'I want to stick my thumb up Laios’ bum';

'>>92613880
Wtf??? Spoilers?????';

'>>92614088
??? !???? !???';

'>>92613880
what does this appeal to?';

'>>92614088
The manga is all already out, just go read it.

>>92614126
It appeals to the Cool Monster Fight Appreciator demographic.';

'>>92613880
>overlevel monster
>not just the classic sphere of annihilation inside of a porthole
tsk tsk tsk
kids these days';

'>>92613890
fpbp';

'>>92613880
It's good to see that Trigger spent the animation budget where it really mattered.';

'>>92613880
There were three whole parties there, the fact that they all jobbed is an embarrassment. And no, Kabru's group being geared for PvP is no excuse.';

'>>92614310
YUMMMM';

'>>92614322
Only Shuro's and Kabrus party were even fighting. Laios and Marcille were both too emotionally shocked by seeing Falin revived as ultra mega chicken, (same goes for Shuro as well), while Shenshi was preoccupied with carrying a plate of food and Chillchuck has never been a combatant anyways.';

'>>92614126
Soulless people that are the japanese
All anime is like that';

'>>92614088
I mean, techincally if you see the clip related, see that is ahead of you, and you just keep watching instead of pausing, who else should you blame?';

'Then they should have run away instead of pretending they could fight.';

'>>92614310
Built for Elf women';

'>>92613880
Holy shit, the action is so slow and everyone is just aimlessly dicking around an empty, square courtyard; people watch this garbage?';

'>>92614310';

'>>92613880
Thank you for reminding me a new episode dropped.';

'>>92614322
To be fair one of these are complete godamn jobbers that have already TPK'd like twice already.';

'Guro is great.';

'I ended up putting that pantless Namari skin add-on in the mod MEGA, also included a patsuless version. Don't know if it's good enough for the Steam version yet, I'll think about it.';

'>>92614088
Death in the dungeon isn't really permanent, remember? This is literally the third time Kabru's party gets wiped.';

'>>92614310
>>92615522
Fantastic feathery funbags. But I'm more excited because it's almost time for kot.';

'>>92613880
To be fair, they did many things wrong:
1. Large open fire in area filled with monsters, previously they always found a secluded easily defendable area.
2. Huge group of adventurers in one spot, dungeon reacts heavily against large groups.
3. Party leaders all froze up so the counter attack was disorganized.
4. When the leaders began reacting some of them they gave bad orders, subdue instead of kill.
5. Previous inter party conflict resulted in two of the leaders being weakened.

The battle could have been won but it could have more easily been avoided. The stairs going up to a safer level were right there but they got distracted.';

'>>92614310
>Trigger
Explains the janky animation';

'>>92616470
Oh, so it's consequence-free murder porn.';

'>>92615511
It look edited montage.
But you are free to bring your examples of how stuff should look like instead';

'>>92617566
It's a TTRPG dungeon crawl in anime form so... kinda, yeah. It's not very common to see this many guys get got in one sitting though and the general tone is pretty light.';

'>>92617714
This chapter really is about making the viewer understand just how severely Marcille fucked up by reviving her the way she did. It's a more important turning point in the plot than killing the dragon to begin with.';

'testing';

'>>92617566
Not precisely, if all their healers bite the dust they're all fucked.';

'>>92617747
The problem wasn't with how Marcille revived Fallin, but where. The "tap into dungeon to get infinite mana" ancient magic wasn't what went wrong it was that the Mad Sorcerer cast a control spell on the Dragon's soul and that it persisted after death. None of the other monster souls persisted and using pig/goat flesh to rebuild a damaged corpse doesn't create pig/goat chimeras.';

'>>92615522
>cutting out macellies reaction

why even post it';

'>>92618256
To make it easier to fap to later without Shuro in the way.';

'>>92613880
I wasn't gonna watch the anime, but maaan, that Trigger animation. Beautiful.';

'>>92618112
Falin had amped up magic even before the mad mage fucked with her. Whatever Marcille did it wasn't a normal resurrection.';

'>>92613880
Why doesn't Benichidori (sp?) get thigh-highs like Hien?';

'>>92619277
Marcille said that she "temporarily" made Falin part of the dungeon.

Whoops.';

'>>92613880
>When a no games faggot is trying to make threads about his shitty meme anime despite not having dick to say';

'>>92619482
>when a wannabe janny exposes his newfaggotry

Dungeon Meshi has been a /tg/ topic for a decade, you fucking tourist';

'>>92613880
>You think my adventures are funny?';

'>>92619509
Anime onlies haven't.';

'>>92613880
How can it be Overleveled if there's no Level in GURPS ? Just throw whatever you want at them, they'll figure a way to plead, lie or flee out of the situation.';

'Refer to lawful evil';

'>>92619546
>GURPS';

'>>92619678
>You make Eye-Contact with the woman in the alley, fort save.
If this was properly foreshadowed, this would be a cool idea.';

'>>92619277
It's because she had been bound to the dragon's soul due to being revived with the flesh of the dragon that the lunatic magician had put under his personal control. The dragon soul was merely dormant within her until the magician started issuing commands again and transformed her';

