'Oops its only 20 years old';

'GameFreak has never made a good game
Not one';

'Oh, look what else came out in 2005';

'>>55789117
Game Freak is tired of Pokemon, that's why.
I can't exactly blame them, becuase they've been more or less working on the same one franchise for nearly 30 years. Even other companies with highly successful IPs don't just pop out games in one franchise over and over again.

That's why Game Freak is trying to "seperate" themselves from Pokemon, as they have made more non-Pokemon games in the past decade than the previous 20 years. Game Freak just forgot two teeny little problems with that
>Their non-Pokemon games suck (or at least are worse than Pokemon)
>They're only relevant because of Pokemon';

'>>55789255
Yeah and all their non-Pokémon shit fails because they are bad game designers.';

'>>55789255
My not just hire a group of game designers who actually DO want to work on pokemon and then go make whatever new games they want?';

'>>55789117
> How does a 25 year old game [LIE]';

'>>55789255
Honestly I've quitted there if my A-team game only reached a 11 players peak too.';

'>>55789416
Gale of Darkness does not have a draw distance of 20 feet like Scat/Vomit does.';

'>>55789471
shut up meg. It's a true work of art.';

'>>55789117
I wonder what Pokemon would look like today if Nintendo had bought 100% of the franchise and while they are in charge of main games every 4-5 years they gave the license to different studios to create various Spin-offs.

Imagine the cameos or secret bosses';

'>>55789117
It's difficult to do modern graphics on decade-old phone hardware like the switch is crippled with.

Gamefreak also doesn't want to put in the effort or hire the talent to do so.';

'>>55789117
no, it does not';

'>>55789117
>maybe if I lie and act disingenuous I can pretend my childhood games are good';

'>>55789429
>>55789429
>Honestly I've quitted there if my A-team game only reached a 11 players peak too.
QRD?';

'>>55790358
they are good!';

'>>55789117
>How does a 25 year old game look just as good as current gen?
it doesn't';

'>>55790358
I agree that XD looks worse, but it had way more effort put in.
The fact that trainers react to their pokemon getting hurt and fainting, while in SwSh, they just stand there with a soulless smile proves it.';

'I remember masturbating to this game by losing purposely to Lovrina then reading her dialogue in response to beating you or beating you once before.';

'>>55790653
Based, I used to do it to the female trainers in Mt Battle, mostly Cooltrainers and Chasers.';

'>>55790341
and yet almost every other switch game still manages to look far better. it's not the hardware man, it's just a lack of talent & passion. they just need to swallow their pride and outsource development already. it's not like they can't afford to.';

'>>55790490
Little Town Hero was such a Little Flop Hero that its peak player count on Steam was like 6 or something.';

'>>55790723
> and yet almost every other switch game still manages to look far better
nope';

'>>55790358
He's still right. It looks better. You're confusing "graphical quality" for "art style"';

'>>55790731
now show the Pokemon overworld vs those games';

'>>55790733
>He's still right
No he isn’t.';

'>>55790358
Okay now show me the battle animations.';

'>>55789117
Artstyle goes a long way';

'>>55790792
ok';

'>>55790358
SWSH's UI looks so ugly. XD's isn't the best, but it's far better compared to SWSH.';

'>>55790358
>he doesnt know the eevee is just a stadium asset making the 3d model at least 20 years older than the scorbunny who cant even double kick properly';

'>>55790895
>I-IT DOESN’T DOUBLE KICK!!
neither does anything in GoD';

'>>55789416
>>55790358
>>55790731
>>55790756
>>55790877
>>55790903';

'>>55790903
>he’s actually defending swooshit
do galarfags really?';

'>>55790873
game on the bottom is a game from a company crawling out of bankruptcy after about a decade';

'>>55790924
Though true, it doesn't change the fact that it does look (and run) like shit and is a good example of how more power doesn't necessarily mean better visuals';

'>>55790915
I’m defending the game that doesn’t waste my time with 7 second long move animations, yeah';

'>>55790961
you're right, why do games even need animations at all, it would save us all a lot of time if it was just a text adventure. after all my time is extremely valuable and that's why I'm playing children's video games';

'>>55790999
>you're right, why do games even need animations at all
to make the game look better and feel more immersive

the opposite of immersive is when I have to wait 7 seconds for zigzagoon to finish le ebin quirky walk back into position animation I’ve already seen five dozen times just because it got hit for 2 HP of damage';

'>>55789268
Because then that means the old guard will get less money from Pokemon.
They might hate making Pokemon and want to divorce themselves from it, but they still want as much profit as possible to go directly to their savings.';

'Yawnfag is cute, CUTE!';

'>>55789117
In terms of the actual models, SV are far ahead of Colo/XD in both poly-count and texturing. Some of the Stadium models looked bad even on the Gamecube, like Kangaskhan, Eevee and the Machop-line. Where Colo/XD (and even the Stadium games) shit all over Gamefreak is in the animations and camerawork. HAL and Genius Sonority create a level of immersion Gamefreak still hasn't, and likely won't ever, achieve.
https://youtu.be/fF616mnXxGU
https://youtu.be/gk3o5Gah0HQ
https://youtu.be/QppzBkUsyw4
https://youtu.be/naUPhMJPr7U';

'>>55789117
Switch isn't current gen. It's handheld gamecube.';

'>>55793834
3ds is the handheld gamecube. Switch has no excuse.';

'>>55789117
GS just knew what they were working with and knew how to make it look good. Game Freak on the other hand has had identity crisis after identity crisis gen after gen and in return everything either looks worse, runs worse, or in SV's case: both';

'>>55790726';

'>>55789117
It's unironically just antialising and having smaller region so you can afford to have better looking textures.

