'Reminder none of you dumb faggots are ordering 1 bottle of test at a time and you’re all risking jail time';

'>>74071426
You are all mentally ill. I wish you the best.';

'>>74071446
So what? That’s possession at worst. Order domestic and don’t go sign for a package, it’s almost impossible to fuck up.
>>74071447
Yes.';

'Day 3 of cut. FUCK do I love cutting bros, eating is the biggest chore. Ankle pumps from var for a 10 minute mile run were debilitating.
>mon- upper (OHP, BB row mains)
>tues- lower
>wedns- cardio/forearms/calves
>thurs- upper (bench, pullup mains)
>fri- lower
>sat- cardio/forearms/calves
>sun- cardio/forearms/calves
Taking 25mg var and 125mg test, at a 1k calorie deficit for 8 weeks. Will add bag work and boxing conditioning in aboht a month when my cardio is back up to par and a mile run doesn’t kill me';

'>>74071446
Not a single soul has ever gotten arrested for ordering steroids off the internet lmao';

'>>74071476
This is a blatant lie are you actually retarded? Or are you the natty guy who lies on here to fuck with people';

'>>74071446
I know this is bait but what is the actual likelihood of something coming of it? The laws in my country even protect the buyer kek';

'>>74071478
>this is a blatant lie
then prove me wrong faggot';

'>>74071426
if you aren't benching 4pl8 plus on peds, you're literally retarded and would've been better staying natty

inb4 cope. actually train instead of doing baby weight on cable flys';

'>>74071478
You’re too much of a baby to do this. Just go away, man.';

'>>74071464
looks tasty but wtf are you even saying? is this roidtranny slang?';

'>>74071509
And your head is completely in the sand kek';

'>>74071446
I sold tren ace to a boomer state police captain, the dumb boomer couldn't figure out how to get it online. Lmaoing at your pussified existence.
>>74071507
>hit 4pl bench
>realize barbell bench is shit for aesthetics
I like the chest press machine better, normies think you're a god tier if you press 5pls on it lol
>>74071464
>VAR VAR PUMPS
How are you guys fucking up your electrolytes and salt intake? I have overdosed janoshik tested var and I have never had anything resembling what people meme about bad var pumps.

Also pls get some sauce for dat rice.';

'>>74071536
You’re the one making a mountain outnof a mole hill. Where do you live? In the states there’s virtually zero chance anythjng will happen unless you’re importing raws or hundreds of vials.
>>74071622
It wasn’t bad until running. Also hot sauce and soi sauce for rice. I ain’t DUMB.';

'>>74071447
I may be mentally ill but my depression has gone away significantly since I started taking testosterone';

'>>74071654
>test
>cymbalta
>remeron for sleep
>ketamine IV once a month
I never thought I wouldn’t be suicidal';

'>>74071446
It's legal to buy any amount of test in Canada
:-)';

'>>74071704
Not worth it bro';

'>>74071725
Except it is though';

'>>74071767
I meant living in Canada isn’t worth it. Fuck Canada, they’re speedrunning the dystopian hellhole route';

'>>74071779
Oh yes as a Canadian I can confirm you are correct. People are finally starting to hate Trudeau though.';

'Incoming bloodz

Been doing a slow/steady cut for about 6 weeks now on 250 test (2x/wk inj) + 25var/day. Sex drive hasn’t been where it should be (but this could be my sleep routine being up in the air, bouncing at a club part time)

High e2 is from a round of HCG I did, that I’ll fix by lowering test to 180 and the HCG to 250iu twice a week. Lipids being slightly outta whack from the var, but anything to be done about the SHBG? Already switched to less frequent injections

Is high creatinine kinase that big a deal when /frauding/?';

'>>74071791
What y’all are doing with medically assisted suicide is demonic.
>nationalize healthcare
>give suicide as a treatment option if you’re too expensive to take care of or if they’re unable to figure out what to do with you

Satanic shit.';

'>>74071797';

'>>74071797
How’s your cut going? That’s basically exactly what I’m doing but I’ll get bloods after I’m off var in aboht 6 weeks';

'>>74071797
>>74071836
Great. Even the low dose var makes a noticeable difference and my strength has gone up in a 500kcal deficit
Way more vascularity+fullness too';

'>>74071809
Well I used to work as an RN in community care - we didn't administer this as it was a catholic organization but would provide palliative care to people who later received it. None of that is accurate.';

'>>74071914
There have been a lot of things written about it. They were voting to legalize assisted suicide for the mentally ill earlier this year but it didn’t pass. Literally culling the most vulnerable group of people in your society.

Canada has the most loosey goosy approach to medically assisted suicide. People are offered suicide as a treatment option';

'>>74071426
Ok so where do yall fine faggots be getting yo mussle drugs at?
Cuz i wanna buy some.';

'>>74071965
www.dea.gov';

'>>74071464
Taking Var on run days is masochistic. Take Winstrol instead.';

'>>74071965
Lemonparty.org';

'>>74072025
I take it at night cause I was trying to avoid this lol. I have no interest in winny and ouchie joints';

'>>74072043
Low dose NPP or Deca would help alleviate that.';

'>>74072072
>deca and cardio
I’m not trying to grow my heart bro';

'>>74072087

Anti-Grinch motherfucker.';

'>>74072099
Kek. I fuck with the grinch!';

'>>74071447
>I wish you the best
Thanks brother
Genuinely wishing you the best and some damn good gains';

'>>74072169';

'>>74072039
How is this still a thing? This was around when I was in high school in 2002';

'>>74071797
>>74071833
>>74071886

Can a nigga get a look-see?

Or a solid resource on bloods that isn’t the medical complex “ahh, you’re test is 201 and the range is 200-900 so you’re PERFECTLY healthy”';

'>>74072169
you forgot the third retard that’s too fucking stupid to find a source on his own and comes to fraud to complain about not posting sources';

'>>74072270
nice projection. sorry that happened to you';

'>>74071478
While a few people have been arrested for ordering roids it’s few enough that I’ve literally never worried about it. I used to order meth from a chemical factory in China (about 50g at a time, for personal use only) for years and never had any issues. I don’t think they’re really checking unless someone actual rats you out.';

'need usa domestic

[email protected]

will buy you shit or suck edick';

'>>74073047
>meth
>50g at a time
>for personal use only
This is the level of anon's that are on this board.';

'>>74073117
Cunt you can use a search engine and set up an email account. Wtf do you need /fraud/ for? LITERAL RETARD.';

'>>74073173
>Cunt you can use a search engine and set up an email account.

search engines are not going to turn up illegal roid websites';

'>>74071426
Danny Devito is natty though';

'>>74073218
They’re in the clearnet you dummy';

'>>74073308
>They';

'>>74071965
eroids';

'>>74073242
>Danny Devito is natty though
So naive...';

'>>74073164
that's like 2 grand of meth I think.';

'>>74071446
>t. never ordered drugs off the internet
You realize that you just simply never sign for a package right? That's literally all you have to do and you will never have issues. Retard or bait, can't tell.';

'>>74071797
Sorry I can't help anon but question for you. I also use quest and have got my bloods ordered thru my doctor/insurance in the past, so I've hardly paid anything out of pocket outside of like $70. I only get test and test free tho plus a bunch of other shit...

