'>>37854739
Exactly,you should put it inside a femboy butt while doing sex magick
That's the only way to cum';

'>>37854749
Using this precious force for evil purposes is even worse.';

'>>37854753
I never said anything about evil shit,just do it with love to bond with him spiritually <3';

'Jerking off hysteria is an entirely modern. It’s like a ouiji board';

'>>37854770
>hysteria
There's no hysteria, it's immediately observable physiological and mental effects. You just really, really want people to jerk off for some reason';

'Only retards argue. Shills and retards. Let them jews and coomers promote cooming your lifeforce away. And let the practitioners stay strong and silent';

'>>37854834
I guess you're right. If they won't even question it no amount of common sense will ever convince them, it's a realization you come to on your own or you don't';

'i want to blame my lustful urges for preventing access to deeper spiritual insight, but i end up actively looking out for it and paying attention to it to satisfy myself sexually. i think i am neglecting something important, which i am attempting to soothe through this, but i don't know what.';

'>>37854739
If you can't incorporate sexuality into spirituality you have failed';

'>>37854777
wait til you learn about what your mother and father did to make you.';

'>>37854739
Of course they are in denial.
Almost all addicts are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT2SsWOCoEw';

'>>37856219
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.';

'>>37854739
One of the most well known occultists (King Solomon) that summoned and controlled demons had 700 wives you retard. He was definitely ejaculating every single day and he has more proficiency in magic than you ever will.

They funny thing is you idiots think that you will attain power or "enlightenment" by denying your true nature, that's not how that shit works, you will just stagnate and do nothing instead, and that's ironically what Buddhism is, sit and do nothing and forget about reality and your desires. It's the self neutering of man, and semen retention / nofap are just minor manifestations of that same self neutering philosophy.';

'>>37856688
> by denying your true nature
>Masturbating and cooming is my true nature.
Spoken like a true degenerate addict.';

'if your energy is infinite then why do you care so much';

'>>37857100
>Masturbating and cooming is my true nature.
Nice attempt at a strawman.

What I meant is pursuing sexual pleasure is in our true nature. In the past we'd all be able to go to a brothel without risking being jailed (especially in the times when King Solomon was around), nowadays the only safe outlet is porn. If prostitution was legalized and commercialized fully next year (brothels, std screening for men and women, etc), the large majority of men would stop masturbating to porn, because we'd now have the a superior outlet for our sexual urges.

We don't all have 700 wives willing and ready to fuck, beggars can't be choosers, so we take what we can get.

The only reason most men even get married is to have "in home pussy" lol. To have dependable access to a sexual outlet. Marriage is just another form of prostitution, it's an exchange of resources, this is why men are expected to pay for most of everything (it starts in the dating phase).';

'>>37856688
>He was definitely ejaculating every single day
What makes you so sure of that?';

'>>37857100
>Spoken like a true degenerate addict.
I'm willing to bet you drink alcohol and/or smoke weed, and even if not those things, you consume as much entertainment as you want when you are bored.

Don't you think it's funny that nobody ever calls entertainment an addiction?

We never treating endlessly seeking out entertainment as an addict behavior. The guy who endlessly seeks out sexual stimuli because of his biological programming is a "sex addict" or a "porn addict", but that same programming is what makes us all experience "boredom", and that boredom makes us endlessly seek out "entertainment" (books, movies, tv shows, music, etc).

We don't think of entertainment as an addiction, because we choose not to view it that way, because we know we REALLY don't want to live without it, and we don't see it as "harming us". But ironically the guy that ejaculates everyday experiences no harm either, but we have ridiculous movements like semen retention and nofap that have no logic behind their beliefs.

It's all cherry picking based on what people believe they can live without, and what people stake their egos in.

