'>>3396528
2 is the best in the series';

'>>3396535
wow really? what's the best version do you think?';

'>>3396528
>Is 2 worth playing
I love 2 but it might be a bit grindy in the end game.';

'>>3396538
GBA cuts down on grinding but doesn't look nearly as good. I'd play the SNES version emulated and just speed up to do random battles and grind. It looks way prettier.

II has the best story and is definitely the best in the series, with III as second best.';

'>>3396550
I really don't mind the grind, but thanks for the heads up
I'll definitely give it a go then
What do you think about those retranslations I see around, claiming the made it more accurate? You think I should go for those?';

'If you liked 1, you’ll like 2';

'>>3396582
Probably if you want the story to be more accurate. If you're more interested in gameplay then it's not a big deal. You still get what they are going for even with the poor translation. The story is a great one, even though it's the generic good vs. evil, it is done well.';

'>>3396528
I played 2-5 and even though 2 is the most uninteresting, it's also the only one that I actually managed to complete. Twice even. Idk how.';

'>>3396528
I played 2 then 1 then 3. Do yourself a favor and play the SNES 2007 fan translation. BoF2 was Capcom's first inhouse translation and it was garbage.
The story surprised me a fucking lot. Play with the music on at all times, devs won't let you down.
When you think it's time to make a choice, it's because it is. If you want to get everything in one playthrough, look up a guide when THAT fight happens. Otherwise there's a dungeon that you'll miss out on a powerup if you don't do it then and there, and there's some secrets that are Nintendo power shit.';

'>>3396528
5 is definitely worth a try.
Although it is a divisive game because of how different it is from the other games, I love it.';

'>>3396538
2 had the hottest Nina';

'>>3396986
I've heard this multiple times, and I plan to play it in the future. My backlog continues to grow!';

'>>3396528
isn't this the game with a bunch of ntr scenes, some of them even being mandatory to progress?';

'>>3396535
Damn straight.';

'Deis best girl';

'>>3397355
You misspelled Katt';

'>>3396657
>>3396659
>>3396678
>>3396719
>>3396986
Didn't expect this to still be up but thanks everyone. I decided to go for the retranslated version. Will play it soon.
>>3397001
I love faeries the most uohh
Great official art

Keks aside, I really really hope the recent Capcom survey considers Breath of Fire. Damn I love the series. I know they gave up back then because FF was just the GOAT, but FF is just so-so nowadays and I'd take BOF over Dragon Quest any day. Fuck I wish I still had my PS1 BOF4 copy. Lost it to a fire, along with my other old games';

'>>3396986
>Although it is a divisive game because of how different it is from the other games

because it's the only BoF game with a game over timer and using Dragon mode speeds up that timer';

'3 has some of the best music in a jrpg I've ever heard and the majority of it sounds like the hold music you get while waiting to talk to your healthcare provider
https://youtu.be/8O7OY3M0Ftc?si=s13CsnFxnZu0EeJZ';

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'>>3397054
WTF is wrong with people who like this type of game where there's a bunch of cuck shit? how people justify liking these games lmao';

'>>3402201
He is lying';

'>>3397054
you are thinking of Bahamut Lagoon';

'>>3402201
>>3402288
There's a part where you have to leave the main female character to work as a maid for an old frogman while you do some shit for him. After she finishes cleaning, he asks for a massage. And when she finishes massaging him, he says it's time for her to be massaged. Then the screen fades to black and she screams, implying he's touching her';

'I'm thinking of playing 2 too, but while I hear ryusui's retranslation to be better, how is it when compared to the lore of the entire franchise? Does it take too many liberties such as correcting spell names, item names instead of matching them with the later entries? Maybe liberties with town names or characters? Are there too many pop culture references?
Man I'm so torn which version to play, because what I want out of it is a coherent, accurate story to what the original Japanese version had.';

'>>3396528
Nice OP. Playing through 3 myself atm after picking up a Retroid Pocket. Not played it since it was a kid and never appreciated how broken Peco is. My dumbass simped Garr back then.';

'>>3396535
I disagree, I beat all of them multiple times. It's my least favorite in the series. It casts aside the primary gimmick of BoF, and has only half baked ideas to replace it. The story meanders for about half of the game, forces a lot of increasingly tedious and lengthy back travel, and by the end of it all, you're strong enough to beat the random mobs you encounter, but never in a fun or easy way. So either you're bashing your head against the enemies in the final dungeon, or you're escaping from them.

Biggest sin is that in an rpg about playing a guy who can turn into a dragon, you can barely turn into a dragon at all.';

'>>3402313
The thing you're describing is from 4. I don't recall it going down like you recall, or that the cartoony, silly animal world of BoF has a single rape in it, but who knows.';

'>>3400530
Ahahaha omfg it sounds EXACTLY like that type of hold music, damn you nailed it!';

'>>3396528
I started with the second, toss up on two or three as my favorite. I feel like 3 had a lot more soul and likeable characters.';

'>>3397001
Has the most mature design, she got progressively younger from bof 3 to 5';

'>>3404127';

'>>3404128';

'>>3404130';

'>>3397054
2 is the cuck game where the catgirl leaves to bang some catboy.';

'>>3404135
Assuming catboy is tiga, that is rather impossible as he dies.';

'>>3404143
Your grandfather didn't fuck your grandmother because he died.';

'>>3404146
...I'm assuming you didn't play the game, because there is literally no time for katt to be with tiga because he immediately falls in love with someone else and gets killed for his efforts, all within the same chapter';