How much do you pay out of pocket for lipids and the hormone panel you did (SHBG, test free, total, bioavailable, and estradiol)?';

'>>74073660
Even in bulk at rock-bottom prices it’s like $6-10k in dollarydoos thoughever straight from China is bound to be cheaper.';

'>>74073991
What are you talking about? That’s less than two ounces of meth. You can get a ball for $150 (on the pricey side), and deals all the way up. It’s $2000 max, more like $1500';

'Welp
My shipment got seized kek
:*-)';

'Bout to do my first injection just test. But it’s pretty late at night. Will it cause any issues?';

'>>74074073
...are you asking if doing it at night will cause issues? No';

'>>74074076
Why are elipsis so condescending…now I have no idea if you’re being an asshole. I’m asking if injections will cause an immediate effect that will make it hard to fall asleep. Like a sugar rush feeling or a constant nagging pain/discomfort at the injection site.';

'>>74074113
It's intentionally condescending because your question is so vague.

Even then, no. Won't matter what time of day you do it. It's just gonna be a lil sore but only when you use whatever muscle you're injecting to.';

'What causes the muscle adaptation to not get sore after injecting after a few times?';

'>>74074245
I thought It was pretty clear what I meant unless you actually thought I was asking if it changed how it works or something. I mean if I had asked if I should do tren or clen at night it’d be pretty clear what I was asking no? But whatever';

'>>74074309
You’re too stupid for this. Don’t do it.';

'>>74071809
Make no mistake, this is the plan and direction of the entire world. Canada is one of the testing grounds for global policies
The absolute last bastion stopping total control is the 2nd amendment
NEVER LET THEM TAKE YOUR GUNS
When they hard try, and they will, I'll join you fuckers taking out these satanic freaks';

'Is EQ ez to brew?';

'>>74074073
>Will it cause any issues?
Actually, yes
If you, say, inject a cc into your glute and then head straight to bed you're going to be in a world of PIP
There's a reason people inject either before a shower or before the gym';

'>>74074073
Yes. You will go to prison. Steroids are ILLEGAL.';

'>>74073660
>>74073991
It was $800 and I payed with a credit card in my name every time. This was back in 2010 or so and I was profoundly addicted and didn’t care if I got caught. Some of the labs would cook up any molecule you sent them without asking any questions. It really was for personal use because I didn’t leave the house much at that point and alienated even the craziest tweakers. Good times until came out of a k-hole covered in third degree burns.';

'I was trying other shit and have two bottles of test-e that have been sitting in my closet for a year and a half. Never pierced. How safe would it be to use them?';

'>>74074507
>How safe would it be to use them?
You're g2g';

'Thoughts on primo?';

'After years struggling with low t symptoms and no help from doctors in my country because, and I quote, "285ng/dl is perfectly normal for a man in his 20s" I finally ordered aTest Cyp Vial.

I was thinking 150-200mg/week split into two injections, one every 60 hours. Is it a good TRT dose? Do I have to take anything else or can I cruise with just low dose T for months on end? I'm not even worried about ball shrinkage since my jewels are already pretty small, so there's that.';

'>>74075759
>60 hours
I meant 94, every 3.5 days';

'>>74071426
Dbol pwo or split dose every 3-4 hours';

'>>74075759
You can go up to 250mg/week for the rest of your life with no ill effects. Its a high range TRT dose.';

'>>74071446
Steroids aren't illegal to buy or use in my country. Or most countries for that matter.';

'>>74073218
Lol yes they do';

'>>74071833
>>74071886

Thanks for posting. I have a bunch of questions

>250 of Test gave you 67 E2?
>How much HCG were you taking too?
>Are you taking an AI?
>Did the var tank your HDL?

I hope you are also posting these bloods somewhere you'll get a credit and not just on here for free.';

'>>74075759
100mg/wk or 50mg monday evening/friday morning aka e3.5d, took me from 300 to 900.
It's sorta personal tho, depends on the why possibly.
People get HCG prescribed but its not required by any means.
You should buy enough for a real 16 week cycle at 500mg/wk though, along with AI. Then cruise on 100-200 in between. That's what most TRTfags do anyway so may as well skip the intervening steps.';

'>>74076166
I bought a 10ml vial at 250mg/ml, enough for 25 weeks at 100mg. I'm really not interested in a real cycle, even if it's a light one at 500mg, really just looking to improve my mood, libido and body composition without having too much of a roller coaster.';

'>planning test only cycle, 500mg @ 20 weeks
>no hcg but nolva pct
considering adding var because on one hand I wanna get the most bang for my buck on my first cycle, but I'm also hesitant because less stuff = safer';

'>>74076402
Just run var, its pretty mild, and gives great pumps. 30-50mg preworkout on days you lift only and thank me later. Doing this exact cycle right now.';

'>>74076539
>days you lift only
I lift every day';

'>>74076006
Pwo

>>74076022
False';

'>>74076671
>False
Not that guy, but for some guys it's fine. Anyways you're a small, overweight, literal faggot with bad advice who needs to lift/eat/sleep better. Stop posting as if you're an authority when you roid to the gills and you look natty';

'Reposting because I'm about to pull the trigger:

I want to start cycling enclomiphene, however the source I have, which I trust, only carries Clomid (clomiphene).

A google search tells me that these aren’t the same and Clomid is actually a mix, and particularly zuclomefine might have some unneeded side effects. I’m thinking I might have to find another source for just enclomiphene. Anyone have any suggestions?';

'>>74077342

I suggest you just pin test and save your eyes. I don't fucking with xlomid because it wrecks people's eyes and I don't fuck with enclo because it's often fake.';

'>>74073991
where lmao, 6g in canuck funny money?
>>74074048
works on my machine
>>74077342
>I'M TOTALLY DOING TIHS GUYYYS
>wants oral only shit
lol
>>74077099
People choose arbitrary numbers for no fucking, some guys can take 250mg test and get high end natty level natty levels. It's a flip of the dice what it'll be for you. MPMD has tainted so much of the online discussion for this shit.';

'>>74077355
>>74077484
I'm avoiding test because I don't want to fuck up my balls. I already have some ED without ever cycling and I don't need that much of a boost.