'>>92613880
>shoot an arrow with basilisk poison when she is distracted.
>super effective.
>GG guys.';

'>>92617778
Not really, this has happened to that same party twice before. Other parties can revive them or bring their bodies to a temple which handles that sort of thing';

'>>92613880
She didn't kill quite this many in the manga, right?';

'>>92620092
She did, that is missing the undine kill also, assuming because it's not really human.';

'>>92620191
That's a very Elf thing to say, anon.';

'>>92620414
I think they're rather sentient, but just not in human category';

'>>92620058
Yeah, because they were lucky to be on the main path that's commonly traversed and died with their bodies intact. If you die in some out-of-the-way corner or are torn apart and scattered across the dungeon, then you could just be a corpse for months to years. Chances of successful revival become vanishingly small at that point.

Revival having risky stipulations is the whole that puts you on a time limit is the whole motivating factor of the series early on.';

'>>92617566
>consequence-free
The monster slaughtering them was created by a resurrection gone wrong, so not exactly.';

'>>92613880
>someone made an edit of all Falin kills
Nice.';

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'>>92623373
Was there a reason why Falin's half of the red dragon became feathery instead of scaly? Or was it just an aesthetic choice by the mad mage?';

'>>92623456
it's something to do with falin being warm blooded and the dragon cold blooded, and thermoregulating between that';

'>>92623846
Not canon reason but';

'>>92623456
no reason in the narrative, but It's probably a design choice by the author intended to muddy whether we think falin is still "good" underneath the corruption.

bird wings/angel wings, especially white ones, are obvi seen as more of a sign of goodness than evil, so to the viewer it lends more to the confusion of "is her soul still there or is she merely an evil puppet just using the form of falin?"';

'>>92623874
the blood temp diff is conjecture but its def temp related';

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'>>92614322
This is a prime example of how circumstances can dictate a fight. Falin got the ambush advantage and dealt with the 4/18 (killed 3 ninjas, Izutsumi fled) before the rest even noticed she was there. Then they started bickering about how to handle her, and in the confusion basically only attacked in pairs. Despite that, they still dealt her several significant wounds and forced her to flee. They could have handled her if they approached with a unified plan and intention to kill.';

'>>92624578
4/16*
forgot Laios doesn't have a full party of 6.';

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'>>92620525
>Chances of successful revival become vanishingly small at that point.
An incomplete body isn't revivable, no? Marcille reviving Falin is an extreme case and no one else even has the knowledge to do it. The whole reason reviving is even possible is that the dungeon keeps souls from going where they should.
To be clear, you're right, I just thought it was even riskier than that because incomplete bodies, digested remains or other mangled leftovers are generally not revivable at all. The only reason that Laois and co thought they had a chance was because they assumed the dragon was like a snake and would take like a month or more to actually digest Falin.';

'>>92624467
Kuro ain't scared of anything.';

'>>92625017
Kobolds go in a berserk state';

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'I love how hard farcille got baited only for the ending to give them absolutely fucking nothing';

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'>>92626001';

'>>92618256
>wants knife ear and certified cuck in cute monster girl gif
Why did your parents put 100/100 points in faggotry when building your character?';

'>>92626001
>>92626014
This is definitely some Laios bias, because there's no way Marcille and Shuro just leave Falin alone after her brother gets eaten in front of her. When she heads down, they're coming with her even if they don't think there's any real chance. Namari too maybe, because Laios is not as hefty a loss as Falin is. Depending on how distraught she is I can even see Shuro getting his honor guard involved.';

'dude i wanna fuck tht thing';

'>>92625001
Mega keks';

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'>>92627124
best end';

'I never really thought about it, and it's most-likely just a really convenient way to get Izutsumi in the party, but it was kind of fucked up for Shuro to not give a shit when they couldn't find her. Chalking it up to "eh, she probably ran away" when she could have just been killed elsewhere by a harpy or Faligon or, if alive, will die when the bomb collar goes off is pretty callous.';

'>>92627290
Maybe, but he is also in a pretty bad state himself. He is also the oldest son so he has his own responsibilities.';

'>>92625055
What the fuck? It's a girl?';

'>>92627404
Kuro is a boy. However, this is the kat, Izutsumi, polymorphed into a kobold thanks to some mushrooms if I remember right. It's why Laios is a gnome.';

'>>92627543
Thanks a lot';

'>>92627290
It's a cat. They either come back, or they don't.';

'>>92627290
It's been awhile since I read it, but isn't Izutsumi seen by the rest of her group, barring Tade, as unpleasant to be around and mostly useless?';

'>>92627921
Yeah.

They also all know she'd run away if she got the chance.

