'mordhau took off. the devs killed it because they thought appealing to the 50 chiv duelfags was a much higher priority than the million people who just wanted to have fun in team objective gamemodes. so instead of making new maps or gamemodes that don't just devolve into TDM because the objectives are so uncompelling, they removed all the goofy shit that gave even bad players ways to have fun, reworked the combat that was already functioning fine dozens of times, added ranked matchmaking, and spent the rest of their time finding new ways to spend years developing features that don't actually make the game any better.';

'its does pretty well......not sure what you mean OP?
>>1220708
mordhau is inferior in game/ population';

'>>1220648
>Join a server
>Pick the bow and arrow guy
>Use my bow to shoot someone with an arrow
>Get kicked from the server
It is a mystery.';

'>>1220648
Extremely high skill ceiling makes it difficult for low skill players to be effective against better enemies. Even if a noob gets the drop on a high level player, they'll still lose the 1v1 fight 9/10 times.';

'>>1221892
over 200 hours of game time.........this never happens.';

'>>1220708
>DUELING'S GOING TO BE THE NEW HECKIN ESPORT
this sucked, mordhau had a ton of potential.
At launch I did nothing but horse+spear faggotry and raged the shit out of every chiv vet duel faggot who would come to objective servers to dunk on random noobs. This is really why horses were nerfed, because it gave you power over the discord faggots in a way I haven't seen since Battlefield 2 jets.';

'>entirely different game
>still seething about Chivfags
As someone who only really played For Honor, it's odd seeing people cry about an entirely different game and claim their oversaturated meta was fun and the rebalance wasn't.';

'>>1222267
They arent that different.';

'Probably the only game I've played where the anti-cheat is practically non-existent, but the methods of cheating don't do much.
>aimbot
>makes arrows more likely to hit but not guaranteed anyway
>same aimbot allows character to swing faster
>but aims for "bone", so either has to be super abusive obvious or pointless';

'>>1220708
FPBP
They appeal too much to duel/sweat fags and not enough to the casual audience. I don't wanna have to try my ass off every multiplayer game. I have a lot of fun in Napoleonic wars. Black wake was fun for casuals.';

'>>1224082
What does this even mean? Why do you have to try unless you get butthurt about losing? If you lose you lose.';

'>>1224174
nta but devs catered to no more than 40 spergs on discord that were ultra autistic duel vets from Chiv because they thought it would be the next huge esport
They neglected the part of the game that the vast majority of their players actually played and didn't appreciably improve anything about dueling. This was even before whoever forced them to hire tranny sex pests as chat mods to bury the game on purpose.';

'>>1222246
>he never got kicked simply cose a tranny felt like opening a votekick on you
pics or it didnt happen';

'>>1224174
A game catered to tryhards isn't fun if you aren't also tryharding, getting massively steamrolled isn't fun. Mordhau died for a reason so idk what you're coping about. The only reason it was ever popular was because it was casual chaotic fun.';

'>>1224174
when mordhau released, there were a lot of ways to have fun that didn't just involve being good at 1v1s. you could fuck around with the toolbox. you could cuck toolbox users with firebombs. you could shoot people with ranged weapons. you could get on a horse. you could cuck horses with a billhook. you could be annoying with smoke bombs. these were all ways that you could have some casual fun even if you were bad at the game or felt like just doing something else. duelfags wanting to club seals in pubs would fill their pants when people weren't le playing the game right so all of these playstyles were nerfed to the point of uselessness.';

'>>1220648
It released as an epic exclusive, took a year to get even halfway working cross play, controller is hugely disadvantaged to kbm, devs fucked the servers with every update, rdm is still rampant in duel servers, objective games favor attacking team so all the people who know what they're doing (>lvl 100) use a bug to team switch and stack leaving lower levels fucked. The dev team is steaming shit to the point that we caused their hired community manager to step down. I only play 64s now, the game had so much potential and it got ruined by the development team.

