'the demon realm invasion and some of the custom quest lines are p fun, and you can get into some really busted wuxia bullshit builds with some of the heroes
haven't played in a while, but the idea of a m&blike with a much clearer storyline and endgame crisis / JRPG boss is pretty cool';

'>>1700458
Definitely not a strategy game imo but whatever
For some reason I can't bring myself to play a third playthrough and maybe finish it properly. Also, need more options in the romance sim part.';

'>>1700458
All I think about every time I see this game is Sarah Salazar.';

'Not big on diablo combat but the rest sounds great';

'>>1700461
I got the True End for Spiritmancer my first time playing it, I was pleasntly surprised at how invested I was in the class storyline';

'>>1700458
How bad is the translation. And can you make money trading?';

'>mobile game
>diablo combat
miss me with that shit';

'>>1700729
>How bad is the translation.
Can't remember being bad at all, but haven't played that deep
>And can you make money trading?
The normal buying X and selling it 6 million miles away. It's whatever';

'It's fucking terrible. Last time I played they had beards that didn't even fit the character portraits, awful controls, a broken translation and incomplete player classes.';

'>>1700458
I played it back in 2022 and it was without exaggeration one of the worst games I've played in recent memory. Like a pre-alpha early access game that they sold as a full release.';

'>>1700792
>Last time I played they had beards that didn't even fit the character portraits
Impressive.';

'>>1700458
>Chinese mobile scamware
no thank you!';

'>>1700792
>>1700798
I played it and it just looked like another mid game, definitely don't remember it being that bad, key phrase "don't remember"';

'>>1701111
It's a typical Chinese indie release in that they launch it way too early but they keep working on it over time and adding content/DLC. So if you played it late 2021/early 2022 it would've been completely awful but if you play it today it's just mid.

See also games like Amazing Cultivation Simulator, Dyson Sphere Program, Immortal Life, The Lost Village, The Leviathan Fantasy, The Matchless Kungfu, etc. Some of those actually ended up being good in a janky way, but they were all unfinished garbage at launch.';

'>>1700458
For a 12$ game it's pretty alright.
Not a big fan of the main story, but fucking around and training an army was pretty fun.
The class synergies are a bit shit though and didn't find my multi-class run as a nameless particularly fun or satisfying.';

'>>1700458
Lol';

'why do asians constantly think games that arent rts are rts on here?';

'>>1701352
it has tons of similar elements to mount and blade';

'>>1704548
why do asians constantly think games that arent rts are rts on here?';

'>>1704548
Not a strategy game. Neither is Valkyrie fucking chronicles (this one is the worst to see on vst)';

'>>1704827
>Not a strategy game
>>>739
>/vst/ is a place to discuss all types of strategy video games, including both turn-based and real-time strategy, turn-based and real-time tactics, single-player and multi-player (including MOBAs). All platforms are welcome.
Stop being retarded, it's a map painter with actual gameplay for battles instead of auto-resolve only like Mount and Blade or Starsector. If those games don't belong on /vst/ then neither does any Paradox shit since those have even less pseudo-RTS gameplay

Spiritmancer especially plays like a WC3 archmage with a mix of summoned units, AoE damage, and a teleport ability. A lot of followers are built like WC3 custom game heroes, I wouldn't be surprised if that's a direct inspiration given how popular shit like Enfo's or Dota were as WC3 mods with chinks';

'Damn, 20 posts in and no screenshot of actual gameplay? This chinkshit must really suck';

'>>1705521
I enjoy the tavern brawling minigame a lot, it's like if getting into bar fights in Mount and Blade actually had stakes and gameplay, rather than some random swadian peasant deciding it's a good idea to get drunk and try to 1v1 the leader of a continent-conquering army.
Dungeons where you can only bring a couple party members are also way less frustrating than the Mount and Blade equivalent where you're assaulting a camp or something and forced to leave most of your army at home. I almost always avoid those in M&B because I find them tedious, here I actually seek out dungeons since fighting with your heroes is pretty fun and the rewards from boss fights are good.';

