'anon I'm just not up for this thread tonight.';

'How many anons on here had/have one?';

'Rear projection CRTs are the best for light gun games';

'Weren't they highly susceptible to burn-in?';

'>>10859350
Never had one but they were a short lived curiosity in the late 90s- early 2000s. Well not entirely true, my geandpa was given a really old set with only S video and I played MGS2 on it. Very blurry. Same with a model they had in my apartment’s community room. Very blurry and they burnt their bulbs out constantly. Not at all worth owning.';

'>>10859341
I'm sorry :(';

'>>10859350
I did (well my folks did) in 1998. My parents were rickfags and had a $10,000 Sony one. Played the fuck outta Turok on it';

'>>10859350
my dad had a DLP until the chip wore out and it turned to snow. it is possible to replace the chip, but somewhat labor intensive. while it was working, it had a unique sparkly look, because the light was coming from tiny right triangular mirrors. The latency was significant, and i could see the three colors separately any time i moved my eyes. it's always like that with single-chip DLP

any time i've seen other kinds of rear projection tvs at others' home, they've seemed like dim garbage. there's still one in use on an Episode 1 Racer cabinet here, and i don't play it for free because the arcade version doesn't have crash damage.';

'>>10859337
It sucked. Colors always looked washed out, worried about burn in, tried to fit in the place of a crt but too large so it had awkward placement in a room. Now big screens are standard and fit on a wall, out of the way. Anyone old enough to be around console tvs understands that but these could be 3 times the size. Shadows were so bad on the screens too. Projection big screens were shit, good for watching sports with the boys but that's about it. Saw a resurgence in the mid 2000s because they were drastically cheaper than plasmas and the early lcds were shit.';

'All it takes is one well edited youtube video of one in prime condition to ignite the interest in them.';

'>>10859337
Was there lag in those things?';

'>>10859337
>not youtube approved meme display
>not enough room at foot of race car bed
>they're poorfag compensation garbage
Outside a few use cases front projection is far better.';

'>>10859350
We got one when our console TV (which I think was a lot like this one) died, but despite being expensive it was only 720p and 4:3, so it was outdated pretty quickly in terms of watching TV and movies. The guy who delivered it also warned us not to play video games on it because of burn in.';

'>>10859643
? they were basically just 3 crts with really bright lightbulbs behind them';

'>>10859902
the literal state';

'>>10859908
>be zoom zoom
>not know the difference between rear projection and dlp
cringe';

'>>10859337
Me, but I don't talk about them.
Gatekeep extra hard.';

'>>10859961
Can you even get rear-projection sets anymore. Last I saw, people got broken ones for free off craigslist, disassembled them and used the bigass lenses or mirrors or whatever to make 'superweapons' to focus concentrated sunrays onto shit to set it on fire.';

'>>10859902
lol';

'>>10859936
Rear projection would be the ass literally describing himself.
You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.';

'>>10859337
I love my mom's. It was my grandpa's before he passed away. I remember watching spirited away on it for the first time. Dark room, it was amazing. Oled level colors but almost better. Probably my imagination.';

'>>10859350
My parents had one in the early 2000s. The picture quality was not good. They were giving consumers what they wanted (the biggest screen possible) at the expense of literally everything else.';

'Don't want to deal with the trouble.';

'>>10859371
yep, pretty much every NES manual had a warning like pic related.';

'The one my family had was extremely dim, made playing darker games impossible. It wasn't a defect as far as I knew, just shitty technology.';

'Rear projection CRT displays can look quite good under optimal circumstances.
The problem is they require regular service and recalibration, or they will drift out of focus and convergence. This results in the blurry image they have a reputation for having.
Additionally, the viewing angles are not great. You need to be dead-on in front of them or you get a posterization effect. The more your angle is off the worse it gets.
There is also a large variance in the quality of the sets, more so than you'll find in direct view CRT televisions. Cheaper lenses in cheaper sets resulted in more chromatic aberration and vignetting around the outside edges of the image. The energy requirements of the three CRTs were significant, and some sets are not as bright as others (while promising to save energy).
In a best case scenario you'll be sitting on the sofa directly parallel several feet back from the screen in a dimly lit or dark room. With a later generation 1080i HDTV CRT RPTV and a good source material (these days I recommend a downsampled 4k video source) and recent calibration the image can be simply stunning. But it's a lot of hoops to jump through to get there.';

'>>10860670
>>10859350
my parents had one and it was exactly this, they were the shittiest TVs ever basically made for rich people to flex their wealth with how gigantic their TV was.';