The male ego is heavily staked in sex, so I'm not surprised that men created movements to police their sexuality and to try and establish rules of "masculinity". But you will never see the same thing with entertainment, because men don't stake their egos in how they are entertained, they don't see being entertained as "weakness" in the same way they see masturbation as weakness.';

'>>37854777
>You just really, really want people to jerk off for some reason
You just really, really want to sell your Kellogs brand anti-jerkoff biscuits. No one before the 1800s even thought about it for a minute, except for puritans that literally cut their balls off because their private schoolmarm would slap their little nuts with a ruler.';

'>>37857153
>What makes you so sure of that?
The extremely low probability of a man having 700 wives and not having sex as much as possible. Especially knowing the male libido and how much men crave sexual variety.

It's very easy to get bored of sex if you are only having sex with the same woman. This is why couples have to do things to "spice things up" in the bedroom. But if you could have sex with 700 different women over the span of 700 days, rinse and repeat (since woman #1 would be a distant memory by the time you loop back around), you could very likely have sex everyday and it enjoy it very much.';

'>>37854770
it coincides with the vanishing of supernatural phenomena!
they almost reached the breaking point in the 50s or 60s, we were at the cusp of discovering it all, but then, drugs happened... and one thing led to another and now we have thickthot, instathottery and onlyfaps and everyone glued to their mobiles phones.

i wish for a meteorite strike which robs us of all technological "progress".';

'What OP sais is true, I experienced it myself.

There is a reason for it being a practice in different traditions around the world.
Celibacy, brahmacharya, taoist cultivators... practices related to the sublimation of the sexual energy are found in the esoteric side of most creeds and religion.

The Christ in some interpretations is the cerebro spinal fluid produced in the brain that goes through a natural process of refination.

The sacred oil.


Seems like the force impulsing man to masturbate is also present in this board with all the demons trying to convince us to fap. Because that is what you are puny demons full of shit. This or ignorant people unaware of their shame.';

'>>37856688
May be he was a master tantric practitioner that didnt ejaculate when laying with his wives. This is one of the goals of a tantric practitioner who has a couple, "having sex" without the ejaculation.

The act of ejaculation seems dirty and even painful and abhorrent after tasting the pleasures one gets when treating our sexual energy as sacred.';

'>>37854739
Every normie jacks off and it doesn't give them any problems, pretending you'll get superpowers from not doing it is a cope.';

'>>37859432
>and it doesn't give them any problems
Lol. Not even worth explaining to you how you're wrong.';

'How can you be so obtuse that cant conceive having sex without ejaculating?

"Yeaaah dude he has 700 wifes this LITERALLY means that he ejaculated every day"

Your arguments are fallacious go back to your tunnels';

'>>37859436
Men who have girlfriends and wives all jack off, but everyone on nofap is an incel. Tells you everything you need to know.';

'>>37854739
You are somewhat correct, but the weird repression/rejection you have in relation to the act is more destructive than the act itself.';

'>>37854739
That's what you're calling it now? Holy shit you cum cultists are cringe.';

'>>37857160
Entertaintment adiction is or was talked about, with the adiction to smartphones and social apps. This is recognized as a problem althought it is acepted.

Games like LoL act on the dopamine the symilar way as drugs.

Entertainment is an adiction.';

'>>37854739
Do not fap, simple as.';

'>>37859479
Yeah you on the other hand arent cringe at all trying to influence people to do a shameful act you somehow feel proud of.

You are in the paranormal board and this is part of the esoteric side of almost every religion in the world. You are ignorant or evil intented, stupid either way.';

'>>37859504
It isn't shameful if you aren't a repressed weirdo, being pleasurable doesn't make something wrong. You're the one coming here trying to induct people into your cult because controlling people is what gets you off.';

'>>37859504
>shameful

See this is what I'm talking about. That's 100% a you thing. Release all neuroticism and programming about the act. Silly to put the cart before the horse.

If it occupies your mind so much that you feel the need to proselytize to random people on the internet, you have completely missed the point of the practice.';

'>>37859417
>May be he was a master tantric practitioner that didnt ejaculate when laying with his wives. This is one of the goals of a tantric practitioner who has a couple, "having sex" without the ejaculation.
Sure buddy, believe whatever you want.

