm sensitive to the why of it, and again I commend her for the growth she's made, but ultimately if I wasn't confident being with her is what I wanted, I wouldn't rush into a commitment for the sake of appeasing her. I (probably; memento mori) have plenty of time. She doesn't. Such is life.';

'>>33031535
What's the source for that Socrates quote?';

'>>33031030
>Are you a lawyer
No, I'm just frequently required to deal with them.
>I will admit I didn't know courts didn't honor prenups
It's not so much that courts won't honor them, it's that there are a lot of t's to be crossed and a lot of i's to be dotted if they're going to be considered valid, and one issue can get the whole thing thrown out. Then there's the matter of subjectivity and interpretation. There's a lot of variability from place to place, but an example of something I've already cautioned my girl about is after I propose she can't announce the engagement or book a venue or any of that until after the agreement is negotiated. Reason being, let's say we get engaged, we set a date, and book a venue for a year out, then we go hammer out the prenup, and a few months later we get married. Then, maybe a decade later, we get divorced. She can then cry to the judge that since she signed it after she had already booked a venue and announced the engagement, she signed it under duress, and it gets thrown out. That's just one example of how it can go wrong.

A lot of people think you can just have a lawyer draw up a prenup with your demands and stipulations, hand it to your fiance and be like "sign this or we're not getting marred" and you're good to go, and that's simply not the case; that would get thrown out every time, and that's probably for the best. Main reason being any prenup worth anything is a bipartisan affair where both parties have their own lawyers meticulously go over every detail and consideration.

One of the many, many, MANY reasons I'd never be a California resident is Barry Bonds' prenup fucked over his gold digger of an ex so hard CA changed it's laws to the point where it's legitimately difficult to put together a valid prenup in the state.';

'>>33031569
Oh hell if I know, I'm hardly an expert on Socrates. Could be a complete fabrication, still an absolute banger of a line. Kind of like how it wasn't Voltaire who said "to learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" but that doesn't change the fact that it's 100% true.';

'>>33031535
So when you do it it's observing, when I did it it's biased, assumptive, and cunty. You're still a hypocrite no matter which way you shift it. Although I'll give you credit for admitting your feelings got hurt and that was why you had to respond the way you did.
I brought it up originally because you mentioned her concerns, and I pointed out some reasons why a woman might be concerned. yes, usually when people are afraid they're afraid of people being shitty. I didn't know that was news. it wasn't meant to be personal. You asked for reasons she MIGHT be worried, so I answered. It's that simple. when you ask a question like that, it's pretty relevant for quite a few woman. Not everything has to be about you. Fears are rarely LITERALLY about the other person and usually more based on our own observations or past experiences. You even point this out with her. She's worried her clock will run out before you get together. it was also why I brought it up, a lot of men get cold feet because they don't actually have plans to settle until they feel like it, and never actually communicate that. I don't know you and I'm not going to assume, however 90% of people men and women suck at communicating and will intentionally avoid such conversations, hence why I brought it up. I think it's shitty, and worth calling out. I wasn't doing it because I literally thought it applied to you, more you asked for advice and I cast as broad a net as possible, and figured you could clarify if it didn't apply... without calling me a cunt and stooping to a woman's level by getting your panties in a bunch.
>>33031584
this actually was quite informative and I appreciate that. I personally thought it was quite common for people to go to a lawyer to get such things written out. I also didn't know how easy it was to denounce. harsh. sadly the courts are fucked with a lot of things. I wonder if it also varies state by state as well?';

'>>33031584
if you dont have a prenup, are pre-marital assets protected by default? can you literally have 5m, marry someone, earn 200k, and then divrce, and they get half of the 5m?';

'>>33028681
>>33031030
>>33031698
you should have just conceded the point and apologized for calling the guy stupid. he's been nothing but reasonable.
he's absolutely right that you look like an asshole.';

'>>33031722
I doubt you have more than a single working brain cell in your head to come to that conclusion or feel the need to comment, I think I'll pass on taking your words to heart.';

'>>33031698
>your feelings got hurt
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. You called me stupid, which I registered as you trying to be hurtful. I never said you succeeded.
>a lot of men get cold feet because they don't actually have plans to settle until they feel like it
There's an anon who posts ITT that says something like "women fake orgasms, men fake relationships." What a fucking tool... but where's the lie? Also, Devil's Advocate, but for most men what's the alternative? Company is great, so is pussy, but most women aren't marriage material. They just aren't. It's easy for me to say I don't mislead women about my intentions, but I don't really have to.
>calling me a cunt
FINE. I retract that bit about you being a cunt, it certainly didn't help anything. I am fresh out of olive branches, btw.';

'>>33031830
I mean, if a man need to stoop to manipulation to keep a woman around or have pussy, he's trash. I don't fault men for not wanting to marry. I fault them for leading women on to benefit from them. Just as I would fault any woman who manipulates the men around her. Trying to point out most women aren't marriage material is irrelevant, and certainly not valid justification for men doing trash things.
For the record I agree, most women are not marriage material and they are certainly not entitled to it. I just don't think that particularly matters in terms of actual garbage behavior men do, especially the immoral ones. For the further record, I am not referring to women being stupid and assuming a man will marry them and being upset it doesn't happen. I am directly referring to the actual dog behaviors shit some men do.
It's not hard to get women to be around and give up pussy. Resorting to unethical shit is a skill issue, as well as a moral value issue. You don't get to call out women and then defend men's shitty behaviors.
only last comment is the stupid part was intended as an observation. if I wanted to insult you, I would of put a lot more effort. I do agree I'm abrasive for sure.';

'>>33031698
>this actually was quite informative and I appreciate that
Anytime!
>I personally thought it was quite common for people to go to a lawyer to get such things written out
Not nearly as common as you think. With concerning regularity I watch guys with a lot of money go into marriage with nothing more than the best intentions and a prayer. A big part of it is, many women get offended at the idea of a prenup. Now, to me, that is the red flag to end all red flags, but when you're in love it can be hard to see when you're being manipulated, as you yourself brought up. I don't just mean gold diggers, I think most women, especially when they're dating guys with money have every intention of making the marriage work, but in the back of their head they're kind of like "...but just in case, I don't want to deny myself the ability to take him to the cleaners." I think this is true in most cases, even though they'd never admit it, maybe not even to themselves.

To me, it's like any other kind of insurance; it wouldn't even occur to me to not have it, and it should in all honesty probably be required. There's a reason most credible churches won't marry a couple without pre-marital counseling. That said, it's easy for me to have this kind of take on it, because I attach no sentiment, no bullshit to it. Marriage is a means to secure assets and property and build the framework of a family, nothing more; the fact that it makes my girl happy and she gets excited about it is a bonus. You often here people talk about "what marriage means to them/you/etc" when I think it's far more important to recognize what marriage simply is. People place way too much stock in how they feel about things, but when court is in session, nobody gives a shit.
>I wounder if it also varies state by state
It does. If you ever decide to get married I strongly advise you to buy a few hours of time with a lawyer, just to get informed.';

'>>33031872
Oh no trust me I'm already married and this has already been done. I never knew a lot of women don't like the idea of prenup. I was the one who told my husband to get it, and convinced his parents to find us a lawyer to discuss all of it. He was fine without it, but I am a firm believer in us having both of our assets and being safe as an "in case". some people never show their true colors until much later, and even if you hope for til death do us part, people can change very quickly. like I said, I genuinely figured it was common enough knowledge. It's pretty clear it isn't now that you pointed it out, but that was definitely a bias on my part.';

'>>33031856
Oh, I'm not defending unethical behavior, I'm just saying I understand it. Also, I live in the western world, specifically the USA; women are at the bottom of my list when it's time to worry about who is being treated fairly. The other thing is I think... trashy men, and trashy women have an uncanny knack for finding one another, and neither one wants to admit it.