I'll just stick with enclomiphene. Thanks guys';

'>>74077484
He said 300 test e or 250 test prop (more test per mg on prop ester) to start with then titrate up after a few weeks iirc.';

'>>74077558
Sorry may have misread your comment, half asleep. Thought you were referring to his ideal first cycle.';

'>>74077099
>but for some guys it's fine
No proof

>>74077484
>some guys can take 250mg test and get high end natty level natty levels
No one has good bloods at 250 test
If their total test is fine their free test is sky high
If their free test is fine their e/shbg is fucked
If all those numbers are fine they still have erythrocytosis

The only possible amount of injectable test that is healthy is up to 150 mg a week
But even that is highly debatable';

'>>74077541
>I'll just stick with enclomiphene
>thinking constantly fucking with your estrogen receptors is any safer
Kek';

'>>74077617
>No proof
Prove you're not a small, overweight, literal faggot with bad advice who needs to lift/eat/sleep better';

'>>74077635
If I gave a fuck about safety I wouldn't be here. It's about tradeoff risk. If enclomiphene fucks me I'll start blasting full tren because it won't matter anymore';

'>>74077649
>going from encloshit to tren
Nice bait';

'>>74077649
Ok bro gl;hf';

'Well im about to start taking hcg after being on trt cruise for ten years and not taking it.

Running 300mg a week test and gonna do between 350 or 500 hcg.

I want to cum dump loads into my wife.';

'>>74077649
you won't do shit nigger';

'>>74077996
HCG doesn't increase loads, also after 10 years it's really over noballs nigger';

'>>74076402
5 weeks into my first cycle and its 500mg test and 40mg var plus daily tadalafil
gained about 10 lbs, body fat same as at start by skin caliper, lifts all up, libido high. mood good
recovery is noticeably better but nothing insane
pumps in general are pretty crazy
cardio is much harder, not only due to leg pumps making my feet go pins and needles but just more difficult in general, switched to long intervals instead of straight LISS cardio with no problems
nipples got itchy, started feeling emotional around week 4 so started AI then
don't regret it at all, wouldn't change a thing, learned a lot and made decent progress where i was pretty much stalled before
test+anavar is good times';

'>>74077640
blastfaggot said Mast lowers your e2, then links a PLEBBIT thread and in that thread the reddit faggots contradict his statement.';

'>>74078218
Mast just prevents gyno';

'>>74078289
precisely, drops water too. So people assume it drops estrogen like a ai would. Doesn't, your dick can still stop working if you don't lower your e2 on a mast blast.';

'>>74071464
That's TRT and a minimally effective does of var. Why so little? Take 50 or 75 split over 2-3 daily doses. Then you can start cooking a bit.';

'>>74077640
So yeah no proof

>>74077649
This might just be the dumbest post that's ever been posted in a /fraud/ thread
Congrats on this
Seriously

>>74077996
Gonna need to run way more HCG and gonna need to lower your test
I say that as someone who just did extensive research not only with studies but enough empirical data
Test should be at most like 125 a week with HCG for HCG to have enough of an effect of bringing back your balls
And HCG should be at least 2000 IU a week pharma (so like 4000+ IU a week ugl cause they can't store their raws properly)

>>74078038
>HCG doesn't increase loads
It literally does
It's simple enough to find studies that show it increases both sperm count and semen volume
Not to mention empirical data is massive on both counts';

'>>74073642
What am I looking at here';

'>>74078525
Jeets in the gym';

'is
125-250 test
200-300 tren a
and 100-200 primo a good stack for a cut?
Never cut on gear before but have experience in all 3 drugs';

'27 yo
Test 646ng/l
Free test 83pg/ml
SHBG 45nmol/l

Should I get on TRT?';

'>>74078776

Lol no. Those are fine numbers even for your age. No one under 40 should go on trt anyway. Everyone over 40 should though.';

'>>74078072
welcome to the party pal. Up the salt intake to help with pumps, don't overdose the tada or you'll get acid reflux. Have fun bro.
>>74078733
I'm running roughly similar except with mast and some orals. I had 3/4 primo bottle from a batch extra so I started pinning it, it's me. Run test as low as you want, and stack ontop everything for the low water look.

ADD MAST, it's great.
>>74078776
Fuck TRT, blast.';

'is it worth going on TRT for very low total but normal free T?

i have 180 ng/dl total t
about 14pg/ml free t
dhea-s above 600
and less than 10 nmol/l shbg

what is bloodwork like this indicative of? would having really high free T bring side effects from trt doses?

not obese and my levels are like this even when i am eating clean and exercising. hoping that trt would boost energy and focus';

'>>74078524
>It literally does
It's nothing compared to natty loads';

'how bad is using nicotine on a test cycle?
will it royally fuck my blood pressure or is it fine as long as I keep doing cardio and eat decent?';

'>start cycle
>get bronchitis';

'>>74079222
I'm on test only and smoke around a pack a day and my BP is within norm, but I do stairmaster every day and always walk 4km home from the gym, idk how do other compounds come into play here';

'>>74078072
Holy shit someone who's actually gonna make it. Keep up the good work, fampai.';

'>>74078524
>just did extensive research not only with studies but enough empirical data
Plx spoonfeed links, tripfagbro.';

'>>74079393
I'm getting back into cardio now (not on cycle yet) and plan to be doing it daily by the time I do start so that's some relief, also a walker because I never got my license lol
I'm debating anavar but I love my snus so I might stick to just test the first time
cheers';

'>>74079393
>>74079583
>kills your pump
Nothing personal bro';

'>>74078421
Cardio and conditioning is my focus at the moment. Running on 25mg var is already hard';

'Currently on 250mg test, 1500iu hcg (about to increase to 2000iu) 5mg day cialis, 10mgs dbol pre workout. This is pretty good.

>>74078540
I see the jeans now';

'>>74080050
>2k hcg
>dbol
>test

Estrogen heaven, nigger transition';

'Did anyone start a cycle with an initially high test levels? I’m at 800 now but kind of hit a limit. When/if I recover would j likely return to the same levels or no? I know it’s impossible to say for sure, but in general does recovery mean same as before?';

'>>74080038
If your pumps are painful, it's because your sodium intake is low asf. I've said it twice so far in this thread, and I said again today at the gym to one of my bois at the gym who's running mast and var.
>>74080386
Doesn't matter, you can find studies on men blasting test and come off and have even higher base levels afterwards.';

'>>74080148
I was on the Estrogen stack
>500mg test
>1000IUs hCG
>175mg dbol
>finasteride

It was pretty comfy';

'>>74071464
Recipe brah';

'>>74071934
You can either kys or become a tranny in canada, those are your health options';

'>>74080470
How much added sodium homie? Should I eat like a gram of salt in water before working out?
>>74080549
8c chicken stock 4c rice in the cooker, McCormick grill seasonings (I just mix and match), olive oil salt and pepper on broccolini oven broiler in high';

'>>74076109
The lab I source from is only issuing credit for “blasts” right now. Bummer.

