'Showers';

'>>191479
>I think there should always be a bowl of oranges on the front desk for anyone to have
你是中国人吗?';

'I dunno about should, but I'm super envious of the places with secondary mats that are pretty much always open mat as long as the school is. Really good way to justify those monthly bills.';

'>>191479
This sounds retarded and specific but How can I takedown a sport shotokan guy? One leg in the front, small jumps, moving constantly, always at long distance and avoiding any grab and exchange.
A BJJ/MMA guy told me to do a single leg.';

'probably just mints. that'd be pretty cool. maybe spearmint, I like spearmint.';

'>>191610
I don't care for the smell of spearmint, wintergreen is preferable';

'>>191601
Is there striking involved?';

'>>191625
There is striking involved but the practitioners don't know how to use knees and sprawl.';

'>>191662
>>191601
Gi involvement is probably gonna be a big deciding factor here for suggestions. Not that the typical karate gi is great for rip & tear.';

'>>191662
>>191664

What's the context here? Are you fighting some dude that's gonna wear a karate gi? Are you in a cage/ring or open mat?

If they're blitzing in with point karate style moves, take a few hits to catch a kick and finish the single leg however you like.

You can shoot for a low single but you're probably gonna get kicked if you don't know how to set it up properly. A big overhand to double leg is always a good option (khabib style)

Really though, need to know the context here.';

'>>191527
And a ching chong nip nong to you too good sir';

'>>191689
Courtesy oranges are a thing at Chinese restaurants when you go with Chinese people and don't get the white guy treatment. I've never been given oranges at BJJ or judo class (coach used to give us snacks like that at wrestling tournaments but that's a bit different) so I was wondering if OP was Chinese.';

'>>191479
Am I a full retard for basing my whole game around these 4?
Rnc and leglock have got me pretty far.';

'>>191692
well oranges are just the perfect choice
they smell nice, add a splash of color to the room, if you're autistic like most of us are the peel is very tactile and satisfying to run your fingers over
but practically they're conveniently individually wrapped, and they're a perfect snack to have before or after you exercise because they're so juicy and full of sugar and vitamins
I don't know what an electrolyte is but I bet oranges have them

much better choice than something like bananas which get stinky really fast
and even better than selling the gym members cans of jocko fuel for $5 each
the gym should be encouraging a healthful lifestyle, not pushing chemical elixirs on people

green tea and oranges, that's what you get. If you want to be healthy then look at what the people who live for 200 years are doing';

'>>191717
>much better choice than something like bananas which get stinky really fast
Bananas are popular because they're high in potassium to help hedge against cramps, even more conveniently packaged than oranges, and very cheap.';

'>>191719
the problems with bananas is their ripeness window is so small, you have like 1.5 days between being too green to eat and starting to attract flies
and the peels smell bad when they break down. The benefit of the citrus fruits is the peels dry out so they don't stink up the place while waiting for the garbage to go out, but everybody knows if there's a banana peel in there because it gets pungent real fast';

'>>191664
>>191669
Open mat with gi, the practitioners will always avoid short distance.';

'>>191601
You're going to need to learn striking defense. At the very least get one of your rolling buddies to put on some gloves or open-hand slap you as you shell up and close distance. You'll need to learn something of ring cutting/footwork to catch the slippery devil.

Kek hit him with an Imanari roll. Post footage.

>Captcha: TOSS
God wills it. You shall throw the karateka down.';

'>>191727
>>191662
>>191601
Look up Rafael Aghayev. He made a whole career out of throwing bouncy sport karate guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbte1tQma3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BO7jCpEm4BM

>use strikes and feints to force the other guy to throw back
>the other guy has to plant his feet when he's throwing
>duck under, grab something, and takedown';

'>>191748
>>191727

It is decided. Spam imanari rolls for 5 minutes until you catch him, then fuck up his knee. Or possibly get kicked in the face over and over again. Either way, film it and post it here.

