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'>>178916
>>178917
Asumming this went to a decision, those are good things right? Is the ref stepping in cause that was a foul?';

'>>178927
sweeps are legal. refs just stopping them because no fighting if someone is on the floor';

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'why do so many faggots in MMA pretend they do muay thai?';

'>>179286
Because saying kickboxing makes people think of 14yr olds doing tkd. And they don't like the way that makes them feel about themselves.';

'>>179293
But it's a lie
Muay Thai is a thing, if you don't do it then you don't do it';

'>>179286
exactly what >>179293 said';

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'Any advice on how to build a guard? Or do I just need to simply take more punches and let it form itself';

'seed the fucking liam harrison torrent @ nigger not seeding';

'>>179444
I have never heard of anyone talk about building a guard lmao';

'I’m very new to Muay Thai (<2 months) and I’m still getting my ass kicked due to poor movement. I’m so used to standing in front of a bag and ripping combos, I’ve only sparred maybe 6 times since joining. Any drills or advice that’s not “move when hitting a heavy bag”?';

'>>179759
Work on shadowboxing. Get used to moving after each strike in front of the heavy bag. Practice defense only drills with a partner. Less than two months is pretty soon, so don't be discouraged';

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'>>179759
Less than two months? Just stick with it and keep showing up, listening to your coaches.';

'I have a herniated disc (L-5) that a few days ago was inflammed or some shit because I was helping move a lot of heavy things. It's still extremely painful to touch my toes, however I can shuffle around and shadow box. When it's not inflammed, I can skateboard down stair sets and ride motorbikes and all kinds of high intense activity with no issue except stiffness afterwards

Was thinking of going to my first Muay Thai class tonight, good idea or no? My thought is the activity would actually help the pain subside';

'>>180058
idk, dude. fuck. I'm not a doctor. Just try it out when it's not inflamed. I don't think it'll treat your pain tho. Just a matter of how much you can take.';

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'>>178915
Can I make friends doing Muay Thai? If I'm being honest I'm mainly just wanting to do martial arts to be apart of a community and make friends';

'>>180945
Yes but a hobby with a discussion component would be better for that lol';

'>>180962
This. I talk way more at my krav maga classes than thai because the moves are more complex.';

'>>181078
Like talking shit or what?
There was Krav Maga people subletting space in our judo club on Saturdays and they're off in the corner snickering at the bjj class "see that would never really work"
Which was overheard by the instructor, so he called them out on it and welcomed them to come prove him wrong but none of them did';

'>>181114
Talking about the moves' execution. Krav has a lot of situational shit so it's harder to know everything.';

'I won a fight';

'Can I learn thai shadow boxing form youtube?
The guys is a 12x champ and says so, but every about it feels wrong?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI7QbWADsgU
I just want to be okay at it.';

'>>181611
Gabriel Varga is legit. Beginner section looks clean and correct. I'm this guy >>181230 , I just pick things up from his channel, he's like the aggregator of kickboxing and some what muay thai techniques';

'>>181618
Okay thanks, and good shit on winning your fight.';

'>>180058
I don't know of its a herniated disc or not but I have had horrible lower back pain on and off from deadlifting accident for the better part of a year now. Like literally randomly started screaming walking up stairs bad / initially hurt taking corners while driving lol. No sciatica though so I cannot know for sure if it is a disc problem. Anyway long story short I stopped weight lifting and started martial arts again and it definitely helped me. Literally made it to away but then it flared up again during Christmas break from inactivity and went away once training again so gotta keep it moving. They say for some back injuries they won't fully heal but your bodies neurotransmitters will eventually learn to ignore the painful location because for your survival in evolutionary terms you had to keep moving even if you had an injury.';

'>>181718
>>180058
Oh yeah and I forgot to mention some yoga type stuff like cat cow pose really helped me too. It makes the painful area crack lol.';

'>>181138
Kys kike';

'>Kick couch out of boredom
>Hurts a bit but I continue
>2 weeks later
>Still cant kick the heavybag without feeling like my shin is about to snap
Im fucking retarded';

'>>181912
Did the same with my hand';

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'When was the last time MT invent new move?';

'>>181920
why does this keep happening to vegans?';