250test and 250iuHCG(x3 a week) gave me that e2, correct. I’m prob around 12-13% body fat too. Test itself I can do 300mgs+ with no AI but adding HCG really bumps my estrogen. Lucky in some areas, not so much others, such is life';

'>>74079440
>Plx spoonfeed links, tripfagbro.
I didn't save all the links unfortunately but here's a couple things I ran into that's really interesting...

First is this
It's not actually just the figure but you need to read the caption below but basically it shows serum HCG is half at 48 hrs from pin of what it was at 24 hours from pin
Meaning if you want stable serum HCG you really need to pin it at least once a day since the half life is 24 hours';

'>>74079440
>>74081011
Second is this combination of diagrams

Basically the study didn't have enough participants hence the shitty scatter plot
And we can see that even though the 500 IU HCG group raised their itt it only got raised to the average of the 250 IU
So what would have happened if the 250 IU group actually got 500?
Would they still have increased ITT?
We don't know
But to play it safe, 500 IU EOD which is 1750 per week should be the minimum amount of (pharma) HCG we run';

'>2 for 1 Ben and Jerry’s at meijer
UH OH. I’m at 1k calories and 126g protein for the day, cutting at 2200 cals. Yogurt and fruit and a protein shake will get me there OR a pint of ice cream.

Wat do';

'Damn bros I know it's cliche, but this PIP for a pin nooby is brutal, I'm swelling up a lot, and it's sore. Really hope this chills out. I'm on my 5th pin Sat and I rotate delts and VG (obviously rotate each side too).';

'>>74081155
How many times a week bro?';

'>>74081173
Twice a week and it's 1ml/250mg test each pin. I figure I could pin more often but I'm such a noob that it generally takes me 30+ mins to get the courage to do it. I know I'm a pussy and all that, but I'd really rather ride this out, get used to it, and keep at this frequency.';

'>>74071965
chyna';

'>>74081182
Oh. Man I exclusively pin VG with a 25g needle and have been off and on for almost a decade, no scar tissue. Hitting the delt is hard to keep the needle straight and still so you’ll have worse pip. I can hold the syringe with both hands on the VG to keep it steady';

'How many of you have a +4pl8s bench? Genuinely curious.';

'>>74081194
225x10, 315x1 at 190 5’11. Currently cutting to 180';

'>>74081201
you can seriously only rep 225 for 10 while having 315 as a 1 rep max? that doesn't add up';

'>>74073642
Sanpaku Jeet is the coolest';

'>>74081214
That was max with a spotter at the peak of bull, I’ve been at a 1k calorie deficit for a couple weeks and the 10 reps at 225 was today no spotter';

'>>74081192
Good to know thanks. I also use 25G and go pretty straight in (or at least try to). Sounds like it should just go away with time. How much oil do you usually pin?';

'>>74081313
Yeah I’m not sure the specific adaptation that occurs in the body but the pip definitely goes away as you keep at it.

I’ve gone up to 1.5mL but I’m cruising so .5';

'>>74080773

Thanks for the info. Best of luck on the cut. May the sluts be all over you.

I'm about to up cruise. I'm currently on 120 with 700iu hcg a week. Getting bloods from quest next week. Depending on my E2 I'll either go 300mg test or 200mg Test/100 Primo.

I don't want to do full on blast because it's running season. Come winter I'm going to go nuts.';

'>>74081194
Dealing with coming back from an injury now but I was up to 425 lbs on bench before I got hurt.';

'>>74071426
Why dont you homos never talk sauce? You guys realize fake or low quality product may kill the user? Dont you care about fellow homos health?';

'>>74081377
Retarded';

'>>74081377
Not particularly, no.';

'>>74081377
Jannies here are fags and it's a good thing there's a barrier to entry because it's insanely easy to find if you have an ounce of computer skills.';

'>>74081192
>no scar tissue
I don't believe you
I can count the number of pins I've done with a 25 gauge in my glutes in a months worth of days and yet there's scar tissue there

>>74081194
Got close but never got there
But I've also never been over like 205 lbs

>>74081214
Sure it does
225 is between 70-75% of 315 as a 1RM

>>74081377
Real reason?
Because if you're too dumb to find quality gear, especially test, in 2024 of all years
Then you're too dumb to pin';

'>>74081792
Never noticed any crunchiness when injecting, just goes right in.';

'Should I start pinning lats? I do delts and sometimes vgs';

'>>74081971
>Should I start pinning lats?
No. Pinning lats is actually pretty bad. You can end up with nerve damage and looking like Big Ramy in 2022.';

'>>74082017
Kek alright';

'>>74078072
hell yeah good shit, im 2 weeks in to this exact same cycle and its my first ever, very inspiring and exciting';

'>>74081792
do you recommend a 27g needle then? I'm injecting 1ml of oil every time and it already takes about 30 seconds or so';

'So at what point do you have so much mass it’ll melt away post cycle? It seems like way more of it stays than I expected going in.';

'>>74082139
Why would you even start gear if you knew you will come off? That's fucking retarded.';

'>>74082190
it's not';

'>>74075759
>>74076022
I cruise in 350mg/wk and I feel fine';

'>>74078072
nice
how long are you taking the var for?
I'm doing the same thing except I can't decide between 30 days of 40mg/day or 60 days of 20mg/day';

'>>74080148
Also adex obviously';

'>>74081011
>>74081025
Yeah I was aware of all this. Irregardless, cheers for offering your insight/resopnding to my request, tripfagbro. Today I will not tell you to kys.';

'>>74082869
responding*
f*dge sakes.';

'>>74077649
i hate you zoomoid zero self-awareness creatures so fucking much
>you won't do shit
and if by some miracle you do, guaranteed your goldfish attention span fried shrimp brain will ensure you fuck it up';

'>>74081194
I can do 4 pl8 but I didn’t push it any further. I just go for reps and feeling the muscle now.';

'are there any substances/peptides I should be taking as a natty? I know it sounds like oxymoron, but Im still interested about some drugs that might make you healthier/extend your lifespan. Im not that big on getting big. Are there things like that? I understand that some of those might be risky/require additional bloodwork, those are fine.';

'>>74083270
no';

'my packages get left with the office in my apartment
do most labs package stuff well enough that they won't hear glass clattering or should I just tell them to mind their business if they ask questions?';

'>>74083340
>no
oh, thats too bad... Im taking ozempic, modafinil, semax, bpc-157, some meme supplements like apigenin and the like. I wonder if hgh-like derivatives might do me any good (like GHRP or something).';

'>>74071464
>25mg of var
>125mg of test

Are you a women? Gotta pump those numbers up Nigger.';

'>>74083397
Epitalon
TB-500
MK-677
Low Dose Naltrexone
Methylene Blue
Glycine';

'>>74083397
Ozempic isnt natty';

'>>74083415
Also pregnenolone lowers cortisol so it's good if ur stressed';

'>>74083415
>Glycine
already taking it, Ill look into the rest, thank you

>>74083416
>Ozempic isnt natty
I figured as much, its supposed to make my lifespan longer, and Im gonna roll with some risks here and there';

'>>74075759
Do everyday injections, it minimizes sides.
Also get on hCG, just to protect your fertility.
Start out at 150mg make sure you like how you're responding then up it to 200mg/ wk. Good luck anon.';

'>>74083435
Based good luck lifespan maxxer anon';

'>>74082375
How's your bloods?
I did this for a while and stayed pretty healthy.
Currently on 200mg/wk';

'>>74083397
>hgh like derivatives

You are referring to secretalogues that spur endogenous production. The first thing to bear in mind is $ for iu of hgh, exogenous hgh is cheaper. You will get a 1 to 1.5 boost per day from secretalogues.