Or go full BJJ retard: sit guard and butt scoot toward him saying "mount me, bro, mount me."';

'>>191721
there is tons of free bananas at 711 so I take all the brown ones for baking.';

'>>191601
If he keeps evading then shooting for singles and doubles won't work, you'll need to close the distance quickly and get into a clinch, from there you can sweep or throw';

'>>191721
>you have like 1.5 days between being too green to eat and starting to attract flies
What are you talking about? The minor browning is not rot, it's still completely edible, if less visually appealing';

'>>191479
Danaher instructionals are so good to sleep.';

'>>191703
How beneficial even are instructionals? I’ve heard it range from barely to I base my whole game around this';

'>>191894
Instructor not withstanding, it's incredibly reliant on your ability to self audit and learn. Some people get nothing out of it, some people play leap frog on their same time starts.';

'>>191894
It is just like >>191894 said,
I spent 1.5h a day studying one of the 4 but I don't think most do that.';

'>>191894
it's just information
information is only as useful as your application of it

if you're learning from it properly it should take you weeks to get through one of them as you watch a position lesson then with your partners practice it until you understand it well enough to move on. In this way it's not any different from going to a class
and that's as opposed to how most people probably use them where they watch it all the way through as quickly as they can and just assume through osmosis they'll be able to start pulling things off

or once you're experienced like me and have awakened your jiujitsu sharingan and can just mimic what you see because intuitively you already know how it works
the better you get the easier it is to learn new things
that's why you'll see the blue belts mimicking the teachers movements in the air while he's showing a move and asking to see it a few more times
and the black belts glance over one time at the beginning and 2 seconds into showing the move go oh ok then look off into space the rest of the time because they got it
then the fun trick is telling the partner with complete confidence what the next move is going to be and they think you have some kind of psychic abilities for calling it every time
but it's just intuition';

'>>191703
Great way to skyrocket to mediocre.

>>191894
Depends on your level and how autodidactic you are. If you are gonna get one, start with the gordon ryan escapes.';

'>>191839
Untapped market for Danaher ASMR of him quietly reading his notes on the history of grappling, from both Europe and Asia.';

'>>192051

When I can't sleep, sometimes I'll legitimately put on some old danaher instructional that I've seen a few times and just let his droning put me out.';

'>>192051
>12 hours of cute Danaher complimeting your bjj game ASMR
I would buy.';

'>>191894
When I started watching them and taking charge of my own learning/game is when I skyrocketed my skills.

I just find BJJ is not tought properly.

I use grapplers guide its like 50 bucks on sale it has basically a video encyclopedia on grappling with a one time fee';

'>>192309
>grapplers guide
submeta has passed it';

'>>192309
>I just find BJJ is not tought properly.
you would be right, people that do jiujitsu for a living are low IQ individuals
you already have to be low IQ to decide to make a living doing sports, and then it's a whole other level to do a sport that has no money in it
so they aren't sending their best

these are the people in charge of instruction, real dopes that have no understanding of learning modalities
"bro bjj is so complicated bro" no it isn't you've just been having an idiot explain it to you. You'd find a lot of things complicated if the person explaining it was 6 years old
"hey jonny, how do you drive a car?"
"you gotta turn the wheel and it goes vrooom!"
"woah, wow, I just cant seem to get this to work. Man, driving a car is so complicated!"

bjj is simple as fuck
don't let the other guy occupy the space between your armpits and hip. That's all there is to it. Don't let him put any part of his body in that space, meanwhile you occupy that space on him.
Congratulations you're now a red belt in BJJ';

'>>192387
>don't let the other guy occupy the space between your armpits and hip. That's all there is to it. Don't let him put any part of his body in that space, meanwhile you occupy that space on him.
Now i know BJJ.';

'>>191958
Your better starting with Craig Jones and John Danaher. Craig gives you a simple beginning and then John takes its to another level.

Gordon shares a lot and acts like they are all equal.';

'>>192387
>real dopes that have no understanding of learning modalities
>don't let the other guy occupy the space between your armpits and hip. That's all there is to it.
You're just stating a guard retention concept. That might blow the mind of a white belt but it doesn't exactly result in skill development';

'>>192561
but skills come from doing, so give yourself a set of parameters to work within and just do that
this is the ecological approach, just like when you were learning to walk nobody had to explain it to you, the parameter was get to where you want to go as fast as you can
and you experimented by doing a lot of dumb inefficient things like crawling, rolling on your belly, and scooting on your butt
then one day you pulled yourself upright and realized hey these steps get me places, maybe I can do a few of them in a row. Wala, you're walking

bjj being the same, just set the parameters for the task
never let anyone occupy that space on you. And that's the only thing you'll think of until you're good at it
next, occupy that space on the other person while not letting him do it to you
next, make sure your butt is below your head while doing those other things
etc etc and within a year I promise you'll have a white belt at close to if not beyond black belt level compared to the traditional method of "ayee my fren today we will hworke on de treeanglee choake frome de guar" in a fraction of the time';

'>>192309
Huh, I feel dumb for not knowing about GG, thanks anon.