A man needs 700 different variations of arousing women just to practice semen retention and tantric sex, when he could just have one wife and have tantric sex once a week (he'd always be at peak arousal levels even if he became accustomed to her beauty).

>The act of ejaculation seems dirty and even painful and abhorrent after tasting the pleasures one gets when treating our sexual energy as sacred.
Nah, I think you might just be a faggot or something.

>>37859438
>How can you be so obtuse that cant conceive having sex without ejaculating?
I did already think of that, I just instantly realized that it was convoluted and a low probability option, because if sexual pleasure and variety isn't the goal, then he could just have sex without ejaculating with a single wife (which would also save him a ton on resources spent to take care of and house all of his wives).

You guys are just retarded so you haven't thought this through.

Solomon was known as the wisest man. But you guys want to paint the picture that he's some fucking retard that spends 700 wives worth of resources for a task that only requires 1 wife.

This is what happens when your brain is being manipulated by cult thinking, you lose all common sense.

If your goal is tantric sex (no ejaculation) and semen retention, then there's no need to have multiple wives.

>>37859479
>Holy shit you cum cultists are cringe.
I agree, It's literally a cult, and only low IQ individuals join cults. Joining a cult means you can't think for yourself and you are always seeking the influence and guidance of others.

>>37859481
>Entertainment is an adiction.
You can say that all you want, but my point was that we don't treat it like an addiction, we make exceptions.';

'>>37859535
>Joining a cult means you can't think for yourself

I am not part of a cult and I arrived at this conclusion on my own. It's not like someone told me to stop fapping and that's why I seek out threads like this.';

'>>37859610
>I arrived at this conclusion on my own
Lol, yeah sure.

People arrive at all conclusions of - "sexual pleasure = bad" based on religious and spiritual based thinking. It never has anything to do with cold hard scientific logic, because there is no cold hard scientific reason to vilify sexual pleasure and deny yourself access to it.

You are literally lying right now.

At the root of your beliefs is religion (which you didn't invent) and/or spirituality (which you also did not event). These were beliefs that were told you, likely when you were young, and you internalized some of the values and they became a part of your character.

If you take a blank slate male and a blank slate female, and you raise them on an island alone together, they aren't going "arrive at the conclusion" that you or anyone else did.

That guy isn't magically going to decide that him masturbating and wanting to fuck the girl he was raised with is "deviant" or "bad" or "impure".

People have to be taught these values.

You are ironically showing clearly again that you lack the ability to think for yourself and reason.

Your indoctrination is so complete that you actually think that your beliefs are your own, and they weren't taught to you.

There is nothing inherent to sexual pleasure that should make you guys treat it as something so evil and forbidden, those are learned values.';

'>>37859704
>spiritual based thinking

Check what board you're on, retarded faggot';

'>>37859704
Also
>These were beliefs that were told you, likely when you were young

Nope. Try again';

'>>37859729
>Check what board you're on, retarded faggot
Retard that has nothing to do with the argument, you are deflecting. The point is those values aren't innate to biological reality, they are things you have to be told to believe. There is nothing you would observe about reality that would innately make you see ejaculation as something you shouldn't do.

>>37859736
>Nope. Try again
I said LIKELY

Either way these the values you have were told to you at some point (be it in a book you read, a video you saw, or someone telling you directly.';

'>>37859704
I too often come to boards I disagree with to defend my habits to people I don't know.
The fact that you are here trying to defend your habits should tell you all you need to know.
But you are getting angry at us because we aren't like you.
Kind of like an ugly fat chick complaining about Beauty Standards.';

'>>37859766
>I too often come to boards I disagree with to defend my habits to people I don't know.
I too take controversial stances on public platforms while expecting no public criticism

You can't have it both ways friend.';

'>>37859808
>Controversial
So are beauty standards to fat ugly women.
It's because we live in an age of snowflakes who get triggered when someone tells them that they aren't perfect.';

'>>37859514
>>37859522
>>37859535
Your arguments are good but my personal experience testifies the benefits of retaining the seed.