'>>3404150
I'm assuming you're a shameless waifufag who cannot handle sexual activity involving the subject of his obsession. Have you blocked out the events of the game? Such a shitty game, too.';

'>>3404151
The only confirmed sexual activity in these games, besides the known parents, is between the ryu and the nina from the first breath of fire.';

'>>3404135
>>3397054
>>3402313
>Cuck scenes in at least TWO games
Shiiiiiit no wonder this thing never became too famous who the fuck wants to be cucked in a game besides other cucks';

'When being a dragon makes you a super saiyan.';

'>>3396528
I don't get why they turned 2 into a mindless grindfest when 1's gameplay was already perfectly fine and dandy';

'I wonder if this was an intentional dune homage.';

'You've already selected your favourite bof character in the official capcom site, right?';

'>>3404404
That's a great picture, thanks anon.';

'>>3404376
They're the same thing essentially. The transformation to a more powerful state. It's beautiful how much it parallels it.';

'>>3404918
i think it was a bit of a quiet capcom homage, because dragon quest and dragon ball were so influential. Even wang-tang (who kinda looks like bof 4 ryu's relative) from powerstone plays on it.';

'>>3396657
Speak for yourself. Love 1, don't care for 2 at all.';

'...so it's okay to lewd Aspara when he's a cute mushroom right?';

'>>3396528
From what i've always been told, 5 and 6 in the series is not worth it. And 3 or 4 is peak of this franchise.';

'You´ve read the breath of fire IV adaptation, right?';

'>>3409026
the bonus 4koma are also pretty funny.';

'Comfiest capcom series.';

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'>>3409420
If I could change one thing in the plot...';

'>>3409423
I made sure to vote for the BOF series in the recent Capcom survey. I hope it amounts to something';

'>>3409497
same here

told them to not port/remake DQ unless they add items that can reduce the D Counter';

'If they were to remake bof, would it be better to do it in 2.5d style (octopath traveller) or full 3d kinda like mon hun stories?';

'>>3410845
2dHD';

'>>3410997
Note sure if capcom even remembers how to do a pure 2d game anymore.';

'I remember playing bof3 and getting to the end and thinking... Thats it? I knew it w as coming as my gene bank was almost full and figured the end of the game would be close, vut it was still disappointing.

Did anyone else feel like the ending was unsatisfying and the world could have gone on f or an entire other game?';

'>>3411285
I can understand thinking the final boss was a pushover in terms of gameplay, and i liked the cast and the world enough that i'd like to see more of it in the epilogue, but the ending resolves all the major story beats.

Defeating the final boss is pretty personal for ryu, rei and garr (which why i picked them), not to mention the people who played bof 1 and 2.';

'>>3396528
every random encounter in that last area in 2 felt like such a slog I still haven't finished it. I was surprised 4 actually showed the dragon gimmick being as overpowered and dangerous. All the other games say it is those things but it just ends up being a fucking lame ass special attack.';

'>>3412180
First game curse I'm afraid. Ryu's dragon form in 1 was so damn amazing that 2 suffered for it. 3's also had an amazing transformation too once you got the right Dragon Genes.';

'>BoF1
>fighting boss
>get his health down
>"Next hit and I win!"
>hit him like 4 more times before he dies

What is the fucking point of health bars if they lie?? I hate this game. It's so awful.';

'>>3412180
You mean 5? Dragon form in 4 is little more than a special attack and a stat boost, given that the in battle sprite is the same for all of them and that there aren't specialized dragons like there were in 3.';

'>>3412409
no, I think he means 4 (the last good BoF) because of dragon mode fucking shit up in cutscenes';

'>>3412456
I mean, the opening of bof 3 is a whole sequence of a puny whelp dragon slaughtering people inside the mines, innocent or otherwise, and the whole argument of the main villain is dragons being too dangerous to be allowed to live. I don't see how that isn't showing dragons being overpowered or dangerous to the world at large. Bof was about a war against dark dragons being world conquerors, so while the main character is rightous there is still the notion that dragons are OP. Bof v goes to the extreme of the dragon form actively killing the player.

If anything bof 2 is the exception that says that you need all the power a dragon can give to even stand a chance against the evils lying in wait.';

'>>3412462
>Bof v goes to the extreme of the dragon form actively killing the player.

and killing the series';

'>>3409380
Thanks for the art dump, BroF

Fuck CRAPCON for shutting the series down.';

'>>3412467
I wouldn't go that far. It sold reasonably well, the problem is that 2000's capcom decided to focus on franchises that sold a million units at minimum (street fighter, monster hunter, resident evil, megaman), leaving everything else out to dry. And even megaman was eventually cut off.