>>33031708
Again, depends on where you live. Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington, and Wisconsin are all "community property" states, where by default any assets acquired during the marriage are split 50/50. I'll repeat what I said before, if any man is considering marriage, it behooves him to invest in a few hours of time with an expert, just so he understands what he's getting into and how to properly structure a prenup.

I'll also say this, never underestimate the power of a crying woman. Not anywhere, and certainly not in a court room. A prenup is something you never want to have to rely on. If you don't feel stupid for bothering with it, you're marrying the wrong woman.';

'>>33031482
>I assured her that unless she gives me a reason to reconsider, I'm likely going to propose before the end of the year.
Good on you for giving her a timeline. Do note though that if you don't go through with the end of year timeline, she may decide she's done waiting and move on.';

'>>33031889
Well I mean you only know your own life, right? Also, kudos on having the correct attitude about prenups. I think a lot of dudes have this idea where prenups are how you render a woman powerless and... that's not really a thing. Nor should it be. To me, the entire prenup is to establish expectations and agree to a course of action in a worst-case scenario, devoid of bias or emotion, and without leaving it up to a judge's discretion. Can you imagine how many nasty divorces could have been avoided over the years if the parties involved had taken an afternoon or two to actually talk about what their expectations were?

I don't mean to rant but it just blows my mind that people get married without prenups. If you can't come to terms on a prenup, that's a really good indicator that you have no business getting married. I mean, I get why women tend to not care, as let's be honest women tend to make out OK for themselves in most divorces, but like as a man... you have to know the risks. It's that word, accountability again. We live in the age of social media, there is no excuse to not know just how costly divorce can be. I understand someone women will take offense/act offended at the idea of a prenup, but what's that other word? Communication. A man has to be able to communicate why it's important and take his woman out of the emotional framework of it. If she won't come around, red flag.

The way I explained my insistence on a prenup to my girl was "I'm not trying to take anything from you, I'm trying to guarantee myself and you certain things, not the least of which is if we don't work out, no matter the circumstances, you don't have to start over at zero, and starting over won't take forever."';

'>>33014831
>I'm into men's asses so that sounds like a great time, if anything.

I've actually met a number of women that adore eating man ass. I never really understood it. I mean, if it turns you on, go for it. I guess I just don't understand the wellspring from which that arousal comes from. Is it just the act of complete subservience?';

'>>33031913
It's not about being worried about women in particular, it's I think it's always important to call out unethical behavior and protect people from shitty treatment. It's being human, and women are not exempt from that. That's just my stance on being a decent human, you're free to not prioritize morals if that's your desire. I don't think where you live matters to this either. It's not a feminist idea in the slightest, and trying to reduce it as such is silly. If we allow unethical shit regardless who is the victim that also leads to a slippery slope of enabling shit just because of details such as who is the victim.... which hey, weren't you the one speaking out against enabling and advocating for accountability?
I don't agree with trashy men and trashy women having a knack for finding one another. I mean, yes, that is the case sometimes, but as someone who used to work with both genders in domestic violence cases I'd argue shitty people just go after whoever is vulnerable, regardless of gender. Domestic violence (whether it be mental/emotional, sexual, physical, or a mix) is pretty common in general in the states.';

'>>33031929
Bro, I already have the time, place, and ring picked out. Can't give away the game though. Girls like romantic shit.

And yeah, that's basically what she wanted. She wasn't trying to pressure me into proposing, but more of a good faith agreement that I'm not just killing time with her. She was actually really sweet and said she could consider not getting married, but she really wants kids, to which I told her if I'm willing to knock her up (which I am) I'm willing to marry her.

That's the thing though, all this talk about divorce, and alimony, and all that shit, and sure I want to avoid all that, but my greatest fear? Parental alienation. I think it's the fact that I don't think she's capable of that is why I'm willing to take a chance on her.

Still doesn't change the fact that as society we need to do way better when it comes to upholding the sanctity of marriage and families.';

'>>33031944
I agree. I think prenups are important. It's why I disagreed with you about marriages. because I had my expectations of prenups and dealing with the legal stuff before the marriage, that leaves a lot of room for marriage being what you make of it, because that component is a lot less of an issue.
I don't know if I agree with women tending to make out okay for themselves. Both parties have risks with different contexts. I've seen lots of women agree to being stay at home moms and getting screwed given specific context that goes with that, or men having more legal knowledge and using that to screw a woman over. the system is based on who can manipulate further most of the time, and that can be either gender. I do agree depending on the case (and the judge) some women can have a leg up especially with tears.... but I've actively also worked in cases where the judge was on probation for domestic violence so that's not always the case. I assume where a person lives, especially the state, matters. I also don't know why you mention taking the women out of emotional frame work? Not every woman is as emotional as you're trying to imply, nor is every man so logical. I mean you were the one who got offended earlier and resorted to insults because you didn't like how I worded my points earlier. I just don't agree with women or men being a monolith I suppose, given the variables and the differences in individuals I met over the years. Just because your woman and you exclusively attract that type doesn't really mean much given how big the planet it.';

'>>33031948
So is it true lesbians beat on each other more than anyone else?';

'>>33031963
I don't know about "more", but it absolutely is an issue. Most people falsely perceive domestic violence as essentially needing a "masculine" figure (not to be confused with male, but more a power dynamic where someone is in clear advantage, physically or socially), so when it's two small petite women that sends a lot of the procedures into whack. there's also the issue with gay men in that it's often seen less as domestic violence and more of a brawl unless one of them is more "feminine". Gets even further muddied when you throw trannies in the mix.';

'>>33031962
>Not every woman is as emotional as you're trying to imply
I'm not trying to imply everything. I'm saying that in the context of that specific scenario, that is to say, a woman getting upset at the idea of signing a prenup, I'm saying the goal is take the emotion out of it.

Emotion being the reason for indignation is actually the favorable interpretation, because the other reason to oppose a prenup is because she's a gold digger.
>judge was on probation for domestic violence
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes, indeed.
>who got offended
I wasn't offended. I simply recognized at attempt at offending.
>resorted to insults
Not my best moment, as I already admitted. I just got a vibe from you, and I have no idea how accurate the vibe is, but we all make judgments, that you're one of those women who makes a point of being, as you say, abrasive.';

'>>33031972
>not to be confused with male
But often confused as such all the same, as I'm sure you're aware.';

'>>32995508
It upsets women because when its discussed in the manosphere it is:
1. to justify demeening women/misogyny
2. Highly exaggerated
I wouldnt say Guts is even about that. Breakups are hard, getting over someone is hard. That doesnt mean she will be hung up on him forever, after all in her last album she was singing about some totally different guy.
I do believe the theory has a lot of credit btw, some guys you date do stick with you forever, but I think it has less to do with his sexual status and more the formative experiences. I have 2 stories I could share about guys I cant get over, 1 who was practically the definition of a beta. And when listening to Olivia's lyrics, it sounds more like shes attached to this guys memory because she felt used and it was traumatic. Not because he was a high value man. When I heard Vampire the first time I immediately thought about the guy who groomed me at 14. He made in impression because the relationship was traumatic, not because hes a chad she still thirsts for';

'>>33031979
I've seen it go both ways. I've seen effeminate men presumed they can't be abusers because of such, as well as cases where a small woman "can't" be an abuser because of it.';

'ok, I am looking for the eye photos now. If I see an eye photo, it's a girl who submitted to me.';

'>>33031913
i was asking about pre-marital assets, not acquired during the marriage.';

'>>33031994
>to justify demeening women/misogyny
The problem is "misogyny" is a word that gets thrown around a lot, and not nearly as much as an argument as it is to shut an argument down. Criticism of anything women do, or anything even women adjacent is often painted as misogyny. At this point mainstream feminism is less about empowering women, and more about controlling men. Granted, you have idiots like F&F and Whatever who do exactly what you're talking about, but I also think it's absurd to paint any platform/voice that discusses male dating advice, evolutionary biology, evolutionary psych, etc. as misogynistic.
>Highly exaggerated
Eh... not in my experience, but hey, we've both got our truths.
>Olivia's lyrics
To me she comes off as very pretentious. If she's got that many toxic exes at her age, she's likely the problem, or at least part of it. She definitely comes off as a 21 year old girl who has never been checked because of how pretty she is. But hey, even Taylor had to put some miles on her soul before we got 1989; I can't begrudge a 21 y/o for being a 21 y/o.
>the guy who groomed me at 14
How old was he and where the fuck were your parents?