'>>10860842
>made for rich people to flex their wealth
For the most part, quite the opposite. Most were absolute garbage and only bought by short dicked losers who thought it made them look like what you imagine. Sure, everyone came over to watch the game once. And when they found they had to turn off the lights and close every window to see anything, plus all pile onto the one chair that was within a decent viewing angle, they never came back.
There were decent ones. But they cost many times what the shit most people had.';

'I don't remember ambient light or particularly small viewing angle being a problem at all.';

'>>10861108
Well, it is impossible to remember things that happened before you were born. These are both well known problems with CRT rear projection TVs. Even the high end monitors that cost many times the price won't come close to the cheapest modern day chinkshit LCD on either.';

'>>10861195
Yeah bro, I'm just making up the hundreds of hours of DVDs I watched and Video Games I played on it.';

'>>10861212
Oh, is that what it is. I thought you just didn't know what kind of TV your daddy had. But makes sense. Zoomies will lie about anything.';

'>>10859337
I love rear projection sets and have a lot of nostalgia for them even for all their faults.
Right now I wish I was in a living room of a nice air conditioned middle-class home watching a 90s action movie on a rear projection TV while sitting in the corner spot of a big L-shaped overstuffed sofa.';

'>>10859643
Only in the latter era ones, similar to CRT HDTVS.';

'>>10859371
Highly susceptible? No.
Moderately susceptible? Yes.

Most units with heavy use have burnt-in images of VIDEO 1 in the upper left or right corner, and a fainter blur in the lower left and right corner from channel logos.

If a unit was only used in a home cinema set-up in a basement it probably won't have much burn-in. And then there were some wealthy owners who bough them but hardly ever turned them on because they were never home.';

'>>10859350
I grew up with one since I was a toddler, it was the first TV I ever remembered using, both for tv/movies and games. I never knew any of the problems with the TVs, and I still have fond memories of using it. I wish I still had one. The other year I noticed my neighbor throwing his out, but it was raining heavily when I first saw it and didn't know if it was salvageable. By the time I got back home it was already gone. I talked to him and he said he would have given it to me if he had known I liked older tvs, so I'm kicking myself that I never got it.';

'>>10859407
Damn, my parents were mortyfags. I was lucky to have a 13" crt with a VCR in it in my room to play PS1.';

'>>10859350

My uncle had one and I remember the picture quality being ugly compared to my crt at home.';

'>>10859383
Late early 80s, early 2000s. They became cost effective in the late 90s. They were a luxury in the late 80s early 90s. Every large electronics store had one or two on display in the 80s late 90s they had a large section of the floor. If you were looking at a nice audio system they were always parked near the "bigscreen" tvs. Half of the poor people had one by 2000s. I should know I had the heavy crt type in the late 90s and figured out how to manually converge the image. Got it from a family member that got the new light DLP type.';

'>>10860724
>>10860736
Sega bros we just keep winning.

Just joking around. But seriously as a poor big box electronic store lurker, I saw Genesis, 3do and CDi attached to rear projection TVs. For some reason never saw any Nintendo products, perhaps this is why.';

'>>10859350
It was the first TV we had that could do 1080i and had component input. It was horrible but I liked big screen.';

'>>10861893
By HD era convergence was programmable but even on DLP warmup would shift convergence a little. I remember setting a DLP perfectly then 30min later just the lower left corner looked bad. That's when I learned to wait an hour then set the convergence, only adjusted it a few times a year, very small changes.';

'>>10859371
>>10861730
I mean, I played tons of Final Fantasy games like 6 and 10 on my parents' projection tv and there was never burn in from the UI, so definitely not "highly". I'm sure it was slightly moreso than a normal CRT, and if you just left a game running on one of those for days it would burn in. From regular play though? No way.';

'>>10859350
My grandparents were obsessed with these. One in their bedroom, one in the living room, one in the hang out room, and one in the den in the basement. Always thought bigger = better with no regard to actual picture quality. Two of them have survived up to this day, they're in the basement covered up and I had to move them down there. Pain in the fucking ass';

'>>10862974
Can I have one? I have a pick-up truck';

'>>10859902
What would putting lightbulbs behind the CRTs do?';

'>>10863371
Shine a light on how retarded anon is?';

'My stepdad had a gigantic one, it was ridiculous. However, it didn't look very good, especially as it got older. It was eventually ruined after his basement flooded and it was a giant pain in the ass to get rid of.';

'>>10863682
Should have just grabbed the circular saw and cut that shit into pieces.';