I won't argue that bof6 was embarassment everyone agrees is best left ignored.';

'>A series with enforced cuckoldry dies
Justice was served. And stop bumping this shit, is not like Campcon will fix it.';

'>>3412480
the fuck are you on?';

'Fav Rpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J027mCrotYc';

'>>3412473
If there is one thing bof deserves to be remembered for is it´s art.';

'>>3412512';

'>>3412513';

'>>3412515';

'>>3412516';

'>>3412518';

'>>3412519';

'>>3412521';

'>>3412523';

'>>3412524';

'>>3412525';

'>2024
>countless Street Fighter collections
>still no Breath of Fire collection';

'>>3412527';

'>>3412531';

'>>3412532';

'>>3412528
At least there´s an artbook collection, it's pretty impressive.';

'>>3412534
there's also a few pages in the capcom works artbook.';

'>>3412534
>>3412537
My friend gifted me BoF DQ strategy guide. I don't need a guide, but I still like to watch pics from time to time.';

'You could pick Defense formation and pick Katt as the backline member, press taunt and basically make her the tank of the party.';

'even teppen delivers on the art work';

'>>3412548
whops wrong picture';

'>>3412482
Read: >>3402313 >>3397054 >>3404135
The series has enforced cuckoldry. There's nothing bad when a series like that dies. Go looking for other games instead of fixating on a dead one with cuck content.';

'>>3412552
The fanart disagrees with you.';

'>>3412555
That fanart is wasted in a story that canonically contains cuck content.';

'>>3412574
that's fanart of 3, the game you are shitposting about is 2';

'>>3412574

Not really convincing anyone who actually played. Hell you can play bof and bof 2 on the capcom website right now.';

'Damn this is some elaborate fan fiction.

https://rurounigarrland.itch.io/dragon-war';

'>>3412594
She thinks her fur is enough to hide her sweet pot, doesn't she?';

'What are you getting at?';

'The looping animation in this is the cherry on top the sweet orchestral covers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPNR4D9VJEA';

'Ryu
Loves
Katt!';

'hell of an intro.';

'>>3396538
SNES with the retranslation patch.';

'>>3396528
I’ve heard very polarizing things about dragon quarter. Worth jumping in blind?';

'>>3417934
just be warned it plays nothing like previous BoF games, right down to using Dragon Mode will actively fuck over your current run because it speeds up the game over counter';

'>>3417950
>>3417934
In a way starting with dragon quarter might actually be the best way. You're more likely to accept it without the expectations from the other games, and if you don't like it you can switch to another game to get a different experience.';

'>>3417934
I would recommend ignoring Dragon Quarter's existence altogether, but you seem like you already made up your mind, so godspeed.';

'>>3417934
It's a good game, people didn't like it because you have to restart the game at least once as the enemies become too strong.

>>3412552
The only cuck here is your brain because you cucked his neurons with porn.';

'>>3409423
He got axe'd in the art book or something. Players hated him THAT much.';

'>>3418447
because he got away with EVERYTHING in the main game.

It's like how in the true ending novel of FFXV the crew defeated Bahamut because he is the real evil mastermind behind everything, instead of Ardyn who LITERALLY DID NOTHING WRONG';

'...she's gonna be ravaged by Tiga, isn't she? Why'd she pick him over Ryu? All it took is Ryu losing eh';

'>>3418887
Earliest NTR ever recorded in a video game by the writers';

'>>3418887
>>3418902
>having to samefag to prove a point';

'>>3418902
All that journey, memories, negated by a single loss. How sad

Keks aside, fuck, just got to that *part* in the Cathedral. Goddamit I just lost my Ma a year ago. Fuckkk';

'>>3418902
You are confusing breath of fire ii with live a live.';

'>>3418699
desu killing ardyn at that point was pretty much a mercy kill';

'>>3418887
I'll never cease being disgusted by the kind of complete untermensch that need to self insert into absolutely fucking everything';

'>>3396528
How else are you going to make an informed decision between Katt or Nina?';

'>>3419026
>desu killing ardyn at that point was pretty much a mercy kill

but that still let Bahamut take over everything, in game canon';

'>>3396535
fpbp';

'>You are fighting a girl on the next coliseum fight, how afraid are you?';

'>>3418887
>I promise I'd stay with him through the assault on the Cathedral. That's all.';

'>>3420128
I feel like there's a reference here I'm not getting.';

'>>3420157
it's an edit of a Atelier Ryza NTR doujin

basically it's that fuck who thinks BoF2 is a "cuck game" shitposting';

'>>3396528
Steam release when?';

'>>3417740
Does Katt have a clit?';

'>>3420204
BoF can barely get a reference as a sidenote in other capcom games.';

'>>3420334
apparently SF6 has a lot of BoF references, including Fou-Lu being the ultimate optional boss in the open world thing';

'>>3420344
No one cares about Street Fighter anymore, I didn't even know there was even a 6 one.';

'>>3420334
Well, fou-lo is a boss in street fighter 6 world tour, but it doesn't even qualify as a cameo.

https://youtu.be/okaC0ZuGn0M?si=WtRWtMs-G-HZU0mH';

'>>3420301';

'>>3420374
Well, no definitive vulva.';

'>>3420094
My dick is scared stiff';

'>>3396528
Breath of Fire 5 is one of my favorite "one playthrough" games. It's so stressful I never want to replay it but everything that game set out to do, it did so perfectly. The gameplay and story were in perfect harmony with the fact that you're grasping for survival is perfectly reflected in the gameplay from the D-meter to starting fights with traps. Other JRPGs have a dire event and then you fuck off for 80 hours doing side quests. You can't do that in BoF5.

If it's too hard, there's an easy method of grinding bonus exp so you can restart with a bunch of levels and not have to struggle as much. The game also gets much easier once you get your full party.