That said there are two types, GHRP and GRHH, growth hormone releasing peptides/hormones. Ideally you want to take one of each. They synergize.

>GRHH
Tesamorelin 1mg/day -> actually FDA approved (only one), mild effect, very expensive unless you can source bulk from China, better for visceral fat loss
CJC w/ or w/o DAC 200/mcg day-> DAC had longer half life but might kill you, waaaaay cheaper, better for preserving muscle

>GHRP
GHRP 2 OR 6 -> 6 is the OG, 2 is newer. 6 is stronger but has more sides like insulin resistance and hunger. Don't know the dosage
Ipamorelin 200mcg/day -> latest Gen GHRP, increased energy, awesome sleep, faster recovery, no sides. Basically everyone uses this one

There are others, I don't know shit about them. I've used Tesa to counteract visceral fat gain from AAS bulk. Now I use CJC no DAC and Ipa.

Take 2 hours after you eat. Take it right before you go to sleep. Sleep is when your body produces the most hgh so you will get the best bang for your buck';

'>>74075759
start with 150mg and see how it feels before jumping higher.
take some hcg too, not too much or your estrogen will spike, I only do 500iu a week';

'took var today for the first time. since the morning I've been building up this extreme horniness. at the gym in the AM, I couldn't stop staring at ass and getting bonners. specially at the fucking hoe I like, that has a boyfriend. the fucking hoe keeps looking at me and bending her fucking ass. now I cannot stop thinking about pussy. Eating it and fucking it in all kinds of ways.
I'm seriously thinking about going for a happy ending massage, but my dick is severely hurt from so much flapping, so I'm doing a nofap, which is not optimal for my current situation.
youre going to say get a gf. Sure, last week I gave my phone to a girl that works at the supermarket I go to for her to type her number. we've been talking about interesting stuff. she gave me a fucking fake number.
I'm so horny but have no pussy to destroy.';

'>>74081194
I was lifting for years and stuck at 120kg max for the last 2 years before I hopped on test. My total T was 200ng/dl at the time...
I've been on TRT since October, never done a proper blast but I can now bench press 150kg max so that's a 30kg increase only from TRT in half a year or so. Kinda crazy how important hormones are to lifting.
Hoping to get to 4pl8 in a year or 2, considering doing a blast next time I bulk, currently cutting.';

'>>74081099
Late answer for the digits (checked)
Go with yogurt, protein and berries
Ice cream is for a refeed meal, not part of a normal cut day
>cutting at 2200 cals
Seems low';

'>>74083932
>took var today
>retarded nonsense for the rest of the post
lmao';

'>>74083977
you know what's more fucked? I thought she was interested in me. we had a thing where every time we saw eachother, we continued the conversation from the last week. bro I was trembling, trembling! but I grew some balls and asked for it. fuck man... I would never imagine she would gave me a fake number. why didn't she just say no?';

'>>74084153
Who cares? Stop being a faggot and move on.';

'>>74083932
jesus dude seek help idk if you can handle PEDs';

'HGH yay or nay? Talk to me fraud';

'>>74080773
That bitch is nasty with no ass bro. You're cycling way too hard jf you think that's hot. Lol';

'>>74081025
How much converts into estrogen. How much ai is needed. I use aromasin/exemestane.';

'>>74084153
>we continued the conversation
>goes home and posts online about it.

She deserves better. Act like a fucking man.';

'>>74083977
>>74084278
Kek this anon needs Tren >>74083932 >>74084153';

'Can I run 500 test blast for 7 months or is that too long';

'So after being told by my doctors surgery im dying my kidneys are fucked after seeing the specialist its not even that bad I lost all that weight for nothing but cool thing is Ive getting legit script for telesmartan which is an amazing drug all top people use which will be sweet as its free so im trying to figure out how to get a script for hgh. I might try and ask if I can use it to try and repair my kidney filtration and get off use prescription as the nephrologist was a cool guy I took my shirt off and he was like yeah the creatine test isnt worth using for yo lol did most muscular and ab flex then went and got bloods for cystatin c test as thats the one thatll me if im mega fucked, but he did say my kidney function is that of a 60year old and im half that lmao .';

'>>74082869
>Today I will not tell you to kys.
T-thanks
Y-you t-too
:-s

>>74084441
Bro estrogen range and conversion is so individual doesn't matter whether it's test or HCG or even deca/tren

Impossible for someone to answer that for you with no labs+feels/sides logbook';

'>>74084788
Too long for what?
Gains?
Yeah
They'll plateau around 4 months then you'll just be spinning your wheels making smol gains when you could have just done two 10ish week blasts in the same timeframe';

'>>74084405
Pretty individual dependant
Could be the missing piece of the puzzle for you especially if you're over 30

Give it a shot you'll know if it's worth it for you if you even only take it for 30 days';

'How is anavar 'tissue selective'? Does that mean it affects DHT receptors in certain parts of the body or what. Am I retarded? Stack for retardation? Weighing up anavar vs DHT to try and fix my microcock.';

'>>74084885
At least you're not dying.... much quicker than the rest of us. Congrats!';

'>>74084977
>Weighing up anavar vs DHT to try and fix my microcock.
>Am I retarded?
Yes';

'>>74085029
Yeah, but';

'>>74085036
But what?';

'>>74085081
? You tell me.';

'>>74085107
No, cunt, go fuck yourself. It should be self-explanatory why you're plan is fucktarded.';

'>>74085130
your*
holy f*dging f*dge.';

'>>74084977
Use DHB or become a tranny';

'>>74085145
OK, DHB it is.