>>33032351
Still, check your local laws. In general, if you brought it into the marriage, you can expect to leave with it. I want to emphasize I am not a lawyer, just a guy who knows the value in paying an expert.';

'>>33029895
I've only gotten a few blowjobs but it just didn't feel good, usually it's a bit of teeth and lack of skills despite them claiming they're good at it, only other time I remember was when someone took me into their throat and it felt unpleasant, it was oddly hard and stiff. Also every time I've gotten head their mouth was freezing compared to my dick, I dunno if I just have a high body temperature or what.

I still have hope I just haven't met the right woman, but it might just be that I hate blowjobs.';

'Femanons,

From 1-10 how much do you like being eaten out?
Also for comparison, from 1-10 how much do you like being fucked?';

'How do you guys feel about dating a fat girl that's actively losing weight or a former fat girl?';

'>>33035023
I'm more concerned about it from a health perspective than a visual one. So long as her weight loss is making progress, I don't think I'd have any issues. Zero issues with formerly fat people, considering I am one.';

'>>33018866
The * indicates I am very fond of it

Smacking ass*
Slapping body
Slapping face
Restraining arms behind you*
Restraining legs*
Pulling hair*
Grabbing breasts*
Light choking*
Heavy choking*
Pushing head into bed/couch/ground with hand*
Biting
Putting fingers in mouth
Contorting your body in different positions*
Folding you in half for missionary*
Sticking a finger in your ass*
Intentional balls deep slamming* (if you aren't too big)
Laying full weight on you*
Cumming in your mouth
Cumming on your body (ass/tits/stomach/back)
Cumming in you*
Cock slapping on your vagina*
Cock slapping on your face/tongue
Cock slapping on your body
Rubbing tip of dick on clitoris*';

'>>33030517
>>33030533
Well you probably won’t see this reply but it’s pretty simple. Male anatomy uses pressure that builds up in the balls to pump cum out. It’s not like peeing where gravity can simply make it happen.
So pressure builds in the balls and they swell a tiny bit during sex, and when you cum the pressure is released. That’s why you can’t do it on command';

'Also I like how ATOGA is the worst thread on adv at the moment but the best thread on soc';

'>>33035023
How fat are we talking? Either way, good on you for putting in the work.

>>33035420
In another time, another place, we'd have had a lot of fun.';

'>talking with girl I matched with on Hinge for a month or so
>from my state but is in college out of state
>we play games a lot
>talk on the phone, one time for 4 hours
>say good morning and good night to each other
>she said she likes talking to me
>planning a date when she comes back after her semester is over
>get a text last night when I was asleep
>"dylannnn what's up"
>my name isn't Dylan
>it was sent at 2am
It's so fucking over, isn't it?';

'>>33030563
>>33030569
Edging increasing the size of your load is completely made up nonsense, I myself have hundreds of time went with it but that's just because it's hot, for example the girl is edging you or commanding you to edge and she tells you "keep edging and make a nice big load for me" I just like it because it turns me on but that would be akin saying "I'm gonna impregnate your ass", it's just something you go with because it's hot.
I edged myself plenty of times and sometimes it did happen that I came more than usual but that's quite probably because I was so turned on and it felt so good that my cock twitched for a few more seconds and so it pushed out more cum, but there's also been a lot of times I edged myself for half an hour and the same amount of cum as normal or even less came out.';

'>>32992441
Girls, do you ever post "looking for fucked up fetish"-style comments, or are all those from females (male)?';

'>>32992441
I'm attracted to a specific kind of woman. Around 2-5 years older (that'd be roughly mid to late 20s), confident, and generally masculine.
I want to be clear that I'm using masculine in a narrow sense. I don't mean "muscular women" (though I won't pretend that isn't appealing), or butch women, but women who embody a sort of masculine character and feel. I apologize if that's inspecific or hard to understand, but hopefully it makes sense. It feels very nice being told to "come here", or having them order for me without asking, or the thing where they put their hand behind the seat when theyre reversing. I dunno.
I generally like taking on more "feminine" roles and appearances and stuff, but I'm also aware that it's offputting to a lot of people, so I tend to avoid it unless it's well-established someone is into that, or if it's at an event or cosplay thing.
Generally, I don't tend to find myself attractive, but i can at least feign general confidence, and I'm not afraid of social interaction. I've had people interested/obsessed with me (that last one is much more of a negative, but I won't go into my personal troubles and possible safety issues here). Generally normies, or normie-adjacent people with some mental illnesses but still primarily get their personality from "i like tiktok" and little else. So even if it's hard for me to accept, it doesnt seem like personality or attractiveness is an issue. Most of my friends are girls, if that means anything (I still do have guy friends, though).
It's great that people are interested in me, often exceedingly so, but It's not really the type of people Im interested in, and while I won't pretend to not like the simpler pleasures life offers, It's not really what I want.
Is there anything I should be doing to appeal to/attract this kind of person? I know it varies based on the girl, and I don't want to do "pickup artist bullshit", but I feel this sort of situation is specific enough to warrant asking. Thanks :)';

'>>33035023
Feel alright. I think I could see myself falling for somewhat chubby girl, so it's not that big of a deal for me. Don't think a fat one would be attractive to me (unless I'm really-really-really into them as a person) even if she's actively working towards stop being this way. Good of them though.
>>33035507
How bad it is there currently?';

'Men, does it feel good to have the visible veins on your penir licked?

>>33036119
I did years ago, stopped posting there because 4channers are boring fucktards
>>33036275
>I generally like taking on more "feminine" roles and appearances and stuff
What kind of feminine appearance do you mean?';

'>>33036919
>Men, does it feel good to have the visible veins on your penis licked?
Don't have experience with licking, but touching the veins feels no different from touching anywhere else. That being said, all of it feels good.';

'>>33036935
Why did you rewrite what I said instead of copy pasting it';

'>>33036946
I didn't?';

'>>33036919
Having any part of my dick licked is going to feel good. I don't think the veins are especially sensitive, but I bet the image is hot.';

'men: if you had to choose, would you prefer a girl with clear skin but an unattractive face or a girl with bad skin (that cant be fully fixed) but otherwise has an attractive face? is clear skin not one of the most important requirements in finding a girl attractive? does bad skin make you feel uncomfortable?';

'>>33036969
I guess it depends on what you mean by bad. Got any pictures of similar girls for example? Generally speaking, I'm a fan of little "imperfections," like freckles, scars, moles, stretch marks, anything like that. So it'd need to be pretty bad for me to mind, I think.';

'>>33036987
my skin at its worst looked similar to the left pic and my skin now looks similar to the right pic, i still get occasional minor breakouts but never as bad as the left pic anymore. no matter how perfect i am with my skincare and diet i still have shitty genetics and cant fully control it
(just clarifying pic isnt me)';

'>>33037031
Yeah this wouldn't bother me at all. Barely even noticeable from my perspective. Plus, sounds like you're doing your best to look the best you can, which is admirable.';

'>>33036919

Does it feel good?!?