Also turning into a dragon probably feels more powerful in this than any game of the series. You can completely skip bossfights with it and are encouraged to.';

'>>3418887
I really hate games where your female party members get fucked and cummed inside while the main character stays as a virgin thorough the entire game. Even if those female characters are not in an actual relationship with the mc, it still feels cuckish as fuck specially knowing the mc is the most important character in the story (how the fuck does he gets his women stolen?). That's why I will not play this shit series after reading a lot about it';

'>>3421923
dude, this is like the 6th time you made this shitpost in this thread';

'>>3396535
Absolute dogshit take.';

'So i've been playing bof 4 on an emulator, 20+ hours so far. The ff7 influences are obvious, but if anything it looks prettier. The plot is interesting, the dragons are spectacular and the characters are likeable, although the towns are underdeveloped (with one or two memorable exceptions). Someone on the developing team clearly thought that not being able to see where you are or where you are going because the buildings block your view is "fun", because you are forced to play frustrating minigames that exploit this fact, while you can easily miss out on optional but more enjoyable minigames like fishing or faery hunting. Fou-lou's section being so short but straight to the point only highlight how the time wasted rotating the camera or going slowly through the world map could have easily been used to delve deeper in the events in the backstory. The puzzle sections are a fair challenge, provided that you don't have to deal with random encounters while solving them.

The battle system is great, having a back row, being able to pick the turn order and having combos makes everyone usable, and learning moves by guarding is logical. The menu and control layout needed some work though, it´s way to fiddly to use quickly and there´s too few hints on which moves can be learned (if it showed on the enemy information screen after they were defeated it would be great). The battle animations are fantastic, although some moves are so pointlessly slow that you want to avoid them; even the dragon transformation could do without the looped move. I would also like to have some more moves early game to try out combos, you end up defaulting to the same move 90% of time.';

'>>3404128
>>3404130
>>3404132
I like how her story is literally her being ostracized and hated for being a half breed mutant because Nina1 couldn't get enough of Ryu1's Dragon Cock.';

'>>3423166

There is a major plot hole i don´t recall anyone discussing. At the end of chapter 1, why the hell would the empire EVER send the party back to the alliance? The party not only figured out that the empire is holding the heir to the wyndia crown while the rest of the world thinks she is missing, but it´s itself composed of the other heir to the wyndia crown, the chieftain of the woren tribe and the other half of the dragon they are desperately trying to kill! And it´s not like they wouldn´t recognize the latter given that one of the officers just recognized ryu was a dragon and they know fou-lou's other half is around somewhere...

And the sad thing about the plot hole was that it was very easy to fix, all they had to do was change up the events such that they are smuggled into the empire directly by marlok, get spotted by yuna and only THEN go to the tower and use the transportation device to narrowly escape being captured by the empire. The rest of the game would proceed the same, with cray being detained for invading the empire (thus potentially breaking the truce) as well as endangering the wyndian princess ';

'>Best story
2
>best combat
4
>best overall journey
3
>hottest nina
5
>hottest Deis
4';

'Woah, I think I finished BoF2';

'>W-what the!? Explain yourself right this instant, Ryu!';

'>>3423325
What's going on here?';

'Well, I finished it. Man, I'm damn glad I did. Such a good improvement storywise compared to BOF1. The fucking heavy moments were real, real good. Man, what a journey.

I wonder what will happen though if I didn't have the flying town to block the entrance at the very end? And what happened with my bombastic sister?';

'>>3423440
She can take care of herself, she's a big girl now.';

'>>3423450
She deserves nakadashi correction from her big brother for all the brattiness she put us through';

'>>3423440
worst part? frog castle, that fucking music, holy shit napalm that place.';

'>>3423440
>I wonder what will happen though if I didn't have the flying town to block the entrance at the very end?

legitimate answer
Ryu transforms into a dragon and takes his mom's place';

'>>3423818
Hopefully he has the foresight to impregnate a surface girl before he does that so that the dragon clan powers aren't out of reach when the demons start coming back.';

'Why you keep bumping this dead thread for a cuck game?';

'>>3424019
>cuck game

lol';

'>>3424019
>t. Tiga';

'>>3396528
>How about 5?
Bad Breath of Fire game, but great game.';

'>>3424164
this but the exact opposite thoughbeit
interesting story and artistic direction for the serie, dreadfully shit game in a vacuum';

'>>3423440
>Such a good improvement storywise compared to BOF1.
Too bad it's worse in pretty much every other regard.';

'>>3424223';

'>>3424237
Cause he's right?';

'>>3424237
The combat balancing is worse. The fusion system sucks. The town building can screw you out of the some of the best items in the game if you don't use a guide. The encounter rate and grind factor are some of the worst you'll encounter in an SNES JRPG.

I guarantee you most of the people who enjoy BoF2 either fast-forwarded through all the gameplay with an emulator and/or played the GBA port, which doubles experience and triple the Zenny you get from combat. There's no way someone can unironically praise the original that much.';

'>>3424273
Not everyone is a zoomer like you
I didn't use any guides, like always. I got shitty townspeople (didnt even know you can cook until I started reading tvtropes after finishing the game; hell I didn't even know Deis is in this game), and by the time I got to the final battle, all my fusions are gone (because of that Infinity scene and I didn't want to go out again). With proper use of items though, I got by. Like a fuckton of Roasts that I've been saving since the start, and Vitamin spam.
Granted, yeah, the last dungeon was quite punishing, but I've played worse, and it all made up for it by how the story ramped up at the final act.
You don't always need the best to win. Hell, it feels great if you win anyway with what's considered suboptimal. Fucking finished anyway with Spar, Lin, and Nina.
Still, I getcha. It just won't pass with the typical players nowadays.';