SV could have looked good with optimisation so the game can afford to run better textures and anti aliasing. They sacrificed that so they could run detailed character models, particles and light effects.';

'>>55790640
XD bult a lot on what Coloseum (and that's a good thing)

the gamecube have less pokemon models than SwSh and the region is smaller (but SwSh definitely went cheap on most of the animations)

XD could focus on improved models, new shadow moves and animations and QoLand bug fixes. (ball duplication bug was fixed, purification is less grindy, more usable pokémon, all purified pokémons have either egg moves or exclusive moves,...)';

'Reminder that Turner worked on both gamecube games and designed Shadow Lugia';

'>>55793902
>They sacrificed that so they could run detailed character models, particles and light effects.
They're fucking retarded then because the models look like some of the shittiest shit I've ever seen in my entire fuckin life and I don't give a cunt fuck about faggoty as fuck particles and light effects, on a fuckin piece of shit vintage tablet for fuckin beyond retarded extremely next level of poor 3rd world nigger-retards, when the game still looks like FUCKING GODAWFUL SHIT AND IS FUCKING GAY AND RETARDED AND SHITTY AS FUCKKKKKK!!!!!!!!! If you have a Switch you're a fuckin retarded fag I hope dies asap and you should be decapitated and have your bones scattered around where your family with never never never ever find them so they can never give you a proper burial because you don't deserve it and you don't count as a human and you are below an insect and your fuckin disgusting worthless retard bones deserve to just lay scattered in the woods getting pissed and shit on by animals because youre a fuckin worthless retard faggot detriment to humanity's gene pool if you have a SHITch fucking nigger.';

'>>55794562
h-h-hey I have a s-switch t-though…I…*sniff*…I just wanted to play s-s-smash and t-triangle strategy…I-I’m sorry….';

'>>55789268
Gamefreak has nothing else to offer. Handing pokemon to another studio is basically signing their own death warrant.';

'>DUUUDE, GRAPHICS!
You guys all sound like losers.';

'>>55789117
>25 year old game';

'>>55793926
Turner isn't terrible when you restrict his creative freedom. Shadow Lugia is a worse design than Lugia, but it works perfectly well as a temporary evil form of Lugia. His designs are much worse when he is making original Pokemon.';

'>>55794704
>anon says, while on /vp/';

'>Meanwhile, other current gen japanese game devs
What the fuck the pokemon company?';

'>>55789117
>How does a 25 year old game look just as good as current gen?
by having LITERALLY ANYONE as the devs besides SHITFREAK';

'>>55794606
GRAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!';

'>>55789117
The real question is why DPPt and BW looked so awful when it was well within the DS' capabilities to do 3D. If Game Freak hadn't been so lazy and put that work off until gen 6, maybe they'd have some competency with 3D modelling by now.

>>55794727
>Shadow Lugia is a worse design than Lugia
Why lie?';

'>>55795303
dp never should have been as horrifically slow as it was either';

'>>55795303
i think there'd be too many individual assets for a fully 3d game on the ds, let alone one that doesnt look like a low poly mess (especially with some more intricate pokemon designs)
but that's not much of an excuse because spinoffs like the ranger series had all (or almost all) of the pokemon with a consistent style and generally more appealing graphics on the same systems';

'>>55795530
My bro the literal launch title (like the only game worth buying) for the ds was a fully 3d game.';

'>>55795537
Yeah, that looked like shit. Mario 64 looks bad even for n64. (See banjo, conker which look much better) Dragon quest monsters joker 2 was a 3d rpg on the original ds that I never played but there's that, and GTA Chinatown Wars had nice 3d on ds.';

'>>55790915
>Bite/crunch is a energy projection';

'>>55795638
And some Transformers game had 3d open world';

'>>55796144
Stadium did it better with the camerawork. The move animation effect was also an "energy projection", but it covered the entire screen and was combined with the camera to make the attack look like a PoV shot on both ends.
Sad that after all this time that the Stadium series still has the most immersive battle animations, the best cries, and the best menu controls for a Pokemon game with the main series battle system.';

'>>55795303
>it was well within the DS' capabilities to do 3D
I've seen plenty of mostly 3D DS games, most of them look like ass. Off the top of my head games in the same genre like the two FF remakes or Nostalgia look kind of shitty, DQ9 uses sprites for lots of characters still which clashes a little with their use of 3D models for some characters, even games like Rune Factory and Avalon Code don't look super great. It's mostly the DS screen though, if you've ever played on an emulator 3D on the DS looks way better, unfortunately I mostly play on console.';

'>>55796144
it's a special move';