'It’s time for another Heaven Burns Thread, where you beat chapter 5.1 or you will be fed (with spoilers).
New story chapter, massive developments and a strong boost for our main pairing RukaYuki both from the story and their new and first Unison pair style. It’s finally getting appropriately yuri in here. Do I smell Ichigo x Higuchi? Next up will be KareTsuka for sure. Believe.
A new monthly event centering on Bungo came out and gives us more insight into WakkiBungo’s relationship. Enjoy it, because this is all we get for a while.
The popularity poll was finished and did not shake up the prior rankings much on the character side, but there are some significant changes on the style popularity. Sharo seems to be the biggest winner in both rankings from sheer upward momentum.';

'>>4168347
For everyone who is interested, here is a list of all full songs from the new chapter and the Bungo event.

「くそ暑い日の誓い」(Vow on a damn hot day)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vujXKRXilWo
「ワルキューレの叙事詩」(The epic of the Valkyrie)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksM-8LQ3cns
Welcome to the front line!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KswvcRoXpU
「ディベートソルジャー」(Debate Soldier)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdYm1B4LwuY
World We Changed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJfKGEEiQIo
Bougainvillea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXFucQIrJ_w
陽のさす向こうへ (Beyond the sun)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0soyOe961k
Sailing Ship (Broken ver.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5WPQN66ZOw

Note that EbonKnight unlists the songs on their channel after a while to avoid copyright strikes, so do keep that in mind. This is mainly supposed to help those who don't know the names of the songs.';

'How would 31F react in a room where you can't leave unless you kiss?';

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'King Ruka and her Knight Yukki... and that sneezing gag from the memory episode.';

'Tama needs her needs satisfied Megumi-san.';

'>>4168200
It's not an event delay, it's their vacation. The staff has been working nonstop for at least 2 years. This is the first time they take a vacation.';

'>>4168361
That's normally what recap episodes are for. We had those 3 times? now. Those take comparatively little effort and we didn't coincidentally have one of those now. That was supposed to be the break.

They probably ran into time constraints with the main story episode and had people do overtime too much or something though. So the extra month without anything was likely born from management issues. Easy to imagine how everyone had supposed to have free, but shit happens and they still had to come to work to fix the issues, so the initially planned free days didn't happen.';

'>>4168370
Recap episodes? Are you serious? HBR doesn't have any of those you weirdo. This Bungo event at most reuses a few convos from chapter 1, but it's mostly original content.';

'>>4168361
>it's their vacation
Anon, that's just corporate tech speak. When they say they need time to rest, what they likely mean is that their event pipeline is getting too close to the real-time distribution deadlines, and they need some time to adjust it back to a position where they feel comfortable. They're not actually going to just casually chill for a month doing nothing, they're still working there.';

'>>4168372
Or so you say. Obviously some people need to stick around for maintenance and to make sure stuff is working in this 24/7 online game, but there are labor laws in Japan now that force them to actually give their drones vacations and it is pretty common these days that these are pushed off so long that they have to force them out of the office for a while.
They picked an appropiate time (released a main chapter, released a new event that newcomers can play too and released a card battler side mode that people can grind). It's not coincidence that they pushed out so much content at once. It was to create breathing room exactly for this gap, which simply wouldn't be the case if they just ran out of time.';

'Something pretty good about events lately is that they don't force you through super long dungeon segments anymore. They are generally very short. They could have easily padded out the chapter 1 segments with repeating the dungeons you went through with 31A, but they didn't.';

'>>4168352
>陽のさす向こうへ (Beyond the sun)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0soyOe961k
So is this the correct full version? Some anon kept complaining that all videos of the song were incomplete or glued together.';

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'RukaYukki...';

'This may be a bit heavy for the usual conversation, but it's something I think is important for understanding HBR. The game in general, but especially chapter 5.1 are strongly ANTI-SUICIDE. Like that seems to be the main message below all the abstract plot.

There is of course the very obvious one. Higumin's entire character is basically someone who suffers the consequences of lightly taking her own life. The karma she acrued from comitting suicide has caused her to lose everything that made her her, except desire for knowledge. And now she has to live this horrible existence to the very end so she can be reincarnated in a better way. But there is also hope that she can still find joy and heal herself with those around her, which is why she thinks staying with 31B might be part of regaining her humanity.

This of course leads to Higumin preventing Yuki from killing herself and forcing her to regain her stability. It is so important that even in the Bad End she still continuously keeps her alive.

Then there is Ruka's mother. Ruka assumed that her mother might have killed herself after finding out about her daughter being a fake but the message of the ending is that undeniably she did not commit suicide and that she found a way to go on by the kindness of another. To express her love even in those circumstances.

Then there is the 2nd Angel Beats event, which surprisingly foreshadowed a lot of 5.1. Kirisaki killing himself in front of Hisako (even if it was on TV) deeply traumatized her. That wasn't his intention though and ultimately is a deep regret. Because suicide hurts those close to you. And then when he died he just got stuck in an eternal hell where he can't die and is all alone until he finally confronted his issues with Hisako. Suicide was not the solution. It's not an escape.';

'>>4168469
The Hisame event also tackled the topic very lowkey. Showing the desperation of the situation even if you try to do it for a "noble" reason, you still just end up hurting others with suicide. Hisame lost control is now stained in blood, the one thing that her friends wanted to prevent.

Akari's event has her basically constantly saying she wants to die or is fine killing herself if it will just get her out of everyone's way, but the final message is that she can improve and that she is loved. Even Fubuki basically being in control over her life or death is a way to get away from suicide.

Sharo's event has her basically lose everything over and over and being plagued by PTSD and self-hatred, yet the one thing she does is keep going. She continues to fight, even when she has no hope, because that's what her comrades wanted. And eventually she found people who loved her because of that perserverence.

It's everywhere in the game. Anti-suicide, continiuing on and rebirth.';

'>>4168469
Funny, this anti-suicide message only works because in HBR world there is something after death.';

'>>4168474
Not exactly, as I pointed out the game also shows the direct effects suicide has on those around the people who commit it. There are several layers of why it's portrayed as bad (and obviously is irl too). The karma thing is really just holding you at gunpoint so you finally get it... proverbially speaking.

Overall the point is that you can tell Maeda, someone who has many times had suicidal thoughts and phases, wrote this. I'm rather proud that he has such a firm stance on this message. The writing reflects his struggles I'd say.';

'From collective standpoint it is bad. No wonder, dead person is useless, alive - at least potential workforce. From individual standpoint... I can imagine life so horrible that suicide is genuinely an option. It is a sin only because society needs it to be that way.

>The karma thing is really just holding you at gunpoint so you finally get i
If karma and reincarnation exists you have no option but to live till the end. Otherwise your next life is gonna be even shittier. And karma is unfair bitch. How the fuck are you supposed to learn your lesson if you don't even remember them happening?

Yes, in most cases suicide is not the answer and there will be a better day. But not for everyone.';

'>>4168488
Murder is also illegal and a bad thing in almost all cases, but sometimes you can spin scenarios where it is "justified". You still have to understand that to have exceptions you need a rule. Suicide by default is bad. And many suicidal people will very quickly take your leeway and claim it's too horrible to live and this is one of the exceptions. To prevent this you must approach all suicides as a bad thing first.

Not to mention that you focus is entirely self-centered here. It's not about workforce either. Most suicidal humans have people they care about. Usually suicidal people don't hate everyone else, they just don't care about themselves. And the point is that very often they hurt others with their actions, even though they think they will only hurt themselves.

Above all the message in the game isn't "suffer for suffering's sake", but rather that things will get better. If you don't live on the possibility for that dies with you. I think it is very important that a game about loss, tragedy and sadness has so much hope, happiness and force of will to balance itself. It's not a nihilistic story, despite all the seemingly pointless darknes.';

'>>4168492
>And the point is that very often they hurt others with their actions, even though they think they will only hurt themselves.

Actually, many suicidal people are aware that their actions will hurt others. This usually only adds onto the guilt since they can't help feeling like dying regardless.

But I somewhat agree with the rest. I don't think that HBR's message is just "suicide bad because it hurts others" (because it really depends on an individual's specific circumstances and how self-aware they are and why they want to die), but about how to deal with such feelings, and how to find hope to live regardless.';

'>>4168443
All my homies love RukaYuki.';

'I just absolutely love how Razing Eclipse final form makes Aoi completely useless. People who just coasted through the game by virtue of her scummy block skill all get torn a new one in that fight.
They did a few things to make that fight actually last a bit longer against conventional tactics, but not so hard that normal players can't beat it at all.';

'Loli hunters';

'Loli hunters everywhere';

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'>All of you can die for all I care
>Except for you Izumi, you're cool
Two of my favorite characters, loved their interactions.';

'>>4169308
The fact that Higumin of all people has several options to flirt with girls and even lectures Yukki on being too heteronormative is quite something.';

'In the final dungeon bringing Yuina along is great just to hear her call Tama barbaric.';

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'>>4169597
Tama can't believe this harlot';

'https://gs-ch.com/articles/contents/arcUTKmEBXWn59A96cG8iWf3
This month's 4koma batch. I have no idea what the schedule is anymore.';

'>>4169615
These have become pretty good. I love how Koju keeps hounding Misarin now. And seeing three 31X ones in a row makes me happy (why is Maria dreaming that her and Irene sleep together I wonder).
But these AoIchi ones are the highlight every time.';

'Randomly stumbled upon a bigger version of the new album cover.';

'By the way, if you have a 1080p (or less) display, the way She is Legend website does backgrounds makes for pretty good wallpapers.';

'>>4169647
This one too';

'Someone started translating the 4koma.
https://mangadex.org/title/f8324cf2-4964-406c-a9e8-57d444e930f4/heaven-burns-red-official-4-koma';

'>>4170087
A few questionable word choices especially in the Megumin parts, but overall a solid effort. This certainly won't make much sense to people who don't play the game though.';

'I'm really curious to see if the chapter split was justified when the other parts are released. In the case of 4, it was crystal clear that it was a story line split in two with a very convenient split point. But 5.1 feels like a very substantial stand-alone story chapter, with most of its plot threads resolved. Even if some threads like one sword would continue into the next one, it doesn't have to be a split. For example, 4.1 directly follows the plot of 3, but it's still 4.1, not 3.2. So it will be really interesting to see how 5.2 goes.';

'>>4170122
It makes sense to split on two levels, depending on how well they follow through.
Macro level: This is all one big campaign to take back Kyushu. Osaka --> Shikoku --> Kyushu. It's portrayed as one big line. The fact that Kyoto was just an afterthought to 4.2 was surprising, but I guess they wanted to accelerate the progression.
Micro level: One sword, original Ruka's death, Hinata Kayamori's death, how did PomPom transform, Ruka's dad, time travel shenanigans and consequences, Yuina's premonition being countered (aka changing fate) and of course how Pompom Ruka managed to get recruited to the Seraph unit and where she was for those 29 years. This chapter set up a TON of stuff and resolved almost nothing.

Next chapter is going to be about Karerin and consequently also about Tsukasa, but I'm pretty sure that as the middle chapter it will be the most fillerish. So to make it more relevant they will continue some of the plot points from 5.1 and maybe also give more backstory on Tsukasa's mother, who seems to be still one of the most important characters in all this. We never learned what really happened to her other than Tsukasa's claim that she was killed and it was made to look like an accident by the military.';

'>>4169615
I wonder if the author made the isekai adventure joke a little too early. I think there will probably be a more blatant "jrpg hero" themed alt for someone later on.';

'>>4170149
Maria's knight armor is pretty on point already though. It looks like a more modest version of stuff you'd see in older Dragon Quest titles.';

'I have a feeling that the scene in the 5.2 preview is not just a metaphorical/schizophrenic representation of Karen's inner dialogue, but her spiritual world. The world that represents her soul, with her consciousness in it. With her being able to access it herself because of her circumstances. And Ruka's actual spiritual world is the main menu, her home but without connection to the actual timeline. And what Megumi did in 5.1 wasn't connected to the actual spiritual world concept. I think her psychics are very intention/desire/mental state based, and because she wanted to help Ruka uncover her past, she just sent her into the past, thinking what she's doing is the spiritual world power. Because she said that it was something that all psychics learn, and I don't think they just casually teach time travel to everyone.';

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'>>4170478
Cmon Maeda if there's anyone that can have the protagonists be an official yuri couple in this waifu pandering dominated industry its gotta be you.';

'>>4170594
Not sure why he specifically is the one who is supposed to be the yuri man, but obviously there were several gacha who had official yuri. Even right now we have Towa Tsugai.

As for HBR, this RukaYukki thing really has come pretty far, pretty early. I actually wonder how it could possibly be delayed that much longer. Then again by the end Yukki was in full gay panic denial mode again... it seems it all depends on Ruka in the end. Yukki may have realized she needs Ruka, but I feel like that might not be enough, because of her insecurities.';

'>>4170706
I don't expect Ruka to ever get officially paired up. The protagonist issue. She's gonna be last, if she's lucky.
Wouldn't mind if they subvert my expectations and her getting a girlfriend domino effects the other pairings, but USUALLY the main character(s) are last. Bonus: No stabby stabby from Sharo, because she'll have her own girl by then.';

'>Squad leaders sit on the front row?
>Nah I'd rather sit with Yuki';

'>>4170796
I'm not sure if it's such a big deal for them that she's the protagonist, she gets more yuri pandering than any other character, and she's the first one to get her unison, so I think they're okay with that. I'm more worried about Tama in this sense, because the percentage of waifu/moe fags in her fanbase is absolutely off the charts, do they even have the guts to actually give her something substantial.';

'>>4170706
Maeda publicly claimed his yurifagging, I don't know what woke him up, but he said it started 5 years ago (since the tweet is a year old, it's now 6 years).';

'>>4170857
He was quoting this fanart btw.
Also, he said he finished Blue Reflection: Maboroshi ni Mau Shōjo no Ken.';

'In the previous thread, there was a point raised about miko Megumin winning over suit in the popular vote because she was more "girlish" or something like that. But after watching several streamers play 5.1 final boss with 31A suit teams, I think it was purely a gameplay thing. I'm now convinced that the average casual player just doesn't understand how Megumin's suit skill works. They don't understand what permanent means, they don't understand that it stacks with the other debuffs, and the 1 use only makes them afraid to use it. It's a min max gameplay style, not something normal people want.
So I think cool-looking Megumin styles will still be on the menu, they just need to give them less weird skills.';

'>>4170871
Dark Megumi is pretty pointless in dark, meanwhile try playing fire without her fire version.
Sure, you can stack it with other kind of debuffs, but that is hardly relevant due to the limited party size. And the one fight I'm actually using dark for (Flathand ch3 weekly boss) you have two phases, where she flatout doesn't work.';

'>>4170857
That wasn't what I meant, but alright.
From what I recall he had a really rought patch a couple of years ago (the suicidal type, hence that whole convo up in this thread) and he apparently wrote a really, really depressing yuri short novel. Maybe he found salvation in the blessing of yuri... or something. That being said the key stories he has worked on always had the slightest touch of yuri subtext. It was always in him to a degree.
Unfortunately he is not very good at it, considering how many times he writes heteronormatvie convos into HBR. It's so frustrating, because you know the characters are gay, but they always have to go on about how they should be into boys whenever the topic of romance comes up. I think Maeda might not believe in lesbians who know they are lesbians for some reason.