'>>1700458
>>1700461
>>1700668
Let me tell you right now, if you are paid shills, it's kinda working.';

'Is this a pron game?';

'>>1705758
No';

'>>1705521
Is not a strategy game, and I actually like the game';

'>>1701055
>checked just now
>they still have them';

'This looks even worse than I remembered.';

'>>1705926
His eyes are squinted like how a suspicious person would squint his eyes.
The fact that his beard doesn't fit is a dead giveaway that it's fake!
Therefore I conclude that he's an Ifrit spy!
Or a pervert.';

'>>1705927
looks like when they cry sprites. sovl.';

'>>1705995
>Sovl
In a sense that it reminds me of New Grounds Flash games.';

'Does it matter if i never play the story mode, sandbox seems more fun';

'>>1705353
>instead of auto-resolve only like Mount and Blade or Starsector';

'>>1705353
>Starsector
>Auto-resolve
Wut? Nigga you never played Starsector or even worse you just being disengaging your fleet and claim to have played it.';

'>>1705926
Yeah the game is clearly made with a basement budget, kinda like most of 80s game
So you gotta wait for game2';

'>>1700458
i read 5 anos de salazar';

'>>1708213
Ah yes, the famous sequel to Marquez's classic, set in Portugal.';

'>>1708213
For me? It's sands of Salazar. I always read it like that';

'>>1708273
I've only just realized it's actually not Salazar. I've known of the game for years and tried it a few times along its development.';

'>>1708300
See anon this is why English should of kept the accent letters, so latinos don't have to suffer these double vowels and extension lines.';

'>>1708133
>>instead of auto-resolve only like Mount and Blade or Starsector
That sentence is saying it's LIKE mount and blade and star-sector, as opposed to games with autoresolve-only which is 90% of the shit on this board's catalog. You don't control your armies in battle in Crusader Kings or Europa Universalis or Victoria or even Stellaris. It's chink mount and blade. The chink name is literally "Tribe and Scimitar" as a direct reference to Mount and Blade.';

'>>1705926';

'>>1708525
Nigga, use commas.';

'Any recommended mods for the game?';

'>>1710128
The one that increases hero max level from 20 to 40 is the most popular. You can increase the level cap during normal gameplay by stacking the NG+ Difficulty modifier but that requires a bunch of playthroughs since it's +2 per iirc';

'>>1710228
The game is already stupidly easy even on hard I can’t imagine any fun being level 40 with a full talent tree and all the trainer skills.';

'>>1708020
Isn’t the condition to unlock sandbox mode to complete the story first?';

'>>1710688
no';

'>>1710128
Having taken a look at the official workshop, we really take western modders for granted.';

'Whats the point in adding big rocks/trees in the middle of the battlefield? High tier units get stuck and bosses as well in dungeons.';

'>>1711294
I would say western strategy modders, are specifically very abundant.
I'm aware that sandboxes and third person RPGs get a lot of mods too, but it's usually reserved for most popular games and franchises. For example I may curse each time the new paradox launcher "forgets" to launch the mods for those few months when it did that, but I still remember how easier it is than modding most other games, to the point that the game is made in such a way that you can just open a file and edit, and for downloaded/complete mods you have a specific area to put them to not wreck your game, and I compare it to how much I needed to arse to mod Spore back in the day, or the Fifas for that matter. And how even the most mod unfriendly games still get trainers and mods like KOEI ones.
Trying tioi mod any modern FPS or gacha game, compared to the older Valve and Unreal ones, and I don't even know what compare the Gacha ones to, maybe Jrpgs? In any case everything seems so much harder now, even though there are so many better and wider available tools and even sometimes guides.';

'>>1711294
>modders
>taken for granted
Modders can fuck off.
The dick sucking people who depend on them can fuck off too.
It's fucking uncanny how that ecosystem has developed and functions. Drives the point home that vidya enjoyers are mouthbreathers, fucking different species altogether even.';