'Would you say 2 days is enough to become decent? Sometimes it's all I can do with my job and everything, but I always try to do 3 days if I can, just kinda feel bad when it isn't 3 days';

'>>181920
How?';

'Bone conditioning does not increase bone durability. In fact it may cause your bones to shrink, and even if it does it will deform them into a less structurally sound shape';

'>>181950
Sure, it'll just take longer than someone going more often.';

'I think what's pretty interesting is that under oneFC rules muay thai just becomes karate
Everything unique about it completely evaporates with MMA gloves and 3 rounds';

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'>>182539
How do you mean? I like karate but compare them to say early days Machida I don't see the similarity.';

'>>182690
It's not tight with in the pocket exchanges, it's way more loose and blitzey
Take some pot shots and get out of dodge
More movement based defense, less parrying, less clinching

These are considerations that need to be made when you don't have the gloves
It's sort of like how judo turns into Greco-Roman when you take the jackets away';

'Do bones get stronger with kicking over time? My lower tibua bone hurts after doing heavy bag work, so I think its either shin splints or a stress fracture.
Do I just let it heal and repeat until the bone grows denser or is that not how it works';

'>>183067
It's not how it always works. Bones have a harder drawn line of fucking up than muscles, though it's usually further out. And diet and rest play an even more important part in any potential healing adaptations than they do in muscular or cardio development. And not everyone heals the same even with optimal rest and intake. That said, hurt /= bad. Every surface that is new to striking is virgin, and you'll have to figure out what's a good pressure for yourself, no matter how much help you get.';

'>>183067
bones heal by pulling minerals away from other areas of the bone
continuing to bang on it will only weaken you over time

everyone should be wearing shin guards just like they wear gloves when doing bag work, there's no reason to damage your body unnecessarily
remember, Thailand is a 3rd world country thats so poor it's a valid career choice to start cross dressing and eat tourists asses for $18 a pop
don't look to them for valid scientific training methods';

'Hey just watched this movie and now I think I will give mt a try
What do I need to know beforehand?
All I have is some everlast gloves(18oz?)and wraps.
Also I haven people wrap there hands differently does it matter?';

'>>183168
before you do that you need to watch the protector starring tony jaa, it's the definitive muay thai movie';

'>>183177
Sure';

'>>183181
Let me know what you think after :)';

'>guy in my class always tries to correct what I'm doing when we drill together
>He is always wrong and gets contradicted by the coach, tells me what I am doing (footwork, order of strikes, type of strike and technique) is wrong but I'm always actually right once the coach observes us drilling

I try to be respectful to everyone in my gym but this guy is really bothering me';

'Which boxing style would complement with muay thai stance?';

'>>179444
Replying to myself, the answer was to just simply take more punches. Did light sparring with a guy who competes and told me my defense was getting good';

'>>183528
Eh, boxing stances don't usually work because it plants your feet to eat up the full extent of low kicks.

The Dutch stance which is the middle ground between Queensbury-rules boxing and Muay Thai is your best option to have rapid-fire combos while being able to kick/knee as well as defend.';

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'I never see the "climb" techniques of muay boran in any fight, Why?';

'>>184832
"Its too lethal to be use" but fr I mean 12-6 elbows are illegal in mma after all';

'Pretty embarrassing post and you guys can make fun of me buuuut uh I cried after my first real sparring match, we do this routine where we form a circle in the last 10-5 minutes of class and we spar pretty much all out, and a couple days ago it was my turn and I got absolutely picked apart, got kicked in the nuts by accident after trying to kick high, I sort of just froze up and just defended myself the only good thing I did was keep my head up and not flinch away but besides that my offense was pretty dead.