>>4170858
Blue Reflection? The first game of all things? That one isn't yuri at all. The first game is completely devoid of yuri subtext even. The main characters don't end up with guys or anything, but the only romantic topic in that game is side-girls who have boyfriends.
The second game is the one that has all the actual yuri content. And some of the anime has strong subtext I guess.

So he only played the one thing without any yuri. Kinda pointless.';

'>>4170873
Uh... you can increase her uses though. If you level it up you can use her skill twice. It stacks with itself too. No idea what the hell you are going on about.';

'>>4170873
>but that is hardly relevant due to the limited party size.
Is it that much of an issue? Something like A-san, fubuki+megumi, yuki/iroha, crit buffer + muua(or tama + another healer/defender) feels fine to me.';

'>>4170871
>people don't know how to use suit Megumin
Kinda true. I've seen it many times. I always get frustrated when players don't immediately use it to the moment her ult is read. It's not a damage ult, it's purely for the permanent debuff. Just throw it out the second she has 15 SP and forget about it. There is not a single downside to just using it.';

'>>4170882
Even better, if you have SS2 Muua you can use her skill replenish ult to replenish both uses for Megumin, so she can use that ult 4 times. Not relevant for stacking, because debuffs only stack twice, but this actually lets you let loose with that ult even in dungeons.';

'>>4170882
No, its not really wrong. There was an issue where cutscene form-changes would remove permanent debuffs, which is annoying but manageable for Sharo, but super obnoxious for Megumi because she only gets 2 uses on her ult, she can't double stack it twice on her own. The reason why her ult is so limited is a real mystery, it really isn't THAT strong. I thought they designed it around some self-skill recovery ability she'll get later on an S style, but it's been 3 months and she still hasn't gotten anything.';

'>>4170891
So you were talking about double stacking Flathand in both phases? Should have been more specific then... Well I just mentioned Muua SS2 which can basically remedy that, but it is sucky to need another character to make up for that issue.
I also don't know why her ult is limited to 2 uses. Sharo's is the same, but even better and she can use it 4 times. If suit Megumi had the darkness version of resistance removal, then sure. Limit that shit to a single use for all I care, makes sense. But that's not what it is.';

'AkaMisaRisa is the OG 31D triangle.';

'>>4170857
I think 5 years in this context means when he started developing hbr as an all girl yuri thing, not specifically when he got interested in yuri. As another anon said earlier, some of his older work already had noticeable yuri (or yaoi) undertones for some characters, but it felt like he wasn't confident enough to actually write it.';

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'I don't now whether I'm glad or sad that they didn't retcon more Amari into the Bungo event. Obviously they weren't that close in chapter 1, so it's not reasonable to ship tease, but at the same time I wouldn't have objected.';

'If Ruka dies... would her narvy form retain its memories and intelligence? I mean she was one of the few narvy who actually still had her brains. In that sense she wouldn't become a Lost Narcy, but actually just return to who she was + Ruka's memories. She can even still fight with seraph.
Just saying, maybe Ruka biting it wouldn't be the end. Maybe she knows a way to transform again.';

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'Anon you dont need to post everything you see on danbooru, we already posrted most of those directly from Twitter ages ago.';

'Will AoIchi actually be replaced by HiguIchi?';

'>>4172626
No';

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'>>4172626
Yes';

'>>4172673
At least Higumin is not going to jump to take a bullet for her.';

'https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1770404927648469075
>Koju VA on stream
I guess we know one of the new styles now.';

'>>4172927
Ain't it cuz it's Koju's birthday? Also literally KojuRaji irl.';

'>>4172935
Likely both? They will probably use her birthday to fill the screen time with something, but it would also be silly to introduce other character styles with her sitting there when her style should be released soon anyway.';

'This goes into 5.1 spoilers, so be aware.

There is a theory that Ruka was originally meant to die at this point in time. Of course there is the Bad Ending that shows exactly that and how 31A continues to work even after that, with its own ending credits and all. But there is also Yuina who says for the first time her divine revelation was wrong, that they changed fate. There is even talk about how Seira's fortune telling predicted it as well. Every time she looked into Ruka's future and talked about a "fated person" it was in darkness with a Cancer. Her fate was to be eaten by Razing Eclipse. The joke was foreshadowing just like so many others. Guess we will only know if there is another fortune telling in 5.2+ that changes her fortune.

There are some other hints, but overall the idea seems to be that Ruka should have died here and that fate changed. But most of the story had Ruka predict some future developments or be instinctively aware of it, so how could Yukki and co. have changed fate on their own? That's where the time travel stuff comes into play. Butterfly effect aside, the way to get the good ending is to collect enough memory pieces during the time travel segments. It's not at all explained what the connection between those two things is. I assumed that Ruka's mental state being more stable from regaining memories increased her willpower long enough to be saved, but it's too vague to confirm. Losing one of her swords also seems connected to her mental state though, as being reminded of her mother's scream is somehow related. So it all goes back to the time travel/memories.

The even crazier theory is basically Steins;Gate. Yukki from the dead Ruka timeline survived long enough to use time travel to change Ruka's fate somehow. Hence Ruka remembering future events.';

'>>4172246
Sou nano ka?';

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'>>4172927
My guess (my cope)
New Koju = fire sharo so I can finally use another element other than lightning

Other style = Sumomo AOE fire breaker since Yukata Yuki is still the only SS fire breaker. Also they seem to be on a roll with these buff removal breakers recently.

Theme is maybe idols again so they can complete the set?';

'>>4173546
Datamine is out, Koju is a weird buffer for some reason.';

'Looking at the art, I think it was originally supposed to be fire like Aoi/Ichigo, but then they just changed their minds.';

'>>4173560
>It's an arts battle style
Remind me again why our 'roguelike' is about trying to stay in the same area by relying on the luck of the cards while other proper roguelikes is about constantly advancing and acquiring new buffs and artifacts. They just had to force in standard fights while logically you should be using the cards in battle';

'Why did Koju get the leader morale boost skill out of all the characters. I don't expect the gameplay to follow the lore very closely, but there should be at least some connection between the two.';

'>>4173531
>>4168358
Dumbass';

'>>4173563
Waitress? Really? Ugh.

>>4173584
If you make your deck right and use your wits you can basically skip almost all fights. Megumin + Ruka + Ichigo wipes out almost the entire board. Higumin + Koju guarantee you keep drawing them. The rest buffs you constantly for boss fights.';

'>>4173546
>New Koju = fire sharo so I can finally use another element other than lightning
It feels like they want that effect to be a thunder thing for now. Dark Megumi was the prefect moment to introduce it for dark and they did the weird perma debuff thing instead. This Koju was the perfect moment to give it to fire and she's not even a debuffer.
It would be funny if they're saving it for the unison, so it would be fucking limited.';

'>>4173560
>buffer for some reason
Her SS1 literally had a buff ult. She was always a weird debuffer/buffer hybrid.';

'Can we talk about how Sumomo S has a lightning self-buff that also puts aggro on enemies? It suits her character and all but that is so fucking weird. Why would you want the enemy to aggro on your Breaker? That might be useful in super niche situations, but it's almost a downside for a pretty standard self-buff.';

'>>4173603
>Why would you want the enemy to aggro on your Breaker?
It's for her SS1 ult upgrade. That one requires aggro on the enemy to be active(Aoi lore reference), but it's actually annoying to fulfill, so they gave her a skill so she can do it herself.
But I feel like it's a little too late to strengthen that style, it's super outdated now, it would have been better to give her a good generic effect that would work with her future SS3.';

'>>4173605
I mean, most people transfer SS1 ults to new styles, so it will always be relevant to a degree, unlike if they made support for a alt style. Also maybe they want to double down on that gimmick and her SS3 will also rely on aggro in some way. But with how they do styles these days I would assume aggro is build-in for that ult...';

'>>4173607
>I mean, most people transfer SS1 ults to new styles, so it will always be relevant to a degree, unlike if they made support for a alt style.
I'm just thinking about how, for example, Wakki's 2nd S is a self 5hit buff. Then her latest SS has an innate 5hit buff when she enters battle, so she only needs to use it once to get double stack, and can use saved sp to distribute it to the other characters with her normal skill. And because it's generic, her future style could utilize it in a different way. While Sumumo's new skill feels super focused on her og ult, even though that ult is nothing amazing to begin with.';

'Koju's day in the spotlight is already over. Say hello Hisame's birthday. And unlike Koju she has an actual pairing. HisaIno ftw';

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'It will actually be good if they slowly move Koju out of debuffer class like this. That class had like 2x time more character than necessary on release, you don't need 9 debuffers for only 5 elements, they start overlapping way too quickly. Buffers don't suffer from this because they have a lot more effects to play with.';

'Wait... if BrackenKnot was considered a hub Cancer why did it not leave behind of those pillars? I get that DesertDendron and PrayingEels don't, but I thought hubs always leave pillars?';

'>>4173659
I think they skip these scenes for mid bosses because they want players to have a strong expectation of pillar = final boss killed. So they have this "yeah, I fucking did it" reaction when they see it.';

'>>4173665
Right. Now that I think about it some monthly events also probably had Hubs who didnt become pillars. I guess it's just for big milestones. It's definitely a bit too gamey for me though. I'd prefer consistency.';

'To quiote Carol, this is an American size burger. I do kinda like the 31B symbol on there.
Other than the style reveals there wasn't anything too interesting. Koju's VA talked about That Day's Friend, which is nice I guess.';

'>>4173716
Forgot the pic';

'I wish the devs cared a little more about adding so-called "flavor" to the gameplay. You'd think the character whose whole point is to interact with the ghosts and be chuuni would have some spooky abilities or see something others can't, not be a waitress who boosts everyone's morale round after round. It may not feel like something important, but such things actually add to the mysterious "soul" of the game. You can really tell that this ability was there without any character attached to it, and they just picked Kozue for this released time, but it could have been any other buffer.';

'>>4173855
Actually Koju can definitely fit that role. Her Koju Radio is all about helping out people with troubles and encouraging them. It's the part of her personality that is not related to ghosts for once (even though they do make jokes about her having ghost guests without knowing).
No idea what that waitress uniform is for. Maybe because she "serves" the public with her esper work.';

'>>4173877
>Her Koju Radio is all about helping out people with troubles and encouraging them.
This skill's effect is more of a mechanical representation of those speeches Ruka makes when 31A goes to fight the newest greatest abomination, I don't think it fits kojuraji in this context.
>No idea what that waitress uniform is for.
Because Aoi was a waitress, so it's just random cross-unit synergy like how Yuki had the fairy tale theme following Karen.';

'Speaking of unit synergy, there has been some speculation recently about fairy tale styles, but I wonder if 31A will actually continue all of their original themes.
When you think about it, we already had follow-ups on Ruka's first alt(Yuki SS4) and Karen's first alt(Yuki SS5). You can also count Tama's swimsuit as a follow up on Tsukasa's first alt, even though swimsuits are their own thing. So that leaves us with Megumi SS2, magical girl Tama and yukata Yuki. I don't know about Megumi's style, it's hardly a theme, but magical girl and yukata seem very likely to reappear.';

'I know nobody memes about it because nobody cares about her, but it's been like 2 years since Kanata got her SS1. She's actually worse off than Ichigo and Misa, the prime SS2 Never meme characters.
This is extra weird, because as far as the writers are concerned she is clearly a favorite, considering how often she gets screentime in events.';

'>>4173961
They don't want to bring her up so that people don't remember that her first style was already a unison style without any fanfare and limited bullshit.';

'>>4173966
Not really a Unison style and more of a gag. Also that doesn't explain why she didnt get any for the last 2 years before that was a thing.';

'Since Shimoda is showing his rat ass again next stream I hope he actually addresses the game instead of doing another Maeda music glazing session or the nth recap stream. Seeing as how there's no event for the majority of next month, he'll definitely have to talk about the abysmal production cycle at least. But there better be talk about the absolute state of Arts Battle and game balance in general.';

'>>4174136
Or maybe you are just nuts.';

'>>4174136
Well the balance isn't that bad. You can still use launch styles even after 2 years and they do buff old styles. I don't really like Arts Battle though, should've just make it completely card based with no battle. The only thing I don't understand is why there isn't a difficulty option for the main story since they seem to have dropped the high difficulty approach.';

'>>4174219
It seems some people still don't understand the point of Arts Battle. It is supposed to let you level up skills. So the battles are essential. You can just put it on auto and let your team run it so it's like the arena mode's auto-leveling. Only downside is that you have to check in occasionally to restart the run. But that's still less cumbersome than the shuttle run nonsense.
If you build the right deck even the stupid AI can somehow manage to get pretty far with some decent RNG, though the point is more to let them spam skills.

If you actually wanna get the high score in endless mode of course you need to use your abilities really tactically and think hard of when to use ults. It makes you use skills that are spammable way more, which is again, the best way to level them.
It totally makes sense, but it's not what you would initially expect from a "card battler".';

'>>4174302
You don't need to use skills to level them. The chance to level them is fixed and happens after combat, based on the border of the enemies.

Otherwise my shuttle runs would've never leveled healing skills, or ultimates.. but they level just as much as skills spammed. I haven't done this new version, because holy shit the boring grind to actually unlock endless (done now, on mobile while I had nothing else to do anyways), but I'm not sure if it's even going to be more efficient. As far as I remember, the border mattered, and if the border is very low early on wouldn't that be bad? Or maybe it was border difference.. it's been too long ago reading about that.';

'>>4174302
I get that it's a mode to grind skill level but it still feels like a chore. I've never done shuttle run though. Honestly they could just have the arena drops skill guides at ultra low rate or something.';

'>>4174324
>they level automatically
Then it's battle exp, which still leads to the same result. More battles.
>boring grind
Anon, you sound really whiny right now. All you had to do was beat three normal and three hard mode runs. Maybe a little more if you didnt score enough points to unlock cards. But even then you had the option to just auto it until you had the points. So a grind you don't have to do yourself isn't much of a grind?

>>4174325
The arena auto-leveling is already broken enough as is. Might as well play an auto-clicker game at that point. I like that Arts Battle lets you grind off-screen, but has enough depth to actually make compelling high score runs. Honestly when I look at the top 10 I'm absolutely flabbergasted. My high score is 150k point. I can't imagine how they got that high.

Of course this is the initial mode, it will most likely change over time. Aside from new squad decks, I'm sure they might eventually add a "pure" card mode. The skeleton is there, the meat will follow. I'd call the current state of affairs a proof of concept.';

'Ohh the new Star Raid has a super version of Rotary Mole! I missed that during the news stream. I love the Star Raid BGM. People who don't use the default title screen miss out.';

'>>4174329
It's not battle exp. As I said, it's a CHANCE after a battle, that is higher if the enemy border is higher. I just don't remember if your own stats also matter.

>whiny
It's several months worth of grind you'd normally do. You can call that whiny, but that's a lot for HBR. Considering life stone presents, tickets from SA and such, the extra grind per month, if you want to do that, is about 1 hour. This mode was probably 3-4. Considering that more than half of the usual grind is dungeons, where 90% of the time is running aka you can easily other things during it, it feels like the grind I did in 8 months or so. Which is more than a third of my total playtime.
Yes, compared to other games it might not be a lot, but for HBR? It's a royal fuckton.

>>4174333
You always get the music one time.';

'>>4174345
>several months worth of grind
...what? Most of it is auto so you dont need to even play it yourself and the actual runs you do to beat the modes take maybe 10 minutes tops? If that is a monthly grind to you then you aren't doing much.';

'Got my bible in time...
I mean illustration book.