'>make every faction ruled and majority male
>except the Dakhn that are hot harem babes
Oh gee I wonder what 99% of the player base would pick.';

'>>1705707
>days before Fadia gives birth';

'>>1713435
Do kids become sort of generals/heroes?';

'>>1713435
>>1713483
P.s.
Also weak pull-out game, man.';

'>>1713484
Probably leg-locked. Poor bastard.';

'>>1713626
How horrifying.';

'>>1710228
I wouldn’t recommend this mod, every late game enemy would up with 40k hp, insane regeneration and normal battles would take 15 min longer.';

'>>1710128
Expanded Field View
Infinite Durability
Whatever big tits mod catches your fancy.';

'Can I fap to it?';

'>>1716755
Yes, enough skimpy women and custom mods.';

'Should I just grab mods off steam or is this another chink game where all the good stuff is jammed onto 3dm and other such forums?';

'>>1717790
Steam looks like it has the most stuff, haven't found a site with any mod that isnt super outdated. Either way the only mods worth downloading are
>>1716524
>Expanded Field View
Everything else is trash or destroys the game. No idea why the 40 level mod is so popular it destroys the entire game balance.';

'>>1710228
Sounds kinda lame honestly. A level 20 hero with good gear can already swing fights so much. Going past that just sounds like straight Dynasty Warriors.';

'>>1713483
>Do kids become sort of generals/heroes?
Yes, your kid will grow up and become heroes, you can also influence them with events during childhood to determine their stats and abilities. They're honestly kind of overpowered';

'The Chinese simply can't resist the urge to go maximum overgrind every single time. Here's an idea: instead of having me repeatedly fight things so I can take another whack at the loot casino, how about you just have me fight them once for guaranteed gear with the caveat that they are now difficult to beat?';

'>Capture city entirely on my own while significantly outnumbered
>Faction leader gives ownership to some fuck who already has more fiefs than anyone else and instead gives me a reward for contribution
>The reward isn't even enough for a single T4 unit while I lost two T5's in the siege

This truly is Mount and Fucking Blade.';

'>asian game
>final boss is God
Every single time';

'>>1721266
>sieges are trash and heavily abused
>capture city
>can only build a lumber mill
>gain zero income and now you're the target for every enemy lord.
>Heroes and lords only have 3 quest variations
>Must rush to acquire your preferred heroes since they can join factions and lag the game with bloat when any faction can get over 30 armies.
The one good side about this game is that the girls are cute';

'>>1721636
>sieges are trash and heavily abused
How? Share your secrets.';

'>>1721644
New dlc made it so everyone has to go through a single door, to reach the main camp, literally just put your army on the Defense mode and everything with die trying to squeeze through.';

'>>1722124
I see. It worked really well shitting all over the Dhir. Did a siege with almost no injuries. But it didn't go so well against the Ifrit. The flame towers and mage meteors heavily punished bunching up.';

'>>1720433
The game is extremly bare bones even more so than vanilla M&B. Devs have to make up time wasting content.
>>1717790
The game is difficult to mod but I heard the devs will release new tools to make things easier for players to fiddle around with, we might get some more mods beyond porn pngs and cheats.';

'What’s a fun class to play? I tried Sultan but the special base building mechanic is so garbage since managing population is a bitch and its story went nowhere with zero choice in its ending.';

'>>1723091
Spiritmancer is the best overall experience IMO. It has a great class story, you start off with a strong allied Hero from day 1 (the ninja younger sister of your dead wife) making early game easier, it doesn't have any limitations on what magic skills you can learn, and its class tree includes a mix of AoE, CC, summons, damage boosts, and mobility.
also you get a pimpin' purple and gold outfit';

'Finished painting the map on NG+2 sandbox mode. SoS is a fun little game but it has too little content to sustain long periods of play. It's kind of pump and dump. Only a handful of mods look particularly worth trying too.';

'>>1723146
>step sister
Miss me with that censored bullshit';

'>>1723146
I liked Spiritmancer's class quest more than the main quest, though that's not really telling much since I'd say that the main quest is kind of shit (especially towards the end).
To be fair, Chinese games are notorious for having crappy translations so there's, supposedly, an excuse at least.';

'>>1716524
>>1718410
>Expanded Field View
I searched the English and then DeepL'd my way through the first 5 pages of most subscribed and didnt' see it. Could one of you post the Chinese name for it?';

'>>1726083
That’s the name of the old mod when the game was on beta that no longer works.