>t. 1800 hour duelfag';

'>>1221892
You probably joined a duel server without realizing it bro.';

'>>1220648
>Why didn't this genre take off?
Because the tryhard fags all went overboard with "mastering" the glitchy mechanics to cheese out combat.
Then they insisted it was a feature and not a bug.
So when Mordhau and CHIV2 came out the no fun autists chased off the "lol sword go brr" nerd scrubs (like myself).';

'>>1222259
Yep. Similar issue with For Honor.
They focused on the dueling over any kind of objective based modes as even the obj modes are so shallow its just less good sweats dunking on casuals.';

'Shooters work much better on a screen. All melee games are super janky and feel like shit.';

'>>1220708
Great post. Competitive faggots are a cancer upon gaming. Literally every developer that balances for them ends up killing their game, big or small. Who could have guessed that pandering specifically to the extremely vocal 1% of your playerbase is going to piss the other 99% of casual players off?';

'>>1228782
100% facts. Competitive fags are like the kids on the playground who want to make rules for how to play cops and robbers, or cowboys and Indians that directly benefit themselves.
So many games suffer from this these days too.
There is something to be said about having some element of "balance", but their balance isn't a healthy balance.
Good balance takes the game as a whole and tries to make ALL elements of gameplay competitive with each other; or at least offer a rock paper scissors style of counters balance.
For the competitive fag tho, its not about having a wide variety ways to play/strategies, its about narrowing down the gameplay to a small niche strategy in which "technical skill" dominates and no other forms of gameplay can disrupt their circle jerk.

The Finals is a great example of a game going through a similar struggle.
One side supports crazy explosives, equipment and level/building destruction, while the other side (the "competitives") all want most shit nerfed to uselessness so that mid range aim duels with rifles and smgs are the only valid form of "competitive" gameplay.
I think the devs are finally pumping the breaks as the community as a whole are beginning to reject those players and their demands for that kind of balance, but for a while it seemed the balance was focusing around that sort of mindset';

'>>1229393
>mid range aim duels with rifles and smgs are the only valid form of "competitive" gameplay.
arent there tons of other games for this already';

'>mordhau is popular
>devs decide to cater to esports niggers like >>1220708 says
>spend months with radio silence between updates
>updates are always dogshit
>maps are terrible, they made them for looks instead of gameplay
>devs hire 50+ moderators to police the servers
>mod just abuse their powers to spawn shit, ban people for playing how they dont like, etc.
>game is already on life support and they are banning what little players they have left';

'>>1220648
i don't see a game like this having mass appeal, but both chiv and mordhau could have more active players if the devs weren't so retarded

>>1230154
>they made them for looks
KEK
what fucking looks? all of the maps are terribly made. every time i hop into a server i cant stop noticing how the assets are clipping, and how retardedly everything is laid. chivalry 2 completely blows this game without even trying. the only thing going on for mordhau is the combat and the animations (def not from an artistic standpoint though, they are just clearer to read)';

'>>1229907
Yeah, you'd think so.
This is why CODfags are so cancerous. It's not enough they have a million games to cater to their preferred play style of fps, but they also have to metastasize into every other game in the fps genre and make them as close to theirs as they can; as if other games with different skill priorities diminish their status.
And if they cant change it, they seethe at the game's existence.';

'>>1229393
Yea you want bullshit instant kill thrown objects. Nothing creative about it, actually it shuts down all other gameplay.';

'>>1221877
No. Chivalry and Mordhau are two of a kind, not too many other pvp games where team based melee is this focal.';

'>>1220708
>>1222259
Yeah nobody is interested in that tryhard garbage. Its only a tiny amount of people. Then they rage and come to my archer videos to complain at me. I would just catapult everyone, ballista them, kill them on the horse, throw javs at them, or just pick random nonsense off the ground and chuck it at them and still be top 1-3 of the scoreboard. Nobody has time to learn some micromanagement spin adjustment nonsense to cheese people in ways that abuse some nonsensical game engine mechanics. The majority of people just want to play video games. Then they get mad when I 2 tap them by headshotting them at a distance with my bow 3 times or throwing a jav into their head and body because they cant 1-tap me with their totally fair 4x longer sword with more stamina etc. Maybe if it had some perfect parry thing but even then in reality all that happens is that you still lose because 2 guys swing at you from different directions so that your parry lands outside of your reach range to hit them and they kill you or OOS you, so then the only thing you can do is also play the tryhard 2h weapons and then you just lose because you havent spent 500 hours to abuse mechanics in a weird way and I dont want to make the game my full time job, just so i can compete in one specific way.