>>192331
Yeah but like 3 months of submeta pays for lifetime access to GG. I'm a basic bitch, let me digest the old boring shit in GG then I'll start hunting for cutting-edge shit.

>>192584
Oh god it's you';

'>>192588
>Yeah but like 3 months of submeta pays for lifetime access to GG

fair, I only paid once and downloaded the whole site it I think it worth it
I would just say it's better because of it's Chapters

I did the same for bjjcoreconcept worth it aswell';

'>>192588
Well I'm right and it's observable
Bjj ranks are awarded completely subjectively unlike everything else
A karate style has objective standards of things you need to know to get a belt
Judo for example, you play Judo with a black belt there's an objective minimum standard you can expect to experience
Bjj you might have a blue belt that's a killer and the hardest roll you've had in weeks, and a black belt that's a total potato
And white belts that can employ Danahers entire ashi series, along with coral belts that don't know anything thing involving a knee reap because they've never taken off the gi in their lives

The only standard for getting a belt in bjj is the person you're learning from likes you enough to give you one
It's a gift not an achievement

The absence of an objective standard requiring competency in specific techniques, the only thing that matters is principle application';

'>>191601
I don't know if you have a wall or just open space, but if you do have a wall, use his linear motion to get his back close and than shoot a single. If only open space just crash in while they retract a strike and clinch up so you can hit a sweep or shoot a takedown from there';

'>>191479
i haven't trained for a month and it makes me think of how much I miss grabbing the feet of cute asian girls';

'>>193133
lucky my class is a bunch of fat guys, tattooed druggies, and old men on roids';

'Gonna start bjj soon, anything I can do to be more proactive about protecting myself from foot fungus and shit like that?';

'>>193169
if it's an issue that comes up it's the gyms fault, that's the first thing
aside from that make sure you at least wash your hands and face before leaving to go home and get in the shower quickly
I don't use the shower at the gym, but if you're extra nervous just get some anti-bacterial hand wipes and give yourself a rub down to hold you over until showering

and no don't by the jiujitsu branded ones that are $15 a container when you can just get the regular wet ones brand for $3.50 for the same amount';

'i fucking love body triangles from the back';

'>>193169
Shower ASAP after training. Wear long sleeve rashguards and spats if you want to minimize exposure.
>>193177
I've been using this arm switch a lot lately:
https://youtu.be/yS-OAywQ3GQ?si=-Lcfvuml0HMlpoYe&t=573';

'>>193220
>Wear long sleeve rashguards and spats
I hate the feeling of the long sleeves and spats but I haven't caught anything yet.';

'two things I want to say
#1 its bullshit that my gym has changed to doing biannual promotions instead of going person by person like it used to
all this is doing is putting a time gate instead of a skill gate which makes it worthless. I literally know the day I'll get a black belt because it's scheduled and thats gay

2nd thing
I need ecological games like kit dales instructionals if anyone can find them, I want to take a look at what a complete curriculum is like
ps. ecological games are literally just positional training no matter how much that smolders faggot or whatever his name is seethes about it';

'>>193420

>ecological system

Reeeeeeee

Really though, you don't need an instructional for this. Just figure out some games with different goals/restrictions. We do this all the time at open mats';

'>>192651
>Bjj ranks are awarded completely subjectively unlike everything else
nothing subjective about competition especially with a submission
>And white belts that can employ Danahers entire ashi series
these people are regarded as retards by anyone who knows what they're doing
>The absence of an objective standard requiring competency in specific techniques, the only thing that matters is principle application
which means you develop actual skills instead of checking off some karate nerds list';

'>>193437
nta
I think having a "checklist", as you describe it, would be quite beneficial to beginners as it would tell them exactly what to focus on.
It would also establish an actual curriculum, rather than the "random submission of the day" approach used by many schools which while not horrible is also not ideal.
Judo does it that way I think; to progress you need to both show proficiency in a specific set of techniques and show your competence in sparring';

'>>193472
to add,
>It would also establish an actual curriculum
this part would also be useful if you ever trained at different schools, because it would give them an idea of your abilities and knowledge beyond just "he can *probably* beat _-belts"';

'>>193430
Right but I just want to copy the ones someone else already figured out';

'>>193437
>these people are regarded as retards by anyone who knows what they're doing
It's left behind boomer cope
Those that can't do, will talk shit
"Fuckin punk heel hooked me, heh I bet he wouldn't have been able to do shit if I passed his guard tho"
Did you pass his guard?
"No because that fuckin punk heel hooked me, plus I didn't know we were doing leglocks, if I had known it would've been different"
Ok so now you know, go do it again
"Nah I don't roll with fuckin punks doing unsafe moves like that...fuckin punks"';

'>>193420
>its bullshit that my gym has changed to doing biannual promotions
Yes, yes it is, you should leave immediately and tell the owner exactly why.