Nothing really special other than how they design the charas, seraph, and animation.';

'>>4174385
That's the one with 400+ pages, right? Wish I could get it.';

'Alright every Star Raid boss has a gimmick.

RedCrimson: Elemental mode change after every ult.
Feeler: Two of them with opposite types. New ult.
Deathslug: 200k damage limiter x 4 + a new ult.
Rotary Mole: Long lasting defense debuffs + 2 new ults.

I think Rotary Mole's raid is overall not too bad, but those debuffs and ults can really add up. Over time it will obliterate you. The first phase will also get rid of you one-time block buff from the 4 missions challenges.';

'The new tower ult upgrades are Koju and Tsukasa. Maybe this means Tsukasa will finally get a style to catch up with the rest.
Are the upgrades any good? I have no idea how they would improve koju's SS1 without increasing the SP gain.';

'>>4174605
Koju got some dev simping for her hard, her ult got 3(!) upgrades without any downsides. SP increase can now go over 20SP limit, there's a new debuff power increase buff and a normal attack up buff.
Tsukasa got attack buff power increase buff which you can probably try to utilize to insert her over fire Megumi somehow, but Megumi still feels much more stable and convenient to use. I was kind of hoping they would introduce a giga field that you can get by stacking both abilities, but they don't like fun.';

'>>4174632
>dev simps for Koju
Her getting an SS3 before anyone but Aoi certainly suggests it. Her SS1 ult is kind of underpowered though, so it needed some good buffs. 5sp for everyone was ok, but at this point spending 13sp for that instead of boosting OD or buffing in other ways is not that good.

The disparity between these ult improvements between characters is pretty crazy though.';

'>>4174302
>It is supposed to let you level up skills
Maybe if you want to afk grind on the PC, otherwise 5 ticket gold hopper still gives the highest skill level rate. What else are you going to do with that surplus of dungeon tickets from score attack?
>>4174329
>I can't imagine how they got that high.
It's literally just Tsukasa -> Tama/Higuchi spam. You cannot get past area 11 or 12 no matter how strong you get because of the hard cap. The essence of the mode is literally just hoping you find those two combination of cards while taking the least turns possible. Not to mention that defeating an enemy nets you basically 0 points so it's more of an autistic grind than actual strategy. It's one of those things where after you see what it truly is, you realize just how dogshit it is
>>4174632
>3(!) upgrades without any downsides
The only one that actually matters is the debuff percentage increase and even then 20% additive doesn't justify using any of her 3 SS styles on an optimal comp. Maybe if you need to get really tanky for some reason, but then you'd be spamming her 6 SP skill instead of using her requiem';

'>>4174867
>trying to grind with gold hopper
Whatever anon...
>it's dogshit because there is a winning strategy
Whatever you say anon...
>a bunch if retarded numberfagging
Thast explains who you are anon. Of course it's the dumb numberfag who talks like a madman.';

'>>4174904
I'm just stating the proven facts. If you want to stay deluded and play your way, you're free to do so. Just try to do a bit of research first.';

'>>4174867
Kozue's crit buff is actually really good on her new style. While at first glance it looks worse than say Higuchi's, it isn't if you combine it with Yunyun's hit buff. And again, while it looks worse than Tama suit's buff there, it isn't if you have Muaa. And the advantage is, her style has build in crit-rate power up, so this skill basically guarantees crits with a single 9sp use. I don't know if it hard guarantees it, but I've used this style for dim X and score attack, and never saw a non crit. (skill lvl 10 of course)

Definitely more of a dungeon character, due to her ult stacks remaining, but you can also completely ignore the ult, and simply rely on her other tools (elec def down, the ss1 ult) plus this crit buff. Wouldn't call her broken, unless you are a new player, but she's definitely good.
The lower your dps stats are, the better this ult is though. As an old player, I basically don't use main dps that aren't at least lb1 with lb2 level cap (Maria thunder is the only exception I use for rushing, she's lb0 with lb2 level cap), but that's obviously not something everyone has. If you give Kozue time (which you have in SA) you can get pretty amazing results with not particularly amazing level caps in SA.';

'https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/2261514/vote_result/
Another small scale popularity poll with funny results.';

'>>4174904
NTA but I just did a test with endless on auto, and aside of 0 skill growth it is completely awful due to how badly auto works and damage sponge.

Shuttle runs are clearly superior to this. As sad as it is. I hoped f Arts has at least higher chances, but nope. The battles only take way longer, that's about that. Once you hit a certain point, all enemies transform into sponges (started appearing as of ch 4.1), which is why shuttle runs are still largely done in ch3 even today.

I hope this mode gets scrapped. It serves no point other than grind for score. You'd basically need to completely start anew with the concept, as what we currently have is fundamentally bad.';

'>>4174943
All of this is bullshit because you didnt even try. Make a good deck, actually manually adjust your auto options and don't expect RNG to always work out.
Also wow... a mode you don't care about should be removed just because you say so, when other people enjoy it? Typical entitled bitch.';

'According to datamine anon, a bunch of new expressions for Miya have been added in the new update.
>>>/vmg/1431577';

'They should give Tama a new passive lightning resistance buff.

>>4174932
>Aoi on top
Seems pretty par for the course to me~

>>4174970
We already had those a month ago. Some people assumed this month's event would be a Miya event because of that. If I remember it was mostly Miya and a couple of Fubuki sprites.
But it ended up being the Bungo event.';

'>>4174970
>>4174971
Here these are the ones from last month.';

'>>4174971
>They should give Tama a new passive lightning resistance buff.
There's still this whole attribute resistance system that they never touched, but it's still in the character stats screen for some reason.';

'>>4174974
I wonder if they will ranomdly use it like some of the passive slots they give some characters without any rhyme or reason. Doubt they will do it for the Tama meme though.';

'>>4174973
Aren't these just her normal cut-ins that have always been in the game? I feel like I've seen all of these.';

'>>4174973
Those are cut-ins, not expressions used during VN sections';

'>>4174979
A lot of these are new that much I know for sure. Some were changed somehow (I only know they were updated, not how).

>>4174981
The point is that they already added new Miya stuff a while ago, so it's nothing new. Could be for the next event or could be long term. They have been adding a lot of stuff long before it became relevant.';

'>>4174985
>(I only know they were updated, not how).
Sometimes they just re-upload already existing assess (or it's the anon tool re-uploading them, I don't know), just because you see an updated date in the mega doesn't mean the assets were actually changed or added.';

'>>4174987
That might be the case for the updated ones. But some of these I have never seen used in the game.';

'Haven't seen this artist post AoIchi in a while. How nice to see new art.';

'I wonder what the real Ruka was like in middle-school. Apparently she had a lot of friends.';

'>>4174987
>or it's the anon tool re-uploading them
It's both. I can't be assed anymore to check if anything's changed. Every single update is so bloated with old stuff. I had the game update all of its assets this week and every single image in the 1.8GB download was an already existing one.';

'It was a while ago, but didn't someone say there was proof they were gonna start a Chinese server? The anniversary has come and gone and there is still no peep about that. It would obviously be a mixed bag, but it would still show WFS willingness to expand.';

'>>4175076
The Chinese server is in beta already. It's just not published by WFS, so they absolutely don't care to even mention it.';

'>>4175102
Speaking of CN server, I think this upload from them is the biggest version of this chibi pic I've seen, it's always either too small or too blurry on video.';

'>>4175102
Oh that's good. That means they have no qualms cutting that branch off if the CCP does it's thing. That will also asauge the fears of some people that HBR will get censored everywhere just because of Chinaland. They have their own company to do that just for them.';

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'Speaking of CN, you'd think being purchased by tencent would increase the content output, but they're slowing down instead. Guess being bought out by one of the richest companies in the world puts you in a pretty cushiony situation';

'>>4175146
For fucks sake, WFS was not bought by Tencent. Visual Arts, the parent company of key was. So that has zero influence on WFS content. They are taking one month off and you are acting like content is slowing down when the first three months of this year had crazy content output.';

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'Ok, so some VAs changed their voices over time which is pretty noticable if you play the Bungo event back to back with chapter 5.

Megumi is obvious, she went from high pitched to deep voice. I feel like they kinda overdid it though? Yeah her high pitched chapter 1/2 voice sounded a bit forced, but I think in chapter 5 she sounds likle a middle-aged woman. They kinda had the perfect middle ground in 4.1. It may have not stood out so much if she had that voice from the start of course, but it's kind of jarring.
Second is actually Ruka. Kinda the opposite of the Megumi situation. It's not as noticable at first, but if you really listen to her chapter 1 inflections, she used to do a deeper and more rough voice. Something that probably was meant to go along with the cool/aloof image. By chapter 5 she is clearly using a much lighter voice and she speaks more softly in general. Of course her louder reactions are the same as they used to be, because even back then her shouts and gag reactions were higher pitched than her talking voice.
Hisame's situation isn't fair, because she kept changing voice actresses, but I think the current one is really good.
For Tama it's maybe less her voice changing overall and more that they really love leaning into her screeches. She is using way more of her vocal range for all kinds of exagerated reactions. In chapter 1 she mostly just sounded cutesy, now they allow her to sound like a gremlin.
One thing I noticed in chapter 5 is that Tsukasa's VA sort of struggles to shout with her awakened Tsukasa voice. It sounds super stilted. That is clearly a voice she can only keep up when she talks calmly. On the other hand I think she emotes way more with that voice now (probably thanks to more screentime), so it overall improved.

It's actually amazing that Yukki and Karen are completely unchanged. They hit their sweet spot right away I suppose. Both had to shout their lungs out day one anyway, so I guess they needed to have strong vocal chords.';

'>>4175149
>crazy
NTA, but there was nothing special other than a main story chapter after 10 months. That ain't crazy. That's about time.
The new grind mode couldn't have taken much effort, considering the quality and content. Might've even been done by new workers right out of university. Small studios do this kinda stuff. Before they do important things, do something where it's not a big problem if it doesn't end up good, yet you can still actually benefit from what they do by having "content".';

'>>4175396
>3 months
>extends scope to 10 months
Dishonest.
>I dont like mode, so it is easy to make
Lazy deflection.

3 monthly events (+ one rerun of a limited event that may as well be new to most players) + a new story chapter with all the content that entails + 13 SS styles + 8 new SS memories + 2 entirely new model S styles + an entirely new game mode + like 15 new songs + 2 new live modes + 7 song covers (by Aoi's VA) each with its own rhythm section + 6 tower levels + new Star Raid boss

Now I know what your deflection will be.
>But a lot of this content was probably made over the last year
Irrelevant. All content is made over time. The point is when it comes out.
>A lot of this content is remixed existing content
That's how these games work and if the experience is different that is all that matters.

I don't wanna hear your subjective complaints about whether you like some of this content or not. Objectively, this is a lot in 3 months. Most other gacha have content drip that doesn't even do 1/3rd of this in half a year.';

'>>4175386
>Yukki unchanged
Replay chapter 0, her pitch is high in the entrance ceremony.';

'>>4175417
Her Prologue interactions are literally in the flashbacks during chapter 5 and she sounds the same?';

'>>4175418
No, the anon is right, I was also surprised how much higher she was in the beginning when I watched some streamer starting the game.';

'>>4175423
Just for the one scene at the entrance ceremony though? I think that might just have a different reason then. I probably didn't even notice because she spends half of that scene yelling.';

'>>4175425
Doesn't matter, she still changed and you're wrong.';

'>>4175433
I've seen people play the prologue countless times and I absolutely do not hear it. Plain and simple. It would be incredibly strange for her to change her perfomance from one scene to the next. It's fine if you all hear it, but in the end it's a scene where Yuki tries to speak politely and then spends the other half yelling at the top of her lungs as usual. So it's rather hard to tell, for me at least.';

'>>4175435
Things like your speakers and general sound setting can change your impression a lot. I remember Yukki's scream being more intense during the prologue and the tropical island event. But then again when I played the prologue again recently, Yukki's scream does feel softer so maybe I just get used to it.';

'>>4175535
Yukki's decibel count has only gone up across the game. The Survival Island event is a upper limit point for sure. Then there is the Teheperinko meltdown. And of course chapter 5 has given use some unique screams too, though unlike all the previous times, this was completely justified and I gotta give Yukki's VA serious props. Those were some soul-wrenching screams.';

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'>>4176037
Ouch';

'https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1772171563401392288
>city ads
Just how much faith did they have in this banner.';

'>>4176056
It seems the Koju dev has surpassed the Marifag.';

'>>4176064
Marifag dev might be setting up for this year's swimsuit, don't write them off just yet.';

'>>4176078
And then Maeda will laugh at both of them as he writes his third Yuina event.';

'>>4176079
I think the chances of 31C being relevant this year are decently high "because" it's Maeda. We got 31B representation in the 1st and 30G in the 2nd, so they're the last "primary" squad to appear.
And if they're continuing the tradition, and it's related to chapter 4 this time, then 31C had a story line there, so it would make sense to use them as well. Another option from this perspective is 31D because of Iroha, but let's face it, Iroha is not going to get a swimsuit.
So 31C is my current prediction, not specifically Mari though, A-san or Wakki could get it as well.';

'>>4176079
By the way, Maeda said in the latest famitsu interview that he likes to write Miya lately, and now Miya seems to be be getting something >>4174970 in the future, really makes you think.';

'>>4176084
I know they don't care about that anymore, but as far as SS distribution goes only Seira doesn't have her SS3 yet. So she could very well get the swimsuit if this happened. But then Maeda would have to write the event around her which is never ever going to happen. Her fortune telling and predictions seem to be way more accurate than she lets on (literally every time we have seen her predict something it has happened), but I can't see that being enough of a substitute for the usual swimsuit event madness. And frankly, Seira is pretty boring as a character in general. She is good in the supporting role, but I can't imagine her ever being the focus... her voice actress being forced to always whisper and speak in slow motion doesn't help.

>>4176087
I'm not surprised. Miya is directly related to Yuina and their dynamic is something he carries through all his events. She can both be a tsukkomi and an absolutely bizarre creature, very flexible. Just the way Maeda likes them.

She may not be the most popular choice, but if you pick her in 5.1's finale I seriously love how everyone keeps teasing her about how she is actually really close to Ruka and her being in utter denial about it.';

'>>4176090
She is a fitting character to get a swimsuit style, true. Though I imagine they'd like to get her new style out sooner, so people don't whine about her still not having SS3 when A-san or Mari get their SS4.
Her event could actually be interesting, it's possible to write something clever with interesting meta-narrative tricks around future predictions. Or they can write a story where her powers go into overdrive for whatever reason and we get to see a bunch of alternate futures similar to 5.1's bad ending. Alternatively, they can lean into her shipper side and just do a massive yuri pandering event.
>And frankly, Seira is pretty boring as a character in general. She is good in the supporting role, but I can't imagine her ever being the focus...
Well, that's what the events are for, right? Maeda probably had a plan for her when he created the character.';

'>>4176094
>that's what events are for
Maybe, but generally I can always imagine something for every side-character (except maybe Aina). It's just that Seira literally can't even emote. It's painful to listen to her talk for more than a few lines. I almost fall asleep immediately. Then again, we had an Inori event, where Inori was mute 90% of the time...