People searched for bodies and people; given that, if someone known to run away can't be found, it's reasonable to think she may have run away.';

'>>92627921
>mostly useless
They'd have cut her loose or made her a dishwasher if she was that useless. Izutsumi's beast senses put her leagues above her human counterparts. That sort of thing is invaluable in a dungeon.';

'wait a second, i just realized

how does this pre-gun pre-electricity pre-mechanical flight civilization understand the premise and mechanics of an allergic reaction to pollen';

'>>92628741
I mean, neither of the inventions you've mentioned are required to understand the idea of a pollen causing you to sneeze and making your eyes itch.';

'>>92628741
You think premodern people would just be like "ah yes the demons have taken hold of Fritz, in spring, like every year." ?
People in the past were uninformed. Not stupid. They understood the concept of allergies, just not the mechanism. And you can physically see pollen, so they certainly understood a pollen allergy.';

'>>92618256
built for human men';

'>>92626203
I agree.
The next panel would be Shuro, Marcille and Chilchuck chasing Falin into the dungeon (remember Chil is still on retainer).
I could even see Namari coming along, as the rest of the party went back in meaning the party decidedly did NOT break up and thus it would be bad for Namari's rep not to go with, and assuming Falin tries to eat a monster (remember she's also interested in that and they still have no supplies) there's no way Senshi doesn't become involved either.
I don't see Shuro bringing his retainers simply because he wouldn't have had the chance to in this scenario.
At best maybe he could arrange a message to be sent to them to start following.
So IMO the party comp would be Falin, Shuro, Marcille, Chilchuck, Senshi, +/- Namari.
Assuming Namari comes along the group still hasn't gone over the "6 people" rule for dungeon parties.';

'>>92628996
>You think premodern people would just be like "ah yes the demons have taken hold of Fritz, in spring, like every year." ?
They're called gnomes, anon.';

'>>92625335
You didn't read the manga.';

'>>92629119
I did. Die crying about it.';

'>>92625335
Literally not even once.
Marcille has only even shown attraction to males, the elf prince Marcille's succubus turned into was confirmed to be a male character from that trashy romance series Marcille loves so much.
If you had paid attention you'd know why cleanliness is so important to magic users (hence the bath scene).';

'>>92613880
Why does the secondary party always get wiped?';

'>>92629183
In this case it's because they were eating nothing but rice and preserved fish.';

'I recall a scene where they're all watching Marcille's romance novel projected from her dreams with magic somehow, but it's not on the website I'm using to re-read the manga. Is that an extra or did I somehow dream an imaginary chapter?';

'>>92629225
It's an extra chapter for Nightmares.';

'>>92629152
>>92629119
You're both right. DM weaponizes your assumptions against you. It's Chilchuk's entire joke and a harsh recontextualization for Farcille once you understand why they are the way they are. Marcille is super into Falin but it's not romantic.';

'>>92628741
In the real world the distinction between Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes has been around since the Bronze Age.';

'>>92629277
We know from the Adventurer's Bible that none of the ships are canon.
Chilchuck tells his daughters that Laios, Marcille and Falin are all single.';

'>>92629505
One question, do you have a good link to a proper translation? The only rips I have sadly cut off most of side comics, including this one.';

'>Laios refuses to give Marcille to the Elves

Is there anything stopping the Elves from coming back in a hundred years and asking Laius's great-great-grandson for Marcille's extradition in exchange for benefits to the kingdom? She probably won't be the close personal friend of the King by then.';

'>>92629060
>>92626203
Falin is bad at communicating her desires and lacks assertiveness. Everyone thought they agreed not to rescue Laios, so they had no idea Falin would go in. She then snuck in by herself. They'd notice she's missing later.
As to why they didn't walk her home or something after her brother died, this is during the beginning of the story, when everyone was quite distant. Marcille who was the closest has trauma about death, so she might've been at a loss for words as to how to make Falin feel better, because she fears death of others so much herself. So they let her be alone with her thoughts for a while.
You can say that they still wouldn't have let her be alone, but this is the early manga DM characters. The characters in early manga did horribly inconsiderate things because of desensitization and general unfamiliarity with each other. In that sense that what-if is very accurate depiction of a literal what-if about how the story could've started in another universe.';

'>>92631111
>asking Laius's great-great-grandson
>She probably won't be the close personal friend of the King by then
No, she will be the King's great-great-grandma. Doubt the elves will bother trying.';

'>>92629068
Huh, that's neat that Falin specializing in the gnomish school is just another characterization tool, she is absolutely not the sort to order spirits (or anyone) around, but ask them nicely instead.';

'>>92629277
Yea, I've been seeing secondaries gooning out over Farcille ships and I'm just thinking, "Boy are they in for a surprise when they work out that Marcille just has major attachment issues because of trauma."';

'>>92631125
Marcille is sterile.';

'>>92631288
Is that implied anywhere in the manga? I dont recall ever reading anything like It.';

'>>92631350
Stated multiple times troughout the manga after it was revealed that she was a half elf. Thistle for example, mocks her over her situation.';

'>>92631288
That wouldn't the first "impossible" thing Laius accomplished.
She just need a few cheap monstergirl costumes, and he will find a way.';

'>>92631350
Thistle explicitly states it when explaining that Marcille's a half-elf.';