'>>3423174
Which one would you recommend to someone that hasn't played any of them? I always had my eyes on 4 because it looks gorgeous, but it seems like 2 and 3 are better story wise.';

'>>3424863
I'd recomend 3 as the most beguinner friendly. Not too difficult without being braindead easy, loads of content, well paced, biggest flaw is a mistranslation that misleads the player while going through the desert. 1 by comparison is a bit barebones, 2 is more punishing and 4 needs the player to go out of their own way to find the best stuff.';

'>>3425191
I'd also recommend not trying to minmax it either. BoF3 has a system called the "master system" where you can pick a master to enhance/change stat gains and gain new abilities.';

'>>3425191
Sounds good, gonna start it after I'm done with Valkyrie Profile.';

'>>3421923
Mental illness';

'What's this unholy fusion of breath of fire 3, 4 and smt IV?';

'>>3427970
You should see "breath of thunder"';

'Dragon Quarter is the only non-cuck game in the series and also the only good one. This makes the chuddies seethe.';

'>>3427997
That looks more like breath of fire x pokemon let´s go.

At least the tears of magic kickstarter actually hired the same soundrack composer.

https://twitter.com/GoodOldPixel/status/1709929379390972069';

'>>3428031
of course the dumbass that is spamming "THIS IS A KEK SERIES" would have garbage tastes';

'Why does the fandom want him to pounce the bunny so much?';

'How well did you raise your fairies, anons?';

'>>3412548
>>3412545
>>3412506
>>3404128
Ok I need to know, is Katt/Lin bottomless?';

'>>3432782
She's a free spirit. Certified nopan.';

'undefined';

'>>3423168
That was the stupidest subplot I think.

>Oh no, this one princess of ours got the super recessive dragon gene from the one time an anicent queen of ours fucked the Dragon clan hero.
>Instead of celebrating her powers of being a chicken dragon demigod and making the most use out of it, lets ostracize and exile her';

'>>3423166
>>3423172
Getting close to the final battle now. It's ironic to think that a game about lack of balance and incompleteness arguably has those exact weak points in the world building and progression...

They come up with a very interesting world with centuries of rich history and then skim over it, even when it would matter to the plot or the characters. We are introduced to an alliance and an empire who are currently in a truce after a bloody war, but we are not told why the war started or what each side is defending. Even when ursula comes in and you have both sides in the party there isn´t a single argument about either side's actions. The endless were summoned because the people needed help against the chaos of the world around it (like fou-lu ending war in the western continent by forming his empire) yet are also blamed for the changing nature? What did fou-lu plan to do once he become complete before humanity in general brutally changed his mind (if it simply was to rule forever, he wouldn't have needed to go into stasis)? Was the eldian kings' decision to arrest cray influenced by elina falling in love with him instead of the unseen eldian prince she was supposed to marry? Not that we were ever shown how both of them met in the first place.

So many more questions that should have been answered instead of just mentioned, because the scenes that ARE shown in the game (kaiser dragon, fou-lu arriving at the capital, elina´s fate...) are very well executed and make an impact even without the proper context. Every detail adds up to the experience, like how the village of chek changing before and after captain rasso got there, the way the civilians describe fleeing the capital, how the organs inside the astana facility look at the player characters as they move...

As for characters themselves, other than ryu, nina and ershwin all of them needed more backstory. I like scias a lot but there´s nothing more to him than being a drunk mercenary dog.';

'>>3434943
Given it resulted in their wings and powers eventually disappearing they may have had a point.';

'>>3429572
Ironic, coming from the actual cuckslop enjoyer.';

'>>3435082
As for progression, It´s like the game was designed either for speedrunners who want shortcuts and minimal backtracking or completionists who want to be able to find lots of stuff hidden away, and nothing in between. It's too easy for a casual player to miss out when like 60-80% of the game content is hidden.

Like seriously, officially introducing fishing only when you are 2/3rds into the game, when you can start right at the beginning? Locking all but two fishing rods and most lures behind fishing points and catches? Not explaining how the fish radar works? They almost ruin the whole experience of what it's otherwise a very deep minigame.

The techniques you can learn from enemies are also very limited until you are halfway through the game, most of them are status moves that are pointless on random encounters or ineffective on bosses, or just outright useless. Most useful moves are locked out behind masters with difficult requirements for when they are met and that can´t be revisited until you reach a certain point, it's too unbalanced.

And why is finding the dragons around the world optional when you've established that ryu needs their help to even stand a chance? You've bothered to put a spectacular scene of the party encountering the grass dragon in opening but then make it an underwhelming optional overworld encounter in the game itself, after the mud and wind dragons had really cool cutscenes. They also suddenly unlock new dragon forms with dragon crystals that don't really make sense in the backstory, when they could have been easily given as you meet more dragons. Not having some endless on fou-lu's side (justifying his serpent form) was also a missed opportunity.

Maybe i'm sounding a little too critical here, but it's because the combat really starts to shine when you've got more options to combo, finding the dragons is a difficult but fair challenge, their special moves look really cool. The game is excellent when it wants to be.';

'>>3396528
>>3396535
>>3396538
>>3396550
>>3397013
I honestly have NO IDEA what these fucking retards are smoking. I just finished 2, and it's garbage. Both the original and the Maeson version.