They gave her a couple of good traits, like her mesmerizing eyes that seduce girls or her shipping obssession, so you are right that something can be done. But I doubt this has been done on Maeda's input. Chapter 1 and Mari's event gave Seira literally nothing. 31C is also the squad with the least cohesion when it comes to a theme, so I just don't get what Maeda was going for in the first place.';

'>>4176096
>31C is also the squad with the least cohesion when it comes to a theme
I think the "theme" of 31C is cosplayers but with a twist. You have a ninja cosplayer who can use njnjutsu on the level of magic, a maid who is actually a ninja, etc. Though Wakki and Bungo are actual cosplayers but I guess their twist is the reason behind it.';

'>>4176191
I don't quite agree. Seira isn't a cosplayer at all and Miko wearing a witch hat is really stretching it.
My assumption was always that 31C's theme is "evil organisation". WakkiBungo are obvious (mad scientist + familiar), then there is Mari who is a black market shop attendant, Miko who is a "alchemist" (aka a drug dealer who also does human experiments) and I guess Seira could be their evil advisor, the shady fortune lady. The one who doesn't fit in is once again A-san, but I suppose a normal ninja is actually a shadowy assassin... but due to them just playing pretend none of their roles are serious.

I still think the cohesion is very weak. At least 31D being the hobby unit makes their different interests part of the theme.';

'>>4176195
Maid, ninja, wizard, mad scientist all feel like commom cosplay themes to me. Also for me 31D is more the "mental illness" squad for me. Misarin is an Go autist, Aina is a psychopath, Fubuki witth her depression, you name it. The only one that doesn't fit is Risa but she can force others to become babies. Though I just think it's the concept they had in mind when comming up with the squads rather than an actual theme.';

'I feel like a strong concept is more of a thing for the 2nd wave of squads(31D, 31E, 31E, 31X). The first wave of squads is just a diverse bunch of characters that Maeda wanted to add to the game. Then WFS said they needed 4 more and we got 4 more thematic groups.';

'>>4176202
>maid
Mari is not a maid. Her outfit is a traditional shop clerk uniform.
>31D are mental
That can be the second layer. Their main theme is school clubs. Go club, Tennis, Volleyball, band club, art club and I guess the weirde girl that looks after the school aquarium.
>Risa isnt mentally ill
Actually her event focused on the fact that she has abandonment issues and compensates her loneliness by mothering other people.

>>4176206
>The first wave of squads is just a diverse bunch of characters that Maeda wanted to add to the game
31A = Genius squad
Everyone in the squad is a genius at something. Top grade in every rega
rd. Genius musician, genius hacker, genius psychic, genius designer baby, genius gamer/killer and genius information agent.

31B = Death
Veteran leader whose squad got wiped and their deaths haunt her, the assassin sisters, the girls who sees ghosts, the scientist obsessed with death and the deadly creature who lost its master (later they added that Byakko can also see ghosts).

31C is as I said most likely meant to be an evil organisation from a kids show. The joke is that they are all kind hearted and don't fit their roles at all.

And even though you forgot to include them...
30G = Senpai squad
All the reliable senpai traits from stereotypical school senpais. Hisame being the exception on purpose as the gag is that she is the disrespected loli senpai archetype.';

'>>4176208
>Risa
I'm not sure if you can call Risa's problem mental illness.
>school aquarium.
Anon, I don't think it's common to have an aquarium inside your average school.
>31A = Genius squad
Every seraph member is a genius in some ways. If you want a common trait for 31A it would probably be "heroes". Ruka's songs can bring people happiness and actually saved Yukki, Yukki prevented WW3, Tama fighting against cancers as a navy captain, Tsukasa fighting against evil gorvernment to avenge her mother. Karen is a bit of a wild card but she is sort of a dark hero. I don't think there need to be a clear theme for the squads though since the characters are all well developed on their own.';

'>>4176223
Abandonment issues and attachment issues are generally considered psychological problems.
>it's not normal to have an aquarium
Anon I was talking about a fish tank you could have at home. 2-4 cubic meters at most. That is very common in schools.
Of course if you wanna go the extra mile she could have made a marine biology club or something. Stardust Telepath told me they got astrology and archeology clubs in Japanese schools.
>every seraph member is a genius
I don't think that is actually what they are going for. Everyone has something special going for them, yes, but for example I dont think Akari or Risa would be Olympic level at their sports (assuming Risa wasnt selected for her psychic babufication powers). They have special skills, they aren't natural geniuses necessarily like everyone in 31A. 31A managed to all become professional level musicians in two weeks. They managed to beat a level 2 Cancer in two week. Megumin learned to become a psychic god in 2 weeks (okay maybe we count the months before that dome trip, so maybe 5 months). They are geniuses with infinite potential. That's why they are the hope of the Seraph squad.
>heroes
I guess that could be part of it, although I can't see that being the case for KareTsuka to be honest.
>they dont need a clear theme because they are well developed
Not the point. Squads have themes, then the group may have a underlying theme and then individuals have their own themes. That's the three layers. Obviously that's not all that defines them, fleshed out characters are more than some tropes. That's why story and events generally upend the expected trope and turn one-note characters (like Sharo, Muua and Risa) into complex people.';

'>>4176243
I think Megumi was broken even when she thought she wasn't, because based on current lore dumps it sounds like all psychics can do some basic things if they train and then have their own specialized power that they're just naturally gifted at, like X-Men and settings like that. While Megumi seems to be able to do whatever the fuck, but she doesn't have any specialization, so her start was very rough in comparison to anyone else. So if Risa psychic theory is correct, then she can babu everyone like no one ever was based on her spiritual experience, but she will never be able to do all of the bullshit Megumi can do.
I still wonder how Koju ties into the whole thing, is she a psychic (and thus specializes in ghost stuff), or is it an another layer of magic shit of this setting.';

'>>4176321
In general spirit mediums/exorcists like Koju fall into the psychic category, but in Japanese pop culture spiritualism and ESP are not always connected.
However the fact that Megumin could use passive psychic shields to repel evil spirit energy makes me think they are totally related. In the first place the evil spirit aura in Koju's event affecting certain girls at the base is the main foundation for the psychic group theory.

The fact that Risa can see spirits like Koju can, yet both of them have completely different powers (babufication field vs. exorcist eye power and spirit wards) makes me think that spirit perception might be a lower tier psychic ability that everyone can learn. Megumin specifically said she doesnt believe in spirits and that's probably why she rejects spirit vision from her toolbox.

As a reminder, the other girls showing a keen sense of the evil spirit energy were Isuzu, Maki and Miya. None of them can see spirits as far as we know and I think all three of them would probably not have hidden that like Risa does.';

'>>4176329
I really like the idea of every supernatural member being psychic, because it would make the whole setting much more lean and systematic instead of a complete hodgepodge of 5 different magic systems. It would also allow them to introduce problems/cancer powers that require psychic intervention without making other squads worthless. So they will have a member in every squad who can do something about it like
31A: Megumi
31B: Koju
31C: Seira?
31D: Risa
31E: Isuzu?
31F: Maki?
30G: Miya or Yuina(due to her revelations)?
31X: No idea about this one, maybe Sharo or Vritika';

'>>4176355
Seira and Isuzu do display supernatural powers so they are both totally possible already.
Maki doesn't seem particularly gifted with any power.
The only major spiritual thing with Miya is that she believes in reincarnation and doesn't question Yuina's revelations. She seems to have some insight on spiritualism.

In 31X there is nobody with any particular power, unless Sharo's weird distortions when she gets jealous aren't just a joke. Though due to the Cancer shard in her heart Sharo is already in a special position. If you think about it, if she took off her deflector, didn't summon a seraph and just walked through a Cancer group she should be technically invisible to them. She is the ultimate scout/infiltrator. I hope they actually do something with that.';

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'>>4176636';

'>>4176637
And then they banged';

'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtY8R0rh-JI
New SiL album title track.';

'Also found a higher res cover, so you can finally see Megutama not for ants.';

'>>4177132
Was recommended to me immediately when it came out. Youtube algorythm working for once.
I wonder what it will be used for?';

'>>4177145
Probably an event, just like they did with the shini yuku. Maybe a 5.1 fragment, or a swimsuit one, where the parts of the lyrics about time stopping could become unexpectedly literal.';

'>>4177153
I wouldn't complain about a yanaginagi version of this song. Btw I really like how they slightly alter the title if both cover the same song.
yanagnagi = Burn My Universe, SiL = Burn My Soul
yanaginagi = Shini Yuku Kisetsu no Kimi e (To you in the dying season), SiL = Shini Yuku Kisetsu de Boku wa (Me in the dying season)';

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'Koreans have been making some good content lately. Looking forward to this one.';

'Nezumi Yuki has a nice ring to it';

'No new characters today, only random gachas for the made-up 777 anni. This seemingly random set of characters...';

'...and a wishlist step-up. I feel faint passive-aggressiveness from them about the style voting results with this dark Megumi.';

'>>4177756
I doubt it when they put idol Aoi so much in front.';

'I wasn't sure from the cover, but I think these are future styles.';

'Instead of just giving the real clear percentages for each chapter, they showed a weird progression graph that only included ch3+ stuff.';

'Other elements will get resistance cancel in the future too. They plan to introduce some "super hard content" specifically so that people can enjoy playing certain elements.

They plan to add more diverse skills in the future.

The event skip is still in effect, there will be no event next week.

The actual date for the next event is 4/26. It will be a "special" event with more content than usual.';

'>>4177796
I think by now you can assume that almost anyone has beaten chapter 1 and 2, except for players who only just joined during the second anniversary.
I would love to know what the Y-axis in this is measuring though. All I can really parse as usual is that the amount of people who beat the latest chapter rises right before a new chapter comes out. Almost like a progression pyramid incetivizes progress... They will never learn to apply this to events.';

'In the end, this event vacation thing wasn't that big of a deal at all. The event windows around anni/half-anni are already around 40 days, so it's like 1+ week more compared to that. If they were smarter and just run Bungo's event a week later than they did and then said that the future event will be closer to the end of next month because it's bigger than usual, they wouldn't even have to announce that they actually had a vacation.';

'>>4177797
>Other elements will get resistance cancel in the future too.
If none of them are Unison I'm fucked. Or at least on disgustingly gay styles.';

'>>4177817
>If none of them are Unison I'm fucked
If any of them are unison(so limited) then everyone are fucked. Although I can see them doing it for Megumi(Tama) or Miya(Yunia), not sure if any other debuffers can get unisons.';

'>>4177822
>not sure if any other debuffers can get unisons
Isuzu + Ichiko is a possibility at least. Would be far off though.';

'>>4177894
I have the feeling that 31E unison will be Ichiko with all the sisters backing her up. The word unison doesn't imply duo by itself, right?';

'>>4177899
If you just do whole squad unisons it becomes pretty diluted as a concept.';

'>>4177902
Not if it's the only unison like that in the entire game. I don't feel strongly about this, though, it's just a hunch.';

'>>4177905
Well that's the point, if you do it for one that just opens the door for more. If Unison is suddenly just about basic get-along/unity then all squads will eventually qualify. Making them pair styles is not only better and more contained it's also gayer.';

'>>4177908
31E isn't just any squad though, Ichiko is gay for all of her sisters. You can think of it as a harem representation.';

'>>4177912
Of course I would goggle it that way, but there is very little chance WFS would portray it like that.';

'Koju's new SS memory was pretty good. KojuRaji really is an easy way to have a lot of characters appear in the same episode. I like the Koju + Risa pairing in this too, because they both can see ghosts of course, but also because Risa is the easy-going type who takes Koju's nonsense in stride.
Koju calling Ichigo and Sumomo's seraphim codes more chuuni than her own is quite daring. On radio she has no self-control. Good thing she had an overpowered bodyguard this time or it really would have been the last episode of the show lol

...I had to go back and play the episode again and sure enough Sharo was there the entire time. That is actually really good. They got me. And it's not forced, because the first KojuRaji also involved Sharo.';

'It's always wild to accidentally stumble upon art that was uploaded months ago, but you never saw it because the artist didn't include any text in their tweet, making it unsearchable.';

'I wonder what exactly is the meaning behind the next event being special. Will some character get premium treatment with her event just being built differently compared to the others, or is it something like the idol event where the scope of the whole thing is just different.';

'>>4177970
When they say it has more content then it's most likely an event with a minigame like Muua's or Survival island. Something with replay value or mechanics that have a lot of extra assets. Pure story events tend to be between 2-3 hours. Muua's event on average takes people 4-5, just because of the ingredients gathering and item sales. And then it still has three different endings and a grade from C - SS depending on how well you did.';

'>>4177973
That's a solid guess. By the way, they also called it a 特別編 event, which is unusual.
I've seen people on JP theorizing that it could be an event for the new album song, and it was supposed to be released closer to the album release date, but then it got moved to late April because of the skip.';

'>>4177981
I don't know why it should matter when the album comes out. Most of the other songs on the album have all been used much earlier already.';

'>>4177983
Because the main song has already been released, so it would be nicer to get synergy content for it while it's still fresh. Unlike, say, SiL ShiniYuku, where it was actually an unreleased track that people had been waiting for a long time. Through, it's not that big a deal because they still have the live tour with the same title/theme too.';

'>Shunmin Ryodan outfits
>special event
>minigame
31A Survival 2: Maeda's Counterattack';

'>>4177992
He said he would never write another event unless it's anniversary or story related though. So I'm sure we will be spared the mountain training camp where Tsukasa discovers that Tengu are real and has to cremate the last crow woman.';

'>>4177996
Who knows, maybe SiL stuff is also the special occasion that compels him to write. But realistically, what are the options?
>Frontrunners:
31X - the only squad without their 3rd event.
30G - Miya assets.
>Special case:
31A - MCs, can randomly happen at any given moment
>The rest:
8 months since last event - 31F
7 months - 31E
5 months - 31D
4 months - 31B
2 months - 31C
I hope I didn't fuck up the months, but +/- 1 month doesn't matter anyway.';

'Thanks for sandbagging my joke.';

'>>4177970
Considering Miya recently got a lot of new assets and Maeda said she's his actual fav, I can see where this is going.';

'>>4178042
He only said he enjoys writing her right now, not that she is his fav. I still think that he is waiting for the 2.5versary before he does another event himself.';

'I feel like this special event will be an answer to the question of whether they plan to spam limited unisons often or make it something rare. If the event is special, they have a perfect excuse to prepare a special style for it too.';

'>>4178376
Holy moly cool it with the unison stuff already. It's not gonna be a regular thing. Aside from the fact that they would want to keep that trump up their sleeves for big things like anniversaries, it's also twice as much work, because they need to make at least two model for the price of one.';

'>>4177996
I'm pretty sure he did the latest event, considering there's a Yanaginagi song.
Also, his tweet was way more nuanced than "I WILL NEVER WRITE ANOTHER EVENT IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!"';

'>>4178421
>considering there's a Yanaginagi song
That doesn't really mean anything. He also did the SiL songs specifically for Akari's and Hisame's events and those are definitely not written by him. Also remember, the Bungo event has the "Broken ver." of the song, meaning that the normal version of the song is probably already finished and will be used in a story chapter, so who really knows.
>the tweet was more nuanced than saying he will never write an event again
And my post was more nuanced than that too. I said he still writes events for anniversaries and story tie-ins, didn't I?
By now I have figured out that he always references his own events in the story, something that doesn't really happen with other events. So that is almost the most reliable way to tell which are solely his.
Fro example, I consider Swimsuit basically mandatory for 5.1 because of how often Maeda references it. People who didn't play that will be absolutely lost as to what the hell Yuina is talking about.