Its the same shit that killed battlefield. Every class just became AR medic and if you werent medic and using the AR you would grief yourself. Then they took knife 1 hit away from me. Then they took pistol dmg away from me. Then they made sniper rifle headshot require 3 headshots to kill someone. Then they took c4 on cars away from me. Then they took at-mines on cars away from me. Then all I had left was rpgs and manual guided rockets. Fucking all the fun is removed for this sake of fucking being an esports tryhard when the realtiy is that 99.99% of people are all utter garbage. I can beat them while doing stupid meme things. If I tryhard, I can get top rank or top 100 usa, but its not fun.';

'>>1237960
>and still be top 1-3 of the scoreboard
nice aprils first joke';

'>>1222259
>This is really why horses were nerfed, because it gave you power over the discord faggots in a way I haven't seen since Battlefield 2 jets.
Horses were never nerfed. Applying higher damage to the rider at high speed. Thats pretty much the only change they got. Which doesnt matter because if the horse even brushes against you, it will bump you and interrupt your attack while the rider still swings at you.
If anything horses were buffed since toolboxes got constantly nerfed and gutted with every single patch';

'why did this get made? what is it trying to fix/improve?';

'>>1220708
great post, mordhau was fun but like so many multiplayer games the tryhards ruined all the fun';

'Too hyper realistic to be exciting for zoomers with low attention spam. They need epic, fast, short attention.';

'>>1220708
fpbp, I want to siege a castle and be part of Mount and Blade fight populated with real players, not 1v1 some sperg spinning wildly into a 1-tap';

'I quite liked Mordhau.';

'>>1242297
comp teamplay.
its for sweatlords';

'Another Horde mode overhaul coming to Snorehau on the 29th, the 5 year anniversary since release.
Changing horde mode gameplay, inventory, enemy spawning other shit like that. Also making the enemies demons. Demon Horde.

webm unrelated. Just a fun role they removed from Feitoria for no fucking reason';

'pic related, from their announcement.
Also triple xp gold that weekend if, as well as getting a 5 year anniversary emblem if you log in during that time';

'still play chiv2 all the time what do you mean';

'>>1259305
played 200 hours of mordhau and honestly did love it but got very bored eventually, cuz 1v1s got so brainless and there were no full lobbies in the high player count modes.

chiv2 has been a lot more fun for me personally';

'I almost wish chiv 2 and mordhau never came out. they are inferior to chiv 1 and destroyed its population';

'Things that were a step down from Chiv1 to Mordhau
>javelin play
>map design
>loss of FAAAAAGATHAAAAAAAA and THE GAY SON REBELLION ENDS NOW!';

'>>1260056
As far as maps go, it's:
Age of Chiv < Mordhau < Chiv 2 <<< Chiv 1

The TO was what made Chiv 1 so special, not the combat system. Chiv 1's maps had the best atmosphere, best aesthetic, best storyline, and most fun objectives. It didn't so heavily favor the attackers either, encouraging team stacking like Chiv 2.';

'>>1266566
Attackers are way more fun. Defense is snoresville and frustration. Don't blame me for joining offense every round, blame the game.';

'>>1266566
I only play offense, I hate playing defense because most of the maps were designed to be pushed by offense so playing as defense you just kept falling back which is no fun to me. And sometimes they have this 27 second spawn times for defense which is just ridiculous, if I quit the game and join a new one it might even be faster than just waiting that 27 sec';

'>>1259327
Mordhau has well and truly jumped the shark.';

'>>1259793
basically';