'>>92631288
>>92631361
>>92631350
Said once by Thistle and Mithrun, implied once by Lion, never using a medical word like "sterile".
Brought up in the context of her being a half-breed, so there is speculation about what type of inability to rear a child it is, whether it is completely impossible or just very unlikely.';

'>>92631400
Brother, that is utter semantics, the very fact that they immediately relate it to a real-life hybrid that we factually know to be sterile,*before even revealing that half-elves are unable to have children*, and then re-emphasizing the relation after we do, makes the author's intent crystal clear.';

'>>92631439
Brother, you don't want to start that argument, as has happened in many DM threads, it is known that mules in fact are not 100% sterile. That's the whole basis of the speculation.';

'>>92629505
Chilchuck? More like Chilchud because he doesn't want his daughters to have interracial relationships.';

'>>92619718
Medusa are very often foreshadowed. Commonly with statuary gardens. I've literally had NPCs point-blank tell the PCs that there's a medusa lurking in them thar hills, and they went to kill her with zero preparation.
Not a single one of them even closed their eyes for the fight. She has more statues in her garden. She's killed more players as a CR 9 archer than any of the demon lords or liches.';

'>>92631451
I mean, two of his younger daughters are a macho obsessed gold digger and carefree coquette. Is it really a wonder that he doesn't want to enable them?';

'>>92631782
Both Laious and Senshi would be a learning experience for them why Chilchuck doesn't want them around his colleagues.';

'>>92631810
True. But do you rally want to have your two work buddies at a center of your family drama?';

'What are some good ways I can introduce a high-level enemy in a way that can threaten the players but still gives them a pretty viable means of escape? My players are level 12 and they have to steal an artifact and rescue a captive from an enemy twice their threat level; I want to make it so the danger is there but they won't get instantly discovered and/or overpowered and killed.';

'>>92626001
>>92626014
Huh, this is actually somewhat how I predicted this would go. Though >>92626203 has a point and Shuro would go and prehaps the others, but I'd argue that they'd go if only to humor Falin/try to talk her down the whole way. At some point Shuro would put his foot down and try to drag Falin back by force, maybe with Marcilles help.';

'>>92632404
Everyone besides maybe Namari would definitely go, if they saw Falin go in, but they didn't see it.';

'>>92632355
Is there any sort of Scroll of Teleport or some equivalent in setting? Giving them a panic button might solve that issue.

Or are they the type of players who wont retreat no matter what and then blame the DM when they didn't burn rubber when they had the chance?';

'>>92632355
Means of escape is a difficult thing. There's almost no other way besides giving a plain escape option of grab all the dead and fuck off.
If the area is not guarded 24/7, and the enemy won't disturb the bodies, you could have a weaker option where if at least one person manages to escape (maybe no need for blatant escape option), they can come recover bodies later.';

'>>92613890
What’s up there that you want so badly?';

'>>92631810
Senshi is an experience in exactly what you'd want as a husband, and Laios would teach them that sometimes money ain't worth it.';

'>>92632355
Not really directly related to escape, but given the OP, I wonder if it would be interesting if the system allowed for rather easy revival, the characters weren't massive bags of hit points, and everyone had a few characters in their control.
That way it would be pretty regular to have characters die, which causes difficulties when skillsets are lost, but the game just becomes avoiding TPK essentially. Having multiple characters like that with variable lifespan in conflict does make it probably inherently quite hard to balance, but I guess the trick is to throw in enemies which rather certainly won't manage to kill everyone. Still, it could be very tense with the carnage.';

'>>92631382
Damn, Didnt remember that, thanks for reminding me.
Poor girl';

'>>92632355
Jumping off a cliff into a raging river is a classic, a narrow cave passage could also work if the threat is physically large.

For introducing it, seeing it at a distance while it is busy with something else works, particularity if you can play up size by saying it initially seemed much closer.';

'>>92629183

Worf effect to establish a threat.';

'>>92629183
In Dungeon Meshi's case? Kabru's party is meant to contrast Toudens' party. This means that while Laios and Senshi are experts on monsters and are actually trained for fighting them and surviving inside dungeon, Kabru is an expert duelist whose party consistently gets into trouble due to their lack of dungeon delving relevant skills, like ability to recognize the hidden monsters. Their first wipe on screen came from them mistaking treasure mimicking monsters for the actual gold coins and jewelry.';

'>>92613880
Meh. The violence is lame. I've seen cartel videos of drugged people having their hearts carved out that were visually more interesting than this.';

'>>92632438
>>92632444
>>92632510
>>92632617

Thank you for the replies. I'll consider the teleport option; feel dumb I didn't think of it earlier. Also giving them some Mook allies to perhaps distract the creature, and jumping off a cliff would work as the lair is overlooking a coastline.

Big monster is a great wyrm blue dragon sleeping on its hoard, and basically they have to sneak in, rescue the magic captive who can guide them to their destination, and steal a magic dagger with an ancient key hidden in the hilt that lets them access it. Party has to split up, with the group going after the dagger going into the dragon's lair. There is a sort of alarm enchantment on the horde but it can be countered or bypassed; I just wanted to emphasize stealth and make them think outside the box for a change.';

'>>92633033
I would hope that something made for public consumption has less radical novelty than actual snuff. Probably more plot, too.