On a side tangents about that event and the story...
With time travel being a relevant theme I think this is a hint to us what really happened in 5.1 too. The hairpin thing being a left behind is a "trail" much like the white lily. Timelines adjust themselves. But it seems due to Megumin's powers being involved memories aren't reset.';

'>>4178423
>Swimsuit 2';

'>>4178423
>He also did the SiL songs specifically for Akari's and Hisame's events
Yeah, like literally every single events';

'>>4178426
No, I mean he specifically wrote the songs for those characters. A lot of SiL songs are just randomly taken from the album and thrown into random events. But Maeda usually uses songs that actually suit the events he writes. You will never wonder who Goodbye Innocence was written for. But Pain in Rain? Doesn't have anything to do with Misarin. CigaChoco? No idea what it's doing in Muua's event.
Meanwhile Long Long Spell is 100% written for Akarin. How Everything is a Hisame song through and through.

The overunder is that Maeda sometimes makes SiL songs specifically for events/characters he doesn't write himself. In the same way it's not a stretch that he gave a remix of one of his story songs to the Bungo event, because it either relates to the same thing or because he thought it would fit. It doesn't mean he wrote the event.

PS: As usual, collaborative effort. While Maeda often insists on writing things solo, I'm pretty sure that other event writers often ask him to approve things or give opinions, especially if it involves his three main units.';

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'Bride Shiki would be the only non-waifufag version of that style they could do. She would for sure have a line about marrying a harem of girls or some polygamy joke.';

'I mean, the brides weren't that high impact on the popularity poll, so they can try experimenting with the concept if they want to(though they probably won't, since it's easy money still). Shiki will probably be one of the least selling ones, so not her, but you can try some other non-waifufag character imply that she's marrying a girl, even if you don't name who exactly.';

'>>4178926
>it won't sell
None of the non-waifu characters would sell with a bride style. That's what makes them non-waifus. My entire point it that this is the only way to defuse the bridal shit.
Also tell me how anyone except Shiki can imply she is marrying a girl without naming someone. Isuzu maaay have been an option because she does usually clearly say she only likes girls, but her onsen style proved that they would rather make the lines just vague enough that waifufags can stay delusional.';

'>>4177792
I kind of hope they aren't, or if they are, that they also do S like swimsuits, so some characters will dodge it. Don't get me wrong, these outfits aren't bad, but I want something more flashy and fun. So it wouldn't be that the other characters are wizards and vampires and shit, and then Tsukasa is like swimsuit > suit > hiking outfit.';

'>>4168352
I legitimately might like Epic of the Valkyrie the most out of all the new songs. Thery are all good though. Probably the best story batch yet, even if chapter 1 had so many classics.';

'This. Is. Art.';

'>>4178954
Yeah, it's my favorite this chapter too together with Ruka's song for her mother.';

'I love how this battle RPG gacha has better music than most Idol or band gacha. Love Live, Sekai Project, Bandori and Uma Musume eat your hearts out. Even gacha like FGO or Arknights which have grandiose orchestral tracks sometimes can hardly compare.

Writing wise Maeda can be hit or miss and I think there are plenty of writers that can do a similar job. But they absolutely scored on the music side of things by having him on. Being writer and composer allows for much more synergy in the soundtrack and story overlap too.

Hopefully we will get some character songs eventually, because a chunk of the voice cast are no slouches when it comes to singing either.';

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'Has anyone figured out yet the exact number of memories you need to collect for the good ending? I heard you don't need to get them all, but shouldn't it be at least 8/10 or something? At least 3 are almost mandatory, because they are pushed into your face. The only way I see people missing some accidentally is if they never look at the map and don't notice the ones that spawn in the park and city without a trail.';

'>>4179473
I don't know, but it's more than 4 because I saw a streamer get it without trying, and when I checked, they only did 4 memories. Which was surprising to me, I thought it was more of an easter egg punishment for people who completely ignored it.';

'>>4179483
So at a minimum you need to get 5/10, maybe more.
I always thought this was supposed to be a legit ending you could naturally get actually. I mean they even tell you afterwards how to get the true ending. I think it's a meta thing where you get punished for not caring about Ruka enough.

Don't care about Ruka's past = Don't get a future for Ruka

It's still rather hard to miss a lot of these though. You'd really have to just not give a shit. I still havent actually seen anyone get it naturally, but I did read on twitter that some did. I really, really want to see the genuine despair of someone getting the bad ending first... I cant even imagine my feelings if I got to the Yukki version of the credits...';

'>>4179487
>You'd really have to just not give a shit.
Mostly yes, especially full gameplayfags. The other kind of people who can naturally get this ending are the people who prefer to rush the main story first and then do all the "side content" later, treating it similarly to bonding stories, or dome errands.';

'>>4179489
>people who prefer to rush the main story first and then do all the "side content" later
I see, didn't even consider that. With the dome quests or bonding episodes at least I would understand, because there are several ones at the same time, so it's impossible to do them in one run. But with these memories you can always do them right away. Seeing them as side-content is weird to me. You'll get punished for rushing then I suppose.

At least you can easily tell if you got the bad ending during the final cutscene, because there is no music. Once you notice that the anticipation of whether someone got it disappears a little. Of course nobody would know that on their first run.';

'It's starting to catch on, I tell ya.';

'When 31A debated whether or not time travel was possible, and then there was a flashback with Tezuka infodumping about cancers using energy from a higher dimension, was that just a reminder for the players, or was it an implication that time manipulation is important to the general cancer plot? Time being the 4th dimension is a very popular concept after all.';

'>>4179516
I doubt Cancer are actually using time travel or they wouldn't be losing at all. Unless it's some crazy thing where someone from the future are attacking the past. Now that we know that Cancer have already been wreaking havoc across the galaxy I'd say it's less likely though, because some aliens using drones to attack the past is pretty random.

We still know too little about Cancer, even if we now have the info that they feed on intelligence. In many ways this doesn't make sense as a motivation right now.';

'>>4179516
Well, we still have the psychic cult leader's prophecy about Megumin being the savior plot point. Ruka also has flashback of future events before waking up in the prologue so there is probably some time fuckery going on.';

'RuKaren sort of underrated.';

'I love the idea that hyper-fan Yukki would not be impressed by a shadow clone.';

'>>4179856
It's not "underrated" it's just not a thing. Their dynamic doesn't work like that.';

'>>4179864
Oh look at the fun police. Next you're gonna tell me that MeguRuka isnt real!';

'>>4179871
MeguRuka is better though. These long memorydive nights filled with physically and emotionally intimate connection. Ruka sleeping on Megumin's lap too...

It's all about if it feels faithful. Immage of Ichigo bathing Highuchi and shaving her unkept armpits? "Yep, that's about right". Karerin yanderishly pinning down bashed and shy Ruka? "No, not happening".';

'>>4179876
You know I was just joking, but you are making up a lot of stuff. And in the creepy weirdo way, not the funny type.';

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'Oh yeah April 1st is Bungo's bday.';

'That moment in the event was awesome. Wakki can be so damn cool';

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'>>4180881
The final form of 31D will just be an orgy.';

'https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1775478355334189506
>2nd part of the 777 days campaign!
I understand they needed something when there's no event, but this 777 anni thing feels so awkwardly artificial it's unbelievable. Especially when we just had the actual anni the other month.';

'>>4181650
I seriously don't understand why you care though. It's just a bunch of bonus currency, tickets and banners. You just profit. Nanamin is popular, Nana means 7, that's where the reasoning ends.
I like that they are doing an art contest at least.';

'>>4181655
It's not that I care, it's just that there's something really awkward about the way they're presenting this thing. In how both they and the players know it's just empty filler, but they've got to keep going with the act
>I like that they are doing an art contest at least.
The art contest was announced on the actual anni.';

'>>4181671
What act though? It's just a campagin. It's like those upgrade item Nanami campaigns except a different title and more free shit. It's obviously just a way to tide over people until new content drops in. There are certainly worse ways to do it.';

'>>4181690
This different title they chose is probably the root of this feeling for me. If this were a spring campaign or april fool's campaign or something like that, I probably wouldn't have even noticed that it existed. But when they go like "this random day is actually the new special anni moment and we are going to have two whole streams about it and multiple campaigns and random gachas" with the usual fake enthusiasm, it just feels super off somehow.
Anyway, it's not like it really matters, so let's not derail the thread with this topic for long.';

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'MonaKura artist single-handedly keeps the ship alive.';

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'YunYun and Tsukasa both got debuffer styles because... I don't know why. Tsukasa got the fucking dark resist removal debuff because, you know, fuck actual debuffer class characters. I think WFS is one of the most insane gacha companies I know, their gameplay decision making is just deranged.';

'Damn, they want money badly this month.';

'>>4182308
I'm not nearly stupid enough to care about a style having a good move. Also please remember that characters don't have inherent classes. Did you note notice that darkness Tama is classified as a Buffer rather than a Healer? This new Tsukasa is a Debuffer.

What I'm ACTUALLY upset at is that this is the most disgusting fanservice style they have released since... no there isnt even anything compare to. This is the actual new low.

I can't believe that Yunyun, the character with probably the most sexualized default design in the game, has gotten two decent outfits in a row. It's upside down worl.

>>4182310
Has nothing to do with money and all with getting something attention grabbing for the gap.';

'Wedding styles are the worst for conceptual reasons. But this bunny girl shit with shoving maximum cleavage in your face is something I expect from Nikke, not HBR.
Also Yunyun has her SS3 before Carol even gets an SS2. That style popularity poll really shows its power already.';

'>>4182312
>Has nothing to do with money
It absolutely is
Broken ability + waifu/coomer pandering fanservice visuals + popular character
This is a minmax move for getting profit, the only offer stronger than this is to give it to Yuina or Aoi and make it limited, that would be the peak money maxing in current system.';

'>>4182316
Let me rephrase it. This isn't a move to make profit on this one style. This is a gap filler that is meant to make people log into the game during this barren month. They release styles that make money every month anyway, this is not the point But retention is actually a factor that is brought up often by management. How many people log in daily, how many hours do they spend in the game etc.
That's why they have the 777 camapaign and that's why they shoot out one of their trump card styles right now. Keep people's eyes on the game.';

'>>4182312
Man I really wish they had the budget to make her put on the glasses in her animation. Also
>another style where you don't know if their skill is good or not until you need it
Why did they have to give it to such a good costume...';

'>>4182337
Yunyun will always be good by default due to her SS1 ult. Everything else is a bonus.
I dont understand people who roll banners for abilities, but then again, I also can't understand the disgusting waifufags who roll for honry styles, so I guess I'm just not the target of gacha practices.
>pull down her glasses
But... she is wearing them like that because she doesnt want to wear sunglasses in the night city...? Maybe her ult will have her do it.';

'>>4182340
I mean what part of wanting to roll for something usable is so hard to understand? I guess if you're just collecting and don't care about the gameplay then sure.';

'>>4182348
>usable
Bitch I have played this game for 2 1/2 years. I got enough good styles to last me probably till the end of service unless they create indispenable new shit. Every good ability is just a bonus to me.
What you really mean by "care about the gameplay" is probably the numberfag content. I don't really care about it much, true. I slowly improve my teams with what I get and I can almost beat hard mode Flathand 2 now, if that is any measuring stick. It's not a need though, just something to try for fun.';

'Resistance removal will always be top tier broken, but other than that, Tsukasa doesn't feel as crazy of an addition for her element comp as Sharo did, they really went all in on that style back then.';

'>>4182367
I mean for one, nobody has the negative SP gimmick except 31X so that will always make them unique. Giving this ability to a 31X member was probably the highest level application possible.';

'>>4182367
It's only a matter of time until they give dark a better token user than Monaka. Then her rengeki would make all the difference';

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'Ok, but actually... this is the first guaranteed percentage damage ult in the game isn't it? The cap being 1 million is probably smart for balancing reasons, but at the same time it does limit its use against the end game content.

Also she has a proper AoE debuff now, like all the real debuffer characters, which is ironically fitting, because Yunyun had the solo defense down debuff all along.

I dunno, this with her SS1 ult makes this a good style imo. One that isn't limited to any element.';

'>>4182418
I wonder how it works with Muua SS2 skill use restoration. Can she just kill any boss who has less than 4 million HP in 4 casts? They need to be VERY careful with such skills or the non-whale content of this game will get retarded fast.';

'>>4182428
Honestly, considering she is not supposed to be the damage dealer, this is definitely too strong. I would limit it to once per battle, regardless of how many uses she has left. Also maybe give it a downside, like exhaustion.
The fact that this is useless until you break DP isn't enough to off-set it.';

'>>4182431
>The fact that this is useless until you break DP isn't enough to off-set it.
I don't know about this skill, but iirc the HP removal orbs were removing HP even if DP was completely untouched.';

'>>4182434
...there are no orbs that remove HP.';

'>>4182435
There are? The last 2 orbs were like this skill, but weaker.';

'>>4182310
It being an attrocity of a pervert style aside (didnt the SS ranking literally prove that perv styles are not the popular ones?), this might be the first time the style art is clearly awakened Tsukasa.
Just look at her face, this doesn't look like airhead Tsukasa to me.';

'By the way, you might misunderstand YunYun's new skill if you don't read its description. Its cost isn't just "all SP", it works when your sp is ""negative"", so it's literally a FREE skill if you use it with her SS1. What did she even do to the devs to get all this kind of shit over 99% character of this game?';

'>>4182438
>(didnt the SS ranking literally prove that perv styles are not the popular ones?)
Her swimsuit style, which is complete garbage-tier by now still managed to crawl into the top 15 of this year's popularity poll, so sadly Tsukasa will be getting styles like this forever. It's a 31A sacrifice for Yuki and Megumi to keep getting pretty non-waifufag styles.';

'>>4182377
Dark in particular doesn't care about this buff at all, because the best dark damage dealers have their own version. (Lolita and Adel)
Her new style doesn't clash with Fubuki (dark def down + fragile), but Adel in particular has already dark attack up build in, so that buff is also kinda meh.

Aoe is still too rare to care about, and thunder covers that part well.

The only issue Tsukasa has is that she'd downgrade a typical Adel team, if you'd force her into a fight vs. something that's already weak to dark. This isn't true for Sharo. So I'd agree that Tsukasa is a LOT worse. But it's arguably the correct way of designing a character like this. Sharo was too much. Super good in rush, useful no matter what. An absolutely goddess for new players that could even just focus on buffing her, and see her delete stuff by herself.
Tsukasa? Meh. The only reason she's good is because dark has some absolutely disgustingly broken "support" character. (Yes, blaster are technically supports..)';

'>>4182445
But her suit style is in the top 6... It's the same rank as her own popularity poll rank. That would by far outweigh the remnant of a swimsuit style.';

'>>4182448
I think a character whose entire gimmick is to turn non-darkness fights into darkness compatible fights is fine only being useful in those situations.