Nah I'll try DHT and if I get bad sides stop it.';

'Fuck me how is this board so amazingly fucking retarded?';

'>>74085183
It's 6am and I'm bored.';

'>>74085191
Wrong! It's 2am and yeah this place is so slow when you don't come here for awhile. Good to know I didn't type out a long post of possible advice as a response though before you let me know it was just boredom. Phew.';

'>>74085200
I'm still serious. I am going to get DHT gel for my weewee. Why not? If I start to go bald I stop it and fin or minox. I'm going on cycle anyway so might as well make it interesting.';

'If I've been cruising on 250mg test per week for 2 years with zero bad effects, consistent gains, feeling great but have never done bloods - am I severely fucking up?';

'>>74085209
Think it unlikely to work much though I do know it's commonly prescribed for micro-cock condition. The increased blood flow and raised Test from the combo of the two might do a little maybe? If you're serious I reckon it's worth looking into that Vitamin D study that used to get circled here where a bunch of dudes took heroic doses of that and recorded their results. Could even do it on top of everything else + Cialis for maximum blood flow/pump. For the cycle just run Test or Test+hcg at first then if you want to and can manage the sides chuck var in for the last 5 weeks (assuming you're doing a 12 week cycle). Prolly the safest way to go about it I'd imagine.';

'>>74085236
>have never done bloods
>am I severely fucking up?
Prolly, if you'd bothered to do bloods then you wouldn't need to ask this question at least.';

'>>74085248
I looked into the study and IIRC it was done by a vitamin D company which I know is common, but it was super small and didn't look at any mechanisms or have a ton of control so I don't put much into it. Probably 20 week cycle since I'm not front loading, but I guess DHT is the front load anyway. I was thinking var but I've heard it's faked often and was going to opt HGH instead also for the repair. Thanks for the advice. Also gonna get cialis for the pump, but 5mg just to not fuck my bp too much.';

'>>74084405
I took reputable UGL hgh for 8 months.
I was pretty underwhelmed with the results, I put on size but it was essentially like creatine on steroids.
10-15lbs of water weight, hands were numb upon waking up and cardio was negatively effected from the rapid increase in BW. Which really fucked me up since I am an athlete and was taking it with hopes of increasing my athletic performance lol.
I was doing 4iu
2in the AM
2in the PM.
A lot of pinning for not much reward-I truly think it is overrated for the everyday roider and not an aspiring body building pro. If you can afford real pharma GH maybe its a different story but I can't comment on that.
overall I wouldn't recommend just stick to test and compounds.';

'>>74085300
I guess I'm just more curious than anything. I was thinking of 2ui into 4ui if I don't see anything, but water weight bloat... Sounds like a nightmare. What were you competing in?';

'>>74085270
>I looked into the study and IIRC it was done by a vitamin D company which I know is common, but it was super small and didn't look at any mechanisms or have a ton of control so I don't put much into it.
Eh, it's breddy easy for most anyone to criticise any study and replicability is a MASSIVE problem anyway >we've never really come to terms with so..... things are tricky + it's such an out there thing it's hard to know what happens around funding approaches etc. when something like that happens. Basically I'm saying I wouldn't discredit it right away based on what the scientific community made of it, not like anyone attempted to discredit it through more controlled experiments or anything. Was gonna suggest some kind of HGH involvement as well but I've never run HGH and people like this bloke >>74085300 have and will be able to offer up loads more insight than I could.

Var is faked semi-regularly and you might end up with Winny or Dbol (unlikely) instead as they are both significantly cheaper but running Var INSTEAD of Test is a heaps shit idea at the best of times but running while using a Test gel is just nonsense because as Var shuts down your natural Test the two will essentially be fighting against each other but with the gel you'll be absorbing way, way less Test than if you're pinning Test, obviously.';

'>>74085317
Yeah man not worth it in my experience. I compete in Jiu jitsu';

'>>74085398
Ive run pharma hgh for maybe a year and its amazing. Doses from 1iu to 18iu. Best is 2iu for me, zero sides just gives a nice pop and keeps you lean, it takes awhile to kick in but once it does its good and you can take a break and when you start up again you dont have to wait long as in it feels like it just starts working straight away again but could be placebo, I feel like it is actually a wonder drug and dont see myself not using it for atleast year round or cycles etc I love using the fucking pens aswell theyre so cool I wish all my steroids were in pens.';

'>>74085505
>I wish all my steroids were in pens
Jej, was unironically thinking of stabbing myself with my epipen the other day just to see how it feels.';

'>>74085527
The pens are really cool I love them and if I ever make a lab im making my whole range useable with a pen that you just use the slin pen needles screen ons, and the vial fits in the pen with different drugs but youd have to have the mix super thin to pass through the needles or use bigger needles I suppose as im bored and need something to do but whatever';

'>>74085527
Wait youve got epipen? If I had one Id shoot it lol';

'>>74085236
>If I've been smoking a pack of cigarettes per week for 2 years with zero bad effects, no loss in gains, feeling great but have never got screened for cancer - am I severely fucking up?';

'>>74085692
Yeah, they look easy as just never had an excuse to buy em yet.
>>74085704
Yeah, Allergic to bees, was real into hiking up the mountain in my city so formed part of my emergency kit, Vooted against using it the other day as I'm planning to get back into the hiking up the mountain breddy soon hopefully.';

'>>74085728
Terrible analogy, been smoking cigarettes on and off for like 10+ years. Not planning on getting a cancer-screening any time soon.';

'>>74085759
Its basically andrenaline no? In a shot? Holy shit id abuse the fuck out that lmao';

'>>74085836
Yeah, basically. Surprisingly I haven't done a massive deep dive on it but it's essentially a super-fast acting stimulant ramping up your fight-or-flight response to a hundred. I missed my appointment to get free ones from the government and the pen was like $90. If I was getting free ones I likely would've abused/at least tested it by now.';

'>>74085972
Whats the releaver pen to it though? Like with insulin you have glucagon shot if you goe into a coma, whats the drug to counter the possible heart attack problems ? Does it have the dose dial on it as id do lowest dose first just to see how strong it is lmao';

'>>74085994
Don't think it works like that. Like it can cause a heart-attack but it's short acting to counteract going into anaphylactic shock and I suppose is prolly more unlikely. I dunno but apparently it expired in January so now seems as good a time as any to deep dive and find out so I'll let you know more afterwards if you're still around.';

'>>74086052
Even if I dont see it ppst about it because it should be funny';

'>>74085236
My guy about to let his prostate explode and have yogurt as blood.';

'>>74084885
what have you been taking the last couple of years?';

'>>74086226
where do I start lol? So Ive only been back on maybe last 6months coming up to a year maybe not sure but Ive been on deca tren ace and enth, mast,bayer and aspen test,anadrol,anavar,winstrol,primobolan,hgh,letrozloe,tamoxifen,cabergoline,clenbuterol,albuterol,aromasin. Right now im only on 600mg primo 500mg test 500mg mast 700mg anadrol and my bloods are all pretty much fine besides bloodpressure and my one kidney being just at the start problems but its not bad so I'll use up the tren ive got after the primo then just use test and then throw in high primo and mast with a sprinkle of anadrol and hgh and thats my go to cycle now for me for awhile.';