Anon I think you may need your dopamine levels looked at';

'>>92633698
I dont know. If you are going for the shock value of "let's start wantonly murdering a party" you should go all the way. It's not about dopamine, it's about being a coward about the subject you wanted to present in the first place.';

'>>92633735
Dungeon Meshi is a comedy';

'>>92633735
>shock value
I'm getting the sense you didn't read the manga or watch the full scene.';

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'>>92624467
>>92625017
I think Delicious is a pretty cool dog. Eh explores Dungeon and doesn't afraid of anything';

'>>92629505
cabrón probably banged all the girls, maybe except marcille. laios banged them both';

'>>92613880
looks like shit';

'>>92632965
Kabru's party is actually kind of shit. Mickbell flakes in combat, Kuro is hampered by his personal dynamic with Mickbell and the downside to going berserk, and Holm locks up if things get too hectic. On top of that half of their number have antagonistic personality traits, none of them seem to have any sense of tactics or strategy, and they all come off as very reactive. The party is held together entirely by Kabru's force of personality and competency.';

'>>92629472
Wait, really?

>>92631382
But mules aren't superior to both outside of a narrow role.

And Hybrid vigor's generally a myth.

>>92632355
Narrow halls with a convenient turn';

'God anime fucking sucks.';

'>>92634760
In the sense that they recognized they were two different forms of the same illness, yes. In the sense that they understood Type 1 was caused by a lack of insulin production while Type 2 by insulin insensitivity, no.';

'>>92634732
Yeah. Arguably they really do lack a proper sense of cohesion. One would think that a party with two mages, three warriors and one trap finding specialist would actually fare well, but they really seem like a bunch of noobs that barely started working together.';

'>>92634846
Did they associate Type 2 with poor diet?';

'>>92634855
They're also relatively inexperienced compared to everyone in Laois' group. So given enough time they'd probably be just as good or better. I think its mentioned when they're first introduced that the furthest they'd ever gotten was the ghost castle level they were on when they got treasure bugged. Whereas Laois himself had been doing gold stripping on that level from before their group was even formed.
So might be an experience thing. Or might just be a personality/attitude thing like you said.';

'>>92614126
Edgy teenagers and the manchildren they invariably grow up into, and mentally ill bugs. There's a reason why shit like guro and vore were essentially unheard of outside of east Asia, and why anime's fandom is still prominently loser youth and cringe adults despite it having been imported to the west for over 30 years now.';

'>>92634933
Yeah, that's probably a combination of these two factors.
>>92634958
What are you even talking about? This is literally a montage of all deaths in a battle scene in a fantasy series. It's not even the actual scene. Battles are supposed to be brutal.';

'>>92634958
The fact that western audiences get so up in arms over something so relatively tame would be funny if it weren't so sad. Too many people have been raised on Marvel's "We totally didn't kill anyone because there was no blood on screen. Ignore the guys being thrown into brick walls and having buildings landing on them."
Violence shown in a scene like this is not meant to titillate. Its to remind the audience that there are real stakes when things get violent, that this is not a setting where combat is fun and games. If more western media actually depicted violence as less than glamorous fun times, then maybe there wouldn't be an epidemic of people turning to it.';

'>>92634855
I'd go as far as say it's actually a recurring theme. The story indicates that most parties are temporary arrangements and there is a fair amount of tension beneath the surface among adventurers. These are not coordinated teams, they're ad hoc groups whose recruiting and retention is based entire around profitability. They're essentially all trying to brute force the dungeon instead of developing knowledge and teamwork. Kabru's group is at least smart enough to recognize that pulling back is sometimes the best play but they still rely on overmatch to carry them. Shuro's party is capable and coordinated, but too rigid and hierarchal.';

'>>92625001
>Kabru with mascara tears';

'>>92629505
I just noticed how much Chil's eldest daughter takes after her father.
I mean there's the obvious stuff like being a lock picker like her dad, but she even wears her hair the same as him.
What a father-con.';

'>>92631450
>it is known that mules in fact are not 100% sterile.

Yeah, only like 99.8% sterile.';

'>>92635176
Her design is based on a gender-swapped version of Chil from a side comic.';

'>>92634732
Why Kabru even gathered such retards is really below him';

'>>92635249
Having only read about half the manga, I'm going to say arrogance. He wants to be the important person in the room.';

'>>92635085
NTA. I do actually agree that too much modern western media does suffer from the issue of the over-sanitation of the violence. It gives people this weird notion of the violence being something clean and gleaming. At least this scene, especially if you want a full scene instead of a death montage, shows a proper ambush. Filled with chaos, people freezing in panic or confusion where things don't go as planned and of course blood and injuries. Serious violence deserves being treated seriously and that means showing its consequences.
>>92635088
Yes, I do agree with that observation. To describe faults of main groups we see:
>Kabru's
Inexperienced, lacking team cohesion and lacking knowledge about dungeon.
>Toshiro/Shuro's
Too stiff due to being literally a feudal retinue protecting their lord's son. Almost everyone of them was too focused on Toshiro to act efficiently in chaos of a dungeon battle.
>Canaries
The best guys outside Laios's party, mostly due to being dungeon delving pros. Still, they do suffer a lot from having 2/3rds of their force composed of essentially penal battalion prisoners.
>Elf and human whose names I forget
I mean, their party is too small and they are too much of noobs to even judge them properly';