It was just kind of embarrassing a little, people were trying to shout stuff for me to do but it was just kind of a blur and I didn't think about what they were saying until after. Also sucks that there's this other guy who showed up around when i did and he held his own way better against one of our teachers who's an amateur fighter

Idk if it's injured pride or a realization of how a fight with me would go down (me losing, heh) but I sort of just wanted to vent a little, I've only been going for a month and I shouldn't sweat it but yeah.';

'>>185383
That's not too abnormal. An all out fight is a very different experience to just running drills and if you're in panic mode (which you clearly were) you're going to kind of just shut down. That's why you spar, to get used to it and stop panicking.
All you can do is get back on the horse and practice more. The more you do, the calmer you will be and the more everything will be smooth and reflexive.
My suggestion would be to think or even talk through what you could have done better, pick something simple and concrete and focus on trying to achieve that next time you get called up. A mindset of "I should be doing this" will put you in a better headspace than "oh god this guy is destroying me, what do I do" even if you don't completely achieve what you set out to do.';

'>>178915
I've been fighting japanese martial arts since 13
I am a black belt in taekwondo and I just started doing muay thai, it is so nice to use everythign I got there, it feels so much more free, it is awsome.

I hate to block kicks and defending instead of dodging tho. but besides that the fight is awsome

I just bought a 20mm PU shinguard, is it enough to protect me? I am from Brazil and didn't wanted to spend much money in it';

'>>183524
Just correct him back, especially using the coach as the authority.';

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'I've never done any martial arts, but i'd like to start. Muay thai and boxing interests me, but i think the first one may be too hard. Should I start with something else? Also, can i get permanently injured by combat sports?';

'>>187046
Take a trial class for both and see what you like

>Also, can i get permanently injured by combat sports?
Yes. Any sport that involves hard physical contact carries the risk. You can mitigate the risk with good training practices and partners, but sometimes accidents occur.';

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'This is my second time hitting a heavy bag. Can you guys please let me know what can i do to kick better? Been training for about 3 months

What the fuck do i do with my arms? Should they stay up when i kick? Do i move them at all to get better momentum/hip rotation? fucking arms, how do they work

From what i gather
-more movement on the "non-kicking" foot
-my back should be straight
-more hip movement

https://youtube.com/shorts/tWGv6hk0bHc

appreciate your help. Thanks';

'I was sparring today for the first time in years (did thaiboxing for 2 years then quit since then only wrestling). Need some feedback here:
>was getting tagged a lot, but only when I initiated my punching combos. Got countered in between a lot. I’m trying to develop my game into a dutch style but I find it hard to land longer combinations because of being countered. How do I improve this?
>2nd problem, I had a lot of difficulty finding the right angle and the right distance for punches. I easily landed my jabs and my rear roundhouse (my best strike desu), but hooks, uppercuts and combinations were very hard to find the correct angle and range for. How2improve this?

From what I can tell a lot of this is just ring rust but a lot of it is also not having any footwork. All I know is an L-step. But do muay thai guys really do footwork anyway?';

'I’ve been training Muay Thai for about 3 months now, coach says I am progressing much faster than most. I want to fight eventually, I’m not expecting to be a big shot moving through the ranks but I like competition and really love training. I’m currently 24 and in alright shape, gotta lose some weight though; how long will it probably take me to get to the point I can start to think about fighting in a local promotion? I train 3 days 3 hours per day and do boxing twice a week, I can add weights and cardio if that will help me get there faster. I know I sound like a sperg typing this but it’s only because I want to do this before I’m too old to really milk it for what I can. Any advice welcomed, thanks.';

'>>188192
you need to be running every day to have the stamina for 5 full rounds. When I was in Thailand my first time in the ring was after 6 months or so training full time, although most gyms dont give a shit and will put anyone into the ring who wants to fight. can you clinch? can you connect any strike to any other strike while gaining ground? do you have a handful of takedowns that work for you? can you take hits without flinching and read incoming strikes? if so youre probably ready. If you still find yourself stepping away from your opponent at any time during sparring, you probably arent. good luck anon, kicking your opponents ribs after 1000 hours kicking the bag feels amazing';

'>>188249
I check a few of those boxes but not all, I’ll definitely work on them. My coach told me he won’t let me fight until he knows I’m ready, so I’m not too worried about getting in the ring and getting beat the fuck up. This all sounds like very sound advice, thanks anon. I think I’m gonna just fight MT until I get good at jiu jitsu then take a stab at MMA, but we’ll cross that bridge when we get there';

'>>188312
Also should add that I take some heavy blows in sparring and they don’t phase me all that much, footwork is probably my weakest link right now; any drills or resources to improve? Of course I’m gonna work on it with my coach but just stuff I can do on my own time';