>ecological games are literally just positional training
Agreed. People acting like they've reinvented the wheel, just friggin drill, spar, and positional spar.';

'>>193595
it's sunk cost, I don't really want to go somewhere else

well that's not really true, I want to move away from here. But until that happens I'm not going to go to a different club';

'>>191479
Every time I see this thread my cock gets hard and I feel like fapping to Asian feet. Fuck you faggot';

'>>193674
based';

'>>191479';

'>>191479
How'd y'all do at the Nashville open?';

'>>194025
what's the jiujitsu scene in tennessee
I need to find a place to move to and open a premier gym since I'm coming from a jiujitsu hotspot I'll be showing stuff 5 years ahead of whatever the community is doing';

'>>191479
>Thread question: What kind of amenities should a gym have?
Holes in the walls with this type of stuff sticking out of them.';

'>>193430
Start in cat dog
Start in dog fight
Start with your backs touching sitting down
Common normal positions';

'>>191479
Amenities, what are those?
I want training partners and an instructor
I trained at a shit hole (think original Daisy Fresh) that felt like an abandoned building. Only stopped because day class died.';

'>>194061
probably would've been able to support the day class if the gym wasn't a shithole';

'>>194082
That's a good point. Lmao
Take it up with the owner he doesn't care';

'It would be nice to offer things such as coffee and tea to members
Even if even if you have a little pay what you want donation box for people to drop a dollar into here and there to keep the supply stocked

Unfortunately it's not sustainable, people will take advantage
We tried to have water bottles fully stocked and free to take, and even said we appreciate if occasionally people want to bring in a case of water we'll throw it into the fridge
But we had to stop doing that because even though some people would bring in water, it was always the same few people that would dquit and everyone else would just take
Had to tell them stop bringing in water bottles for other people we aren't putting anything in the fridge anymore, they can bring their own waters

I guess you get what you deserve
Once you get to the point you're spending $100 every month to keep beverages in stock you gotta say this business expense isn't doing anything for me';

'>>193498
its unsafe because white belts dont know how to do it properly especially if they cant even master upper body subs
>>193472
>>193474
you realize what you need to learn and improve by training consistently. any instructor worth his salt can judge skill level by watching you roll(as they're also rolling)';

'>>191479
CHINKY FEET SEX SEX SEX COOOOOM';

'>>194637
>you realize what you need to learn and improve by training consistently. any instructor worth his salt can judge skill level by watching you roll(as they're also rolling)
I agree, I'm not saying that this approach is wrong.
I guess I just prefer having structure and something closer to objective standards.';

'I spent the last 2 months watching Craig Jones submission and position escape, I like learning on my own

What should look at next?';

'>>195117
If you like Craig, look at power ride. It'll totally change the way you look at grappling.

Power bottom is good as well.';

'>>195182
sounds good thanks, would you say his Systematic submission dilemmas would be good for a beginners?
I haven't really looked at submission before';

'>>195240
Honestly, no. It's all about failed triangles into leg entanglements and I'd highly recommend getting pretty decent at leg entries first. Down under leg locks is a great intro to the leg game.

I really wouldn't suggest power ride either if you're pretty new. It's not gonna be as useful if you don't have a solid positional game first. Look into some open guard or passing instructionals if you're pretty new. I was passing blue and purple belts pretty consistently as a white belt after watching some passing instructionals, especially wiltse's.';

'We have a situation here
I, a not black belt, am accidentally becoming a cult leader

People are really disaffected by the boomer tier instruction happening with all the shrimping and running laps and jumping jacks
Then here's 3 moves, ok now roll.
I just pay for the use of the mat space and training partners basically and I'm 100% teaching myself otherwise, the teacher has little of value to show me.
And well others have noticed I do my own thing and they're picking up what I'm putting down, and now they come to me to ask questions instead of the teacher
And I'm happy to help because the better they get the better I get but it's like there's a growing secret society and it's becoming noticeable. I'm getting texts and phone calls all day from people to talk about this stuff.
all of them individually have confided in how they feel their time is being wasted with all those dumb exercises the beginning of class, and how they are paying for instruction not to run laps, if they wanted to do that they would just go do it for free
The way I example principles is so much more valuable to them than the random moves they're taught every day.