'>>74086226
But before all this did alot of steroids did test deca tren, tren base, methlytren, halotestin, superdrol, injectable winny, oral winny, dbol anadrol etc . But its just genetics, I have bsd kidney ones but for all my other organs are fine never have cholesterol problems from any drug livers only ever been stressed when I ran methlytren, that was the only one maybe superdrol aswell and halo well injectable tren base makes you want to murder within the hour of injecting it lol god I miss that preworkout , but I only do healthly steroids like anavar and primo mast and test nowadays .';

'>>74082376
plan is 6 weeks of 40mg ED, half in AM or preworkout and half in PM';

'>>74086271
>Right now im only on 600mg primo 500mg test 500mg mast 700mg anadrol and my bloods are all pretty much fin
>bloods are fine on over 2 grams of gear
Bro
Who are you trying to convince here c'mon now

I genuinely hope you don't die early
But you're going to have to stop living in a fantasy and start living in reality';

'>>74084977
>Weighing up anavar vs DHT to try and fix my microcock.
if you're past the age of 18, it's too late';

'>>74086960
Its true they were basing the results off creatine levels and the muscle ive gained the higher the levels so on the chart it goes down and "looks" bad but it isnt bad as its due to having more lean mass. Cystatin c test will tell me if im really fucked but even so I still have the kidney function of an old man according to the creatine gfr test but im sure the decent test will come back fine as every single other marker tests fine in my kidney no protein in the urine etc it was retard staff spazzing out making a mountain out of a mole hill.';

'>>74071426
I'm obese at 30+ BMI and have been for a few years, I did two blood tests back in 2019 and 2021 and had 20nmol/L total T back then, and in 2021 I'm about as fat as I am today
Did another test the other week and the fucking total T was 8nmol/L
Is it over? Is this expected from just a few years sitting at that one level or is something else possibly at play?
Also been having more muscle / joint pain, dead shit memory and brain fog, some depressive symptoms';

'>>74086292
Push it to the limit
Whatever it takes, just drink water.
Just keep it simple 1 gram of test and 1 gram of masteron';

'>>74087279
Yeah thats whst im aiming for gram of test added to the 600 primo 500 mast and anavar and anadrol on rotation for like half a year straight maybe a year should be fuckinggl sweet';

'>>74083435
Also GHK-cu';

'>>74083707
Why would CJC w/DAC kill you? Too long of GH or IGF-1 pulse? This causing/accelerating cancer growth?';

'>>74087264
Lose the weight. Get down to 22BMI before starting TRT. Otherwise you’ll just aromatize it all and get real Gyno.';

'I’m thinking aboht buying 6 of these to run on my cut';

'>>74087602
There's not much info on this peptide.
It helps with cutting? Any athletic benefits?';

'Bros I'm 2 weeks into 500mg test and 40mg anavar and my nips are kinda sensitive ONLY if I touch them and it makes me kinda horny

Do I really need to possibly take an AI this early? I thought this would be like at week 4 at the earliest';

'>>74087684
Has a myriad of benefits but helps get rid of visceral fat especially and fat in general';

'>>74087959
You may aromatize easily, it happens- some dudes can run that with no problem; others can't without an AI. Look into an AI or think about swapping the Var for EQ.';

'>>74087529

Not sure the mechanism desu. Someone died in a clinical trial so most people avoid it like the plague. It's no sweat to me anyway. I'm already injecting ipamorelin daily so I just draw them into the same syringe. A lot of places sell it mixed 1/1 too.

Protip: alternate the one you draw from first and push in double the air to avoid fighting the vacuum.';

'>>74087004
I'm obviously over 18, but I'm willing to risk for a 10% benefit as opposed to 100% for an 18 year old. We still have some androgen sensitivity there.';

'>>74084977
>>74088512
DHT is better for EQ and maybe you can get gains from it but you should also do light stretching + clamping alongside';

'>>74088213
Why would he take out the var lol its doing nothing to feed aromatize in anyway.';

'>>74074330
you are very sane and smart';

'So hype to get deca dick';

'>>74083707
>GHRP
same anon here, I didnt quite catch that, does this extend the lifespan? Or just causes higher quality of life?';

'#1 thing you look back on on past cycles and wish you'd done differently?';

'Anyone else here that doesn't see the point of cycling? I don't remember the last time I went a week without test/EQ. I found a dose that doesn't give me any side effects other than accelerated balding that was happening anyway.';

'>>74091213
First cycle at 19 my diet wasn't dialed in. Training sufficiently is very easy. Maintaining a good diet is basically impossible for 99% of people (or at least harder).

Also no AI with dbol frontload was very stupid but this was ages ago when you couldn't easily order this shit on the internet.';

'>>74091010
It increases your GH production, but is much less of an impact then taking exogenous GH. Preserve muscle mass, soften skin etc. But milder.';

'>>74091242
What's your dose and do you run anything else or anti-e?';

'>>74091248
600 each, nothing else including no AI';

'>>74071426';

'>>74091242
Bruh hair should be one of the main things you care about. Hair matters so much more than roid muscle';

'>>74091213
Cycle for longer. A 15 week cycle + PCT is too short, I should have done my lmao500test cycle for 20-25 weeks instead.
Compounds * dosage * duration = gains and the first 3 weeks of a cycle don’t even count anyways';

'can I blast and cruise to natty peak then get off with my testes functioning';

'>>74091213
Blast harder and don't experiment too much
Test, deca, anadrol all worked best for putting size on me and yet I only ran each in sufficient dosages for one cycle
And as far as harder, well 1.5 grams of gear isn't much in the grand scheme of things and you should be running at least that much after your first 500 test cycle imo

>>74091892
>Cycle for longer
Everyone who hasn't don't that thinks that's the answer
But everyone who has done that knows gains slow significantly after 3ish months and basically stop after 4 months
If long cycles worked every pro would do that';

'>>74091909
Yes. HCG halfway through cycle and during PCT.';

'what's a reliable website to buy armodafinil and other supplements in the eu? i always hear about those indian or egyptian suppliers but can never manage to get a link';

'Been gone from here and off the roids for 3 years, what are we taking for blast nowadays? I used to do 600mg test and 50mg adrol or dbol (maybe some deca too) but I haven't kept up with what's good now.

Any new and good stuff? What's your favorite blast stack?';

'>>74071426
Coming off test prop is so easy. Anyone else experience this?';

'>>74093319
The meta hasnt really changed bro. There are some exotic compounds but nobody here really runs them and idk why you would';

'Can anyone recommend me a book on the basics of this shit? I don't even understand basic biology or whatever discipline this is';

'>>74093319
>what are we taking for blast nowadays?
Tren is out, high dose EQ/primo and/or deca/MENT are in';

'>>74093366
Damn, I hoped the zoomers had found some magic pixie dust that I could use. Meta has hardly changed since the 70s, Test, deca, dbol, tren.