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'Hey goys, need a bit of advice

>early 20's
>5'7 Serb
>Built like a blocky pile of concentrated sinew
>autistic schizophrenic adhd bipolar, you name it I have it
>Been interested in combat sports for a while
>Noticed its been a physical hyperfixation
>Want to be big boy mma guy but keep my mouth shut about it
>Live near kickbox gym
>Trainer is a fat guy that goes 60/mph and is only a trainer cause he killed a guy in the ring
>Already 1 hour of training clocked in learning my crosses and jabs and pain in the ass cardiomuscular warmups
>i fucking love it
Is it worth it bros?
Should I shoot my shot?';

'>>187754
Yes, you're kicking with the leg rather than with the hip. You can see when you hit the bag your body is facing the bag, it should be completely turned and facing to the side like pic related. That means that instead of the leg coming up pretty much linear at a 45 degree angle, it comes up and then curves so that your shin hits completely horizontal. This requires rotating your torso, and pivoting your back foot (as the leg comes up) until it is pointing directly away from the bag. Think about it like swinging your leg over a really tall bike';

'>>183103
bone damage only when you're doing something really wrong. It hurts mostly in the nerves in the skin, pain goes away when you get used to it';

'>>188434
thank you i will try it out next time i do bag work';

'>>188403
i don't get it. Are zoomers this retarded? just train, it will be worth it';

'>>183103
Based and ladyboi pilled';

'>>183088
True';

'So, correct me if I'm wrong, in Muay Thai there is less focus on head punches due to the scoring system, but still good boxing nevertheless, the stance is squared, kicks are a few but very effective and they hit with the shin. The style includes Knees, elbows and clinch work. In comparison however "Standard" Kickboxing, like K1 ruleset Kickboxing for example, has more emphasis on punches to the head and boxing, I see from the matches that it's more fast paced, the stance is bladed, no clinch, no elbows. I think their low kicks hit with the shin but they have other Van Damme esque high kicks that hit with the instep. All things considered, which one of these different approach is considered "better" overall for fighting and self defense? I hope I explained myself well. I got to decide between training Kickboxing K1 or Muay Thai but I'm confused. Thanks!';

'>>188888
Checkd and thx famalam, already a few classes in now, I can do pretty decent crosses and leg kicks now.';

'>>188915
Muay Thai also high kick with parts of instep';

'>>188915
>which one of these different approach is considered "better" overall for fighting
What's considered better for fighting depends on the ruleset they're competing under.

>self defense
They both work for self defense. People vastly overestimate how low the bar is for self defense.';

'>>181288
fucking love that clip.
Check out a site called striking.coach its full of striking technique. The founder of the site is my coach and he is a fucking g. There is so much technique available on there, from the striking to clinching.
Very easy to transfer into k1';

'Who is Boxeador Ruso? I saw his fight with Buakaw but it seems like he's not famous besides it.';

'>>180774
go back to the pub, kid. listen to The Pogues and keep on thinkin' you are the greatest.';

'>>184832
The stance in muay boran was much, much lower than it is in Muay Thai. In MT we often teach you to stand tall, which is to specifically prevent the climb technique from working. You would normally kinda jump off the knee of the standing leg of the opponent but that needs them to have a strong base, and bent angle, for you to have a base to jump off of.
But as the other guy said 12 to 6 elbows are illegal and that is the particular instance they should remain illegal. I think it could be attempted in MMA to go for a knee to the face though. It'd look pretty cool but with the front kick to the knee being made popular by Jon Jones now the current meta would also make it difficult to even try.';

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'>>189161
>striking.coach
yeah i am not paying to see some videos let's be real here (unless he does jelly feet videos)';

'>>181288
I don't but been considering it
probably worth to ask mates from the club if they wanna share an account';

'>>180962
>>180945
There is plenty to talk about in MT, recent/upcoming fights, cool moves, tactics and strategies for sparring and competing. If you're willing to get nerdy, there is alot to talk about in strategies, stance dynamics, and such.';

'>>181289
Man i love Nong-O';

'Had my first class today and one middle-aged dude that seems experienced decided to go apeshit on me during sparring, even thou I was trying to go as light as I could, and would even return his hard blows with light ones to see if he got a clue.