I love 3 and 4, but holy shit 2 sucks ass. The combat is pretty mindlessly repetitive. I never had to use any strategy in the whole game. The encounter rate is very annoying, even after reducing it. The story is trash, I don't get how anyone can praise it let alone claim its the best. Evil demon guy is taking over, you're the chosen dragon child. That's it. The parts where they force you to use other characters really suck. The monkey sucks. The dog sucks. Nina is cool but they force you to solo an area with her and you'll have to grind for hours because she can't take more than 2 hits. Map exploration is kind of annoying and the first half of the game has a retarded amount of back tracking. They make you walk back to the first 2 towns like 30 fucking times.';

'>>3402201
You're retarded.
>>3404135
You get nina, dumb ass
>>3402313
That's a joke you fucking moron. And a girl being groped by a creep is not getting cucked.
>>3404334
There is exactly zero.
>>3412480
>>3412552
It doesn't though.';

'>>3418887
>>3418902
>>3420094
>>3420128
>>3421923
>>3424019
>>3428031
>>3432782
>>3432851
>>3434000
Kill yourself to Auth istic furry spammer. You're not funny, you're not clever, you're not persuasive, you're just an annoying faggot.';

'>>3424863
2 is total shit. 3 and 4 are way better, ESPECIALLY story';

'>>3435385
>I never had to use any strategy in the whole game
Odd, I replayed 4 for like the 5th time, trying to finally finish it and I felt the same thing was the case, except for one boss that put some pressure on my party';

'>>3435422
>female love interest character abandons the main character for another after he gets emasculated in combat
>former love interest consummates her new relationship with a different male characters and only rejoins the player party when her lover dies
NTR cuckfest. You literally can't argue against this without being delusional.';

'>>3435492
Your only love interest is nina, who you keep the whole game. Fucking retard';

'>>3396528
Why does everyone hate on 5's dragon system when 2's is infinitely worst?';

'>>3435839
Is there any case for the hero getting some action from the sexy snake wizard?';

'>>3436154
Nina is cannon in all of them, and it's outright impossible in 3 (she dies alongside myria) and 4 (she's stuck inside an armor).';

'>>3435839
She gets massaged and, implied, even fucked in BoF4 (this is completely not skippable). She can sell herself for money and let an old man touch all her body in BoF2. How the fuck saying Nina is the only and real love interest defeats the NTR/Cuck shit allegations?';

'>You now realize she was just using you and Rand all along to get back to her village.';

'>>3436629
>and, implied, even fucked

The allegations are proven false when they based on events that aren't even implied.

Next you're gonna tell me this event implies bof 3 is a cuckqueen that watched deis getting on with ryu.

>>3411285
I don't think there's a bof game with a good post game, at best they put the player right before the final boss so they can finish the sidequests.';

'>>3435839
Completely wrong.';

'>>3436686
>I don't think there's a bof game with a good post game
That's because the game you seethe so hard about is a game you haven't actually played for any significant amount of time, namely Dragon Quarter with an excellent post-game consisting of a 50-floor dungeon and alternate, more challenging routes in NG+.';

'>>3436686
>The allegations are proven false when they based on events that aren't even implied
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR-u-yp02rc&t=11022s
>she never talks about this ever again after the whole sequence ends';

'>>3437104
Marlok tries to massage her, she yelps at the touch and bolts off to the warf. That's literally it, otherwise marlok would be waiting at his house until you finished the job.';

'>>3436655
Shut the fuck up furrfag nobody fucking cares';

'>>3436688
Completely correct
Its not a harem anime,';

'>>3437653
Katt is not furry';

'>>3437104
What the fuck? I thought people saying this was a cuck/NTR game were just shitposting. But this is a literal cuck scene. The girl getting plowed while the cuckold protagonist wageslaves in a harbor. HOW people can defend this unless they're cuck themselves?';

'>>3437666
Stop samefagging you dumb nigger. It's a nothing but a joke scene about a perverted old man like master roshi getting handsy, kill yourself.';

'This waifufaggot is getting severely triggered by canon in-game content. He's in denial. BoF2 is a blatant NTR cuck game.';

'Amazing how terrible capcom discussion consistently is.';

'>>3437900
There's always a specific autist.';

'>>3437878
In previous replies people said the NTR scene didn't exist. Now the switch has changed to "it was just a joke"... Fucking grim. You seriously don't find the scene disgusting?';

'>>3437894
You're the waifu fag who is triggered because your furrfag waifu isn't the canon love interest. Fuck off you spastic shit skin.';

'>>3437965
Its a cliche master roshi joke. Not cuck shit. Kill yourself samefag';

'>>3437977
What are you talking about? Master Roshi never gave a "massage" to any girl. He always got his ass kicked. That's why it was funny. Meanwhile here is implied an old guy plowed the main heroine AFTER she gave him a fucking massage. Is disgusting and makes the MC a cuck. How is any of that funny to you?';

'>>3437983
Masyer roshi gropes multiple women. And what that scene was. Grope, "EEEEEEK!" And that's all
You're a retarded furrfag';

'NTR of Fire lmao';

'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk';

'This is the game for us, KEKbros.';

'This is not NTR. Just normal cuckoldry.';

'>>3435492
>love interest
Isn't Katt underage? I played the Japanese dub and she reads as retarded as well. Imagine wanting to fuck a retarded underage girl';

'>>3437894
Final Fantasy fan here looking at playing through bof series. Even I can tell it's just one retard spamming the thread with an obsession.';

'>>3438953
The ones getting triggered are the people denying BoF is a cuck game, though. It's already been proven above that it has canonical cuck content.
>Final Fantasy fan
Lol, sure. There's nobody more jealous with their waifus than FF fanbase. They would never tolerate this like Capcom fans do.';