'>>92635206
Yeah, and some people are so offended by that 0.2% that they will argue to end that Marcille must be 100% sterile. Crazy I know.';

'>>92635085
Weird then that anime takes the time to demonstrate the chick's fat thighs after she gets slammed through a wall and that other one that gets smashed has overly animated tits for a frame or two. Quite curious indeed! You're a midwit.';

'>>92635286
Didn't even notice the thighs.
And the titties is a tension break, plus calling out that something in her is still human. Pay less attention to the bounce and more to her face, she's excited to see Laois.
You're the midwit making all or nothing generalizations.';

'>>92635249
>>92635273
Rin is a sort-of childhood friend of his.';

'>>92635346
Yeah but the rest';

'>>92635308
Bro it's literally sexualizing violence lmao come ON. Shit is subtle as a brick to the face. Fucking degen pseudo philosopher weebs man goddamn.';

'>>92615035
This. I blame video games for teaching some parties not to ever consider a retreat might be needed to regroup or change plans.';

'>>92635518
I blame bad GMs who can't immerse the players in the game.
When you face a potential encounter, first you have to evaluate the chances of the potential outcomes. But if the GM throws some wonky bullshit or tries to be tricky, eventually players learn to not try anything, which gets extremely boring quickly for everyone, and then GM makes everything beatable.';

'>>92634760
>But mules aren't superior to both outside of a narrow role.
>And Hybrid vigor's generally a myth.
I'm almost certain this is Kui's politics/personal views bleeding through. That or she just didn't do that much research on the subject. Happens to a lot of authors.';

'>>92636231
>>92634760
To be honest, with the actual description of what half elves gain and what they lose, the mule comparison is really apt. Or a liger one.

Their only advantage is being really, really long lived but they are infertile and plagued with weird development issues. Marcille herself had issues with developing motoric skills as a child and didn't get her adult teeth until her early twenties. And she more or less got lucky as a half elf.';

'>>92632458
Worms. Because you just know he’s full of them from eating so many questionable things.';

'>>92633033
damn you're kind of a badass....';

'>>92619678
only LN and LE are good GMing';

'>>92631284
They'll never realize that because their brains shut down the moment they see two shippable characters standing next to each other.';

'>>92635277
This is some of the biggest cope I've ever encountered.

Is it theoretically possible for Marcille to have a kid? Maybe. Is it in any way likely? No.';

'>>92635274
>Elf and human whose names I forget
The half-elf is Fionil and the human is Doni';

'>>92635456
Kabru is overflowing with charisma. Note that no only do his party follow him, they all were like "Yeah! It would be awesome if you had infinite power as the Lord of the Dungeon! You're the one who should have it!"';

'>>92634760
>But mules aren't superior to both outside of a narrow role.

Mules are definitely stronger than either, more endurance than either, better resistance to disease, are often considered to be smarter, can eat more marginal food (and less of it), and probably stuff I'm not thinking of.

The main thing about horses is that they're faster, especially in sprints. But a lot of that is because mules are traditionally bred from whatever shitty mares you have lying around, instead of being carefully and intensively bred for speed. Compare a mule to a random shitty horse and the gap is smaller than comparing it to a thoroughbred or quarterhorse.

The other thing about horses is that they're more obedient. Mules, even mules used to be ridden, are fairly likely to ignore the rider's commands if the mule thinks it's stupid.';

'>>92631284
Marcille being an obvious faggot and Marcille having severe attachment issues are, in fact, not a contradiction in the least.';

'>>92632355
Have the new villain effortlessly mog a consistent threat to the party, just like wolverine.';

'>>92636819
Why was this post deleted?';

'>>92637624
You also have to think about Marcille being a master of the dungeon.

Since she has been the reciver of extreme magical power, even for a short time it might influence her in some ways.

Same with Laios. Since he was transfomed with increible magical power and after consuming the demon has retained some of its powers.

So I would say the chanches are higher than 0.2%';

'>>92628741
People are making excuses but in reality it's just comedy anachronism, they know all kinds of modern nutritional jargon and concepts and no effort is made to medievalize them for example
If you can't relax you can just assume they have some parallel construction that was worked out with magic science and it's only being translated to our terminology.';

'I like to imagine happy endings';

'>>92635274
The way the canaries are composed is great world building, it's so obvious absolutely no normal elf is remotely interested anymore and there is nothing but the bottom of the barrel left to do way too many jobs with way too few people. Which is why the island dungeon can have gotten to the critical point';

'>>92614322
Shuro's party were the only real combat threat since Laios' lot were fucking about, and a lot of those got ganked in the first minute';

'>>92629505
>WAKU WAKU';