A woman needs only to just stare at my dick intensely enough for it to feel good!';

'>>33036919
>Men, does it feel good to have the visible veins on your penir licked?
Yeah, but not by more than a non-veined part of my dick in a similar location. If you messed with the vein enough, I'd probably notice, though. If you complimented how hot it was, I think it'd make most guys very happy though.
>what kind of feminine appearance?
For what I normally wear, you mean?
Well, it depends. I like going full dresses and stuff like that, but I rarely do that for reasons you can imagine. I do cosplay "feminine" male or nonbinary characters.
I range from the "twink" to "girl" end of the spectrum. Sometimes, i'll wear shorts with leggings, sometimes i'll wear full on girl clothes (some of my shirts are girl-cut, also). Usually i'll put on basic makeup if I'm doing either. Usually, I'm more on the "twink" end of the spectrum. Sometimes i'll put on tight jeans and a shirt with makeup, but usually it's some combination of jeans, tight jeans, black pants, black shirt, purple shirts, or white/black/band shirts with a red/black plaid overshirt. Sometimes I'll also wear a faux-blood necklace I got a spirit some time ago because I think it looks nice. I think the closest I get to masculine is looser jeans and shirts, or v-necks or red/black plaid shirts.
I also have long hair, and I also apparently fail the gaydar test, so that usually means even in "normal-ish" clothes, i don't exactly look like a traditional dude (or sometimes, even a dude at all), so it makes sense. I'm a winter too, if that helps.
>tldr: twink clothes mostly, sometimes i'll crossdress. If i'm crossdressing i'll wear makeup, and i'll wear makeup rarely in twink clothes too.
If you mean what I'd LIKE to do, probably more full-on girl clothes and effeminate appeals. I generally like darker stuff (black, silver, the blood vial thing, etc). But generally, as long as it's cute, i'm not fussed as long as it's not barbie-style, 1950s housewife, or "sissy" stuff. Being better at makeup would also be good';

'Women, if a guy seems like he's been actively working on himself but avoids questions about his past, is that off putting? I'm was never the online version of an incel, but I haven't been in a relationship in ages so I can't stand being asked about past experiences. "GF in high school. Hooked up five times over the past ten years. You?"

>>33035023
Completely depends on her attitude. I went on my first date in ages recently and was supremely let down to find out she was not just a little obese. She said she was working on it, but she constantly mentioned loving snacking and wanting to bake more breads and create huge charcuterie boards and seemed like a general stay-at-home type of person. If she was skinnier, didn't mention her love of eating, or really hit home that she wanted to work on it, I was not physically attracted to her but I knew I could be. It really hurt because everything other than that was great and it felt awesome to be desired for the first time in ages, but I want to work on my weight and take it super seriously for a few months. She seemed happy to let fall off as it happens.

>>33036919
Doesn't really make a difference. I do like it when she focuses on that main spine at the bottom/back though

>>33036969
Rough skin will not make me lose interest in a woman, but if I only saw her that one time I might be less inclined to find her attractive initially.';

'What's the /atoga/ discord server? Are there available(single) gfs there? I would like a gf.';

'Any girls wanna help me get laid on tinder? Anyone into the idea of controlling my tinder for me? Discord is chocolateintheair
Women only pls, the thought of a guy helping isn't very fun to me
Pls?';

'>>33038947
Ugh';

'>>33038947
>the thought of a guy helping isn't very fun to me
Don't ask a fish how to catch more fish.
Ask a successful fisherman.';

'>>33039649
the reason he doesn't want the help of a man isn't because women are more helpful. The reason he wants a woman to do it is because he's using it for fetish-purposes and trying to trick someone into thinking that it's normal and just him needing help.';

'How do I understand men?';

'>>33039724
You don't.';

'>>33039724
talking to more men would probably be a closer start';

'>>33039724
understand that everything that they say and do is lovebombing and at some point they will pull it all away in order to control you and get you hooked (because dopamine crash). men use this controlling and manipulation technique to gain something from you, which is usually sex, admiration, devotion, ego boost, could be material things, etc., because now in your affected and unstable brain that he caused, are the thoughts of how to make him “love” you like in the beginning, which is why you go to such extremes and do basically anything for him. my advice? stay celibate for the rest of your life and find good women friends that will be better company than any man ever can.';

'>>33038947
If you need help with Tinder, it's not for you.

>>33039649
This.

>>33039652
And this.

>>33039724
In what sense?

>>33039740
Tell me that the only thing you have to offer is pussy without telling me that the only thing you have to offer is pussy: the post.
>in your affected and unstable brain that he caused
Stop externalizing. No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
>the thoughts of how to make him "love" you like in the beginning, which is why you go to such extremes and do basically anything for him
Treat me like a king, I'll treat you like a pawn. I genuinely wonder if you've ever known a relationship based on mutual respect. Stop going all-in on men who see you as an option. Stop exclusively chasing the top 20% of men. I promise you there's a dork in your life who isn't very exciting and probably makes less than $60K a year, but he'd appreciate you.
>find good women friends that will be better company than any man ever can
If all you care about is being told you're right and having your self-destructive behavior validated and reinforced, then sure.';

'>>33040095
that’s the point, the men i’m referring were your beloved “dorky autists” and here we are. all men know is how to take, but never give back. i’ve given everything emotionally, physically and financially to these nerds for it to never be reciprocated in the slightest. and your gaslighting that everything is always the victims fault just proved my point as that’s what you all do lol';

'>>33039724

It depends on the individual but take in consideration a couple of things:

1. The culture that they grew up in, what defines a "man" and if they try to follow that definition (or at the very least not be labeled as something else).

2. The biological characteristics of a guy, particularly testosterone and how it fuels things like aggression, sex-drive, protectiveness, territorial, etc. It might sound ridiculous but all humans are at the mercy of being affected by chemicals, hormones, and subsequently emotions even if it isn't rational.

3. Their personal motivations, aspirations, and goals-- why they act like x in order to achieve y.';

'>>33040242
>all men know is how to take, but never give back
And women are any better?
>i've given everything emotionally, physically and financially to these nerds for it to never be reciprocated in the slightest
OK, let's just assume that's true. Why would you abide that dynamic? Why would you continue to reward undesirable behavior with the things they desire? I'm not asking you this to shame you, I'm asking this as someone who found himself in one toxic relationship after another until I looked inward to explore why, and I encourage you to do the same. Or just keep telling yourself you're perfect, and that your approach to relationships is infallible; things won't get better, but there's never a shortage of voices ready to tell a woman what she wants to hear.
>gaslighting
Ah the buzzword du jour for armchair psychiatrists. I'm not gaslighting you. Here's the thing, healthy, mutually beneficial and fulfilling relationships exists. There's plenty of living proof. Therefore, the fact that your relationships have all ended poorly means that you're dating the wrong men, you're not the catch you think you are, or both.
>just proved my point as that's what you all do lol
The "lol" was a nice touch. Anyway, you seem pretty susceptible to confirmation bias. It's the weirdest thing, I get big time incel vibes from you; you remind me of those guys that are convinced that all women are superficial whores, blind to the fact that they're not the "nice" guys they imagine themselves to be. Likewise, you claim everything men say and do is "lovebombing" yet you, by your own admission, give "everything emotionally, physically and financially" to partners who aren't meeting your expectations... it's almost as though you're trying to make them feel obligated to reciprocate. Someone should come up with a term for that.
>always the victims fault
You're not a victim, you're just a woman who has terrible taste in men, and doesn't know how to establish or respect boundaries.';

'>>33040095
I am going to point out just because a man is a dork or an autist doesn't mean he's a good man, as someone who exclusively goes for both. most people are shit, including both men and women.';

'Men, please stop liking evil women';

'>>33041351
All women are evil';

'>>33041355
nice excuse';

'>>33041351
Where do I find a good one?';

'>>33039724
Men like to be fed and fucked by attractive women. And we like to solve problems and be useful to people we care about.