'>>3438953
>lookijng at playing through the bof series
My nigger, you've read the room completely wrong. It is, objectively, some morons denying something that canonically happens in the games. There used to be a schizo who was obsessed with that particular female character, and it assuredly is him in denial about her getting dicked in the game by anyone buy his "self-insert." Don't embarrass yourself, FF fan.';

'>>3438953
>Final Fantasy fan here
Ah yes, talking about cuck jrpgs...';

'>>3439083
What girl are you talking about? You seem to be confusing the main heroine with the furry girl.';

'>>3439106
Your delusions are showing again. BoF2 has multiple love interests, and one of these girls get canonically dicked by a tiger boy who beats your ass for her. Cucked and NTR'd. Perhaps you should play the game before posting out of anger.';

'>>3439111
Prove that she's a love interest and not just a party member.';

'>>3439120
Play the game. BoF2 has a Tifa/Aerith situation to a lesser degree in the fandom. Every BoF source will refer to her a romantic interest, so feel free to look it up since you haven't played the game. Cuckshit.';

'>>3439097
My favorites are IV and V. But glad to see you confirming your schizo delusions with familiar material.';

'>>3439125
>she's my girlfriend because she talked to me once';

'>>3439129
>burying his head in the sand
You're just going to have to accept that BoF2 is cuckshit, objectively. Canonically. Now and always.';

'>>3439131
So you got attached to some random girl and she got along with some other guy and now you're heartbroken forever?';

'>>3439111
NTA, but I'm saying the furry girl is not the main heroine. She is not that important. Why be mad if the main heroine is good?';

'>>3439152
>>3439132
>one of the love interests NTRs and cucks the protagonist
>NO IT'S NOT A KEK GAME IT DOESN'T MATTER
Enter objective reality, fellas. Your anger is unnecessary. Acceptance should be the next step.';

'>>3439223
Who gets angry over some random girl?';

'>>3439230
You mean one of the game's two love interests, who canonically gets dicked by a different character who beats your ass for that right. You're mad. You've been spending all thread denying this. For a month.';

'>>3439236
You seriously think you've only been talking to just one person for a month? I skimmed the thread and aside from some anons being horny for the cat I haven't seen anything that says that she and the mc have anything special, so unless you've got any proof then you just cucked yourself in your own head.';

'>>3439264
the main girl cucks the MC too';

'>>3439264
>You seriously think you've only been talking to just one person for a month?
Do you? That's what you fags have been throwing the way of the realists as well, lmao. Why does objective information regarding a 30 year old video game trigger you? Just accept it and move on. This whole thread is just denial.';

'Man, this just destroys me with frustration, as the mc born with dragon blood flowing in my veins I would literally burn that woren village to the ground and take the girl for myself.';

'>>3439277
proof?
>>3439281
>just accept it without proof
nah';

'>>3439286
What the FUCK are you talking about? It's a forced part of the main story. Play the game.
>nuh-uh
Retard. Stay mad about a game you haven't played, then, LOL.';

'less attention to the bugman and more to Momo';

'>>3439296
more bunny on bunny day please';

'Human nose Momo. Bun nose Momo It's all goodo';

'>>3439284
That's what the MC would have done if he had balls. But since he's a cuck he stays there working while his whore get's touched by an old man.';

'Speaking of shit opinions, you know who else had them? The brood elder for turning away this cutie';

'>>3439303
What about book nose Momo?';

'I loved 3 in spite of the sushi fetch quest, still want to play 2 but I got about 3/4 of the way through 4 and just gave up after nina's sister reveal, didn't care to find out the rest of the plot the spritework is phenomenal but everything else felt weaker to me than 3. Dragon Quarter is alright but it's kind of its own thing';

'>>3439111
No, nina is the only love interest, and you get her, exclusively. Period. Get over it you fucking moron.';

'>>3439344
1 and 2 both suck';

'>>3439363
You're delusional. Lin, or Katt, has always been one of two love interests in BoF2. Just because you dislike that fact doesn't make it not true. Here's another fact for you: Katt bangs the tigerboy after he beats Ryu's ass for the right to pound her pussy, making Breath of Fire 2 a cuckold game. This is an indisputable, undeniable fact. BoF2 itself confirms this, as does every single external BoF2 source. You'll have to live with it. Cuck game.';

'>>3439395
>Lin
A character from Dragon Quarter? You may really want those meds.';

'>>3439398
Holy newfag.';

'>>3439333
Of course';

'>>3439409
Excellent.';

'>>3409380
BoF 3 was definitely favorite, cause it did nail that feel of a group going on an adventure and getting into random misadventures
Character/story wise BoF 2 was probably my favorite.
I have BoF 4, but got the brutal ending spoiled for me so I lost all motivation to keep playing.';

'undefined';

'>>3439286
>proof?
>>3437104
The MC gets cucked of the main girl too.';

'>>3439400
>Called out and tries to deflect
Nah.';

'>>3440155
Katt is a localization name, cuckoldry enjoyer.';

'>>3435101
says the guy who thinks DQ is good and is spouting delusions and falsehoods about BoF2';

'>>3440412
Katt is one of two canon love interests in BoF2. She gets dicked down by a different main character and only returns to your party when the dick-downer dies, making it an NTR cuck game. The delusion here is yours.';

'>>3440540
She's not though. There is zero romance.
Kill yourself already you annoying tranny';