'>>92638381
Either the center of the post containing the actual rebuttal to the "sexual" displays in the scene was skipped over and deemed off topic from the first + last sentences alone, or the second sentence rustled some jimmies. Fact that it was reported earns a laugh regardless. Farlyn wasn't wearing a bra so tits jiggle, it's only natural, even if she's currently UNnatural.';

'>>92623373
>"My name is Falin. Take up arms and face me, newly Arisen. For my kind do not heed the toothless."';

'>>92640084
I agree with that. They are basically a penal legion manned monitored by bunch of bastards, petty nobles and high society's outcasts, and that's what makes them work so well. It also allows for some great character interactions.';

'>>92640325
No bro fr fr its sexual bro lmfao fr bro thats what they said on the community discord Bro fr like come ON';

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'>>92625310
I wonder if she chases worms to eat.';

'>>92613880
>they didn’t make zombie dragon failin chalk white
Sadge
>>92615522
>her tits SHRINK after ripping open her shirt
Unimaginably gay.';

'>>92641611
She isn't a zombie, you moron';

'>>92631382
>>92631400
>>92631439
The lion outright offers to make her fertile.

Not sure which wishes got cancelled or fulfilled. It's not like the Golden Kingdom residents died has if their pent up age caught up to them so I think you just stay at whatever biological state you were when the winged lion gave up life.';

'>>92613880
Ok, but how about Laios x Falin?

Incest is normal in medieval fantasy.';

'>>92640038
>>92628741
Dwarves have telephones, and they built elevators and steam pipe in the dungeon long ago.

The academy Marcille and Fallin went to taught modern ecology applied to dungeons.

I think it is safe to assume the civilization the demon destroyed was scientifically advanced too.';

'>>92642142
Especially for royalty';

'>>92642142
I imagine something like:
>Falin wonders if he's ever going to get married.
>Laios tells her not to worry, he will marry her if necessary.
>Falin smiles and thanks him.
>Marcille looks at them with disgust.';

'>>92642377
>he's
She's, fuck! I screwed it up!';

'>>92613880
>throw an overleveled monster at the party
>fumble every roll
>monster dies in a couple of turns
Every time.';

'>>92614310
i love Trigger so much it's unreal';

'>>92620058
>>92620525
so its basically like Wizardry, where if your party dies you can roll a new one and take it down to recover their corpses and revive them?';

'>>92614310
I fucking love trigger. I'm glad they did justice to Dragon Falin.';

'>>92634958
you seem like a better fit for Reddit. Not even trying to be insulting or snarky, but I just think your sensibilities would be better suited there and not here.';

'>>92643376
trigger is at their best when theyre not doing the stories themselves. Its sad but Trigger needs Gainax more than they know';

'>>92629177
>thinking lesbians don't frequently pick one fictional male scrimblo to be obsessed with
have you ever known one in real life';

'>>92643481
Well, Marcille has never shown any type of lust for any woman, but she has for men. You can minimize it all and drag her into bi, but she ain't full gay.';

'>>92643362
Exactly like that. You could also be post-death rescued by people who do that sort of thing for a living, though its shown that those sorts are usually pretty much extortionists.
Unlike Wizardry there's no guarantee that corpse will still be there when you find them again. The dungeon monsters act more like normal animals and will just consume a body left lying around in time.';

'>>92643394
Gainax is an empty copyrights holder.';

'>>92643850
In addition to this, I'm pretty sure that they established in one of the manga omakes that, even if monsters don't eat the corpses, stray ghosts could literally try to stuff themselves into a corpse, leading to a person basically going insane if they get revived because their soul and the ghost are fighting for control of the brain.';

'>>92614088
This board has literally been following this series since the first volume dropped in Japan.';

'>>92635562
It's a combination of the two.
Grogs didn't bother teaching the new kids HOW to play, so they filled in the gaps with how cRPGs work. Ironically, the only reason why "kill all the monsters" ended up being how EXP was earned is because that was the simplest way to keep the game engaging without having the game have to figure out how to divy it between players individually based on what they did.';

'>>92641785
>raised from the dead
>mentally diminished frankenstien monster
>not a zombie!
kys faggot retard';

'>>92643541
This is you lying your ass off. At best she's bisexual.';

'>>92643541
Bro that's... not attraction. I think you might be autistic. You know blushing isn't girls getting a boner, right?';

'>>92634760
>But mules aren't superior to both outside of a narrow role.
>And Hybrid vigor's generally a myth
That ain't right though. Mules are stronger, tougher, they live longer on average, and they're even more intelligent. This is the case with a bunch of hybrid creatures, just not all.';

'>>92645311
Resurrection isn't raising the dead and chimera falin is very much a living thing rather than an undead being. She is not a zombie by any stretch of the definition';

'>>92645677
Obviously not a zombie rules as written. Never heard of metaphor?';

'>>92645311
>Fully alive
>Mental issues explicitly stated due to being enchantment by Lunatic Sorcerer and being turned into a chimera
So, not a zombie in slightest, unless you go by the original definition where zombies didn't even need to be death, just mind/soul controlled.';