There’s a new updated one https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2723505408

Mandatory mod since a lot of maps have interactions that you can’t reach for some reason.';

'>>1726502
Ohhh okay. That explains it. Thanks';

'>>1725942
What is the og story version?';

'>>1725942
>Miss me with that censored bullshit
She's not your step sister, she's your sister-in-law. Your dead wife's imouto. Not YOUR sister,';

'>have to level up relations with heroes to recruit them
>also they rotate locations like in M&B
I hate this shit. I hate this shit so much. I'm gonna end up getting that spy talent that lets me just mouse over places on the map to find them.';

'>>1727790
>that one loli companion that you want can’t be found because the translated text is hidden by the UI and she’s hidden everywhere
There’s also the companions that can only be found roaming the map, which makes them extra hard to recruit.

Also I really recommend that you don’t play the game on expert, every single hero will join a faction leaving you with absolutely nothing I’m not even joking I tried it out one moth into the game I lost all access to heroes and have to do the same 10 favour quests to convince them to join my party.

Also despite there being over 30 companions only a handful have any unique dialogue or quests. Rest are fodder.';

'>>1727957
God, it sounds so fucking cancer. I can't believe I haven't had any luck at finding a permanent 100 favor mod or something on the workshop either.';

'WHY DO ALL OF THESE BOSSES HAVE SO MUCH FUCKING CC, AND WHY ARE STRENGTH POTIONS SO HARD TO COME BY
Fucking hell. If I didn't find a sword with a skill that lets me heal to full, I'd be absolutely fucked as Sentinel.';

'>>1700458
>chink
stopped reading right there';

'>>1727790
>>1727957
Damn I actually liked the game and was considering playing it again and try to finish it but considering this and that they ruined sieges it makes me further postpone it';

'>>1728801
Yeah it might be my single biggest point of dissatisfaction with the game so far, even surpassing my desire for better combat. I really hope a mod (cheat) comes along that'll rectify it.';

'>passive from Threnody's tree gives 500 "arcane" attack
>does nothing for the PC because it doesn't give magic attack
Wow. Cool. At least it gives Freezing Immune, I guess.';

'>>1728801
Sieges are the biggest disappointment, when they brought in I thought it’d be better but it actually got worse. You can’t position your archers without charging all your men, all the attack towers are situated way in the back so they never hit anything leaving the enemy free to break down the gates, a literal barracks is spawned in a literal area for AI forts and you have to destroy it quickly or else it will start spawning an unlimited number of elite units so Zerg rushes are important.

Biggest crime though is that battles happen in real time during the map phase as well so when a battle is ongoing for too long reinforcements will arrive every 5 min so again you’re forced to Zerg rush the game.';

'>>1729455
This sounds fucking abysmal. How much of this do I avoid by simply not getting the DLC that """"improves"""" sieges?';

'>>1729567
There’s an option in the DLC menu to disable the walls I believe';

'>>1727790
This game took all the good ideas of the original M&B as well as the bad. But the devs forgot that the only thing that kept M&B ongoing was the modding community which SoS has none that isn’t simply cheats or waifu nonsense.';

'How are the DLCs? Last I played all I can remember is the ice mage companion you can choose at the start is a higher level than every one else and that the shapeshifter's dragon form was hilariously busted and easy to get';

'>>1732518
None are actually worth it, game still feels bare bones and you're a god of the battlefield by day 60';

'The art style reminds me of slave trainer games';

'>>>OP

steam reviews never lie. shit thread. the game is bugged and sucks for many other reasons.';