That’s basically it.';

'>>33020940
Because feminism has degraded our entire existance. Now start sucking and don't stop until Daddy tells you to.';

'>>33036919
>4channers are boring fucktards
Like, boring in the fetish-department, or as people in general?';

'Am I seriously just redeemably ugly?';

'>>33020940
>Men, why does degrading women turn you on?
Because some men are genuinely so low that they need to self-assert by dominating someone, even if this person is a submissive woman who's physically weaker than him and doesn't even try to fight back as she enjoys it.';

'>>33040449
>I am going to point out just because a man is a dork or an autist doesn't mean he's a good man
I wish this didn't have to spelled out explicitly, but it probably does, and I'm glad you did. My point isn't that all shy/introverted/awkward men are inherently virtuous, my point is that people, men and women, often make the mistake of chasing what excites us to the exclusion of all other things. The thing is, there's nothing inherently wrong with the things that excite us, I would actually consider excitement, engagement, passion to be essential to a relationship's long term success... but only so long as that excitement is attached to something, or someone, that's good for us.

When it comes to that femanon with the chip on her shoulder, what sticks out to me is the bit about putting everything into people who aren't giving enough back; to me, that's irreconcilable with self-respect. Which is... kind of important to have in dating, and in life.

>>33041351
But I can fix her!

>>33041355
How do you figure?

>>33041488
There's an elegance to the simplicity of this statement.

>>33041496
>Because feminism has degraded our entire existance
Male suicides are at an all time high, more than half of women are on brain-altering drugs, but there are people who will say we've progressed. I don't think it's fair to lay all this on feminism, especially the first and second waves. The third wave is where they lost the script, and the fourth wave is where the script was rewritten to where the ideology is now explicitly anti-male, anti-natalist, anti-capitalist, and anti-western in it's rhetoric.

I think the core of all of society's woes and decline is that we've, and please forgive excessive use of the phrase, lost the script on what's important. Things won't get better until the destruction of the nuclear family is reversed. You don't have to have a family, but in a society where the family doesn't matter it's like nothing feels real anymore.';

'>>33042244
you look like a chad';

'>>33042244
you look like a brad';

'i am a 28 year old loner dude who's never had a girlfriend. because of responsibilites, i've never had the time to date and hence never paid any attention to grooming or trying to look good. as a result women dgaf about me on dating apps, which i started using recently. i know my attractiveness level is way way below average

i dont want to fucking hit 30 and still be a permasingle socially awkward slob. but i dont see a decrease in my workload either.

should i try to date someone now? that most likely involves me paying attention to grooming, working out in the gym to becoming fitter, becoming more fashionable etc to get at an average guy's level. these are massive tasks for me, which is be hard for normal people to comprehend. should i put this effort in for potentially nothing in return? should i just give up and focus on work and trying to earn more money? would like an honest answer';

'>>33042343
I definitely agree it SHOULD be obvious, but I can't tell you how often that mistake is made and people too often don't understand that being too beta/cowardly to do anything "bad" is very different from having the virtue to be a kind and decent person.
I definitely agree with the comment about feminism, too. I identify as feminist on a personal level but can never say that out loud lest I be confused with third or fourth wave retards who belong in the kitchen.
>>33042244
you're not ugly but you do definitely look depressed and stressed out.';

'>>33042343
>How do you figure?
I'm convinced at this point that they're incapable of loving men, and any who claim to love men only love the things men do for them.';

'>>33042244
Just lose weight and you'll be at least a 7';

'>>33039724

what is there not to understand?';

'I'm finally going on vacation to Europe (namely Denmark, Germany, Poland, Czechia, Austria and Italy) and I plan fucking moids in every of those countries. Men, how much of a slut I am?';

'>>32992955
I have acute oblique nasal plate & dont trust docs here enough to let them fix it not to mention no $ since I quit my job 6 months ago';

'>>33044652
That's gross.';

'>>33044652
I wouldn't call you a slut necessarily, but it does seem careless. Please take STDs more seriously, anon!';

'>>33044652
nice try AGP. a woman who actually sleeps around wouldn't frame them as moids then ask men how much of a slut they are. they know when they're considered one or not, and if they cared what men think they wouldn't do it.
you're disgusting, but not for the reasons you think.';

'>>33044652
>I plan fucking moids in every of those countries.
I plan to be one of them.';

'Why does breast density vary? I mean, I know it relates to bmi, age, hormones, etc., but why does it change mechanically? Is the fat tissue denser? If so, why? Or is it about collagen and milk ducts or something?
Sorry if this sounds like 7th grade bullshit questions. I never had sex Ed and while I know more than most men do, this isn't really the kind of thing you can look up without getting porn results.';

'>>33044652
You can come to netherlands and fuck a polish guy in netherlands';

'I bought a dildo for the first time but it literally won't go in. It's only 6 inches, wtf';

'>>33035023
Its great that you put in effort and i would support you and help you with exercise since im a gymrat myself

But secretly i would also want you to keep as big of ass as possible so you would be doing squats, hip thrusts and bulgarian split squats forever';

'>>33047362
But is it too thick or it wont go "all in"';

'>>33047368
It literally won't go in at all. It can't be too thick, I ordered the average one that's good for beginners';

'>>33047362
The length doesn't have much to do with it going in or not, that's more of a girth issue. Are you properly getting yourself worked up ahead of time, and using lube?';

'>>33047413
No I don't have any lube and I thought I was worked up but I guess not';

'>>33047434
Vaginas can take a surprising amount of foreplay before they're ready to accommodate larger insertions. Especially in your case since you aren't used to them. There may also be some underlying anxiety going on that's inadvertently making things tighter down there.
Lube isn't technically necessary, but it makes the process smoother since it doesn't rely on your natural wetness. Without it you're gonna need to get yourself pretty aroused.';

'How does one obtain high libido girlfriend?

Are chubby or thicker girls more likely to have a puffy innie due to fat storing around hip and thigh area';

'>>33022438
I want to gently kiss your chest!';

'am i ugly?';

'>>33048348
You need to get lean, you have decent face its just hidden by facial chub

T. Male';

'>>33048348
lets see a no glasses version';

'>>33048348
Good afternoon that would be more attractive with some improvements. Contacts or maybe just a better style of frames. Trim up the facial hair, get a styled haircut because your hair is really nice just looks pretty meh. So not ugly, just looking slightly unkempt and like you don't put any effort into yourself.

I guess getting lean would help but that has tons of other benefits, too. Fitness is amazing therapy for self-confidence. Usually, unless you have or develop BDD';

'>>33042244
Wanted a follow up. Laying down so looks like less face fat. How bad is my face? Asking girls. I've never seen a out of shape guy with a girl recently. Is being skinny or fit that major of a factor now or is my face just that horrible that no one wants to be around me?';

'>>33048769
You look fairly average to me, like your face isn't deformed. Fitness helps your mentality so much more then just looking more attractive. That is a side effect, though. It shows discipline and that you care about yourself. That's always attractive. I don't think the main focus should be to get attention, just enjoy that as a byproduct. But yeah, you look alright to me. Maybe smile more in photos. This is such an improvement from the other post. Cute average white guy/10';

'>>33047960
Look for horny women.
And fatter women are more likely to be puffy, but there's no guarantee of an innie.
>>33047962
That would be extremely painful.';

'>>33049049
For you.';

'>>33049049
I have problems finding the horny women
They seem to suppress it usually
Until we get to talk in private / dms';

'>>32998321
F here, i hardly shave my pubic hair, i don't have much or little. i like pubic hair in men, but if the man i am in love shaves his pubic hair i would still find him very attractive anyway, i think it is not a relevant detail';

'>>33049148
I generally trim everything to sides and above shaft, and shave everything on dick and balls itself

I dont mind some hair on a girl, a little bit above is hot, especially if she has thin and light hair, but if its a LOT around labias etc i kinda prefer when its not there, gets stuck in the teeth';