'>>92635286
Her thighs aren’t going to magically stop being fat next frame just because she gets smashed through a wall.';

'>>92635488
Your retarded faggot ass thinks broadcasters pan away and apply blurring to scenes of violence irl lmao.
News flash loony toon physiques don’t take over in your final moments.';

'>>92643362
I didn't realize Wizardry had that kind of death mechanic. That game really lodged itself permanently inside the minds of absolutely every single tabletop Jap didn't it? It's like they literally have never heard of any other fantasy game.';

'>>92613880
So they get revived later right?';

'>>92645954
If you've ever wondered why a western fantasy concept is different in Japan, the answer is most likely Wizardry.';

'>>92646461
Or Dragon Quest.';

'>>92644991
XP for gold was a thing
What even was the rationale for removing that from AD&D? If you want to call it unthematic if the party isn't just out to get rich, what if the party isn't out to kill things?';

'>>92635488
nta but the manga was written by a woman. and I personally consider it to be a fairly feminist series as there is a large female cast that are all as fleshed out as any male counterparts. Idk, I know what you mean with a lot of anime but this is a really well thought out series that cares a lot about it's characters. Violence in this show is sudden and decisive for the most part. It's not supposed to be exploitative it's naturalistic. The show also has plenty of detailed depictions of fantasy monsters being prepared to be eaten, but in the same way that skinning a chicken isn't "gore" unless you have the privilege to be very distant from the preparation of your food as most modern people are. People die quickly and the camera doesn't pull away but it also doesn't linger. You type like you are underage though, and a lot of anime is edgy trash so I'm willing to just assume you're having a bad day or something. This really is not anything like, idk Goblin Slayer for example. You're just coming across as a silly person. truly I get what you mean, but this particular series is not part of the phenomenon you are thinking about.';

'>>92646672
I was meaning for cRPGs; instead of making the game's AI arbitrarily give EXP based on what the player does or how much gold each character earns, they just made beating monsters be the only way to get it.

As for why AD&D took it out, I assume its because it was a victim of trying to solve the Monty Hall problem for DMs instead of teaching them to stop stocking their dungeons like they're Fort Knox whenever they need fro their players to level up.';

'>>92614126
People who don't shit their diapers when a fucking party wipe happens and understand that people don't fizzle away in a wipe dissolve when they get killed in a fantasy story.';

'>>92633934
>I think Delicious is a pretty cool dog. Eh eats Dungeon and doesn't afraid of anything

Fixed that.';

'>>92614126
I haven't watched Dungeon Meshi but I like good animation and fantasy so maybe me, by the looks of it, I guess?';

'>>92647093
If i wasn't already aware that most people who watch anime are loathe to ever read manga, I'd be confused as to why a series that /tg/ has been supporting and doing monthly threads for since the first volume came out in Japan is being treated like its new.';

'>>92647144
I love the manga, and so watching a well made adaptation of a story I love is a lot of fun for me. And this is anecdotal but several people I know read the manga after years of me occasionally mentioning that they would like it after watching the anime and feeling impatient about the weekly release. Sometimes people liking things is fine and good';

'>>92647144
The anime brought in a lot of new fans, some of whom are autistic enough to be on /tg/ but were not previously autistic enough to read the manga.';

'>>92645523
Kabru has been shown to be so attractive that he makes women blush the first time they see him look straight at them. This happens a few times in the series. It shows she isn't so gay that she would be completely unaffected by it.';

'>>92643541
>>92647657
Picrel

Conversely, I'm a completely straight dude but I'm 80% certain I'd go gay for his blue-eyed semitwink ass.';

'A lot of buttblasted redditors in this thread';

'>>92647705
Who knows, maybe you would, I'm just going by what the author has shown us. Women have instinctive lust for Kabru, and Marcille is no exception.';

'>>92634958
>he says, posting in /tg/';

'>>92634958
>vore
>east Asia
Do you really think vore was a Japanese thing? I associate it far more with Western furries. In my American southern high school in like 2008 I had a weird classmate who doodled Sonic characters on the bus and bragged that he had an interest in "vore" when he was called a fag, acting smug and superior when no one invariably knew what the hell he was talking about. But I did, unfortunately. So I casually asked him what the appeal of being swallowed was, and he was horrified that I knew his "secret" that he openly and proudly stated himself more than once. I'm not really sure what that was about but the look on his face was priceless.';

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'>>92643481
I don't hang out with the mentally ill';

'>>92631451
>anti racetraitor
More like Chilchad';

'>>92646672
>>92646955
A couple of reasons. It was made optional as 2e was written more as a toolkit than a rigid system. Switching also meant that players could expect a fair and consistent distribution of XP rather than relying on the DM's whim. It also simplified in-game economics, which was a major consideration because older D&D is basically a resource management game pretending to be a roleplaying game that is actually two wargames in a trenchcoat. It gave an incentive for players to run hexcrawls in wilderness settings. But probably the most obvious reason is that they realized the majority of players and DMs were there for combat anyways.';

'> Female torso + oversized monster body
I love that trope';