Ended my round with him with my nose bleeding, a black eye (that couldn't see for a second after one punch) and a pulsating head ache that's still hurting even a few hours later.

Other seniors and guys that look like actual fighters were all very gentle and coached me through my rounds of touch sparring with them, so I don't feel it's necessarily a gym issue. That guy is probably just an asshole out to prove something. Is it culturally acceptable for me to just refuse to train with him going forward? It's not like I'm out for revenge or some shit like that, but I don't want anything to do with him again. It's barbaric, counterproductive and needlessly dangerous behavior. I'll try to just avoid him going forward, but how well do guys like that usually take a straight "no, I won't spar with you"? I'm putting myself first either way, but would prefer not to ruffle any feathers.

>inb4 git gud
Literally started today

>inb4 just soldier through
No, fuck you. I'm not getting hurt as a hobby.';

'>>190704
Yeah, just refuse to spar with him. He shouldn't have gone so hard on you. I had the same thing happen with a dude when I first started, and I just avoided him for a couple of months. Then I realised he was a shit fighter and I was already better, so I sparred him, started light to see if he'd throw bombs like last last time (he did) and then I smashed him. Fucker doesn't make eye contact with me anymore.';

'>>190576
What upcoming fights are you looking forward to?';

'>>190704
There's unfortunately almost always one of those guys at the gym. Fighting just tends to attract weirdos with baggage and frustrations. As a beginner i had a guy crack my rib in drills from him just going 100% on the same punch in the same spot to prove how hard-core he was. I'm sure most guys hate him too, anon. Nothing wrong with refusing to spar with him, if there's no other partner available just tell the trainer that guy refuses to not go full power and shadow box a round instead
>in Thailand
>one of the adopted fighters is a skinny Thai kid with a horrible attitude
>in drills likes to suddenly sneak in full power haymakers
>giant Danish heavyweight gigachad paired with him one day
>middle of practice "nope, I'm not gonna train with him anymore. He's passing me off and if I hit him back with power he might die"
>trainer just nods knowingly
>kinda wish he had punched that kid in the face';

'>>179286
>>179299
As if it's all that fucking complicated.
>oh look I hold my hands higher
>muh elbows'n'knees
>looky at me I blocky wit shins
Stop fucking acting like it's some super complex shit. That's literally all it fucking is.';

'>way too many people for the training area and staff to handle
>bare bones technical instructions and a figure it out yourself attitude
>no attempt to pair up noobies with experienced people so you can actually learn instead of internalizing mistakes
>unsupervised sparring from day 1
I enrolled in a shitty gym, didn't I? They actually bothered to try teaching me when I went for a trial class, but that evaporated when I actual startes paying. They told me to go at a specific time for the trial class and I guess that was to make sure I'd get one where they can actually manage the amount of students, because on regula post wageslaving hours that place feels impossible to train in.';

'What’s up with anons saying they’re getting their asses kicked “in sparring” on the first day?

I’ve been going for 6 months and still don’t do the advanced sessions which is sparring, but they go 40-60% at most.

The routine and skill level I’m on we do some “timing” or technical sparring which you’ll just make contact but not put beyond 20% power behind it.

These anons might just be going to shitty gyms kek hope they work it out';

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'>>191310
switch the gym bro, it's not worth it';

'>>191312
hey i've been doing MT for 5 months and just now we're beginning to spar a little bit, sparing at 1st day is retarded i agree lmao';

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'>place opens up a location near me
>check it out
>people lining up and bowing and doing calisthenics
yup that's gonna be a pass for me. So basically it's karate class for grownups?

let me give it to you straight. If I'm paying you for lessons I'm paying for instruction, I want the entire hour to be instructive. I'm not paying someone to have me do sit ups and jump ropes and shit
you're there to show me moves and give drills to improve them, not to fix my fucking squat
I wouldn't be going to a brown ladyboy midget if I needed exercise tips';

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'>>178915
Saenchai is a bad mother fucker!

https://youtu.be/Vq6irThIPCs?si=K1BZk6_5GyAJQ--8';

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'I have the fastest hands in my gym, praise me';

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