'>at campus
>go grab a coffee
>see a freshman girl crying
>buy her some hot chocolate
>forget change and get into class
>remember the change
>go and get it
>some other girls are about to use the machine
>smile and ask her "do you mind?"
>tell them i had forgoten the change
>say thanks and leave for class
>go away with them gigling

I dont get it, what was so funny about it?';

'>>32992441
Question for females:
What would you think if the guy you've been dating doesn't have any friends aside from work buddies and some acquaintances?
Like, I'm in my mid 20's, have a decent job and study online in order to get a bachelor's degree.
While I still live with my parents I'm not a manchild, but pretty responsible overall, the thing is that I have few to none friends, not to mention I barely use social media.
So, what would you think of a guy that doesn't have any friends?';

'Women, are you submissive and breedable?';

'I need advice, so there's this girl I like and she's a feminist, she's shared with me tons of times how she likes being independent and how she doesn't need a man. We talk to each other a lot and we've been getting kinda flirty. Recently I dropped her off at her house and I thought to myself, "man this day is going so good, oh yeah don't forget to carry her bags and walk her to the door, wait she wants to be independent if I carry her bags and walk her to the door I'm just babying her and she doesn't want that." So I decided to do nothing and now she's pissed at me for not helping her. What should I do? If I carry her stuff for her she isn't independent and I'm coddling her but if I don't carry her stuff I'm an asshole. I really like her and don't want to waste my relationship over a couple bags please help me.

I'm a male.';

'>>33051749
I'm a man and you should do what you have to do, doesn't matter what ideas she has. There is a "feminist" in my class too and she might talk about some things some times but she likes help like everyone does. Don't overthink it do your male thing.';

'Why do women like showing off their asses on pictures? And why do you like being choked I find it very weird that you like such extreme things.';

'>>33052092
thanks anon :)';

'>>33045222
Er women? What’s this';

'>>33052099
Most poses that show off your ass also are more dynamic, they display your waist and hips and general shape better than just a full frontal usually would cause you're like, kinda twisting yk, plus asses are kinda considered a little less slutty? Like if i take a pic sticking my tits out, squeezing them tigether whatever i seem like way more of a bimbo than sticking my ass out a lil. Also choking feels nice cause it makes it harder to think / focus so you can let yourself going a bit more getting railed + dominant guys are hot and choking is dominant as hell';

'>>33051749
There's a difference between being independent and being on your own with things. You can be considerate and do things for her without infantilizing her. If you're ever unsure a simple "can i get those for ya" goes a long way';

'>>33052418
i never thought about asking, "can i get those for ya." thanks for the advice anon, i went into a foid thread and they laughed me out of the thread calling me an incel and saying im taking advantage of her, thanks for the honest feedback :)';

'>>33052427
No worries hun, frankly most men suck at understanding women and most women suck at understanding men. Put some autism on top its a tough situation. Maybe try to imagine you were a girl every now and then, pick up some feminist literature. We're people like you, just with a vastly different life experience';

'>>33052462
>Maybe try to imagine you were a girl every now and then
useful advice, now i can more or so imagine what its like to be her and imagine what id want from her perspective, thanks :)';

'>>33051749
>>33052418
>If you're ever unsure a simple "can i get those for ya" goes a long way
Was about to ask if doing something similar in situation like this would be fine or stupid. Obviously it doesn't hurt... that much, probably. For the most part, I would assume.';

'>went to community college when I was 18
>took 7 years to get my Associate's
>didn't stop going, just took me a while
>Fall of 2014 to Spring of 2021
>28 now
>thinking of going back to school and getting my Bachelor's
Is it too late to do this? I'm almost 30 and it feels like I missed out on the actual college experience.';

'>>33052670
Ah well, let me break it down a bit more complex.

Most girls love not having to ask / be asked for things. It shows that you're intelligent / empathetic enough to understand her and read her needs and desires and everybody loves being understood and I've never met someone who didnt find intelligence and empathy attractive. Plus it breeds a sense of closeness and familiarity. Some girls may be icked out by a guy literally just asking too many questions, but I assure you you are dodging a bullet on those.

Asking is always better than assuming the wrong thing. A lot of men don't do that because somehow noone ever teaches them and i figure it doesnt agree with their ego. You wouldn't step into a restaurant kitchen, start cooking with no clue what you're doing and hope to pass as a michelin chef, you'll be better off asking things and learning to become a good cook before larping as a master.
If you were perfect you'd always know what to do and never have to ask a girl what she wants, but nobody is perfect so just keep on asking and learning and getting better, not to mention different girls tend to have different wants and needs because once again, we are people. It's always better to ask than to blindly do dumb shit. Just be confident about it. Be a grown man asking her what *she* wants, not a stammering boy asking her how the world works, if that makes sense. You can get away with asking the dumbest shit as long as you're confident. Same goes in the bedroom. Hope that provides some additional insight.';

'Ladies, would you ever be able to see a severely physically disabled guy as a sexual being? Like as someone who has normal desires for intimacy?';

'>>33052744
Gonna strongly assume we're talking hot wheels here and not "handsome guy with a missing arm". Answer is uhh, yes-ish? I wouldn't hook up with a guy in a wheelchair but if i fell in love with one I don't see why I wouldn't wanna sleep with him. Would 100% hook up with someone like, deformed tho if he had a nice body, like, burn victim, massive scar, missing eye type stuff. If we're talking sensory disablities like blind, deaf whatever, thats just kind of a guy imho and normal guy rules apply. If none of the above describes you, maybe be more specific?';

'>>33052778
yeah I'm pretty fucked up physically. Twisted posture and physique like a concentration camp survivor.';

'>>33052778
>>33052744
>>33052790
I am disabled to a similar degree as Shane Burcaw, though I don't have the same disease as that faggot.';

'Similar disability related question, but not nearly as serious.
People always say "it's not the size of the ship that counts, it's the motion in the ocean." Well what if the motion is guaranteed to be terrible? I've got a neuromuscular disorder and I just don't have the coordination to find or maintain a good, consistent rhythm. I don't think I could really improve much with practice.
I know this obviously isn't the end of the world, but it's also not irrelevant either. So how big a deal would it be to you?';

'>>33052790
Hmm well some people are into that! Maybe lean more into girls that like taking a bit of control as opposed to girls that want you to physicsally dominate them. Plenty of weird goth girls love deathly anorexic looking guys with an ugly face so would imagine a funky spine aint that big a dealbreaker. Just try to find your market and remember its more about love than your body! Definitely easy to see as a sexual being in a romantic context.
>>33052831
ah well, sorry to hear that hun. Also, he looks like a proper weirdo, but maybe keep in mind for future reference that most girls empathetic / inclusive enough to date a heavily disabled guy are probably not a fan of homophobic slurs
>>33052893
Most guys are ass at sex i wouldnt worry about it too much, most of the pleasure is in getting fingered or eaten out. When he's actually inside, it's nice cause it feels hot to have someone inside, stretching you out, but for a lot of girls the dick isnt really what makes them finish. Every now and then you hook up with a guy who's just got it and its fucking amazing but thats far from the standard. Learn to eat pussy and use your hands to the best of your ability and just consider penetrative sex more of a bonus.';

'>>33052790
Also, forgot to add, i would have totally slept with ghe joachim phoenix joker and he is a fucking trainwreck vaguely in that direction so yk. Just go for the weird girls, the alt girls the autists, as long as you're a kind person it'll work out for ya!';

'>talking to girl who is from my state but goes to college in a different state
>met on a dating app
>talk every day
>call for hours
>play vidya together
>talk about taking her to dinner
Would it be retarded to ask her if she likes me? Just to like confirm? Sometimes it feels like she's passive when I talk about taking her to dinner.';

'>>33052407
Good answers. I commend you on your directness.';

'Question for women
Why dont you wash your cunt';

'>>33053556
99% sure this is bait but I'll use it as an excuse to drop some girl knowledge anyway.