>>74093388
Tren is out?? You can't be telling me the truth here. I have wanted to try EQ/primo but that's a bit expensive comparatively. Is it worth it? Just googled MENT, shit is supposed to be 10x as anabolic as test, does it really feel like that?';

'>>74093523
Next blast might be:
Test E 300mg
Mast E 200mg
EQ 150? (What's a good dose?)
MENT ??

How much EQ and MENT is a good amount per week?';

'>>74093542
>How much EQ and MENT is a good amount per week?
0mg
Don't take meme compounds.';

'>>74093542
>EQ
That's a good start but you need something that is going to shock the body jumpstart the anabolic process. Try 16 weeks tribulus terrestris with a creatine monohydrate kickstart. Don't be afraid to throw in some NOxplode to shake things up a little. Add in HCGenerate to keep the family stones jumbling and jiving. Expect 17kg of lean muscle at the end if you did everything right';

'>>74093792
>>74093802
I'm already taking creatine (2x as anabolic as test) plus HCG to prevent my test output from stopping. And baby oil and natural sunlight on my nuts (just enough to get a sun burn, no more). Also taking horny goat weed and some pills my buddy gives me for erections, like viagra but better. EQ is for racehorses and desu that gets me hot like melted butter just thinking of it';

'>>74093381
Anabolics';

'>>74091878
i went bald at 22 tho';

'>>74093319
adding EQ, deca and maybe dbol to my next cycle
doubt i would use tren but its popular now
see primo mentioned a lot as well
nothing super new really
>everyone bigger than me is on tren and 3+grams and gonna die soon
>everyone smaller than me is on TRT and thus a homosexual little pussy ass bitch';

'>>74094653
if you're bald you aren't balding';

'>>74094764
NTA';

'Bros I'm 2 weeks in exactly on my first cycle, did 5th pin today, doing 500mg test a week + 40mg var.
Since yesterday titties have felt pretty sensitive to the touch and they're for sure a lil puffier... but according to the estro chart, my "sides" are all over the place as far indicating high or low. Should I pop 0.5mg of arimidex or should I wait till I get other symptoms of high estro?';

'>>74095027
>2 weeks in
you shouldn't be having high E2 yet. wait another 3 days or so and if the feeling persists pop an AI
gyno takes weeks to form';

'>>74090185
Just seems like a lot if you were to add EQ on top of var for a guy on his first cycle.';

'>>74090185
Plus I just hate var lol, feel like its overhyped and overall just avoid orals entirely.';

'>>74093542
150 EQ is pretty low but you will notice a minor difference in your vascularity and hunger at that dose.
Just be careful managing your E- I crashed mine on my cycle of EQ. I was running 500 test and 300 EQ at the time I think. Crashed towards the end of my cycle, something like week 16 out of 20. Felt awesome up until then.
it was fucking terrible and ended up getting a bad injury because of it. Crashed E makes you super injury prone and takes a while to completely stabilize back to normal.
So tread lightly with EQ.';

'>>74095027
You probably should of just started off with the test. You probably aromatize easily. keep an eye on your tits and get some AI on hand to have in case of emergencies.';

'>>74093319
>I used to do 600mg test and 50mg adrol or dbol (maybe some deca too) but I haven't kept up with what's good now.
That's still a solid blast especially for building mass

>Any new and good stuff? What's your favorite blast stack?
Basically, there's the "lean mass" blasters which is just low test and high mast/primo/EQ
These guys don't make much gains but they look the most aesthetic (albeit bald)

Then there's the trennies
I'm sure you guys had those in your time
Basically just test + high dose tren
Solid size and aesthetics though completely mentally unstable even if they think otherwise (they will often repeat phrases since their short term memory is absolutely fucked)

There's the mass monsters
They'll run something like
600 test, 500 mast, 400 deca
And however much hgh they can afford
They'll be the biggest dudes in the gym but they'll also be the most out-of-breath, sweaty and most red-skinned due to high blood pressure and high hematocrit

Finally, there's the boomers
They'll run something like 250 test, 250 mast/primo so they'll always have a boner and so come to the gym to hit on the teenage girls/boys as opposed to workout
That's on purpose though because they know they aren't making anymore gains and so if they do workout it's just to get some a bit of blood flow to their muscles to help them hit on the girls/boys/other';

'>>74095027
sides usually come at >400 test, so the answer is just to reduce test. why did you choose 500 as your first cycle?';

'>>74095134
I ran 50/50 test and eq for 6 months and my e2 was low normal.';

'have any of you looked into 1-methyl-4-phenyl-1,2,3,6-tetrahydropyridine (MPTP)? Supposedly the strongest fat burner and simultaneous androgen in existence. Guy at the gym told me about it, former Mr. Olympia';

'>>74095223
Everyone says start with 500 test';

'>>74095179
do you even lift? because you sound like a typical 4chan natty spouting bullshit you made up just now.';

'>>74095141
Pretty sure var generally leaves E2 alone even though it's still not bad advice.

>>74095223
This >>74095308 and I'm tryna get BIG nigga. Been browsing /fraud/ and PED leddit for a few years now, it's what everyone recommends for the first cycle';

'Can you good clen online? Anyone have source?';

'>>74095311
>do you even lift?
A bit yeah
Like once or twice a week';

'>>74094742
>adding EQ, deca and maybe dbol to my next cycle
Pretty fucking solid lineup there bro

>>74095134
>So tread lightly with EQ
>>74095238
>I ran 50/50 test and eq for 6 months and my e2 was low normal.
EQ either will or won't effect your e much
It's very individual as opposed to mast/primo which will effect everyone's e
Like you'll hear of people running 300 test, 900 EQ but you'll never hear of anyone running 900 mast/primo with only 300 test (well you will hear of the odd retard)

>>74095307
Heard of it but never looked into it';

'>>74095141
var doesn't aromatize, you nigger';

'>>74095179
>Finally, there's the boomers
>They'll run something like 250 test, 250 mast/primo so they'll always have a boner and so come to the gym to hit on the teenage girls/boys as opposed to workout
>That's on purpose though because they know they aren't making anymore gains and so if they do workout it's just to get some a bit of blood flow to their muscles to help them hit on the girls/boys/other
A future >we can all look forward to, together.
>>74095339
>Pretty sure var generally leaves E2 alone.
Yeah, Anavar doesn't aromatise. Also, the cunt asking you why you did one of the two things all of us scream at people to do, first cycle = 500mg, is a retard and that should be self-evident.';

'>>74095307
Lol, isn’t this something that accidentally gets mixed in with bathtub demerol and causes irreversible parkison’s symptoms?';