I think it is good for me, I have seen the difference between cum and no cum and it is enormous.';

'>>37859839
>So are beauty standards to fat ugly women.
No it isn't, that's a show for social media. Fat women still get treated like shit in your own country in real life, every single day, and they know they aren't desired. Also, in the large majority of countries in the world it definitely isn't controversial in social media

Same thing with masturbation and sex when it comes to you guys. This is just internet/social media nonsense. In real life everybody thinks you guys are retarded.

The large majority of men in your own country (and across the world) masturbate and have sex as often as possible, and experience non of the side effects you claim they should.

The large majority of male celebrities that out perform you in every aspect from athleticism, fitness, finances, etc all ejaculate as much as they want, and experience none of the side effects you talk about.

So there is no logical reason to do Semen Retention or NoFap if you are just going to get outperformed by 99% of the male population anyways that doesn't do it.

That's a little example of logic and reasoning, I hope you learn to apply it. Maybe then the placebo would stop affecting your mind and you can actually start thinking for yourself.

>>37859884
>my personal experience testifies the benefits of retaining the seed.
Could literally just be a placebo (in fact, I'm sure it is).

>I have seen the difference between cum and no cum and it is enormous.
Sure sure. You've have you've had your vitals, blood, etc tested over a period of time like as study to objectively compare the numbers and see if the results are real. I'm sure of it.

It's definitely not just in your head, and you getting a psychological boost which feels physical, because you are ashamed of masturbation and not doing it makes you feel better.';

'>>37859884
I don't care if you jack off or not but I'm sick of cum cultists shitting up the board with these threads constantly.';

'>>37859905
>Also, in the large majority of countries in the world it definitely isn't controversial in social media
You're right.
It's only in the West where we have people who are over emotional narcissistic snowflakes who get triggered by people who have a different opinion of them.
People that insist that people call them by their preferred pronouns.
Or tell them that they are healthy and attractive even though they are morbidly obese.
These people insist we tell them 2+2=5 because 4 hurts their feelings.';

'Semen retention is the oldest the most obvious practice you have to do to get any kind of shit to really work. The purification of the sexual waters into the wine of spirit, lead into gold, the waters at the root of the tree of yggdrasil, kundalini, yada yada

All magik and magic systems that you could name anywhere on the planet is connected to a root tradition that included some understanding of the sexual life force.

Tidbits
Your are supposed to have the fire of eros, it is drive
The fire of eros only manifests as lust because u let it, it will automatically become vivid life and creativity and intelligence and physical prowess if not spent
by expelling lust you lose the chance to transmute it through action and meditation until it return.
You run out of both the enjoyment hormones and the material sperm. and in that state you are hormonal and weak physically and you wont mentally recover until 7 days later. which is when prolactin and cortisol finally flushes out.

the idea that i somehow abhor sex or hate women is ridiculous. when i jealously guard the very things that allow me to do that in the first place. when i guard the energy and power and clarity that comes with retention so i can experience the full strength of my own love for my self and for the feminine form. In a post fap haze there is no desire sexually for anything.';

'>>37860056
Your on the paranormal thread, semen retention is the most obvious and fastest way to have consistent paranormal events.';

'You feel spent because you're an unfit fat fuck';

'>>37854753
You're trying to use it for evil by "influencing" others to retain their semen, right now.
You just want to milk that labor buck for as long as you can swindle tax dollars from the goy cattle.
Go fuck yourself, OP.';

'>>37860328
>Semen retention is the oldest the most obvious practice you have to do to get any kind of shit to really work. The purification of the sexual waters into the wine of spirit, lead into gold, the waters at the root of the tree of yggdrasil, kundalini, yada yada
>All magik and magic systems that you could name anywhere on the planet is connected to a root tradition that included some understanding of the sexual life force.
>Your are supposed to have the fire of eros, it is drive
What do you do for living (business, job, etc)?';

'>>37859905
*hand rubbing intensifies';