You should usually never wash your coochie with soap and if you do you gotta be really careful about it because throwing off your ph balance is a fucking nightmare. It is also just kind of one of the points where your body just ends so sweat from your tummy, thighs and butt, will run down there. Added issue thats also relevant for guys: most people dont wipe their butt properly, please god invest in a bidet or at least some wet toiletpaper because dry will. not. do. the. trick. and when sweat runs through there it's fucking heinous. Furthermore, pussies have a looot of fucking folds and unlike men our urine doesnt run down a shotgun barrel, so wiping thoroughly after you pee is a must, also not something everyone adheres to.
Furthermore, pussies produce a lot of liquids! Discharge is chiefly among them (which insanely a lot of men have never heard off??) which is basically a mucus that your body produces to rinse out your insides and keep you safe from infection, that too is something you gotta clean up thoroughly and if you arent or let it sit it can get gross. Pro tip: If you have a lady friend and would like her life to be easier, wash your fucking dick, cause if you dont her body will spend the next day or two flushing out whatever bacteria you stuffed in there. Also, if you get aroused and obviously well, get wet, that too can get unpleasant if its left sitting too long.
As long as one follows proper toilet etiquette, showers about daily and cleans up when messy, its not hard to keep a pussy pristine. You can even get scented pantyliners (basically ultra thin pad like liners so you dont ruin your panties when you discharge / get wet) to turn a neutral skin smell into a sweet girl smell! They're not fantastic for your ph but i've never had any drawbacks and i like smelling like peaches down there.

TLDR: Having a cunt is major effort so not everybody smells nice';

'>>33053254
I recommend getting a little flirty here and there, it's a more playful and casual way to check. Most girls have gotten excellent at shooting down flirting so if you flirt and she shoots you down, well, you know where you stand. If she flirts back you can ask her out on a date and make sure you're *clear* on it being a date. If she doesnt, just be happy about having a friend. A question that straightforward can be daunting for a lot of women and it might make the friendship awkward if she has to say no.';

'>>33052710
>Ah well, let me break it down a bit more complex.
That totally makes a lot of sense and I get that. I would likely be too worried about "asking too many questions". My uncertain tone in the previous reply also referred to how some girls would likely not be happy with guy either taking such initiative or even asking the question. That just seems logical to me: you know, there're different people out there and all that.
In fact, I think I already have a clear understanding of that since I often hold the door open to random women whenever I'm out of my house (well, to people in general; think that still counts for something) and they're thankful most of the time. So I guess I shouldn't worry about messing up in such situations in the future.
>You can get away with asking the dumbest shit as long as you're confident. Same goes in the bedroom.
Getting more confident around new person or group for me usually takes time, but I will most likely not translate into bedroom whenever I get to that. Well, I'll figure things out by then somehow.
>Hope that provides some additional insight.
It sure did. Thank you.';

'>>33053843
Ok stinky snatch just say you're lazy and gross';

'>>33053968
imagine reading an informative post about how to take care of a vagina to the maximum and thinking they're lazy

the state of sex ed in this country is staggering holy shit';

'>>33053855
It's weird because she's receptive. Like I called her cute and she said "shut the fuck up" but in that playful manner. We joke and she laughs. But also like, she said last night she was gonna go to a dance but both her dates bailed on her. I know we're not exclusive and she's in a different state rn, but it still rubs me the wrong way.';

'>>33053968
Put soap directly on that pencil dick that you have there. Then get back to me.';

'>>33054084
Well that's a start! Maybe try to push a bit further, if she gets stood up, teasingly ask her when you should pick her up for dinner etc etc. You seem to be in a very friendly maybe kind of tomboyish dynamic and these things tend to be one big game of chicken. Flirt harder, see how hard she flirts back, I'd say if she's willing to go as far as joking about a relationshio / dates with you, she's probably receptive to being asked out for real!
>>33054148
While I do approve of baitanon dipping is cock in sulphuric acid, please god noone else put actual soap on their wang.
If you really slip up and that thing reeks a scrub or two with soap (shower gel) might be worthwhile and so might be generally using soap (still shower gel) on occasion, for the love of god noone descecrate their dick with any actual strong soaps on the regular, especially circumcised guys (looking at you burgers). I've gotten shocking amounts of dickpics that look like they belong to burn victim billy and trust me, noone likes a dry dick.';

'>>33054084
>Like I called her cute and she said "shut the fuck up" but in that playful manner.
Fuck. I should clarify. She was saying someone said she looked like some singer and she said she didn't cuz the singer was "gorgeous" and I said "then you must look like her cuz you're super cute" so it wasn't unprompted';

'>>33054177
What? But the internet told me women like older men! Shouldn't dry wrinkly skin be the craze?!';

'>>33054177
>she's probably receptive to being asked out for real!
I have. I said I was going to take her to dinner when she comes home, and she said ok. I guess I'm just worried those feelings will dissipate before then.';

'>>33039740
>>33042934
You two have something in common.

>>33043078
I'd say he needs to put on some muscle and definition to break 6, but I agree, anon isn't beyond hope.

>>33044652
That's quite an itinerary, how long will you be abroad? You're also in proximity to some stuff I personally wouldn't miss, what's the primary purpose of the trip?
>how much of a slut I am?
In relative terms? Not much.

>>33050052
Girls laugh about anything, or nothing, all the time. I wouldn't worry about it.

>>33051749
>she's a feminist
>she's shared with me tons of times how she likes being independent and how she doesn't need a man
>mfw
How obvious does a red flag need to be? Also, a lion doesn't have to tell anyone it's a lion. Women who feel the need to constantly assert how independent they are are almost always insufferable and almost never as self-sufficient as they like to imagine themselves as being.
>now she's pissed at me for not helping her
Did she ask for help? How many bags are we talking about?

>>33051749
>>33052092
This, it's important to remember that most feminists drop that shit hard the moment it's no longer to their benefit. Also, the importance of establishing frame, which really comes down to being yourself and acting in good faith and not apologizing for it.

For example, I'm southern. Manners and courtesy have been drilled into me from birth to the point where it's second nature to me at this point. I open doors for everyone. In my whole life I've had two oppressed, marginalized women be triggered by this. In both cases I said "ma'am I was just showing you the same courtesy I'd hope you'd show me, if that offends you, well then I don't know what to tell you" and went on my way. I didn't apologize. I didn't indulge. I denied the bullshit and moved on with my day.

Here's something I'd like you to try: be mindful of how often you apologize or experience feelings of guilt, and then assess whether you actually did anything wrong. If you haven't, don't apologize.';

'>>33052427
>saying im taking advantage of her
How do they figure?

>>33052462
>pick up some feminist literature
While we're making recommendations, pic related.

>>33052473
It's a great skill for becoming a better communicator, it also makes it easier to identify people who won't add anything good to your life, because once you become adept at considering the perspectives and experiences of others, people who don't do the same will start to stick out.

>>33052677
How did it take you seven years to complete four semesters?
>Is it too late to do this?
Yep. You're officially in "weird old guy" zone in the college scene. Only return to school if getting a bachelor's will further your career. What's your major?

>>33053968
There's a delicious sort of irony to a cunt being so critical of what women do with their pussies.';

'>>33054378
Saw an interview on it a while back, seemed like the lukewarm middle class womans equivalent of the dead horse that is the "my bully is mean to me because actually his dad is mean to him" trope, yeah we know. Strong doubt it's worth 290 pages of my time. Though I will admit skimmin the good reads reviews is a bit of a call back to reality. The amount of "feminists" whose conceptual understanding of patriarchy is "patriarchy is when men are mean" is headache inducing. Hate to see good theory so deeply misread, but then again, if christians and buddhists have struggled for millenia to get the most basic of concepts into peoples heads, I'm not sure what we were expecting handing out semi complex theory.
I dislike the way you speak of women here and there, but it's easier to empathize with you considering these are the crowds you've been working with.';

'>>33054177
>I've gotten shocking amounts of dickpics that look like they belong to burn victim billy and trust me, noone likes a dry dick.
Yes true but was to illustrate the point.';

'>>33054405
What is patriarchy?';

'>>33054405
And let me be clear, that's asked in good faith; in your own post you acknowledge that it can mean different things to different people, even those who call themselves feminists.