It's funny though that everyone was clamoring for these weakness adding styles and in the very same banner you get one of them, the other debuffer is actually more broken. Not that just removing resistances and turning it in to a weakness isn't already broken by default.
I sure wonder what this new super hard content is they talked about, because this shit is clearly designed to counter some bullshit.';

'>>4182452
And the swimsuit was top 1 in the first poll beating Aoi, Yuina, Tama etc. In their eyes the suit placement is a downgrade, especially seeing the swimsuit still going strong against infinitely superior modern styles.';

'>>4182448
Dark honestly feels like an unloved child element to me in this regard. While the other elements get them trying to perfectly match each character with each other to have full synergy, dark just gets random shit.
Everyone wanted dark Megumi to be an upgraded dark version of her fire style or to do dark resistance removal, instead she got weird extra debuffs that's a functional mechanic but not something anyone asked for.
Everyone wanted new dark big field to be a normal big field style like two other ones, instead we got Yuki that doesn't do anything other than field as a support, barely an upgrade over Iroha.
Everyone wanted dark Ruka to just be a strong modern dark attacker, instead she got a very basic style that loses to most other dark attackers and her fire mode is in a better position than her dark mode.
Everyone wanted dark resistance removal to just round up something about dark comp like Sharo did it with thunder, instead it got effects that are useless for some of the the most used meta character in the comp.
>>4182454
The weakness increase is actually not a bad damage increase effect by itself, especially if the original weakness isn't super high. That's why Sharo is so much better, she can apply it together with fragile and it's already solid like a normal debuffer, even without the removal part.';

'>>4182465
That's not how it works. All suit styles beat swimsuit styles. And if a year later with more players they see that Tsukasa's style is still top 6 and it's the suit style, that is very obviously the more popular one.
I think your arguments are stupid, but WFS doesn't give a shit. They will whore out any girl if they need something attention grabbing.';

'>>4182467
>Dark Yukki only does field as a support
And removes all buffs from enemies. Stop pretending that isn't the main gimmick. I've already seen this being useful against Razing Eclipse for a bunch of people. This is not a useless ability and will most likely just become more relevant over time. It's also entirely unique right now.';

'>>4182454
>the other debuffer is actually more broken
Yunyun? I'd rate that style 1/10 honestly. The requirement of NEEDING negative SP is bad enough already, the def cut being temporary means it's super awkward to use.

There's also thunder Yunyun you'd prefer in thunder, and ice + dark don't really care about her at all. Light.. doesn't really either if you play suit Karen. Fire is full of sub-dps capable characters. Megumi, Ichiko, Isuzu... everyone can help. It also has the orb.

Name a good team for the new Yunyun. I've been thinking about it, but I have no idea where I'd ever use her. It's honestly a bad banner in general. Tsukasa is only interesting if you want to make 90% of the game free via dark Adel.. and that sounds honestly boring.';

'>>4182472
Sometimes I wonder how ignorant numberfags are... this is like the 20th time someone here was super sure a character is useless or their ult is bad only to completely fall on their face.
That Yunyun Ult is fucking broken and in a few weeks you will be singing the same tune.
>banner with two overpowered debuffers is bad, because uh... I dont want them in my comps
Cool..';

'>>4182470
>That's not how it works.
I'm not sure what you even mean by that. When they released swimsuit Tsukasa it beat everything into submission, despite being less popular characters that this game queens and being super mediocre gameplay wise, it was a sensational performance in that poll. After that, it was supposed to just disappear, but it still made it into the top 15 this year, beating out much stronger, contemporary styles as an old, outdated shit style.
In comparison the suit style just did decently, it lost to all the expected winning candidates. So, as you can see, they went back to fanservice for her, hoping to reignite that style reception.
>I think your arguments are stupid,
I think you just want to argue for the sake of arguing.';

'>>4182471
>And removes all buffs from enemies.
Wow, it's so amazing to have an effect that only makes a noticeable difference in about 3 fights in the whole game, and maybe one day it'll be useful in 6 fights. It's totally better than having an effects that's good in every single fight you use it.';

'>>4182474
Tsukasa's swimsuit style only won first place in the first poll because that poll was less coordinated. This year people banded together to go for actual functional styles over fanservice. Not to mention there was no fanservice style for Tama or Yuina available at the time, so it wasn't even a real contest in that regard either.
>suit style is only 6th place
Against some of the best styles in the game, based on actual skills. There are more players now than there were at the first anniversary. Do you understand? More people voted for this suit style than they did for the swimsuit style a year before.

It's really not that deep. Your reasoning is bad, they just wanted to do a fanservice style. Period.';

'>>4182477
That sure is awfully obtuse of you. There are/will be many field styles, but only Yukki has remove buff. Being a specialist is not a bad thing. People here whine about all kinds of stuff because it is only versatile and not broken, meaning that clearly versatility doesn't matter, it's all about having that one overpowered use.';

'>>4182479
>Tsukasa's swimsuit style only won first place in the first poll because that poll was less coordinated
I'm not going to argue with your invented reasons, if you don't like my explanation it's up to you, I have no reason to try to persuade you, the results are already there before we even started arguing.';

'>>4182480
>Being a specialist is not a bad thing.
Being a specialist is a bad thing if it's tied to a permanent role in the comp. It's not a style you pull out of your pocket when you see buffed enemies coming at you. It's a style that you always have on your dark team because it's a big field, but its specialist buff removal effect is just pointless most of the time. Meanwhile, light Tsuaksa just buffs crits and has a light buff. That's always super useful. Fire Megumi debuffs fire and has generic buffs, which is also always useful. Dark Yuki isn't like that, she's very meh when her specialty isn't necessary.';

'>>4182486
>she's very meh when her specialty isn't necessary
You just described a specialist...';

'>camera literally zooms in on her ass and tits
Somehow it got worse.';

'>YunYun's useless fixed damage > Tsukasa's dark res down
I must be living in bizarro world right now or >>4182454 >>4182448 >>4182440 >>4182431 >>4182440
just don't play the game/can't read. This YunYun is literally only good for getting rid of damage limits (which we have only seen once and the orbs with a similar effect wasn't even necessary to 8 turn it). You do realize that anything that's remotely 'hard' in the game has millions of HP, right? If you genuinely need this Yunyun for her damage, you're not going to win regardless. You can't even spam this skill against weak enemies because of its low uses and you'd only be dealing 30% hp damage - not 1 mil. The only good part of this skill is the no cost defense down, but yunyun herself already has a cheap 6 sp defense down. Also you can't use this at negative SP since it functions in the same way as sharo's similar skill. Single target defense downs aren't even that sought after anymore either since you can just use the orb. This yunyun's better skill is actually her generic AOE defense down that you can pass to thunder yunyun, but even then thunder Yunyun is already too sp hungry
>This Tsukasa is pointless on dark teams because the rengeki is useless
It's like you don't even read skills. So an extra 2.2 unique multiplier (additive on dark) against any element is useless? That alone is stronger than field, defs downs, fragiles, mind eye, etc. That was the real broken part of Sharo's ult, not the elemental reversal. Keep in mind this Tsukasa also has dark atk up rendering shiki useless. Let's not forget that no dark AOE dps has rengeki or how it'll only take a new dark token user to out damage chie and adelhide in single target. Obviously she's not as good as sharo since sharo gets the X treatment, but claiming that this Tsukasa has no place on dark teams and saying Yunyun's meme skill is broken is just downright wrong. You can be ignorant, but please don't spread misinformation when your knowledge is subpar';

'I like how dark gumin is so slow and unnecessary for non-minmax gameplay, they never even use it for the dark style showcase teams, even though the style is still new.';

'It's so painful. This Yunyun style is actually kind of the perfect exaple of how to do sexy right. She is more cute, but still has a certain sexy touch. It's the same logic that made Isuzu's SS2 good.
This Tsukasa style is just hot garbage.';

'>>4182498
>Also you can't use this at negative SP
Anon, click on the style card on hbr.quest and translate what the actual skill text says.';

'>>4182502
Oh, you even literally can't use it if your SP is positive, it has to be negative, so the skill is always jsut free. Why the fuck is she getting free skills?';

'>>4182498
>>4182504
Don't you just love it when someone gives a condescending rant about skills they didn't even understand?
And most people here defended that Tsukasa would be useful. She easily replaces Megumin in an instant, which is pretty rough.';

'Tsukasa new style voiceover is worse than I thought.';

'>>4182507
Everything about this style is like they pulled her out of azur lane or nikke or something.';

'Oh she has an awakened voiceline. I guess that proves this style is meant to be awakened Tsukasa (even if airhead will get the standard voice lines).

>>4182507
How? The voiceline I caught was talking about this is a honey trap (a term used by female spies who trick men with sex appeal to dupe them).
Either way I hate the concept.

>>4182501
I'll put this one on the list as wedding Ichiko and wedding Mari as a style I will never use and hopefully never roll.';

'All 3 31F-related events got clear bonuses, I think this might mean something for non-so distant future.';

'Another rhythm game ranking competition. Interesting. I wish I was good enough to compete.

>>4182511
I think so too. Chiroru was sort of teased several times recently. If Miya is involved then it might be the "beauty" squad from Niina's event.';

'>>4182502
>>4182504
That doesn't change the fact that orbs replace this skill outright so it'll only be a slight upgrade to teams without rengeki like ST fire, ST light (though this is arguable since light yotsuha exists), and AOE dark. Meanwhile Tsukasa is an upgrade to ALL dark teams.
>>4182505
>Replaces Megumi
???
>fire Megumi
She complements her more than anything since you'd be using both for ST fire. AOE fire you wouldn't be using her at all
>Dark Megumi
If we use the same Chie and Adel arguement then she has no place on ST dark teams in the first place. AOE dark sure, but you're not using suit Megumi on an AOE dark team in the first place. Please stop spouting nonsense when you don't know the first thing about teambuilding';

'>>4182504
It's not free. You HAVE to be negative SP. And its effect is temporary. This isn't as good as it sounds. And worst of all, it's an ultimate, which means you can't throw this on the thunder version.
You basically have to have the normal Yunyun or else this style is giga garbage, and then not want the thunder version. Fire is like the only element where this is relevant, but fire also has strong access to def down already (especially Isuzu, but also Megumi), and it's not like Yunyun didn't have def down already via a 6sp skill.

And yes, I fully ignore the damage it deals, because it literally doesn't matter outside of possible damage cap stuff, unless you are very new and are bad at playing the game. But even then you'd want tons of styles over this. And in fire you have so many styles that can deal damage, AND the orb, that it's highly unlikely you care about the fixed damage.

I like Yunyun and all, but this style is awful.';

'>>4182520
What a retard. We talk about a darkness style and he brings up fire...
And what is your logic? You admit that Megumin is useless in both main darkness comps, so Tsukasa would by default usurp her. And it's still bullshit, because you cant play dark against everything without Tsukasa, so you WILL use her.';

'Before it went into some weird place.
>>4182520
You think that the anon talked about YunYun in the sentence about Tsukasa.
>>4182523
You think the anon replied about Tsukasa, but it was about YunYun.';

'>>4182523
>Megumi is useless in both
Ok so you just don't read. Figures from someone who doesn't know how the game works either';

'>>4182526
If the other anon is right and you think I'm talking about Yunyun for some reason then get some glasses.';

'>>4182520
>but you're not using suit Megumi on an AOE dark team in the first place.
Conceptually, aoe fragile + 1 perma ult on two enemies isn't too bad, but the problem is that her SP pool is crying. They really should give her a skill that allows her to generate free SP out of thin air or auto stack her debuffs on single ability use, she's the only modern debuffer left with such massive SP problems.';

'They didn't announce it on stream, but there will be a dark A-san/Megumi/Yuki banner next week.';

'Forget about slut style Tsukasa and embrace HiguIchi';

'I can't wait for the ice Aoi who suddenly became a debuffer just to get the resist removal.';

'Twitter sure seems to like it at least. Dozens of fanarts withing hours. And certainly not of Yunyun.
The only solace is that some good artists will make this a TsuKaren thing.

PS: The next Score Attack will be suit RukaYukki. Interesting.';

'I think these 3 class changes in a row might be related to the new strategy they talked about in last week's stream. When they said they would try to release more diverse skills/styles, they didn't just mean new, more diverse skills, but also more randomness in what styles you get in general. Right now a lot of styles are kind of predictable. They can throw a curveball with a new skill effect, or not give someone something they should get, but you still have a basic idea of what class, what elements, and what skills that specific character might get in the future. If the default class is consistently not a thing, then you have no fucking idea what the next style of your favorite character is, is it an attacker, a buffer, a healer? Who knows.';

'>>4182631
>twitter likes a fan service pandering style
Who would have thought.';

'>>4182638
Yes, I was being condescending to the waifufags.';

'>>4182636
Anon, they have been doing random classes for characters since the beginning of the game. Seira's A and S styles are both Healers, yet her SS1 is a Defender. I already mentioned Suit Tama being a Buffer. Yuina's SS2 was a Blaster when her SS1 was an Attacker. You get the idea.
Will they increase this? Possibly. It just doesn't feel all that meaningful, because nobody was ever truly set in a role and due to their shared skills they still retain some of the skeleton of their initial classes, so it's more like hybrids.';

'>>4182644
They did, but we got as many SS class changes in the last two weeks as we did in the 9+ months before that. I think it's something worth paying attention to.';

'>>4182428
Based on the stream showcase it seems it's 15~30% always, hbr.quest is sometimes off at parsing the exact numbers of some new effects. And yes, it goes through DP. I don't think this YunYun will make any difference, but this effect could get really weird if more characters get skills like this.';

'>>4182652
hbr.quest also said it's 15-30% (depending on skill level). What anon is asking is if she were to use the ult 4 times on a boss that has less than 4 million HP, would it just outright kill?
For example, those pesky strongest orb bosses right now with their 3 DP bars. Using Yunyun's ult + SS2 Muua's ult to recover her ult charges + the HP damage orbs would mean you can do 100% HP damage without ever breaking a single DP bar.

Due to the fact that YunYun uses this ult at negative SP she basically needs to use her SS1 ult once, then use her new ult in the two following turns, have Muua restore one use, then use the ult again and follow it up with a single 10% HP orb and you are golden.

I don't think this would be neessarily faster than just bumrushing the boss with strong attacks and break its DP, but it only uses Planar Shift wshen a bar is broken, so it would actually increase survivability.

To be clear, this is all just early speculation, but if she can indeed kill with her ult this can become nasty.';

'>>4182670
Now imagine if everyone in a team has an ult like that.';

'I think something like this mechanic would have worked for a psychic skill, something that works completely differently from the usual seraph attacks, unrelated to the character's normal stats. Not this ult in particular, but something like that in general. A missed opportunity, I guess.';

'I'm not going to judge them for what they do with the most popular characters, but when YunYun gets SS3 when half her unit doesn't have SS2, it feels really silly.';

'>>4182720
Really, you are not going to judge them on the (arguably) most disgusting shit they have pulled yet when it comes to style design, but you will question them giving certain characters style priority when this has been happening literally in ever squad for 2 years?';

'>>4182722
I was talking about the style distribution, why are you bringing completely irrelevant topic into it. It's obvious why Tama gets 68 styles, there's nothing to say about it. YunYun getting a new style right now over other 31X members is just them being silly, it doesn't have to be this way.';

'>>4182732
Mari got her SS3 before Miko or Seira even got their SS2s and right after Adel just got her SS2.
Yuina and Hisame both had SS3s before Monaka even got her SS2.
Risa was at SS2 before Akarin and Aina even had an SS1.
Yunyun was at SS2 before Vrittika had her SS1.
31A is the fucking dumbest despite all being in the top 10 popularity. Tama and Yukki are at SS5 when Karen and Tsukasa are (up untl tomorrow) at SS3. Ruka, evenf if you count her shitty free SS, was at SS4 when those two reached SS5 and got a unison style that also includes Yukki, making Yukki basically the first SS6.
31F and 31E have been the most evenly distributed. And even then I expect Ichiko SS3 any day now, before Minori even gets her SS2.