'>>10859350
parents got one in 2001. I remember it being kickass at first because I was a young idiot that thought bigger screen = better, looking back I wished they'd waited a couple years to get a plasma flat screen instead. It was one of those early "HD capable" televisions that while it could technically support up to 1080i signals, it didn't come with an ATSC tuner, nor did it support VGA or HDMI inputs (latter wasn't invented yet), only via analog component video. Since it was also a 4:3 screen it also had this annoying "feature" where letterboxed HD signals had gray bars on the top and bottom of the screen instead of black, supposedly to prevent burn-in. That garbage made a lot of HD content unwatchable especially if you were watching something with a lot of dark scenes. 480i/p widescreen content had normal black bars, so it was a totally pointless and retarded gimmick.
It also had this utility called "Magic Focus" which was supposed to fix convergence issues automatically, however with age certain chips and electronic components inside the television started to fail so the chromatic aberration you would get after trying to align the picture would be even worse than what you started out with.

pic isn't mine but the RPTV is similar to the one we had';

'>>10863371
it would be extremely brilliant';

'>>10863929
For you.';

'You can think of CRT RPTVs a lot like cameras.
They literally have three lenses.
These lenses matter a lot.
Some of them are made out of plastic.
Some of them are real glass.
The optical qualities can vary widely.';

'Here's a random comparison of some lenses from the video production industry. These are all high quality lenses so the difference is small, but it is there. Then consider the lenses in some RPTVs will be inferior to this.';

'>>10859337
They were definitely a status symbol for a good 5 years or so when they were really expensive. Who cares that they were a little dim it was all about that big screen home theater experience! Super impressive to be the dad who came home with one of those TV's. After awhile people kinda realized they weren't that great and were pretty ugly if you didn't have a dedicated home theater room, people would just put them in normal sized living rooms and they would stick out like a sore thumb.';

'>>10864291
The truth is they're a technology that's not really suited for the common consumer.';

'If you'd like to see some photos of a rear projection televisions working here's a thread
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/dont-dump-your-crt-rptv.695922/page-523?nested_view=1&sortby=oldest';

'>>10864237
Did they really need to use that ugly bitch as a model to compare lenses?';

'>>10864439
only thing wrong with her is the piercing on her cheek. otherwise 7/10';

'>>10864439
I am guessing it is Neal Osemans GF. Just a normal looking woman.';

'>>10864291
if rear projection was "that big screen home theater experience"
what was front projection?';

'>>10859337
Because most normies don't believe Rear-Projection Televisions are CRT. They see one DLP and they think they're all DLP.
I have two Rear Projection Sets. One doesn't work with light guns. The much older one from the 80's does. It just has really really bad viewing angles. Like it only looks good for one person because you have to sit directly in front of it, but fuck it it's awesome.';

'>>10859371
Not much more than any typical CRT. So sick of that anti-video game propaganda from the 80's/90's.';

'>>10859731
Oh shit. That's a legit RCA.';

'>>10864921
>Not much more than any typical CRT.
sauce?';

'>>10859337
honestly rear projection TVs suck and sucked then, the two things they had going for them were that they were less bulky than CRTs and had giant screens';

'>>10863146
You near Georgia?';

'>>10865510
>less bulky than CRTs
They're bulkier in every sense. Are you referring to rear projection LCDs?';

'>>10865590
>They're bulkier in every sense
NTA, but you're retarded. A direct view CRT TV with the same screen size as a rear projection CRT TV is going to be "bulkier in every sense". Unless you're talking about how a real car is "bulkier in every sense" compared to your hot wheels toy?';

'>>10864904
too expensive for normal people';

'>>10865510
Under optimal, and I do mean *very* specific optimal viewing conditions, they can have better color and contrast than a direct view CRT.';

'>>10859337
I remember my older cousin spent a RIDICULOUS amount (around $10 grand AUD) of money on one of these, maybe circa 2006. It might have been 65". Last time I saw it he was playing Grand Theft Auto 5 on his PS3 in 2013/14. He ended up throwing it out even though it still worked. The first TV I ever bought was a 51" Samsung Plasma from Costco in 2013 for cheap, and didn't upgrade to my 55" LG OLED until last year.';

'>>10859337
Retro Rob put up two very good videos about rear projection:

https://youtu.be/TgfR7ul28LY
https://youtu.be/l48vP7qbumw';

'Although I have much nostalgia for them I would advise anyone today thinking of buying a CRT RPTV today to curb their expectations of image quality even after best possible calibration.
Most any random LCD television made in the last ten years is able to achieve a much better image quality.';

'I have seen these monsters for 50-70 USD for sale but it's obvious that the terrible image quality, awful viewing angles, the size and the fact they will die any day, makes them an awful investment';

'Can the guts be taken out and used as a front projector?';

'>>10865590
>Are you referring to rear projection LCDs?
You mean an LCD projector shoved into a smaller already existing RPTV modified case?';

'It would be fun to try to make a video shader that simulates the look.';

'>>10859337
Good thread about the subject:
https://warosu.org/vr/thread/10606280';