So, I ask you, in earnest: what is patriarchy, and why is it a problem?';

'Ladies of /soc/: how do I score a drunk chick at a bar in the most close-to-ethical way?
>For reference, this is in a context where I'm either as drunk, plastered, or both stoned and plastered.';

'>>33052893
The other person is right
When it's not casual sex and it's someone you care about, you both should be able to work together and figure out something that works for both of you
But yeah use your hands and mouth as well';

'>>33049122
Well if we don't downplay it, we get called whores. So there has to be a sweet spot of flirty and reserved that's hard to keep up.';

'any femanons in london?';

'M to Fs

Why don't women dress more functionally and plainly? I genuinely don't understand why you guys wouldn't just let each other wear pants and nice long sleeve t-shirt';

'>>33054713
No worries I assumed as much, you seem like a good faith guy.

Patriarchy is a societal system that is based around the idea that the highest value member of society / best leading figure is the idealized image of a patriarch.
It therefore naturally assumes male dominance and female submission since females have no way to *become* a patriarch, while men get to compete for superiority.
This divide between the "naturally submisisve" and the "naturally dominant" is fed to us from childhood and perpetually reinforced. Gender identity becomes one of the major pillars of personal identity despite actual biological and neurological differences, while very much existent, being borderline negligible by comparison.
The overexaggeration of gender identity allows for society to be easily normed, half chasing one delusional idea of the ultimate patriarch, the other half the delusional idea of a high value wife / woman.
This reductive and dehumanizing process harms both men and women, commodifying men to competitors that have to perform harder and harder by the day, socially, professionally and romantically and women into prizes for the most successful men to be won. And men and women are too busy blaming eachother and trying to figure out "how the other sex works" (pro tip, talk to them like a fucking person) to actually overcome their differences and make changes.

Now, imagine a nice big company, all the workers there are male, from the lowest miner all the way up yo the ceo, and there is at the very least an illusion of mobility there. Now all the serving roles to the workers, the secretaries, the assistants, the cleaning staff, are women. They were most likely by status born into one of those more or one of those less degrading roles and maybe if they work really really hard (or are lucky to be pretty) they'll make it to a promotion but they'll never be more than an assistant. Now, that doesnt mean they aren't likely better off than the lowest of men.';

'>>33055429
Surely the average secretary there will be doing better than the best off miner grinding himself to death in some shaft. However the only reason they can get away with placing that much strain on said miner is the idea that maybe, some day he'll be an overseer, and then maybe a manager etc. Patriarchy encourages the majority of men to compete for the throne while it encourages women to serve masculinity and success.

Talking heads love to spout about how female oppression or the patriarchy aren't real because of male homelessness and suicide rates and "men are oppressed to" not recognizing the fact that the reason for those numbers is because nobody gives a shit about men because patriarchal societies reduce them to replacable automatons chasing the same delusion. And if you don't function, if you don't perform, if you're weak, you wont get girls and you wont get respect and you wont get anything because in a patriarchal society your performance is all you are. No mercy for men. No compassion for men. Go function or die. And then populists have the fucking audacity to push that off onto "women these days" like its not a real issue that needs solving. At least as a woman I'll always be desired as a commodity for someone to win.

"The worker is the slave of capitalist society, the female worker is the slave of that slave."';

'>>33055429
>>33055445
Perhaps got a little bit heated there, just ignore typos, its a topic I'm quite passionate about as you may be able to tell...';

'>>33055429
Patriarchy is nature. Women are the footsoldiers of the patriarchy, by selecting for the strongest and highest status males. You can endlessly deconstruct, as you did here so well, you know whats hard? Putting it back together. Something you cannot do, knowing that ultimately you have no answer to primal biological instincts that make us humans. What you dislike, is the human condition. Cope how you like.';

'>>33055623
>Women are the foot soldiers of patriarchy
Women and men carry equal responsibility for improvement, I wont deny that, though I will say men hold considerably more power to actually make changes. Once again its not an us VS them thing.

>What you dislike, is the human condition. Cope how you like.
Look anon, I get that the whole gender essentialism thing is super convenient and soothing to swallow, but as I did point out in my posts (i believe, i did have my browser crash and have to rewrite them once), the actual biological gender gap is bordering on negligible in comparison to the societally reinforced and exaggerated one observable irl. Read the second sex and in case your head is too far up your own ass to read the second sex maybe try "we are not born submissive" by marnon garcia, I hear its laid out to be more simple. Or really, read any semi decent piece of sane feminist literature written since de beauvoir.';

'>>33055623
Though I would like to also note that a men who haven't the faintest clue of womanhood observing some behavioral patterns, finding no cause on their own and then stepping out into the world lecturing women and younger men on "what women are naturally like", because they were too dense to connect behaviors to causality is a fucking embarrassment';

'>>33055429
NTA but finally some good discussion.

You posit a reasonable, liberal-individualist critique of the arbitrary nature of barring women from competing in certain dominance hierarchies on the basis of sex. For this you could make a biological argument in the sense that the traits, we can reasonably assume correlate with success in cognitively complex societies, are also manifested by women.

Furthermore, you argue
>nobody gives a shit about men because patriarchal societies reduce them to replacable automatons chasing the same delusion

That is where I would argue that this is not a consequence of patriarchy. If you enable women to compete in the same hierarchies as men you won't get rid of the competition and the striving for dominance, as well as the marginalisation of those who find themselves at the bottom. In fact, you could argue that you are giving them more competition, while at the same time making female success and male success - formerly divided into distinct spheres - commensurable, which also affects our cognition.

You write that the men at the bottom are driven by an 'illusion' of mobility. And I agree - while you may find a handful of underachievers among them, most people who struggled to graduate high school will not become CEO. But the same is true for their female equivalents. They are going to be cleaning the floors, even if you break the glass ceiling above them, because they lack the innate ability to climb the social ladder.
That being said, there are obviously other spheres where patriarchal norms were to the detriment of women, where low status women might see some benefits, so I am by no means trying to generally challenge feminist efforts here. I'm just saying: the idea that a feminist struggle necessarily improves the lives of men too and we generally move towards global "betterness" rather than facing a more zero sum reality, where the rights and privileges of some may chip away from those of others, may not hold to scrutiny.';

'>>33055803
An, now you I like! I'd give you some of my breakfast, since I made way too fucking much but well, you're digital and all that.

There appears to be a minor muscommunication here. I do not advocate for women to compete in the same space as men because ego driven competition as we know it leads to inhumane conditions. Easily observable in all the "girlboss" ceos an lawyers who are literally just taking a toxic male ego and work sthic and putting some glitter and pink bows on it. I think are can only really move forward as a species if we truly enable people to perform, cooperate and think for themselves and to exist as communities rather than in an individualist state of "fuck you got mine". I was merely elaborating how historically patriarchal competitive behavior and exclusion as changed our perception of womanhood, not advocating for women to become awful in the same way as men. Both sexes have regrettable fates as it stands and surely in some scenarios, some women also benefit from the patriarchy. I mean, ceo trophy wife doesn't seem lime a terrible gig right? Cant guarantee I wouldn't poison him but oh well.

Mind you, I'm sure some economic right dickhead will read this and go "well but people dont cooperate like that! you're living in a fairytale! we have to be realistic!" which, uh yeah, they dont and they wont if we dont enable them to learn and grow. Congrats on your system that benefits from dumbing down 99% of the worlds population. Keep living for yourself. I'd rather work against all odds for a future I believe in than be a vapid cunt with a lamborghini up my ass.';