They never, ever tried.';

'>>4182744
A lot of these examples were also criticized at the time though.
I feel like YunYun irks me in a wrong way because her "popularity" is just them giving her some of the best styles in the game and then giving her more stuff because of the best styles doing well, as if she did something to earn that as a character. Then you have characters who get shitty initial style(s) and now they don't get shit, like it's their fault they didn't get styles of god like her. We truly live in a society.
>Yukki
I think Yuki has some kind of the main heroine distribution privilege. She consistently gets a new style every 5-7 months around the anniversary, it's probably the most stable character release schedule in the entire game.';

'>>4182752
>critisized at the time
Yes, by us. And nobody else on the internet it seems. The worst it got on the JP side were running gags about Akarin never getting an SS style and Ichigo/Misa/Monaka being the eternal SS1 trio. And those were treated more like charming jokes.
>Yunyun good style spiral
Sort of applicable. But I guarantee you Higumin SS2 aned Muua SS1 have been on her level of meta for a very very long time and neither of them is at SS3 yet either. There is definitely some other factor going on here. Despite Yunyun not appearing in the top 15 character popularity, there is a very clear and visible undercurrent of her being actually kinda popular. Certainly in 31X she is second only to Sharo.
If it were up to me Carol would be getting this treatment instead, because she is the squad leader. But in general I just want 31X to finally get all their SS2s at least.
>Yukki has main heroine bonus
But that begs the question why Ruka deoesnt actually get main character privileges. Seriously, I dont count Free Ruka as an SS. She was literally at SS3 for an entire year, while Tama got to SS5. It's stupid.';

'>>4182755
>There is definitely some other factor going on here.
Just a random guess, maybe they also want to appeal to the TW server and CN speaking fanbase in general? That's probably reaching though.
>Yes, by us. And nobody else on the internet it seems.
People on JP boards also whine about it. You don't usually see people on twitter complaining about such things unless the situation is "game studio is eating babies" level bad, so shitting on it is morally correct and not considered offensive by anyone.
>Seriously, I dont count Free Ruka as an SS.
I don't either, but I think they do, they very often use it when they put SS1 characters somewhere instead of using the actual SS1. The lack of the MC treatment is indeed strange, not only in the distribution, but also in gameplay. She never gets trylu "top tier" styles, it's always more like "decent, but will get powercreeped in a month" ones. Why not just give her the meta style at least once, the attackers replace each other over time anyway, it would never be a problem.
>>4182744
>Karen and Tsukasa are (up untl tomorrow) at SS3.
By the way, Karen is still in a fairly weird place. If she's the one who gets the swimsuit SS this year or the anniversary unison (assuming it's an anniversary thing), there's a chance she won't get a style until August while Tama or Megumi can get something in the meantime. If she doesn't then she probably should get something soon.';

'>>>/vmg/1443601
New character assets. As always, it could mean something (MC of 31X event confirmed whenever it happens, onsen team return possibility, etc.) or nothing, it's up to you what to expect.';

'Let it be an event where 31X finally pays their SP taxes';

'>>4182853
They got the veteran bonus and have to get paid extra for making Murica, Chinaland and Ruzzia work together. No amount of taxes will make them lose their immense wins.';

'Haven't been for 2days on 4ch and now there is this shitshow. Slutkasa... I might have been able to mindscrew myself into believing that "it's okay" if not for the fucking animation. We are hitting Azure Lane level of retarded coomerbait with boobs and ass focus. And if that's not enough, both styles are busted af. Moreover, it also makes chances of TsuKaren Unison this year almost none. And with this new style policy it will only get much worse.';

'I have to be honest with you, shouting Tsukasa is really grating on my ears. Her new memory story scenario is fun, but I started thinking "shut the fuck up" at some point.
>>4182919
>it also makes chances of TsuKaren Unison this year almost none
Eh? I don't think this style affects anything like that in any way.';

'>>4182919
RukaYukki Unison came out back to back with Yukki SS5. There are absolutely no rules.

>>4183006
> shouting Tsukasa is really grating
Yeah not only does she suck at shouting, it just doesn't suit her. But almost everyone else in the cast has to shout all the time, so they probably though they had to make her follow suit.
I was actually quite relieved when awakened Tsukasa only shouted like 3 times in all of chapter 5.1. Because Maeda apparently understood that she isn't the shouting type and only does it if she wants to bark back at Karen-chan. But she can still also calmly destroy the pitiful killer.

Iornically my favorite exchange was when awakened Tsukasa complained about Karen-chan shouting into her ear.';

'What the fuck? My first free pull on this cursed banner and I immediately get the slut style. I usually never get banner styles no matter how much I pull, but the one time I dont want it they just shove her in my face?
I literally just want Yunyun and the free SS ticket from this shitty milestone banner and be done with it. Now I have to actively nerf my darkness team by not using it.';

'Oh wow, they raised the SA cap.';

'Maeda keeps inserting parts with characters rapping, but none of them can hold a candle to Megumi's rant about ya's in 4.2. And it wasn't even rap, she was just complaining.';

'undefined';

'Tsukasa's memory:
Those throat destroying screams aside, I absolutely adore the interactions between TsuKaren, in both forms. It's like you get two separate ships for the price of one somehow.
The dynamic between A!Tsukasa and Karen-chan has really evolved a lot. The way A!Tsukasa can't back out of a challenge due to pride is great, but Karen-chan obviously just likes hanging out with her and uses any excuse. The way that Karen-chan riles up A!Tsukasa without trying to by acting chaotic and stupid, rather than when she actually tries to taunt her is perfect.
I also love how much of a scheming bitch A!Tsukasa actually is. She's on the level where she even exploits Karen-chan's not-so-well-hiden kind side. Making clear that the agent is actually more evil than the serial killer lol

Safe to say that these two are by far the most entertaining dup in 31A. And the ship is great too.

Yunyun's memory:
This one was just really well written. It's not just one gag, but several tie-in gags, like Ruka reading a passing Inori's mind and translating thoughts between silent Misarin and Yunyun badly is a perfect way to inegrate that running gag in a new way. The fact that Yunxia's only contact with Ichigo is her movie persona flirting with Maria is the absolute best. "Why are you making us sound like Maria and that assassin girl?"
Misarin being able to utterly and completely take apart Yunyun's mind just by playing Go is the best. She usually has no social skills at all, but Go makes her a psychic.

And the final punchline of why shy Yunyun doesn't want to tell her true feelings to 31X being "The Feng Shui isn't good today!" is the funniest line I've seen in a month.


Good job writers. You actually washed out the bad taste from my mouth after that Slutkasa style.';

'Aaaand the bad taste is immediately back. I looked up the new home screen lines for Tsukasa and they are frankly the worst thing I have seen in the entire game. That's a level of disgusting I didn't think feasible. Not a single line references Asakura either, so just an all around failure. Retch.

Yunyun once again is a total contrast. Aside from one line where she acts indignant that someone said she isnt as sexy as usual, she has only good lines.
It's great that the Sharo line from her SS2 has its own mini-story in these screens. On lightning Yunyun Sharo told her that the outfit would look great on Ruka (the highest compliment) and in this one Sharo stared at Yunyun's heart shaped cleavage and then ran off saying "I see".

It's also cool how poetic they make Yunyun sometimes. The line about how ironically the neon lights make the stars invisible has some real weight to it.';

'>>4183006
>>4183038
Tsukasa and Karen tend to have 1 style per year + default. This year Tsukasa's is wasted and Karen along with Megu are reserved for summer. About Ruka Yuki Unison and how it's back to back with Yuki's style. It worked only because unison was Ruka's style primerily. The two can still be used together.';

'>>4183175
For the last time, there are no rules or patterns. They will release styles on a whim. If they feel like releasing 3 Tsukasa styles in a year they will.';

'undefined';

'>>4183182
I think they do have some planning/patterns, but it's super sloppy. It's not a system where they micromanage each girl and decide how many styles they get in a year, but more like a bunch of specific targets (events, chapters, specific style themes, etc.) that some characters are supposed to hit. If certain girl hits two targets in 4 months, she gets 2 styles in 4 months, they don't care. And then there are girls who don't currently have any targets, and these are truly random and released on a whim.';

'>>4183175
I'm pretty sure TsuKaren style will happen when chapter 5 part 2 come out considering it was the case with RukaYuki, especially since part 2 is focused on Karen (and Tsukasa most likely).';

'>>4183241
Hard to say because it was also the anniversary month. 5.2 release unison is more likely because it just makes the most sense, but I can see them doing a swimsuit event into the unison release too, like suits last year.';

'This freaking artist';

'Draws all the rarepairs. But I actually like their MeguRuka. Thery are the most bizarre couple.';

'I for one like the new Tsukasa style. The story writes itself.

>Lately Mari wonders where Adel-chan goes to, in such a weirdly revealing dress instead of the cute ninja outfit she wears around her all the time. One day she witnesses "by chance" that Adel meets an EXTREMELY revealing and perverted looking bunny girl. Mari has to admit, both are blonde, have similar eye colors and they look nice.. but still. That pervert better gets away from Adel-chan!
After calming herself a bit, she realizes that this pervert must be Tsukasa from 31a... and there's something else. An eerie presence not far from her. Silently she moves towards that presence, and meets.. Karen-chan. All it took was one look between the two, and an alliance was born...

All a matter of perspective. It helps that I got a dupe from Adel's ice (ninja) form today in the gacha, and right after.. Mari's ninja form. I feel like these two always come together to me. Now they are lb4. My first and only ones, on the very same day..';

'>>4183306
Anon, you must understand that nobody would be complaining about this if they gave it a yuri angle. But they didn't. If this was a unison style where Karerin is kissing Tsukasa's bunny-butt any chance she gets and all her voice lines were about how she can't get enough sleep because Asakura-san is insatiable at night everyone here would have been mostly supportive. Even if the outfit is still shit, stupid, impractical and badly drawn.

It's the fact that it's maximum horny bait, maximum waifu bait and from the way the art is done, to how the camera focuses on her tits and ass in her ult, to the home screen lines all being addressing the player in sexual or seductive ways... that's why this is the worst thing WFS has done yet.';

'>>4183306
Yurifags and especially yuri artists trying to "claim" these styles is kind of dumb. What actually happens is that WFS gets fan art of their new style from the part of the playerbase they just shat on, it's a complete win-win scenario for them and invites them to do more of it.';

'>>4183345
This is a pointless battle, because they will do it whether yurifags like it or not. Waifufag money is too good. If you want to complain then you have to do it in their surveys and directly.

Meanwhile doing yuri art with this shitty style is the only way to have anything worthwhile come out of it. After all boycotting art won't make the style disappear. I'd rather there be more yuri art than less.';

'>>4183349
I don't see it as pointless though. We can't "win", but artists have a very clear choice to support it by giving it more visibility and fandom presence, or to draw a yuri art about literally anything else. I would rather them pick the second option. But well, everyone is free to do what they want.';

'>>4183355
Be realistic. This style is going viral even if all yurifags collectively ignored it. A bunch of normal artist did fanart of it within hours of announcement. The yuri artists that did something with it are a drop in the ocean. It is absolutely pointless, numerically, finanically, visibility wise.
But you know where the competition for attention is much lower? In surveys and direct messages to the management. Not even 1% of the people who will spend money on this or drool over it on twatter will actually give feedback in that kind of place. So if many people get vocal about their distaste for this bullshit there you will hit the devs more directly. They will probably not change their ways, because money always wins, but they will at least be more willing to find a middle ground to maximize approval.

It's the best you can hope for. In the meantime I will enjoy yuri art. even of the worst styles. Some of my favorite yuri art came out of those horrid wedding styles last year.';

'>>4183357
In that case I'll just quit. WFS has clearly sold out to waifufags. The terrible pacing, unimaginative gameplay, and now this shit. I hope it goes well for everyone involved, but I see no point in continuing to support them when they value profits over player sentiment';

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'Have they ever timed 4koma releases with new banners before? Interesting.';

'>>4183480
Tallk about being hysterical. Don't you play this game for the story? The actual content of the game is not waifufag focused at all. The gacha and the actual game are basically separately handled.
The perfect example would be the memory episodes that came along with the slut style. That one was completely focused on Tsukasa's yuri ship. And I find that quite a bit more important than some home screen lines for a non-canon style.

Unless you are just in this game for the gacha...';

'>>4183635
I don't think that's usually feasible. The artist isn't exactly informed about styles months ahead of schedule. Interesting coincidence.';

'https://twitter.com/heavenburnsred/status/1776520219072331979
Some based staff members are trying to compensate for top management being weird.';

'>>4183701
>suit Megumin with normal Tama
If Tama had also been in a suit it would have just been the normal theme, but this proves that artist understand Megumin looks the best in the suit hanging out with her deviant electro-fetish gf.';

'Oh right in the new memory episode Tsukasa and Karen-chan competed in front of Yukki who can seduce Ruka better.';

'>>4183780
I can see how the memo story about this would go already.
>Karen-chan and Tsukasa come up with the most elaborate plots
>Ruka thinks they're just fucking around and doesn't respond as she would to a real seduction attempt
>Yuki is slightly jelly, but is mostly dumbfounded by what is even happening in front of her
>The attempts are getting more and more bold, Yuki gets more and more jelly
>As they are about to reach the peak of their seduction efforts, Megumi(or Tama) comes in and asks Ruka something completely mundane, like go out to eat together
>Ruka agrees and just leaves
>KareTsuka agree to a draw, Yuki screams loudly';

'>>4183786
Karen-chan't genius plan was to show Ruka her panties. I don't think her genius can be topped.';

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'Did you notice that every squad has a back up leader to fall on if the squad leader dies?
31A = Yukki (as we just saw in the bad ending)
31B = Ichigo (already happened)
31C = Mari (has taken command several times now)
31D = Risa (she's the most levelheaded)
31E = Niina (she already acted like a squad leader before and her entire event set her up to step out of Ichiko's shadow)
31F = Kanata (duh, even Yanagi wants her to become a leader)
31X = Maybe Irene... this is the only one I'm not sure about. Irene has keen instincts, thinks things through and has social competence. Yunyun obviously has leading qualities too though.
30G = Miya (although if they lose Yuina there really is no way 30G will remain as a squad)';

'Maybe it's just on my side, but I've noticed that youtube's algorithms find Slutkasa too lewd to promote. When they release a new style, youtube always aggressively shills official shorts of the new styles when you search for something HBR related. I see Yunyun's one every time, but I haven't seen Tsukasa even once.';

'>>4184189
I laughed hard when they showed a photo of the public ad for Slutkasa and they had to cover up her tits and ass with logos and information.
I know they also did that during the swimsuit promotions, but still.';

'>>4184195
It is funny. These ads also seem to be a new regular thing, not just someone giving one to Koju because they felt like it.';

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'This is damn beautiful. This artist really gets what the game is about (the pairings). No but really, some fans just go above and beyond.
https://twitter.com/RINKI_ohen21/status/1776807157390086210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDyosQxLP-E';

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'>>4184802
What a random pairing.';

'>>4184392
How does the contest go? Do wfs just randomly decide the winner or is there public voting?';

'>>4184938
Last time it was decided by the artists involved in the game, so Yuugen, Key's artists, and the few wfs ones.';

'>>4184938
No idea. Right now they are still posting pictures drawn by the staff. From what I remember of the countdown to the 2nd anniversary they do pick art from people on Twitter and Pixiv and probably message them first.';

'>>4184941
The pictures from the staff were countdown for the deadline, it ended yesterday.';

'>>4184944
Anon, why are you always such an annoying stickler? The point was that the only arts they uploaded up to this point are staff made art. Your correction has nothing to do with what I actually said.';

'Byakko's birthday... and for some reason this artist insists she will get the next swimsuit style.';

'>>4184954
Sumomo... curb your bestiality kink.';

'>>4184954
I thought she would become a gag maid/waitress to follow Aoi, but they gave it to Koju instead.';

'>>4184892
Based on the original tweet date, it's probably banner-based. It was drawn after dress Yuki -> onsen Isuzu gachas, so the artist probably just paired them like that.';

'>>4184961
Maybe. Though if I remember right in Isuzu's first SS memory she told Ruka she will only give massages to beautiful girls and then Ruka brought Yukki and Isuzu said she can work with that and made her moan.