'>>3439395
Shes not an option and ryu never says anything nice about her, because ryu isn't a furrfaggot like you. Ryus only interest is nina';

'>>3435106
Finished the game and did some post game. Fou-lu's castle is really something special, and so is he. The game really tries to push you in one direction, but still made a compelling case for choosing the antagonist´s side. I don´t get why the astral dragon we face in the final battle is so different from the one in the cutscenes, and I would rather leave the tyrant dragon for last, but it was still a fair challenge at level 40, so it would have been fairly difficult at the level 30 you'd have if you speedrun through the game. Beating the rider and trean monsters are also a good challenge for battle setup, but also highlights how some moves are far more overpowered than others. (ershin stand out + resist, putting a character in a backrow after using focus, war shout, last resort, tiger fist, super combo, shadowwalk, etc). There was some margin to make tougher battles, and maybe allowing enemies to make combos of their own.';

'>>3440787
What really bothered me was the resolution in ryu´s ending, when did the game ever show that the endless needed to be cast out? Most of the problems in the game were caused by humans, the only problems the endless cause were easily dealt with and if anything the idea that mortals are hopelessly bond to the endless' whims was just proven wrong when they successfully convinced ryu to beat his other half for their sake. The one endless that wanted to be casted out and return home decided to stay anyway while the rest of the endless had already accepted their role in the world, so what was the reasoning besides the usual jrpg troupe of humans rejecting being ruled by gods? The game can´t tell me this was fou-lu´s idea all along when it showed that fou-lu would wipe humanity had he won. And it makes me think that elina would have been restored to her former body had they not killed her with the dragon slayer. The ending might have made some sense had infini removed all magic/hex from the world, as that would at least put a stop to the carronade and prevented yuna´s plan of summoning new endless, but no. And someone please hunt him down and kill him before he makes everything worse.

Overall, i have mixed feelings about the game, it feels less polished than bof 3 even though it´s a sequel because the gameplay mechanics that were brought over were mostly made worse for no reason while the innovations work very well. I would put them both on the same level, as 4 has higher high points than 3, but the low points are also lower. Both are very enjoyable and charming.';

'>>3396528
I've heard of Breath of Fire. I'm certain it's quite a reputable game. Have you heard of Grandia for the Ps1? You might like it! It's a great game that I never got to complete unfortunately. Right now I'm playing Secret of Evermore on the SNES App. I just got through the rat boss who is regarded as one of the toughest bosses in the game. I'd say second toughest from the last boss.';

'>>3440804
I remember this being my first game bought with my parents allowance, being a spiritual successor of Secret of Mana it didn't live up to my expectations as a kid, besides the combat it's setting was way too different unlike the bright and cartoony setting of SoM, it was SoM mixed with Chrono trigger like time traveling, if I wanted time traveling I would had gotten that game instead. Alchemy was hit and miss too, you had to have foreknowledge was each reagent was used for, and back in the 90s it was near impossible to know.';

'>>3440711
>nina
That one also cucks the MC.';

'>>3441639
yo thats crazy';

'undefined';

'>>3404151
You are mentally unwell';

'>>3440804
Man I love that game but it has a little bit too much grinding for its own good
Also every time I dread doing the greek market thing.';

'best design.';

'>>3446755
Cuck';

'I wake up thankful everyday I was not born a chink
>>3446755
True';

'Why no anime?';

'>>3450144
It never got Street Fighter big.';

'>>3450520
Neither did power stone, yet it got a pretty good adaptation.';

'>>3440710
>>3440711
Play the game.';

'>>3450563
>the cuckoldry is real
OH NONONONONONO';

'>>3450561
Then it is a mystery.';

'undefined';

'>>3452847
>burns all her MP on a simple trick';

'About to start playing 4, any tips before I go in?';

'>>3453266
You can learn some moves from the enemy or from ryu's dragon forms by guarding. You'll know if you can learn a certain move if it's name is written in blue ONLY while you are guarding (so having a party member always defend might be worth it), although sometimes it's hinted in the enemy info screen.

You'll meet masters that teach you moves throughout the story, try to fulfill their requirements as much as possible because you'll probably only meet them again after you are halfway through the game, and they have some very useful moves.';

'undefined';

'>>3453266
>any tips before I go in?
Yes
NTR is unavoidable';

'>forced cuckshit NTR in every game except 5
>fans hate 5
Can't make this shit up.';

'why are (You) like this?';

'>>3457581
But I am not a sexy big titty bunn?';

'undefined';

'You could hang it on the wall.';

'>>3461556
Surprisingly good work, I wonder how long it took.';

'>>3402132
Perfect slaves.';

'Most appropriate team vs myria, given what she has done to them. For some reason when I used weretiger with rei he literally never hit anyone other than myria even though he was berserk and i didn't use the influence tech, i wonder if there is some hidden flag that made him be accurate after the final conversation before taking on the final boss.';

'undefined';

'>>3430566
It's funny because they share no dialogue that isn't antagonistic to each other, and the universal agreement in every for fans of the series is "oh yeah they gonna fug BAD". They're My First Tsundere Relationship.';

'>>3473681
I think Momo's just the kind of character that people want to watch getting some.';

'>>3424442
Sounds like you just have incredibly low standards from decades of playing whatever PS1 and PS2 JRPGs you could scrounge up the allowance for.';

'>>3474059
You want to see her get some XXX and XXXX? I mean, I get it, but... what is XXX and XXXX?';