I'm worried I'll get kicked out for treason soon though if I keep undermining the program and it becomes too obvious.
Folks are getting less good about even hiding it and just ask me questions with a black belt sitting right there';

'>>195292
Fuck that gym, bro. Join a different one.
No one should pay if there's little or no instruction.';

'>>195292
>I'm worried I'll get kicked out for treason soon though if I keep undermining the program and it becomes too obvious.
Why would they boot you? You're paying them to be their assistant.';

'>>195295
It's not that there's little instruction, it's the typical amount of instruction you'll find at bjj where like 1/3 is actually showing stuff and the rest is dumb exercises and free time
And a lot of the stuff you can tell is straight from a Danaher dvd because it's presented in the same order and if you've seen the DVD you know exactly what the next thing is going to be';

'>>195292
>this fucking guy again';

'>>195322
You know how peoples egos can get tied up in being the arbiter of secret knowledge (That's readily available on the internet) and he's gotten mad at people for getting together at someone's house to workout on home mats without getting his approval first
It's that kind of situation';

'I hear you guys are easy going and don't take yourselves too seriously over here';

'>>195332
>there are no "don't let them stand up" instructionals on fanatics

Oh nononono';

'>>195325
>he's gotten mad at people for getting together at someone's house to workout on home mats without getting his approval first
What his voiced concern related to insurance or the use of the name of his business?';

'>>195340
He was concerned the guy hosting was trying to secretly poach students';

'>>195332
Based';

'I had a weird experience training today. For context I've been training 5 years and not spazzy, never had complaints.

I rolled with the blue belt girl. She was going pretty hard but I still dialed down my strength. Passed her guard easily and basically just positionally dominated her, even after allowing her to escape and sweep me once.

The more the roll went on she spazzed even harder and was almost screaming. Round ended and she just turned her back, I said thanks for the roll and she just shook her head at me. I asked what was wrong and she snapped "I don't want to talk".

Did I do something wrong or is she just salty that she couldn't beat me?';

'>>195441
Some people just have lousy days. It probably has nothing to do with you. I saw a purple belt rage quit at an in house tournament once. And I had a black belt get pissy with me because he didn't like how hard I was gripping his collar to defend an ankle lock, so he transitioned to a heel hook and then heel hooked me again immediately after I tapped. Doesn't mean he's a bad person, just means he had a bad night. He's been cool with me every other time.

And hey, even if it is a pattern and she's just constantly pissy, you can only take what she gives you. If she wants to get overwrought during rolls then that's what she needs to work on. You just need to be steady and consistent, IMHO.';

'>>195441
Might be frustration. Getting crushed because the other person is just that much bigger and stronger than you feels like shit
I would know, I'm typically the smallest person in the class, for me every roll is a fight for survival';

'>>195289
Shout out Wiltse's instructionals. Wrestle Up was the best butterfly and X-guard instructional that my blue belt Marcelo wannabe ass could've asked for.';

'>>195441
Nothing you wrote indicates you did anything wrong. I would try to give her space to get over whatever's going on in her woman brain so you don't become the target of any nonsense.
>is she just salty that she couldn't beat me?
Could be that, could be she's got issues she's trying to work through regarding physical contact with men.';

'>>195441
Just proves the only reason we even allow women on the mat is to show off their fussy
They aren't real competitors';

'just thinking about the time when I'm stuffing a shot by pushing down on the back of the head, and for context I'm just a stuff master like unless your wrestling level is legitimately good, not just bjj good but wrestling good, don't even try it because you aint getting my legs

anyway so I stuff a shot and then a crusty middle aged TRT juice junky black belt with coffee breath tells me my completely successful stuff was wrong "you gotta do it like this" and he proceeds to show a C grip on the back of the neck to push the head down
objectively he's wrong, but gotta be respectful and not argue "ok thank you"

then I stuff another shot later on and he's in the peanut gallery HEY YOU'RE NOT DOING WHAT I TOLD YOU!
ok..
so then for the rest of class I had to do it the wrong shitty way he insisted upon and wouldn't you know it, I wasn't stopping the singles anymore

abolish belts';

'This is what happens when Judo faces against pure BJJ but scooting faggotry
Pottery
I think she even ended it with a kimura I think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Gz6GutqIg';

'>>195519
It's hard to find matches online now because there's a whole bjj youtuber sphere with uppity blue belts thinking they're worth something BJJ VS JUDO EXPERT ROLLING COMMENTARY';