Dang I just want more Isuzu screentime. Preferably stuff where she hits on girls. I like the obvious incest crush she has on Ichiko, but that is not gonna go anywhere anytime soon. Isuzu's yuri ASMR for Inori was real nice at least.';

'https://youtu.be/y3ob7laaAFk?t=855
They did the character impression segment in the latest radio episode. Yuki's VA is really good at playing Carol. I knew Megumi would be difficult, but I didn't expect her to be impossible-tier for all 3 of them.';

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'>>4184981
Karen's Iroha was actually fine.
Tama's Bungo impression was so bad lol
Yuki's Carol was pretty on point, but she didn't say the word HERO enough.
Karen's Karen-chan impression was the worst. She should really reconsider her role.
Nobody in that room could do Kansai dialect.Karen's Megumin sounds like Karen-chan aping Megumin to mess with her.

That was fiun though. Do they do those segments all the time? I never watch these.';

'>>4185059
They do different segments, but when it's only two of them, it's usually just normal VA radio level, not something must have to watch unless you're a fan of the characters/VAs. When they have guests, it's usually worth checking, especially if you care about the guest. Right now they have a 100 episode celebration where every 31A VA would be a guest for 2 episodes each, these should be fun. IIRC, it's Yuki > Megumi > Tsukasa > Ruka.';

'Some fun chibi art from the contest.';

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'>>4185093
>dark hero Caroline Reaper vs. the demon Instructor from hell
Now that is a match I wanna see. I can't believe she got Shiki, Yunyun and Higuchi to buff her.';

'https://exhentai.org/g/2867920/9cb354475c/
Someone dumped full art book on panda a few weeks ago.';

'!?';

'This makes so much more sense.';

'>>4185142
>dumping a serious artbook on a porn site
Ooookay?
>>4185144
I actually saw someone post this on Twatter. The Tsukasa dropping her weapon part is pretty on point.
>>4185145
>Kancolle floating gun turret Tama
Did they have to make it this obvious?';

'>>4185163
>Ooookay?
A lot of people do that actually, panda is probably one of the biggest archives of random anime artbooks.';

'>>4185175
Well, I'll just download it and not look back.

Speaking of the book, I wish some of these poses and animations had been used. They are so dynamic. Megumin holding her sword over her shoulders looks so damn cool. Ruka kicked her secon sword into the enemy is badass. More unique touches like that would really improve the experience.';

'Monaka's seraph page actually talks about her seraph upgrade?';

'>>4185201
Are you talking about the artbook or something else?
One thing the artbook made me realize that I had never noticed is that Seraphs actuall look different between A, S and SS style. It's actually getting physically more intricate. This seems to be the case for everyone. It's a given for alternate SS styles because the costume changes completely, but to see that they even made differences on the lower tiers is quite something.';

'>>4185189
This blocking pose would make for a really cool defender style aesthetic where she just puts the sword in the ground and TANKS instead of blocking with the floaty seraph like all defenders do.
>More unique touches like that would really improve the experience.
This is something I see people asking for on a regular basis, but the message is not getting through.
>>4185208
>One thing the artbook made me realize that I had never noticed is that Seraphs actuall look different between A, S and SS style
Yes, it has always been like that. What's interesting is that everyone in the story uses their A seraphs, so it's unclear if they will evolve in the future or if it's purely a gameplay thing.';

'>>4185214
>everyone in the story uses their A seraphs
I'm pretty sure that the blade Monaka impales Kura with is the SS version of her evolved sword. It's way bigger than the A version.
I didnt bother checking on all other CGs or cutscenes, but that one obviously stood out.';

'>>4185217
>I'm pretty sure that the blade Monaka impales Kura with is the SS version of her evolved sword.
Looks like A to me.';

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'Remember that one stray anon that came here to claim the game has no fanart?';

'>>4185301
Probably because no exposure in the west. Dynasty has 1 fanart and 1 doujin when hoyoshit is like every 4th fanart, tvtropes however lame this site is barely half-assed a page, all twitter fanart is in jp segment. And not many doujins overall. I can name only 1 RukaYuki and a series of Amari ones.';

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'>>4185333
If you include digital works as doujins (which obviously you should) then I have seen at least 12. 3 RukaYukki, 3 Amari, 2 YanaShiki, 3 IchiAo, one IchiAo/AkaMisa crossover.
And that's if I don't count the loose series of that Megumin teacher AU where Tama is a student and works like that.

There is plenty of HBR art on pixiv too, not just twitter. But I guess that doesn't matter if you ain't looking for it. Which applies to all fanart. The fact that Dynasty is hopelessly useless is nothing new. The mods there are super biased to certain franchises and have continuously ignored anything niche I suggested. It's freaky how 90% of art there is for non-yuri series or non-canon ships. All "subtext" or delusional fanart from hetshit or CGDCT.';

'>>4185579
There is also a sort of harem comedy doujin for Yukki with her at the center of Ruka/Mari/Higuchi.';

'>>4185585
If we're including previews like that, I've seen at least around 10 RukaYuki ones. If only shipping from Japan didn't cost me so much. But I've seen a few getting translated to Chinese (which I can't read) like this https://manhuagui.com/comic/50242/722646.html

And the biggest ship tag on pixiv, the RukaYuki tag, is also almost at 1000 works due to the large amount of fics. And if you dig around on Twitter, the Korean fandom is also pretty active despite how small it is and how they often don't tag art.
As for English fandom, I guess there are a few fics on Ao3 but I haven't seen art.';

'>>4185595
Previews? You can buy the full thing on melonbooks.';

'>>4185601
Isn't it a preview for a physical doujin? Unless the artist is also offering a digital version which I might have missed.';

'>>4185610
I don't think they sell previews on melonbooks.';

'>>4185612
I might not have been clear enough and I think you misunderstood what I was saying. There are a bunch of samples/previews of physical doujins on melonbooks that are easily to find of course, but scans of the whole thing like the RukaYuki one on Dynasty and the Chinese translation I linked are rare, which can make doujins seem rare, unlike other series where such doujins are more easily accessible to fans who live outside Japan to the point that people might know more about fanworks than the actual series. But of course, if you know where to look and if you can afford to get your hands on them, the fanart scene isn't dead.';

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'>>4185622
No, I was just making a joke about the fact that you can buy it on melonbooks. For money. So it would be pretty silly if it was just a sample.';

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'Another artist who really understands the pairings and the group dynamics of the game.';

'Speaking of doujins that we can't get
https://twitter.com/Hydroxy_122/status/1778000082497056898
This KareTsuka one looks amazing and it will only be available at an irl convention. We really can't win.';

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'Need more IchiAo banter and teasing like at the end of the Idol event...';

'She claims what is hers.';

'Something interesting on twitter. There are japanese that are butthurt about Slutkasa as well. So it not just /u/. wfs managed to piss off japanese, and from that angle which is rare. People in the comments generally agree with the poster.';

'>>4186930
I even saw people on 5ch questioning it, which is insane because the threads there are supposedly filled with the exact audience they were targeting with this style. Most people can just feel this weird, unnecessary desperation radiating from this style.';

'>>4186930
There were even some negative comments on the official announcement post, which usually doesn't happen because Japs are too conformist to openly and publically call someone out.

The absolute majority doesn't care and completely eats it up though, so that still won't matter.

>>4187015
Yeah, it oviously is a big departure of what the game was like until now. And they did it with a popular character who isn't even known for being sexualized. They didn't even do small steps towards it, they went all in.
Even if you like this shit, you'd still normally question it. It's like booting up Elden Ring and suddenly there is a hyper-sexualized bikini armor amazon who comes onto your character and moans on every hit. You would at least be baffled why they would do this.';

'>>4187018
It's like the other anon said, the "small step" is her swimsuit style. Also
>Elden Ring
>naked
That won't be necessary when the MC is naked the whole game anyway.';

'>>4187060
>swimsuit style is small step
No that's retarded. There are a bunch of characters with swimsuit styles and they are mostly tastefully done, including Tsukasa. Just because something can be sexy doesn't mean it's treated as hornybait. Anyone who think the swimsuit styles are comparable to this is stupid.
>MC naked
First of all you cant actually go naked without a nude mod and secondly I was talking about sexualization dumbass.';

'>>4187063
Anon, I'm sorry but her swimsuit animation was pure hornybait. There's nothing tasteful about that leg movement, it's just an excuse for her to spread her legs on screen.';

'>>4187063
It's a joke, anon. Also bunny girl is a staple in gacha at this point together with swimsuit so it's not really a suprise.';

'>>4187069
You are crazy. It literally just focuses on her leg, not on any spread. Sure, there are people who are more into thighs anyway, but it's far from a hornybait animation. It focuses more on beauty than sex appeal, which is pretty much the idea with all the swimsuit styles until now.

>>4187071
Irrelevant to the point. You can make bunny girl styles more tasteful than this. It's a poor and shitty choice for HBR anyway, but at least they could have mitigated some of the damage. They didn't. They put as much sexual camera emphasize on her tits and ass as humanly possible and made her use the most digusting innuendo lines on the home screen. It's not even funny how much worse this is than anything the game has ever done, including the wedding styles.';

'>>4187086
>You are crazy.
You are delusional. It was a horny bait sex appeal style that sold on sex appeal and won that year's popularity poll on sex appeal. If you don't want to accept that, then there is no point in discussing this subject with you.';

'>>4187088
Just because you are too stupid to see the difference between people being horny for a style and a style being made to maximize horny appeal doesn't mean I have to accept it. There is pretty much no difference between swimsuit Tsukasa and swimsuit Yuina in the way they appeal or how much they expose. If you think Yuina's swimsuit is hornybait too, then I understand what kind of moron you are at least.';

'>>4187090
That style was absolutely made to make people horny. It wasn't as blatant as the bunny, but it was them dipping their toes in, they knew what they were doing back then. So you can't really say "a popular character who isn't even known for being sexualized" when she was in fact the first character to introduce that kind of thing in the first place. If anything, Tsukasa is one of the most obvious popular character to get exploited like this. If they tried this on Yuki first, THAT would be surprising, them going for Tsukasa is expected.';

'>>4187092
I mean you can just be wrong on everything all you want, but please don't act like your wrongness is common sense. You can't even justify in any way how Tsukasa's swimsuit style is more sexualized than Yuin, Ruka or Yukki's. Because it isn't. And an animation focusing on beautiful legs in a dance like motion has nothing to do with sexualization. Maybe if they zoomed in on her ass and crotch for it, but then they could have done that in any animation anyway.
You really don't get it at all.
And then you just say without any actual logic that Tsukasa is the most obvious to exploit for this. Fucking stupid. Tsukasa is in the bishoujo category, not the coomerbait category. And all of her styles and depictions until now understood and adhered to that.

Ruka's swimsuit is legitimately more sexualized than anyone else's and nobody is making this kind of jump, because Ruka is not in the coombait category either. When it comes to physique, Yukki and Megumin are the ones that would conventionally be abused for sexualized content.';

'>>4187095
Yeah, you're just delusional, whatever.';

'>>4187097
The only delusion I had was that you can actually make a proper argument for your stance. Obviously I shouldn't be this gullible.';

'>>4187098
Nta but I do agree that Tsukasa is the best one in 31A for these styles. Yukki and Megumin's designs feel way too rough to have this kind of appeal.';

'>>4187100
Beauty and sexualization have different focuses. If you put Yukki in a coomberbait outfit she would fit right in (just appearance wise of course). Megumin also would very easily lean into sex appeal if they tried.
Tsukasa doesn't suit that role unless they try as hard as they did with this shitty bunny girl style.

The only one in 31A who can't pull it off at all is Tama, but she is loliconbait so she has her own subsection.';

'>>4187102
I mean you can put anyone in a bunny suit, but for Yukki and Megumin it would feel like gap moe considering their usual expression. I've seen plenty of people that consider Tsukasa to be the hottest 31A since launch so it's not a surprise they give these styles to her.';

'>>4187109
>their usual expression
What does that even mean? You mean their personality and sprites? Yeah Tsukasa isn't a slut or has "expressions" that suit it either. That's not what it's about. I'm telling you if you put Yukki or Megumin in this kind of outfit they would effortlessly suit that hornybait, even if it was far less sexualized than this. Lower effort to reach the same shittiness level.
Whoever you find the hottest is subjective and disgusting and irrelevant, but everyone in 31A is intentionally attractive (even Tama to the jailbait crowd). Tsukasa is bishoujo as I already pointed out. That means she is pretty/beautiful, not sexy, archetype wise anyway. Just like Ruka falls into the ikemen girl archetype.

You are all so obssessed with your personal preferences and shit, but I'm talking marketing, archetypes and appeal here. Waifufags are horny for every waifu and will drool over any skimpy outfit. But when we discuss who is being chosen for what role, Tsukasa is not the actual correct option.

And it doesn't fucking matter, because none of the girls should get this treatment. This topic pisses me off so much... I'm done here.';

'Don't tell me people here are so basic that they don't get the dance theme with Tsukasa's styles? All her moves are inspired by ballet. It's supposed to be elegant. The swimsuit style wasn't being horny. That's why this slut style doesn't fit her theme at all.';

'Was this in the game and I don't remember, or is 4koma artist just making up character traits at random now?';

'>>4187543
Isn't it just a joke about Tsukasa trying to outdo Risa-mama?';

'>>4187547
The implication from the character description is that she loves her mother so much it translates into strong motherhood, so when she tries to act motherly to mimic Risa-mama she naturally excels at it. Which is not a bad idea in itself, but when I see 4koma titled 31Aの母, I expect to see Yuki or maybe 4.2 Megumi, not the artist inventing the trait for the character whose running joke is that she's kodomo~ shougakusei~';

'>>4187553
It's not a trait in the game, but these 4koma often do exaggerate things for a joke. Pretty sure suit Megumin doesn't literally fly into space when she uses her ult.

When we talk about Tsukasa's motherly traits, I think she only really shows them off when she babies Karerin. Surprisingly there are a lot of examples of her telling Asakura to show some manners, not to ear fastfood or to take better care of herself. This even extends to Karen-chan lately. Somewhere in chapter 5 airhead Tsukasa scolds Karen-chan for being rude and doesn't back down on it.

Of course A!Tsukasa doesn't have any motherly traits. She is just a sarcastic bitch. Which makes her the best character in the game.';

'>>4187543
No way they erased Yukki's mom traits just to call her the dad.';

'>>4187573
Ruka does often say Yukki is manlier than any man...';